Comments on: Fergie: Liverpool Will Feel The Nerves… Unlike Us http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us a Manchester United blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:55:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Jake http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-29524 Jake Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:12:06 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-29524 yeah mate, Blackpool is a proper safe little bubble...the point is that I understand that people need national/tribal identity. But I don't hate anybody because of what they are, Argentinian, German, Liverpool fan etc because that is an irrational standpoint...we all have the same thoughts etc so why not all try and get along...bit of banter yes but put all the history to one side because it's irrelevant as regards human interaction in the present...I said English, not Queen's English and my point about Queen being head of state was a bit sarcastic but I was meaning that it's a symbol of 'we know where we are'...Decency? You can sing Argentina at a football ground and still respect the actions of those that have gone before..There's plenty of veterans who don't harbour any ill-will towards modern Germans etc Like I said, I think everyone should be able to take a joke, whether that be about their race, football team, history or whatever safe in the knowledge it's not malicious or discriminatory..History and time is fluid mate, migration has been a feature for thouands of years and it's nature to fear the slightly unknown immigrants but In 50 years time it won't be a problem as they are assimilated into culture in second and third generations making up the patchwork of Britain as has happened before and will happen again. The quicker you understand that it's beneficial and that in time these people (a lot already are) will be as much a loyal part of British society as for instance 19th century Irish immigrants like my family have become, the quicker you'll realise that it's nothing new and it isn't a problem. yeah mate, Blackpool is a proper safe little bubble…the point is that I understand that people need national/tribal identity. But I don’t hate anybody because of what they are, Argentinian, German, Liverpool fan etc because that is an irrational standpoint…we all have the same thoughts etc so why not all try and get along…bit of banter yes but put all the history to one side because it’s irrelevant as regards human interaction in the present…I said English, not Queen’s English and my point about Queen being head of state was a bit sarcastic but I was meaning that it’s a symbol of ‘we know where we are’…Decency? You can sing Argentina at a football ground and still respect the actions of those that have gone before..There’s plenty of veterans who don’t harbour any ill-will towards modern Germans etc Like I said, I think everyone should be able to take a joke, whether that be about their race, football team, history or whatever safe in the knowledge it’s not malicious or discriminatory..History and time is fluid mate, migration has been a feature for thouands of years and it’s nature to fear the slightly unknown immigrants but In 50 years time it won’t be a problem as they are assimilated into culture in second and third generations making up the patchwork of Britain as has happened before and will happen again. The quicker you understand that it’s beneficial and that in time these people (a lot already are) will be as much a loyal part of British society as for instance 19th century Irish immigrants like my family have become, the quicker you’ll realise that it’s nothing new and it isn’t a problem.

]]> By: Johnny The Fox http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-29497 Johnny The Fox Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:37:51 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-29497 Re JAKE: Never get anywhere?.... Where exactly do you want us to get Jake? I don't hate Argentinians or French or Germans or even United Fans!!! I have STATED ALREADY 3 TIMES that I don't suggest we hate any of these countries but just RESPECT THE FEELINGS OF EX SERVICE MEN AND OUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN OF SUFFERED AND LOST LOVED ONES! This is achieved by not acting like FANATICAL ARGENTINIANS acted when British ships were sunk!!! I seem to be a Daft Hypocrite in your eyes but there is a massive difference between "Political Correctness Gone Mad" and SIMPLE DECENCY TOWARDS ENGLISHMEN, unfortunately I will always put the latter first! If you are oh, so, "we are all the same anglo saxon germanic celtic etc." where do you draw the line, just go all the way back to we are all apes ...eh? Well, if you take that stance why don't you break out of your tribe, your little "We are Mancunians and we stand together philosophy bubble" cos' its the same thing! IT'S F@CKING TRIBAL MATE!!! Now where exactly in this Glorious Country do you live..? Central Manchester - Piccadilly / Deansgate Salford..??? or perhaps Bury, Oldham or even further a field, maybe London..??? Do you live in an area where you are the MAJORITY AND EVERYONE STILL SPEAKS THE QUEENS ENGLISH? I'd lay money that you DO and that you AREN'T in the MINORITY! To quote you Jake: "as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn’t matter" seems to point to the fact that there is a part of you inside that agrees with me, because you are ok with everything as long as ENGLAND STILL FEELS ENGLISH. Well I have some news for you mate we are infested, the seeds have been sown, so being over-run just probably hasn't quite; "REACHED A CINEMA NEAR YOU"! YET. You are probably more of a "Little Englander" than myself you are just very naive in your safe little bubble!!! Johnny The Fox - English Tribe! Re JAKE:

Never get anywhere?…. Where exactly do you want us to get Jake?

I don’t hate Argentinians or French or Germans or even United Fans!!!

I have STATED ALREADY 3 TIMES that I don’t suggest we hate any of these countries but just RESPECT THE FEELINGS OF EX SERVICE MEN AND OUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN OF SUFFERED AND LOST LOVED ONES!

This is achieved by not acting like FANATICAL ARGENTINIANS acted
when British ships were sunk!!!

I seem to be a Daft Hypocrite in your eyes but there is a massive difference between “Political Correctness Gone Mad” and SIMPLE DECENCY TOWARDS ENGLISHMEN, unfortunately I will always put the latter first!

If you are oh, so, “we are all the same anglo saxon germanic celtic etc.” where do you draw the line, just go all the way back to we are all apes …eh?

Well, if you take that stance why don’t you break out of your tribe, your little “We are Mancunians and we stand together philosophy bubble”
cos’ its the same thing!

IT’S F@CKING TRIBAL MATE!!!

Now where exactly in this Glorious Country do you live..?

Central Manchester – Piccadilly / Deansgate
Salford..???
or perhaps Bury, Oldham or even further a field, maybe London..???

Do you live in an area where you are the
MAJORITY AND EVERYONE STILL SPEAKS THE QUEENS ENGLISH?

I’d lay money that you DO and that you AREN’T in the MINORITY!

To quote you Jake:

“as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn’t matter”

seems to point to the fact that there is a part of you inside that agrees with me, because you are ok with everything as long as ENGLAND STILL FEELS ENGLISH.

Well I have some news for you mate we are infested, the seeds have been sown, so being over-run just probably hasn’t quite;
“REACHED A CINEMA NEAR YOU”! YET.

You are probably more of a “Little Englander” than myself you are just very naive in your safe little bubble!!!

Johnny The Fox – English Tribe!

]]> By: Jake http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-29305 Jake Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:01:29 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-29305 oh and two man teams don't win premierships...better luck next time oh and two man teams don’t win premierships…better luck next time

]]> By: Jake http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-29304 Jake Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:00:55 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-29304 why is it still them and us for you Johnny? why haven't you moved on? If people like you were in control we'd never get anywhere mate because we'd still be having a go at the fuckin French for the hundred years war...we are all humans mate, the average Argentinian doesn't hate the English. ever been to Argentina? You talk about PC gone mad you daft hypocrite, by saying we can't sing an Argentinian chant for fear of upsetting Falklands war veterans from 30 yrs ago you adhere to the exact PC brigade drivel you've just railed against...If it's freedom of speech you want (and I agree) then you have to open it all up, not decide what you do and don't want to hear you moron.. What is this England you think of anyway? Is it the Germanic Anglo-Saxons? the Norman Fench? The Irish, the Scots, Welsh? Arsene Wenger recently said he now feels English, he's a British citizen...but is he not Brtitish in your eyes? we pretty much were all foreigners at some point in our family history mate so give it a fuckin break, as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn't matter. why is it still them and us for you Johnny? why haven’t you moved on? If people like you were in control we’d never get anywhere mate because we’d still be having a go at the fuckin French for the hundred years war…we are all humans mate, the average Argentinian doesn’t hate the English. ever been to Argentina? You talk about PC gone mad you daft hypocrite, by saying we can’t sing an Argentinian chant for fear of upsetting Falklands war veterans from 30 yrs ago you adhere to the exact PC brigade drivel you’ve just railed against…If it’s freedom of speech you want (and I agree) then you have to open it all up, not decide what you do and don’t want to hear you moron.. What is this England you think of anyway? Is it the Germanic Anglo-Saxons? the Norman Fench? The Irish, the Scots, Welsh? Arsene Wenger recently said he now feels English, he’s a British citizen…but is he not Brtitish in your eyes? we pretty much were all foreigners at some point in our family history mate so give it a fuckin break, as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn’t matter.

]]> By: Johnny The Fox http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-29219 Johnny The Fox Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:05:14 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-29219 "This Is England" is a fantastic film but unfortunately is set 30 years ago and a lot of that kind of "in yer face", street level attitude has been repressed to behind closed doors. And yes, PC HAS GONE MAD and it desperately needs to be addressed!!! As for WWII...Yes they were fighting for Democratic Values (English Ones) but first and fore-mostly they were fighting to keep England English!!! Ask your Grandparents and they will tell you they would rather IDIOTS LIKE ME decades later went around banging on about Two World Wars than the massive, ignorant, multi-cultural population not giving a f@ck about how they have the fortune of living here! Your Argentina Chants ARE offensive to some ex soldiers... (regardless of who you pathetically think you are aiming them at) do you know anyone who served in the falklands? Have you asked them? (I have). I said earlier I don't suggest that we hate these countries but to just have RESPECT for our fellow countrymen of older generations! Yes, we chant to make our Spanish contingent welcome but we sing our own songs about individuals on the field NOT copy a chant that is used as a national celebration by Argentinian and was used on News Reels whenever they sunk a British Ship! Plus General Franco himself was part of the "Axis of Evil" yes... but I think you will find that Spain and Spanish people were Officially Neutral!!! and DID NOT fight or kill any of our Grandparents!!! By the way... nice Intelligent language to sign off with, I have obviously wound you up! regards, A Fully Paid-Up Member Of The British Legion For The Last 20 Years and Proud Little Englander..!!! JTF. ps regardless of who finishes the season as Champions RAFA was still Right! “This Is England” is a fantastic film but unfortunately is set 30 years ago and a lot of that kind of “in yer face”, street level attitude has been repressed to behind closed doors.

And yes, PC HAS GONE MAD and it desperately needs to be addressed!!!

As for WWII…Yes they were fighting for Democratic Values (English Ones) but first and fore-mostly they were fighting to keep England English!!!

Ask your Grandparents and they will tell you they would rather IDIOTS LIKE ME decades later went around banging on about Two World Wars than the massive, ignorant, multi-cultural population not giving a f@ck about how they have the fortune of living here!

Your Argentina Chants ARE offensive to some ex soldiers… (regardless of who you pathetically think you are aiming them at) do you know anyone who served in the falklands? Have you asked them? (I have).

I said earlier I don’t suggest that we hate these countries but to just have RESPECT for our fellow countrymen of older generations!

Yes, we chant to make our Spanish contingent welcome but we sing our own songs about individuals on the field NOT copy a chant that is used as a national celebration by Argentinian and was used on News Reels whenever they sunk a British Ship!

Plus General Franco himself was part of the “Axis of Evil” yes… but I think you will find that Spain and Spanish people were Officially Neutral!!!
and DID NOT fight or kill any of our Grandparents!!!

By the way… nice Intelligent language to sign off with, I have obviously wound you up!

regards,
A Fully Paid-Up Member Of The British Legion For The Last 20 Years and Proud Little Englander..!!! JTF.

ps regardless of who finishes the season as Champions RAFA was still Right!

]]> By: EastStandManc http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-28401 EastStandManc Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:02:46 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-28401 Johnny: "but compared to other countries", what? Britain is in just as bad a situation as other countries regarding its far-right threat and there are plenty of people still willing to talk about it. FFS, there are still films being released dealing with the issue (funnily enough I watched 'This is England' in Liverpool while I was waiting for my passport in '07). Judging by that comment and the ones that follow it wouldn't surprise me if you were part of the Daily Mail "it's-PC-gone-mad" brigade. As I've said before, I'm proud to be Mancunian and would happily represent England in any other sport. How dare you sit there and question my loyalty. My great-grandparents fought in both major wars, so you can stop with the little guilt-trip right there. What they were fighting for was the preservation of democratic values, not so idiots could go around decades later banging on about "Two World Wars" as if they're the only major achievement in British cultural history. England and national pride is not limited to a WW-centric view, despite what Little Englanders like you would have us believe. As for your Argentina chant comments: you just don't get it, do you? After having written two massive posts explaining why, you still persist with the view that the chant is somehow a direct insult to those who fought in the Falklands. Read the post again, you're exactly the sort of person the chant is aimed at, someone who lives in the past (although, should I really be surprised given your a Liverpool fan?) In any case, we're nearly 30 years on and the two countries are at peace. Why don't you stop all your chants aimed at making your Spanish contingent feel welcome, given that Franco was part of Hitler's axis of evil? *puts down "thesaurus"* Now fuck off you 'dipper twat. There, have I found your level you daft cunt? Johnny: “but compared to other countries”, what? Britain is in just as bad a situation as other countries regarding its far-right threat and there are plenty of people still willing to talk about it. FFS, there are still films being released dealing with the issue (funnily enough I watched ‘This is England’ in Liverpool while I was waiting for my passport in ’07). Judging by that comment and the ones that follow it wouldn’t surprise me if you were part of the Daily Mail “it’s-PC-gone-mad” brigade.

As I’ve said before, I’m proud to be Mancunian and would happily represent England in any other sport. How dare you sit there and question my loyalty. My great-grandparents fought in both major wars, so you can stop with the little guilt-trip right there. What they were fighting for was the preservation of democratic values, not so idiots could go around decades later banging on about “Two World Wars” as if they’re the only major achievement in British cultural history. England and national pride is not limited to a WW-centric view, despite what Little Englanders like you would have us believe.

As for your Argentina chant comments: you just don’t get it, do you? After having written two massive posts explaining why, you still persist with the view that the chant is somehow a direct insult to those who fought in the Falklands. Read the post again, you’re exactly the sort of person the chant is aimed at, someone who lives in the past (although, should I really be surprised given your a Liverpool fan?) In any case, we’re nearly 30 years on and the two countries are at peace.

Why don’t you stop all your chants aimed at making your Spanish contingent feel welcome, given that Franco was part of Hitler’s axis of evil?

*puts down “thesaurus”*

Now fuck off you ‘dipper twat.

There, have I found your level you daft cunt?

]]> By: Stephen http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-28363 Stephen Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:32:31 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-28363 Seems more hypocritical to me, with their Munich chants. Seems more hypocritical to me, with their Munich chants.

]]> By: WestendRed28 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-28350 WestendRed28 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:29:12 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-28350 can I just say Jake's argument makes perfect sense and well said Eaststand as well...why are you Liverpool fans on here arguin with us about our chants? seems a bit narrow-minded can I just say Jake’s argument makes perfect sense and well said Eaststand as well…why are you Liverpool fans on here arguin with us about our chants? seems a bit narrow-minded

]]> By: North Stand,Tier 3,Back Row http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-28348 North Stand,Tier 3,Back Row Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:20:16 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-28348 Brynites and Johnny the fox, ye made yer points, and are still hanging around here. Can you honestly answer me as to why the two are ye are still on this United website? Ye've thrown yer fair share of abuse (granted, ye got some, but what do scousers expect on a United site?), and you've more then worn out your 'welcome'. Ye said yer piece, now its time to go I would of thought? Brynites and Johnny the fox, ye made yer points, and are still hanging around here. Can you honestly answer me as to why the two are ye are still on this United website? Ye’ve thrown yer fair share of abuse (granted, ye got some, but what do scousers expect on a United site?), and you’ve more then worn out your ‘welcome’. Ye said yer piece, now its time to go I would of thought?

]]> By: Jake http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-liverpool-will-feel-the-nerves-unlike-us/#comment-28341 Jake Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:50:45 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=7059#comment-28341 never said I hate Liverpudlians....maybe you should go back and read....I dislike your argument because it's pointless and without any decent analysis or intelligent thought...contradict myself? how have I done that? you don't seem to be able to pinpoint an example....I'm a bit more rational than you mate who seems to take issue with another country's chant being sung...you started all this having a go at us claiming other countries would 'be pissing their pants'? so how am I going round in circles? I'm not on a Liverpool site having a go at Liverpool fans, one of my best mates is a Liverpool fan as well so disproves that speculation doesn't it...give it a break mate, nearly every time you've made some new crazy argument, it's been cut down because your not in full control of any of the facts...Johnny the Fox sums it all up aptly doesn't he.... never said I hate Liverpudlians….maybe you should go back and read….I dislike your argument because it’s pointless and without any decent analysis or intelligent thought…contradict myself? how have I done that? you don’t seem to be able to pinpoint an example….I’m a bit more rational than you mate who seems to take issue with another country’s chant being sung…you started all this having a go at us claiming other countries would ‘be pissing their pants’? so how am I going round in circles? I’m not on a Liverpool site having a go at Liverpool fans, one of my best mates is a Liverpool fan as well so disproves that speculation doesn’t it…give it a break mate, nearly every time you’ve made some new crazy argument, it’s been cut down because your not in full control of any of the facts…Johnny the Fox sums it all up aptly doesn’t he….

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