Reports in Spain this week claimed that a deal between Manchester United and Real Madrid had already been agreed for the summer, regarding Cristiano Ronaldo.
The idea that United would agree to sell their best player to Real Madrid almost a year before the end of the season is pretty ludicrous, particularly given Sir Alex Ferguson’s opinion of Real Madrid.
Following our 5-3 victory today to put us in the World Club Cup final on Sunday, Ferguson has spoken to the media about the supposed agreement.
“Do you think I would get into a contract with that mob?” said Ferguson. “Jesus Christ, no chance. I wouldn’t sell them a virus. That’s a no. There is absolutely no agreement at all between the clubs.”
Questions will certainly be raised over whether United would actually sell Ronaldo to Real Madrid, given their poor conduct over the past two years. Whilst it previously appeared to be a done deal, in that United would be happy enough to accept the millions of pounds thrown at them, and Ronaldo wanted to play in Spain, doubts are certainly beginning circulate.
We have to remember that Real Madrid are currently 6th in their league, some 12 points off leaders Barcelona, after losing 4 of their last 6. Maybe Ronaldo’s ‘dream’ will be less determined if Real aren’t even in the Champions League.
Essentially though, Ferguson has made his opinion of Real Madrid clear on numerous occasion, with our manager obviously despising them. Ronaldo’s contract doesn’t expire until 2012, meaning all the cards are in our hands. If Ronaldo kicks up a fuss about signing for Real Madrid, what’s to say United won’t offer Ronaldo up to the highest bidder in Europe? Causing a stink about a move could make his position at United unattainable (for once!) meaning he would have to accept an offer from Barcelona or AC Milan or somewhere.
I’m resigned to the fact Ronaldo is going to leave us, sooner rather than later, but I’d be much happier if his destination was anywhere other than Real Madrid, which I imagine is a feeling shared by the manager!
Haha, class reply, Fergie at his best
I think that pretty much clears that up.
Calderon is a bare faced liar, he told Nadal that Ronaldo was signing for them last summer personally I think he has mentel problems.
Why would he want to sign for a team which are currently lying in 6th in La Liga being managed by someone who got sacked from Spurs, playing with United rejects like Heinze and RVN?
If he played for the team currently in 6th in the Prem he would be playing for Hull, enough said.
Well said Fergie, madrid are a joke of a club.
Im sick of the circus ronaldo brings to United and his lack of loyalty has made me hate the lad but id rather him go to Barcelona than madrid.
Calderon is a lying knob who has managed to upset man utd fans, real madrid fans, ronaldo, fergie etc. I hope he leaves Madrid swiftly.
Fergie is right. We just need to ignore the rumours. Let Madrid say what they want. After this, how can anyone take them seriously
Brilliant boss! “Jesus Christ, I wouldnt sell them a virus!”
Hahahahaha! i cant stop laughing when i read that comment by fergiefer!
haahhahahaha!
my asshole smells a lot better than calderon!
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1705/real-madrid/2008/12/18/1017751/real-madrid-lock-in-sergio-aguero-for-next-summer-report
scott here’s another rumor!
Only surprise is that it has taken to Thursday after getting tanked by barca for them to start trying to deflect the flak coming their way. Real are trying to focus everyone’s attention on signing Ronaldo and away from what a pack of sh1te they are at the minute. There are two reason why they won the liga for the last two seasons.
1 RVN’s goals
2 A very poor Barca team.
Now thats all changed Ruud’s out for the season at least and Barca a playing half decent now. So they are being showed up for how crap they reallly are. Did anyone see how they all tried to injure Messi in the game, about 5 of them all went down his ankle with their studs. Love to really embrass them in the champions league. God that would be so so so sweet
I’m glad Ferguson has responded rather than brushing in under the carpet as some United fans suggested. All we need now is for Ronaldo to categorically deny he is going and the matter would be ended because as we know, although it is highly unlikely he can buy out his contract if he really wanted to leave. Comments like, ‘it’s not the time to talk about other clubs at the moment’ after winning the ballon d’or say it all and it doesn’t take a genius to see he wants to leave. Having a player at the club who already seems to be contemplating his future somewhere else is a bit disconcerting when you’ve got players likle rooney and tevez who clearly love the club and even Berbatov who has already said it’s everything he’d dreamed of. Can’t remember the last time Ronaldo made a comment like that, his arrogance and petulance are bewildering at times, maybe seeing him playing UEFA cup football for Madrid in a couple of years time would be karma. And I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Calderon that made these new comments but the Real director and as for Heinze being a United reject, he was also Ronaldo’s best mate at United and they still are good mates.
“I wouldn’t sell them a virus” – what a classic put-down.
Besides, Ronaldo ain’t going anywhere. Even though the chatter has died down about his new forty or fifty million quid contract/renewal, I think that in this increasingly-depressed economic environment there will be much, much less money spread around on players’ salaries and transfer fees. Of course, Ronaldo is something of a marketing phenomenon so he might be exempt from these larger economic forces BUT he’s not going to get a better deal than he will get from UTD/Nike.
Why not let him leave for an astronomically high fee, take the money and rebuild the squad around a squad not individual mentality? Rooney showed some real class this morning and I feel like its time to build a team around him, much like we began with Ronaldo five years ago.
On another note I am glad Fergie has come out with such a strong statement because Madrid are doing everything they can to make it appear as if they got the man the failed to get over the summer. If Madrid would shut up, let the season finish out, and come in for Ronaldo over the summer quietly and out of the public eye, Fergie would be much more willing to accept a deal. with that said it is unclear if this was actually said by someone at Madrid, El Mundo is a cesspool and not much should be believed from claims made by the Spanish newspaper. Madrid is self-destructing lets all enjoy watching them burn.
Scot, I dont knw why u have resigned to Ronaldo leaving us sooner rather than later, but I want to believe he will sign a new contract with us very soon. Agreed that he spent the summer shouting his desire to join Madrid, but I think that is in the past now. Remember fergie said we should be expecting them again in January.
I am sure Madrid will soon release a statement denying those quotes from their official.
i hope we get them in the quarters and destroy them.
Ronaldo looks happier now than he has for ages, and I hope that’s because he’s finally realised he’s better off at United and he’s regaining fitness and form, and not because of some secret deal. It was good to see how genuinely pleased he looked when Vidic got the first goal today. I loved Fergie’s ‘virus’ put-down, which sounded pretty confident to me, so I would be relaxed about the whole thing.
I’m happy Fergie comments has cleared off the speculations concerning Real interest in ballon d’or winner. I would rather seeing Cristiano play in relegting club rather than dim-witted Real for nothing.
Cherry, he is not comming out and stating his desire to finnish his career with us.
My attitude is similar to having sex enjoy it while it lasts, because it may finnish sooner than you think.
Scot, have u read his comments today after the match with osaka? What is ur take ? I think he spoke well
Immediately after seeing the Real “leak” to the press, I thought it was a ploy.
(A) Calderon is in hot water with Real in 6th, he is most likely out after this season.
(B) He needs something big to happen to keep his job: sign Ronaldo.
(C) If Real continue to struggle, what player would want to leave the European Champions for a UEFA Cup Real side?
It’s nonsense. I too have resigned to the fact that we will probably lose ronaldo, but the longer he can stay the better, we can sell him in the 2011-2012 season before his contract is up.
You know what’s funny about this leak? The fact that they said there were clauses stopping them from announcing it.
So, by releasing this statement they have in fact, announced it, breaking those clauses and ending any prospect of the “deal” going through.
Stupid fucks. They can’t even lie properly.
real are a hoke of a club, as much as i think ronaldo is a unloyal twat i still wouldnt want him going to madrid.
Classic Fergie moment aswell there well said, he “merked them” as Rio would say
Ooooh Ronaldo’s comment on it suggests he is also fed up with Madrid
Spencer: what has Ronaldo said please mate?
He said Real Madrid are always saying things and he is learning not to care. He says he is very happy at Man Utd, and that anything they or anyone else associated with them say is just speculation and not true. He said he hadn’t heard of the reports until now (time of interview) and that he wants to focus on winning the world cup and not talk about the latest coming from Madrid because its not true
Nice one Spencer. Sounds pretty reassuring. I have seen comments on a site (can’t remember which but probably Mail or some other shit) and it has failed to mention most of what you have just relayed Re: his comments. It just had him down as saying “wants to focus on the world cup and does not want to discuss anything. Good news then I hope.
Tre spot on pal. And SAF has done what he does best….HE BRUSHED IT UNDER THE CARPET LIKE IT THIS RUMOUR CRAP DESERVES.
We utd fans shouldnt really get obsessed by all this. We waste our time and effort and energy discussing at each avenue. If he stays great…if he doesnt great. What the player has done for us in 5 years is incredulous. What he did in the summer stank to the core. Sometimes what he says is great…sometimes it stinks to the core. The brilliance we cannot deny, the petulance and arrogance we hate.
Personally for me…i dont sing viva ronaldo these days…nor wear his shirts. However i do support him and cheer him AS part of our team. Cos as long as he wears that red shirt and that badge and has the backing of sir alex, sir bob and our lads. Then he is OUR player….our man we need to get behind. The best player in our team leading us with weapons fully loaded to achieve our aims and ambitions. No point crying over spilt mil at every juncture. Yes we may not forget and forgive…and it will take many, time to warm to him again ala last year…including me. But i wont have bads words to say…cos whether it be Sir alex, gill, albert the kit man, jennifer the receptionist up at carras, the tarmac sweeper at carras. They all work and represent Man Utd. Hence id support them to my death. Club is bigger and more important than its individual element.
So its NOT fc ronaldo..or forget what he did. Its just facing reality and taking stock. And carrying on supporting our team in these vital times. What will be will be.
In the meantime PLEASE people trust SAF. He’ll only do right by us. And at every opp he has backed Ron to the hill. And he knows best
RE King Eric
in the Fergie article on the BBC Sport site, they have some of the quotes on but not all. a bit selective but some
I think its the yahoo one you read but they also said tevez said he dreams of real madrid and I haven’t seen any quotes about that anywhere else.
“I don’t care. I don’t see newspapers,” he said. “We are out here in Japan and I don’t know nothing, what’s happened around me.
“I am very happy (at Man Utd), very happy.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/
well I wish he would sell them a virus if possible, I’ve never hated that club as much as I do now! it’s like Ronaldo was fated to play for them.
I wonder why Cristiano doesn’t say that to the press by himself it seems like he’s forced to stay at United when SAF denys any contact with Real.m, I mean that if Ronaldo says something like “Nothing happened between the 2 clubs at the moment and its a rumor” it will be harder on the press to make up something, then end of story.
Spencer spot on pal. Yes Ronaldo has said some shitty twisted things in the past. But when he said that people twist my words, when people misquote me, they invent things…eg the 1st 2nd 3rd nest player quote. People criticise if i do good or bad….people think im fake when i celebrate…want to leave if i dont. I cant win….they just want a story to sell papers from me. That ALL CARRIES ALOT OF TRUTH…or the media use and manipulate his status. Dont get me wrong sometimes he has really said some stupid things. But many are untrue. And some people need to understand this too.
We all accept he can act like a dick…but we have to temper that with his genius. Doesnt berba sulk and is lazy…doesnt rooney lose his head and does some crazy things worthy of reds. YES
Yes ron ruined our summer…i’ll never forget that. But you have to also think wasnt he a big part that gave us that summer. Hence i dont love him like i do my all time faves scholsey giggsy etc. But i dont hate him either.
He’s a madeiran lad who supported those twats as a boy. He wasnt born in salford supporting us. It was his dream to play for them…nowt wrong with that. WAY he goes about things is wrong. BUT can you begrudge him…he’s given us 5 amazing years and ofcourse we felt sick by what he did and didnt want him to leave. But if he does accept it people…we ve overcome many a bigger and serious loss..than just a mere player moving.
I just wish SOME fans wouldnt drop thier pants at every opportunity. Ever since the summer they have hissy fits with anything to do with ron. His gel, his boxer shorts etc etc etc etc whatever. Personally like SAF i take it with a big pinch of salt and ignore it. whats the point wastin our time getting anger and flustered at those bastards. They do it on purpose to stir shit. to wind us up.
They are a club in turmoil…..players injured…..players want to leave..election coming up….el classico defeat…..so its perfect for them to use their spurious lie of papers marca and el mundo to print crap. WHY? to take the flak of calderon and pressure from perez at the elcetion. His henchman create stories to deter the attention from thier pile and bag of wank. Yet many of our fans beleive it and take the bait and start slaggin ron.
Yes he isnt wholly innocent..yes yes yes..he’s an arrogant tool. But i just wish some of our fans were like SAF….who in turns takes the piss out of them….makes even dangerous remarks.
” franco regime etc”
” Calderon blows hot air”
” virus”
” that mob”
” we knew they come come jan..’laugh”
” theyre a joke”
” i’ll give them something if they want it”
etc etc etc etc etc etc
Water of a ducks back….
Fuck Real Madrid…..BUNCH OF FUCKING TOSSERS
cherry..spencer…giles oakley …spot on guys….spot on.
Whenever these comments come from the real media shithouse…i just wish all our fans would just laugh and tell those bastards to suck this…yes you know what i mean.
the directors at real shuld get jobs wrting scripts on soap operas…blimey theyd be oscar winners if they ever went to hollywood.
TWATS…we’ll see what the draw brings tmrw…
“We utd fans shouldnt really get obsessed by all this”.
I agree, but you might’ve scored an own goal three essays later mate
I’m not in a tizz, I’m not riled (and neither was SAF as the Beeb was trying to convince us) and I’m not ranting at Ronaldo.
My only point on this specific “leak” still stands; the daft cunts can’t even lie properly.
RE FRED
In Ronaldo’s defence, since the season started, he has only said the right things with regards to staying. He has said I am happy here, want to stay blah blah about ten times. And unlike last season he hasn’t mentioned anything about dreams of Real. Whether you believe him or not is another matter but one things for sure, the more he keeps on saying positive things, the more people realise that unlike last summer, its solely the press and Madrid’s fault for keeping this story going.
Eaststandmanc…thanks for your astute observation..well done. Fact is pal for the first time on this ron issue i was making a point and yes a very detailed ESSAY type points too… WHY? Because many of our fans time and time and time again have a hissy fit when these rumours surface and boy they surface every week. And every time whether it be another thread or nowt to do with the ron..they waste all their energy and time commenting on real and their spurious crap. ALL my ESSAYS conclusion was…was this I WISH WE DIDNT TAKE THE BAIT, DIDNT GET RILED AND NOT GIVE ANY VALUE OR CREDENCE TO THOSE BASTARDS. That was my point…that ala SAF i laugh at those marca quotes and comments….they make me fuckin laugh at that fuckin piss take of a club.
AND THE PARADOX AND CONTRADICTION WAS DELIBERATE EATSTAND MANC..lol
Deliberate in that look at the time we waste talking about garbage that comes out of those twats. hence my point was made and validated.
Take care..probably until the next thread and some more marca oe el mundo rumours…whatever next..ronaldo’s hair found in spain? Guys name beginning with the letter R seen near el bernabeu? ronaldo seen with WHITE boxers???
Suspense is killing me
laugh a minute
Suhayl ive had many a rants on here about how i dont like ronaldo and so have many others, but i wouldnt say any of us have “hissy fits” or an “obsession” we simply want him out of our club.
for the following reasons:
1. Whoring himself in the summer
2. bad attitude
3. he’s a self obsessed pre maddona
and finally because of the circus that follows him
people seem to think we dont like him because of the media story’s but that isnt the case he thinks he’s bigger than the club so that alone is enough for me to want him out.
most United fans hate the media anyway and dont listen to a word they say because there all ABU’s and were used to all these shit storys coming out of the newspapers etc.
as ive said many times before Manchester United FC not ronaldo FC
red manc
Its not Ronaldo FC But for now, Ronaldo is part of Manchester United and I will support him until he leaves.
Yes, he has made some bad mistakes but who hasn’t. Nobody is perfect
Actually Fergie, if you’ve got SARS, id’ be happy if you sold it to Calderon
Anyway on Ronaldo, this is all his fault anyway, i’m ok with him dreaming of wherever he wants to dream of, but why did he have to tell the press about it? He already knew Madrid were after him, didn’t he think that saying stuff like I dream of Madrid would only give Calderon and his butt-boys more power? Never really liked him, but I don’t think I’ll slate him or put him down as long as he’s a United player.
here we go again. pathetic media. creating lame news to earn money
Spencer i can see your point mate but lets say it was Anderson that had done all the things he did over the summer would everyone still want him to stay or is it only his ability that makes you all want him to stay?
you cant question his talent but he’s to much of a circus act for me and the sooner he leaves and we get a replacement (in a dream world a straight swap for messi) the better.
I don’t like him but i don’t boo him, i just refuse to sing ‘viva ronaldo’ and that seems to be the way our supporters that don’t like ronaldo have gone about showing our dislike for him which has been best for the team.
when he does leave i wont boo him if he was ever to play against United i just want him gone. the fact he’s mates with heinze (judus scum) shows what type of person he is.
RE Red Manc. Some quotes came from Anderson recently about him wanting to play for Inter and refusing to say if he would extend his contract. Loads of supporters defending him, some even refusing to believe the quotes.
And no you can’t say just because he is mates with Heinze, they are the same. Tevez is mates with Heinze. They allegedly always share a room when on Argentina duty. But I don’t see Tevez or Ronaldo demanding for moves to Liverpool.
The whole Anderson thing is another media story, which i dont believe. I dont believe the things said about ronaldo in the media either.
and your right you dont see Tevez demanding a move anywhere but ronaldo demanded a move to real madrid, and im not going off newspapers or supposed “close sources” , from his own mouth we all saw him say “i want to be allowed to follow my dream” etc etc.
We’re obviously never going to agree and this could go on all night so theres no point.
…use the forum guys.
Bored of Reading about this.
Chamions of England, Champions of Europe (and hopefully), Champions of the world! Real who?
The media continues to put what ever they want in there pages and on their sites, unless I see video I do not believe whats written. I hope those quotes are inaccurate because Anderson is hugely talented player in my opinion. Ronaldo is an amazing player and hands down the most versatile play maker and finisher we have seen at United since Cantona. If he wants to stay at United and is playing well then that’s all that matters to me. Will I forgive the summer and think he will stay at United past this coming summer? No and no, he ruined a summer that should have been dominated with celebrations and instead became a nail chewing news cycle that made each of us grasp for breath as the page loaded. He also continues to indicate a move this summer is possible by giving no long term committment. He is saying I am at happy at United, and I want to stay this season, nowhere is there a long term guarantee. A big money move for Ronaldo will be the first step by either Calderon or a “new guy” if Madrid lose patience, and I hope we accept. If he does not want to play at United then he should move on, and we should focus our team around Rooney, who has been spectacular this season, and reshape the team. With all that said he is our player for at least until the end of May and Madrid begin their charge, and we should back him as we would the entire team. We need his talent to take advantage of the multiple chances of championships we have this season and to step back up now that we are back in the league. So regardless of a deal, which there is none, it wouldn’t have changed my opinion of him at all.
If i was Ronaldo, i would thank god i did not go to Spain’s Man Shitty.:-P
i just want him to improve his attiude markedly or leave because it isn’t right for a club like United to have to keep answering all these rumours and dealing with another Ronaldo incident after every game. It’s been a bit silly over the last month whether he’s walking off, kicking out or handballing and lying that he thought he heard a whistle instead of the truth in which he forgot he’s another player on a football pitch and that he has no god-given right to be there more than anyone else. I’m glad Howard Webb sent him off (at the time i wasn’t), it was like a wake up call that your just another player mate and you should be abiding by the same rules. Let’s hope he comes back from Japan and starts working for the team again like the good old days when he wasn’t European football of the Year and a complete twat.
Suhaylll…you hit the nail on the head as usual..perfectly put. I do find it a tad nauseating how some of our fams on here do throw fits each time this circus rears its ugly head…each time at the expense of our team and other threads. Spot on with your analysis mate as usual
That boy can do what he likes. And its our fans also that make it and add to the fire..hence make it Ron FC and not Man utd fc. I wish our fans could just ignore it…stick a finger up…and not talk about it or anything to do with the circus ever again. What will be will be….
jake…i do agree with your last statement