Ahead of Wednesday night’s League Cup game against Crystal Palace, Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that we will be playing a young side like usual.
Palace are currently 10th in the Championship and managed to beat Southampton, who are top of the table, in the competition last month.
Ferguson is putting his faith in youth though and singles out Paul Pogba as a player who might start. Pogba has played for 45 minutes against Leeds and 30 minutes against Aldershot so far this season. The manager doesn’t name Ravel Morrison as a potential starter, although you’d like to think he would get some time on the park on Wednesday.
“There will be complete changes,” said Ferguson. “Chris Smalling has come back and I may be able to play him. He’s still young and it’ll be a young squad against Palace. The only area where I’ve got problems is centre midfield. It’s possible I could play Pogba in there but we’ll wait and see. I’ve got enough players to choose from, that’s for sure.”
The League Cup win in 2006 has been seen by some as the catalyst for the success that has followed, after the press had written United off as in decline the year before. The trophy has also been a great way for us to bring young players in to the team, which Ferguson believes makes it an important tournament.
“I think the League Cup has turned into quite a good tournament,” he added. “Clubs like United are able to introduce young players and ones who have not been playing regularly in the first team, and it’s been good to us over the years. We’ve won two finals at Wembley with young players, which is good going, and I think it’s become an important tournament for us in terms of getting the youngsters an introduction into winning and having an understanding of the progress they’re making.”





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Fastfoward to the Future
Ryan(Giggs)(the new Gerrard) Tunnicliffe, Paul(Scholes)(the new Vierra) Pogba, Ravel(The Shackled,let-me-off-the-leash Marvel)(the new Rooney, a refined Roy Keane) Morrison, Cleverley(eyes all over his head, That Stupendous, annoying bird you just cant catch-who needs Iniesta or Sneijder) Tom, Ezekiel(The wing Fryer) Fryers, and the Cap’n of course- Phil Jones(who looks like a toy soldier, Optimus Prime,a superman of sorts,prompts a new comparison to a legend every week, the new Oshea), Chris Smalling (Everyone hates Chris and how he heads em’ in, Iron Man, the new Vidic), Welbeck(the guy whose name south american commentators just cant get to grips with, Flash) Danny, and of course Javier(Baby-face,the streak in the box that brought the sombrero back to Old trafford, Sonic) Hernandez aka Chicharito Mexican Sandwich
Inb4 Pogba comes on for a couple of minutes during injury time
And first
Seriously though, those kids are going to take over the world
Amos
Rafeal Evans Smalling Fabio
Valencia Park Pogba Diouf
Macheda Berbatov
What’s this with the contract situation with Pogba though?
Cheers for using the word “could” start Scott. Every other article seems to think it’s a formality (Manchester Evening News too). With all the drama you here about his current contract, I hope the kid does not pay too much attention to the bullshit media or he may be in for a disappointment.
Anyway hope all the kids get a chance, they deserve it after last season’s effort’s for the reserve’s.
UNITED! UNITED!
*hear*
With the issue about Pogba’s contract running out soon, I think he MUST start the match and should he impress the boss, then give him what he wants and make him first team material
Right, would someone please clarify- I thought Fergie said Pogba was signed up until 2013- then we read he’s free to talk to other clubs in January- what is the truth?
I think he’ll stay anyway but resolution on this matter appreciated.
Nah, fergie always says this…fully expect a damn frustrating side with the likes of gibson, berba, diouf( basically players we know and don’t really want to see) start the game with the real talents seeing very little action ie morrison and pogba
so there’s a club who interested in pogba although he’s done little so far….
come on paul ‘Progba’, show United fans what you got…
Funny that, personally I ALWAYS want to see any 11 out there wearing the shirt, whilst United have frustrated me countless times over the years during matches mainly because of my passion, yet I never once looked at a line up and said ‘oh this is going to be frustrating’
Capiche?
Furthermore I never tire of watching Berba……
read that shitty and arsenil are looking to sign him if he refuses to commit with the red devils
Redc Blizzard – Spot on pal. Imagine a midfield of Tunni, Tom, Pogba and Morrison. Wow.
What’s that clown on about in the 1st comment!?
Media trying to upset united as usual saying city and arsenal are sniffing about pogba don’t believe everything you read, the same goes for how much hype the lad gets a world beater this that and the other well just have to wait and see if he gets enough games in the league how good he is
Fuck pogba he is gona fuck off for more money because of some parasite agent he shouldn’t wear the shirt. Fuck him
Don’t see anything to get excited about re Pogba or Morrison they have not pulled up any trees and are quite some way of playing against adults I’d be surprised but they may prove me wrong tomorrow.
Real Madrid are(according to the Daily Star) ready to bid 70 million pounds for Wayne Rooney
@Longlivetheking, i was just trying to fit in everything about the youngsters, my apologies if its a bit too cluttered
Also, Peterborough United manager Darren Ferguson has said his dad Sir Alex Ferguson, is interested in signing his defensive starlet Ryan Bennett.
Posh chairman Darragh MacAnthony also suggested on Twitter that United were in the hunt.
“Had an interesting chat with gaffer. Seems his ‘pops’ could be in the mix with other clubs for a certain player,” he Tweeted.
“But Posh has never been a selling club under me unless it’s what’s needed so relax all!”
I hope he starts. Carrick and Fletch will carry the load for the next month, so there’s no point in risking them tonight.
Cedars – EXACTLY mate. I love to watch any United player out there. How the fuck can some say “We don’t want to see them”? Especially Berbatov. I love watching that bloke. There are some fucking jcl’s on here. Saying shit like “its painful watching United”. In my opinion its always a pleasure.
Off topic but I like others was a bit concerned, assuming we go through, that we will meet Barca or Bayern. Well fuck em. Barca aren’t the team they were at present and Munich have lost two or three on spin. Anyway the last 16 are played in Feb/March time so any teams form including our own will be very different from now.
Longlivethe king – Its pretty obvious what the first post means. Well I understood it anyway.
parryheid – Morrison is top class as proven against MEN at Aldershot. You’ll see.
keano99 – Bit harsh pal. I was thinking similar to that BUT we don’t know the truth. The kid will stay.
hehe its getting bold in here
Very bold of you.
King Eric.
I watched that game and none of the two impressed and I don’t expect any different tomorrow I think they are a long long way of a first team starting place however I have no intention of debating it.
It’s a blog, though? Lol.
King Eric
I hear you mate
Real Madrid want to pay 70mill for Rooney i’d sell him
wayne
I would sell my kidneys for 7 pounds, been giving me so much problems! hahahaha
wayne is that you? your comments seem heavily accented with pessimism today
Maybe he bumped into the Moses aka swede?
wouldnt sell Rooney though
Wayne a pessimist? Na, just funny as fuck and like me he has a love affair with Berba….. Mind you my new found crush is of course the one and only………..
….Van Persie
…..Jellybean!
Good shout fellas, its actually our one and only soren! hahahaha
RedBlizzard
New poster or is it someone we know using a new nick? If you are new welcome aboard buddy
RedBlizzard hi mate not a pessimist,i have no loyalty or emotional attachment to Rooney i think 70mill would be good business,that would net Utd RVP and a top quality CM i’d do the deal
Rooney isn’t the most consistent player in the world,every year he seems to go through lulls in form and 70mill seems to much for him
wayne
You would want RVP at United? God I think I love you even more now you red freak! lol
no wait, Bebe?
I think we’re past Rooney going anywhere. RVP is in top form, but is still injury prone. Rooney all day long for me. that being said, If United were to sign RVP, I would be happy. Been an admirer from afar, of RVP. Long before Cedars lol.
Thanks Cedars :p
RedBlizzard
Hahahaha, if you are new here than you seem fit right in! If not do tell mon amour
Redhound? Very similar?
@Cedars lol well unless Gunners are perpared to break their wage structure he’ll be available and 70mill would bring 2 quality players.
Willie
Do piss off, no one has admired RVP more than me….. You cheat! hahaha
You’re jumping on the bandwagon lol. Check old threads, you’ll see.
RVP at United? Drooling all over my self, might be the medications but I am sure its the man crush thingy
Check old threads? You know very well I am too daft to do that….. RVP glory hunting United loving NI friend
Passing fad pal lol. You’ll get over him! I think he’ll stay at Arsenal. He should. Look at Nasri? Not exactly working out, the way he thought.
Willie
I suppose I will eventually you are right….. In all seriousness he is injury prone but we cannot argue the fact that he is having the form of his life, not sure how he would fit in at United to be honest….
Still though, that 5th goal celebration at the Bridge ranks as one of the best I have ever seen, the finish was not half bad either
Cedars – His form hasn’t surprised me. always been a top player. The problem he’s had, is injuries disrupting his game. As for him fitting in, I think Fergie would find a place for him. Even though he’s been banging the goals in this season, I feel he’s a more natural number 10. Good thing about RVP, he can play, and excel in different positions. Quality player. Fuck it Fergie! sign him! Lol.
RVP is injury prone dynamite
Willie
Fair enough, don’t need me to say it as well…… Fergie sign him up!
Drooling again! hahahaha
RVP is injury prone dynamite?
Damn I think I like this new poster!
Get a bib mate lol.
Wearing one as we speak pal! hahaha these medications just make me spit as I speak hahahahaha
Now, is he new or someone we know? Hmmmm
parry – Well isnt that what a blog is all about? Debating. When Morrison came on last round he looked quality. Do you even watch the reserves or academy? Well I do and this kid has been head and shoulders above any player the last few years. You were the one saying De Gea was shite, look how that turned out. The kid has improved with every game. You come across a real bitter miserable old cunt pal.
Redhound, I thought? The posts in bold had me curious.
Another thing , why on earth do you suppose Fergie has persevered for so long with Ravel despite his off -field antics, despite them being blown out of proportion? Because he is a fucking top class young player with magic in his boots.
King Eric, Morrison(after Fryers of course) is actually in my opinion the most ready for the first team or its bench.
@Cedarsdevil…well that’s where we differ, I’d rather see people who have been known to have promise, Pogba and Morrison than players we both know will never make it at United, Gibson, diouf and arguably Berba as shown by our managers continual benching of him, If they aren’t given a chance in the carling cup when will they play…20 minutes of the bench isn’t good enough all the time, throw them in the deep end, sink or swim, its carling cup for Gods sake
Go and fuck yourself pal and were 1Third into the season you berk I’ll give my view at seasons end.Now you might understand why I wont debate with tit’s like you.
WillieRedNjut @ 15:15: “I think we’re past Rooney going anywhere. RVP is in top form, but is still injury prone. Rooney all day long for me. that being said, If United were to sign RVP, I would be happy.”
Don’t forget that RVP is now 28 and enjoying the best run of games in his career. What are the odds that it won’t continue and he’ll hobble off injured – pretty high, I’d guess.
Besides, for what RVP can now command, UTD could sign ThreeDeRossis !
Parry, they might not be ready for a starting place, but neither are diouf and gibson…and they start these type of games and probably will tomorrow
Johny Stavros.
I’m not suggesting they wont start or shouldn’t but their readiness for first team places and knew when I made my response to the original post that shite would be returning hence my won’t debate remark as it would not be your wrong because !!! as this guy doesn’t do reasons why your wrong.
parryheid
Who exactly were you addressing? Not King Eric I hope?
Do tell
I just want to say that I respect the League Cup a lot
They were dark days those days but that trophy did something to us
And it will never be forgotten.
Of course we do need a formula to win the FA Cup and beat Barca to a CL but we haven’t done too bad have we?
MG
More like the FA Cup in them dark days my Red Devil United loving friend ……
Prof Cedars
parry – You are one rude cunt pal. Still never apologised for your lies over the summer. Now fuck off.
parry – How ignorant are you? Seriously? I never said you were “wrong”. I gave my reasons as to why I think Morrison is top drawer. As I asked do you even watch the stiffs or academy? Its fuck all to do with being right or wrong , its opinions and I gave mine as to why I think Ravel is the real deal. Better than Craig Gordon anyway.
Cedars – Of course it’s addressed to me mate. He still hasnt got over the fact I outed him in the summer, or rather smartalex did about his lies of him NEVER saying he wanted Gordon at United. I can take his abuse, I have broad shoulders mate.
King Eric
Do ignore him pal, he must be one when of them ‘depressed’ sad fucks
Wait for it, now we will be called bullies!
And the sheep are starting to bleat,getting restless in the pen are we ? This has got nothing to do with youse so keep out of it and why don’t you follow your own advice and ignore me you oaf there’s no pats on the head going here so instead of conversing between yourselves try reading the post.It would be handy if the recently bandwaggon jumper was to go back a few posts on the same page which he wont do it may just take away his self pitying excuses you know the page,the same one you and your Irish sheep used to bracket me on.
parryheid
Best 2 words for you in the English language as mentioned by my idol Billy Connolly
Fuck off
Craig Gordon over de Gea? ROFL!!!
Bullies.? Try liberty takers you twat aint got it in you to bully my like, get fucked you nosy interfering cunt.
parryheid
Can we not just kiss and make up? You sick demented fool
Look you clown you cant keep your interfering nose out of things that don’t concern you I personally want fuck all to do with you smug fuck.
parryheid
Your last post made no sense whatsoever you ignorant fool….. Such a tool
Just shows how inward looking you really are,and to top it of you actually think you are clever tut tut.A very selective self appointed referee eh.
parryheid
Kisses my love…… You have no idea who are dealing with honey
Sick demented sad bastard
Don’t I ? I know exactly who I am dealing with.A fool who doesn’t have the nous to ask himself why he has decided to take up someone else’s dispute with me and therefore the nous to say to himself I’m getting the fuck out of this.
Its called sticking out for those you respect you idiot…… Glad to know you have decided to piss off, this place would be much better off
To finish off you are not worthy of even licking King Eric’s shit stained boots
Show’s just how stupid you are.Don’t you even understand the post I just made ? Where do you get the impression I’m going anywhere oaf.It’s called interfering and like I said before Selective interfering on behalf of one you consider a sheep hence the interference.Your being laughed at you clot and seem totally unaware of it.Plus I don’t give two rows of sheep shite whether you respect me and types like me it would be unsolicited..To clear it up for you I’m getting the fuck out of this is a reference to you.
While were at it and your remark you don’t know who your dealing with ? Who or What do you think you are if you listen carefully that drumming noise is me running, yeah right.but my leg will be knacked until at least next summer so no drumming noise.Anyway can’t stop here any longer tonight but will be here in the morrow to take this as far as you wish to go with it.GIRUY
Well, I think that XYZ player is fucking useless. He’ll never make the grade.
And I’m warning you, if anyone decides to discuss this posted opinion, no one had better join the conversation. It will just be the two of us considering the view. KEEP OUT!!!
… hello, … anyone want to talk to me? … hello, … don’t ostracise me!
I also want to chat! BUT, only to one of you, so don”t crowd me! … or ignore me!
… please ..!
The lad to watch is Will Keane by a distance. Footballing brain is ‘Teddy Like’. Think he’ll be the one to watch in the coming years.
Think we still have problems in the middle of the park though. All good squad players but don’t have any automatic picks in there like recent times. I’d take a punt on Schweinsteiger from Munich to add so much needed steel, as well as a cheeky bid for De Rossi from Roma. Probability of this happening is minimal though.
Whoever wears the shirt I support
UTID
King Eric, in case you missed this quote from monday:
Peterborough’s director of football Barry Fry has praised Ryan Tunnicliffe and reiterated the Championship club’s desire to extend the United midfielder’s loan spell at London Road. “One day, I can definitely see him getting into the first team at United, but remember that he is still only 18 at the minute and he’s still learning the game,” Fry told skysports.com. “When he does come on from the bench, he always makes an impact and helps change the game for sure. I think that he has got one hell of a future in front of him because he is very strong, aggressive in winning the ball and goes from box-to-box all game and there aren’t many of those around in the game at the moment. Hopefully Darren can persuade the boy and Manchester United to keep him here till the end of the season and, if that is the case, it will be a great signing for us. When we took him, Sir Alex did say that he only wanted him out until January, so we will have to just cross our fingers and hope he changes his mind on that one.”
An 18 year old who by all accounts is bossing the midfield in a tough league like the Championship. The world is his oyster.
Cedars. Cheers mate. Fuck him.
Smartalex. Thanks mate but saw that. Rohan posted it. Great to hear. Cheers anyway.
King Eric
Pleasure, we all look out for each other here my friend….. He such a sad and negative person, I bet he does not even know how to smile…
smartalex @ 23:09
Hilarious stuff
parryheid
In your post @ 19:52 you make reference to ‘me and my Irish sheep’
Would that be directed at a certain poster here that I get along with and who’s initials are WRD?
Do tell
Sussed and flushed
Ah and everybody else’s bandwagon jumper appears,no show without punch eh.
Hoping to recruit more handers to your cause are you ? Your credibility is going down the plughole so I suggest you read the posts I originally made at 12 02 the one line response at 13 12 my reply 13 49 the predictable response at 15 58. And the most telling one of all Your post at22 29 shows you most clearly of them all to be a person who is not a fair minded or even handed but a person with an agenda sad sad fool.
parryheid
From now on I will no longer read your garbage filled posts but merely address you with two words, i.e. fuck off…. So whenever you read just those two words in my post know very well that I mean you
Recruit more handers? You sad fuck
Fuck off
Just to finish, I know King Eric called you a cunt first to get the ball rolling, but he was merely stating a fact….. Now fuck off
Suggested you took your own advice much earlier and ignore me you devious cunt but you couldn’t keep your interfering nose out of it.As a result you have exposed yourself badly.
Fuck off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-FzOxc14d8
Oh devious cunt pretending to be a fair minded even handed man.You wound me ha ha Why don’t you go get yourself some pride,silly man
Sadness and misery is all around us, I pity those that are miserable however I have no place in my heart for those who simply choose to be sad and demented
A lack of pride and an inflated sense of worth is a terrible thing,decency and right is a worthy thing to pursue.
damn, this thread still running? Noticed Cedars comments in the current topic and i thought surely not
ah i see, nowt to do with Pogba. Regular cock fight it seems.leave you guys to it
Parry is winning this debate. Can Cedars retort? Stay here, to find out!
Willie
Hahahahahaha, you stirrer of pots…. Thought that was my area of expertise!
Not to disappoint, he can fuck off!
I love you Cedars. you know that lol. Parry is Parry.
Tell you what devious cunt,not a fair minded or even handed man read the posts I put up at 11 58 and I mean read them then come on here and give your views,genuine views not agenda ones.because there are people who use this site who will have read them and came to the conclusion this guy may have a point without sticking their noses in and interfering.You chose to run with somebody else’s ball because of your admitted agenda I know for a fact you won’t cause you dare not.Youv’e destroyed your credibility I aint in any race to win any race and you who wants to give it the big I am you have no expertise.I do I’m a spark what’s your expertise apart from jester/fool.
Ya whatever, just fuck off
Just reconfirmed it devious cunt.GIRUY
Easy Rom, haven’t read all comments, saw RedNut say Parry was 4 nil up on this page Lol.
Top first post for once! It’s not an exaggeration to say we’ve got the best batch of young talent in the league. Hopefully the cup run lasts a bit longer this season so they all get more games.
Parryheid – I’d agree Morrison hasn’t pulled any trees up per say. He’s put in some top performances by all accounts but not at a significant stage *yet*. But you can’t say the same for Pogba mate, not objectively anyway. His international experience as national captain is considerable. He *has* consistently pulled up trees for his age, as far as big games and tournaments go. He just hasn’t done it in a United shirt, *yet*. Hopefully they both start.
King Eric – yeah mate, a midfield of Tunnicliffe, Cleverley, Pogba and Morrison would go down a treat tonight. Doubt the manager would start them, but then again wouldn’t be surprised if he did just that!
SmartAlex – read your post from the old thread, cheers pal, and likewise.
Lol, just glanced over the beef and there I was thinking Pogba was being debated
You lot are nuts :lol
got the fucking smileys giving it large now
Paul Parker.
Never any dispute about the talent/ability my problem the readiness for first team places in the here and now.
Parryheid
Well… based on last nights performance we’d have to say the lads need a lot more senior games (no surprises there then). But, considering our teenage players are new to the first team (unlike Zaha), I’d have to say Morrison, Fryer and Pogba did impress. It certainly wasn’t their fault Palace scored a screamer, and the offside wasn’t down to them either. They certainly aren’t ready for EPL just yet, but with more games they’ll make a mark on the League. Shame their Cup run is over so soon really, now they’ll have sod all chances to play.
Paul Parker.
That’s my point they and a few others Are our future with the emphasis on Future and not the here and now I’m not saying miles away but a considerable bit imo anyway.
The Sir Alex interview entitled ‘Boss: Timing key for debuts’ adds some light to this discussion:
“The monitoring system here is good and there’s a lot of consistency with our Academy staff,” says Sir Alex in the new edition of Inside United. “These are guys that have been here a long time and know what to look for. When somebody like Paul McGuinness comes to me and says: ‘He’s a first-team player’, then I know to keep a special eye on the player.
“From there, we’ll bring the boy into first-team training for a couple of sessions. That’s what we’re doing at the moment with Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Jesse Lingard, Zeki Fryers, Larnell Cole and Michael Keane. They’re all training with the first team.
“That allows me to see how they cope playing against seasoned professionals, it lets me judge their temperament. It allows me to get a far better picture of how they’re progressing. And, while this is going on, you hope they’re playing well for the Reserves and displaying the right attitude and enthusiasm.
“Players are never simply thrown into first-team action,” he asserted. “They always follow this step-by-step process.
“I don’t think we’ve ever been off the mark and given a boy his chance too early. That can be very damaging. If he’s not up to the standards we require at United, then we don’t venture there. The last thing we’d want is to humiliate a player. I’m not saying every player I’ve ever given a debut to has gone on to be a fantastic player at this club, but most of them have at least forged successful careers.”
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Nov/sir-alex-ferguson-explains-when-to-hand-out-debuts.aspx