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	<title>Comments on: Fergie: Premiership Clubs Want Cleverley</title>
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		<title>By: RxDevil</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fergie-premiership-clubs-want-cleverley/#comment-82883</link>
		<dc:creator>RxDevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another perspective of Ronnie being gone that we could look at:

Without a player essentially guaranteed a start on the wing, this could give our prospects / suspects a better chance to prove themselves than what was on offer last season.  The trouble is, the only way these kids can prove anything is if this they are given a chance in the bigger matches.  Look at Macheda:  the kid comes on in two critical matches and shines; within 10 matches he&#039;s become 1 of the 4 first team strikers.  Compare this with Welbeck, who had statistically similar performances, but in less crucial games.  The only way they can prove they&#039;re able to cope with the big stage is if they play...on the big stage.

What makes this situation more complex is that we&#039;re dealing with the wing.  Last season nani and tosic barely got a peek at the 1st team because the only position available was opposite Ronnie.  With every match these days being crucial (unlike when it was just us and le Arse challenging) that position was given to Park or Giggsy, most likely because Fergie wanted the security of having experience there while Ronnie did his thing on the other side.

My question is this: now that Ronaldo&#039;s gone, can we basically put a rotation policy in place on the wings to give the potentials a chance even if it means a gamble on losing points in big matches?  I&#039;m hoping yes, especially after seeing Cleverley on wednesday (one word came to mind -- &quot;class&quot;).  With talents like him, Tosic, and now Obertan at our disposal I&#039;d love to see them get some first team action...especially when it puts them to the ultimate test of whether they are fit to wear the shirt.

btw, this is only my second post, so feel free to let me know if it was too long, in the wrong place or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another perspective of Ronnie being gone that we could look at:</p>
<p>Without a player essentially guaranteed a start on the wing, this could give our prospects / suspects a better chance to prove themselves than what was on offer last season.  The trouble is, the only way these kids can prove anything is if this they are given a chance in the bigger matches.  Look at Macheda:  the kid comes on in two critical matches and shines; within 10 matches he&#8217;s become 1 of the 4 first team strikers.  Compare this with Welbeck, who had statistically similar performances, but in less crucial games.  The only way they can prove they&#8217;re able to cope with the big stage is if they play&#8230;on the big stage.</p>
<p>What makes this situation more complex is that we&#8217;re dealing with the wing.  Last season nani and tosic barely got a peek at the 1st team because the only position available was opposite Ronnie.  With every match these days being crucial (unlike when it was just us and le Arse challenging) that position was given to Park or Giggsy, most likely because Fergie wanted the security of having experience there while Ronnie did his thing on the other side.</p>
<p>My question is this: now that Ronaldo&#8217;s gone, can we basically put a rotation policy in place on the wings to give the potentials a chance even if it means a gamble on losing points in big matches?  I&#8217;m hoping yes, especially after seeing Cleverley on wednesday (one word came to mind &#8212; &#8220;class&#8221;).  With talents like him, Tosic, and now Obertan at our disposal I&#8217;d love to see them get some first team action&#8230;especially when it puts them to the ultimate test of whether they are fit to wear the shirt.</p>
<p>btw, this is only my second post, so feel free to let me know if it was too long, in the wrong place or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Megleeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megleeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has there ever been an instance of a manager being loaned out?</description>
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		<title>By: KVN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s reassuring that these young players are coming through the youth system and to see them (hopefully) fulfil their potential in Uniteds 1st team. What I liked about Cleverley was 3 things: his composure, confidence and football intelligence. Being at the right place and time and having the confidence in his footballing technique and the mental composure in front of goal not to panic but calmly put the ball in the back of the net, pure brilliance. I think SAF will keep him and not loan him out as he&#039;ll learn more from scholes and giggs than some championship players. Plus it&#039;s understanding the United way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s reassuring that these young players are coming through the youth system and to see them (hopefully) fulfil their potential in Uniteds 1st team. What I liked about Cleverley was 3 things: his composure, confidence and football intelligence. Being at the right place and time and having the confidence in his footballing technique and the mental composure in front of goal not to panic but calmly put the ball in the back of the net, pure brilliance. I think SAF will keep him and not loan him out as he&#8217;ll learn more from scholes and giggs than some championship players. Plus it&#8217;s understanding the United way.</p>
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		<title>By: Buildabonfire68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buildabonfire68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fergie isn&#039;t spending the Ronaldo money for a reason. He thinks he has good cover for every position. In the last few years he has invested heavily in youth. We are now seeing the product of this investment. Cleverley,   De Laet, Raphael, Fabio, Wellbeck, Macheda and Gibson are all fine young players and deserve there chance. If we keep buying superstars we will lose these players to other clubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fergie isn&#8217;t spending the Ronaldo money for a reason. He thinks he has good cover for every position. In the last few years he has invested heavily in youth. We are now seeing the product of this investment. Cleverley,   De Laet, Raphael, Fabio, Wellbeck, Macheda and Gibson are all fine young players and deserve there chance. If we keep buying superstars we will lose these players to other clubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Vader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Vader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two excellent posts from Denton Davey and Giles. Keep up the good work my friends as I always look forward to hearing your rational, well reasoned views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two excellent posts from Denton Davey and Giles. Keep up the good work my friends as I always look forward to hearing your rational, well reasoned views.</p>
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		<title>By: cantona7</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread makes me smile again. There are some very brilliant comments up there. I always come to this blog when I feel stressed in the office, because reading what fellow United fans&#039; thought are refreshing.

Anyway about Cleverley, as much as i would love to see him succeed with United, he is way behind in the pecking order. Sad to say but i dont think he can make it.

But the conclusion is, lol, SAF is one hell of a great man. But you cant compare SAF with Cantona though, because Cantona is not a man :)

SAF keeps on proving his critics wrong, and SAF will always find a way out. Scott, please make a competition on SAF&#039;s greatest acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread makes me smile again. There are some very brilliant comments up there. I always come to this blog when I feel stressed in the office, because reading what fellow United fans&#8217; thought are refreshing.</p>
<p>Anyway about Cleverley, as much as i would love to see him succeed with United, he is way behind in the pecking order. Sad to say but i dont think he can make it.</p>
<p>But the conclusion is, lol, SAF is one hell of a great man. But you cant compare SAF with Cantona though, because Cantona is not a man <img src='http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>SAF keeps on proving his critics wrong, and SAF will always find a way out. Scott, please make a competition on SAF&#8217;s greatest acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Starks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Starks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he goes to a Premiership team he will spend the whole season on the bench, like Campbell did last year.. Better to send him to Leicester again or keep him for the squad.</description>
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		<title>By: Giles Oakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giles Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Denton Davey. 

If the statements by Gill and Fergie are truthful, that United won&#039;t be buying more players and that they believe there are good young players coming through, that&#039;s good news. I&#039;m glad if they are resisting the temptation to spend all that Ronaldo money on a &#039;marquee signing&#039; and trusting youth. It&#039;s true there appears to be a very good crop of youngsters and I would love to see them given a chance, in the great United tradition. Of course it gets harder every year to risk inexperienced players but the success of Jonny Evans and Raphael and to a lesser extent  Gibson, Macheda and Welbeck shows it can be done, not to mention &#039;ones that got away&#039; like Rossi and Pique. I&#039;d like to see a steady stream of kids given games here and there, building up their experience. One of the little heralded features of the United structure these days is that players can slot seamlessly into the next level up as the basics are the same throughout the whole club, which is why so many of these kids do well straight away, even if they still subsequently get sold on.From that point of view it could be argued that loans are not the answer, the kids actually benefit more from training with the first team squad. The exposure to the competitive environment and the highest possible skill levels at the most successful club in the UK for the last 15 years gives a youngster something they could never get elsewhere. But, having said that, I&#039;d trust Fergie to get it right. Coming back to the thread about morality in the game the other day, part of that trust is based on the knowledge that Fergie really does seem to play fair by the young people in his care, hence allowing major talents like Rossi and Pique to leave, despite it being against United&#039;s best interests, as we saw last May with Pique.  It was one of the few redeeming features of Barca&#039;s victory over a strangely supine United was the way Pique made a point of speaking to his old friends at United , about whom he spoke very warmly. He expressed genuine gratitude for the coaching he&#039;d received and still regarded the club with real affection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Denton Davey. </p>
<p>If the statements by Gill and Fergie are truthful, that United won&#8217;t be buying more players and that they believe there are good young players coming through, that&#8217;s good news. I&#8217;m glad if they are resisting the temptation to spend all that Ronaldo money on a &#8216;marquee signing&#8217; and trusting youth. It&#8217;s true there appears to be a very good crop of youngsters and I would love to see them given a chance, in the great United tradition. Of course it gets harder every year to risk inexperienced players but the success of Jonny Evans and Raphael and to a lesser extent  Gibson, Macheda and Welbeck shows it can be done, not to mention &#8216;ones that got away&#8217; like Rossi and Pique. I&#8217;d like to see a steady stream of kids given games here and there, building up their experience. One of the little heralded features of the United structure these days is that players can slot seamlessly into the next level up as the basics are the same throughout the whole club, which is why so many of these kids do well straight away, even if they still subsequently get sold on.From that point of view it could be argued that loans are not the answer, the kids actually benefit more from training with the first team squad. The exposure to the competitive environment and the highest possible skill levels at the most successful club in the UK for the last 15 years gives a youngster something they could never get elsewhere. But, having said that, I&#8217;d trust Fergie to get it right. Coming back to the thread about morality in the game the other day, part of that trust is based on the knowledge that Fergie really does seem to play fair by the young people in his care, hence allowing major talents like Rossi and Pique to leave, despite it being against United&#8217;s best interests, as we saw last May with Pique.  It was one of the few redeeming features of Barca&#8217;s victory over a strangely supine United was the way Pique made a point of speaking to his old friends at United , about whom he spoke very warmly. He expressed genuine gratitude for the coaching he&#8217;d received and still regarded the club with real affection.</p>
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		<title>By: andsolskjaerhaswonit...</title>
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		<dc:creator>andsolskjaerhaswonit...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last season also, if i remember correctly,  Cleverly got a goal in South Africa on his debut but was no where to be seen near the first team.
I must admit, I haven&#039;t really seen much about the lad but if Fergie rates, then who am i to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last season also, if i remember correctly,  Cleverly got a goal in South Africa on his debut but was no where to be seen near the first team.<br />
I must admit, I haven&#8217;t really seen much about the lad but if Fergie rates, then who am i to decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul (No1Fan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (No1Fan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to write &#039;Neville&#039;!!!</description>
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