Following accusations that Sir Alex Ferguson offered his backing to the Glazers simply because he stood to gain financially from the proposed IPO, the manager has spoken out to deny these rumours.
“Being aware of the media coverage that is currently ongoing I felt, on this occasion, that I should make my position clear to the Manchester United fans,” said Ferguson. “In regards to suggestions that I have praised the Glazer Family because I stand to financially benefit from the proposed IPO, there is not a single grain of truth in this allegation. I do not receive any payments, directly or indirectly, from the IPO. Ultimately, I run the football side of this club and in order to do this, you need backing from above. The Glazer family have let me get on with my job, there is no interference or obstruction, only support. My decisions and beliefs are not based around what is best for my personal financial gain. That is an accusation that insults me. If that was the case, I would have left Old Trafford a long time ago. I am speaking out because I do not want a situation to develop whereby the media and other parties create a rift, however small, between myself and any Manchester United fan. I’ve spent 25 years of my life pushing this club forward and not only could I not have done it without those fans, I do it for them.”
Man Utd News 24/7
Still feel the same Scott?
Good. The last sentence sums it up well. Especially for those asking where we would be without Fergie. Takes two to dance..
its sickening to know some would doubt this great man…
Matt now what you have to say.
Whenever we fans question fergie it is us who are wrong. Look at when we supported that cunt tevez instead of fergie, it was sir alex at the end who was right. Even now we are questioning him and its him who is right.
Never question the boss
By the way this non football issue is becoming boring. Why n ot we fans wait for the IPO result and then comment. It would be a hit on the face of people if IPO becomes successful and we manage to clear most of our debt.
Roll on 20th aug for our 20th tittle
And each one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
Damn! I would like all those “fans” who questioned the Great man to come out now!
“My decisions and beliefs are not based around what is best for my personal financial gain. That is an accusation that insults me. If that was the case, I would have left Old Trafford a long time ago.”
I felt a pang when I read that comment. The man dedicates 25 years of his life for this great club, building it from the ground up just to have mud slung at him by the club’s fans!
In Fergie I Trust! Always!
Apologies accepted Matt…. Grasping cunt indeed. All these fuckers doubting Sir Alex should be ashamed and don’t deserve the great man to be managing their team!
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/lucas-moura-s-parents-have-told-sao-paulo-he-only-wants-mancheste
New turn in moura saga. It is getting thriller.
It’s a pity when those second rate fans fucked of to FC United they left so many clowns behind. Bunch of wankers.
Honestly it pisses me off that the boss feels he has to defend himself from such baseless and lurid accusations. Fucking disgrace
Sir Alex “I’ve spent 25 years pushing this club forward and not only could I not have done it without those fans, I do it for them.”. Thanks Sir Alex, from a fan that appreciates all you’ve done for this club.
Hello rom. Long time. Been busy with my family.
Glad to hear this from sir alex. We always trust you. No need to prove that you are honest.
Any one doubting the great man should go and shove an oak tree up their asses
@Ash
And if you ask my parents, they will tell you that I only want Megan Fox. Doesn’t mean I am going to get her.
I will say it once and say it again Fergie is teh greatest manager of all time. I will also say fans have the right to object his opinion of how we feel towards our owners.
This is separate to the debate as sensible reds who have been posting have not suggested Fergie would benefit from the IPO.
Great last comment he has done it for the fans, exactly why I always state he is not above the club, he is part of it.
Agreed, its a disgrace he even had to say the above.
from last post:
Parry,
Thanks for info. People who want to bitch about SAF will keep on bitching. Nothing we can do.
As an investor, I don’t like the thought of more shares ‘probably’ coming 6 months. I’d think about waiting for those instead of getting in front of that dilution. Or wish they waited until ’13 to float the shares.
I will always say it again n again, all this open letter or protest will not force d glazers out. The best way is not to attend matches, empty stadium will put pressure to everybody @ d club
Those who bought the media stories, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Go hide in a hole and never come out again please
Giggs12Gerrard0
It would appear from the recent scandalous Red Issue attack on Sir Alex that sensible fans are few and far between.
@Brett1985 – SPOT ON! All those fucking cowards and TRAITORS piss me off no end. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Shame they didn’t take all the rubbish with them.
IN FERGIE I TRUST.
Feel like hanging my head in shame since those who should, still wont
I feel embarrassed Sir Alex feels the need to justify himself. I’ve said before, I don’t think we’ll find out what Fergie really thinks about the Glazers until he retires or they sell up. Until then, what do we expect from him, to slag them of and risk getting the sack? Where would we be then? So what if he did benefit financially, he’s the best manager in the world, Uniteds best of all time, yet there are managers out there earning more than him and players playing for him that earn more. Let’s remember where we were before Sir Alex, we are forever in his debt.
Gentle
Never going to happen!
Gentle
You are not gentle. Ho will it help us fans stop supporting united. We will be in loss. There will be no good revenue. Talk some sense. We are still a top team who are aiming for every top accolades. I hope the IPO is a major success and we manage to wipe out the debt.
Damn big typos – I meant how will it help if the fans stop supporting us.
Brett
I agree mate but Red Issue have been on one about fergie since 2005 so nothing new there for me! They are not the voice of all reds mate, i get pissed of reading no questions Sir Alex, he is bigger than the club. That is bollox and Fergie would be the first person to say the same.
I had a big debate on here last year when Fergie apologized for the teams performance as he picked a woeful 11 for a huge game. Everyone went mad saying its embarrassing he has had to come out and defend his selection. I thought he definitely did and was made up that he shown us the humility as he cares.
Fergie is not a god he is a football manager, it just so happens for us he is the greatest one of all time.
don’t believe a word what he says – glazers are horrible owners – they stripped united of about 500 millions pounds over these years and you all deluded people who say – “fergusson always right” – you haven’t got a fucking clue what you are talking about..
All those doubting the Master,
Hang your collective heads in shame, u fucking gimps..
Yeah let us stop attending matches so that our revenue generation becomes poor. Man what has happened to some of the guys here.Has Anyone done a black magic to them
What a sorry state of affairs this is that Sir Alex feels compelled to address this nonsense. The man has given his heart and soul to the club and yet he gets skewered over some idiotic perception that he’s siding with the Glazers over the supporters.
Take the man at his word, he’s happy working under the current owners. Do people realize how good we have it? The debt is truly awful but we have a living legend running our club who is beyond happy with his current employers. Fucking get over it! Leave Fergie alone.
Gentle
Boycotting matches? An utterly lamentable suggestion. I suppose you think you are the best supporter around? I’m sure the Glazer’s have been laughing at the ‘fans’ who opposed them. Not a ounce of strategy or a brain cell between them.
It’s the media that spreads all this rubbish.
Brett- well said, Everyone won;t boycott Manchester united.
I mean come on what sort of post is this?
“All those doubting the Master,
Hang your collective heads in shame, u fucking gimps.”
Its just fucking stupid and winds me up. Fergie is a union man from Govern and i still believe he holds on the morale’s that endears us to him. He would never say he is the master, maybe the boss or gaffer but none of this bull shit ideology.
Manchester United is not one man, no would should disrespect him after what he has done for us but that does not sit him above questioning.
Disclaimer – Love SAF he is the greatest manager of all time before anyone takes my post out of context.
hahaha what a fucking joke, some idiots say glazers are good
DD this is pure mental
I stand by the boss. I think REAL fans will do the same. I have been shocked at some of the things that I have read. Some fans have let their hate for the Glazers (which is warranted) cloud their judgement on the boss.
Ash – I hope the IPO is successful but disappointed the Glazers will make money off of it. Pay the debt then look to make money through the club. Silly really to expect the Glazers not to try and make money when they can, they are after all in the money making business, but hopefully not at the expense of the overall health of the club both financially and competitively.
Giggs12
Well I’m glad to hear that about Red Issue. It is disappointing that said publication is still in existence. I am also disappointed at the selection of such an article for this blog unless the emphasis was for contributors to ridicule it. Why is it I get the impression that there was anterior motives.
Strong and positive statement.
But in no way does it make it wrong to have raised the question (and others) in the first place.
Nobody is above answering to fans and explaining themselves, not even Fergie. The belief that anyone is above questioning leads to the cultish weirdness you see at Liverpool (Benitez, Dalglish), which in turn leads to alarming apathy.
Not at this club, thanks.
And once again…….
Each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
I’m still shocked to the core than anyone doubted Fergie. Don’t get me wrong – he is probably as partial to an easy quid or two as any of us are, but to question whether he would jeopardise the financial future of the club by taking money out for himself is utter blasphemy. He is so privileged to be United’s manager, but he has earned that privilege through a quarter of a century of total sacrifice – I don’t think any of us can comprehend how much of ones life is spent being a manager of a football club, let alone united.
Furthermore, and I know that this is going to be seen by a lot of you as a controversial thing to say, but I think it’s time we started showing the Glazers some respect. On the surface, a lot of what I’ve seen has made my blood boil. At times I’ve felt like nothing more than smacking Malcom Glazer in the face and kicking him in the nuts over and over, but if Sir Alex has faith in him and his family, then I think we should do.
I have always put all my trust in our manager. He is not the kind of man who will put on a mask and offer backing to the clubs owners if he think the club is in trouble. When he calls for us to rebel against the owners, this is what I will do. When he says that they’re letting him manage with freedom, I will ignore any trash spun by desperate journalists and continue to support United with everything I have.
@kanchelskis
Well said.
Who is going to bet his knickers that Powel and Kagawa are the only 2 signings we are going to make this summer ?
I’m sorry for being negative but that seems to be the story !
Someone heard about V.Persie agent sayin that he already signed a contract for Juventus ?
Lewandofski ?
Baines ?
Moura ?
I’m feeling sick and tired……………
Giggs12
Being referred to as the Master needn’t be in as in the case of Master-Slave. It could mean “A skilled practitioner of a particular art or activity”. Like I would refer to Roger Federer as the Master, or Sachin Tendulkar as the Master, or Michael Jordan as the master. Well you get my point. Sir Alex is the Master! There is no doubt about that!
@ASH
I don’t think u will die if u boycott 2-3 matches despite having bought d tickets. It is a means to make a bold statement
Brett
Thats the thing mate you will always get militant fanzines and fans who will buy into it. I personally stopped buying it and switched to United We Stand because of the slurs of Fergie. This blog should cover everything from the good, the bad, and the ugly otherwise it will just be a lemming wank fest on everything United.
Manchester United sometimes is diluted at the media and worldwide perception, but you only need 90 mins at an away ground to realize there is a massive strong hold who don’t give a fuck and will say what they think. It is that reason why we have always been so close to the boss he loves the away crowd and probably the reason he has come out and said what he has. The thing is no proper red is suggesting he stands to make money, but there are many proper reds who are fucked off with him for questioning a particular stance on the owners.
@Costas @Giggs12
Y’all are on a level.
Ironic that in a period when Fergie’s use of the phrase ‘real fans’ has enraged so many, there are so many others desperate to paint themselves as ‘real fans’ or ‘top reds’ by deifying the manager to embarrassing levels. Like I said, we’re not fucking scousers.
So sad SAF had to do this,just coz you attend matches(any1 lucky enough to be british and is a red will gladly do)doesn’t make you a more loyal red,far from it.am a nigerian&my dad has taken me to old trafford more than ten times,who says i won’t go to all d matches if am british.paying for skysports to watch matches&getting jerseys is still dying for the united course,its money spent on united.whoever has insinuated SAF is after peronal gain or insults dis man is just crap
@gerrard
Wateva your opinion is fine,but for me SAF owes manutd fuck all,and he doesn’t have to do this.simple.he isn’t above sensible criticism buh he is my manutd God,might not be yours
Just shows what rubbish they sit around
inventing in the MUST office.
Only last week, they were telling everyone that
the IPO had been scrapped, yet it then launches
48 hours later!!!
And these clowns want a say in running the club.
Drunken Dragon creates more fairy tales than
Hans Christian Andersen…enuff said
Redmanwalking
But in the context ” No one questions the master” is what i was referring to so not really the same imho.
Kanchelskis
Perfect post as to what i have hopefully been trying to put across.
Cedars – that should be the first chant hear at OT this season.
I had my reservations about Fergie’s constant defence of the Glazers, whilst understanding it to an extent, but I never entertained the idea that he could be in cahoots with him and I dont think any reasonable fan would. I’m glad he has come and said this but he shouldnt have to defend himself against this shite.
Giggs12
I agree that Sir Alex has got his selections wrong at times. But to question his loyalty, mate (Not implying you did)? After 25 years and he is not even the highest paid manager at the moment. Plenty of clubs that would pay triple for his services (Real Madrid). I don’t think he should have to come out and defend his loyalty.
My love for Sir Alex will never wane. The acusations by some fans only goes to strengthen my belief that we are a bunch spoilt cunts who believes everything should be handed to us on a bloody plate. Not just the prawn sandwich eaters, not just the boys from Surrey or the far East but also from a bunch of elitest mancs. Shame on us.
In regards the welsh players not singing the anthem last night and that includes Giggs. As a proud Englishman I stand 100% behind your decision but maybe not for the reasons you think. If you didnt sing the anthem because you hold some silly nationalistic belief that England is an oppressor state and the occupying power then you can piss off. As far as I can see in all sense and purposes Wales is a group of counties as England is agroup of counties and scotland is a group of counties in a fantastic alliance. Of course officially we are individual countries and when it suits us we remain that way. As far as I can see we are all brothers and our blood lines have intermingled to such a degree that we are the same family, of which Im proud.
As for the not singing of the anthem I agree with the welsh as the GB anthem is the same as the English anthem. That is deeply insulting to the Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish that have to sing it. I would like to hope that the Welsh Scottish and N.Irish would sing it with pride should it not be the English anthem. I hope they do not want to be a republic and I do hope that they see the “English” royal family as their royal family even if that is not the case dating back to the 1300′s. I would like it if God Save the Queen remained the alliance national anthem and England some how made the decision to remove God Save the Queen as their anthem and replace it with either Land of Hope and Glory OR Jerusalem. I hope that would be acceptable for the Scots, Welsh and N.Irish.
Any of you out there let me know and if not why, Im keen to learn more.
Shebangsthedrums
Indeed me love, indeed
After 25 years at the club its an absolute disgarace that our manager has too release a statement like this. Fuck you all that have question our mangers motives, you guys make me sick!!!
Jay4manutd
Mate have an opinion im glad you do, by your last sentence you have clearly nor read my comments please do before addressing me on what you think you know about me.
I will say Fergie would 100% agree with my posts on my opinion of him, he would completely disagree with my view on the owners but that is another subject.
And yet again
Each and every one us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
Unbelievable that a few idiots interested only in generating publicity for themselves bring shame to our club yet again. Why does SAF feel he has to respond to that scum who don’t represent real fans.
And so I will as a Manchester United fan accept everyone’s apologies over this matter
Without the gaffer we wouldn’t be here – is he perfect – fuck no but he’s a damn sight fucking better than everyone since Sir Matt and we have never been the same since
Without him we would have been just a club, with him Manchester United are what they are because of his loyalty and ability to keep on taking this club forward.
People who curse him don’t get it – he is Manchester United, and we can start hitting the fucking shit fans when he goes because he hasn’t just given a club it’s name back, he gave this club it’s soul back.
Do not ever forget where we were 25 years ago without him.
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Redmanwalking
Mate I have never questioned his loyalty i love the man, again he is the greatest manager of all time but lets have some reality, he is not a god, he is not bigger than Manchester United, Machester United owes Fergie as much he owes it, he is not above questionning and it is that reason why he is class.
Its just a shame that some fans want to be holier than though.
Goat
Your the biggest xenophobic poster on here stop having a pop at mancs mate! No one has had a go at foreign fans or international reds its just in your mind pal.
The headline scott did some few days back “SAF slagging off the fans”is so worse and exagerated,SAF did no such thing.good to some xtent he came out with this,we can get back to football.the media wants manutd to fail,they will print all the nagtives abt the IPO(not the positives),fans buys into it and it creates a rift.if this IPO ends a success,lots of people wil hang their head in shame
You call SAF a cunt when he is neva insulted any fan for some 25yrs nw(just different opinions abt the glazers to ours).how many of you can say that to his face,cowards.he is a legend,a father and he is examplary.someone gave you unprecedented success,den you turn against him calling him cunts coz you want him to slag the owners off and make everyworse.pathetic people
And again
Each and every one us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
Never going to tire of this
in FERGIE i trust
CedarsDevil says:
Never going to tire of this
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At least someone won’t then…
What Cedars just said.
Fergie DESERVES to gain financially from the IPO. I would want him to gain a significant sum from the proceeds. So should every United supporter who has witnessed the any part of the last 25 years.
But sadly, because of some utter morons who accused Fergie of his integrity, none of the proceeds will go to him ( even if he does the great man will refuse).
“My decisions and beliefs are not based around what is best for my personal financial gain. That is an accusation that insults me”
Hang your heads in shame if you insulted Sir Alex. Or go write for the Guardian and assorted ABU media.
Bob cass on twitter
Shameful SAF has to respond to scurrilous speculation. The warning signs are there – United fans may reap what they sow…couldn’t agree more.disgusting and really shamefull.hurting me badly
well i did say in the post scott put out questioning sir alex and writing an open letter that ppl needed to have a good look at themselves as ppl are starting to read whats in the press and believe it wen we all no how much shit they talk…lets just get behind the great scott, bring a few more players in and push on to retake the title….also we already no about the feelings alot of fans have towards the glazers, just hope we can concentrate on football matters especially wen theres a game on instead of constantly shouting glazers out, we need to muster everything we have this year thats the fans and players together as theres no doubt those cunts across the road are gona wana keep there title so BRING IT ON!!!
Giggs12
As I mentioned in my previous post, never implied that you questioned his loyalty, mate. And that’s all I’m saying. After 25 years, it should never have been questioned. He has dedicated 25 years of his life to build this club from ground up, investing in youth, injecting that never say die attitude into its players. Like MG put it, he returned the soul of the club back to it. Whatever you question of his, loyalty should have been the last thing. He has done THAT much for this great club of ours.
The fact that some mugs had to force Sir Alex to come out and actually do something like this is very appaling and shameful. NEVER would Sir Alex profit from this club atthe expense of the fans. He has sacrificed TOO MUCH at this point to even think about doing that. Even if he was getting shares from the IPO proceedings. It would not represent any profit at the expense of the fans. Shocking stuff.
Parryheid I would love for you to post your redcafe commento n here again. It was fantastic an best explains it. We all appreciate you sir and we beg you not to leave until your work here is done.
@jay4manutd
Well done on quoting one of the most fuckwitted journos in existence. Want to know how fergie and cass get on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhZt6eQsqk
cedars, i’ll sing with you mate!
“Every single one of us LOVES Alex Ferguson, LOVES Alex Ferguson!”
Oh God, i cant imagine seeing another face than him in United dug out…
Giggs12Gerrard0
I said all were to blame. Whats xenophobic about blaming everyone. As fans we are a collective even if we ALL are wanting sometimes. When reading a post read it in its entirety. If you read a very small portion you can make anything sound bad.
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL BEHAVIOUR FROM SOME UNITED FANS. MANAGER IS REALY HURT . THATS EVIDENT. some one here called him A CUNT . my message to that guy is just fuck off. the man has spent 25 years here.he is already pretty rich. its just pathetic to question his integrity.GREATEST manger of all time and more importantly A GREAT HUMAN BEING.
There was no need for Fergie to release this statement. didn’t think it was possible but I have more respect for him for doing so, and condemn anyone who says he’s “putting a spin” on it.
Think this page needs updating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality
3.2.5 Old Trafford
TheCANTONA
Lets just get bouncing for the boss and the club……
@CedarsDevil
“the boss and the club”
You don’t think that’s the wrong way round?
To sum it up, some fans are ungrateful twats. Even if he did get some of that money, I wouldnt care that much after 12 titles and 2 European cups.
@kanchelskis atleast he is spot on on this
fans just be mad at the glazers, not fergie
Dont be fooled, the IPO is an Initial Public Offering, the issue is the Employment Benefit Scheme ffs.
kanchelskis
You have a point, but does it matter?
Any hoo I am pissing off
And the accusation being made against him in the first place was useless and baseless. The shares that will be given to the select employees are the Glazers personal shares which are about 8.3 million in number.
This is common place in many public companies. They reward their employees with shares or the monetary equivalent when they make a big gain on the stock exchange. Why this was mistaken as an attempt by select employees at the club to make gains from the fans is completely ridiculous. Parryheid gave an example in the Hernandez post that his sister who works for a public was also rewarded some shares but she had NEVER tried to exploit customers and make a personal profit for herself. Why is Manchester United now exempt?
All Fergie was trying to say was that the Glazers had given him total freedom to run the football side of the club as best as he could and this is the DREAM of ANY manager out there. Interference from above played a massive role in why Mourinho was sacked from Chelsea. Would we all like it if the Glazers could sign a player that Fergie did not give consent to? No we would not.
Hopefully we can all move on from this and concentrate on the football now. GGMU. 20 is the focus.
You guys really need to read the document, SAF says he’s not benefitting from the IPO directly or otherwise, well that’s the IPO says, that as well as an IPO there is also an Employee Benefit Scheme that is distinct from the IPO, call me all you want it’s in black and white right there in the document.
You’re the fool one. He says he dont receive any payments from IPO and i believe him than some warrior keyboard like you.
CedarsDevil says:
kanchelskis
You have a point, but does it matter?
Any hoo I am pissing off
__________________________________________________________________
Yeh, don’t wanna spend too long with your head out of the sand, eh?
Respect to Fergie for this statement. He didn’t need to do this but it was good of him to address the fans’ concerns.
He even got a dig in at the Glazier boys: “My decisions and beliefs are not based around what is best for my personal financial gain…. If that was the case, I would have left Old Trafford a long time ago.” Ouch! I knew all along that Fergie hated the Glazers – how could he not? It will all come out in the final revision of his autobiography.
Costas – just got your message about Karagounis. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Fergie, you know what to do!
@Mattbw7
And he still can refused it didnt he? And again the only EMPLOYEE who deserve the benefit from the IPO is Sir Alex Ferguson himself..
This should be fun. Ferdinand has denied the FA’s charge.
@Fred
It’s destiny, I am telling you.
In Sir, we trust!
He is not above the club. I agree with that notion, but the questions some fans raised was utterly bigoted. He talked in general but some fans took it personally. We owe him, does he owe us? NAAA!!
” Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if i have said it, unless it agress with your own reason and your own common sense.” Buddha
….loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson….
Matt
Sir alex has openly refused that he is not earning anything and yet you keep on saying that he will earn. Does the document reads that The Manager of Manchester United Mr Sir ALex Ferguson will also receive share. Does it say that? Instead of accepting you were wrong you still criticize sir alex.
If you had some respect for this man you will not say a thong against him now but now also you are saying which shows you hate sir alex more. Pathetic stuff from you mate.
Honestly, I have one thing to say. I was on the verge of tears when I read that statement.
This is the man who has built this club from the ashes. This is the man who is the major (NOTE: not “only”) reason United are a world force right now. This is the man who is the reason we are the most valued sporting brand in the world. This man is the reason why a large percentage of us follow this great club. This is the man who has taken on Sir Matt’s challenge and made this club what it is. This is the man who gave life to what was a club in ruins and on verge of complete collapse. This is the man who has given more than a third of his life to keeping this club relevant, when every other club has risen and fallen time and again.
And we have the gall to question this man. Who the fuck do we think we are? I heard people say “Fans are the club’s greatest asset.” Well, if you don’t realize that this man “is this” club, then what kind of a fan are you. No one person is greater than the club is what I’ve heard time and again in this stupidest of all arguments. What if the two aren’t different? What if one cannot fundamentally exist right now without the other? Manchester United wouldn’t be anywhere near relevant right now if it weren’t for the sweat and toil of this great man.
And people think it is right to question this man? FUCK OFF! You’re not fans. I don’t care how long you’ve been supporting United. I’ve only been doing it for 10 years. I don’t care if you’ve been doing it since before Munich. If you were one of those who spread these allegations, then you don’t deserve to be a Manchester United fan. Period. I don’t care if I get crucified for that on this blog but that’s a fact.
Sir Alex Ferguson has once again shown what kind of a person he is. That he has even chosen to respond to these allegations from spineless assholes shows why he is the greatest ever. But that some amongst us put him in this position of having to defend himself disgusts me. I don’t think I’ve ever been disgusted about another United fan like I am right now. I feel like puking at what these fans have done to Sir Alex.
Fuck Off is all I can say. You don’t deserve Sir Alex Ferguson.
Shameful from some ‘Top Reds’. Nuff said
Sir Alex makes me so proud to be part of this truly great club; However, parts of our ‘support’ make me feel the exact opposite
Yes but Matt has to justify his Cunt comment. No matter what anyone says he’ll not change his stance. He’s wrong and been proved wrong by the SAF statement but still keeps chipping away. He should receive the V.C for defending a useless position.
Balaji
Top post mate. Even I felt so bad for him After seeing what he said. Its like calling your parents a thief. It hurts. No proof yet some thick head fools accuse him. negative cunts.
Retirement is nigh for the man from govan, things like this will only start making his mine up faster than expected.
No human is perfect and certainly not beyond questioning but personally, i can’t really see why a man, who’s amongst the highest earners in the game, he doesn’t need the money. I hope this doesn’t deflect attention from the task at hand, fighting for titles.
So, I was reading back and read that we should not deify Sir Alex.
Why then does the club have the statues of Sir Matt and the holy trinity outside Old Trafford. Why then did the club unveil a Sir Alex Ferguson stand last year? If that isn’t deifying, then what is. And what is wrong with deifying someone who has made this club what it is right now. Could another person have done what Sir Alex did? Maybe, possibly. But until someone proves that, I don’t think Sir Alex’s record and what he is achieved with a single club.
Sir Alex isn’t God. I have questioned his footballing decisions a lot of times. But I have never questioned his morals when it comes to United. I have never felt the need to. The fact that some would disgusts me. He would never do a thing that he feels isn’t morally right on his part for United.
So, if my post comes across as someone looking to show himself as a “true Red” by deifying Sir Alex, I don’t need to apologize. If the need arose again, I would post the same thing again.
His mind*
James
Matt cannot justify because he himself knows that it is not correct. He has no proof and is yet accusing Sir alex even after the man himself has said he has not received the share. From the first day the matt guy wants the IPO to fail without giving a proper reasons. Taking all the negative facts and posting here will not make him correct,
Personally I never doubted that Sir Alex would do such a thing. I think it means a lot to him to leave a legacy at United and why would he put 25 years of hard work into creating what United is today and diminish it all for the sake of some more dosh! afterall he is alredy rich! I may be naive in my thinking but thats how i feel.
Well said SAF! The season kickoff cannot get here fast enough!
Take that you haters,
take that you bloody haters,
take that you bloody conspiracy haters,
take that you bloody haters that insult th legend,
take that up in your fucking arse you bloody anti SAF gang…
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what a football manager expects from the owner? A complete authority on the footballing side of the club and that is being given to Sir Alex, agreed he isnt getting too much of a transfer kitty, but that might change..
and all these fucking haters thought Sir Alex pockets some money from this IPO..
bloody fucking myopic fans insult the legend like that..pathetic..
now is there any of this statement that some of you dont understand?
feel free to debate..
Evening you RED beauties around the world..
Sir Alex’s statement exposes MUST lies in as clear a manner as is possible,how can any poster ever again place credence on anything AndersRed & Must say in future.Their reputation lies in tatters thanks Sir Alex for your GFY.
Smashley
Well said mate. Its quite surprising that even a liverpool fans understand that but a certain matt cannot. Yesterday I saw a comment from a chelsea fan and he said” Man united fans are fool if they question sir alex. We (Chelsea) have never had the privilege of having such a great manager but Man united have but still criticize him”
He is right. we should be lucky to have manager like Sir alex
smashley, Yeah, I wish all United fans would think as clearly as you do. You’ve hit the nail on the head. He has spent 25 years establishing a legacy, why would he throw it all away from some cash? And what is he going to do with a few extra quid right now/? Save up for retirement? He is 70 years old and definitely in his twilight years both as a manager and as a human being. He already has enough wealth to feed multiple generations. Why does he need to do this? A fundamental question that brainless oafs didn’t think of before questioning his actions.
samuel
And funny thing is he is not even the greatest earner. If I remember right, good ol’ Arsene has a bigger paycheck than him. If it was all about the money, are these ‘top reds’ telling me that no other club would pay him more than what he earns at United. A man with his credentials?
“If that was the case, I would have left Old Trafford a long time ago”
Aren’t we lucky, he didn’t?
Top post from Balaji. I was almost in tears myself.
After reading all the comments I have to say I am proud of this Blog. Apart from that cunt (Matt) everyone is supporting our sir alex. People like Balaji,Ash,Danny,Cedars,Brett,Goat,james deserve a special mention. All of you guys have done a great job in supporting the manager.
Sir alex you are the best.
I’ve never, for one moment, questioned Sir Alex with regard to his comments about the glazers. I absolutely detest the Glazer ownership of our club, but I do not agree with a lot of things fans say on here about Sir Alex’s views about them, as well as the suggestions on how we could get rid of them. The most ridiculous one (in my view) is the suggestion that we should destroy the club to get rid of them. You are just plainly deluded if you ever thought it would be easy to restore our club once you destroyed it.
I’ve always looked at what Sir Alex says about the Glazers with more than a pinch of salt. Realistically, Sir Alex is just being pragmatic in saying what he did about the Glazers. Think of the possible detrimental consequences on the players and the rest of his staff if he did otherwise and lambasted the Glazers in public. I’m sure of one thing, we would never have been as successful if that had happened. Just ask yourselves, would anyone want to join a club that publicly displays that kind of internal turmoil at the management level? You’re free to disagree with me, it’s a free world, so I won’t be responding to anyone who does so. I’ve been absolutely disgusted with a lot of the comments here directed against Sir Alex.
Fuck me, even the dippers don’t doubt Fergie, but that’s more than can be said for our homebred cunts…beyond shameful now
Off topic for a moment: the cheating, diving, fouling, biting, racist maniac Luis Suarez has criticised British fans who booed the Uruguay anthem last night. “I can take the abuse. I don’t mind. But I think it was a total lack of respect from the crowd to boo when we were trying to sing our anthem.”
This from the man who told Patrice Evra that he kicked him “because you are black”, then refused to explain the comment to Patrice because “I don’t speak to blacks.” That was just a cultural misunderstanding though…
Anyway, there’s a funny poll on the Huffington Post site: Why do you boo Luis Suarez?
- Because he dives 4.52%
26.77%
- Because he shows no penitence when cheating 11.29%
- He was found guilty of racially abusing a footballer 20%
- He plays for Liverpool 4.84%
- All of the above
- I don’t boo Luis Suárez 22.26%
- Because I am scared of him 10.32% (obviously all Liverpool and Uruguay fans)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/02/luis-suarez-booed-scared-agree_n_1732208.html
“I’ve spent 25 years of my life pushing this club forward and not only could I not have done it without those fans, I do it for them”
Brought a tear to my eye.
smashley – Cheers mate!
Sandy, Balaji and any other Indian fans on here -
99 Champions League final on Ten Action right now. Just started.
Sir Alex – apologies on behalf of the fan base. You are one of the reasons we are where we are today.
Fred – You beat me to it. They don’t pay him enough!
Atin, Cheers mate. Will catch it if possible.
Lads, I think this is what we should do. Just like some of them made that questionnaire go viral.
I think the rest of us should write a letter of apology and make it go viral and even mail it to the great man himself.
I think we owe it to Sir Alex Ferguson to let him know that we care.
brett1985 says:
It’s a pity when those second rate fans fucked of to FC United they left so many clowns behind. Bunch of wankers.
You mean a large section of our away support that Sir Alex loves?
I for one don’t subscribe to blind loyalty. Questions should be raised against Sir Alex if there’s a reason for that. Lets not start acting like his feelings were hurt, lol. We are talking about the same man that’s survived at United for 25 years due to his ruthless attitude. He can take it and credit to him for responding immediately and putting the issue to bed. He’s human and he makes mistakes. And lets not forget who had his back more than anyone during the Rock of Gibraltar fiasco. That’s right, it was the fans. I’ve only known one Manchester United manager in my lifetime, but the club wasn’t born in 1986 and it won’t die when he retires. As sad a day that will be.
I dont know what people expect.
Sir Alex isn’t going to speak out against his bosses.
It is a shame that Sir Alex has to come out and make a statement like this to the fans. We should have never had any doubts at all about this man who has given his all for the Club.
Wish the players perform their best and the fans give their full support during the next season and do it for Sir Alex. They owe him one.
Harish
Thanks for the mention. I love the old guy with passion and when some people come on here and call him a cunt, I won’t stand for it. I’m still waiting for another Link from Matt to try and justify himself. Reminds me of a bitter and twisted man and one I’ve never really liked as a poster. I’m sure he can live with that just as I’ll live with the fact he’ll never address me on here or in public.
Matt
Even Andy Green (who I believe is a little more financially savvy than yourself) who went live on Sky News questioning Sir Alex has held his hands up and said he got it wrong! Give it a rest now, you’remaking yourself luck a cunt! What do you want? Would you like Sir Alex to quote every paragraph in the prospectus which could possibly relate to him and refute any wrong doing??
Atin,
thanks pal, do you have direct stream link to Ten Sports TV?
MUST can go fuck themselves too
That’s a spanner in their works – fucking idiots – resenting the Glazer’s for what they have done are doing is one thing – understanding it as an unfortunate consequence in business is one thing – but to constantly just bullshit themselves out – destroy the club – stop going to matches stop buying the shirt… And questioning SAF…
Disgrace
Today we let ourselves down – we couldn’t protect our club from bullshit because some of us joined in – that is where the lesson lies to learn
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@Balaji: LOve that idea – was just texting the same thing to cedars a moment back. Count me in – smart ways of doing it? Can we send an email to the club, requesting that it be borught to SAF’s notice (how presumptious of me!)? I am sure Fergie doesnt check FB or twatter!
RedmanWalking – FERGIE wouldn’t ruin everything he has dedicated 25years to (and that’s a large chunk of one’s life). Loves the club and exerts all his energy into making it prosper. He’s building yet another wonderful team that would serve his successor when he retires, he’s laying foundations that no manager in the game can or will do (yes i include the self anointed ‘special one’). If FERGIE wanted money, he’d pack off to russia or somewhere sunny like qatar but he’s dedicated to united. Let’s be honest, he’s not perfect or beyond questioning, he has made countless of mistakes and will continue to do so but his presence at manchester united strengthens the club more than it weakens it.
Like i’ve said previously, we shouldn’t let our frustrations regarding the glazers’ embesslement cloud our judgement.
Costas, I agree with your general view. “Questions should be raised against Sir Alex if there’s a reason for that.”
We’ve done that time and again on these very boards. We’ve questioned his transfer decisions, we’ve questioned his decision to bench Berba, we’ve questioned his decision to marginalize Berba, we’ve questioned his decision to send Fabio out on loan, we’ve questioned his decision to not bring in a mid-fielder. We’ve even questioned his decision to change his stance for Rooney alone. We’ve questioned his decision to let youngsters like Pogba, Morrison and Fryers leave.
What is common between all of them? Yup, you got it right. They’re footballing decisions. They’re decisions he gets to make and he is responsible for. They’re things that he chooses to make mistakes on. And most importantly, they’re things which we can rightfully question him for.
We however cannot question for decisions not of his making. If the Glazer family mention that top members at the club get a cut (which he has explicitly stated he isn’t going to), how is that involved with Sir Alex? It is not his decision. It is from up above.
He is a football manager. Period. Question his footballing decisions. That is all you have the right to do anyway. if you want to question the financial decisions, that is what David Gill and The Glazers are there for.
Sir Alex could have said, ” fuck off to the fans who doubted him”,
but he aint gonna do that, he has respect for fans,
its really a shame that he has to defend himself even after being 25 years in charge of this great club..
Costas
I disagree, if there were strong allegations of wrong doing by Sir Alex, then I agree, questions should be asked. There wasn’t. People with other agenda’s looked at a document and decided to dissect a section which they knew nothing about and fabricated a scenario that if you through in a load of ifs buts and maybes, paint Sir Alex on a less favourable light. Anybody can throw a load of guess work at a comment or a situation and mould it to suit their own brief. My place of employment is short of cash and people have lost their jobs… I received a pay rise and I don’t for one minute expect to be answering to people as to what I earn or what kind of rise or bonus I will be receiving.
jeet, I think some of us should draft a detailed apology letter right away. I don’t think I am the right person for it. If Cedars can get in touch with someone like Giles and get him to do it, I would greatly appreciate it. We need not sign it individually. But we can definitely send it to the club mail or get someone from Manchester like James to do it. I am sure they would willingly oblige. I personally feel Giles, if someone can get in touch with him, is the right person to do it.
Ive called Sir Alex a cunt on numerous occasions but not with conviction, only when hes made a silly substitution or failed to see a bit of danger from the dugout. I don’t think that people are mad with Matt on here for calling Sir Alex a cunt but rather how convinced he is of Sir Alexs lack of integrity as he see it. Hes a Scot (lol – only joking), he’s made some poor decisions, I still cant fathom out everything he says but I have never once questioned his integrity. On what grounds. I was thinking about bad things to say about him (see above) and came up with a joke, difference of match time opinion (rare as it is) and hs accent. Not bad is it, not that bad a man.?
He is such an integral part to Manchester United and its history especially in my short life span (37) that Im starting to question whether there would be a life after Sir Alex at OT for me. Im so ingrained into his way of thinking in regards football that Im starting to not be able to see Manchester United without him. In life there are times when you make a clean break from things and am seriously wondering that when the day comes (and I do believe he will die of old age and on the job – by that I dont mean on his missus) I will be so distraught that I may well just walk away from football. Thats what he means to me.
samuel – Exactly!
Samuel,
At the same time, we shouldn’t let our frustrations regarding the glazers’ embesslement cloud our judgement on SIR ALEX and then blaming him about conspiracies such as he pockets money..
fair eh?
Got the response you wanted scott?? How sad for the great man to comment on such baseless statements.
It shouldn’t have come to this. we know the media wants a story but we shouldn’t be swayed by such nonsense. GGMU
sandy – not really, but then I have a plain and good ol’ fashioned tv. All 32inch LCD of it!
If the question was raised based on a stupid rumor, then it should be consider as an insult to the man.
Jeet,
here you,
SirAlex@borntobeachampion.com
good luck mate
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On a serious note, i m in for this great idea, lets do it, do it the United way!!
jeet, Get Cedars to check his mail ASAP, and you guys should as well.
jeet, Balaji –
Great idea. I’m in. I think getting some of the brilliant writers here to do it is a brilliant idea. Giles, MG, even you Balaji, could do it!
Balaji,
I have about 135 members on my ROM FB page,
anything you need, just drop me a mail pal,
it will be signed, sealed and delivered…
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We can start working on the contents of the letter – small, swift and precise.
Let the world know that football brains and passion still exists..
Thanks to the moron who thinks he represents us all.. Now you and I look like a moron ourselves.
And I will be the first one to buy Manchester United shares when they are issued Dont like the ticker symbol though
How sad that this great man has to make such a statement.
Anyway, the last episode of Agent of Fergie…
http://www.agentoffergie.com/2012/08/playmates-part-six.html
Laters y’alls!
Me a writer?
Never
But sorry guys the only writing I’m doing after this whole eye thing is my screenplays and novel
I’m blessed with another chance I hope and although I’ll never stop writing especially here – it can’t be like old times I’m afraid
Need to stay away from computers and tv as much as I possibly can…
Will never forget the support I had when I really needed it – but it’s been always there – always.
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Balagi, MG, ASH, Costas and too many others to name …. thank you. You restore my belief in the “vast majority of our real fans”……. as for the f*cker Mattbw7 .. he simply does not trust SAF. For gooness sakes I know City fans who speak more highly of the great man and his integrity than that little shit does.
While he’s trying to tellus to “read between the lines, implying that Fergie’s really just pretending to support The Glazers for personal gain … I’d rather just read the following lines and feel proud of the fact that I have never doubted the integrity of Alex Ferguson one minute of the last 25+ years
“I’VE SPENT 25 YEARS OF MY LIFE PUSHING THIS CLUB FORWARD AND NOT ONLY COULD I NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THOSE FANS …. I DO IT FOR THEM”
@Balaji
That’s the thing. If the IPO’s structure talks about key personnel getting a cut, why is it considered absurd that fans would wonder if Sir Alex is part of that? Mind you, I am not defending anyone that called him names. Without proof no less. But for me it’s a valid question. And I know that Fergie couldn’t control such a move (probably), but imo it still doesn’t make it right. And I am glad that it didn’t happen because it would create a conflict of interest for him.
@Mike
Like I told Balaji, the wording in the IPO filing makes it easy for someone to wonder if Sir Alex is among those getting a cut. In my opinion anyway. Now if some people used that piece of information to suit their own agenda (and Andy Green looked like a twat for openly accusing Sir Alex on Sky news), that’s disgraceful. But there was also a lot of fans just wondering what the deal was and they needed an explanation. And I am glad SIr Alex did that. Because going by his statement, I can tell that he understood why these fans got confused.
MG – hi mate, and yes, you a writer!
Apologies for not having been in touch. Restricted fb usage – glad to hear you’re doing much better. All the best wishes for your recuperation going forward!
Costas, But as I said mate, you question David Gill or The Glazers for rewarding fans. It is not Sir Alex’s decision. He has no say in it. Even no the Glazers could say Sir Alex deserves a cut from the IPO and serve a portion to him. He will deny it of course. But if it is there, how can he? Again, it is not his decision. You (not you Costas) have no right to question him. You have an issue with Sir Alex making money, take it up with the Glazers and the under-writers at the investment banks involved in the IPO document. Not Sir Alex Ferguson.
All this talk of boycotting matches and sending letters to the Glazers wont do any good to manchester united as a whole. Think what you want but it will have a negative impact on the team morale and finances.
I still think that the glazers are trying to be there for the long term and due to the macro-economic conditions are finding it hard to generate enough fund for the club to compete with others. Lets hope the economy gets better soon and MANCHESTER UNITED has a good IPO. If it benefits glazers it will benefit us too in the long term.
The other thing is …isn’t sad to think that MUST and all their cohorts will HATE to read that statement from Fergie as much as we and the vast majority of real fans will have LOVED it.
ONE UNITED – In Fergie I Trust
and then Rio leaned over his shoulder and said ‘so there’
followed by ‘ner ner nuh-ner neerrr’
Me @ 18:41, It should be “for rewarding employees.” and “even now the Glazers…” Too much steam in the head leads to too much typos.
Joe717
“I still think that the glazers are trying to be there for the long term and due to the macro-economic conditions are finding it hard to generate enough fund for the club to compete with others.”
They could start by not taking half for themselves and using that!
Right so where were we all?
And each and everyone of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
@costas i completely and angrily disagree with you,am sure you are on your own on this.in as much as i look forward to your contributions and wonderful IQ,i will neva agree to not a single letter to what you just typed abt the boss and for what its worth he is earned the right to that blind loyalty you mentioned..as i said always love your post and will always do.just not post like that abt the boss.takia
“Put him in a body bag, Johnnie!!!”
-goon from the Karate Kid
Evening guys
When does the boys depart for european DHL tour?
Just can’t wait for the season to kick start
Evening once again!!!
Ooooooh and each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson
One more thing like so many startup companies do here in US (not sure elsewhere) they issue lot of shares to senior employees when launching an IPO. So when looked at in that context it makes sense for Sir Alex to be issued some shares. In fact he deserves them
@Cedars,
That’s SIR Alex Ferguson to you! Pilgrim!
I have stayed out of this as i did not want to get into an argument with a plastic supporter but I am gonna have my say now.
THE FACT THAT SIR ALEX HAS HAD TO COME OUT WITH THIS STATEMENT IS PATHETIC.
I am nearly ashamed to read this statement as i remember some of the bad days(started supporting united under atkinson) to were we are now only losing out to mega rich muppets from the council house on goal difference, its nothing short of miraculous.
To me modern day Manchester United is Sir Alex and Sir Alex is Manchester United They go hand in hand.
I dont want to ge into slating other fans as we live in a free world and a democracy they are all entitled to their opinion, but the parasites that call themselves the media nothing but scum lower than a snakes vagina they are ruining the game i love and i can see it everywhere and can anyone blame sir alex for banning them from pre-match speak outs If i was sir alex i would ban ALL of them.
I feel sir alex is finding it very difficult to leave old trafford cause he knows th position the club is in financially and he does not want to see the pixie looking troll bastards ruin what he has spent 25 years buiding it must be killing him..LUHG
Finally I will always remember something for the rest of my life. Being from Dublin I dont get to go over as much as i would but when i do i get there on a friday and come back on a sunday night.
so on the friday i always just take a stroll round the stadium just to suck it all in and get the juices flowing, but one friday about 4 years ago i was just finished my stroll and i came back out past where the ticket office is and i heard a beep and i looked over and i saw a Black Audi and all i heard was “Sonny boy can you move those cones for me” I was in shock when i realised it was sir alex and he even chatted to the 2 of us for a few minutes and made a joke about irish accents and wet knickers. they say you should never meet your heroes but i tell you this im glad i did
@Darren_Can
Read a lot of garbage from perceived fans of Man Utd in past few days… Some don’t even deserve Ferguson to be the manager.
@Darren_Can
These days, people demand too much without being grateful for what they have. Ferguson, fitted with a pacemaker, is way past retirement age!
@Darren_Can
Yet he’s been in the gym and conducted hard work before many people make their morning tea.
How many knew that Sir Alex was fitted with a pacemaker?
oh hell, now even I feel like doing it!
each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson!!
Cedars,
Sir Alex is the champion, a champion with morals and anything for United..
Red Man Walking – that happened ~10 years back. 2004 to be precise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3505118.stm
Thanks to all you fickle rabble-rousers who made this statement possible.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh and each one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/6534.php
“He has been nicknamed by football players the ‘hairdrier’. When he is angry with a player in the changing room at half time or after a match he gets up close and screams at them – the air that blows from his mouth onto the victim’s face feels as if it comes from a hairdrier. ”
@Mikekelly12
I agree that they must be putting all the money generated in the club. But all we can do is to speculate what they will do with that money. I hope we generate more than the $300M that they are expecting so that it can be used towards the club.
And by arguing among ourselves about this IPO we will only decrease the attractiveness of Manchester United to potential investors. Lets make this a success. It is to our benefit.
each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson!!
get in!!
Whoooooooooo the fuck are Man Utd, who the fuck are Man Utd, who the fuck are Man Utd when the RED go marching ON ON ON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kdSWFpAJs
by the RED WORLD ARMY..
get in..
I respect sir alex, yeah he’s the boss
And the fact that he nearly retired but U-turned for the supporters says much about him
He doesn’t earn a mega wage but always makes sure we stay on top of everyone.
Enough of this….
Let’s just support united
The glazers screw themselves.
UNITED 4LYF!!!
Brett1985:
“It’s a pity when those second rate fans fucked of to FC United they left so many clowns behind. Bunch of wankers.”
XOL:
You mean a large section of our away support that Sir Alex loves?
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The fact that our away support might be outstanding at the stadium does not preclude them from being criticised should they subscribe to the recent commentary provided by the Red Issue Fanzine.
I am fed up of the fact that prominent Anti-Glazer Campaigners continue to fabricate paper thin sob stories about ‘the best fans’ leaving the club and how real fans have been priced out. Cry me a river.
The last people we should listen to are those who extol the virtues of second rate traitors yet seemingly did not have the courage of their convictions to leave in protest themselves. By your own admission they are still here and apparently attending both home and away! There is no grey area here. It’s just straightforward bullshit.
I wonder when it is that people will admit that all anti glazer initiatives have been a monumental failure because the people who run them aren’t very clever.
Anti Glazer shit is dead in the water. Let’s talk about the football.
With regards to the speculation about what the glazers will do with that money – I had a thought.
Remember the equity infusion of 249.1 million pounds in 2010 that removed the entirety of the PIK loans? A lot of reports stated that the glazers had taken low-rate loans to put that money in. Saw another one recently – I think Andy Green had mentioned it on his blog in a recent post. Don’t remember exactly though.
Someone else also think that they’re going to refurbish part of that with this money? Just speculation, don’t have a clue as to what is exactly gonna happen. As I mentioned above, just a thought.
There’s a big difference between asking questions and spreading lies,there is a extreme group of fans who are hell bent on ruining the club at any cost
These people are not living in reality because the only thing that’ll make them happy is if their part of the decision making process,have a false sense of their own importance to Manchester United and the simple fact is if MUST didn’t exist and none of them ever watched a game again Utd wouldn’t miss a beat
I mean I understand loving SAF, but come on…
Loving Hayley McQueen is more appropriate right?
wayne, EXACTLY! These people. People like Matt, and others want the club to fail. Because then they could point out and say that they were right all along. You know what they’re afraid of most: It is this IPO turning out to be a success. Of United clearing a lot of the debt and of being a successful club having cleared a lot of the debt (Yes, I know we shouldn’t have had that in the first place but I cannot change history, I can only make sure our future is good.). Then they won’t be right. Then they will be wrong. They are truly afraid of that above anything else.
Sorry I went off topic…………Here I go again
Each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
Doing a Jimmy James here, got me United flag wrapped around my self, bouncing away and chanting United songs……..
UNITED UNITED UNITED
Cedars,
stick to the topic pal
each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson!!
Amos to Hull on loan :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18772920
Each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
Tell em Fergie
Now back to the top to read the post
One last thing. Couldn’t help but notice the first comment. STR never intimated that SAF stood to gain financially. That was down to the posters. Just saying.
That said,the glazers are still Shit
It’s unbelievable for SAF to have to come out with that, but i’m glad he did. Nip that shit straight in the bud. We owe this guy big time. What situation would we now be in had fergie originally retired? Fucked!! He was never going to tarnish his legacy for more of something he’ll never use. You wouldn’t destroy the legacy you leave to 100s of millions for the sake of leaving a slightly inflated one to few. I think it’s plain to see the Glazers have left Ferguson alone and at times even supported him, i.e Rooney and to be fair we have spent money, maybe not always where we wanted it spent, but we have spent and obviously not on the scale of City, Chelsea. It’s frustrating not being able to but it fucking grates on me that we can’t even seem to compete with Madrid and Barca. That’s because of the leeches!! They need to go and hopefully this valuation of sorts will be the beginning of the end. I’m concerned about what Sir Alex will have to leave to his successor, the division of fans is starting to show. We’re in a sticky situation indeed and striking the balance between being supportive fan a Glazer boycotting….. boycottist is fuckin hard. They have us by the nutsac and i fear we can only hope but we can never forget to ‘In Sir Alex we trust’.
I dont´believe he will gain financially on the IPO, but he should be worried about the loans and the drainage of cash that runs directly to the caravan-sites and other monkey buizz the Glazers care more about. Otherwise Sir Alex might go to uni and learn some economics.
Weeeeee are the pride of all Europe, the cock of North………
Right, back on topic
And each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson ……..
UNITED UNITED UNITED
@GIGGS12- 16:14,
Perfectly put sensible statement.
You don’t have to be anti-Ferguson to not agree with everything he says
Off topic,
Thanks to each and everyone of you for the birthday wishes! Felt really nice to get such warm greetings from fellow REDS! Thanks a lot Sandeep for remembering it and putting it on here!
On topic,
I don’t think I can write any better than what all sane people have done over here but seriously it makes me wonder what kind of world are we living in? Does 25 years of constant love, support, dedication, sweat for the club has no value in our short sighted eyes? Does giving you loads of moments to rejoice, giving you those wins where you thought that everything was done and dusted, giving this club unprecedented success, making this club into an absolute powerhouse and an unparalleled beast in the whole world, holds no value?
So, we have become that “smart”, “different” and “intelligent”, that we can call all sorts of names to a man who has served the club with great honesty and has kept the traditions of Sir Matt intact! Just think for a moment, where the fuck would we be without this man? Sven Goran Erikkson was it right who was going to replace him? Can you even imagine how difficult and a next to impossible task it is going to be to get someone even remotely close to him in that dugout?
Yes, people will still be probably “comfortable” with the thought of having a narcisst Mourinho or the more “famous” Guardiola and think “Okay, they’ll be able to soak up the pressure and take us forward!” But take it from me, they might bring the club instant success. but there is no chance they are going to replicate what this great man has achieve because it’s simple, it cannot be done again.
So now we come to the original question again. Do you still feel you have the right to call this man anything you want to and thinking that it’s okay to do so, just because you want to be seen as a “different” and a “real” fan? Tell me, is it really worth it? What do we want? Do we ant this man to give up his seat, call Glazers as leeches, get sacked and then let them bring in an egoistic bugger who would surely think that it is Manchester United who “deserve” ‘him’ and not feeling the other way round in anyway whatsoever?
We sometimes don’t realize that how spoilt we have become during this dominant period as fans of this wonderful institution. I am fairly young compared to some of you people who have had the privilege of supporting this club and seeing it develop into what it is now, but even I can see that how it must’ve felt seeing those bloddy rat munching scousers eat up trophy after trophy and blabbering about it. So, just think for a moment, as it stands, we are much better placed than those mercenary bitters across the road, those fucked up Chelshits with a fluked CL and those North London darlings of the world! So surely, we must be doing something right, or let’s put it SIR ALEX would be doing something right all these 25 years?
I don’t deny the fact that we don’t have challenges, of course we have, of course Sir Alex has made mistakes over time, but who the fuck doesn’t? If we see within ourselves and be honest, we would find that we are not even a percent of how good the great man has been with the club. So, let’s show him some fucking RESPECT, let’s trust his judgement on club related matters and B.E.L.I.E.V.E in this club and the man himself!
I feel ridiculous seeing some of the responses from fellow REDS which brings their very integrity of being a RED into question! I am for one moment even not saying that we should not question the great man, but surely we are that sensible to see some perspective and put some sensible thoughts across rather than calling him a cunt, a greedy man and questioning his job integrity!
I hope all this nonsense is done and dusted now and surely we will smash those bitters in the coming season and get the trophy back! Get behind the lads and if we feel we owe him an apology, let’s do it, anyway which we see as a proper way, be it turning into 100′s or 1000′s of chest thumping Jimmy James or be it writing a letter to him!
B.E.L.I.E.V.E in the team, B.E.L.I.E.V.E in the gaffer and B.E.L.I.E.V.E that we will be best placed in the coming years to continue with the traditions & values of this great great club and I am absolutely sure we will see a lot of success as well inspite of knowing that we might struggle initially to have success after Sir Alex calls it a day! Let’s enjoy the legacy rather than questioning it, and we will find that’s a better way to go about things rather than mere expletives! Nothing more to say fellas!
I reiterate B.E.L.I.E.V.E.!
Now please fellow United fans all over the world! Lets not try to find people within the club to blame! We all would like the Glazers to fuck off, but it should never ever come in the way of our support of the team!
Remember fellow red deils, our commercial success is sought after by all our competitors, and would probalby not be possible without owners chasing profit. That said, owners of our beloved club would not even start to imagine the commercial benefit of uniteing the club and fans, making us one unity which would shake the ground below our team around the world!
BELIEVE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCCeqlf7tOs&feature=relmfu
Cedars – just cos you’ve got the flag wrapped around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmpRbun1ss
Atin.
Well that guarantees they won’t be using the money as Andy Green thinks.he’s got fuckall right to date.
Atin
Yeah fucking epic, I have that one on my favs mate………Seriously in United mode now, got various videos of chants rocking away and I am fucking bouncing
UNITED UNITED UNITED
Prasan,
belting post pal,
i m sure Cedars will be having an orgasm by now, oh wait – he is ready swap something for Chico, sorry prasan
##
Atin,
King Eric in that video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=RNpg7EVTwSc&NR=1
This is the striker/ world-class player I’d want in our team now!
Sandy – no clue man!
Cedars – Dude, i’m going crazy on youtube right now! Just hope I’m not banned ala ZIbbie
Cheers Atin,
Good night reds,
each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=z9lv2wPCDX4&NR=1
der der der der der der der racist bastard!
epic!
Atin
Do not worry about being banned mate, I will rape shit to get you back……
By the way did you know Sir Alex was an out of this world striker? Look up his stats
@ Sandeep
Thanks mate. Good night..and yes, each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson loves Alex Ferguson!
By the way, that racist bastard chant was created by our very own poster Giggs12 away at Fulham
Bret1985
Brilliant post.
You stand by your team through thick and thin. Good days and bad days, rain or shine. Good luck to those who chose FC Utd But I’m Man Utd born and bred and very proud.
The reason why I’ve never trusted MUST and never gone along on the Green and Gold bandwagon.
Cedars
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
Each and every one of us,
Loves Alex Ferguson
Loves Alex Ferguson
Loves Alex Ferguson
And each and every one of us
Loves Alex Ferguson
Loves Alex Ferguson
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
We all hate leeds scum
Evening me Jimmy James
And weeeee alllllllllll hate leeds scum indeed
Der der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der Der racist Bastard
Cedars: haha – Thanks mate! and yeah, have read quite a lot on his being a striker. Good thing he quit early..!
And haven’t we got some celebrities on here – James21 & Giggs12!
My second visit to elland rd, I was chased down the road with folk carrying knives and cricket bats, would have held my own but there were over 40 of them fuckers
Roll on Everton fuck me how shit is summer with no sun, no United, anr wank internationals
Can’t believe what just happened. What a legendary achievement. Downing scored a goal.
What, you thought I was talking about Pheps’ 20th medal?
I’m usually pretty wordy but in this instance all I can write is
YOU’LL MISS HIM WHEN HE’S GONE.
Cedars
Are you sure they didn’t have shepherds crooks and sheep dogs.
Baaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaa Cedars have you any wool.
Oh Elland road is full of sheep
Oh Elland road is full of sheep
its full of sheep sheep and more sheep
Oh Elland road is full of sheep.
@ Cedars
Evening my friend. leeds is shit because they are shit due to being a shit club with shit fans who mix scum with shit and shit with scum but still that doesn’t change the fact that they’re still shit along with the scum so if they feel they can be any better than being shit then let them come out with scum as bowels and shit as their very thoughts! We all hate leeds scum, we all hate leeds scum!
@ Costas
The fucker scored? Does that mean he got a new WAG? But, this had to happen, after all he deserves to be more legendary than a nobody like Phelps!
Jimmy James
Was an awful experience mate……..Would have smacked a few of the bastards, but there were too many…..I eventually made it to a post office where there were a couple of coppers so the fuckers backed off
His name is Alex Ferguson,
He knocked them off their perch, He knocked them of their perch, He knocked them off their perch,
His name is Alex Ferguson,
He knocked them off their peeerrcchh!
What bothers me immensely about this is if Sir Alex was to benefit directly from the IPO, what the hell would be wrong with that? For the last 25 years, he has defined Manchester United next to by himself. I know he praised the fans in this statement, but don’t forget there has been more than one occasion when a significant segment of fans wanted him to be given the boot.
With the IPO, the Glazers are effectively selling a chunk of Manchester United, at a way overvalued price. In pretty much EVERY IPO, top executives and employees stand to benefit from the cash raised from an IPO. If there’s one man whose efforts should be rewarded, it’s Sir Alex Ferguson. Even if he has been promised a massive cash bonus if we achieve success, then GREAT! ABSOLUTELY GREAT! That’s exactly what we need. If you win the champions league Sir Alex, you get a giant fat check with your name on it, who the bloody hell can argue with that? He’d only be getting a nice share of the enormous pile of cash a champs league win generates. Apparently, many fans want the club to be as financially reckless as Chelsea when it comes to paying for players (like £50 million for Torres) but have a problem with the manager getting more money?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the ONLY reason this IPO nonsense was even brought up was because a certain group of Manchester United fans wanted to put Fergie’s recent backing of the Glazers in a different context — one where Fergie was a big bad man lying for money. Fergie is ALREADY rich btw, the man is not short on cash. What he meant by leaving Old Trafford long ago is he would have been paid an astonishing amount of money by other clubs. How much money do you think Roman Abramovich would have given him to jump ship, for example? Not to mention that Fergie is surrounded by the wealthy. He could probably manage some godforsaken team in the United Arab Emirates or Qatar and make millions without any of the pressure associated with the job he currently has.
Hate on the Glazers all you want guys – as Fergie said everyone has the right to protest if they feel the need to – but don’t try to rope in the linchpin of Manchester United, the absolute boss, THE reason for United’s Premier League domination and two of our three European Cup successes.
And please, spare me the “nobody is bigger than the club” line. Manchester United has great history, but is is not automatically super-duper-awesome, it is the people involved who make it what it is. The club is nothing without loyal, hard working servants, including fans, and while we all respect its history, we should never allow its history appear to be brighter than its future.
Redmanwalking
Love that tune mate
Prasan
Good evening mate and happy birthday again! Yeah, regarding leeds any proper RED who knows their history should hate them with a passion…… Munich chanting sheep shagging cunts
Wasn’t gonna post today, but fuck it!
Matt – Did you read that last part mate? He does it for you! What a cunt he is….
Laters Reds! 19
Dela
I’m sorry mate I absolutely Love sir Alex Ferguson but he did not define Manchester United. Sir Matt Busby kept the club alive after 58 and within ten years rebut it to become European Champions.
Sir Alex is the greatest but Sir Matt defined us.
@ Cedars
Thanks again mate!
Dropped you a mail sometime back, do check it out! So it seems our chest thumping Jimmy James and Giggsy are here. The volume is going to increase in the house then!
UNITED! UNITED! UNITED! UNITED! UNITED! UNITED!
Hi reds i was on the verge of tear when read the sir alex comments shame on us we should hang our heads in shame @Balaji
A nice read man.
I am very happy that many of Indian brothers are here i know they are here from a long time.I came across RoM a year a ago since then i am regular on RoM. But i have hardly posted. You all guys are great specially Balaji,Sandeep,Cedars,Costas,Giggs and Mike
Giggs Giggs will tear you apart again
Giggs12
Haha! Celebrating Sir Alex all day long! I love ‘Walking in Fergie Wonderland’. Don’t know the lyrics though. Care to enlighten me?
Mancini are you listening,
You’d better keep our trophy glistening;
‘Coz we’ll be back in May, to take it away,
walking in a Fergie Wonderland!
We do what we want
We do what we want
We’re Man United
We do what we want!
Cheers ed! That’s the one
Weeeeee are the pride of all Europe
The cock of the North
We are just one of those teams,
That you see now and then;
We often score six,
But we seldom score ten,
“We beat ‘em at home,
And we beat and we beat ‘em away,
We kill any b*stards,
That get in our way.
We are the pride of all Europe,
The cock of the North,
We hate the Scousers, the
Cockneys of course;
We are United,
Without any doubt,
We are the Manchester boys.”
We hate the scousers and cockneys of course AND leeds
If you are from Manchester, your sure to be a blue
Salford, Ancoats, moston, collyhurst too
If you believe that your sure to be a fool
Coz in this town of Manchester, Man United rule
Tra la la la we all hate city……….
We are the Manchester boys tla tra la la la…….Just a bunch of bouncing Busby Babes
UNITED UNITED UNITED
From the banks of the River Irwell,
To the shores of Sicily,
We will fight, fight, fight, for United,
‘Till we win the Football League,
To hell with Liverpool, To hell with Man City – (they’re sh*t!)
We will fight, fight, fight, for United,
‘Till we win the Football League.
Haha..loving the chants but will have to go to bed now. Keep going lads, keep it RED and keep it UNITED!
Good night all!
@Giggs12Gerrard0 —-> Read what I wrote man…
” For the last 25 years, he has defined Manchester United next to by himself.”
The reference to “25 years” was intentional for the very reason you specified. I’m well aware of Untied’s history. I’ve been a fan my entire life mate.
UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED…
And on that note, am off to bed! Gnite all. Gnite RoM.
In Fergie I Trust!
We need a follow up to the green and gold campaign.
Here’s my proposal, let’s get tough, the time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like but I propose we hit it hard and hit it fast with a major and I mean major leaflet campaign.
Who’s with me?
Is it the 20th yet?
Matchday 1 starting XI
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Rio Evra
Valencia Scholes Carrick Nani
Rooney
Welbeck
Subs: LIndegaard, Jones, Giggs, Young, Cleverley, Kagawa, Chicharito
Get fucking in!!
Dela
Apologies if I misread your post mate
Sheesh. Talk of high horses. I fully understand emotions have ran high and the snowball effect of the IPO and transfer merry go round and “dig” at the “fans” ,all that added up and its recipe for disaster.
And thats why the great Scot has come up with this statement. It’d be very easy for facts to be twisted- especially financial one and most definitely especially our. I respect him even more for coming out with this because it shows he still very much got the fans and the club at heart.
Matters of the heart are always complicated and its evident with SAF and United. Tell you what though,I wouldn’t want anyone else within a mile of OT handling the current difficulties we’re facing
And where the Fuck is King Eric.
Brett
Can’t we just get flags with SAF on, with
‘IN FERGIE WE TRUST, FUCK M.U.S.T’ written on them.
All together now………….
Night Cedars
James:
I like it. Less controversial than my plan to get a jersey with Glazer 1 on the back.
Piss off Cedars.
@Giggs12 — That’s alright
Not a Glazer lover I’m. fully certain M.U.S.T have been spewing this shit about SAF.
Well then, I guess the green and gold scarves will have a use after all.
I know u cowards heard of us u probably want to murder us
ya hustlers to the third degree
we will cut u like its surgery United United United
Red folks
I read Rom everyday and have been doing this for years now but occassionaly make comments but I have this to say:
Fergie is the greatest manager of all time, I love him and have the greatest of respect for him and I do appreciate the great work he’s done for this club.
But I also believe supporters who raise legitimate questions about the way the club is been run should not be seen as disrespectful.
Its different to question a man’s decision from insulting a man for his actions or inactions.
To question Fergie is not an insult and doesn’t make those who do not “real” than those who do.
What i think is extremely disrespectful is the financial aspect but the questions about the ownership of the club imho is legitimate.
Sentimentality should be absent from this, we all want the best for the club.
Brett
I’m fully certain M.U.S.T have been spewing this shit about SAF.
Not a Glazer lover then
That is how it should have read.
Red is my colour and always will be.
Tannor
Nobody said the genuine concerns that fans have of the ownership of the club are wrong. But fans who call SAF a Cunt and keep repeating it are Scumbags.
oops upside you head i said oops upside your head
oops upside you head i said oops upside your head
oops upside you head i said oops upside your head
tra-la la-la
in the final straight Fergie!!!! dont do a United and fuck it up now
Reading the response from Sir Alex gave me the shivers, the kind of goose bumps that only come from deep inside. Legend of a man and what he has done for this club is none other than outstanding. In Sir Alex I trust………
What do you call a girl in Livepool wearing a full white tracksuit?
The bride.
I think we should all be shitting ourselves to be honest, is the empire about to fall. Rodgers has got Downing to score.
Time to support SAF and Manchester United
What do you call a Scouser in a suit?
The accused.
ooh Goat ye bastard …just spilt me fucking brew laughing…..
What do you call a Scouser in a black shell suit?
The undertaker.
TonyBee
serves you right drinking alone, Ill just get one meself, cheers, your health
the only way to make an impact and a possible change with the owners is to protest. just like we’ve all seen before, get out the green and gold scarves, sing louder than ever, and support the team while doing so. the players and management have not an ounce of say when it comes down to who owns the club and where they put their debts. at the end of the day i think it’s safe to say we all love UNITED and SAF more than we hate the glazers, so keep that in mind and lets rally behind the boys for no.20 and on the way lets make sure the glazers know we are not happy with THEM. boycotting home matches is a ridiculous idea and would have hugely negative effects on the squad and their performance. we need to do the opposite, protest in numbers, from the stands, before and after matches. during the match it should be fairly easy to forget about the glazers while channeling all your energy in praising the team and management.
What’s red and white and climbs down your chimney on Christmas Eve?
A Scouser in his Liverpool shirt.
Green and gold?
Oh no United is and will always be RED in it’s core and foundation.
Time to go
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What am I?
Any where on the planet there’s one within 3 meters of a human.
We sneak about in the half light stealing scraps to feed our young.
We breed at an alarming rate producing many generations in a few years.
We communicate using a collection on high pitched unitelligble squeaks and squeals.
We have a pale complexion with features similar to those of the common brown rat.
I am of course ……a scouser.
Dear Sir Alex,
Thank you for everything. We never doubted you.
Well done for allaying the obvious fears of a minority of supporters that were being led astray by selfish troublemakers.
Please forgive the insulting and contemptuously arrogant behavior of the occasional idiot.
Enjoy work Sir, and all the best for the season. Good luck and God bless.
Yours faithfully,
Yet another very happy Manchester United supporter
nighty night Holmes
A scouse girl goes to the local council to claim benefit.
“How many children do you have?” asked the benefit officer.
“I have ten kids.” replied the scouse woman.
“Ten?” said the benefit officer, “That’s a lot! What are their names?”
“Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne and Wayne.” replied the scouse girl.
“Ummm, do you not get confused with them all having the same name?” asked the benefit officer.
“Nahhh,” replied the scouser, “it’s great because if they are out in the street playing I only have to say ‘Wayne’ once and they all come in!”
“What if you want to speak to one of them individually?” asked the benefit officer.
“Oh that’s easy,” replied the scouse girl, “I just use their last names!”
What do you call a scouser in a limo?
The deceased !!
What do you say to a scouser in a uniform?
“Big Mac and fries please!”
@MG
the green and gold has become pretty well established as a method of protest against the glazers. bring your RED scarf for the 90 mins and you g&g for pre and post match. if we want something to happen, we need to make it public and breathe fire down the glazers spines.
read on a Scouse mag…..
As a proud Scouser, it makes me angry when I hear people saying our girls are having sex when they’re about 12.
My daughter is 14 and I’m lucky to get a wank off the frigid bitch.
One night in a local Liverpool pub, a huge scouser was sitting at the bar slowly getting pissed. He was 6 feet 8 inches tall and weighed at least 400 pounds.
A little later a short, skinny, obviously gay man walks in and sits next to the huge guy. After having a few drinks the gay man sidled over to the huge scouser and whispered in his ear, “Do you want a blow job?”
At this, the giant Merseysider jumped off his chair, punched the guy in the face breaking his nose, grabbed him by the feet and threw him out into the car park where he finished him off with bone crunching kicks to the head. He then left the faggot laying on the floor and went back into the bar.
Amazed, the bartender brought the huge scouser a beer and said, “I have never seen you like that before. You are normally such a gentle man. Just what did he say to you anyway?”
“I’m not sure,” replied the scouser, “It was something about a job!”
When Coca Cola have dropped Wayne Rooney from their advertising campaign.
That made him the only fucking scouser not selling coke.
I appologise tongue in cheek at this next joke. For all those that care mmmmmmm yeah get a life.
What’s the difference between a cow and a tragedy?
A scouser wouldn’t know how to milk a cow.
I got a Scouser bird back to my place last night and did what comes naturally…
I kept one eye on my wallet while I was shagging her.
Great Britain’s goalkeeper, Karen Bardsley can be forgiven for casting an eye towards what is likely to happen if the hosts beat Canada in the quarter-final at Coventry on Friday.
Born in Santa Monica to parents who hail from Manchester and have supported Manchester United all their lives, the prospect of facing the United States, at Old Trafford, sends a tingle down her spine. “To set foot on Old Trafford would be beyond a dream come true,” she said.
“My parents moved to America about 30 years ago but my family is all from Manchester and they still live in the Stockport area. We all support United. My grandad used to tell me all about it. I have been to matches and done the tour. It would be simply incredible to get there as a player.”
http://www.football.co.uk/team_gb/old_trafford_dream_fires_bardsley_rss3156562.shtml
What’s the difference between a dead scouser on the side of the road and a dead skunk?
The skunk has skid marks in front of it.
What do you call a Scouser on the dole?
Scouse
‘Manchester United sent trusted scout Martin Ferguson to watch Celtic’s Wanyama in Champions League action last night tall, (Victor Wanyama is a 22-year-old tall, powerful and aggressive midfielder who can also play in defense)’
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/907192-manchester-united-make-scouting-check-on-celtics-victor-wanyama
Q. What do you call a scouser with his hands in his own pocket??
A…..Cold.
Q…..Whats the difference between Batman & Scousers??
A…..Batman can go out without Robin
Despite David Gills claims that Manchester United have 490 million worldwide fans, Liverpool have done even better.
26 million people in England support Liverpool.
They are the tax payers.
Scouse is a particularly nasty liverpudlian concoction, consisting mainly of rat.
Competition is fierce among the local bin-dippers, so speed is of the essence when chasing a rat or when gulping down one’s scouse before it is stolen away. Downing one’s stewed rat apace is considered the hallmark of a true ‘scouser’
Stewrat Downing wins every fan-poll on LFC .com. Scousers see his name, drool and reach for their mouse.
A lot of comments, so apologies if this point has been made already. Excluding SAF from the equity incentive plan would be the most questionable business decision yet from the Glazers. Awards from this plan will generally (1) primarily dilute the Glazers economic percentage ownership (ignoring the whole voting thing, which I think is overblown) and (2) give the award recipient a piece of the increase in value in the company’s stock from the date of grant. Who on earth deserves such an award more than SAF, and who on earth is better able to generate stockholder value (and thus would be the most logical recipient from the owners’ perspective)?
If SAFdoes not ever receive any of these equity awards, then it likely will be because of the fan/press uproar or perhaps due to the Glazers recognizing that SAF could not possibly be any more motivated to increase the value of the club.
P.S. I don’t understand fans complaining that the IPO shares will not receive dividends – I thought the whole idea was to keep money in the club (which dividends would undercut just like interest on the debt (but with fewer tax benefits for the company, at least in the US)).
I expect that rvp will join Chelsea. They need a striker (and a right back)
I wonder which left back we will get … there must be someone on the cards.
Xol – 18:07 – Spot on.
Nothing wrong with paying less than a tenner, standing for the whole match with your mates, enjoying a great atmosphere both home and away and having the satisfaction knowing you’re not paying towards a fuckin knome’s debt.
Two Uniteds but the soul is one,
as the Busby Babes carry on!!
Rai – spot on. The idea that FC United fans are “second rate” is simply risible. Nuff said.
Sir Alex has never been greedy. Take Rock of Gibraltar for instance.
Don’t mind FC United. Some called them traitors. I wouldn’t go that far, but there’s only one United for me. Remember Reds? Love Fergie, Love United!
Rai – You beauty. The Red issue questionnaire and press hunt re Sir Alex getting money is being mistakenly attributed to MUST. There was a tweet from must saying they’re not talking about it because they want the attention on the IPO, which they believe could be good (?) because they hope it’s the start of the Glazer’s exit. Also it should be clarified that IMUSA are not MUST.
Nani to Real Madrid reports. One of the better performers in the Euros, I thought.
Nice read, no one above questioning, to question a great servant of 25 in a maniacal, militias a self serving manor to push your agenda of ignorance and fear FUCK OFF YOU BIG JUICE STD INFESTED, PUSS DIPPING DOG PEANUT BUTTER LICK-EN CUNTS!!!!!!!!!
MATT fuck off you fear monger!!!!
Honestly, the only person who I don’t mind getting a cut, is Sir Alex. Yes that nobody is bigger than the club, but he is someone who made the club. For those thinking United is also what made Sir Alex famous, think again, he did wonders at Aberdeen, who is to say he could not do it at, say, City? So be glad of what we have.
Lastly, my opinion of MUST, is still the same, they are probably pissed that they are not in the position of the Glazers right now to receive the cuts. I don’t see the need to listen to anyone who tries to throw a spanner between the club and fans. There are ways of freeing us up, by taking on Fifa & Uefa and going against such club ownership methods. What they are doing right now is the easy way out, and makes them look good.
Oh they lied to me, oh all the money they make is not put back into the club, oh they work hard double the value of the club, no employee bonus?????????????
Oh they lied to me, oh all the money they make is not put back into the club, oh they work hard double the value of the club, no employee bonus?????????????
Oh they lied to me, oh all the money they make is not put back into the club, oh they work hard double the value of the club, no employee bonus????????????? GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE 60′S SO SICK OF THE SAME DRIBBLE. SO GLAD I’M BUSY NOW. COME ON AUGUST 20TH!!!!!!!!!! If I had that world view my mates would bitch slap my ass, till I bleed from my ass. simple as.
Now the the over articulated regurgitation over elaboration of a bygone era. Oh the way we were…. misty water colored memories of the way we were……….
Babs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NqBWLeP9f4&feature=related
Brett/Keane86 – I take genuine exception to your comments on FC. If you don’t want anything to do with them that’s fine, you won’t be missed. Hope you enjoy paying £40+ for a ticket and getting told to “sit down” or “shhhh” when you sing. I HATE the fact that OT is full of people that sit there and EXPECT to be entertained for 90 minutes whilst offering the players nothing back. Little pockets of fans are great but when the stadium is populated with those who come the sample/experience the atmosphere…the atmosphere becomes lost.
On topic. Completely agree with Giggs12 and those sharing his views. Everyone should be able to question things if they see something they don’t like. What type of world would we live in if certain people were beyond questioning? Are we not allowed to say Bebe was a waste of money? Are we not allowed to wonder why the “Worlds Richest Club” can’t afford to compete financially with other clubs? Are we not allowed to question as to why long standing season tickets holders don’t get discounts? Are we not allowed to ask questions of owners why know FUCK ALL about football and FUCK ALL about United yet BORROWED FUCKIN MONEY to buy us???? All our history and heritage in the hands of that fuckin knome…using us to pay back interest repayments. Makes me sick to the stomach.
SAF didn’t need to do this….he must feel pretty insulted to do so.
My problem with SAF is his definition of Real Fans…thats all, his quote suggested then only a minority of real fans have a concern about the ownership and the rest are happy as larry about it which I find delusional when any fan with a emotional tie with the club should care about its health.
Anyways, I thought the guys that brought up the SAF-gaining from IPO was guys just looking to put their claws into a hard a subject (IMPOSSIBLE).
Can anyone remind me
How exactly does SAF being paid extra affect the fans?
Does it make him a greedy person for being paid a bonus…. something most employees get once in a while.
Pappi hows the burned but,
did it peel?
I have a dark completion, never had a sun burn, until a last second trip to Cancun, shit that hurts, no wonder people bitch about it.
According to the mail, Real would like to pay £19m for Nani and we’d like to pay £30m for Moura.
I feel sick to my stomach that SAF had to say this to the media (and certain ‘fans’). Wankers. 25 frigging years of work, most of it astonishingly astute, and this smear is the thanks? Co*ks**kers, all of them,.
Some of us, thankfully, appear to still have a brain.
xol – 19 to 25 million is a fair price for nani
PS – I think Zibbie’s on acid. (But it’s cute!)
I saw a documentary of the West Indies cricket team, it blew me away how racist in the 80′s the UK was. Fuck lord surf attitude, sub human treatment with such a casual air about it. So I guess getting over the world has picked the PL as the sport to follow and what we went through in the 80′s sport wise, with free agents. You just now experiencing. Some25 years after most American excepted it was big entertainment business. Get up with the times people.
Futile are your 2 mindsets, can’t change the past why get your blood boiling, and can’t turn back the clock. TICK TOCK ….
cOLORS WEEEEE,
Flash backs are free.
FITB – Haven’t really thought about a price much as I’d like him to stay, but I reckon I wouldn’t enjoy seeing him and Ronnie doing it for Real, especially because I think he’s on an upwards curve and could be just as effective in the Spanish league as his chum.
Rai a lot of working class fans in the US were priced out of season tickets in the 90′s a sad fact here. Prawn munching people who shhhhh imo should be slapped.
What has come to pass here, 4 guys go in on them, season tickets. Then some how have a game of chance to determine an order 1-4 the guy who is #1 picks the 1st game he wants the 2nd picks 2nd and so on till all games are taken…
I took 3 of my nephews to a Cub game in Chicago, tickets, food, hats, parking, beer for me soda for them. Almost $400 , fuck.
The gas and hotel 3 meals made it $700
Fuck Babs Gladys Knight and the Pips no comparison
Classic Motown and Rock best era of music ever
There’s been a typo in the IPO (Great Song title?), “personnel getting a cut” should read, “personnel getting cut”
For Wayne, making a shout out to a love from the time he was young.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlg2svEAh-w
@XOLFreudian type O’s..
xol, we have a thing in common, I’m a XXXLT
Wayne you see my post late night in response to the late 70′s and early 80′s,. My mates and me would have traveled and been arrested.
Lol Zibbie I’m right out of the Big Chill mate one of my fav movies
Costner was the stiff!
Evening dear Reds….most of you, probably having red dreams already.
@Rai – on fucking point mate. well said. asking questions that, not only, are reasonable but also fair, is part of being smart and human. fuck this white sheep do-as-you-told shit. this whole IPO thing smelled bad from the beginning. rotten to say the least. im 33 right now, but i’ve been following united for only the past 12-13 years, and even though i’ve chosen to keep to myself on this matter simply because i don’t have enough information to make an opinionated and informed statement. however, i would never question or understate the concern of those born-red fans like giggs12, james21, mike, KE, etc have in this matter.
when it comes to sir alex, i trust him….and most here, including StR should too. His “real fan” comments are being put out of context and misunderstood. in my opinion it was a simple case of poor choice of words on his part. not typical of him, but it’s not the first time it has happened (“typical germans”). if you want to know where his loyalty really lies, just read his response above. that’s a man that cares about his fans, the club and the legacy he has built. how long did it take him to make this announcement? if he was just filling up his pockets like some people are suggesting, why would he need to make this statement in the first place?
I saw the Big Chill in downtown Iowa City with my collage lady. … I was to immature to except her proposal. I would have been a happy man if I said yes……
If SAF wanted to fill his pockets he would be at Chelski, shity, psg…………….. wow we .
Yes Costner’s first big role lol made up for it in Sliverado
I am totally in the dark about the guys who left to make there own club. As per the norm, 310 is spot in. KE and the like have taught me on anything I have asked. iT HAS made me a better new be fan. Sure I think we need more this summer. If sept 1st comes or when SAF says he is done with the summer business, GO TEAM GET 20!!!!!!
Silverado!!!! Great cocky charter…. all I did was kiss a girl.
Kevin Klein scored on of my favorite all time ladies. Febe Kates . In fast time at ridgemont high, the Judd’s spank seen!LOL. I spanked to her for months after the red bikini scene.
‘Behind the windows of Manchester there is an insane love of football, of celebration’ – Eric Cantona
Sliverado is a classic
Zibbie didn’t know it costs THAT much just to catch a baseball game… 2 games and you’d have enough to fly to OT and back to catch United in action!
posted earlier but apparenlty it won’t go through. anyone else having the same problem?
Zibbie – not peeled mate…just brown
looks spectacular 
hmm maybe it was a temp thing. seems to be working fine now.
Anyways, what i was trying to say before is that i hope this puts an end to all the anti SAF chants that had been going through ROM. Frankly it was disgusting and in very VERY poor taste to be cursing at a man who has given the better part of his adult life to this club and has led it to unmatched heights, making us one of the dominant forces in not only England, nor Europe, not even in football, but in sports all around the world. Tell me a corner of the world where Manchester United, Man Utd, or even MANU as some people say it (still pisses me off tbh but if someone means well then so be it), I dare ya!
Apologies up front for posting when pissed. Sorry I haven’t had time to look at all 300 + posts on this subject, and I am sure that many will already have said what I’m trying to say much better than me. I would just like to say that I feel so embarrassed that Sir Alex has felt the need to come out with this statement. To many on here I would be considered a plastic fan as I don’t live in Manchester and only
Wow. What a thread. Proud to be a fan.
Also just rewatched Layer Cake. 5 mins of Siena Miller at the top of her game.
Bring on Everton.
Shit, fucking monkey thumbs. Told you I was posting when pissed. Was going to say that as I rarely get the chance to get to old Trafford and will be labeled as a day tripper by TOP reds my views will count for little. However I feel moved to say that the attacks on Sir Alex by some on here have left me totally fucking bewildered. Nobody’s perfect, but to me personally this man has my complete gratitude. Having supported United
under the Doc, Dexton, Big Ron, and the
great man himself I will never question the
man over anything he says or does. I know
this doesnt fit in with some on here but
that’s just me. Fergie loyalist forever.
just me. The man has my total loyalty and I won’t ever
Off topic, ala InZibbie
but great fucking news
OUR CAPTAIN IS BACK!
http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour2012Teaser/Tour2012News/2012/Aug/back-four-named-for-manchester-united-europe-tour-2012.aspx
I hope we are not risking his return by bringing him in too early, but fuck, it’s gonna be great to see him again on the pitch
Oh for fucks sake, I give up. To late too pissed, can’t control this bastard phone. Good night ROM.
YY I have fractured vertebra can not fly , If I hit bad turbulence it could undo the Dr’s work and more problems that make it dangerous. I am on the repair and should be able to fly in the SPRING AND I’M THERE!!
OR A BOAT!!! 4 GOOD TICKETS, 6 beers, 9 sodas 8 hot dogs, 3 hats, 4 ice creams, $ 150 hotel 3 meals for 4, 380 miles at 15 mpg , munchies and soda pop for 4. Fucking 8 hot dogs $40!!! etc. it adds up fast.
310 Pippo Inzibbie, for I was born off topic. I love that one
RED neck that was just fine, fuck a level of anger at every step. Day tripper !!! Love that one. For I have tripped during the day, my favorite day trip is riding roller coasters.
Fuck 2 dudes here could go at it for 78 posts both 70, have not missed a home game since they were 4, an away game since the could drive, they have made the same amount of pre-season tour games in Asia. One’s nephew was George Best, the other 2nd cousin to Duncan Edwards. so all seems good, a friend made. An = MUFC level of true Red. Then shit hits the fan, throats are cut when JimBob say’s he likes the Stafford end. Dude go at it. Just that way. Just 5 weeks ago a trusted regular loved by many here, respected by me, tore me a plastic cunt. You plastic Rooney loving Bera bashing PLASTIC CUNT! ZIBBIE. tp some I will always be that. So, no big thing. Not my hang up. Theirs , for their beloved MUFC is the worlds choice to follow. poor fucks making their club dam near bullet proof. The clubs value through the roof, most valuable club of any-kind on the planet, our support has generated a record revenue, a future so bright, you have to wear shades. Fucking humans wanna fuck you or fight with your ass.
God, there a lot of CRAP posted on here.
Perhaps the moderator could delete, or better still, not allow non-football topics on here.
The lizard brain some call it, either side, God or evolution. A product left from long, long ago? Or in the 2nd coming is removed so Lions lay with lambs. Existing in 2 states of mind, rest and digest. Calm in a rational way. Able to exchange information and converse in a civil way. Even to the point of being swayed. OR, FIGHT OR FLIGHT!!!!!! In this state of mind we only react, to what we know or taught. Strike out, or get the fuck OUT OF HEREEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Here people purposely put others on tilt, and have a good laugh.
To have a controlled furry is a is an advantage in sport. For when the red mist falls, Chanel that with your good or positive energy. Let it flow through you. Let it glow, and continue to grow. once in control of this force it becomes a lazer focus. To keep a quiet mind in a frantic situation is the victor, watch Messi. The Russian MMF heavy weight champ. He was calm, a focused force of bad ass. A dough boy looking thing. Power purpose new how to create angles. Was awesome in transition. He in the scramble had the ability to adjust in mid air. I know i had that as well. To take the fight to them when the are discombobulated, off balance. Bam victory is your. Many badder then me even back then. Any given day, that’s why we play.
brisbanefan says:
God, there a lot of CRAP posted on here.
Perhaps the moderator could delete, or better still, not allow non-football topics on here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WE LOVE YOU AS WELL, come comment a snide fucking thing then leave. hahahahaha If you read RoM many love what you just did. Fuck it is the off season, for fanatical MUFC followers!!! IE FAN!!!
Were bent, no action, sadistic fucks addicts in fucking withdrawal
LICK ME
EAT ME
CHEW ME
FOR I AM
A BIG BLACK JELLY BEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I read that Nani is worth just 19 millions. Ffs Clowns like di maria,Nasri,Henderson cost20- 25 millions. Even that goof benzema was paid 35 millions.Not to mention Carrol. Nani should not be sold. If we do sell him and especially to the cunts Madrid (I hate those fucking fake madrid) then we should ask somewhere between 27-30 millions. I never understand why we sell our players so cheap.
Prasan @19:48
Fucking awesome mate
Couldn’t have said it much better than how you just summed it up there buddy
Fucking CLASSIC
In FERGIE we all trust!!!
Morning devils
Its friday!!
wOW WHAT A CUNTING STATEMENT, ONLY ALLOW FOOTBALL POST AND CALLING FOR THE TEACHER!!!!!!!! LOWEST NARC LEVEL , THE TOOL OF FASCISTIC REGIMES. TELL ON YOUR NEIGHBOR!! WOW!!!!!!!!!! TATTLE TAIL !!!!!!!!!!!! STR PIPPO INZIBBIE IS OFF TOPIC TALKING TO HIMSELF, IN THE AMERICAN MID-WEST!!!!!! IT IS 5 AM WHERE 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO POST LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK OF, JUST THE KIND I WAS POSTING ABOUT! hehe not mad at all just saying, mirror mirror on the wall, who is the cuntiest of all brisbanefan
ready wrestle !!!!!!!
Ash that is silly stuff!
If Nani had one year left 24 mill, now 28-32. haha poor poor pool the fools!!!
Real wants it all, MUFC scouting is good, Sanchez looked good, he liked MUFC then a cash strapped Barca had him peg as well for the next year, so the only club he would bypass MUFC foe came calling. So fucking Perez wants to look smart and say the same of Lucas, and then get in Nani’s head. Fucker. He has 2 years he was redone 2 years back as well for a big raise , he clams to want to be the worlds best, I for one say start with 1st choice on your club team for big games. The worry about that! Nani has great skill, drops my jaw at times. I try not to bash what some call a way to inconstant game. His positives and moments of greatness for me out way the other by some way.
On Topic look at this face.
http://fourfourtwo.com/
Morning, lads.
Best piece of news I’ve read in some time:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/9447390/Aston-Villa-confirm-captain-Stiliyan-Petrov-in-remission-on-long-road-to-recovery.html
Aston Villa statement:
“It is with great delight that the club can confirm on behalf of our long-standing captain, Stiliyan Petrov, that Stan’s acute leukaemia is in remission. Stan would like to take this opportunity to express his deep gratitude to the medical staff who have looked after him so well since his condition was diagnosed just over four months ago.”
Morning all
Just watched Sir Alex’s press conference on telly…….The look on his face brought a tear to my face
Blame Fergie? FUCK OFF
Jeet
Terrific bit of news mate……..Delighted for the lad and his family
brisbanefan
What an utterly daft and pathetic post……….Just another one of them moaners….Ever had a laugh in your life? You come on here with a moan then piss off. If you had something to say about football then why not say it?
Daft fuck
i rarely post on these boards but i read them every time i get..first of all people who blame Sir Alex can fuck off..
to all who bang on about new signings every fucking season should get a grip..we have a great youth system and why the fuck we want a player who doesnt want be at old trafford, but only wants to get more money. all in all for fuck sake we only lost league last season on goal difference to the team who literally spent 100 of millions pounds to compete with us…
to all haters fuck off…its manchester united ….get behind the manager and the team.. on a side glaxers can still fuck off..hate those cunts but as sir alex said they never hinder in any signings …
TheGreatSirAlex
With such sentiments you should post more often!
Mornong all
Cedars you mad cunt how’s tricks you big Lebanese love moneky?
Where is Sandy I miss ny morning great from my Indian brother from another mother.
Jeet how are you pal?
What is this crap I am hearing about Real trying to buy Nani?? I hope it doesn’t happen. The lad is world class and I hope to God we don’t lose him. In other news, it’s good to hear that our Captain Vidic is in the squad for the friendlies. Good to have ya back Captain.
Giggs12
Me old mucker, how the fuck are you?
Utd4life
Do not mind if Nani pissed off to be honest, crying baby does not belong at our club! (God I am so nasty)
Giggs12
By the way that post of yours was infested with fucking typos………..You must be suffering from the Cedars bug! ha ha ha
Cedars. Hi Mate. He does act a bit petulant at times but I don’t want Real taking advantage of our hard work. We have nurtured him, groomed him to the player he is today so no, Real can keep their dirty paws of him. And as much as I love Young and Valencia, Nani has got more in the locker for me.
utd4life
as Fergie said, he wouldn’t sell real a virus!!
Also for those that are interested. Inter reportedly interested in Lucas Moura as well as i’m sure you already know, but i’ve been hearing from more and more sources that say a fee has been agreed with Inter with personal terms yet to be agreed.
Utd4life
Hi pal………..Joking aside, Nani is a talent no doubt, but he frustrates the fuck out of me….Selfish player and at times zero end product…..Personally I would not shed a tear if he did a Ronaldo and pissed off to Real……..May be I am a fool, but I seriously do enjoy watching Young on the pitch far more than I do Nani
@Giggs 12: all right, pal! Just got in touch with Jimmy James, courtesy the Lebanese sex starved gorilla. Who, incidentally, was taking his sheep for a “walk” last evening.Fuck me, just pissed myself at the vision of a gotilla walking his sheep!
Ok, guys – bad day at work looms large, so wont be able to post much, just a couple of observations I wanted to share from my musings last night!
1. Am I the only one who is seeing a hidden message in SAF’s statement? He’s saying “to be an effective manager, you need support from the top, and the glazers dont interfere”. Any mention of the debt, club finances, or any other praise for the glazers is conspicuous by absence. Could be that I am reading what I want to read, but just the wording and tone of the staement makes me feel that The Gaffer is sending out a message to the fans “I understand what’s wrong, but I know what I’m doing. Keep the faith!”. I actually wish The Gaffer did a repeat of his ambitiongate performance, and gave a rallying cry to all the fans just before the season. Pointing out that NOW is the time to get behind the team. Much needed IMO, and that would make us as close to unstoppable as possible, trust me.
2. Fuck all those who say “One word from Fergie and we’d drive the glazers out with sticks and shovels.” If you really have so much faith in Fergie, why don’t you just BELIEVE what he says? In reality, it’s not about their faith in Fergie, its about themselves. They love Fergie so long as he says what THEY want to hear. So long as he buys the players THEY want him to buy. It’s all about ME. If Fergie actually broke the peace, they would do sweetfuckall. Fake revolutionaries.
Cedars, take your ashleylove and shove it up a sheep, pal
I know you like them “young”, but fuck me, the shape of his head is sufficient to put me off, never mind the diving!
Forza Naniiiii !!!
Jeet
Fuck off mate…………Young’s right foot is worth ten of your Nani’s
Fucking gets me bouncing how he whips them crosses in
Cedars and Sandy, Reply to the mail you fuckers. (Jeet already did. BB FTW!
)
Love it when Cedars gets mad! He’s so cute – a big lovable teddy bear!
Diving? ha ha ha Is that seriously a comparison? Nani falls over and cries for fucks sake
Jeet
Love you too
Cedars goes bouncing when young whips it in…now, how am I supposed to interpret that?!!
jeet, The above article is a brilliant piece of writing and sums up the attitude of these people. They want United to fail. They want the IPO to be a failure. They want a few more trophyless seasons. All because, in the end, they could say, “I told yo so!”. If the IPO succeeds in clearing our debt and if the Glazers are in-charge of a debt free United (NOTE: That doesn’t make it right that they took from us.), then they won’t get that chance, will they? They would’ve proven to have been wrong all along. They can’t digest the fact that their judgment could be wrong (As was proved by Sir Alex’s pressie last night.)
Fuck me, I can’t even post a link to an ROM article on here. The post keeps disappearing.
therepublikofmancunia (dot) com/football-support-and-misplaced-schadenfreude/
Morning brothel dwellers
How the fuck are we? Fucked if I know what topic we’re on but think it’s something to do with apes and sheep but fucked if I’m gonna be talking about leeds fans!!
Jeet petit, the finest Indian ya ever gonna meet (and balaji) I agree pal, like I’ve said a million times recently, Sir Alex has the toughest job of all in keeping us happy as well as his bosses and the players. He’s gonna have to blow smoke up some people’s ass from time to time and a few White lies to keep everyone sweet. We all do it! I mentioned yesterday, when my lass said does my ass look big in this skirt… I said no, to keep things sweet but we all know it did! Had to keep things sweet, doesn’t make me any less of an amazing boyfriend!!!!
Cedars, Giggs12, Mike, jeet
Morning pals.. Thank God he has come out and laid all to rest
This man has done his utmost for this club and deserves our respect. Great man and his humility in the last sentence shows how big a person he is.
Jeet
Hahaha…
Now folks, all this talk of sheep and leeds is starting to do my head in, enough already…..
Mike
Morning you fuck!
young is shite – end of – embarrassing for england – should be building a team around nani
Young is shit? ha ha ha
Sweetest right foot in the PL
Morning reds. Been on the move and just arrived in Geneva last night buggered. Night rest did the trick.
I hope this statement does settle some nerves. Fans have a right to know and this settles things from fergies perspective on IPO funds. Lot has changed, but we can feel confident that Fergie is still behind the club and getting on with the job of building the team.
Morning you RED beauties around the world,
what the fuck is going?
Balaji,
you lazy bum, check your inbox..
##
M19ke,
wasup mate,
Looks like the sex starved gorilla has hit some jack pot…?
Red Devil
Morning mate, yeah I watched it on telly, brought a tear to me eye………..Some so called ‘fans’ are just ungrateful CUNTS
I wouldn’t say Young is shit but he is not world class either. Nani on the other hand is a game changer.
Young >>>>>>> Nani
Any day of the week……….I will take the whole world on with this argument
Guys, give the young vs nani thing a rest, particularly with Cedars….both of us were just taking the piss. We’ve covered this ground before and consensus opinion is that Nani >>>> Young, oops, I meant to say, that they are both fantastic United players! Seriously…
Morning, Mikey!
Without SAF I don’t know where Utd would have stand in the league rankings, but I keep faith in the man and I know he will do anything to make Utd the best club in the world till he’s alive and managing
Young is a poor mans Danny Wallace
Utd4life, I know we should give it a rest and all that, but this argument I find least convincing. How often does he change the game? Being a game-changer is one thing and actually doing it is another thing. Most often I find that his selfishness and unwillingness to share the ball in key areas leads to him changing the game against us. Truly, he hasn’t single-handedly changed a game in a long time. Yes, he can if he wants to but his petulance and selfishness more often than not keep him from doing it. That being said Young isn’t a game-changer either. He is a great winger who has two solid feet. However, Valencia for all the people talking about him being one-dimensional is a game-changer because of how focused he is. That is a person deserving of the No. 7 jersey.
2 weeks to go, come on Fergie lets get Baines wrapped up and were looking decent!
And finally the real olympics kick off today, field events and athletics.
For the track events you all know the usual winners.
Go Kenya! go Kenya
You can all take Nani’s tears and shove them……….what a piss take of a player
Young >>>>>>>>>>>> Nani
Fuck yeah
To be to Nani he is sacrificed for the team as he can play both sides where Tony V is so one footed its untrue. his season never really got going last year but the one before he was the best winger / provider in the league so this constancy label is not true. It was a couple of years back but he has grew into a massive player for us since. A fit in form Nani last year and we would have won the league.
I thought Young had an excellent first year and definitely doesn’t deserve to be labelled shit. He played for the team and scored some crucial goals, Spurs away being my pick.
If Cedars was a big cuddly teddy bear he’d be like the one in the “Ted” movie! Funny as fuck! Ted goes for a job interview that he doesn’t want.
Store Owner: So, you think you got what it takes for this job.
Ted: I tell you what I do got, your wife’s pussy on my breath!
SO: Nobodies ever spoken to me like that!
T: That’s because their mouths are full of your wife’s box!
Gosh, getting you fuckers to reply to a mail is about the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to do.
Done, Balaji!
Cedars- I think you are a bit harsh on Nani. Nani has still to improve but he has improved alot in past 2-3 years. He is 25 and he will reach in his peak in a years time. I feel we will be fools to sell him. Yeah we have young and tony V but Nani is more dangerous than these two. He had a great euro’s.
I know he cried in the scouse game 2 years ago but you have to accept the time of tough players are gone.
Today’s player are cry babies. Even in our squad apart from Vidic and to an extent rooney I don’t see a tough guy. Scholes and giggs were tough but their time is over. I find Rafael a tough guy. Asrenal have full of cry babies. Same with cheslea. Guys like silva,Aguero are also not so tough. Players like Keane,Robson,Zidane,Nedved,Scholes,Gatusso are no longer there. Its very rare to find a strong player who will kick asses of opponents like keane used to do.
So selling nani on that basis is wrong.
Gatusso tough no way he was a fake the sly cunt, Joe Jordan should have smashed his face in
Mike
Ha ha ha………..Pissing my self
Balaji. Hi mate. I agree that Nani’s inconsistency in decision making and selfishness is what frustrates the hell out of all of us. When I said game changer, I mean he is the most likely to change the game along with players like Rooney, Scholes and Giggs. He has that unpredictability factor. There have been instances when he has single handedly changed the course of a game. The CL Q/F against Munich about 3 years ago comes to my mind. He is capable of producing magic but like you said, these kind of moments are few and far between. In addition, I have nothing against Young. I think the lad had a very good first season. We have 3 of the very best wingers in the squad who all offer different kinds of threat and we need to be grateful for that.
Nani potentially World Class. Young is good. Don’t see Real Madrid checking on Youngs availability anytime soon. To be fair though, he fucked city an liverpool off and wanted to be a proper red so kudos to the lad. If he can find his early season form from last year and a consistency then Sir Alex will have some selection issues.
Tough players? Kevin Moran………Now that was one mad fuck …………Nani is a pussy
How can anyone even claim that Nani is world class? Fuck all end product, selfish as fuck and falls over like a tree leaf
looks like mourinho wants to take nani to spain with the latter yet to put ink to a new contract
I agree with Ash, the era of tough players is gone. You won’t find players who would run through brick walls or put their lives on the line sort these days. As for the Nani incident at Anfield, different players have different thresholds of pain. For instance, Valencia broke his leg but he didn’t cry. Moreover ,it wasn’t the crying that pissed me off but his petulance.
Utd4life
Perhaps the era of proper men in the game has gone I agree………..But when I think back to players like Robbo and Keane it sickens me when a United player falls down crying like a little girl
Cedars
“potentially” world class. The boy might be soft as yolk, but he has the ability to do things with a ball our Ash would struggle to pull off on FIFA 12!
Cedars
What Mike is saying that although Young is pants he wanted to play for United over City. so in that respect I also want to play for United and I fucking hate City.
Mike, While I agree that Nani is definitely a great player, I definitely disagree with the following comment “Don’t see Real Madrid checking on Youngs availability anytime soon.” The notion of verifying a player’s potential based on how many clubs are interested in signing him is one that I will never agree with. People made the same argument when we signed Kagawa without any competition whereas Hazard was vaunted by Real, Chelsea and United, so he was more world-class.
Cedars, Reply to the mail you git.
Cedars,
if you criticize Nani, i swear to god i m gonna smack your face like you will never recognize it again
Giggs12
Gattuso was a tough player. He was never afraid of tackling or getting tackled. He was rough. I still remember how he played against us in the 07 semifinal. Compare with him lampard or gerrard or a Busquits you will find out how tough he was. You mat not like him but it doesn’t change the fact that he was a tough player.
oh, there come the Cole and Yorke again
the red fuckers come in tandem like a wave of united’s attack
Morning Glazer shaggers.
Do you ever sleep ffs.
Well i suppose its up to me to start the ball rolling
What’s the difference between a Leeds fan and a coconut?
One’s thick and hairy, and the other’s a tropical fruit.
What has 70,000 arms and an IQ of 170?
Elland road every other Saturday.
Giggs12
Yeah we signed Young because he’s pants!
Mike
Nani is soft as fuck……..I have no room in me heart for him. I know I might be going over board with this but its just how I feel
lordrt,
so that is the breaking news from France eh?
what up pal..
2 more just for Cedars before I piss off to work.
What do Leeds fans use as birth control?
Their personalities.
What’s the difference between a Leeds fan and a vibrator?
A Leeds fan is a real dick.
Ash
Completely agree on Biscuits but Gerrard and Lampard piss on Gatusso on every level. Frank Lampard is massively underrated by United fans and if we were honest with ourselves at his peak would have walked into our side.
Gerrard was a world class player and as much as I dislike him you cant knock his talent he is as good as there has been in CM in the premiership. In fact im saying the top CM midfielders of the prem era that had it all are Keane, Viera, Scholes, Gerrard, and Lampard the rest don’t come close.
Cedars
Read my sensible post mate I like Young, im just taking the piss in the rest
Giggs12
As am I you tit
fuckers, stop taking piss in the name of Nani-Young
So i heard Sir Alex pockets nothing from this IPO? is it true? so bad..
Giggs12
I am not talking about who is good or not. I am talking about who is more tougher. Gattuso was tougher. He may not be as good as a gerrard or a lampard (Eventhough I think he is) but he is more tougher than these two. Honestly I have never seen lampard take the control of the game. He has a good goal scoring record but he is not tough. He can be easily dispossessed. Thats why I love fletcher. He is tough. He has the ability to control the game.
Gattuso was a tough player.
Cedars
Tits are useful mate you have just over sold me.
so that makes,
tit for tat eh?
but whoze got the tit?
Ash
We will have to agree to disagree on this one buddy, i dont rate Gatusso at all and believe he is a fraud. Vastly over rated footballer
Jimmy james,
will the fucker you in accept my friends request sent to you on FB?
Cedars
I’m gonna smash your face off my windshield if that anti Nani shit comes out your mouth one more time…… ONE MORE TIME!!!
haha… Just reminded myself of that scene from Elf…. CALL ME ELF ONE MORE TIME…. haha.
Giggs12 anyone who actively seeks a place in Uniteds squad is ok with me.
Balaji. Was just taking the piss mate.
Mike, Ah sorry mate, reading between the lines is one of those aspects about me that I need to improve.
Mike
Nani is a pussy
(To the tune of money money money from Abba I believe?)
Nani Nani Nani he gets fanny
Him and Anderson
Young with his right foot rapes shit…………Nani just falls over and cries
Cedars,
Nani >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young, anyday mate!
In Fergie I Trust!
Nani’s mercurial runs make Young and his fans shit in pants
Cedars loves young right foots
Lets all get bouncing…………
And each and every one of us loves Alex Ferguson, loves Alex Ferguson
RMW
Young’s left toe>>>>>>>>>>>>Nani
Ashley Young is nails, Nani is a minge here is a video to prove it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARDJ6QcDPk
Cedars and Arsene sitting on a tree …
Duran Duran rio remix
His name is rio and we’re dancing in the stand,
He left the Leeds scum to come to the promised land!
Cedars – I never knew young had a left foot mate! Thought he just hobbled around on his right falling down every few seconds!
Nani’s little pinky finger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young
Why aren’t people bouncing?
RMW
Ha ha ha
Get in King Eric!! Ooh, Aah!!
His beard ftw!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2182810/Eric-Cantona-gets-sea-legs-displays-large-salt-pepper-beard-sailor-stripes.html
@DanielHarris: It’s been a trying week, so here are two cheering classic Old Trafford roars. http://t.co/davqSfmv and http://t.co/ivxEJRrp
Now can we stop taking Andy Greens word as Gospel now as this state of affairs has proven he will say anything to further his agenda. Hopefully it will lead people to question anything he posts and do their own research (and hopefully do the same with opinions of anyone else)
@Kanchelskis
The problem isn’t with him being questioned but there needs to be a basis for these questions. There’s become a culture in the fanbase to question everything based on rumours and to do so in a hysterical manner. The worst thing about this is it leaves us as a fanbase open to be used as a tool by others to push their agendas. And it has happened from Tevez to Andy Green to The Red Knights to MUST and unless we start as a fan base taking a step back and let our head digest each situation rather than rely Soley on our heart it’s going to happen again. And while so far the damage has been negligible there is the possibility of something that rips the club apart
@goatinaunitedshirt
On the National anthem. I don’t have a problem with players not singing if it’s for match preparation reasons. I do have a problem when they don’t sing it for the reason the Scottish members of the Women’s team gave.
God Save the Queen is the national anthem of the UK. It is not the national anthem of England as England doesn’t actually have an official anthem. This is why we always have the debate when the commonwealth games are on as they have a choice of using the UK one or picking traditional English hymns like Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory. Just because someone decided at some point for the England Football Team to use God Save the Queen and it’s stuck because it’s become traditional doesn’t make it the English anthem and choosing to not sing it because of that is a disgrace. I just hope Giggs isn’t being ignorant and he is not singing for football reasons.
@Costas
But what right do we have to question him on this even if he had been getting shares? At the end of the day the Glazers own 100% of the shares themselves and giving or selling them isn’t taking money from the club it’s transferring equity and diluting their own share (even if that is being limited by the voting rights)
It’s not even if the ethical card can be played as the Glazers used their own cash to buy 30% of the shares and the IPO and the Share a scheme accounts for a smaller percentage than that. Then there’s the £290mill that came directly out of the Glazers accounts to complete the takeover. They surely have a right to pay back debts at their end related to the takeover as much as they should be expected to pay back the leveraged buyout ‘debts’. They certainly have no legal reason forcing them to do what they have done and donate 8million shares back to The Club to sell and profit from. Or for that matter give another chunk separate from the IPO to members of staff
IMHO we would have more right as fans to question his and all other employees wages as that’s coming out of the clubs money but even then it’s shaky ground without evidence of something suspect.
Sir Alex is ‘the ‘Legend . No one should question him and I to like him support the Glazers. 4 more years and the debt will be gone. So what…. We are still winning.
Nani and Young are both frustrating piles of shit.
Sir Alex is ‘the ‘Legend . No one should question him and I to like him support the Glazers. 4 more years and the debt will be gone. So what…. We are still winning.
Nani and Young are both frustrating piles of shhhiiiitttt
Capo9
No one is more full of shit than you
Giggs12 – gattuso, another water carrier that would have been exposed for a genuine lack of ability if he didn’t play with brilliant creative players. Players like him is always suited to the tactical serie a.
He’s the type of pure footballing destroyer that FERGIE will never purchase.
The Young and nani debate is always on show. Even at his very best (playing for villa), he has never been anywhere near nani in terms of ability and talent and he never will be, quote me on that.
@Atin
Actually it’s 249 dollars that was the value of of the PIK or in 150 pounds. £510m was leveraged against the club, they invested £290m of which £150m came from the PIK’s. The first 30% of shares to trigger the takeover cost them another couple hundred million as well.
But basically yeah their cut is going to cover some of this investment, if there was any loans used to pay off the PIK then most likely these will be paid (although the PIK was only worth around £100mill when they paid it off as they used the financial crisis to buy 50mill of the PIK back for just £10mill in 2008)
It’s why personally I find it hard to feel aggrieved about the Glazers taking a cut. It’s not taking money out of United, it’s selling something that belongs to them anyway and as a goodwill gesture they have handed United 8million of shares back to sell. They are infact investing money in the club something people have been demanding when they could have kept it all and recovered half of their personal investment.
I will however have an issue should they sell in up in 2017 (or before) because if they do so then taking a cut now is unnecessary. Taking a cut now is what you do when you have no intention of selling up in the near future otherwise you wait to recoup your investment when you sell.
Do Real Madrid seriously think they can get Nani for anything under 35 million pounds? HAHAHAHA what a bloody joke. If you want Nani give us Xabi Alonso.
Samuel
Exactly mate couldn’t agree more on both accounts
I thought I liked dogs and then I met k9…
This Nani and Young debate is ridiculous.
In the last two years, in the Premier League alone, Nani has 21 goals and 36 assists.
Young, while very good on his day, can only dream of that level of consitency.
Kanchelskis
We are very like minded reds mate!
Sandeep1878: am fine buddy & u?
lol think you should say this is the news from spain in this case, thou its only rumours so far since we know that nani wants to extend his OT stay (unless I missed something while not having net connection for some days)
@Giggs12Gerrard0
You and Costas are the only two on here with whom I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed!
http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/an-apology-to-sir-alex-and-restatement.html
This makes for interesting reading.
Note the last paragraph, which states that United’s SMT are stating quite clearly on the IPO roadshow that the club’s transfer budget in the future will usually be a net £20-25m.
The club’s exectives are ADMITTING our transfer budget does not compete with the European powerhouses.
Yet still some on here will defend the Glazers or ignore the issue.
Captaink9…. So shit you said it twice.
@kanchelskis
We will disagree now mate.
According to Espn, it’s 21 league goals and 30 assists for Nani in the last 3 seasons. Likewise, Young’s stats are 18 goals and 24 assists. The number of goals can’t be denied, but assists are always up for debate. Depends where you get the information. Like I’ve always said, no doubt who’s the more productive going forward. However, there’s also no denying who’s the more productive in terms of tracking back. A factor that can’t be taken lightly as long as Evra is in the form he’s been in in the last 12 months.
Costas
That is very true about tracking back but if we had a left back who actually defended we would be ok haha.
not an attack on Paddy, great servant great left winger shit defender
@Costas
Lol – damn!
I’m going with the PL website: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/luis-nani
Which says – in league games for the last 3 seasons, it’s 27 goals (god know what ESPN are on about) and 48 assists.
Lordrt,
I m good mate, thanks.
##
Giggsy12 and Kanchelskis,
looks like them Young fans are shitting in their pants already
Can’t compare like-for-like for Young over the same period. For the first of those three seasons he was at Villa, basically playing up front.
Nani is better than Ashley Young. He scores more goals, has more assists, has done it on the biggest stages before. He is THE BEST winger at Manchester United. Sometimes it shocks me when people claim Nani is still incosistent. Yeah he WAS inconsistent about three four years ago but ever since the season immediately after Ronaldo left, Nani along with Rooney have stepped up to the plate BIG TIME. A shame he was injured for most of last season but even when he came in, he was absolutely fantastic. When he decides to be direct he just may be our most dangerous player. And he’s not 26 yet. We have to give him an extension.
http://www.sport360.com/article/internazionale-agree-deal-man-utd-target-lucas-moura
@dannysoya
Excactly – the inconsistency thing is a myth.
Inconsistency is a trait most recognisable in wingers – it’s the nature of the role. And Nani is no more inconsistent than any other top-class winner.
@Giggs12
I think you summed him up well pal.
The Evra we’ve seen in the last year and a half anyway. The reason I mention him is because it’s something that’s on Fergie’s mind too. Our opponents love doubling up on that side now. For example, Chelsea’s first goal at the Bridge came from his side and after Rio was forced to leave his spot to go help out. A couple of Everton goals at OT came from that side too. And I don’t know how better it’s going to get now that Evra has no competition for his spot. Mind you, if Fergie reverts to 4-5-1 as a result of Kagawa’s arrival, Valencia and Nani have to be the 2 wingers. Because playing with a lone striker and with Young on the wing won’t make a hell of a lot creative….
@Kanchelskis
I know it’s the official Premier League site, but there’s something fishy over there mate. For one thing, Nani scored 10 goals in all competitions last season. So I doubt he got 11 in the Premier League.
Also, it says Rooney got 37 goals this season, even though it was 34. My guess is that these stats refer to what a player has done for club (in all competitions) and country?
Good point about Villa though. It’s not fair to compare the periods where one was playing for United and the other was playing for Villa\\\\
@Costas
Hmmm … right you are. If you select ‘Man Utd’ from the drop down, it revises it down to 8. I don’t know why it would include Portugal stats on the PL site. Rather strange.
@kanchelskis
Ah yes, just figured it out. They’ve made it so complicated for no reason. I must admit, Nani’s stats are a huge surprise for me. According to this website, it’s actually 40 assists for him in the last 3 seasons. Definitely inconsistent.
On this thread:
Balaji Sivaraman says: “I was on the verge of tears when I read that statement”
jeet says: “I was almost in tears myself”
AlphaRS says: “Brought a tear to my eye”
Sufi says: “i was on the verge of tears”
CedarsDevil says: “brought a tear to my face” and “brought a tear to me eye”
CedarsDevil also says: “You can all take Nani’s tears and shove them” and “crying like a little girl” and “crying baby does not belong at our club!”
What’s good for the geese is good for the gander. Honk! Honk!
New players purchased here not considered, Nani is our most skillful player.
He was the players’ POTY 2 years ago.
He remains dedicated to United. He is very popular among the players.
Perhaps Nani is metrosexual (a young, urban, heterosexual male with liberal political views, an interest in fashion, and a refined sense of taste) Perhaps Nani wears his heart on his sleeve, he’s not the only player at United to fit that bill. Perhaps none of these players would have made the old Wimbledon team of hard-cases. The fact that SAF and our entire squad considers Nani an integral part of the United first team is more than enough for me.
Nani is an excellent player and a wonderful human being. He is very welcome here.
Big things in store for our mercurial winger, no doubt.
Shine on Nani, you crazy diamond, shine on!
@Wakey –
What gets my gut is the fact that they could easily try and get a major chunk of the debt off the club’s and the holding company’s books. After that, they can just take the whole goddamn golden egg every season in dividends.
Or are they not doing that because later on, a new manager would be handling the reigns and thus, and we wont be assured of the certain degree of success we’ve become accustomed to. So, milk some money now and let the club pay off slowly as the seasons go by.
Dazbomber
Inter are definitely interested but that story is bull shit. Made up by a reporter who likes to cobble stories together from rumours. Inter sent a representetive to find out the price of the player (why they couldn’t have called I don’t now?) but morretti hasn’t sanctioned any bid. United are still in the driving seat but with inters interest it will be a lot harder. That’s what I’ve heard anyway.
The fact that Fergie has even had to come out with this is embarrassing.
Anyone that thought he was going to benefit from this is so dumb its unbelievable. There are so many people who are like this in the world today its why people are so stupid!
Long Live King Fergie!
United are in action tonight with Warren Joyce taking a Reds XI to Scunthorpe. Supporters can pay on the gate at Glanford Park. Goalkeeper Sam Johnstone is looking forward to the game with particular relish as he spent time on loan with Scunthorpe last season while Brazilian trialists Gladstony and Agnaldo could be involved again.
Manager Alan Knill told the club’s official website: “It is really good for the supporters to see the stars of the future, because Man United have that tradition of bringing the youngsters through. We went last year to watch them play Shrewsbury. Again, it was a Manchester United XI, but I have to say it was an unbelievable team. They have the best younger players in the country without a doubt. So if you are not seeing the stars of now you are definitely seeing the stars of two or three years’ time.”
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2012/Aug/scunthorpe-v-manchester-united-xi-preview.aspx
Kick off – 19h30 – RoM time.
Dreadedred
Great post, eat that Cedars real men cry and wear pink
Horses for courses!
viva #7
Nani and Young both have apart to play in the coming season. Each have a great attributes for the team. As for Tony V he could win the grand national!
I have only read to about half way, so dont know if it has been mentioned.
Would it not stop so much of this if these senior employees were named as to who will benefit?
MK12 your ass looks good in that skirt! Spot on.
My pants do not make my ass look fat, it’s my fat that makes my ass look big.
There is no crying in baseball. I look good in pink.
Much to read yet.
Markynorbs
Stop being so sensible mate, how the fuck can we argue with well put together posts?
DreadedRed,
mate, do you have any details about the Mombasa resort or beach?
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/163432.html
Sir Alex pulled Red Issue’s pants down. Naughty boys! Love Fergie, Love United!
Costas, Interesting stats. But maybe those are “exactly” the reasons why Young doesn’t have better stats to his name. Maybe he “seems” to be less productive going forward because he is more productive going backward. Maybe because of the work he puts in on the other end of the pitch, he isn’t able to be as effective going forward. Not arguing that it is “definitely” the case but just putting it out there for people to have a think.
MK!12 one of my favorites
Morning brothel dwellers
I’m more on Cedars side, Nani a talent but frustrates all he plays with as well ME!! Great skill the best that we have. Moments of WOW WTF!! Then I yell at the TV. That CS game almost hurt him, he played like a world top 10 player that day, how many others for the whole game? Still I like him on the club. Fight earn the minutes, start the big games down the stretch. Like those old John Houseman commercials, you have to ” EARNNN IT!”
Haven’t heard a lot about the Berbatov situation this summer, but according to this, his wage demands are the reason he hasn’t agreed on a move elsewhere yet:
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/Manchester-United/Berbatov-won't-budge-on-wages-1450398.html?#.UBuu2bQe5gg
Hey Kebab! Sure, I would want my $ owed me as well. But I’m a greedy piggy that way. SAF will keep him, no problem.
@AnnieEaves: Spanish press say Manchester United want Sahin but will only do permanent deal. Marca featured a snippet … http://t.co/fo8p0fDX
hum
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/What-The-Papers-Say/2012/Aug/papers-manchester-united-prepare-to-spend-again.aspx
Sometimes the best judge of talent are the players. I have said before, PP left because of this guy.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour2012Teaser/Tour2012News/2012/Aug/ryan-tunnicliffe-aiming-to-grasp-opportunity.aspx#
@Balaji
I think that’s a valid explanation. A player can’t be everywhere at once. The problem in Young’s case is that it’s becoming a habit for him. During Euro 2012 he looked more like a left wing-back than a left winger. But I don’t mind it a lot. Variety in any position comes in handy and now that Park is gone, someone else will have to do the dirty work. For me the area where Nani and Young are the most different is dribbling. Their end product not so much. But when Young is on the ball and running at a defender, I am not as assured as I am when Nani does it.
@Zibbie
Hi pal. Actually, I believe his demands are actuallyy a step down compared to what he’s making at United (60k per week if this article is to be believed). However, it’s not easy to find that money in Turkey or a middle of the table Spanish club. Maybe he should have followed Drogba’s lead and went to China. Unfortunately for him, he wants to play in a competittive league.
I love you fergie.
dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY – I am sorry but valencia is our best winger, when valencia is on form his delivery of the ball is terrifying.
Sahin, created the most chances in Germany 2 years ago. Plays well with Kagawa.
20-25 million net pounds is a nice hunk of $, when you consider the academy produces many PL type player, who do not cut it at MUFC, high standards. Then the SA pipe line coming as well, and other developed young buy’s that make net $ so what add some 8 million to that. 28-33 million a year with the kids that do make it, sweet, sweet future.
40 mill huh? I thought SAF was gonna pocket all that? *rolls eyes*
Can someone teach me that smiley?
Thanks Costas, I could not get the link! In the right system Berba has a place. Great gifts he has.
Nani is like Al Pacino. Ashley Young is more a Colin Farrel.
All quite on the twitter front.
Tea leaves say, Lucas lad on his way.
Moyes poised to find a replacement…….that will be $200.
Hows the chair?
Giggs12Gerrard0 – we are all pink on the soles of our feet, perhaps it’s spreading!
I haven’t experienced the oft-mentioned man-love that many of us have fallen prey to. On second thoughts, perhaps I have. I do love Sir Alex, many of our players, all of our Legends and especially Sir Matt. Perhaps I’m a metro-necro-sexual? Who cares, certainly not me. I am that I am.
50 shades – I wear my red-glasses on RoM; so I can, so I can watch you weave then breathe your story lines.
Were you feeling me, I was sending Wolf vibes, for there was a blood orange moon on the rise last night!!!!!!!
Just moments before your post, oh I was to send a shout out to an old pack member!!!!!!
Take me back…
AHOOOOOOOOOO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MRu8N2K0NY
Sandeep1878 – for Mombassa updates, best we ask the many Kenyan Reds on RoM!
theredderdevil is present, perhaps he can enlighten us?
Where the fuck is willie?
Pippo Inzibbie – The chairs fine! Keep it Red my brother.
DreadedRed – Caught your post on the Red issue thread? You spoke without the shades on. Eyes with dread fixated on the drivel, you eclipsed their hate with ease!
Life is on line 2, be well RoM.
Willie – have you read that book? Can’t make up my mind whether to buy it or not!
50 nuts hanging in the shade of a big red willie, penetrative as always!
Your presence in the present is the best present that any present could be presented with.
Be the gift that keeps on giving. Hang around good sir!
Anders Lindegaard has signed a new four year deal with United. Awesome!
No direct comparisons but I really do love Lindy. He’s a great goal keeper who is just a shade behind DDG in certain aspects. His interviews are always awesome, his tweets are incredible and his attitude is exactly what you would want out of a Manchester United player. I was reading tweets from some people with United circles (Nick Coppack I think) that many think this year could be his year. As in he can stamp a place for himself if he’s up for it. But if not, what an awesome backup goalkeeper to have, right?
Anders Lindegaard has signed a new deal.
Jeet – I haven’t mate.
Has Heskey signed yet?
Jeet – Its an erotic Twilight!!!
RedManWalking – Fangs for that!
50 shades of Willie? Blimey, was hard enough dealing with just one
@RMW: thanks, I think based on that I’ll say “screw it”
Jeet – yup! The entire novel is based on the “the perfect boyfriend” screwing an average gal and also engaging in light BDSM. Check out some of the reviews on Amazon. Thats way more entertaining!
Fergie needs to back himself up now by delivering the signing which the club needs. And prove to us that the money is availible when needed. City, Chelsea, Arsenal and spurs are all spending. What is happening on the transfer front? We all got our hopes up on RVP but that seems to have gone cold and Juve are now in the hot seat. Moura has gone quiet. Is the money really there are are they just false activity.Fergie has had a lot of support over years from the fans and long may it continue, but making bold statements backing the Glazers and a week later they anounce they are ripping the club off is damaging. The only way he can settle things now is by pulling off some amazing signings. This wont take away that the fact that the Glazers are pocketing interest from the club but it will keep footballing interests up. If United fall behind City and Chelsea this year it could be damaging and fans could turn. Losing the title to City the way we did just devestated me. United need to react.
Just gotta say how much I enjoyed those videos posted by MikeKelly @ 9:20!!
I think anybody who’s getting their hopes up on transfers is going to be disappointed.
If I’m reading it right, the statement says 40 mil net spend for the entire window. (If it’s 40 mil from now onwards, then please tell me so, and don’t bother reading the rest of this post!) We’ve approx. 25-30 mil left taking into account likely fund inflow from player sales and what we’ve spent till date. So where does that leave us?
1. Left back – 10ish spent on a young LB. If it’s Baines, Everton’s gonna have to stop playing silly buggers. I’m bullish on this one, Fergie’s almost as good as admitted we’re gonna buy a player for this position.
2. Fantasy player, say Moura – fuggedaboudit! Unless those ridiculous numbers of 30 mil are exactly that, i.e., ridiculous. More I think about it Moura seems to be a negotiation message for Nani.
3. Established midfielder, e,g., Modric, Moutinho, Sahin – ditto, particularly if the LB is coming in, w are just gonna be left with 15-20 mil.
4. RVP – not gonna happen, unless it runs to deadline day, and Monsieur has to choose between a distress sale and next year’s zilch
My bet would be on a young left back, and another young rabbit pulled straight out of Fergie’s arse, a la Chicharito.
CedarsDevil – Means to an end, my friend. Your chants for Fergie resonated throughout the Republik! Love Fergie, Love United!
MarkoWire – you are completely wrong.
Fergie does NOT need to back up his statement.
You don’t believe him, and no matter what he does or says that will never change.
You do not believe in Sir Alex Ferguson, and never will.
To me, this clearly shows that you do not believe in our Club.
You are not a fan, you are not a supporter, you are not a believer.
You say: “The only way he can settle things now is by pulling off some amazing signings”
Bullshit! Nothing Sir Alex does will ever make you settled.
You are greedy, selfish and a glory-hunter to boot.
MarkoWire? Hmph.
NoMarkWirePuller is a far better description of your unfaithful reaction to Sir Alex’s truth.
@mickjk
For a long time Real and Barca had an advantage because of the tax rules. They were also knew if they overspent they could rely on help from the local government, national government, the Royal Family and the Spanish banks.
Things are changing though, the tax loops holes been fixed and with our tax rate coming down the UK is more appealing and with Real and Barca not having the safety net they can’t spend in the same way. Just look at how Real are haggling with Spurs over Modric, this isn’t their usually tactic. And Barcas president has stated that from now on they have to stick to their €40mill transfer budget.
The weathers still a major appeal, the latin players will favour spains lifestyle, the media fawning over them (Barca especially) helps and the way the TV deal ensures they will alway have some money to spend but there is a swing towards England.
@parryheid
Exactly, it’s exactly as I have been saying about him pretty much since his report on the Glazers mall business he did for MUST which was then used for the basis of the BBC program. I don’t know if it’s simply an ego thing with him as he likes the attention and TV appearances or if it’s the fact that MUST do pay him for some of work but he has been too eager to draw conclusions that he can’t back up and at times even completely misrepresent the facts to suit his agenda (as he did with the Mall Business as I pointed out in detail at the time)
@Esteban
Sadly the likes of MUST, Andy Green, Red Knights and the media have done such a number on 90% of fans that they have no idea what they want. Everything is contradictory. Things like Wanting 30mil+ spent on a single player each season and breaking the bank on wages but don’t want all the commercial deals & want cheap tickets. Want the debt paid down but want dividends to be paid.
@xol
MUST are deluded once again if they think this is the Glazers are preparing for an exit. If it was they would have gifted the Club all 16mill shares rather than just 8mill. The debt lowers the value of the club in a sale so if they were looking for a get out anytime soon they would have paid more of the clubs debt off rather than look to pay some of their own ‘debt’ acquired to buy the club.
@Kanchelskis
And Barca have stated they can’t exceed €40mill transfer spend no matter what now their safety net isn’t available. The only clubs With budgets significantly more than us are the sugar daddy clubs but how long will that last
And the budget hasn’t changed since day 1. If they had used a different figure in the IPO it’s possible it would have issues with the Bonds as for that it was expressly stated the budget was £25m net. The club have generally made over £10mill from transfers out so that boost the available funds and there generally seems to be a surplus for buying ‘key’ players which aren’t something you buy every summer.
@Atin
It seems to me the idea was to reduce the debt by $100m at this point and when the indication was that they would more than double that they have decided it makes more sense to reduce the debt on both sides. They will then wait for the price to reach a certain level and release more shares (which actually due to the voting rights makes the original public offering more valuable) and reduce the debt significantly on both sides if not wipe it out.
As for dividends I’m not sure they feel they could take dividends. If you look at the anger towards the Interest which they aren’t getting or the anger at the money they will get from selling their own shares (despite donating 8mill shares to the club and another chunk to the employee share scheme) then Imagine the anger if they were taking money directly out of the club. I would imagine they would be aware of this.
RE: Young/Nani debate
I have said this before but I think in Young and Valencia you have two similar players. Both are a little 1 dimensional in their style but both work hard both ways and are consistent and dependable . Youngs no where near Valencias level mind you as Valencia knows where he lacks in the Skill department but has honed the rest of his game to be offset the weakness
Nani on the other hand can lack constancy and certainly offers less going backwards than the other two but he has immense skill. While the other two are unlikely to unlock a team if they are having a poor game Nani has that ability. He can do something special at any time that will completely change a match that special players can do.
It simply comes down to each game and what you want from the team and what other players are picked when deciding on Young or Nani for the Left Wing role
jeet, we’ve already spent about 20mil on Kagawa and Powell, leaves about 20.
There goes the woy hodgson-esque tactics. Play wingers to protect full-backs. Conservative and isn’t progressive. I don’t know why this debate is even coming up, Nani is by far the best winger at united. Young has and will never show ability to rival let alone thrump nani, the portuguese is miles better technically. The constant myth about he doesn’t have consistency is laughable. Why he has not been given a new deal is beyond me, he’s more important to the team than lindegaard in my view. No wonder why real-madrid have started to sniff for an opportunity to take him.
YorYor – Down payments for Kagawa and Powell were £12mill and £3mill respectively. That’s 5 shy of your estimation brother.
With you there Sammy. Nani’s got real game! Madrid can do one…
WRN, I guess it depends on whether they look at future payments (which they expect to pay) as being budgetted for. If not, then it leaves 25, let’s see if they do close the deals for those positions which are sorely lacking in depth. I’m still certain those publicly discussed targets are smokescreens, as usual.
On the £40 million quote, that was an estimation, it could be higher than that. Also, if Berbatov leaves that’s going to bolster the budget a bit, and also there’s a strong possibility that Nani will IF Lucas Moura is bought… remember we already have three wingers… Valencia not going to be sold and Ashley Young won’t be sold so quickly… Nani is the one with a year left on his contract and no new deal yet…
Well it was Sir Alex that used Young on the left for most of the title run in, not Hodgson. So obviously, he sees the need in using someone to make up for Evra’s shortcomings. And with good reason when you remember how inefficient Nani was in that role at home against Everton.
Seriously?
Sir Alex owes us no explanation. It’s horror to doubt that man.
Only 1 thing to say…
Glazers out!
Ferguson’s.. Red White army
Ha ha ha…………. Will somebody piss on these turds that are calling the lads that (begrudgingly) helped form FC United. Who the fuck do they think they are calling them ‘cowards’ ‘traitors’ etc. They obviously know fuck all about the situation. I am assuming they are children. cyber-faggots, fucking no-marks!! As for fergie, best manager ever.
I like the fact he pointed out he could have left years ago.
Alec on the take? The man is the managerial equivalent of Ronaldo FFS.
He could walk into any Club in the world and name his price.
You don’t know what you’ve got till its gone.
UTID.