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Fergie: We Subject Fans To Drama

Sir Alex Ferguson has today reflected on the four goals we gave away against Everton last weekend which meant we lost our five point lead at the top of the table.

“We’re smarting from the four goals we gave away last week,” he told the official site. “We tend to make it hard for ourselves. We subject our supporters to that sort of drama. For years and years, it’s been like that. Hopefully, we’ll make amends on Monday.”

City boss Roberto Mancini has repeatedly said that his team have no chance of winning the league after they blew their eight point lead to let us over take them. Fergie knows Mancini is just doing this to take the pressure off their players and insists it won’t have any impact on United.

“Roberto wants to take the pressure off his own players,” he said. “It won’t affect our approach or our attitude to the game. We know the situation we’re in. We’re in a better position than Manchester City. We could come out with two results, whereas they have to win. Although you know this club’s attitude – we’ll be trying to win. You would have to be a confirmed masochist to enjoy it. But we are looking forward to it and the players will be fully prepared for it.”






 

271 Comments

  1. Albert Ross says:

    Hit me baby, one more time!

  2. Giggs's Left Boot says:

    we always do it the hard way.its as if fergie enjoys the drama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5YOEFbInY

  3. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Always the hard way innit! The cardiac kids, and that’s a fact.

    Sir Alex also has some interesting statements about the derby:
    “We have to get used to playing City in important games. The financial support they have means we’ll meet them in a lot of big games. Therefore, if we’re going to be contesting with them for the league title it will become almost as important as the Liverpool derbies. In fact, this supercedes Liverpool at the moment because they’re our direct opponents. We have to focus on the team who can affect our progress in terms of winning the league.”

    Bigger than ‘pool? Only if they can fill their own stadium?!

  4. Marq says:

    You mean United subject Fans to heart attacks? =p

  5. Shebangsthedrums says:

    I wouldn’t have it any other way Sir Alex. Just do us all proud Monday night.

  6. jeet says:

    I just hope the insurers don’t start charging us higher premia :)

  7. NBI Red Onion says:

    Very glass half full. Clearly he has just kicked someone in the head.

    City will lose as – height. Three short forwards bar Dzeko – they will need to play themselves in.

    Ashley will get a penalty.

    Nerves.

  8. andromeda says:

    Now wait a minute!does that mean our last minutes complacency against Everton was something intentional?Well it make sense for me then.Fergie is the God of tricks and mind games, there is no doubt about that.bring on Shitty…

  9. Mikekelly12 says:

    Shebangsthedrums
    Fuck me, I’d have it any other way. Id have settled for a 4-2 win last week and a lovely little title run in thanks very much! Sir Alex, you owe us nothing. You’ve given us so much to be happy about in the last 25 years. But please please please “make amends on Monday”

  10. Costas says:

    Taking it to the wire is United fashion. Fucking up like we did against Everton isn’t. Sorry. Like fergie said, lets hope we make up for it on Monday.

  11. NBI Red Onion says:

    I would love a 5 pt lead…..!!! But provided we do win this will b worth it. This match now has the inensity of a cock ring – isnt that right @ Clint? It is only good if there is a climax. Else I will hate that Everton match forever when I see troll lifting…ugg…

  12. Richard says:

    You are correct Sir. Alex :) .. I now keep aspirin close by and one finger on speed dial to the hospital emegency room….But that’s the allure of Man U–always high, high drama –I wouldn’t have it any other way…

  13. redevil_83 says:

    i don’t like how we throw away 4 goal lead with so much at stake. at home no less. should i love it?

  14. FletchTHEMAN says:

    United Reserves about to kick off v Wolves at Moss Lane.

    XI: Johnstone; Vermijl DeLaet Thorpe MKeane; Fryers Cole Tunnicliffe WKeane; Petrucci James

    Subs Giverin Jacob Blackett Fornasier van Velzen.

  15. redevil_83 says:

    maradona says manchester derby now bigger than el clasico. the champions league final el clasico that never was, included lol

  16. Albert Ross says:

    Try this for the Reserves game

    http://www.coolsport.tv/stream1.php

    Pep has asked for a year’s leave.

  17. jeet says:

    Really? If there’s nothing majorly wrong with his personal life (I hope not)then its a pretty wimpy attitude at this level

  18. ididnotzeeit says:

    Truth be told, a 5 point lead would’ve taken a little bite out of the tie, now however, she’s a full blooded, title deciding affair. Go’on Lads, have at it on Monday.

    Footy eh? What a game.

  19. Costas says:

    Imo that’s where Pep doesn’t cut it as Fergie’s succesor. Can’t take the heat for too long. Wouldn’t commit to his club for more than 1 year and now take a sabbatical after his first bad season.

  20. Albert Ross says:

    So Pep has the urge to coach in another place.

    He has told the Barca Board that at the end of the season he wants out, as his contract is up. They have apparently asked him to reconsider, and a final decision will be made tomorrow. He says he will leave, as he needs a break.

    He is a bottling wimp. I never liked the comparisons between this bright flash-in-the-pan and our Manager. Talk to me in 20 years about Guardiola and you’ll probably have to remind me who he was.

  21. redevil_83 says:

    would you rather have the #20 dream near complete at this point. or the anxiety of going to a title deciding derby match at home of an arch rival and disgrace them there onward to #20 glory. i know what i’d rather have ;) love the drama

  22. Mikekelly12 says:

    Albertross
    Too right. Two ways of looking at it. 1. Do we really think Pep could have taken this current United squad to where Sir Alex has? 2. Imagine what Sir Alex could have done with that Barca squad. Think about that for a second and that sheds just a fraction of the multitudes of differences between the great man and the young pretender.

  23. Albert Ross says:

    Mikekelly12 – both your questions confirm to me that Pep is just a novice.

    Comparing him (or TSO) with Sir Alex are a waste of time, and actually aggravate my ire.
    He is overrated and I am over irated.

  24. Mikekelly12 says:

    Albatross
    To think, at the start of the season sone people had the gall to think AVB could go toe to toe with Sir Alex. Where the hell is he now. Old face on a balloon Di Mateo has faired better!!

  25. Albert Ross says:

    The MUTV coverage is outstanding. The commentary as well, is brilliant.
    Also the clips they show and the studio work is very professional, even classy.

  26. Albert Ross says:

    Ha Ha Ha ! ! !

    That ballon is going to look mighty wrinkled after the deflation in Germany!

  27. Danhbk says:

    @ManUtd_247

    For up to the minute Manchester United news/opinion.

  28. mancdub says:

    Albert Ross
    Spot on. I never entertained the the idea that Guardiola could manage United.
    He has been at Barca for a relatively short period of time.
    During this time we have been constantly told that he only see’s the job as temporary because the pressure is too great. 
    Is this a man that could cope with the pressure of replacing the greatest manager the world has ever seen?
    I don’t think so.
    Bring on the next pretender.

  29. Albert Ross says:

    Danhbk

    6 minutes have passed. Still no news?

  30. mancdub says:

    On topic
    This season is a sky sports wet dream.
    Not good for my blood pressure but I must admit, I’ve not enjoyed one this much for a few years.

  31. Sandeep1878 says:

    Yes sir,

    after all football isnt an easy ride..

    ups and downs all the way..and this Monday it will be at its peak!!

    All that matters is not to concede the first goal!!

    We cant keep playing hard football with bitters..

    bring some flair and they will get fucked…thats what will happen on Monday!

  32. Albert Ross says:

    Bring on the next pretender, mancdub! How many have we seen fall by the wayside?
    Long may that continue!

    I can’t say that Pep doesn’t have what it takes, but no one can say that he does.
    Only time will tell us how good he was. I’ve seen nothing attractive in him yet.
    He’s just another contender.

    Anyway, I feel sure that we will get a Home Union Manager next.
    Otherwise, he’ll be home-grown (like Ole or even Blanc)

    Ideally Scottish!

  33. Sandeep1878 says:

    Jeet,

    I hope they dont say the insurance is for all except Man United fans ;)

  34. Sandeep1878 says:

    Jeet,

    Replying to your post in other thread,

    well that Giggsy formation was just because someone mentioned he may be contention..

    my squad for the game is,

    De Gea

    Rafael
    Evans
    Rio
    Evra

    Carrick
    Scholesy

    Valencia
    Rooney
    Nani

    Danny

  35. mancdub says:

    Replacing Sir Alex surely has to be the biggest job in world football.
    Guardiola admits he can’t take pressure.
    I would say he definitely hasn’t got what it takes.

  36. King Eric says:

    What a little fucking fag Pep is. “Ooh I cannot handle the pressure”. Grow a fucking pair you prat. All goes tits up and he throws his toys out the pram.

  37. King Eric says:

    Albert Ross – ” He is a bottling wimp. I never liked the comparisons between this bright flash-in-the-pan and our Manager. Talk to me in 20 years about Guardiola and you’ll probably have to remind me who he was. ”

    Nail on the head mate.

  38. Albert Ross says:

    I was waiting for King Eric’s response to Pep! More quality to come, no doubt!

  39. mancdub says:

    I would love to see Ole back at the club but he still has an awful lot to prove.
    Winning the league in Norway is a good start but I would like to see him kick on from that. See what he can do in a big league. Preferably the premier league.

  40. redbilly says:

    Nothing wrong with pep. Takes a year off as understudy to the great man.

  41. Albert Ross says:

    King Eric – is he still Pep? Or has his pip popped like a pup running with the big dogs?

    Pep? No. Pop, Pup or even Pap, as in the closest thing to a cunt is a Pap-smear.

  42. redbilly says:

    King eric- what are your thoughts on pep going to city?.

  43. Albert Ross says:

    Pap Guardiola smeared his name today, all over the cunts at barca: “Filthy, fetid dirty, dingy and dross” mumbled Pap, as he smeared himself on any cunt that would listen.

  44. Sandeep1878 says:

    some Brian Clough quotes..

    “I wouldn’t say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one” – On his own success.

    “If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he’d have put grass up there” – On the importance of passing the ball to feet.

    “I only ever hit Roy the once. He got up so I couldn’t have hit him very hard” – On dealing with Roy Keane.

    “We talk about it for 20 minutes and then we decide I was right” – On dealing with players who disagree with him.

    “At last England have appointed a manager who speaks English better than the players” – On the appointment of Sven-Goran Eriksson.

    “I’m sure the England selectors thought if they took me on and gave me the job, I’d want to run the show. They were shrewd because that’s exactly what I would have done” – On not getting the England manager’s job.

    “Players lose you games, not tactics. There’s so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes” – On England’s exit from Euro 2000.

    “The Derby players have seen more of his balls than the one they’re meant to be playing with” – On a streaker who once interrupted a Derby County-Manchester United match.

  45. Sandeep1878 says:

    “I can’t even spell spaghetti never mind talk Italian. How could I tell an Italian to get the ball? He might grab mine” – On the influx of foreign players.

  46. mancdub says:

    To be honest I havn’t got a clue who I want to take over when the time comes.
    Just a big list of names I don’t want.

  47. Marq says:

    Does Barca even need a manager? All that guy needs to do is keep Xavi, Inesta & Messi fit.

    Have never rated Guardiola, and after this, probably never will.

  48. King Eric says:

    Mike – Hello mate. Ha. Face on a balloon. Quality!

  49. WillieRedNut says:

    I stick by what I said on Tuesday. He’s a tad overrated for me. Don’t care what Sammy says! A hose pep ban for United! :P

  50. King Eric says:

    redbilly – Ha. Pep to City? Won’t happen mate. He won’t get that mob playing that tika taka style. Lets face it does he know any different?

  51. ak47 says:

    @Costas,

    Bit harsh on Pep. You’ve got to remember the guy has been involved non-stop in professional football since his teens. He didn’t have a gap between management and as a player. Then to take such a huge job (and it was huge if you remember the struggles he had when he first took over) as one of your senior management roles.

    I think the brain will do him the world of good. He has the right playing ethic, charisma, charm and character to be Man Utd manager and I for one would love to see him as United manager, even if it for 5 years.

  52. Sandeep1878 says:

    Pep’s major success is because of the team he has got and the peak of the players, notably Messi, Xavi and Iniesta..

    Out him in a different club and we will know the real Pep..

    he is in no way ready or should be preferred for the job at OT..

    still 2 to 3 years of Sir Alex..

    then we have Ole Ole Ole Ole Ole Ole…

  53. FletchTHEMAN says:

    If you feel like you need to suck on bitter lemons then you might enjoy this treatise on Paul Scholes by a fan (well a fan of Scholes anyway).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mark-kelleher/reflections-on-the-return_b_1454244.html

    Hope the team does invest though since last years efforts need to be continued for another 2-3 years.

  54. redbilly says:

    king eric- I doubt it. thats the achilles heel.

  55. WillieRedNut says:

    John Terry has threw his knee into the hat for next Barcelona manager. 8)

  56. redbilly says:

    lads scored 45:28 :-)

  57. UNITED4Life says:

    why many here are so critical of barca and Pep ? they beat us to two CL by playing the right football..even Fergi admited that..i don’t hate barca rather i want United to do much better than barca..

  58. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Petrucciiiiiiii! Scrum in front of goal finished off with authority!

    HT 1-0 UnitedReserves v Wolves at Moss Lane, Altrincham:

    Soggy/Tackled by the pitch type conditions.
    Wolves more in for fight then a game

  59. Mikekelly12 says:

    Willie
    Haha… Loved both those posts. Tikki takki picked a pep of pickled pepi. How many picks of pickled pepi till tikki pepi quits??

  60. FletchTHEMAN says:

    United4Life. Can’t stand their diving begging for a free kick ticky tacky play. They can play mind, but they arn’t used to it.
    One could say that only a bunch of diving Chaves like Chelsea had a chance v Barca because a real team trying to play english football wouldn’t have stood a chance.

  61. Sandeep1878 says:

    FletchTHEMAN,

    thanks for the lovely link..

    Pretty much sums up the current situation..

    good read, but i m not happy with the last but one line, it is not in a harmful way, but why fucking people stop mentioning his asthma…

  62. Sandeep1878 says:

    * why dont

  63. Albert Ross says:

    Pepsi Guardiola – bottled in Barcelona – spanish on the fly!

    Slogans of “Bummer Time is Pepsi Time” and “Twice is too much for the Fickle” ring out, as Barcelona’s Diet Pepsi loses it’s fizz.

  64. mancdub says:

    UNITED4Life
    I dislike Barcelona because their better than us and they have sunshine. Cunts 

  65. Sandeep1878 says:

    UNITED$life,

    fans here know Barca play good football..its not a matter of that..

    its their never ending cheating tricks and antics to reach the final and the never ending support of refs and UEFA..

    That game against Chelsea, coupla years ago, the most bent game in the recent history..

    as always we want United to do good..

    but if you ask me why fans hate Barca, thats my answer..

    and please let us not mistake this with a conspiracy of refs favoring United..

    Even the most dumb fans know how Barca get the rub of the green..

    cunts always trying to get the opposition player sent off, always trying to win the penalties that never exist, always trying to clutch the face even if the tackle was on toe, it is their attitude of winning the games at any cost that pisses all of us here, any cost that illegitimate..

    cheers

    Good night!!

    Good night ROM

  66. Albert Ross says:

    Tikki takki picked a pep of pickled pepi. How many picks of pickled pepi till tikki pepi quits?

    Simply brilliant Mike!

  67. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Tikki takki picked a pep of pickled pepi ….. mint :lol:

    But honestly. Pep has hasn’t done passing bad as a manager or player.

    Manager from Wiki:
    La Liga (3): 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11
    Copa del Rey (1): 2008–09
    Supercopa de España (3): 2009, 2010, 2011
    UEFA Champions League (2): 2008–09, 2010–11
    UEFA Super Cup (2): 2009, 2011
    FIFA Club World Cup (2): 2009, 2011

    Maybe he is tired of the Tiki taki as well. ;)

  68. WillieRedNut says:

    Mikey12 – Ha ha. He’s run out of peptrol! :)

  69. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @Sandeep1878 Cheers mate. It is a good read innit.
    Just prefer a spoonful of sugar with my lemons :)

  70. Sandeep1878 says:

    my goodness,

    Pep is the most successful Barca manager ever ;)

  71. Sandeep1878 says:

    FTM,

    indeed a good read mate..

    cheers

    Good night to you and ROM!

  72. MG says:

    Good Evening United

    Whilst I can’t disagree with the comments however I believe the criticism of Pep is a little bit too much

    If he walks he walks – yet what he has achieved is nothing short of unbelievable. Are we this angry because his team beat us twice in the CL?

    At the end he’s practically done his bit, which makes what Sir Alex has done even more poignant. We are not privy to his reactions today, though we also know that he is under some pressure under that board – yet still it’s amazing what he’s done.

    I for one hate the tippy happy football – no doubt – but hey we haven’t had an answer to it in two finals and I only care about Manchester United coming to terms with beating Barca.

    If Guardiola has truly gone that is one huge slice of Barca as it is finishing, and to those terms Sir Alex was right – I guess what he meant by Barca having a life cycle of 4 years was dependent on Guardiola walking – and Sir Alex must have known something.

    Incredible events – from the worlds best team to the untouchables etc to now this.

    No doubt Barca will carry on but without Guardiola maybe they won’t be so untouchable after all – interesting times ahead for sure.

    I will however say this – he’s done that for a reason – and ultimately only time will tell how everything pans out. Don’t forget all the team practically lay everything at his doorstep – it will be quite interesting now how they react – much like we will have too when Sir Alex goes one day.

    I hated the fact that his team put on two incredible performances to beat us in the finals whilst we had nothing to show for ourselves – for that and the way he understood what United were whilst we never understood them despite knowing how brilliant they were – you can only have respect for the man.

    Good luck to him – it only shows the incredible brilliance of Sir Alex Ferguson and if one thing is clear maybe there will never ever be a manager like him ever at United again. I mean Pep may easily be united manager in the future but I personally think a 10 year successful stint would be enough – I can never see anyone going beyond a certain limit if that.

    Today I understand the privilege that we have in our gaffer.

    It hurts when we lose, but to have a genius at the helm is well a blessing.

    Let’s hope he can guide us once more this season before we go again.

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  73. Costas says:

    @ak47

    It’s not just this. It’s his general approach to his managerial position. Personally I wouldn’t want any manager at the club that wouldn’t commit beyong 1 year and would leave after his first significant failure. I realize it hasn’t been easy on him, but there are managers like Ferguson, Wenger and even Mourinho that have been doing this a lot longer. Not counting summers or being between jobs, I don’t know if these guys have ever willingly taken a break from their work. Pep is in his early 40s and wants a time out already?

  74. FletchTHEMAN says:

    2-0 65′ Cole!!!! UnitedReserves v Wolves.

  75. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Damn, keep missing the goals.

  76. UNITED4Life says:

    i get that..that’s why many hates us because we win year after year..but rather have barca’s style at united than chelsea’s..

  77. Albert Ross says:

    Let’s stick with United’s style.

  78. Mikekelly12 says:

    High praise coming from the original wordsmith The Albertross. Haha cheers pal, cheers fletch. Athletic Club have remembered how to play football tonight.

  79. MG says:

    Yes The United Way is as special as anything else.

    Last minute goals and all :lol:

    God bless what we have witnessed, and it isn’t over.

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  80. MG says:

    Neil Warnock for Barca manager?

    :lol:

  81. MG says:

    Mick McCarthy?

  82. MG says:

    Some people on twit world have been mentioning:

    AVB as next Barca manager.

    Oh yes please, after what he’s done with Chelsea.

    :lol:

  83. Mikekelly12 says:

    Willie
    All this tension could give him heart burn! Pepto Bismol should do the trick!

  84. MG says:

    I’ve got it

    Rafa for Barca.

    :lol:

  85. MG says:

    Even better:

    Sven Fabio and Steve assisted by Stuart Pearce as Barca management.

    :lol:

  86. MG says:

    So are we signing up Pep in some capacity this summer?

    :lol:

  87. UNITED4Life says:

    Obviously we play mix of the two..and i like that too. but to cheer on displays like the chelsea one over barca is what i can’t understand as a United fan.

  88. MG says:

    I got it.

    Van Gaal and Cryuff to fight it out as Barca managers.

    :lol:

  89. Albert Ross says:

    Lost your Pep? Too much silver at the top?

    Try the all-new Benitez – No more silver shadow at your club, and that’s a fact.

  90. MG says:

    Roberto Di Matteo as Barca manager?

    :lol:

  91. MG says:

    smartalex, or that’s what I’ll be calling you if you don’t mind Señor Albert Ross

    :lol:

    All New Benitez – is come with how many years warranty?

    :lol:

  92. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Leave Pep alone !

    For Gods sake, the man is a Barca fan and legend, everything he does is in their interest, if he quits, he’s done it in foresight that he doesn’t personally bring his boyhood club down.
    If teats called bottling it, then more manager should follow suit, seems like a dignified exit for a man that’s won every thing with his club.

    Anyways ;)
    Looks like Jose missed out another CL cup, don’t see him giving up on Madrid till he wins it or gets fired.

    4 days till the derby :D

  93. Albert Ross says:

    Pep’s ticka tacka got you all peptic?

    Try swallowing a little bulldog shit, it has the power of 10 men.

  94. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Well done young reds!

  95. Costas says:

    I hope it’s not Blanc that replaces him. If he comes good, that would rule him out of the United job in the immediate future.

    Barca should brinbg back Rijkard. :P

  96. MG says:

    Papii

    4 days until:

    The Dark Knight Rises

    In our case The Red Devil rises

    :lol:

  97. Mikekelly12 says:

    Pep coming to United to replace Jones… He’s shit!! Is he not??!

  98. parryheid says:

    If Guardiola is chucking it at Barca then we should nab him pronto he would be great for United.

  99. MG says:

    I personally think we should get Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog to take over United.

    Imagine the fun!

    Animal as assistant – beat that Mike!

    :lol:

  100. Albert Ross says:

    Brand Benitez has a factual warranty, meltdowns are guaranteed, zonal marking being a fine-print prerequisite of his esteemed Rafaship. The warranty is a 5 year sentence for the club, and is usually invoked in the first season.

  101. MG says:

    Fozzy Bear as Rene

    :lol:

  102. UNITED4Life says:

    i am not worried about the derby..come on United. it is city after all..that 1-6 result created a false impression in people’s minde that they will beat us come monday..for me that was just one bad game for us. sure they have strong squad but so do we ( their CM stength will be neautralized by our brilliant wing pla).

    i expect a United win or a draw..also the pressure is all on them to win to stand any chance and i feel that suits us to play on the counter.

  103. MG says:

    Gonzo as Head of Manchester United Medical Department

    :lol:

  104. WillieRedNut says:

    Fuck off Pep fan boys! :P As for style? United haven’t done too badly with the Godfather in charge!

  105. MG says:

    Thanks smartalex ;) My dear old friend reinvented :D

  106. MG says:

    Willie

    Which version Brando or Pacino or De Niro?

    :lol:

  107. MG says:

    As long as me and Costas can still have our world famous kebab outlet at OT it will be okay.

    Especially that Statler and Waldorf will be running the club instead of the Glazers

    :lol:

  108. Albert Ross says:

    MG, what will Smartalex think when he comes back and his username is being used to address an albatross? He might say aaaaaaak!

  109. Mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    Barry White and Celine Dion will have us conquering Europe once again!!

  110. Costas says:

    His style was also determined by having Messi in his team. Not sure how he would cope without him in his team.

  111. WillieRedNut says:

    MG – All 3! ;)

  112. MG says:

    Albert smartalex TM Ross

    He’ll probably start writing like an idiot and start swearing at which point he’ll probably start shooting some nonsense about how his parents left him as a kid and how he had to grow up becoming a multiple username hero to defend his achilles heal.

    :lol:

    Or he might just say aaaaaak!

    Mike

    :lol:

    Truly our heart will go on :lol:

    Evening Mike ;)

  113. WillieRedNut says:

    Early team news has came through? No Keane, or Stam for Monday. :sad:

  114. UNITED4Life says:

    @ Costas. true but look how creative players like Di maria/ ozil are forced to play defence by a manager..i don’t think it is all about messi, pep contributed big time for thier display..imagine messi under jose..will he play like he has been playing for pas few years?

  115. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Evening all

    Not long left Monday is so big its untrue. It’s by far the biggest domestic game I have ever known. Derby day title day decider….I’m sadistic I fucking love it

  116. WillieRedNut says:

    HBO are to do a documentary style show at Liverpool? Behind the scenes? :shock: Dalglish will love that… ;)

  117. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    MG

    :lol: Red Devil Rises 8) I have a feeling we’ll win at Emptyhad, “I am more confidents ” as Ronnie would say.

    Jones is so shit, Madrid and Barcelona avoided winning medals because it might have attracted his interest.

    :P

  118. parryheid says:

    WillieRedNut.

    Why don’t you Fuck off prat.You don’t fancy Guardiola ? Your prerogative, I do and if that makes me a fan boy then so be it just don’t presume to decide my like’s for me.

  119. Mikekelly12 says:

    Clint
    Just don’t know how we can get rid of him now. Maybe use him as a Stan Luarel tribute act !

  120. WillieRedNut says:

    parryheid – I love it when you talk dirty? For the record, I wasn’t referring to anyone. I’d rather have DDG as manager, than Peppy!

  121. Costas says:

    @UNITED4Life

    To answer that question, you could also look at the seasons Ronaldo had under him. He hasn’t sacrificed any of his attacking duties. Or the amount of goals Real have scored this season. More than Barcelona I believe.

    Not saying Guardiola’s success was just because of Messi, but imo people don’t take some parameters into consideration when they suggest him as a future United manager. The fact that he had the luxury of having a Messi in his team was one of them. Another is the fact that he’s never been tested as a manager outside La Liga. Maybe that’s where he’s best suited.

  122. Albert Ross says:

    Pep! goes the weasel.

  123. Albert Ross says:

    Poop Guardiola has been flushed.

  124. wayne says:

    Listening to talksport Pep is taking time off to spend with his family,might move to London so he can study the prem
    My guess he’s going to take time off then apply for the Utd job when Sir Alex retires

  125. Albert Ross says:

    Pep Guacamole in a mexican stand-off with Barca and Messi.
    Does he have the sauce to go with his salad?

  126. UNITED4Life says:

    @Costas well he needs some one to score goals but he is not the kind of manager who allow players to express their talen like pep does. On the experiance argument, jose has done it in three countries but the teams he lead to trophy are well placed interms of resources to win (roman’s chelsea, inter where vertually no competor and now madrid with all these players) i haven’t seen jose building teams like does.

  127. wayne says:

    Apparantly Barca offered him a blank cheque but still wasn’t interested so its not a money thing which in my books rules out Rent boys or City

  128. Albert Ross says:

    The only team that even vaguely qualifies as having been built by Pep, is the one that is losing right now.

  129. UNITED4Life says:

    @Albert Ross

    r u big fan of Tony Pulis or Alex Mcleish then?

  130. parryheid says:

    Okay then you Anti’s there are two managers head and shoulders above everybody else,the other is Mourinho.Our manager is at the end of the road and is an admirer of Guardiola and Guardiola is an admirer of United.is he too successful for your fancy,or why don’t you just tell us who you think is better than him considering he has fucked Mourinho from pillar to post year in year out.What makes you think he hasn’t made a decision to leave based on our managers upcoming retirement ?

  131. Albert Ross says:

    For me it’s simple. I’ve had Pep, Messi and Barca shoved down my throat every time I drew breath for the last 3 odd years. I’m regurgitating.

  132. Costas says:

    @parry

    Our manager has also fancied Mourinho as his succesor. And out of the two, I would go with him. Not because he got the upper hand on Guardiola this season. Or because he got the best of him in previous seasons (Ch.League in 2010, Copa Del Rey in 2011). I think he’s more suited for the job. Guardiola hasn’t been tested outside Spain. And personally, I wouldn’t want any manager at United that wouldn’t commit for more than a year.

    But it’s not just about Mourinho and Guardiola. There are other managers out there that could be on our list. Like Blanc. Or Ole. Or whoever else might pop up in years to come. Who knows what the managerial scene will be like when Ferguson finally retires?

  133. parryheid says:

    Albert Ross.

    That is not an answer.Who is better than him ?Because I would rather United had the best.

  134. Costas says:

    Well, looks like Bilbao have done it. Lets see if we were knocked out by the eventual winners.

  135. Albert Ross says:

    UNITED4Life

    Alex Mcleish? Is he still playing for Aberdeen? Do you think he will want to come south?

    Tony Pulis – No shit hey? Absolutely pooless?

    I’m not looking for a new Manager at the moment, I’m happy with the one I’ve got.
    If every team chose their next manager 3 years in advance, there would be waiting lists.

    In today’s news, Wolves have signed Harry Rednapp to take over from Alan Pardew, who will be starting his reign as soon as Gareth Southgate has joined the club and resigned.

    We’ve been replacing Fergie for over 10 years. Being on the list of likely successors is hardly a unique experience, as any Manager that has done really well for two or more successive games has been linked with the post.

    Having a current favourite to succeed Sir Alex has never even crossed my mind.
    Like I say, I’m happy with the Manager I’ve got.

  136. Mikekelly12 says:

    Fergie out, Fergie out!!
    Get Bielte in from Athletic Bilbao before Barca snap him up! Have to ditch Fergie now or we will lose out on him!!!

  137. CedarsDevil says:

    Evening fuck rats

  138. WillieRedNut says:

    I’m anti no one. It’s an opinion. Don’t fear someones thoughts with petty insults. Makes you seem like a plum! Instead, ponder on this perspective? If he’s walking away from the pressure of managing his boyhood club, why would he suddenly be considered for the unenviable task of succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson? And all that entails? As for Mourinho, he’s proved his credentials by managing different clubs in different leagues, and being hugely successful in the process! I don’t want the self proclaimed special one anymore, but he would probably be ahead of Pep in the pecking order. My clear number one man for the job would be Blanc, with Ole as number two. If we go British, then Moyes would come into the reckoning. Not denying Pep’s CV. He’s been a very good manager. Just not my pick, though. The Glazers might think differently. Who the fuck knows!

  139. CedarsDevil says:

    Only reasonable replacement for Sir Alex in 15 years time will be Avram Grant

  140. ahjs says:

    “Get Bielte in from Athletic Bilbao before Barca snap him up”

    Heh. I would take one or two of their players though.

    Guardiola’s obviously achieved a lot and is a very good, potentially great, manager but his transfer record would be cause for concern and he doesn’t seem to believe in big squads (the Barca squad is very small compared to others). I suppose we wont know if he’ll ever be a success elsewhere till he tries.

    What if it was to be Pep or Mourinho? Before people have a dig, it’s just a hypothetical question.

  141. Costas says:

    It could always be Luiz Felipe Scolari..

  142. CedarsDevil says:

    If it was up to King Eric he would go for Alan Pardew

  143. MG says:

    Who’s this Bielte?

    :lol:

    Lovely glass of milk :lol: Costas will get it :lol:

  144. CedarsDevil says:

    If it was up to me I would go for Julio Iglesias, he would sing us to victory

  145. MG says:

    Personally I think we should go for Arry

    One more FA cup win in his lifetime shall be enough

    :lol:

  146. Albert Ross says:

    parryheid

    I find it difficult to be serious when trying to fix what ain’t broke, if you get my drift.

    I suppose we could discuss different managers hypothetically taking over at United, and what their merits or drawbacks might be. We could only do that with some realism if we chose a time frame. There is a lot to consider, and it feels likely that it will all be rendered nonsensical with time, as it has done so many times before.

    As a starting point, one could say that United will plan a successor.
    A – Planned Successor is recruited, or
    B – Temporary Manager appointed due to circumstance.

    There is no C that I can think of that is likely.

    A temporary Manager only delays the inevitable, so we are talking about a planned successor.

    Pep unlikely to have been seriously considered before today, he would be at Barca. Now he has more chance of being a stop-gap at United should Fergie retire soon, than a planned successor.

    Of course he comes into the longer term equation now, as he might be an option once his long relationship with Barca is terminated. Can he take over successfully in 3 years time?

    On that, off the cuff opinion is all one can offer, with Pep’s brief cameo in management.

    My guess?
    No, he doesn’t have what it takes, and will not make any short-lists for planned succession.

  147. MG says:

    Failing that we can always wait for Jenna Jameson

    :lol:

  148. MG says:

    Go smartalex go!

    :lol:

  149. parryheid says:

    What gives you the impression he is thinking of walking away due to pressure?Mourinho has never mastered Guardiola in his puff the special one has been made to look less than ordinary imo.So much for his credentials,I also don’t think too much of the alternatives you are suggesting as for not liking the man well Liverpool and others don’t think too highly of Sir Alex which worries us not a jot.As for our managers tenure who knows what he may have already decided and therefore a possible reason for walking away ie not pressure,and exactly who the fuck knows.

  150. CedarsDevil says:

    Is Count Dracula a free agent again? He would be a bloody good candidate

  151. CedarsDevil says:

    I like this new fella Albert Ross, he has a nice way with words, reminds me of someone who used to post here whom I admired greatly

  152. MG says:

    Cedars

    Frankenstein and Werewolf as assistants?

    :lol:

  153. wayne says:

    If ‘Arry became manager that would be a fucking nightmare I want Moyes to get the chance,I know his name isn’t ‘big’ enough for some fans unless Sir Alex gets sick its all irrelevant anyway,he’s going no where

  154. CedarsDevil says:

    MG

    Perfect! That threesome would take mind games to a new level!!

  155. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Former red Owen Hargreaves to be released by City after 4 games. Harsh??????

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Oi me!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/26/owen-hargreaves-manchester-city

  156. Dave Malaysia says:

    Dear Alex Ferguson,

    How are you? I hope ur healthy, happy and yr family doing well. God Bless.

    You are the main reason I came to love Manchester United. I am in awe of you.

    Open University course on life ,following you, extraordinary human being, belonging to a select group of people over the centuries who have made such an impact.

    Many may laugh at my words,dramatic they may say. I am not interested in typing up all the extraordinary things u have done and lives u have touched and influenced.

    The only thing that need be said is this. There are many succesful leaders in sport over the years but few have had the staying power and ability to continue to learn and grow and change like u have.

    Many have known when to quit, many more forced to quit , few continue to amaze.

    You are definately not perfect.

    On Sunday I was so angry with you, felt so low,wanted to smash something.

    Back of my head , just kept popping up , ‘ be calm, dont say anything u r going to regret’.

    Nothing wrong with yr team selection or formation or tactics.

    But when felani was causing us so much problems and we we struggling defensively , WHY didnt u get off yr fat ass and fix it?

    Are u keeping Smalling.Park and the others fresh for next year?

    U did it before , against aston villa ,villa park, bringing on Smalling to shore up our midfeild,he did well. He cud have come on to neutralize felani ,cover our defence.

    Whatever the solution , u shud have done something.

    I still love you man, my Guru.

    If there ever was a manager, a team, a club, and a bunch of nutters supporters, that can go to the ethihad (named after us) and win then its us ,Manchester United.

    If u pick the right team and the right formation and tactics and our boys are up for it, with luck we will win.

    By the way we dont do arrogance, as some people are saying of us, its not complacency either.
    Experience we may be , the pressure got to us.

    Its happened before.

    U have made mistakes against barca .twice. U tried to play them at thie own game and failed.
    U tried against arsenal last year and failed.
    U tried against shitty last year and we bombed.

    With all due respect to Phelan who runs the team for u and Rene who is the tactics man.
    We need a Carlos kind of person in the team.

    U hired Carlos to help transform the United football system, he did it, u praised it for it.

    I actually praise u for continiuosly learning,changing and bringing newer ways to do things.

    Take arsenal and the so called professor ,who has stagnated and gone backwards, for example.
    Something we have avoided so far becos of you.

    Not that most get it , they prefer to think its the money and referees that win us things.

    If a few changes is what u need then great but it looks like in key games , u need help to increase the chances of us winning.

    Hope u get a carlos like person to help the team.

    God Bless all of us of the Manchester United Family.

    Let those of us who beleive in the power of prayer, start with forgiveness, gratitude,guidance , protection of us and our Families. Manchester Uinted.

  157. Dave Malaysia says:

    Walter Mitty, how is yr owner? Sawubona?

  158. parryheid says:

    Albert Ross.
    I also am extremely happy with our current manager but I am realist enough to know his time is finite.And United will plan his successor,what if that is currently happening and his successor is clearing the decks his end?Why would United appoint an Temporary manager I think they would be more farsighted than that but time will tell.I just happen to think we should nab him.

  159. WillieRedNut says:

    His credentials at Chelsea, Inter and Porto, speak for themselves. He might be a prick, but he’s a successful prick! Not really relevant the head to head meetings between the pair in La Liga. That isn’t a factor on why we should consider Pep as next United manager. Not imo anyway. You obviously think we should be appointing the best manager available? I was of that opinion a year back. Since then, I’ve changed my stance. I think Blanc has the capacity to step up to the plate, and manage a big club. Fergie thinks highly of him too. He had a 2 year spell at the club, which is an important factor. Mourinho and Pep would be most peoples choice to take over from Fergie. I get the feeling, the club might have a surprise in store. Time will tell…

  160. Albert Ross says:

    parryheid

    Guillem Balague said that Pep has claimed he is feeling the pressure and needs a break. He is a journalist, and so it means little until confirmation comes after tomorrow’s announcement on Pep’s future.

  161. Bingo2 says:

    Barca fan: messi is a great player united fan: he is overrated. He does well at barca because of xavi and iniesta.see how he underperforms for argentina. barca fan: O.K then xavi and iniesta are great players united fan: they are overrated.all they do is give short passes, mostly sideways.they can’t shoot from afar. They will be found out if they join another team. Barca fan: O.K then the coach who handles all these not-so-great players and has won several trophies with them must be a great coach united fan: pep is overrated. He is only winning because he has players like messi, xavi and iniesta in his team. Guys.guys.guys you can’t have it both ways. either messi is great and pep is overrated or pep is great and messi is overrated. Both can’t be overrated.

  162. Albert Ross says:

    parryheid

    Agreed that SAF’s time is finite, and that his successor is being planned.
    A temporary manager would happen if timing didn’t match our planned successor’s arrival.
    Hopefully that will not be forced on us by some quirk of fate.

    Your clearing-of-the-decks scenario stands scrutiny, if it has been agreed that Pep is joining us in a year’s time (or probably sooner.) I think and hope that we have not yet reached Fergie’s penultimate season.

    When you say we should nab him, do you mean now?

  163. Dave Malaysia says:

    @parryheid: U are right about our club. They are prepared,thats how they operate,cos they know soon maybe in a couple of years time our boss will retire.

    I know many may cringe ,swim all the way to Manchester to slap this person or others .

    But Mourinho ,I believe is top of the list.

    When the club prepared the documents for the bond issue, they had by law , explain to potential bond holders , the risks and worst case scenarios that may happen..

    One of the worrys was when Fergie retired.When I read the stuff, realised just how important
    Fergie is financially to the club, considering our current situation.

    If the spore stock listing goes ahead this year , we pay off our debts, it wud no longer be such a worry
    financially.

    If the club hired someone like Blanc,Ole or Moyes, u will honestly have to say they are potentialy going to do well , win trophys for us.

    However, only Mourinho has more than potential, not gurranteed but a almost sure chance of winning the league ,champions league for us.

    And lastly , many might not agree, he actually has improved as a person. Maturity, less arrogance.

  164. MG says:

    Cedars

    OT Theatre of Dreams :lol:

    After Dracula Frankenstein and Werewolf finish with the opposition we’ll be onto a clear winner

    :lol:

    Sir Christopher Lee time to go Back to the future :lol:

    DM

    ;)

    Gday mate :D

    Fletch :lol:

    Hargreaves – Did he play 40 games?

    :lol:

  165. Whiteside says:

    Can’t have it both ways? Just what my missus says. )-:

  166. Albert Ross says:

    Pep, Messi and Barca are regularly rated as the greatest ever, after a few years at the top.

    They are all overrated.

  167. parryheid says:

    WillieRedNut/Albert Ross

    Look I posted that I think we should nab Guardiola if he is chucking Barca,that is pretty straightforward.Both yourselves have a different view,that I am more than happy to live with as you at least have a view what gives me nipple rash is the clowns with plenty to say but No view,and I’m sorry but I cant be up all night going over the same ground repeatedly.

  168. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Breaking
    James Ducker ‏ @DuckerTheTimes
    United are sweating on the fitness of Jonny Evans for the derby. He’s not trained all week. Will post story am #MUFC

  169. Dave Malaysia says:

    @MG: Goodday mate. Hows Hayley?

    @Whiteside: Hope u get to convince this missus lady to try new things, explore and all that, u can always have it any way u want!

  170. MG says:

    Any chance for three ways?

    Sounds fun that in a three sort of way.

    :lol:

  171. WillieRedNut says:

    Mr Kipling’s French fancies are vastly overrated.

  172. WillieRedNut says:

    parryheid – I’ll debate anything, with anyone! On this occasion though, we’ll agree to disagree?

  173. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Williered nutts: If i remember correctly , u got all the predictions right about our Aston Villa gamme.

    Impressive.

    What did u predict for the everton game and wahts in store this Monday?

    @parryheid: Use Aiken powder for that nipple rash. I heard getting yr partner to rub it with oil and nibbling at it after a few days might help. Then all u need is to just get it sucked,dont leave it hanging.

  174. Costas says:

    @Willie

    Also, lets not forget that Sir Alex has a worse record than Mourinho in their head to head clashes. Doesn’t make him a worse manager though.

  175. Whiteside says:

    Ooh nothing overrated about a french fancy.

  176. MG says:

    DM

    Oh fine mate thanks for asking – how’s your Hayley poster on the wall? :lol:

    Nice to have you back again!

  177. MG says:

    I prefer a Victoria sponge

    :lol:

  178. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Costas: Some managers have that record. But it seems given the right time Fergie always overcomes them.

    He has overturned both mour and ancelloti in recent times.

  179. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Pep wonderful time in charge but really disappointed that he has his first tough test and then quits…

    Is that what we want at united?

  180. Dave Malaysia says:

    @MG: Good to hear. Were u not having a pickle of a problem? solved?

    hey, what poster? Its actually in a thumbdrive, THE picture of U know Who.

  181. MG says:

    DM

    Solved my friend

    ;)

    :lol: Yeah I know of who lol :D

  182. Albert Ross says:

    parryheid – I have that same gripe often.

    I made a comment recently that Messi was overrated, and should only be rated as number 2 in the world, not number 1. This was widely contested, which is fine. It also drew sarcastic jeers and ridicule. Of course, when I logically explained my view there was nothing to be heard from that peanut gallery. It was the same with the Beckham discussion. People attack your views with scorn, but don’t reply when you amicably debunk their twaddle. To me, they are cowards that join a mob and throw stones from the back; not head-strong individuals with real input, considered views and a desire to learn while teaching.

    I have noticed that you don’t like the snippy little snipers, and I understand.

  183. Costas says:

    @Dave

    Yeah I know mate. I was just referring to what willie brought up at 22:42 about Mourinho and Guardiola’s head to head record.

  184. WillieRedNut says:

    Costas – That’s true. Mourinho’s record against Fergie was brilliant. Fergie only had one win, I think?

    @Dave Malaysia

    Long time mate? I got the Villa score spot on, but flunked the Everton game! I’m making no predictions for the derby pal. Suffice to say, it will be tight and very tense! :)

  185. MG says:

    Okay failing everything we can always have The Avengers Assemble as United managers.

    Scarlet Johansen in tight fitting leather clad one piece on the touchline as assistant?

    Oh yesh!

    :lol:

  186. MG says:

    Just when the opposition is about to score…

    HULK SMASH!

    :lol:

  187. Sparkz says:

    Apparently Jonny Evans hasn’t trained all week and is a doubt for the game vs City….

  188. Costas says:

    @willie

    If you count his Porto and Inter tenures, I believe it was 2 wins for Fergie, 6 draws and 6 wins for Mourinho.

  189. King Eric says:

    Aww poor Pep has pressure. Fucking pressure my arse in a two bob league with three of the greatest players under his employment. Fergie has dealt with pressure for thirty or forty years. Yes Pep may have played for years and managed the B team but hardly the pressure Fergie has dealt with over the years. Seems odd he is taking a break after a fruitless season. Fuck me I could have managed that current Barca side. Look at his choice of defenders. Mascherano? He is a fucking midfielder. No width. Dogshit signings in Ibrahimovic. Selling Eto’o who they could have done with recently. Chargrinsky or whatever his fucking name was. Buys Sanchez a winger but rarely plays wide. No plan b. Have a fucking shot you cunts!! Yes he has three titles and two european cups which is very good but they should never have been in Rome. The Fat Spanish waiter has won two titles with Valencia. ALL his onus goes on possession football which is great when it pays off but as witnessed in recent weeks it has counted for nothing. Managing United and managing Barca are two very different animals altogether. He is a decent manager but like I say not too difficult when he has those players at his disposal. Showed his class under pressure the other night by flouncing out of a press conference. He is alright but I aint gonna feel sorry for him. Pressure my fucking arse.

  190. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Willierednut: Tight.tense?? First night?

    @Sparkz:Jonny s ok , me thinks. If he is not Smalling will do well.

  191. Costas says:

    @Sparkz

    Really? That would be a big blow. Didn’t seem injured against Everton. Seems like Ferdinand and Smalling might have to play together at the Etihad like they did in the cup.

  192. WillieRedNut says:

    Evans out is a blow, but Smalling is hardly a poor deputy. ;) His extra pace might come in handy. Especially were Aguero is concerned.

  193. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Costas, KingEric,
    Are you lads hearing this about Jonny Evans not training this week? How close is Smalling to being fit?
    Maybe Jones and Rio then?

  194. Dave Malaysia says:

    @King Eric: Agreed.

    But for the other thing, just pull it out, yr arse will feel better.

  195. Costas says:

    @Fletch

    Hadn’t heard anything about it until Sparkz brought it up. Hope he will start training tomorrow and get fit for Monday. Otherwise, I think Smalling will start. He should be up for it. Fergie won’t speak to the press ahead of the derby, so we will only for sure on Monday night.

  196. Sparkz says:

    I wouldn’t normally have a problem with Smalling, I’m a big fan of his. But I’m not 100% sure about his partnership with Rio. I know there were extenuating circumstances, but the last 5 goals we let in in the 1-6 were with those two at centre back. And even in the FA Cup game, Smalling was fantastic (man of the match for me) – but Rio looked a bit shaky alongside him IMO. Can’t remember them playing too many games together if I’m honest, last season Smalling played mostly alongside Vidic.

    Evans isn’t as talented, but its about partnerships and combinations (same reason Hernandez replaced Berba last season). And Evans’ combination with Rio is the best we’ve got. Even back in September/October – when they played together we looked quite solid. Probably why, after Vidic got injured, Fergie chose Evans to replace him instead of Smalling.

  197. Albert Ross says:

    Tears pitter from the bitter quitter now that Messi did fritter a sitter.
    We titter as the critter gets the jitter, and the glitter on twitter turns to litter.

  198. MG says:

    Manchester United

    It’s time to go, I bid you goodnight and words of wisdom

    If they are coming after you firing at you from all sides – then all you have to do is to wait till they are out of ammunition and attack them with everything you have got.

    Right on cue for Monday United

    19

  199. WillieRedNut says:

    Smalling would come in and perform with Rio without any fuss. That’s why they’re at United. No point of them being at the club, if they can’t be called upon. I get the point about partnerships, but it shouldn’t be a problem. I’m sure the work has already begun, just in case Evans doesn’t make it for Monday.

  200. Goforpep says:

    1.Pep beat SAF twice in champions league finals. The second victory over SAF showed that the first was not a fluke. Barca could have scored 6 that day. 2. No coach in portugal,england, italy has been able to beat mourinho by more than a 3 goal margin. Pep beat him by 5 nil and has the best head to head record against the special one.. 3.barca have always had fantastic players in their history,including maradona and cruyff, but no manager was able to win the number of trophies pep has won in 4years. I know many united fans hate him for obvious reasons but the guy deserves some credit. It might interest you to know that when he came to barca they had gone 2 seasons without a single trophy and had finished in 3rd place behind madrid and villareal in 2008. If it’s the players who win him the trophies why were they having trophyless seasons until he came. Pep for united.

  201. Sparkz says:

    @Willie – hope you’re right mate! And someone did make a good point about Smalling’s extra pace.

  202. Costas says:

    Ferdinand and Smalling wouldn’t be my ideal partnership either. Both are more accustomed to the sweeper role in defence. But if Evans isn’t 100%, there’s not much choice left. Smalling will have to play.

    I think Rio and Smalling have only started 2 games together. Rangers at home and City at the Etihad.

  203. King Eric says:

    Dave. Hello mate. Good to see you. Ha. I have pulled it out of my arse. In fact and not that anyone will be remotely interested it seems I AM actually developing a boil or spot up my arse. Its fucking painful. Nooo. Not Jose. Aint long back he poked some cunt in the eye. He will never develop class. He doesn’t do that. He was his usual arrogant self last night gesticulating all the game. Yes he is successful bit for me it takes more than that to manage United mate. Its all about him the narcissistic prick. Same old arguments keep coming back to me. He bought Sahin and Canales. Where are they now. Brings fuck all youth through. The only time I would accept him is if was to stay for a few good years. Not just win a pot or two then up sticks to his next project. I can never accept him. I just dislike the cunt. Get Pardew or Curbishley in.

    As for Evans is that even true considering United have trained behind closed doors all week? More twatter bollocks?

    Heard some amusing transfer rumours today. We are after that prick Alvez for 28 million. Yes of course we are gonna be able to spend that amount on a cunt who can’t even defend. Fuck me. Where do they get this shit from? Best one though was tennis ball head baby like looking cunt Pepe. Do me a fucking favour.

    IF Evans is out I personally have no problem with Smalling playing. He is a damn good centre back. Its just his lack of game time that would be a concern.

    Giggs12. Alright pal. How goes? I agree. Smacks to me first sign of trouble and he bails.

  204. xol says:

    I agree it would be useful to see how Pep would do at another Club, but I also remember this needing a break thing happening before – possibly last time he renegotiated his contract! Who knoiiws, there may be truth in the stories of him feeling restricted by that club’s structure. He’s spoke before about Sir Alex’s comparative freedom to run the Club how he wishes, as if he’s envious. I don’t think he’s to blame for Tiki taki though, he inherited the team and was probably installed by the powers that be to play a Yes Man role. If the interference is what bugs him, then I don’t blame him for wanting out. Who knows, perhaps he had a plan B against Chelsea that he wasn’t able to use because the Club is up it’s own arse! And if he’s just leaving because he’s a slacker, fucking good on him. There’s more to life than money.

  205. WillieRedNut says:

    Sparkz – Believe me mate, I wasn’t pissing on your point lol. It’s actually a good point. Partnerships are crucial between players. Particularly central defenders. Rio and Jonny have a good run of late. I still think Smalling can come in and do a job for us. What a game for him, though!

  206. Dandivine7 says:

    I’m fine with Smalling pairing Rio on Monday, its the right back area I’m looking at. Either Jones or Fabio as Fabio is more aware defensively than Rafael. Rafael will give You impetus going forward but for Monday, its about keeping shape and hitting city on the break. I reckon We’ll be fine no doubt

  207. Dandivine7 says:

    Hearing (unconfirmed) that the media want to release a story of a United player involved in sex stuff on Monday. Its still rumour but if that is true, tells You so much of the kind of media that operates in England.

  208. Dandivine7 says:

    King Eric,did You just say Pardew or Curbishley? For The United Job?

  209. NBI Red Onion says:

    In fairness to Pep, who wouldn’t be bored of 4 years of watching tikka taka now and a 2 horse race league. He needs a fresh challenge, he will thrive on it and he knows it. For me he is still in contention. He did not wimp out, he never saw Barca as a long term job, he always had a rolling contract. He always wanted something different. A break. Then he’ll be ready in a new league, a proper competitive league where his genius can be revealed such as it is. Then we will see.

  210. NBI Red Onion says:

    Pep, come work with SAF and sort out our MF possession problems. Pep and SAF together – wow.

  211. NBI Red Onion says:

    SAF gave a Pep talk.

  212. Sparkz says:

    I like Guardiola’s mentality – likes good, winning football, and believes in youth.
    But he hasn’t proved much tbh. Even if he’d won the Double this year, I’d still have my doubts about him. I think its a bit of an insult when people say he’s one of the great coaches of the last 20 years, its an insult to the other people in that category.

    Coz he’s inherited what was already a good side, and just neede3d that final push. A side who had key players about to come into their prime. Hasn’t built them. The spine of this side is not his. Valdes, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. All inherited. The Barca “way of playing” was not down to him….it was down to Johan Cryuff, who implements it in their Academy.

    Don’t get me wrong, Guardiola’s done well there…and he hasn’t been a passenger. Definitely tinkered with them a bit. But a lot of the work was done for him.

    Consider this – Barca have gone for big names like Louis Van Gaal and Sir Bobby Robson before. All of a sudden they go for a 36 year old with virtually no experience? Don’t you think that’s a bit odd?

    IMO, the reason for that was that they knew they had a great side in the making. The way of playing was already ingrained. The key players were already there. Plus you had the jewel in the crown – Messi. They didn’t want an outsider to come and change stuff by stamping his mark on the side (i.e. Villas Boas). They wanted someone from within who wouldn’t tinker much, someone who’d keep things going the way it is.

    That’s my opinion anyway..

  213. NBI Red Onion says:

    @ Sparkz – but don’t you agree it’s about being good enough to get the max out of each player and the team as a whole – see Villa Boas v Di Matteo. Same team. Different young managers. Different results. Different mentality.

    Pep has fostered a real fraternity at Barca and really bought out the max potential in some players that are not that great as well. He has also made some interesting tactical decisions – playing Mascerano in defence, his whole approach is that of someone who loves good attacking football, a control freak like SAF, a winner who hates losing, a thinker. Yes Barca were really really good, but he helped make them great. He man managed pretty well. It is good he loses now so he can think over his strategy and adapt. I think he is a very smart guy.

  214. Sparkz says:

    @NBI – Yeah I would definitely agree with that. There’s no doubt he has POTENTIAL to be a great manager. But he’s not yet, for the reason I gave in my last post.

    For me to class him as a great manager – he’d either have to do what Mourinho or Capello have done (go to a few different clubs and get instant success)…….or what Fergie has done (stay at Barca, knock that team down, build another one).

    At the moment (and I stress its AT THE MOMENT) – he’s done neither. He’s come into what was already a very good side, tinkered a bit, and done the business. To replace Fergie, you need a bit more.

    That’s why him leaving Barca might be a good thing. Go somewhere like, I dunno, Inter Milan. And see if you can have success there. If he does, then I’d gladly welcome him.

    For the record – I don’t want Mourinho anywhere near this club, I’ve said this many times.

  215. NBI Red Onion says:

    @ Sparkz – totally agree with you re Maureen – can’t stand the guy! He is a cold fish. His ideal b-day present would be a full length mirror. Give me a 70 yr old good old emotional driven genuine Scot any day.

    Yeah – proof of the pudding is in the eating, will be interesting to see how Pep does at another Club with players that are not as talented as some of his Barca players. In particular, can he adjust his style and tactics to the players he has. To be seen…Arsenal may be his natural home in England. But I would be excited if he was coming to United.

    I would also love to see Nev have a go at managing, he is hot shit as a commentator and his tactical nous is there for all to se. Come on Gaz!

  216. Albert Ross says:

    This may have been mentioned by dejavu davey. I’m not a Pep-hater or Pep-lover.
    I’m a dyspeptic-Pep-sceptic.

  217. Sparkz says:

    Its not even so much the way he acts. But the guy doesn’t believe in youth. For a United manager, that just won’t fly. That’s one of the many reasons I don’t want Mourinho.

  218. torontored says:

    Sir Alex – thanks a fucking million – the heart would be fucking done if not for a constant diet of sardines on toast (omega 3)

    have now installed nurses and defribrillators (skirt length 8″ above the knee + stockings and high heels) in every room for Monday

    Dead right you don’t make it asy – but Monday will sure as fuck be as good as we’ve ever seen it get

    FFS do not repeat 68

    UNITED20 – 2012

  219. bobkoh says:

    1-0 or 2-1 is ok, don’t go chasing for another goal, God! I can’t stand money grabbers at shitty being interviewed after this. That baxtaxd vieira is something like crap.

  220. WeAreUnited says:

    IMAGINE PEOPLE, Guardiola coming to this team and bringing the great MESSI . it would be crazy.

    and don’t start acting crazy people, my choices for our coach would be baby face OLE, Ginger Scholes or Giggsy the legend,

    All have the quality for keeping our club as an attractive and attacking playing football team, as we are.

    But Messi here would be crazy hahahah. peace.

  221. Marq says:

    Don’t get us wrong. We are not hating Pep or his team. It is just that his success was primarily down to the trio of Messi, Xavi & Inesta. When was the last time in history that a team had 3 of the top 5 players in the world all in their prime and complements each other? Until Pep proves he can do it with other teams, he will always be below the likes of Mourinho in terms of choice to replace Sir Alex.

    The other reason we do not rate Barca is because of their antics. Diving to win freekicks & penalties are already ugly to watch, and Sir Alex actually have got our players to cut it out. What some Barca players have done is down right disgusting. Go watch the recent match Real vs Barca, see how Alves went down like he was shot. What have Pep done? Nothing, he gave them permission to do it!

  222. Jeet says:

    @Marq: You put it well. Well, to be absolutely honest, I do hate Barca for the thrashing they dealt out to us, but deep down I know that’s not the right attitude to take. More to the point, 3 big reasons why I don’t rate Pep all that much:

    1. Don’t see him building a team that’s greater than the parts. Incredible talent at his disposal, but has he really done it with a team that’s not so superbly endowed with star quality? Do you think Ole couldn’t have achieved as much with that sort of talent at his disposal? Contrast to Mourinho’s Inter team – Stankovic, Milito, Lucio, Samuel, past-their-best Zanetti and Cambiaso – good, solid players, but hardly best in the world, eh? Definitely “sum greater than parts”

    2. Tactics and transfers: No Plan B ever. Contrary to popular belief, there IS a way to stifle Barca and they are yet to show they can deal with it. Despite the wankfest, I do believe they have been incredibly lucky with the “fucking disgrace” against Chelsea and the Van Persie red card, not to mention the chance that only Bendner could miss. Eto for Ibra? WTF was that?

    3. Mentality – Like I said, they don’t have a Plan B, and they can dish it out but they can never take it. Diving, card-begging antics. 70 minutes, one down, and the theatrics commence in full flow. Busquet’s winkgate? Again, contrary to popular belief, if Pep REALLY had so much class, he would have put an end to it. You seriously want such a mentality in OT?

    So, he may well have got fantastic results with the Barca team, but in my eyes, he’s still got a long way to go to prove that he can step into Fergie’s shoes. Not that Mourinho is my top choice, but if we go for direct comparisons between the 2, keeping the succession issue out of the picture, its the Portuguese every fucking day. In my eyes, they are both tosspots, just that Pep is a bit more subtle about it, but Mourinho has achieved more, and in vastly different circumstances.

  223. Jeet says:

    3 more days to go…

    Luckily it’s my wife’s b’day this sunday, so i’ll be distracted over the weekend. Taking an off on Monday to have a daytime party with a friend who’s dropping in. He’s a Red, but flies back in the evening, which is good cos we tend to get the best results when I watch the match all by myself with total focus.

    Fuck me, this wait is torturous…

  224. devil without a cause says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5J-DpvW-m4&feature=related

    we shud hav a look at him if we are in for a CAM….. amazing dribbles…… can be our messi like……

  225. Sandeep1878 says:

    Morning reds around the world…

    This Monday night wait looks larger than China wall…

  226. Jeet says:

    Morning Sandeep. I feel like a soldier in Aragorn’s army, waiting for orders to ride out to the final assault…

  227. Costas says:

    @Marq

    You summed up the Guardiola/Mourinho arguement perfectly.

  228. Sandeep1878 says:

    Jeet

    Morning mate :)

    I hope this game will over once for all…

    by the way any news on Fletch mate?

    We are missing him big time in that midfield..

  229. Sandeep1878 says:

    ON THIS DAY: In 1996, a bronze statue of Sir Matt Busby was erected outside the Old Trafford scoreboard end

  230. lordrt says:

    I just hope they dont make it too hard that in the end we lose everything (even the scousers are better than us up to now, having won 1 cup and being in the final of the FA Cup)

  231. Jeet says:

    Nemesis = A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by a ‘orrible cunt… me.

  232. Jeet says:

    But, who are you? Are you smartalex? Or are you Smart Alex? Or are you horny goat? Or are you Simple Sachu? Are you sure? Are you fake smartalex? Or fake Goat? Or fake Albert Ross? Are you real? The screen in front of you – does it not shimmer and quiver in a misasma of interwoven reality and imagination? Quick, the men in white coats are banging the door down! Time to take your pills – there, curl up and momma will make it all right. there’s a good boy!

  233. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning dipshits

    Is it just me or does this wait seem like eternity? I cannot remember a longer week in my life and its still only Friday for fucks sake!

  234. bayoRed says:

    I do not hate Barcelona, I was just jealous of their recent exploits in the CL. Not only beating us twice but also dominating the CL. I feel better now that it’s over. Their tikka-takka is beautiful to watch especially the possesion statistics at half time should be sweet to the Barca fan. However the style is boring and does not leave you at the edge of your seat like United’s attacking wing play. We attack more that any other top team (during our good runs) and I wouldnt give that up for pointless passses in the middle of the park. Getting Pep to manage Utd would undo all the foundation that SAF has been laying for the future United Manager, unless he leaves his tikka takka behind and adapts to the United way as we know it.

  235. ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:

    Guardiola is class- it must be like a well-sunned Newcastle in Barcelona and I’m not surprised he wants out- fanatical fans with no sense of perspective.

  236. Jeet says:

    Am I who you think I am? Are you who you are? Aren’t there more than one of you? maybe there are many of me? Are you feeling sad? For days now? The games aren’t helping anymore? If you invent a game, you have to play it…

  237. CedarsDevil says:

    We all know who you are sachu, just a sad lifeless kid with serious issues

  238. Jeet says:

    Careful, Cedars – we don’t know who IT is. It doesnt know itself….

  239. Costas says:

    Sachu. :lol:

    Sad fuck.

  240. Jeet says:

    …and then when she left, my world just crashed around me….there was nobody left to love me…

  241. CedarsDevil says:

    Jeet

    Whatever IT is, IT sure is sick as fuck!! ha ha

  242. eric keane says:

    apparently john terry will be allowed to lift the trophy.
    why would bayern want this sick fuck to lift it for them in the first place ?:D

    COME ON UNITED>
    19 going on 20

  243. Jeet says:

    Not very comfortable on here, is it? I knew right away who you are, you diseased mind…stay and play the game you invented. The demons in your head are really active today, eh? Despite all the talent, all the potential, the world is not yours…what a pity. All around you, mediocre people are happy with their lives, whereas you, who clearly deserves so much more….has your life been worth it? So much darkness….

  244. Costas says:

    Nah, the bullshit started and ended at 10:07.

    Won’t get in the trouble of answering anything directed towards me. We all know each other in here. But the line about MG was the nail in your coffin. MG’s life is just fine. I know that much. On the other hand, you are a cowardly twat that won’t even admit who he really is and his only joy in life is playing keyboard warrior. Now that’s one fucked up life.

  245. Albert Ross says:

    Good day Reds!

    Right now, click CONTACT on the top of this page, and briefly express your dismay.

    Do it now. Come on, 1 minute spent now will save hundreds of hours of frustration for us all.

    click CONTACT on the top of this page, and briefly express your dismay.

  246. Albert Ross says:

    Wow!

    Scott the Red was so quick on the draw!

    Thank you Scott!

    Reds, ignore my request! I was trying to close the door, but Scott beat me to it.

  247. Costas says:

    @Albert Ross

    Is there a point? Complaints were made about sachu once, he was banned, yet he keeps popping up…

  248. Costas says:

    Ha! Guess I was wrong.

  249. andromeda says:

    Am a drama made man
    I enjoy drama
    reds are my favorite movie
    make my soul stand by
    twiddle with the chair
    shouting into the air
    Fergie is my master
    I bet his heart pounding faster
    craving for glory all the time
    sleeping on the cold with a lime
    living on dreams and breathe like fire
    waving the game into the wire
    taking a swipe at anyone
    leaving the praise for only one
    die hard on the pitch, like a child
    at last minutes he goes wild
    never die attitude in his blood
    city, we are coming with a flood
    throw you away into saint James Park
    leave your bones to be eaten in the dark..

  250. Jeet says:

    @Costas: Yes, that made my blood boil. What sort of a man would wish ill on a father over an internet arguement? I knew right away from the exaggerated Cedars hate and the one liner he left for me. SICK bastard. Thank you, Scott.

    Top song from Andromeda! Where’s our own Zibbie Stardust these days?

  251. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas / Albert

    To be fair, Scott has always responded to such requests in the past and usually acts quite swiftly (Today is another example)…However the sick freak(s) can easily appear again via a different IP address. I guess and just like an annoying mosquito we just have to keep squashing it

  252. Albert Ross says:

    Costas – Ha! I guess you were!

    I was too late anyway, by the time my 10:21 hit the shelves, Scott had deleted the blighter.
    (… or perhaps it was the oft-maligned Admin that saved our day?)

    Either way, thanks RoM!

  253. Albert Ross says:

    Great lyrics andromeda, cheers!

  254. andromeda says:

    Albert Ross, thanks:)

  255. Albert Ross says:

    CedarsDevil – we will just have to let StR know each time a fresh wave of filth arrives.

  256. CedarsDevil says:

    Albert

    Indeed we will my friend (My very good friend)

  257. andromeda says:

    German media said, United have offered Kagawa a deal!oops.

  258. Marq says:

    I hate Ribery for his antics to get Rafael sent off, but I’ll have him touch the CL trophy ahead of Terry anyday & everyday

  259. Union Jack says:

    I can’t believe I have only just realised Albert Ross’ moniker is a pun. D’oh

  260. WillieRedNut says:

    People assume it was sachu, but I offered an alternative name last week? Low and behold, who did this person say was the best poster on here? ;) Perception is a flame in the distance. I flip your assertions of me, and my friends. You don’t got anything to offer to anyone on here. Well done StR!

  261. Albert Ross says:

    WillieRedNut – perhaps that name-drop was deliberate, as he had read your alternative.
    Of course that alternative does love fame, and infamy more, so he might well point at himself.

    I think that it is safe to assume that whoever is watching RoM like a hawk, and reacting quickly to unfolding events, is also posting regularly. It is someone with grievance against various posters (esp. smartalex) and that has arisen from poor exposure on RoM.

  262. Jeet says:

    Today’s troll wasn’t sachu – you could see clearly from the vocab

  263. King Eric says:

    Dandivine – No mate I was taking the piss when I said Pardew and Curbishley!!

  264. King Eric says:

    Whats happened lads please?

  265. CedarsDevil says:

    I think Willie may have a point but at the end of the day I honestly do not care anymore… Could be more than one freak not doubt about that. Would rather spend time talking and addressing the normal and sane folk on here

  266. CedarsDevil says:

    King Eric

    Fake smartalex made a few posts this morning attacking everyone left right and center…….STR acted quickly and removed them

  267. NBI Red Onion says:

    You cannot register with the same user name as someone else. There is no fake @smartalex, it is the same guy with now more than once personality playing silly games.

  268. CedarsDevil says:

    NBI

    That is incorrect mate, several users have been hacked here and once Scott is notified he takes action and blocks the impostors

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