I’d bet Manchester City have never had so many column inches in their life. They’re the talk of the country at the moment, with reports realised every day about what the latest high profile figure in the game has to say about their takeover.
Sir Alex Ferguson is the latest to join in the fun, claiming that he isn’t fazed by the supposed threat City are supposed to bring.
“I can’t be worried,” Ferguson said. “We have a good setup ourselves and we’ve been working to build up the team we’ve got, so we just have to carry on. There are always challenges in football, some years ago it was Chelsea and some years ago it was Arsenal and wherever the challenge comes from we have to accept it. So it doesn’t change anything.”
When United fell apart in 2002 and Arsenal went on to claim the title, the press claimed Ferguson was wrong to change his mind on retirement. By 2005, the press claimed that we were “in decline”, like Liverpool of the 1980′s, under Ferguson management. Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho have both been hailed as better managers over the years, but as their titles dried up, Ferguson was still left standing.
What makes Ferguson special is that he has built so many successful teams with United. There was the 1994 Double winning side, the 1996 Double winning side, and 1999 Treble winning side, and now this, the 2008 Double winning side. To not be successful over one time period, but to stretch it out as Fergie has, is incredible.
Since Ferguson won his first trophy with United in 1990, we have never gone longer than one season empty handed, which is a remarkable achievement. To go 18 years but never go more than one year without winning something proves the quality he possesses.
Whether it’s Mark Hughes or some high-flying European manager that is in charge of City next season, Ferguson is right to remain fearless. Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal and Chelsea have all wanted a piece of our trophy, and now there’s talk it could be City fighting it out with Fergie. I know who my money is on!
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and the scousers! and madrid!
“Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal and Chelsea have all wanted a piece of our trophy”
This is exactly why everyone hates United fans.
No doubt united werre kings of Europe last season, but if Fergie thinks he’s finished with Arsenal as a challenger I’m afraid he’s misled. Certainley if he thinks City are a bigger challenger to him this year than us, but then I suppose they beat you guys twice last season so you already had reason to be worried.
Dave – West Ham beat us home and away the season before last. Should we have feared them last season too?
Clown.
fabregas’ dad,
bring on the hate. the more the better. just makes us stronger.
What’s up gooners, or should I say gonners, don’t like the truth?
You’re a spent force whilst the mighty UTD go on and on.
Hail King Fergie
It aint your trophy son. But you are right, Old Man Fergie will see off the Middle Eastlands.
i wonder if alex could do that job without the cash after all he spends loads of wonga rooney 29m rio 30m berba31m hargreaves 18m carrick 17m anderson/nani/ronaldo even tevez 32m fuck me you slag chelsea but thats some budget for a manager
Fergie is great but it is the amount of money that he spends why he is winning so many titles. Only Chelsea have spent comarable amounts.
Sir Alex has bought many trophies but shouldn`t get carried away when he looks at what his rivals sepnd.
Yeh Gigo, the trophies will mean less to him if he looks at how little Arsene has spent, right? He’ll look at the Premiership trophy and European Cup at Old Trafford and think “I shouldn’t get carried away… I could be like Wenger. If only we’d won fuck all for the past three years… *sigh*”
Lol do you lot even believe the shite you write? Honestly?
I’m sure you have very little to worry about when it comes to City challenging.
or maybe not even a small provinical city but a town somewhere in the home counties. Even so the same logic applies.
‘A piece of your title’ I guess that is why Man Utd fans are so disliked, but I guess when you live in a small provincial city then football probably is your only interest
I think Chelsea might have something to say about your title this year……
Nothing this season though in my opinion. Managed to lose to Zenit and failed to beat Newcastle who tend to self-destruct.
The money spent on Berbatov would probably have bought two better strikers from Europe.
Ronaldo is needed asap, but will he be as effective?
alan c,….shevchenko, del horno, wright phillips, sidwell, pizzaro, kalou, malouda, fererra, ben haim, boularouz, and anelka….now there is shit load of money well spent!!!!!….we might spend, but we buy quality more times than not, not the fucking dross the rentboys buy.
Scot the Red.
I agree Wenger can be a bit frsutratingly frugal with his spending but he still cannot match Fergie`s spending power(no one for that matter except Chelsea). So if Fergie could win all those titles with a budget comparable to his rivals..then he could talk with great pride.but not when your the greatest spenders(apart from chelsea for a few years). thats the cold hard facts.
Not sure that anyone has been seen off. After a long long period of failure, Utd’s success in the 90s was based on an outstanding crop of homegrown players, who ensured that Utd were on top when the money really began to flow into football. Utd became the richest club in the world, able to outspend their rivals and so stayed on top until a manager came along capable of building a better team on a fraction of the budget. Utd were then second best for several years until arsenal faded. Utd then found themselves being outspent for the first time, by Chelsea, and were once again second best. So Utd sold the club, mortgaged the future and were able to outspend their rivals again, and so back to the top. Problem now is that City and Chelsea are likely to be able to spend their way past them but this time no bank is going to give Utd the funds to buy back the premiership. Fergie’s a great manager but Utd’s enduring success is based on outspending their rivals and those days may be over.
The money Fergie spent on RIO and Berba could have bought the entire arsenal team.
Gunner77 – could you be any less original? What is it, fucking 1994? Of course, if I’m a United fan, I couldn’t possibly be from Manchester. No no, all proper Mancunians support City.
I honestly can’t believe how many people buy in to that bluenose lie.
Manchester United have won the Premiership title 10 times, every other team in the football league has won it a combined total of 6 times. Yes, it’s our title.
Gigo – You are having a laugh if you think Ferguson isn’t going to take pride in 10 league titles and 2 European Cups.
“and the prize for the team that spent very little and won nothing goes to….” Until they have an award for what you’re bragging about, clear off
Pete – You are wrong. Chelsea have spent more than us, yet we have beaten them to the title for the past 2 seasons running. In the summer of 2006, Chelsea added Shevchenko, Ballack and A Cole to their Premiership winning squad… whilst we sold Ruud and bought Carrick. Yet it was United who won the league that season. We may have outspent Arsenal, but the same cannot be said for the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle and Blackburn, who have all spent a shit load.
[quote]Gigo – You are having a laugh if you think Ferguson isn’t going to take pride in 10 league titles and 2 European Cups.
“and the prize for the team that spent very little and won nothing goes to….” Until they have an award for what you’re bragging about, clear off
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Yeah he can take pride in no doubt..but still recall the price he paid for it.
You think he gives a shit less? If Wenger ever won anything these days, I’m sure he’d take a lot of pride in knowing he did it without spending much money. But you honestly are kidding yourself if you think Fergie thinks twice about the money spent to build the squad that just won the European Cup and League double.
scoty i dont follow chelski just stating facts,plus when the debts have to be paid in a couple of years you will see how clever fergie is then as he will be sat on a beach watcing the shit hit the fan.
im just a football fan who can see that all the glaziers(who you hated 3 years ago)are doing is going on a charm mission by putting the club into more debt with big signings in order to keep the masses happy.
then you won’t look at the bigger picture in short term utd are ok but in medium term i would say they are fucked!!!
Interesting lack of Chelsea, Liverpool and city fans, is that because only Wenger compares to Fergie, and we’ve had to build a new stadium so we can do so in the post Wenger era? All the Arsenal fans critisising united for spending so much should note that its not like Fergie had a limitless budget when he took over, he developed the club so that it could continue to compete, as Arsene has done, and for you united fans banging on about trophies, wasn’t so long you guys went without one for 3 years whilst you were rebuilding either. Interesting Scott you mention Wet Sham beating you twice that season, seem to remeber there was another London club that did the league double over you then.
Sorry Scott I didn’t realise you were one of those fans who thought that football started with the advent of the premier league. Is it the title you have won or just the premier league title? I can’t and wouldn’t even attempt to argue that Utd have been the most successful English team over the last 15 years or so and have no problem whether you spent or didn’t to achieve it. It’s a great achievement.
My comment about provincial was also a dig Manchester being a provincial town, you obviously didn’t pick up on that…..I can just here you whiny Manc retort coming at me now
Ferguson is just jealous of the new City and so are all Man Utd fans. This money will break you guys apart ON THE TRANSFER MARKET(i had to put this in caps so now guys with IQs below 10 would start jumping on this).
On the pitch, well, they can beat you in games but it will take a while to challenge for the league.
But be very afraid…consider them serious city and title rivals now whether u dont like it or u dont like it!
But I think you guys are scared and jealous, two words.
*Hear even
Just as Ferguson was jealous when Roman snatched Essien and Robben from his red nose, so is he now….he might probably be thinking of keeping targets secret until he gets them cos now its ‘Money aint shit’ over trophies..
Gunner77 – I honestly find it a strange past time to come on to United blogs and insult Manchester and Mancunians. Christ, the thought of spending my Friday night reading Arsenal blogs to have a pop at cockneys is pretty frightening. Honestly, nowt better to do?
Scousers are whiny, not Mancs. Ta raaaaa.
I love Wenger and he`s brilliant and I love my grandma whose says”email.. what does that do?” but SAF (purple nose) just adapts to the circumstances and the changes of Footy. While Wenger has the same stance so he wants to win it in his way (so just accept it and wait lol) Arsenal til I die w/ or w/o trophies
Don’t worry mate, Friday night starts later for me. Is only a little pop, I clicked on your blog after it appeared in an Arsenal newsnow search, don’t worry I didn’t seek you out son.
Just one last question are you Gary Neville?
This is ‘Hate it or Love it’ era….ManCity are creeping around the so called big teams’ players…be very afraid and hide you ‘chickens’. That is what happens when old bullies like Chelski and ManUSA realise they is an even bigger bully in the house with unlimited funds. I think it only takes 2 or 3 world class players to join them and the rest will follow like magnets.
Now most players are shy cos they think they might be called ‘money-oriented’ but hey, Adebayor would go…Flamini will…Cashley…Essien…ha ha ha Tevez will….just keep watch and start looking on as your targets head to the ‘Middle Eastlands’
At the price of 80M pounds on CR7, Ferguson was crying like a baby…complaining of tapping..Well Berbatov. hmmm. With a your city rivals tapping your players, that will be less obvious cos they can sneak in the nights to meet up. ha ha ha…oh I love this soap opera!
Interestingly enough..SAF did not say he would see anyone off…he just said that Manchester United always accepts the challenge from wherever it comes from….As for all this debate about achievements…my opinion is that I really respect the things he did in the 90′s with Beckham,Scholes, the Nevilles,Butt, etc….he developed those players and built fine teams ( bought some players too) and won trophies….now he just gets his cheque book out and spends ,spends ,spends and spends……..Manchester United could go on to win the quadruple next season, i couldn’t give a shit…It would just be testimony to who is dominating the very small mini-league of clubs who can afford to spend 25 million plus on any player they want…………
Another Arsenal obsession… Gary Neville. Far too predictable mate. Come back when you’ve got something I haven’t heard 10,000 times from Gooners before eh? Make it a bit more interesting.
Brian – When Abramovich came in to town, Fergie had no choice but to spend. He could not spend, and win nothing, like Arsenal, or he could spent, and win things. I’m very pleased he’s going for the latter, and if Arsenal had the money to buy lots of top quality players that won you the European Cup, you’d be very pleased to.
I don`t get Abu Dhabi …what r you on about. Yes! u got money so what. If and only If you start winning doubles and in the top 2. Then, and only then we may start to talk about Citeh ,but for now! go buy yourself a magic carpet and bugger off ffs! it`s boring
All you ARSENAL kids…sorry i meant Fans…why is Wenger so tight fisted? or is it the Board trying to save some lil cash? Are you sure Wenger has enough cash to feed at all?
And all you CHELSEA FLOPS …OOPS I MEANT FANS AGAIN…but wait a minute. Its not about spending too much but getting quality for your cash…The failure list is inexhaustible so i’l let you do the mentioning.
Arsenal don`t spend for the sake of it and even a blind man can see that…is their money who knows I really doubt it
gunned down…yes i will buy some magic carpet and fly to the middle eastlands with C. Ronaldo…splash some pocket change into your transfer coffers. why dont you and your Glazer debts go buy yourself some debt insurance then….lemmi give you and idea AIG can help! eat a d*ck!
Ha ha ha…for each petrol ManUSA fan buys, ManCity buys one world class player…
Put more petrol in your car
So we can buy another star
Every litre that you use
Gives more money to the Blues
Make more trips to the petrol station
It just build up our operation
Torres, C. Ronaldo, Fabregas and Buffon too
Will be playing soon… thanks to you!
City fans cause global warming” 1)A number of esteemed scientists have predicted that by 2012, the number of City fans would have increased by so many millions that the gas given off by them collectively will account for 17% of the world’s global warming and a large part of the polar ice caps melting away.
2)City fans blamed for massive rise in champagne cost as fans celebrate 3rd Champions league win in a row
3)City cause World Hunger. With City’s unparalleled success their ground has been extended to a 2,000,000 capacity, the added requirement for Chicken Balti pies on match days has caused widespread food shortages in some areas of Wigan.
SAF said nothing new, just what everyone believes: City is a joke and this’ll never change.
Sorry, fellow Gooners, but you’re dead wrong if you slag off SAF. Man United would not have had nearly the level of success that they’ve had without him at the helm, regardless of how much spending was involved. We have an excellent manager ourselves, dare I say the only one that could compare with Ferguson. In some areas, I prefer Wenger’s philosophy over SAF’s, but there’s plenty to admire in what Man U’s achieved over the years.
We should just be grateful that there are two managers in the Premiership who represent such differing philosophies and that each have had his fair share of success, proving that there’s more than one way to win a championship.
Scott…I am afraid you are wrong about what I would like…..I would like Arsenal to win the Champions league but not by out-bidding every club,spending mega-millions. I live in a fantasy world where the idea of bringing players through the system , local lads perhaps, building a successful team where the majority of players would never leave for any price. Football today has gone nuts. Take Ronaldo for example…he has had one blinding season and he wants to go….whats that all about ? In todays game there is hardly any loyalty because there are so many foreigners at clubs just for the money and after a few seasons they get a sniff of a big money move and they are already booking the plane tickets. I would wager that Ryan Giggs had many chances to get a big money move but he would never have entertained the idea because he is at the club he loves.You can seldom buy loyalty like that thesedays. If the best our clubs can hope for now is a few seasons of dazzling displays from big mega-signings then its all gone to shit……
Brian – United have won the European Cup the way you have described. In the 18 man squad that United took to the Nou Camp, 6 of them were from our youth team (it would have been 7 if not for Scholes’ suspension). Of the 11 that started, 4 were from our youth team, growing up as United fans.
But you’re right, it is fantasy to think you can do it in the same way now. That was just 9 years ago but football has changed since then.
You can say you would prefer things to be done Arsenal’s way, bringing in foreign kids and training them up, never breaking the bank on signings etc. and that’s fine. But if you go another 5 years, on top of the past 3, without winning anything, will you still prefer it? Would you not wish that you were buying top quality players, at a price, and winning the league and European Cup? The answer seems fairly obvious to me. Having ‘principles’ and clinging on to how football used to be is admirable, and I’d love to see another bunch of ‘kids’ set the World alight like United’s did from 96 onwards, but I’m realistic enough to know that football just doesn’t really work like that anymore. So I’ll happily take our trophies from last year, knowing we’ve spent a hell of a lot on players (yet still not as much as Chelsea, and before this summer, roughly the same as Liverpool in the past 10 years). I find it hard to believe that any football fan would shun the European Cup and Premiership.
Don’t forget that out of the 17 players that have featured for United so far this season, 9 have come from our youth system.
Lol indeed. Lot of City articles on here at the moment.
Abu dhabi….Dr sulaiman al fahim is cheif exec of Hydra properties. Thats properties you deluded shitty scum. NOT OIL/PETROL ok???
Right thats clarified. Secondly…we didnt have monies to spend when fergie took over, infact we had to scrimp and save…he built a team….built the youth setup…then came carrington…the young fledglings started delivering with dabbles of experience. Those double wins and success created huge turnover/revenue/success/shops/branches/global reach increased/marketing increased further etc etc etc etc. ALL came and increased from the doldrums of the 70′s and 80′s because SAF built with bare bones and lack of funds a great team.
And because that great team paid dividends..money came in..money we earnt..money we deserved. and then and only then late 90′s and 00′s we spent some money on big transfers. ONLY then. And unlike Chelski we havent spent 600 mill in 5 seasons. And if you look at the figures closely..liverpool have spent just as much..chelski are 200 mill ahead and arsenal arent that far behind us.
The things you forget are Arsenal have spent big too….but many of those names people seem to forget..wiltord, reyes, jeffers etc.
Yes in a perfect world we’d like to have solely youth players. But in the modern era that just aint possible. However when you look at our team you’ll find more homegrown english players than probs any team bar villa in the prem. Thats a testament to SAF.
And can we not spend every now and then from the money WEVE EARNT???
Would a guy who’s achieved so much through hard work.. Would you begrudge him, if he bought a car a new house. From his own hard earnt money??
Difference is Success = more success = money = UTD
Money = more money = success = shitty ( possibly) and chelski
Difference = class, morals, tradition, history, hard attained time and effort V classless, immoral, fly by night rich sugar whimsical daddies.
As i said i admire arsenal for what they do. But i hate it when some of your fans start spouting the same old debts/glazers/ money claptrap baloney.
And i am sure youd rather be in our position of trophies…instead of always being the bridesmaid
Gunner77 – you’re a cock. People accuse us of buying our way to the title, but a lot of people seem to overlook the fact that our double winning side of 1996 was won with kids that were promoted from the youth set up, and also achieved after gaining a net profit of 14million, after selling Hughes, Ince and Kanchelskis in the summer of 1995 – no incoming transfers. We beat Newcastle home and away that season and won the title by 4 points from them, despite their huge outlay on players that summer, which shows that spending big doesn’t necessarily win you the title. I do in fact recall a lot of morons having the audacity to compare Arsenal with that feat last season, even though you were peaking early in the season. We set the standards, and no other club will ever match that.
I seem to forget, but can anyone remind me how much Fergie spent in his days at Aberden???? Cus if i remember well, he brought them lots of success over his 8year stay there, so i guess he “bought” all those trophies too…leave it to some Arsenal fans to open their mouths and let sh!t fall out as usual.
Scott – I hear what you are saying but quite honestly I am not too bothered what happens from now on.It would be nice to see us win the Champions League but I won’t go into raptures about it.I am not critising United specifically for todays policies. You remarked about United winning the Champions league with many players that come out of the youth team.I remember that and I also remember Arsenal clinching the league at Anfield in ’89 with about six players players on the pitch that came through the youth system. I went to my first Arsenal match in 1963 and watched them for seven long years before I saw them win anything. I laugh at the people who say that you haven’t won anything for 3 three years like its some sort of long ice age. I have watched teams dominate the game then fall away (leeds , completely gone and liverpool no title since 1990). I am not even a big fan of bringing in loads of young foreign players at the expense of British talent. We have seen Arsenal dispense with the services of many fine young British/English players because Mr. W decided they were not right. So no…I do not want success at any price….and that price seems to be so high now. The majority of the Premier league teams CANNOT and WILL NOT win it…a bit different from years gone by…interesting facts…..EIGHT different clubs won a title in the 60′s…six in the 70′s. …four in the 80′s….Four in the 90′s….and so far only three in the 00′s ( one of them being Arsenal who will never ever ever ever win it again right ?)…so that leaves Man United and Chelsea to win everything for ever and ever…..how very fucking interesting that will be !!!…
giggs no fee, scholes no, fee nevilles no fee, beckham no fee, butt no fee, irwin, peanuts, schmicheal peanuts, ince 3 million, kanchelskis peanuts… these boys won more than wengers sides… some are still performing at the highest level, fergie spends to keep the momentum, he doesn’t spend more than united can afford. united earn their money. No benefactors like Chelsea, and now the “massives”.. United can service the debt and more. the Glazers are not stupid guys, these are hard-nosed businessmen. The massives will be run on handouts just like the russian mob. United, and though it pains me to say, Liverpool are still run traditionally, by people who have an interest in sport and business and are not just toys… Wenger and arsenal are minor league when it comes to competing. we all heard how great the gonners! would be after the emirates came on line…still all we hear is arsenals youngsters, such a young team…sure ol Arsene wasn’t a schoolmate of O’leary?? same excuses, same bridesmade but never the bride sentements. City will get up there, but will just make the big 4 a big five.. Dare I say “massive”!!!!
suhayl……just incase you have a short memory or are one of those that think that football began when Manchester United won the first premier league….we have won 13 titles ourselves (and the double three times)…I know that in terms of titles it’s soooo massivley (4) behind you lot but nevertheless, it is a bit better than always being the bridesmaid……
To be honest Brian, I’m not overly bothered how “interesting” this decade is for the neutral football fan. If United won the league every year, I won’t be upset that everyone else is bored with that.
The reason there is talk of there being three years of no trophies is because plenty of Arsenal fans hold Wenger up as a legend and Arsenal as “the greatest football team” going. For all their talk of beautiful football and Wenger’s genius, it’s no surprise people enjoy seeing that team go three years with an empty cabinet.
United have moved on with the times. We’ve embraced the change in football and have been successful because of it. I’m not going to feel guilty or any less satisfied with our success because of that. The reason we’re in a position to spend lots of money is because of our rich history, strong traditions and massive fan base. I have a lot of pride in my team (as I imagine most/all fans do) and the fact that I’ve got to see us win 22 trophies in the past 18 years only adds to that.
So we might spend a shed load of money now. Given a choice between doing that and being Champions of Europe and England, and not doing that, and winning nothing, the decision is far too obvious for me.
You guys seem to forget that it took a lot of years for SAF to achieve the success he has.I am not going to demeen the suceess he has brought to Manchester United , its very impressive, but you are very dismissive of Arsene Wenger. SAF took how many years at Manchester United to first win the title ? 6 or 7 not sure….from 86 to 97 was it four titles and two doubles ?
and not forgetting Cup winners cup and F.A. Cups in that period.Didn’t it take 11 or 12 years for him to win the Champions league ? Well Arsene Wenger has been at Arsenal for about 11 years now , got 3 titles , two doubles and a bunch of F.A Cups…maybe you should give Arsene Wenger the benefit of another 10 years or so at the top level , then judge him….
Brian, you’re forgetting that United were 2nd from bottom in the league when Sir Alex Ferguson took over. Arsenal had finished 5th when Wenger took over. The situations aren’t really comparable and I’m always confused as to why Arsenal fans try and make this comparison.
Since winning his first trophy in 1990, Ferguson hasn’t gone longer than one season without winning something, that’s why we feel we can criticise Wenger.
I would very much like the red face one er SAF to show what he can do at at one of the bottome teams. Yes I know his record speaks for itself . In my opinion he has been using the billions or millions at his disposal to buy not win the tilte.
Yes other managers have also used money to buy success.he to a greater extent. That’s why for all his bravado go ahead and manage WBA/Hull or any of the not so priveleged teams who aint have the money to buy or restricted in the transfer market.
All things are not permanent . They all have to bite the dust. I think it’ very boring for all soccr fans world wide to always have the same teams fighting for honour.s I say to the football authorities to level the playing field. Minimum of of 6 home grown players ad we will see where the red faced stands.
Fabregas’ Dad Said – LOL i fink u gt the wrong website mateee this is for MANCS not for horrible stupid gunners, plz stick to ur own sites or are they sooo boring!
Jimmy – we’ve played 9 homegrown players this season. Our most successful teams in Fergie’s reign, (96, 99 and 08) contained loads of homegrown players. I don’t really understand your point. How many London lads to Arsenal and Chelsea have in their teams? How many scouse lads do Liverpool have in theirs? United have more local lads in our team than any of the top 4. So, essentially, you’re talking crap.
Scott….there has got to come a time when for the good of the game, the money will not be the biggest factor dictating a clubs success, and yes I know that you have won etc etc without it , but the fact is you can’t do that now….
Someone soon will say enough is enough, Monsuer Platini is soon to investigate all clubs in the Champions league who operate/benefit from owners/backers large donations or loans.Also I can envisage a time very soon when a club will not be allowed to play in the Champions league if it spends way in excess of it’s gate receipts and TV revenue on players wages and transfers. Commercial revenues can be manipulated….Roman can buy 50,000 shirts and donate to the needy etc. Its sounds a very difficult problem for EUFA to deal with but they are going to do it. The clubs in Europe are not going to sit back and let an English club either running on massive debt,or dripping with gas/oil money , run off with the champions league every season.
Its a bit hypocritical really….after all didn’t Platini play for Juventus ?….
Brian – before getting on to this, do you agree it’s not a fair comparison to look at Fergie’s time before winning a trophy in comparison to Arsenal’s? Fergie moved us up 10 places in the table between taking over in November and finishing in May.
You’re right, the money will become an issue at some point. It was never a problem when Real Madrid were ruling the roost, or AC Milan, but now English teams are on top, UEFA and FIFA have a problem with it. Go figure.
Scott – Yes I know you were second from bottom or whatever when he took over and all the players were drunks and layabouts , or at the end of there careers etc etc. Why we compare compare it is simple…in SAF’s first full season (87/88) you were runners up…whatever the reason it took until 1993 to win a title is irrelavent.Whether it was rebuilding,not good enough or unlucky,it still remains a fact that he took seven years to win a title and Arsene Wenger won 3 in his first seven years .Nobody can deny the superb achievements of manchester united and SAF but I wish you chaps would recognise that others do some good stuff aswell….
I don’t think any any point people are discounting anything Wenger’s achieved. Mentioning the fact he’s won nothing for 3 years isn’t taking away from things he has done. But essentially, it is past, isn’t in? When Arsenal last won the league, Kleberson, Forlan, Bellion and Djemba-Djemba were in our side. Roy Carroll was playing in goal when we beat you in the cup. It feels like forever ago to United fans.
Like I said earlier, the Arsenal masses that infiltrate this blog every now and again bang on about Wenger’s genius and about your “beautiful football”, so it is only natural that we respond to any Arsenal fan by recognising the great achievements of our own manager.
The two situations are incomparable, because of the side Wenger inherited in comparison to the side Fergie inherited, and because of the money Wenger has spent in comparison to what Fergie has spent.
Wenger improved Arsenal by 15 points in his first two seasons. In the same time period, Mark Hughes improved Blackburn by 19 points. When I’m not so drunk, I’ll look in to the difference of money spent in transfers. Then we can have a new debate on our hands
It is our fucking trophy wether you scousers, goons, or chavs like it or not.
Fergie has seen em all off and hell see of citeh and the tea towel mob don’t woryr about that
To those of you who say Ferguson only buys success, what about what he did at Aberdeen? And on the topic of City, I think the new owners might get bored when they realise that they can’t buy instant success which they seem to think. And besides, if someone buys City it’s a big possibility that some other extremely rich person buys United and then City will have even less chance to succeed.
how many titles did they win last season
Yes brian i did know you had won 13 titles and you havea rich rich history. I wouldnt ever deny that for a second. What i said was in recent times looking at recent successes failures. You are becoming bridesmaids. Thats all. I would never disrespect another clubs achievements even though im a diehard utd fan