Comments on: Fergie: We’ll See Off City… Just Like We Did Arsenal and Chelsea

By: suhayl

suhayl — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:10:12 +0000

Yes brian i did know you had won 13 titles and you havea rich rich history. I wouldnt ever deny that for a second. What i said was in recent times looking at recent successes failures. You are becoming bridesmaids. Thats all. I would never disrespect another clubs achievements even though im a diehard utd fan

By: jim

jim — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:42:33 +0000

how many titles did they win last season

By: Patrik

Patrik — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:07:01 +0000

To those of you who say Ferguson only buys success, what about what he did at Aberdeen? And on the topic of City, I think the new owners might get bored when they realise that they can’t buy instant success which they seem to think. And besides, if someone buys City it’s a big possibility that some other extremely rich person buys United and then City will have even less chance to succeed.

By: Jimmybob

Jimmybob — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:25:29 +0000

Fergie has seen em all off and hell see of citeh and the tea towel mob don’t woryr about that

By: Markus Revolver

Markus Revolver — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:54:07 +0000

It is our fucking trophy wether you scousers, goons, or chavs like it or not.

By: Scott the Red

Scott the Red — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:09:44 +0000

I don’t think any any point people are discounting anything Wenger’s achieved. Mentioning the fact he’s won nothing for 3 years isn’t taking away from things he has done. But essentially, it is past, isn’t in? When Arsenal last won the league, Kleberson, Forlan, Bellion and Djemba-Djemba were in our side. Roy Carroll was playing in goal when we beat you in the cup. It feels like forever ago to United fans.

Like I said earlier, the Arsenal masses that infiltrate this blog every now and again bang on about Wenger’s genius and about your “beautiful football”, so it is only natural that we respond to any Arsenal fan by recognising the great achievements of our own manager.

The two situations are incomparable, because of the side Wenger inherited in comparison to the side Fergie inherited, and because of the money Wenger has spent in comparison to what Fergie has spent.

Wenger improved Arsenal by 15 points in his first two seasons. In the same time period, Mark Hughes improved Blackburn by 19 points. When I’m not so drunk, I’ll look in to the difference of money spent in transfers. Then we can have a new debate on our hands

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:57:53 +0000

Scott – Yes I know you were second from bottom or whatever when he took over and all the players were drunks and layabouts , or at the end of there careers etc etc. Why we compare compare it is simple…in SAF’s first full season (87/88) you were runners up…whatever the reason it took until 1993 to win a title is irrelavent.Whether it was rebuilding,not good enough or unlucky,it still remains a fact that he took seven years to win a title and Arsene Wenger won 3 in his first seven years .Nobody can deny the superb achievements of manchester united and SAF but I wish you chaps would recognise that others do some good stuff aswell….

By: Scott the Red

Scott the Red — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:24:14 +0000

Brian – before getting on to this, do you agree it’s not a fair comparison to look at Fergie’s time before winning a trophy in comparison to Arsenal’s? Fergie moved us up 10 places in the table between taking over in November and finishing in May.

You’re right, the money will become an issue at some point. It was never a problem when Real Madrid were ruling the roost, or AC Milan, but now English teams are on top, UEFA and FIFA have a problem with it. Go figure.

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:17:54 +0000

Scott….there has got to come a time when for the good of the game, the money will not be the biggest factor dictating a clubs success, and yes I know that you have won etc etc without it , but the fact is you can’t do that now….
Someone soon will say enough is enough, Monsuer Platini is soon to investigate all clubs in the Champions league who operate/benefit from owners/backers large donations or loans.Also I can envisage a time very soon when a club will not be allowed to play in the Champions league if it spends way in excess of it’s gate receipts and TV revenue on players wages and transfers. Commercial revenues can be manipulated….Roman can buy 50,000 shirts and donate to the needy etc. Its sounds a very difficult problem for EUFA to deal with but they are going to do it. The clubs in Europe are not going to sit back and let an English club either running on massive debt,or dripping with gas/oil money , run off with the champions league every season.
Its a bit hypocritical really….after all didn’t Platini play for Juventus ?….

By: Scott the Red

Scott the Red — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:14:19 +0000

Jimmy – we’ve played 9 homegrown players this season. Our most successful teams in Fergie’s reign, (96, 99 and 08) contained loads of homegrown players. I don’t really understand your point. How many London lads to Arsenal and Chelsea have in their teams? How many scouse lads do Liverpool have in theirs? United have more local lads in our team than any of the top 4. So, essentially, you’re talking crap.