Sunday’s 3-0 win over Newcastle was the 3,600th consecutive game that United had former youth team players involved in the squad. Jonny Evans, who joined the club when he was 9-years-old, and Tom Cleverley, who joined when he was 12, both got their names on the scoresheet.
Sir Alex Ferguson has hailed the work we do with bringing through young players and reckons we’re not short of achieving what Barcelona have with their youth players.
“Over the years, we’ve been as good as anyone in the country, probably the best, at doing that,” he told Inside United. “You look at the way Barcelona have produced players and we’re not far off that. We’ve had so many players come through down the years and, more recently, we’ve had the likes of Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley and Rafael come into the first team. Then you’ve got players like Ryan Tunnicliffe, Jesse Lingard and Michael and Will Keane, who are all part of a successful youth team. They’re progressing very well. So we’re still good at it [developing young players] and we enjoy seeing them come into the first-team squad.”
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A starting XI with every player 25 or under. Brilliant. And a team that can compete in every competition for the next five years. I am excited for the potential of this squad.
then play them Fergie! – Brady, Petrucci, Turncliffe
The Barca talk is yet again a link to pep.
Mark my words pep his on his way and its Fergie call……..pep will be at Old Trafford soon
Maybe as Fergie number 2.
here’s another one in the pipeline….
http://beautifullyred.co.uk/2012/09/28/gif-united-youngster-demi-mitchell-scores-wonder-goal-for-england-u16s/
Lawman10 don’t think the Barca talk has anything to do with Pep just a obvious connection to the 2 youth systems.How you can draw the conclusion that Pep will be SAF number 2 is beyond me and out of the realm of any possibility imo.Pep isn’t going to go to any club as a number 2
Philosophy that seperates united from some teams. United have outstanding younger players. Will/michael keane, tunnicliffe, nick powell, lingard, cole, sam johnstone, marnick vermijl, angelo henriquez, wooton and many more. patience is needed for them to blossom, united have been working rigorously hard to develop these players, bar a couple of big time charlies (that have got booted out of the club), they all seem to the right temprament as talent alone won’t carry them to the top. I’m delighted to watch them all gradually make that step up.
Add all that to the fact united have fairly younger players who have already gathered experience of first team fooball (rafael, smalling, welbeck, evans, david de gea, kagawa, fabio who is out on loan) + some entering their prime (rooney, valencia, young, nani) and a couple of older players. It’s a fine balance to have but generally, fergie is laying solid foundation that’s needed for continious growth, not all managers can implement such philosophy bullishly.
Oh and add alexander buttner.
Yes. What Sir Alex said about our youth system is plain true but can we see some more youths in our first 11 ?
One that come quickly to my mind is Ryan Showcross. He is exactly the player, the example and the elegance of how we take care of our boys but for God’s sake I don’t want to see a player of that calibre wearing a Stoke Shirt.
May be I’m talking a bit early about our existant youth squad but I don’t want to see another Showcross going niether to Stoke nor to any other club.After all when we go for a player to buy from them they always ask for statosferic sums of money. Nobody gives us his players for nothing !
Zulu – I think shawcross left due to a lack of patience and promise of first team football. When he tried making that step up, united had a formidable partnership of vidic and rio, evans and pique were also ahead of him at the time. Maybe if he stuck it out then he’d be an integral member of the team now as he is a top talent.
I disagree with this what SAF said…but our youth sistem is good, but not good like Barca s…
RM has good youth sistem…but they sell all good young players to other clubs, and then buying them back
I was thinking of this when I was watching city’s CL match against Dortmund. The commentators mentioned that Hart was the only Englishman in the squad. It’s just another thing I love about our club: we have players who’ve been in the system for years and they have a bunch of mercenaries. That’s a difference in philosophy that no amount of money can fix.
Mara, it seems u don’t understand the whole thing. SAF said we are not far from Barcelona. MU’s youth system is better than RM. U don’t see it?
@mara
How dare you disagree with SAF – He knows more about football than you so if he says it then its true.
If you dont agree then why dont you go and support another club.
@utd will never die
So you think Pep is too good to be No2 to SAF do you ? You`re an idiot – SAF is a much better manager than Guardiola but then if you were real fan you would never disrespect the manager like that.
Pep could learn so much from the greatest manager of all time and would be lucky to be his No2.
You`re a muppet if you think he knows more than SAF
It is alright saying we have the best youth system but what did he do on Sunday. United winning three nil then what does Fergie do, he does not put on youth but puts a 38 and a 39 year old players on as subs.
Years gone by when Scholes and Beckham were young they got their chance but not today.
Petrucci is one if not the best in the under 21s yet he never gets on the bench as sub for the first team.
I blame Joyce for not pushing Petrucci for the first team.
O fucking dear…
Fivecantonas – you’re spot on.
One of the best youth academy in England? For sure. Not far off La Masia? Not sure about that. And Athletic Bilbao only recruit players from their youth team or the local Basque region.
@utd will never die.
Pep has gone on record and said he would love to work under Fergie.
So its not so silly to come out and say that.
Ninja don’t care if Pep comes or not,he got lucky with a incredibly talented Barca squad so don’t know how good he is,there is absolutely no connection between Pep not wanting to be number 2 and disrespecting SAF
You’re just a idiotic loser mate looking to cause trouble so fuck off
@samuel – united WE stand says:
O fucking dear…
I suppose YOU think you know more than SAF now as well.
Why dont you go and support City then if you dont think he is better than Guardiola or Miancini.
I think Fergie has won more cups than both of them combined.
So yes – “O fucking dear”
@utd will never die
Nice back tracking by the way – but you made it clear you thought he was too good for us.
Go support Barca you mug.
@Shinji:
My irony meter just exploded
Shinji the ninja – come on now, you’re becoming tedious now. Go have a couple of hobnobs and listen to celine dion to wither away your period. People read the blog and want credible football related stuff.
u no yesterday there were no real standouts for me..infact prob rooney, there were a few average performances swell in welbz and rap(although hes good when average)but i couldnt give a shit about individual performances to be honest the team performance is what counts and fuck me did we deliver…outstanding doesnt cut it, it was immense even the defenders who have been shite so far got to goals and were immense…was really pleased yesterday more so the manner in how we won it….not many teams will go there and play the way we did and win 3 nil on top of that…fuckin awesome….we clev s goal was outstanding and fully deserved, hes got shit from all angles this season..well from england fans anyway and boy was i chuffed with that goal…good lad and keep it up…but i have tyo say we rafa, what a player a superstar this kid is and hois defending is so much better..his attacking game was always there…glad for the international break for once so we can get som players back
@samuel – united WE stand says
“People read the blog and want credible football related stuff.”
If you know that then why are you just spouting personal abuse at people with whose opinions differ to yours?
I noticed you seldom have any credible football related stuff to say yourself but just come on to give your verdict on others right to be alive like some Gay Emperor in the Coliseum.
Ninja haven’t backtracked at all you moronic fuck,Pep will never be number 2 at any club but that has nothing to do with disrespecting SAF what part of that don’t you understand simpleton
Not many teams will go there and even get a draw let alone win a something else performance that was.
SHINJI THE NINJA = LORD GAGA.
“I noticed you seldom have any credible football related stuff to say yourself but just come on to give your verdict on others right to be alive like some Gay Emperor in the Coliseum” – you really want to stoop down to a very low level, don’t you?. Your emotional madness must be a laugh for people that read the blog.
@King Eric
What the fuck has that got to do with football ? I thought this was about football not Cluedo
You got anything to say about football for a fucking change
@samuel
Hmmm – Yet again more credible football related insight from you.
Not sure how what you suggest would afford more opportunities to develop the youth and bring them through into the first team set up but you make some interesting and insightful suggestions.
Perhaps a senior/youth player shadowing scheme would be a good way forward.
Interesting point you make.
Whats the crack – still squabbling amongst yourselves. As far as Im concerned if your not part of the RoM fantasy football league and your not doing well then you hav eno place to criticise. Prove what you know holds water or keep it shut. Dont want to keep it shut then every time you open your mouth dont be surprised to taste the odd dogs egg.
I thought the shit about Van Persie “elbowing” Cabaye was understandable but funny how Pardew totally missed the fact that Cabaye altered his course and was running right into Van Persie at the time. If that happens to me then the elbows to come out, its fucking naturall.
For all you out there who wanted Cabaye and Tiote can you please be honest enough to come forward and admit that you are clueless cunts. Because funny enough, young cleverley, worthless Carrick and a Jap wre crap a week ago and didnt stand a chance. Out your selves before someone reads back at the comments and takes a royal swipe at your sorry arses.
Some of the fans on here are fekkin dosile reprobates.
Who the fuck is this shinji the ninja guy?! I havnt seen him on here before this weekend but hes telling people that have used this blog for ages to support a new team. Shut up you bellend and change your fucking name. We like shinji, but we dont like you… Also i think it was yesterday you were saying how shit SAF was before the newcastle game, now your on your high horse praising him! You go support city you mug, we like samuel, hes a PROPER united SUPPORTER
Shinji – walk towards your nearest mirror, take a deep breath and sing “The men in white coats will here soon” to yourself repeatedly. You need every help possible.
@Dan-young
I think your right Dan – a lot of our attacking prowess has come from the wings traditionally but I can see that a through the middle approach linking Carrick to Rooney to RVP could unpick more physical defences. You raise some very good points about how to play in those CL big games. Nice to hear someone making some credible points about football.
We need more independent thinkers like you.
goat @ 19:22: “For all you out there who wanted Cabaye and Tiote can you please be honest enough to come forward and admit that you are clueless cunts.”
I’d still like to have Cabaye – Tiote isn’t good enough on the ball to get a game at UTD (the real “United”). So, I guess I’m a “clueless cunt” – or half of one (whatever that might be)
@samuel
You sure you wouldnt be better off on Facebook
KungFooCantona @ 18:23 – write in English. I can’t be bothered to try and decipher gibberish. You ain’t no AliG.
No doubt about that. That being said, I do wish we trusted the young players like we did 10-15 years ago. For example, there was no reason for Scholes to start the Spurs game ahead of Tom. It’s not about who’s the better player currently. But who’s the future of the club. Lets hope that the last 2 weeks have opened Fergie’s eye in that respect.
@dentomdavey
I also think Cabaye would strengthen us – He would provide some of the missing grit and would be a great partner for Cleverley who looks better and better each time he has some back up to win some balls in the middle for him. Anderson should be allowed to get a run and do that but Cabaye would slot nicely in.
*eyes*
Good news is we have SAF to make the footballing decisions. Whilst id agree this is a football blog (and i normally do comment about football) i felt that you were such a waste of a split condom that you deserved to know what everybody that is reading your comments thinks of you. Havnt you found it weird that pretty much everybody on this blog disagrees with you? Its cause we see comments from deluded wankers like you that think they know best and do nothing but argue with other users .. We all think your a dick,. Just so you know
@Costas
Me too – I still think that Giggsy should have stepped aside to make room for the likes of Petrucci.
I cant help thinking that we will regret not having given Pogba the chance to prove himself instead of using “Ryan`s experience”
Giggsy was an amazing player – in his day. But he is not now nor was he ever a central midfielder so we should be trusting real young central midfielders and letting them stand or fall but at least giving them their chance.
Youth only seems to get a chance when we are down to the bare bones due to injuries these days.
Pep at United wouldn’t be too much to imagine. I think he’s a man who likes a challenge and to constantly learn. Fergie is coming to the end and I think the transition to another manager has to start before he leaves. Pep coming in as No2 for a season or so and taking over at the start of next season or the year after could happen.
Stranger things have happened at sea.
@Dan-young
No substance to what you say – just a lot of yapping.
You got any examples of what I said thats so ludicrous and abhorrent ?
Cut and paste is your friend.
Otherwise you are just yappety yapping like a girls handbag dog
There was alot of substance to what i said. You just chose to ignore it to feed your deluded ego.
@Ice Cube
Yes – would like to see Pep take over – I think he has both the personality and ability to modernise the coaching and take a more hands on approach – would need a massive back room clearout and a free reign so unless he is given carte-blanche then I dont think he would.
Moyes would be cheaper and more pliable to being told that some of Fergies yes men have to stay so we would end up with the worst of both worlds.
I fear there maybe a shadowing period with Moyes taking over after a “Final Year” is announced.
I dont think that is the way forward but think Fergie will find it to hard to let go completely. It would be better if when he does go, he really lets go so the new guy can do it his way and be judged on that.
We will find out soon I reckon.
I hope its Pep or Larry Blanc
@Dan-young
There actually wasnt though Dan – Was there.
Just sayiing there was doesnt really cut it.
Show me to be the cunt by cutting and pasting from my ACTUAL posts otherwise you are just yap yap yapping to announce your arrival.
Take your time.
My guess is you will come back with “I cant be bothered” because that is the fact of the matter – No substance to you.
denton
It makes you honest, an honest cunt. lol
For all those writting off our defence and then writing off our midfield and hailing the Newcastle midfield those people have been somewhat inconspicuous. I admire your honesty.
I dont personally think Cabaye has what it takes but thats an each to their own thing isnt it. As for Tiote and his tantrum I nearly chocked on my beer watching that and remembering what some fans on here said about him and how good he was.
Lawman10 my bad then mate I’d no idea Pep said he’d love to work as SAF’s assistant,if that’s the case and want’s to manage Utd that bad he’s gone way up in my estimation
@goatinaunitedshirt
Tiote`s little tantrum was the most childishly hilarious thiing since Balotelli`s Bib…………………….but then Suarez won the Brat of the Day award by a mile with his falling down in a supermarket isle routine.
Free Anderson!!!!
Good evening ROM!!!
Fucking internationals back again, really hate this games. But atleast some of our players will be returning by the time this internationals stops. Here hoping nobody of our internationals return with an injury.
I can’t see United ever dropping wingers from our style of play. Having an alternative formation is smart, especially against teams who set out to dominate our midfield, but you can’t replace the impact of two quality wingers. To the fans hoping for a United revolution, I doubt we’ll be lining up Striker-less like Spain any time soon, and thank fuck for that!
As for our existing wingers both Young and Nani are confidence players, unlike Valencia who gives the impression he could probably start with an arm missing. We’ve missed not having Young available as he’s much more than a poor mans Nani. Obviously his dip in form didn’t help him win many fickle fans, and a lot of people got on his back after a brilliant start – but his stats still remain the same, as does his ability on the pitch. If anything this ‘blip’ in his career will make him a more complete player as he’s now experienced the highs and lows of being a United player all in one season. Im expecting him to return in top form, mentally and physically.
As for our friend Nani, its a bit more complex. He’s been off his game since he picked up a soft yellow at Everton and he MUST be frustrated with his own season so far. Still, after the whole team played shite v Spurs our quality second half did involve a fired up Nani looking for his second goal of the match, and that was the last performance we saw from him. Scoring our opener will do his confidence good, and tbh smacking Petrucci about (if it happened) might’ve made him feel a bit better about things in general as well.
Either way, its far too early to say Nani’s OT days are over, Valencia has already reminded us why he wears no7, and Young will be back to his best shortly. With players like these on our books don’t expect us to play winger-less on a regular basis. I enjoyed the new formation on Sunday but we should add it to our existing style of play, not throw out our tradition and start again from scratch. Having a Manager with vision and a Squad full of adaptable, skillful players is the way forward.
It was really excellent to see the team get together for a fantastic win, which I thought united could lose 3-2. I was wrong and happy to see a magnificent performance from the team. De Gea was good, and I hope he addresses his problems as soon as possible to become a legend at United. We need u to be strong and break the record set by Van der Sar’s Worldwide league record keeping clean sheet (1,311 minutes, set in 2008–09 Premier League).
But, I think it would have been better to let some youth come on as substitutes in the last minutes as they will get some match experience that will surely add to their confidence. But, Sir Alex knows best what is good for united and I respect his decision. GGMU…
what a cracker from Demi Mitchell wow, I saw that goal against Bayern in that turnament.
Demi Mitchell and Mats daehli dominated and also a striker Can’t remember his name.
I didn’t know Demi Mitchell’s his name at that time, but when I saw that gif I remembered, and he wasn’t that outstanding in the torunament, but wow, now he scroed that goal, what a prospect.
Great to see there is a lot more after the 21s. Mats daehli is the first to pop-up, now this guy Demi Mitchell.
I would like to see Mike Phelan in the carpark washing the coach and emptying the chemical toilets ready for the journey back – He can sit and read his copy of Razzle in the drivers seat til the game`s over.
NINJA
@Dan-young
You got any examples of what I said thats so ludicrous and abhorrent ?
Both ludicrous and abhorrent and proves your not a Red because that is just fucking horrible
hey really,
what’s happening here, everyone accuses each other for not being a supporter and talking nonsense.
Nobody wants this drama over here. IF you talk , talk United and football, if you critisize, critisize formations or that we didn’t play well.
Sick of this drama. SHINJI THE NINJA, please let go your vengeance, and SAMUEL, you know I agree with you and we share the same opinions, but let this go, let him say his opinion, who cares, it’s just his opinions.
Same others, dissing each other cause they write wrong or they have different opinions. This is life. Of course if a person comes every freking time and complaints then that is a piss attitude and has his own problems.
take it easy guys.
btw haven’t heard in a while King Eric and Costas, ncie to see you here.
@United Till I Die
I almost completely agree with you haha
maybe he will not drop it this season yet, but next season might as well drop the winger formation and use it as plan B.
Everything you said about Nani is true. and same as for Valencia and Young. Just one thing, I haven’t seen yet the true Valencia, if you know what I mean. He hasn’t got that drive, even though against Liverpool he did som ebrilliant runs and got us the penalty.
I trully hope Valencia and other wingers, comes more to life, cause they haven’t been that great, YET.
patientaly waiting that to happen
Internationals should be boycoted
UNITED:!
@WeAreUnited sorry mate anyone who says Mike Phelan is only fit to clean toilets and sit on the bus can fuck off he;s not entitled to a opinion on a Utd blog
hahahahahahah that ninja cunt really reminds me of one resident psycho we had a while back who kinda fucked off all the regulars on here.. his name alludes me but surely someone must remember this
fucking great win, great to see our most unlikely scorers (bar De Gea) perhaps get on the scoresheet and win us the game! clean sheet always welcome too!
Ninja, I think you belong over at ND58.
tom c,there’s been lots last was 911/sara and from what i’ve been reading some posters still think he’s around. That isn’t the Ninja, although he’s a cunt way smarter than 911,he goes from being a dick to talking football so he thinks he’s fucking with everyone that’s what makes him stupid and a horrible cunt for saying bad shit about a good man.
miami_red the lads who left for ND58 are top reds,the last person who belongs there is Ninja the cunt
it was a great bit of business regarding shawcross 150 league games experience in prem league and 50% sell on fee which means we can buy him back for half the money of any other club
sinija the ninja you’re a fucking bellend
wayne- how did you get on in the ufc
wayne says:
@WeAreUnited sorry mate anyone who says Mike Phelan is only fit to clean toilets and sit on the bus can fuck off he;s not entitled to a opinion on a Utd blog
So you think Mike Phelan is United quality ?
Then its you who dioesnt deserve to be on a United Blog.
Mike Phelan is seriously unimpressive mate and I would be fascinated to hear you list his particular qualities.
I think he is just a Yes Man
@wayne says:
miami_red the lads who left for ND58 are top reds,the last person who belongs there is Ninja the cunt
Nice turn of phrase Wayne – thats a massive brain at work I see
did mike phelan not play for united so does that not make him united quality
@weareunited
actually mate – now I have given it thought you`re right. I can see it now. Mike Phelan should take over after SAF retires. Its so obvious now you have pointed out how valuable Phelan is in the operation of the club.
Hi Wayne good to see your type here.
Goat you as well, I have to say I am , a lower part of one lip. I mentioned Tiote once, as a kind of player I would like. Never a Cabage fan, nice tidy player not a Man Utd guy. !!
Top Reds that can kill cunts at will!!!
@markg
I may be a bellend but at least I dont know what one tastes like.
Shouldnt you be on your way to lay some flowers on Jimmy Savile`s grave again.
See ninja the cunt ,you have no fucking idea what value Mike Phelan brings to Utd.Utd are the biggest club in the world and Sir Alex has been ruthless in moving on, no longer necessary .Mike Phelan isn’t there because he’s Fergie’s buddy you fucking moron that’s not the way Sir Alex works it’s all about business.Mike Phelan is there for his expertise that you have no fucking idea about and to reduce him to a toilet cleaner and yes man with no knowledge is truly ludicrous and abhorrent you’re just a piece of shit mate
markg says:
did mike phelan not play for united so does that not make him united quality
Bebe played for United. Djemba Djemba played for united………… shall I name a dozen more.
Besides, I am asking if he is the calibre to be number 2 to the manager of the World`s Biggest Football Club.
I think his achievements at Norwich dont exactly qualify him as “United Quality”
Nice try though. You can help him on the coach.
I rest my case
sucknji- sir jimmy only liked little girls so you can join that queue bet you applied for jim to fix it for you
@wayne says:
You are beyond naive mate.
Really are completely blinded by your devotion. Good for you – makes life easier than forning your own opinions, Lot easier to go along with conventiion so I understand why you are like you are.
Who is our chief scout ? How come we sent so many players to “Posh” for “experience and then brought them back again?
bebe ralph milne kleberson ronaldo denis law george best they have all done something youll never do
PLAY FOR UNITED AND NOT BE A LADYBOY YOU FUCKING PUSSY
@markg says:
Funnily enough I did apply to Jim`ll Fix it. I remember it well.
Dear Jim,
Please can you fix it for my mate markg on ROM to have some balls attached because he was born without any and he so wants to be a part of the gang and feel wanted on the forum.
@markg
Great argument – I suspect there isnt a single one of us on here that have played for United. But I would put money on it that there is a couple of lads who are better than Bebe.
So what exactly is your point ?
Please dont call me a Ladyboy as I suspect its for sentimental reasons.
You probably practiced your first blowjob on a Lady Boy and told yourself it wasnt really Gay because he had tits.
sucknji- im not you’re mate never had to be part of a gang my balls are big enough and never had to be felt wanted by strangers i have family and friends for that i was wrong to express my opinions back to you other than football on this forum so please feel free to ignore me on this forum again because i will be ignoring you
@mark
RESULT !!
Ninja you are joking right most people owe their job to Nepotism in one form or another but to keep it means the person has some value,that’s the way business works. If you don’t think Utd aren’t a elite business and Sir Alex hires nothing but the best then you are the naive one
What?
what the hell are you talking about SHINJITHENINJA
I never have said anything about MikePhelan? where did you come up with that? Are you ok?
If you can find a reference about that, then hats off, but now you are staright lying.
I am amazed that I actually tried to make a conversation about football with you and agree on some points you made, and now you come and lie that I said that. Are you ok? why am I surprised?
No matter are you correct with your arguments or what, nobody cares really. Now it’s time you to go. Just go. Try to do something productive. Sleep a little, eat good, watch some United history, look back at how many trophies we have won, our obstacles and everything. Try to look at the table.
Do that, and maybe you get it right nex time.
Peace.
@wayne
I disagree.
I also disagree with the statement “The Glazers are great owners”
I think there are a lot of Yes Man surrounding the Gaffer. You can see how he doesnt tolerate any opinions other than his own at Press Conferences. His Dictatorial style is well known – Queroz was the last quality number 2 we had and that coincided with our most succesful period and also the period when we conceded fewest goals. I think Mike Phelan does as he is told and that is the top and bottom of it. He follows the instructions to the letter Im sure but I doubt he challenges tactical decisions which would be healthy.
Too many Yes Men in the clique – but thats just my opinion.
@WeAreUnited
“Just go”
Hahaha – you wish it was your forum but sadly, your voice is no louder than mine on here.
Going nowhere mate – so get ready to have your limp minded views challenged.
“Mike Phelan should wash the coach…..” was used by wayne to show how “I was too disrespectful” to be on this forum and he passed those comments to you – Hence why I was referring to Mike Phelan.
Keep up
was steve mc claren and bryan kidd not our most successful number 2s
Call you all stop having a go at each other its getting very boring.
I thought we are all on here to discuss all things United? Not slag each other off…….its pissing me right off, think i am going to leave you all to it for a week or two.
By then we might be discussing football.
That’s the problem though mate,you think,have no proof and are making up just fucking nonsense about a decent bloke you have no fucking idea about and that makes you CUNT.
end of story
so what that he passed the comments, I never anwered it???
so you keep it up. I have never made a reference about MikePhelan.
you said in your comment to me , that I am right about MikePhelan, what?
keep up .
WAU no idea what your going on about mate
Don’t say my mind is limp minded, cause I actually agreed with you on some points you made, earlier, just didn’t agree the way you go at people.
October 7, 2012 at 21:32
WeAreUnited says:
One thing about this stupideness, I don’t know if SHINJI THE NINJA is a troll or what. Maybe he is, and maybe sometimes he is in point for some things.
He is in his last years, still getting us result and freshing our team up, by bringing promising players, for the future. SO show some respect for what he has done for us.
For me if you say he is senile, or stupid etc. Well for me, do and say what you want cause he isn’t my father or anything for me related.
BUT. If you do bash him in that way, well that has nothing to do with football and it’s VEEERy annoying and plain crazy. It tells alot about the person that writes such things.
those were my comments.
peace.
SHINJITHENINJA
can you keep up?
Ninja just in case 2+2 and all that,my above comment was an answer to your question how i came up with Ninja the Cunt
Honestly, what’s all this in-fighting about? I have lost the plot. Agreed, its been really funny reading Shinji’s comments especially how he started on this thread in the most ironic and sarcastic way(quite brilliant by the way) but then, your point’s been made, mate. You won’t be put down. Good for you but I think its time you let it go. Its starting to get somewhat tiring unless perhaps you can come up with something to top the way you started out on this thread, sarcasm-wise. Lol. I don’t see that anyone has got to prove he is or isn’t a fan to anyone else. Some points have been raised since the last match. Massive United display. Good stuff to watch but I am inclined to think Welbeck’s game still leaves a lot to be desired. I can’t exactly put a finger to what is wrong with his game. I don’t know if its confidence or talent or immaturity. I honestly don’t know. There’s been a lot of players who as strikers at age 20, have dazzled the footballing world so I can’t say its his age. The only excuse I can come up with is he isn’t really a winger and that’s where he is being deployed at the moment and if that is it, that would be suggesting SAF’s getting it wrong which I can’t say. Its a little strange though seeing we let Berbatov go at his expense. On a less controversial note, its so blahddy nice to see Tom Cleverly the way he does. I still have my heart in my mouth though whenever there is a tackle on him because we surely have screwed with d gods of footballing injuries. However, barring injuries, I do see him going far.
Now to another spot of bother, just what the fuck is wrong wid’ DeGea? Don’t we practice corner kicks and stuff during training? I have no doubt he will fill VDS’s shoes in the future but I think his training is somewhat lacking. One would think with the time he has gotten in the PL, he should have learnt the words “leave it, I’m coming for it or clear it” by now. He needs to boss those fucking aerial balls. Some tip, when he is going for the ball in the air, maybe he should go in karate style. Just whack some opposing player. That should teach the rest to stop being bullies. Seriously though, he should step up his aerial prowess. After watching the El-clasico yesterday, I couldn’t help feel he is going to chase Casillas out very soon. DeGea has the reflex of a frightened cat and that’s crazy. Just get the aerial balls, lad and you would be fine. No comment on our new formation for now. Still too early to tell. Cheers mates.
Just thinking that united have finally found a role for wayne that will make him have one of his most creative seasons. He’s always been a player that likes to roam, he’s an all action footballer that wants to be involved. In the withdrawn role, he can dictate play and with the amount forwards united have, we can afford to play him deeper. That diamond formation I think is a recipe against the best teams. We’ve never tried it but I can see it hopefully bearing fruit in europe and in the league. A formation I feel is built to get the best out of players like anderson, cleverley, kagawa, rooney, RVP with carrick or fletch being at the base of the midfield. Scholes is effective off the bench. The importance of wingers can’t be forgotten if things don’t work though.
@ lawman ten 16.44pm I feel ya brother. Hope we’re right pal. Would love that. I rekon pep would relish wourking with the boss. Great thing to have any cv. Got enough class to not let ego stop it happening… Really excited by this notion me.
Iron brand – de gea simply wasn’t used to the constant long punt and crosses Into the box, with rugged players attacking it. Physically, it must have been a shell shock and demanding but I feel he’s a step ahead of lindegaard. United knew exactly what they were buying, what they bought was potential and with that comes a roller-coaster ride to him fulfilling it. We have to be patient.
Regarding welbeck, For me, it has nothing to do with talent, it’s more to do with composure which I feel will hopefully come with more game time and experience. His all round play is very good and only wayne & RVPcan claim to be stronger at that at the moment. His work-rate is immense as wel. Not all players develop at the same time, certainties such as that is unrealistic but given time and support, he’ll hopefully blossom….
Samuel @ 01:12: “A formation I feel is built to get the best out of players”
That’s the key – fit the “formation” to the players.
Welbeck frustrates due to his lack of finishing. He does all the right things to get into a scoring/assisting position and then bottles the attempt.
His game lacks composure on the ball in the box. He runs wild to get there, then flashes for a split second before having a go. You can see that he is thinking on the ball. Not a good trait to start thinking on the ball when he needs to just swing his leg through it.
Composure comes with confidence. The more he plays, the closer he comes to feeling the game.
Right now he thinks too much.
ha.
thank god the real Shinji isn’t as much of a cunt as the one we have on the Mancunian Republik!
ha.
thank god the real Shinji isn’t as much of a cunt as the one we have on the Mancunian Republik!
fucking iPad.
The goal keeping debate. Hmm well the issue here is that de gea has enormous potential and lindergard is more stable but has less potential. The problem is That are you willing to play a keeper every game to enable him to fulfil his potential but he may cost us goals by making mistakes. In the long run you cannot develop shot stopping skills as they are to do with reflex which is more natural while pressence in the area etc is something u can develop. Brings me to the conclusion that rotating is the only solution. We play over 50 games a season and 25 games each goalkeeper is more than fair. De gea needs the experience but in some games lindergard steady hands will be helpful.
lol goat always cracks me up.
Spot on about the toddler Tiote. What a retard.
And i still think Sir Alex is overcautious when he let the yougsters get a start in our first team. Pogba and Fryers left because of it. But it is always beautiful when u see one of our flowers starting to bloom.
To count the Da silvas as our own products…well that is simply not true. He was 18 when he arrived and almost immidiatly got some chances in the A-team. Where do we draw the line for a player that we produced? Rooney? DDG?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2214924/Ravel-Morrison-set-ditched-Birmingham.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DSportsmail%2BReporter haha!
Regarding the diamond formation.
i think it was slightly unbalanced vs newcastle. but it paid off because of their weak defence and our team’s excellent play.
against some of the tougher teams, ‘d like us to replace welbeck with right footed CM, maybe fletcher when he’s fully fit, or move clev to the right and play ando on the left of the diamond..
kagawa, rooney and rvp can play as a fluid front three, any one of them can drop back and link play.
think it would be more lethal that way…
DDG
rafa smalling evans evra
clev/fletch carrick ando/clev
kagawa
rvp rooney
it would be extremely narrow, but also really unpredictable in an attacking sense.
Our youth system is excellent.. however they all are maybe a year off from really making the step up..
the only player i see really breaking in this year is tunnicliffe.
the thing with the current youth team is mainly that they are physically slight. also who are we to decide when they are ready?
guys criticize fergie for bringing on scholes and giggs in the last match when he could have got on youth players. thing is, giggs, scholes beckham etc were a rare bunch. youth players of that calibre come along ever so often. look at ravel morrison for example.. he had the chance to break in, but his impatience cost him his career..
Phelan has been Sir Alex’s right hand man during two Premier League title campaigns, a Club World Cup, two League Cups and guided Manchester United to two Champions League finals. As First Team Coach, Manchester United won three Premier League titles, one FA Cup, a League Cup, and a Champions League.
carlos queiroz stats :
Premier League (3): 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
FA Cup (1): 2003–04
League Cup (1): 2005–06
FA Charity/Community Shield (2): 2007, 200
UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008
if phelan won that much with united, he obviously can’t be as bad as you say. we reached two champions league finals, only to be defeated by a much better team. im not sure how CQ would’ve prevented that.
right shinji? maybe you should go clean coaches? just an idea.
also our worst spell with a horrendous midfield coincided with CQ being fergie’s no. 2, so now what would you have him do?
Tobbs Cheers Here is another from the telegraph.
Ravel Morrison….. Not a pretty read.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/9595036/West-Ham-midfielder-Ravel-Morrison-in-more-trouble-as-Lee-Clark-and-Birmingham-look-to-end-loan-spell-early.html
Wasted talent, brain check required to save this kid, utterly troublesome no wonder sir alex offloaded him
T – fergie knows the right time play them. They all possess talent but you have to introduce them to the top level gradually. I don’t think he’s overly cautious, he picks a younger when he deems them ready. Rafael for example has gathered so many appearances, the brazilian has not looked back since his debut at 18 and was certainly ready. It’s simple, all the younger have to step up and show reliability added with talent. The manager has never shirked away from playing youth, it’s what brings him the most joy, watching a younger player develop and fufill their promise.
From united to west ham then a championship club who wish to off load him . A negative working model of how not to conduct oneself can prove useful to other youngsters. Pity he’s so talented and could have been a united player of the future.
@ Masafu Musalo Ezra says:
No, i dont see that…maybe i m blind….I have no time to tell you how many good players came from RM youth sistem…you cant even imagine…
Like Costas say….we could have more players from youth sistem if SAF gave them a chance. Some of them got a chance, some of them didnt…
Another case of “talent is not enough” regarding morrison. He has ability but doesn’t look comitted enough to cultivate it. Temprament is an important key to making it as a great or ending up behind those with such lofty status. C.Ronaldo for example, for all his obvious talent, has put in the shift to be the player he is today (partly aided by united of course). Morrison i’m afraid is heading downwards and it’s not with delight that I say this but with disappointment as i’ve watched him develop at youth level, felt he was bound to make that step up but bad attitude has destroyed a potentially blossoming career at united. He’s not ready to change and has a terrible personality drawing him back.
Fergie is not one to give up on younger players but even the master puppeteer of youth developing can pack it in when he sees a lack of desire and hunger from younger players who have not made it yet. Pogba and fryers, two big time charlies that demand they should be lifted to dizzying heights without stepping their game up or proving anything. They aren’t cut out for manchester united’s philosophy, rightly kicked out or in fryers’ case, abscond.
Looking through united’s youth system now, i’m brimming with delight. Not for a while have we seen a collection of talents waiting to make the step up. All seem to possess the right attitude and all I hope are wanting to put the shift in. Talents lie in the club, we just have to be patient because if they hopefully step up, they will fly the club’s flag. For me (and I don’t know about anyone else), I get great satisfaction in watching the younger players’ exuberance in their first steps at the highest level. I prefer to see them in the team, more so than any marquee signing. Watching barca name 8 of their youth product in the team has gotta be something we aspire to and I believe and hope we get close to that at least some-day, won’t be easy but it’s achieveable. I also understand you need that right blend, quality players have to be signed as wel. Patience patience and patience is needed.
Another case of “talent is not enough” regarding morrison. He has ability but doesn’t look comitted enough to cultivate it. Temprament is an important key to making it as a great or ending up behind those with such lofty status. C.Ronaldo for example, for all his obvious talent, has put in the shift to be the player he is today (partly aided by united of course). Morrison i’m afraid is heading downwards and it’s not with delight that I say this but with disappointment as i’ve watched him develop at youth level, felt he was bound to make that step up but bad attitude has destroyed a potentially blossoming career at united. He’s not ready to change and has a terrible personality drawing him back.
Fergie is not one to give up on younger players but even the master puppeteer of youth developing can pack it in when he sees a lack of desire and hunger from younger players who have not made it yet. Pogba and fryers, two big time charlies that demand they should be lifted to dizzying heights without stepping their game up or proving anything. They aren’t cut out for manchester united’s philosophy, rightly kicked out or in fryers’ case, abscond.
Looking through united’s youth system now, i’m brimming with delight. Not for a while have we seen a collection of talents waiting to make the step up. All seem to possess the right attitude and all I hope are wanting to put the shift in. Talents lie in the club, we just have to be patient because if they hopefully step up, they will fly the club’s flag. For me (and I don’t know about anyone else), I get great satisfaction in watching the younger players’ exuberance in their first steps at the highest level. I prefer to see them in the team, more so than any marquee signing. Watching barca name 8 of their youth product in the team has gotta be something we aspire to and I believe and hope we get close to that at least some-day, won’t be easy but it’s achieveable. I also understand you need that right blend, quality players have to be signed as wel. Patience patience and patience is needed…
It’s a complete myth that the manager does not give youth a chance. He’s just not daft enough to throw them in if he doesn’t deem them ready. The ladder to the top level has to be climbed on carefully, you can’t rush it.
New thread up folks
I think Ninja is bin dipper in disguise.
Absolutely samuel, you are spot on, one younger player I think will make it big in top level is angelo heriquez, a very versatile player and seems to posses all the ability required to succeed in top level. Watching rooney today and the shift he putted temperament wise, bring this thought everybody has been talking about, sir alex is a great menguider really brought the wayneboy’s attitude and temperament to a level of a top drawer professional. Great job he did to put wazza on the right frame of mind, now ripping the rewards his performance vs newcastle still bring me to tear commitment and passion wise really chuffed we have him here.
DENTON
im sorry for da poor gramma i hope i dina offend ye. im so so sorry m8
my macbook changes fucking words all the time so not much i can do there im afraid cause i aint going back through a bloody post to change some of the words…..but is that all you have to winge about?
But didn’t everyone say we bought all our titles? Those tossers.