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	<title>Comments on: Fergie&#8217;s Liverpool Dig Falls On Deaf Ears</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did everyone who sent off Roshan&#039;s letter get a crushing reply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did everyone who sent off Roshan&#8217;s letter get a crushing reply?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all, you are alright Craig. We&#039;ll see come Friday what Sir Alex as to say about it, the Amount of times i&#039;ve sat in Old Trafford and not seen fans want to stand and shout is what I&#039;m talking about. it is generally the smaller ground where away fans make al the noise and i&#039;m sure Old Trafford is not the only place with stupid stewarding laws. It is very true that a lot of the times people expect United to score 3 or 4 goals per game and when things get a bit patchy the  players need us. I definately understand that alot of loud, supportive followers cannot share their passion with the players and other fans because they are told not to but I just can&#039;t get as upset about what Alex has said like some people on here. 
Manchester United andit&#039;s fans are always going to be easy targets for anything controversial, it&#039;s what we&#039;ve all had to put up with!

my final point is that, while i understand why you will be annoyed with what Sir Alex has said, I fully back him, 70 thousand United fans should always make more noise than the 3 thousand travelling ones. Friday&#039;s press conference will also, probably see him remain diplomatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all, you are alright Craig. We&#8217;ll see come Friday what Sir Alex as to say about it, the Amount of times i&#8217;ve sat in Old Trafford and not seen fans want to stand and shout is what I&#8217;m talking about. it is generally the smaller ground where away fans make al the noise and i&#8217;m sure Old Trafford is not the only place with stupid stewarding laws. It is very true that a lot of the times people expect United to score 3 or 4 goals per game and when things get a bit patchy the  players need us. I definately understand that alot of loud, supportive followers cannot share their passion with the players and other fans because they are told not to but I just can&#8217;t get as upset about what Alex has said like some people on here.<br />
Manchester United andit&#8217;s fans are always going to be easy targets for anything controversial, it&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve all had to put up with!</p>
<p>my final point is that, while i understand why you will be annoyed with what Sir Alex has said, I fully back him, 70 thousand United fans should always make more noise than the 3 thousand travelling ones. Friday&#8217;s press conference will also, probably see him remain diplomatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Zae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Scott, but I would disagree with some points. 

Fears over the club losing its soul are shown to be unfounded so far. Nothing has really changed since the Glazers took over and the cruel exploitation of the merchandising capabilities of the club has started long before the Glazers.

Ticket prices increased but still lower than at most London clubs - and I must ask, would they have increased had the PLC remained in charge? I think so. The automatic scheme stinks, that&#039;s what must be scrapped.

And on Fergie: I agree with the spokesman of the trust, it&#039;s just bleeding difficult to make enough noise in such a huge stadium if you&#039;re sitting. Much easier to make yourself heard at Craven Cottage when the ground is much smaller. It is quite annyoing that even in the moments of high excitement, stewards often do everything to make everyone sit down. A bit of consideration from their part would do a world of good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Scott, but I would disagree with some points. </p>
<p>Fears over the club losing its soul are shown to be unfounded so far. Nothing has really changed since the Glazers took over and the cruel exploitation of the merchandising capabilities of the club has started long before the Glazers.</p>
<p>Ticket prices increased but still lower than at most London clubs &#8211; and I must ask, would they have increased had the PLC remained in charge? I think so. The automatic scheme stinks, that&#8217;s what must be scrapped.</p>
<p>And on Fergie: I agree with the spokesman of the trust, it&#8217;s just bleeding difficult to make enough noise in such a huge stadium if you&#8217;re sitting. Much easier to make yourself heard at Craven Cottage when the ground is much smaller. It is quite annyoing that even in the moments of high excitement, stewards often do everything to make everyone sit down. A bit of consideration from their part would do a world of good.</p>
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		<title>By: craig mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom F - No matter how you want to put Fergie&#039;s comments in a chocolate box, and tie it up with a friggin pink ribbon, I saw the interview on Sky and MUTV, and he was having a dig at the fans.   Call it the atmosphere as much as you like, but by atmosphere Fergie means the noise and interaction coming from the fans!!!!!!!.   Much of Roshan&#039;s comments are spot on.   He is obviously passionate and loyal as F*** to Fergie and the club, and the email he wants us to send to David Gill has VERY STRONG POINTS.   NOT having a go at you Tom F, your opinion is as valied as mine,  we&#039;re both just saying things as we see them.   Life is all about opinions, and these are mine.   Fergie by his comments has given media and other club fans, the opportunity and weapons to attack ManU fans YET AGAIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom F &#8211; No matter how you want to put Fergie&#8217;s comments in a chocolate box, and tie it up with a friggin pink ribbon, I saw the interview on Sky and MUTV, and he was having a dig at the fans.   Call it the atmosphere as much as you like, but by atmosphere Fergie means the noise and interaction coming from the fans!!!!!!!.   Much of Roshan&#8217;s comments are spot on.   He is obviously passionate and loyal as F*** to Fergie and the club, and the email he wants us to send to David Gill has VERY STRONG POINTS.   NOT having a go at you Tom F, your opinion is as valied as mine,  we&#8217;re both just saying things as we see them.   Life is all about opinions, and these are mine.   Fergie by his comments has given media and other club fans, the opportunity and weapons to attack ManU fans YET AGAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roshan, when it matters Ferguson does definately remain diplomatic, not about his players performance, not about the refferees decisions, not about opposing players or managers during matches, but after watching his press conferences every week, there are certain situations which he will say &#039;&#039;I&#039;m not getting into that&quot;. He does it when it&#039;s serious, he did it when it matters. He is far too experienced to get involved in down talking the Club he has done so much for..

HIS COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE, HE DIDNT SAY THE FANS WERE BEING TOO QUIET. INSTEAD OF SEEING IT AS A DIG AT FANS, MAYBE IT&#039;S A DIG AT THE OVER THE TOP HEALTH AND SAFETY RULES IN PLACE IN ALL STADIUMS WHICH I&#039;M SURE HE DIDN&#039;T MAKE-UP. MAYBE AT THE OVER THE TOP SECURITY WHICH STOPS FANS IN SOME AREAS STANDING OR CHEERING, HE NEVER MADE THAT UP EITHER. HE IS NOT A STUPID MAN, SUPPORT HIM, HE WANTS THE BEST FOR OUR PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roshan, when it matters Ferguson does definately remain diplomatic, not about his players performance, not about the refferees decisions, not about opposing players or managers during matches, but after watching his press conferences every week, there are certain situations which he will say &#8221;I&#8217;m not getting into that&#8221;. He does it when it&#8217;s serious, he did it when it matters. He is far too experienced to get involved in down talking the Club he has done so much for..</p>
<p>HIS COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE, HE DIDNT SAY THE FANS WERE BEING TOO QUIET. INSTEAD OF SEEING IT AS A DIG AT FANS, MAYBE IT&#8217;S A DIG AT THE OVER THE TOP HEALTH AND SAFETY RULES IN PLACE IN ALL STADIUMS WHICH I&#8217;M SURE HE DIDN&#8217;T MAKE-UP. MAYBE AT THE OVER THE TOP SECURITY WHICH STOPS FANS IN SOME AREAS STANDING OR CHEERING, HE NEVER MADE THAT UP EITHER. HE IS NOT A STUPID MAN, SUPPORT HIM, HE WANTS THE BEST FOR OUR PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS.</p>
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		<title>By: austin reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>austin reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sad 2 c every1 cryin ova saf,s comments. atmosphere been dire since all seats come in. sing or stay at home. its got nowt to do wiv the glazers. press an all abu&#039;s r lovin this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sad 2 c every1 cryin ova saf,s comments. atmosphere been dire since all seats come in. sing or stay at home. its got nowt to do wiv the glazers. press an all abu&#8217;s r lovin this!</p>
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		<title>By: Roshan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bollox is what it is, Fergie is harly known to mince words despite his position and if he does feel strongly about something he won&#039;t toe the line of diplomacy just because it will save his arse. If there was something wrong with the owners why nor wait to hear it out from him? Why do you want to believe that you know better than the man who knows all being at the helm for over 2 decades? Talking about the crowd, there have been a lot of mails that have been delivered to David Gill&#039;s personal e-mail account to propose that a separate section of the crowd be allowed to sing aloud all game, considering that rules right now have become so stupid that you can be tossed out of the staduim if you as much as stand. Stop whining and start mailing.


in light of fergie&#039;s recent comments some united fans have come up with the idea to improve the atmpsphere at old trafford anyway in order for the club to take notice we need enough people to send this to david gill, anyone can see that we have the best interest of the club and fans at heart so heres the email


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david.gill@manutd.co.uk

To Manchester United Football Club

Following on from the comments made by the boss Sir Alex Ferguson about the atmosphere at Old Trafford in his own words he has summed it all up in one paragraph “It’s all very well saying the players need to play to get the crowd going, for them to respond. But in situations like today we need the fans to get behind us. At times it was like a funeral. It was so quiet. I don’t think that helped us.” 
That comment has stirred a bit of anger not to the boss but the club, fans like us who go to the game sing our hearts out for 90 minutes and people are not joining in because they have no passion for our club, this of which is the clubs fault by pricing out the loyal supporters the ones who will be there supporting the team after Sir Alex after the Glazers and after anything else, we the supporters are the back bone of our club. The loyal supporters want an atmosphere, Sir Alex wants an atmosphere also the players want us to get behind them but it can’t and won’t happen until the vocal fans are together. We are proposing that there should be a Vocal Section at Old Trafford where the like minded loyal supporters can get behind our team vocally, Sir Alex himself has said the players need lifting by the fans, so there is no reason why this shouldn’t and couldn’t’ happen.



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please could all fans send this to the club (email adress is above) be you from manchester, london , even the likes of india or portugal , your input and loyalty could help improve the clubs atmosthphere hugely and in turn improve the club as a whole the club that you love. thanks a lot hope you all see sense and send the club an email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bollox is what it is, Fergie is harly known to mince words despite his position and if he does feel strongly about something he won&#8217;t toe the line of diplomacy just because it will save his arse. If there was something wrong with the owners why nor wait to hear it out from him? Why do you want to believe that you know better than the man who knows all being at the helm for over 2 decades? Talking about the crowd, there have been a lot of mails that have been delivered to David Gill&#8217;s personal e-mail account to propose that a separate section of the crowd be allowed to sing aloud all game, considering that rules right now have become so stupid that you can be tossed out of the staduim if you as much as stand. Stop whining and start mailing.</p>
<p>in light of fergie&#8217;s recent comments some united fans have come up with the idea to improve the atmpsphere at old trafford anyway in order for the club to take notice we need enough people to send this to david gill, anyone can see that we have the best interest of the club and fans at heart so heres the email</p>
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<p><a href="mailto:david.gill@manutd.co.uk">david.gill@manutd.co.uk</a></p>
<p>To Manchester United Football Club</p>
<p>Following on from the comments made by the boss Sir Alex Ferguson about the atmosphere at Old Trafford in his own words he has summed it all up in one paragraph “It’s all very well saying the players need to play to get the crowd going, for them to respond. But in situations like today we need the fans to get behind us. At times it was like a funeral. It was so quiet. I don’t think that helped us.”<br />
That comment has stirred a bit of anger not to the boss but the club, fans like us who go to the game sing our hearts out for 90 minutes and people are not joining in because they have no passion for our club, this of which is the clubs fault by pricing out the loyal supporters the ones who will be there supporting the team after Sir Alex after the Glazers and after anything else, we the supporters are the back bone of our club. The loyal supporters want an atmosphere, Sir Alex wants an atmosphere also the players want us to get behind them but it can’t and won’t happen until the vocal fans are together. We are proposing that there should be a Vocal Section at Old Trafford where the like minded loyal supporters can get behind our team vocally, Sir Alex himself has said the players need lifting by the fans, so there is no reason why this shouldn’t and couldn’t’ happen.</p>
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<p>please could all fans send this to the club (email adress is above) be you from manchester, london , even the likes of india or portugal , your input and loyalty could help improve the clubs atmosthphere hugely and in turn improve the club as a whole the club that you love. thanks a lot hope you all see sense and send the club an email.</p>
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		<title>By: denton davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>denton davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the other posters - the kerfuffle about the Glazers is a form of Luddism.  If the &quot;traditional&quot; fans want to blame anyone then Louis Edwards is the real villain of the story - taking the team public and making a hundred million quid from his good fortune and great timing (i.e., the maturing of Fergy and the onset of satellite broadcasting, abetted by a terrific marketing department).  And, what about Magner and his pal, the other Irish horse-owner, who sold out to the Glazers for anohter hundred million pound profit.

As regards starving the team - the spending has been appropriate for such a hugely profitable enterprise that needs to stay at the top (or near the top) to continue its marketing successes.

Face it, this is now a business and it has become a hugely profitable business for people like Edwards, Magner, and the Glazers.  The whole issue of the debt is just head-in--the-sand silliness.  For over three hundred years the British state has been &quot;in debt&quot; and the sky didn&#039;t fall in.  Chicken Littles should take note !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the other posters &#8211; the kerfuffle about the Glazers is a form of Luddism.  If the &#8220;traditional&#8221; fans want to blame anyone then Louis Edwards is the real villain of the story &#8211; taking the team public and making a hundred million quid from his good fortune and great timing (i.e., the maturing of Fergy and the onset of satellite broadcasting, abetted by a terrific marketing department).  And, what about Magner and his pal, the other Irish horse-owner, who sold out to the Glazers for anohter hundred million pound profit.</p>
<p>As regards starving the team &#8211; the spending has been appropriate for such a hugely profitable enterprise that needs to stay at the top (or near the top) to continue its marketing successes.</p>
<p>Face it, this is now a business and it has become a hugely profitable business for people like Edwards, Magner, and the Glazers.  The whole issue of the debt is just head-in&#8211;the-sand silliness.  For over three hundred years the British state has been &#8220;in debt&#8221; and the sky didn&#8217;t fall in.  Chicken Littles should take note !</p>
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		<title>By: Whiteside10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiteside10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was listening to a phone-in on the radio this morning about the lack of noise at OT, and one fella called in suggesting he would like to take the Scousers / Celtic Park lead and have a decent anthem belting out just before kick-off... He reckoned it would get the crowd going, as well as the players... Any thoughts on this?
The Glazers? I&#039;m tending to side with the other enties on this one - can&#039;t complain so far... although I have noticed the club&#039;s novel way of raising transfer funds - let half a dozen players on the loose in town, then fine &#039;em a million quid each. Hey presto! There&#039;s a quarter of Berbatov&#039;s fee raked in already... It could catch on - just think of the Newcastle transfer kitty that could be generated from Joey Barton alone... 
Anyway, I digress. I agree with Tom F&#039;s points... Let&#039;s hope he gets the right response... And that the stewards can help, rather than hinder the atmosphere...
Lastly, just to pick up on the Fergie bashing, I tend to reserve that for when his (albeit rare) dodgy team selections... I&#039;m thinking &#039;leaving Ronaldo at home at Bolton&#039; (surely put him on the bench if you want to rest him), and, as you have pointed out in previous threads, his team selection at West Ham... Although who am I to criticise!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to a phone-in on the radio this morning about the lack of noise at OT, and one fella called in suggesting he would like to take the Scousers / Celtic Park lead and have a decent anthem belting out just before kick-off&#8230; He reckoned it would get the crowd going, as well as the players&#8230; Any thoughts on this?<br />
The Glazers? I&#8217;m tending to side with the other enties on this one &#8211; can&#8217;t complain so far&#8230; although I have noticed the club&#8217;s novel way of raising transfer funds &#8211; let half a dozen players on the loose in town, then fine &#8216;em a million quid each. Hey presto! There&#8217;s a quarter of Berbatov&#8217;s fee raked in already&#8230; It could catch on &#8211; just think of the Newcastle transfer kitty that could be generated from Joey Barton alone&#8230;<br />
Anyway, I digress. I agree with Tom F&#8217;s points&#8230; Let&#8217;s hope he gets the right response&#8230; And that the stewards can help, rather than hinder the atmosphere&#8230;<br />
Lastly, just to pick up on the Fergie bashing, I tend to reserve that for when his (albeit rare) dodgy team selections&#8230; I&#8217;m thinking &#8216;leaving Ronaldo at home at Bolton&#8217; (surely put him on the bench if you want to rest him), and, as you have pointed out in previous threads, his team selection at West Ham&#8230; Although who am I to criticise!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaushik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, you dont need to stand up to make noise! at least you have the chance to watch your  team at old trafford. come on, if u r a united fan, support ur team instead of complaining...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, you dont need to stand up to make noise! at least you have the chance to watch your  team at old trafford. come on, if u r a united fan, support ur team instead of complaining&#8230;</p>
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