Manchester United have today confirmed that Darren Fletcher will take an extended break from football for health reasons.
Fletcher has been suffering from ulcerative colitis for some time which has lead to long periods on the sidelines.
The club’s medical staff have advised that he takes time out from playing to give him the best “chance possible of achieving full remission once again.”
Get well soon, Fletch.
What is ulcerative colitis?
Ulcerative colitis is a type of inflammatory bowel disease that affects the lining of the large intestine (colon) and rectum.
The cause of ulcerative colitis is unknown. People with this condition have problems with the immune system, but it is not clear whether immune problems cause this illness.
About half of patients with ulcerative colitis have mild symptoms. Patients with more severe ulcerative colitis tend to respond less well to medications.
Permanent and complete control of symptoms with medications is unusual. Cure is only possible through complete removal of the large intestine. The risk of colon cancer increases in each decade after ulcerative colitis is diagnosed.
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Doesn’t sound good
Rumours of Crohns going around. Important to remember his health is far more important than him playing for us.
get well soon fletch!
Now it becomes clearer? Get well soon Fletch lad. Puts football into perspective. 19
Well that explains it. Dear me. Get well soon Fletch.
So our options until Ando returns are Carrick, Giggs, Jones and Tom (who no one knows when will return)? Doesn’t sound good.
Good luck Fletch. Let’s get you back to lift the trophy in May 2012
Horrid for him.
Not wanting to be too cynical, but on the plus side, is this the key that opens the Glazers’ January warchest?
Doesn’t sound good at all…
Get well soon Fletch..
his energy in midfield of the park has been thoroughly missed
our options are park, giggs, jones, carrick. fingers crossed no more injuries
More bad news for us. This is really, really bad; we’re down to the bare bones now. Well, that likely explains why Fletch hasn’t quite performed since his return.
To be honest, we shouldn’t be debating who to sign at this minute. I wish Fletch all the best.
Devastating!
Fletcher, will miss your energy on the park! An awesome box to box midfielder, one of the most underrated youngsters we have produced. Could have easily played 600 games for us. Hope you recover soon! If not, you shall always be remembered as a red legend!
“Over the past year he has had several absence periods which we have attributed to a viral illness in order to respect his right to medical confidentiality. Darren has, in fact, been suffering from ulcerative colitis (a chronic inflammatory bowel condition) for some time preceding this.”
Not a doctor or a dietologist, but if you are suffering from something like this, is bulking up the right decision?
Anyway, if the club knew about this since March, it makes the decision not to sign a CM even more buffling.
Get well soon Fletch,
@kanchelskis don’t get your hopes up, in Red Issue they’re stating that the Glazers will not buy until this bond issue is resolved!!!
LUHG
Get well Fletch. I have to say in some strange way this is a blessing in disguise because now we HAVE to get a midfielder in January and i don’t care Fergie you MUST sign one or we are going to look foolish playing strikers in CM.
A club statement read: ‘On behalf of Darren Fletcher, Manchester United wishes to announce that he is taking an extended break from football for health reasons. Over the past year he has had several absence periods which we have attributed to a viral illness in order to respect his right to medical confidentiality. Darren has, in fact, been suffering from ulcerative colitis (a chronic inflammatory bowel condition) for some time preceding this.’
‘Whilst he was able to maintain remission of symptoms for a considerable period this has proved more difficult recently and Darren’s continued desire to play and his loyalty to both his club and country has probably compromised the chances of optimising his own health and fitness. He has therefore accepted medical advice to take an extended break from the demands of training and playing in order to afford the best chance possible of achieving full remission once again.’
‘We request that his privacy is respected and hope that the removal of the additional stress associated with speculation regarding his health will also aid his recovery.’
Get well,Fletcherinho
Heartbreaking news that about Fletcher. Gut-wrenching actually.
As bad as Vidic’ malaise. Poor Fletch must have been suffering in silence for a while
We will really miss you, get well son!
KR: There’s no blessing here whatsoever. Fergie wont sign anyone. His unwillingness to buy a midfielder is well documented. Anderson and Cleverley will be like “new signings”, that is untill they get injured again.
The lad sat on the bench away at Basel! Tough cookie. It didn’t make any sense not to play him last Wednesday. We know the reason, now.
Horrible news. Best wishes go out to Darren Fletcher, get your health in gear first worry about the footy later. Club will definitely stand by him.
As callous as this may sound at this moment if Carrick gets injured we have no orthodox central midfielders.
@ Costas 15:16 Spot on.
@ onlygodknows – I sincerely hope thats not the case, and if that is true you’ll still have folk on here sucking them off claiming they are “great owners”
My Mrs has Chrohns which is basically very similar to Colitis, so know all about the symptoms and can understand why Fletcher would need to have a break now hes in a bad flare up period. Hopefully he can get it back under control with medication and rest and come back to being the player we know he is.
P.S Can understand now why his forms dipped over last year or so living with the condition. He has shown great courage to continue playing throughout this period and for how long hes been suffering. Big Respect.
Passe, don’t make me more depressed about United’s midfield than i already am
Fuck me! Gutted!! Two bombshells in a week!! I hope you make it back fletch!!
It might have to become worse before it gets better pal…
What the fuck is this season all about. Damn injuries messes things up again and again.
Get well soon Fletch, of course your health is the most important thing for you and for us.
But fuck me this season really puts everything to the test, and now this??
As any health-care professional would know, the chance of this syndrome turning into chronic longterm disability is quiet big.
Best of luck to him
get well soon fletch dont sound that good tho.
Yes, the truth is out and we really should wish that he makes a full recovery even if he never plays football again. And yet we had posts casting doubts and raising all sorts of conspiracy theories. Hoping the players will grit their teeth and get through this festive fixture cram with excellent results to give Fletcher some mental support.
Poor bloke hope he gets well soon must be awful to have to put ur football career on hold like that but his health is more important than anything.
If there really is no chance of spending in Jan, and Fergie knows this, he needs to start making room for Pogba, Morrison and maybe Tunnicliffe (bring him back from loan) in our matchday squads, and hoping we get some games won in 60 minutes so he can give them some gametime.
Even if it’s only so they’re around towards the end of the season to provide solid backup to Carrick, Anderson, Cleverley and Giggs.
My god Fletch. I’m gutted for you mate. I really am. Fuck football. Sometimes things actually are more important.
Fletch, I love ya man. I mean that. Wishing you all the strength in the world.
Thank God we signed Phil Jones. He will get a extended run in midfield. Can’t see Fergie buying anyone. Maybe a loan signing? Or, recall Tunni? Not many options.
@ kanchelskis – 15.45 Agree with that pal, has to be one or the other can only get away with square pegs in round holes a certain number of times. Have a feeling may see Tony V in there at some point.
Devastating news, but as ‘Mes’ says above, “Fuck football. Sometimes things actually are more important.”
Get well soon Fletch
Bad, bad news. Get well soon Fletch
Get well soon Fletcherinho, our thoughts are with you. You’ll be surely missed.
Now let’s go make it champ20ns for Fletcher and Vida!
#Believe 20
Dear Darron Gibson,
If you have any consistent ability, aside from ripping the odd goal from distance, now is your time to prove EVERYBODY that you’re worthy of wearing THE shirt of Manchester United.
All we ask is that Gibbo can be a reliable squad player and do a job when called upon. Come on son, step up your game.
KR? Are you fucking serious?
This is Darren Fletcher we’re talking about, not some no mark cunt from Stoke.
Show some fucking respect for god sake cos you’re looking a lot more pissed off about what this means to your depression about our midfield than what it means to an utterly fantastic and epically brave servant to our club who has contributed much to make all of us happy. The run up to the Champs League against Chelsea especially.
He deserves a fuck load more respect off you.
Really sad to hear this wish u all the best fletch get well soon.
BRING BACK BECKS
All the best Fletch… I’ve got ulcerative colitis and I’ve mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, he now has my total respect and his success will no doubt come as a big boost for fellow sufferers. On the other hand, for those not in the know, this is bad news- you don’t ever ‘recover’ from the condition, just put it to bed for a little while, and theres a whole lot of related conditions like anaemia from the bleeding which completely drains your energy. Let’s hope he still has a few good years in him, and again I wish him all the best
Get well soon Fletch.What a jinxed season.
Fret not reds coz the harder the battle,the sweeter the victory.
really sad to hear this get well soon fletch .
This is very sad news and Darren really doesn’t deserve this. Considerations about who United should sign to replace him feel totally wrong right now, except perhaps to praise all the many ‘Big Match’ qualities Fletch brought to Manchester United – his guts, tenacity, team spirit, will-to-win, boundless energy, and match-winning attributes, including scoring improbable goals and setting up winners for others.
It must have been awful for Fletch living with this hanging over him for so many months and it’s testimony to how everyone at United must feel about him that no-one leaked this story before now. Credit to United for respecting his confidentiality and managing the intrusive questions for so long.
When I think of Darren Fletcher I remember Paul Scholes saying after the FA Cup semi finalagainst Arsenal in 2004 how the young Scot would extend Scholsey’s career by providing new ‘legs’, through his tremendous capacity for hard work and his ability to read the game and always get to where the action was at either end of the pitch. It feels now like we’re writing his footballing obituaries, but I really hope upon hope that it doesn’t come to that. This must be very difficult and dark time for Fletch and I hope to can take some comfort from the warm thoughts for a full recovery that all true United supporters must feel for him.
Get well soon, Fletch!.
What about Becks best bud, wee weiser?
Unlucky Fletch. Get well soon.
Anyhow listen to the Guardian Podcast last week?
The Glazers have taken £600 million out of the club since they took over and Untied have spent £6 million net since the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo.
Some staggering figures there. Imagine what we could have used that money for….
Get well soon, Fletcher!
黄族之永远回忆录
Get well soon Darren. Football can wait, your health is far more important.
At least now he has taken the medical advice and will have that period of recovery. Then hopefully come back and regain that form we have missed. Get well soon Fletch
We have a United’s player whose life is under threat, and we have some who only seem to concern themselves regarding whether United would/should/could get a new midfielder and whom it should be.
Seriously.
Really bad news on fletch, i thought he recovered but this is devastating for him but i hope he gets well as soon as possible because football is nothing compared to great health and happiness.
EDCUNITED – don’t hold your breath on gibbo blossoming anytime soon and this ain’t no bashing as some people will be quick to come out with in a rash but he isn’t going to improve the team, nothing in his repertoire shows he’ll make a difference, can whack them in from yards out but even his only strength is open to debate in terms of the accuracies of his shots.
YorYor
There are some fuck witts in all walks of life, including here on ROM unfortunately. I’ve taken Cedars advice and try my best to ignore their comments and just feel sorry that they have this attitude.
Get well soon Fletch. Massive blow to us and you but all us Reds love you, man!
What really hurts the most is that Fletcher lives and breathes Manchester United. You can tell who the players are that would do anything for our club. Fletcher is in the same mold as Red Nev. Long Live Fletcherinho !!!
Rightly said Sir Giles!
Devastated after reading this! Explains the weight loss and loss of energy on the field. He never looked the same since he returned. Hope he gets well soon. He has been immense for us and he certainly did not deserve this. But, Fletch has always been a fighter! I know he will fight this too.
He will be back, lads!
” It changes in the place where it is found to be gone”
Get well soon Mr Fletcher.
You get a player like Fletcher who would play on with one leg and half a lung! Then you get a cunt like Tevez who refuses to play because he isn’t allowed to move so he can earn an extra £50k per week!! Doesn’t seem fair somehow!
a very sad time for me. He’s my favourite. Thank you for giving 100% when your body wasnt so. I hope your goal vs City is voted tops at the end of the season.
Fletch worked hard but some on here have weak hearts and keep writing our season off to afraid to believe we can win it against all odds.
Bad news, real bad news. You could tell something was up, he was trying his heart out but the body was just not letting him be the Fletch we all know and love! Get well soon !
Mikekelly12, some of those have probably never lost a loved one for whatever reason, or have never loved anyone other than trophies which United has kindly provided for them.
sat on the last thread thinking why isn’t anyone saying anything about Fletch, should have figured a new thread about him was up. Truly gutted for the lad, the illness is pretty serious, i hope he gets sorted out soon.Should have known something was not quite right with him even if the club was vague with the details. That said i can undertand their reluctance to disclose all the information. The situation must have become a bit more serious.
Get well soon Fletch. From a footballing perspective King Eric must be devastated
Problem with a condition like this, there’s no timescale on a recovery. I don’t think we’ll see him again this season. Concentrate on your recovery Darren Fletcher(Football Genius)
This sucks. Fletch is my fave United player after Scholesy. Bloody unfair man. But he’ll be back, mark my words. Never gives up, full of energy. United spirit through and througj. Bloody hell, he’s never been lucky. Missed one CL final cuz of a cunt ref, anf another one because of this illness. Hope he gets well soon, and stays like that.
This sucks. Fletch is my fave United player after Scholesy. Bloody unfair man. But he’ll be back, mark my words. Never gives up, full of energy. United spirit through and througj. Bloody hell, he’s never been lucky. Missed one CL final cuz of a cunt ref, and another one because of this illness. Hope he gets well soon, and stays like that.
bozzer99 @ 15:03: “My Mrs has Chrohns which is basically very similar to Colitis, so know all about the symptoms and can understand why Fletcher would need to have a break now hes in a bad flare up period. Hopefully he can get it back under control with medication and rest and come back to being the player we know he is.”
I’ve had this problem since childhood – undiagnosed until I was 17/18 – so I well understand DarrenFletcherinho’s health problems.
I can’t believe that he will recover sufficiently to EVER be a top-level professional athlete in such a demanding sport, playing the most energy-sapping position; those demands are simply beyond getting “it back under control”. Maybe – and it’s a HUGE maybe – he can be a player but he’ll never get back to the “football genius” that thrilled us in 2008/2009.
That said, can I drive WillieRedNut crazy and suggest that it’s time for a bid to get Daniele De Rossi ?
By GOD’S GRACE Fletcher will be back, its imperative that He be given time to recover fully. He deserves far more respect than He’s been given. All the talk of buying a new mid should not be brought into this. Love You Fletcher!!!
Hideous news. We all knew summat was amiss. This will force Fergie’s hand now because if carrick gets injured we have a young Jones and one game a fortnight Giggs. Get Tunni back and Paul out of retirement.
Get well Fletch lad.
As some on here have pointed out, there are some things that are far more important in life than football. Sometimes life just isn’t fair. Get well soon Fletcher.
this is how it was reported on the Guardians 5er: “Darren Fletcher is to take an extended break from football due to ulcerative colitis, otherwise known as chronic inflammatory bowel knack”
what a bunch of disrespectful cunts
Just been on Daily Mail site where they have broke the news and Kudos to rival fans. Messages of support from Gooners, Chelsea and Blackburn fans for his never say die attitude. Nice one.
Get well soon fletch, take care !!!!! See you soon buddy!!
Mystery Virus……..I was worried did he have AIDS or something………………
Now I m really sorry to think about that…………..
He is a tough guy though……..
still remember the 2008-2009 season as well as 2009-2010 season……….probably his best to years…………..
Fletcher ….I hope to see you soon a United Jersey again
get well soon, Fletch!
You know what, even if he isnt playing, he’s a great figure to have in the locker room. His never-say-die attitude, his boundless energy and his determination are all qualities that our youth should look up to and imbibe. Still remember his epic matches against Arsenal in the CL and FA Cup. Hope he can get back to his best, and if not, then United WILL have a position on the coaching staff for him.
Thanks for the updates from those that have been through something like this. I’ve had my issues in that area of the anatomy but never something like this. I really hope he defies the odds and returns back to his best. He’s still too damn young to have seen his best days come and go. Plus, if anyone deserves to play a Ch.League final (preferably against Barcelona) it’s him.
Someone mentioned recently that this season reminded them of 05-06 and I guess they were right. Horrific injuries, our captain out for the season and an early Ch.League exit.
@Notorious
I feel that there’s more to this story than meets the eye. For example, the actual time when the club got down to the bottom of the illness. Personally I hope that we didn’t pin all of our hopes in the summer on Fletcher bulking up and getting past this instead of buying another midfielder. That wouldn’t have been wise strategy…
Costas – Looked more to me that we tried to sign someone but were okay cause of the impact Clev had on our midfield.
we didn’t expect to get so many injuries though.
The club was aware of Fletcher’s condition so there is no reason why this news should affect our transfer intent. It is very disappointing to read comments that show more concern for United than for Fletch. In every way imaginable the effect on Fletcher is and should be our only concern. That we lose his services is by-the-by. Consideration of the squad required to compete successfully should not rudely push aside our sadness for Darren, and concern for his well-being. To in any way see this news as positive is inherently wrong. Heinous some might say.
Get well Darren Fletcher. We are United with you all the way.
We put rivalries aside when something like this breaks, GENUINE Liverpool fans really hope he gets well soon. poor chap, consumate professional and all around good honest player with a great never say die attitude. Fletcher You’ll Never Walk Alone, get well soon from LFC Fans
Sorry guys. I knew about this weeks ago but kept shtum about it out of respect for Fletcher’s privacy. As Costas said, let’s hope Fletcher can overcome the odds. This is terribly unfortunate for the lad.
like king eric keeps saying, ryan tunnicliffe and a couple of others on loan may be recalled.
Fergie doesn’t wanna introduce youth quickly but as injuries keep mounting up and his reluctance to dip into the transfer market now, his hands may be forced and the young players will play more often.
I think the reason why Fergie rates fletcher more than the media or some fans would understand is his determination and drive, may not be the most talented but he makes up for it with several strings to his bow, he has dominated some quality midfielders due to his hunger and that is something Fergie appreciates and that is why he is an important member of the team, i hope he can recover soundly from this terrible illness and come back stronger.
It would be interesting to see what fergie’s next option will be in terms of midfielders or the workload on a versatile phil jones and michael carrick will double up, he may well put rooney there but as we’ve seen in the previous games, it affected his form as a striker, giggs can’t play games regularly anymore and we shouldn’t be relying on him anyway, he hasn’t got the legs or the consistency in his performances these days, decisions decisions.
Get well soon Fletcherihno…
Now……Can we PLEASE buy a midfielder?
Horrible news. I really do hope he makes a good recovery, and some day returns to being the solid player that we so thoroughly miss.
Time to Buy SAF
Dreadful news, I really feel sorry for the lad
Get well soon Fletch, we love you
Right
Just asked Dr. G and this is the following medical report:
Depending on scenario steroids will be given because the situation that Fletch is in equates to a flare up of his condition at the moment.
He probably has taken some form of medication before but because he has carried on training and playing it means the body hasn’t fully adjusted to the medication.
The good Dr. tells me that with complete rest it should subside taking anything between 3-6 months for starters.
If it gets better great – but then if not an operation – medical terminology not intended suffice to say two outcomes of that – if the op goes well get better 6 months later
If not never play again
However op is the last course of action since most of the times medication does the job.
Get will soon Fletch we all love you man
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Get Well Soon Fletch!
@King Eric It’s very nice of you to defend Pat’s wife.
FThis is first and foremost a personal tragedy for Fletch As supporters we have to face the he might never be back and / or might never return to the form he reached a couple of seasons ago.
Clearly Fergies plans have been negatively impacted. Just like Owen Hargreaves, he’ll have been factoring in a return to full form which the squad is now not going to see. I don’t think he’ll get his man in January but I do feel that this will increase Fergie’s desire to bring in someone next summer.
Get well soon Fletch!! loads of love from all of us
smartalex
thats a bit harsh. we all feel for him, even those who feel he’s not their cup of tea. The most we can do is offer our best wishes, its only natural to see how it affects the team. I’m sure he’s gutted about missing what he does for a living and playing the sport he loves. Not sure anyone see’s this as positive.
MG – Thanks for the update. A long and uncertain road ahead for Fletch. He has our best wishes!
Very sad to hear this about Fletch..
more than football, i just hope the lad fully recovers from this,
lets not kid about this,
this is infact 3rd or 4th time the same shit attacked him,
I wont be bothered even if he is off for the whole season, take care homie, we love you
Get well soon
MG
My regards to the good doctor my friend
slim
Unfortunately there are already comments looking at the positive side.
Well-meaning they may be, but I am not alone in finding it repulsive.
Anyway, our focus is naturally on the team, and any news that affects the team is voraciously consumed, regurgitated, dissected and bleached. Including this news.
Of course, that can be done without submissions that see this as fortunate, as they think it will force Sir Alex away from his intended path and onto one more aligned with their personal ideal.
Repulsive.
Who knows this might cause the RISE OF DARRON GIBSON! He better male full use of opportunity with so much injuries.
MG That doesn’t look good
Cedars Saludos!!!
KR
You are an absolute disgrace and a vile cunt….. ‘Blessing is disguise’ you say?
What a prick
soren!
Good evening my love, I am really sad about this news
Get well soon you devil. I’d rather have us outside the top 5 this season if i’m assured you come back all guns blazing to rip apart the likes of chelshit, shitty, poopers, and arse. God be with you.
Darron Gibson
CedarsDevil – It is sickening to observe delight in others misfortune, especially when it is for the dubious aim of forcing Sir Alex to change his winning ways. I’m shocked.
smartalex
You are shocked and I am bloody disgusted, that KR prick has really boiled my blood
We love you Darren Fletcher. Take the time lad, and keep the belief. You will be back, better than ever. You’ll be able to listen to the half time Manager’s talk for a start, which must help!
Anand
Very well said mate and I agree completely!!
CedarsDevil – It’s abominable.
It’s okay to make jokes about it, isn’t it? That’s different.
Bit of a bummer for Fletch. Flush it Darren, we miss your movement!
Cedars -Sad news, December has been bad.
soren
Ya it has been a bad month for us, but at least we have you here to cheer us up my love
It is absolutely terrible news, for both Darren and the club, but most of all for him personally. The club will get by, because we always do. Even if we don’t win the PL or anything else this year, everyone knows that next year, and every year, Manchester United will be a force — the one that every other PL club fears the most, and one that every club in Europe wants to avoid as much as possible, even Barcelona. But to hear that this may be the end for Fletcher, that he may have reached the peak of his career only to be denied by fate’s cruel twist, is simply terrible. For him, there may be no second chances. How terrible.
For those who missed it, I did also post an update on the previous thread, which I’ll repeat here:
Fletcher’s illness brings us to 41 so this season. For the period up to December 7, that makes it our worst in the last 10 seasons. Prior to the report of his illness, we had 40 this season, which equaled the 09/10 season as our worst.
With data for 6 clubs over 10 years each, there are 60 seasons of stats to compare. Of those 60 seasons, only three have been worse (for the period to Dec 7): Arsenal with 45 in 09/10, Spurs twice (43 in 10/11 and 42 in 02/03).
So there you have it: this season for United is one of the four worst for these six clubs over the last 10 seasons.
Gime me an “R” Gime me an “O” Gime me an “M” ha ha
“Blessing in disguise”? Makes me want to puke.
Give me an”R” Give me an”O” Give me an”M” HA HA Oops
Get well Fletch, something was up now we know. This is big stuff guys. He is sick.
Well what a difference a day makes. Just 2 points back. RVP in form and healthy. For 2 hours I will root for the Gunners.
Jones making big progress in CM.
Its like my daughter telling me ‘Its a blessing in disguise that you have kidney problems, could be a chance for me to get a new dad’
Well said Stateside.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2011/12/darren_fletcher_right_to_put_h.html?
Good article on Flectherinho. Some top comments in there, from Pat Nevin.
This is a bad illness, blessing????? wow
Give me an S an O an R an E an N
According to our Wikipedia page, Tunnicliffe’s loan period is due to end on Dec 31 anyway, so there may be no need to recall him as he should be available to us from January 1.
Sir Giles, so spot on.
DECEMBER 13, 2011 AT 16:01
Giles Oakley says:
When Fletch’s face puffed out a few weeks after they mentioned his disease/loss of weight, I knew it was UC (my wife has this horrible disease). Fletch bulked up from a combination of unhealthy (low fiber) food and steroids (which lead to fat storage in the gut and face). You get pumped with steroids to combat the disease and you cannot have fiber. A big greasy burger was the doc’s suggestion when my wife was released from the hospital. You can live with it, but it is a pain since you cannot eat raw fruits or veggies. Not good for a professional athlete. Also, he is likely getting infusions of remicade, which is a form of chemotherapy. UC is an autoimmune disease and with an immune system that nearly disappears, Fletch will be extremely exposed to other diseases. I don’t mean to sound pessimistic, but depending on the severity of his UC there is a very real possibility that this could ruin/end his career. Absolutely devastating. Hopefully he can get it all under control. Best thing to do for Fletch is keep him in your prayers.
Excellent link Paco Rabane at 18:33
smartalex
yeah i was just going to say . there goes my defense. disappointed some people look at it that way. Even if its just the football that concerns some, they can be at least sensitive about it, really disappointing comments
Sir Alex can have an available Tunnicliffe as a birthday present.
I hope he gets well soon. The Hungarian fans wish you all the best, Fletch!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001296/
That is not good news it gives me the impression there’s worse to come.I really feel for you Fletch and trust in a full recovery fuck the football.
slim – All we can do is briefly express our distaste, and keep our comments apt.
We will miss Fletcher, as we have done thus far. Our midfield has occupied RoM!
I know that often a comment is made without malice yet it is seen for how it appears so re-reading a comment before submitting it can help reduce the chance of a bad choice of words. Of course, when a slip is made, it’s reasonable (and sensible) to correct yourself.
Soren.
Are you by any chance the village idiot.
Fletch has given his all to United whenever he played in the past. Since his return this season though, he hasn’t been the same player, and now we’ve apparently got to the bottom of this. For those of us who love United, we wish to convey our best wishes to you Fletch, for a full recovery. We hope your illness can be sorted out and you can return to full fitness. We’re waiting with eagerness and anticipation. In the meantime, have a restful break.
Giles Oakley has put up a very good post on Fletch’s contribution to our team in an earlier post. He has put into writing what I have been unable to eloquently do myself. Before his actual illness was announced though, there were quite a few people on here who were unnecessarily critical of Fletch’s performances this season. I just hope these people would be man enough and gracious enough to admit their mistake and apologise to Fletch. I feel so gutted for him,
@ryan7
Thanks for the info mate. I was wondering what as the deal with the weight he gained in the summer. What can I say? Lets just hope the guy can get back to living a normal life.
Can’t believe some people are talking about replacements on a thread about one of our own’s career hanging in the balance wait till Scott starts a who will replace fletch thread show some fucking respect were not scousers.
This is likely at best to end up with the body waste being expelled into a bag attached to his torso,not in the slightest bit amusing.
soren – Aww thanks love. I just find it a bit offensive. If Pat loves her thats all that matters.
Insanity. Fletch’s illness is a blessing in disguise? Oh my God.That’s one of the most revolting statements I’ve heard so far on this blog. Makes feel like spitting on the person who wrote that statement. Honestly, is our midfield football issues, more important than our player’s health? To use this an incentive to buy another player? Its disgusting to call you a United fan, if you really are one.And in all honesty, if this was gonna happen to any rival player, i’d be keeping him in my prayers all the same. We all love football to death, but there’s some things which are way important.
I hope its not serious, this gives me some hope:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2073713/Darren-Fletcher-bowel-disease-recover-says-doctor.html
Come back strong Fletch, rest well, we love you to bits.
Fletcher is a hero. He HAS to come back – one of the last players we have whose passion is so fucking obvious. Major blow is an understatement.
Get well soon Darren!
That’s true parryheid, my bad. There is no joke here. Very sad.
I still have hope though, as I’m sure he does. His loved ones will keep him in good spirits, no doubt. They may crack a joke or two, as will doubtless his mates at United. We are all focussed on the best for Darren.
parryheid
Why the snide comment at soren eh? She is no idiot,.only one that fits that category is the person I am addressing in this post
Fletch is on the ropes, but he ain’t out yet! I won’t write him off.
Shocked and saddened.
“Freedom lost and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered” – Cicero
Get well soon, Fletch, rooting for ya.
soren
Please excuse parryheid, he has been fearful of losing his Village Idiot title since he got here.
Jealousy rules the inadequate mind.
smartalex
I see no issue with humor here, if its heart felt and not meant in a sick demented way….. My friends make fun of my kidney problems all the time, does not mean they do not wish me well
Cedars parryheid is as harsh as ditch weed. parryheid, soren is a lady doing a cheer. Then you come back with shiting in a bag, haha The best and worst of a regular.
Get well Fletch! This is awful news and I feel very sorry for him. The disease is only “curable” if they take out his large intestine and rectal lining that has side effects of having to have a shit bag installed or they can try to create an anal lining from the small intestine, also digestive and other problems. Other treatment only slows it does not cure it or stop it permanently.
Really shit. How can people talk about this being a blessing / opening for a new MF – bloody mercenaries, this is not the thread for that cold hearted fools.
This could end his career.
I guess this is what happens, inevitably, when players are related to mostly by how many goals they score, or how many assists they make, how many passes they complete, what their transfer price was, and how much they make per week. Even players who bleed United-red have become just another replaceable cog in a big clockwork machine.
Some would probably call us hypocritical in that we are not related to Fletcher and we don’t stay a mile from OT. I probably wouldn’t be this bothered if it was (just) a broken leg or even something slightly more serious that would put an end to his career – at least he’d still have a life ahead of him. But illnesses such as these where “cause is unknown” means any efforts to treat the illness is akin to grasping at straws – all current patients are no better than guinea pigs, because it is them who will be the ones to show the doctors what actually happens whenever some treatment is tried. And even then, a wrong treatment’s symptoms may not actually show up until it is way too late. It’s like trying to walk with a fracture after having been injected with morphine – just because you don’t feel a thing doesn’t mean it’s actually healed.
No one really knows how Fletcher is doing – with his kind of character, could he simply be pushing himself to be involved in training and matches, even if it’s really hurting within? Is he feeling 10 times worse when attacked by the common flu bug?
Zibbie, that link is depressing to read. This illness is evil personified. I hope he can get past it eventually.
Smartalex gave me the same advice in 18:50 like 10 moths ago, it has helped me.
I really am getting tired of how every United-related discussion seems to end with a rant on why Fergie won’t sign a centre mid. I am as baffled as anyone else, but this really sin’t the place for such a discussion. One of our best players has a major health issue and you call it a ‘blessing in disguise’.
Nauseating.
Get well soon, Fletch.
Yor Yor and NBI hello you 2.
Yor Yor this can be hideous.
NBI so what you think of Jones at MF? Looking better each game.
Get the impression some think female and can picture them choking the gaffer.idiots.
On the footballing front this has been one of the worst days for me in terms of this sad news, not since the news of Robbo’s cancer came out have I felt such emotions.
Fuck this shit and like Anand I believe it was who said, I also would not give a flying fuck if we win nothing for the next five years but rather see Fletch up and running again
The article linked by KingOfStretfordEnd at 19:08 offers us hope
“UC is a disease of the large intestine, an illness that affects one in 500 people in the United Kingdom. In two thirds of cases, the condition settles down with a good remission, but for one in three, it rumbles on. You are very unlucky to be in that third and, in that case, it would be very difficult to go back to sport. One in four people do require surgery, and that can be major surgery. The life expectancy does remain normal.”
My concern is that as the Club has been treating him for a while, it seems that Fletch already falls into the ‘unlucky third’.
ps Stats wise, 1 in 500 sufferers means Fletch is probably the only one in the Premiership.
Explosive diarrhea, is no joke.
Get well soon fletcher, we need you back asap !
Smartalex, I worked marketing Insurance on and off for 15 years with different marketing project. In the US there is medical underwriting and I learned a lot of medical conditions. You hit it spot on mate. Of those who are effected range from slight discomfort to just shot me already.
Like I said: Jealousy.
As parryheid felt “some think female and can picture them choking the gaffer.idiots” he decided to attack the lady. Brilliant. That should work.
smartalex
On this emotional day soren tried to put a smile on our faces and that lifeless miserable bastard decided to have a pop at her for no reason….. Fucking sickens me
Zibbie, I had to laugh at your “Explosive diarrhea, is no joke” !
Sorry!
I’m still laughing! I have no idea why. I guess it might be because I’m picturing a wrestler losing his retentive skills at a bad moment!
Smartalex, I have just signed on a multi media project. Young people full of life and I’m learning so so much. I now know what Smart phones are and tablets and how to inter-great them and learning more every day. hehehe. They love the old guy though.
CedarsDevil – He says he was reacting to the attention given her.
Around hear we call that ‘jealousy’, don’t know about elsewhere in the world.
More of a green hue, than red.
I call mine, But Piss. Like a cow taking a piss, but it is not piss. Always worrying can I fart just air?
Zibbie
I bet you are flirting with them young babes eh? You old fart! hahahaha
Zibbie – The old dog still has a few tricks to teach those pups. They know how to use the tools, you are able to make that work for you. Minions need their main man.
Hared a Facebook thingy at work today that poor old Fletch’s days of footie are over…. hope not…..get well soon my man
TonyBee
You on Facebook? Cannot believe that, you hardly get a smiley right pal! lol
Oh yes, so young and fresh.
I love there energy, they have taken to learning what I have to offer. Cedars I was told long ago by a lady, Zibbie you don’t just love women you like us, don’t you. And I do.
smartalex
Green with envy indeed buddy………..Sick fuck
Zibbie
Oh and I like them too buddy, just keep your Zib in your pants! (Or not!) hahaha
Well time to get ready for work. Love this place.
Get back in the sheep pen fool
Get well soon Fletch…that’s ALL that matters right now..!!!!!
Every time a women calls me Zibbie now I smile deep inside. I’m her dick. hehehehe I will read up at 11:00 pm when I get home. As I tell the young women, you can rub the belly, but those are my pants.
I’m out of here. Laters people.
Mike
Were you here in the first place? hahahaha
Take care pal
fuck me get well soon fletch football aint really that important……
mikekelly12! Yay! Hello? Oh.
Absolutely devastated for fletch all the.
Darren Fletcher is a fantastic footballer but more importantly is his health so good luck football genius see you soon.
To everyone having a go at KR fucking chill out he clearly never meant what everyone was implying he wished Fletcher well.
Giggs12Gerrard0
Hi pal and die hard K stander! KR used the words ‘blessing in disguise’ how on earth can Fletcher’s illness be a blessing of any sorts eh?
UC is a horrible condition (my gf has been in hospital for the last 3 weeks with it) and any right minded football fan wishes DF as speedy a recovery as is possible with this disease!
KR, Karl Rouge?
Kaputt Reasoning.
@cedars
Alright mate his comment has been taken out of context completely. With all our injuries to clev, ando. Vidic, and now the football genius it looked to me KR meant collectively it mat may bow force Fergie to buy. Upon hearing the news and feeling gutted for fletch that we will be short, you can’t lose the quality Darren offers and not think of the need to add.
I probably think KR is reading thinking hindsight didn’t mean blessing fletch is ill more of forcing Fergie to add that’s all mate.
I don’t think it makes him a vile cunt as you stated probably just a silly one for using the wrong words
Seeing that its close to Christmas and regardless if you celebrate it or not I will share this story with you all………….
I am the youngest of five brothers, the only one who is totally hooked on football and of course United.. I did manage to convert some of my nephews and nieces over the years though…
Ok, it was Christmas 1974, as a 7 year old child at the time and already totally in love with United I was taken to one side by my late dad for what I thought would be time for my special present and indeed it was…. He shared with me a story as to why he was so depressed the passed summer because United got relegated, I tried to understand his emotions but for a 7 year old it was difficult to comprehend. Yes I was a United supporter already, only one along with my dad in the family but I just could not understand why he was so hurt. His stories since that day about the Babes, Edwards, Best and co have affected me in ways I can never describe.
Manchester United has had such an in pact on my life that I can never put into words, I do not have the writing skills of people like Sir Giles, Stateside or Balaji… If I did I would and in all honesty write a book about it
I don’t have to be told how to pay respect to fletch, i can do that my own way and i’ve done so, don’t try influence what i post.
Now listen Cedars
Everyone has a story to tell
You just have to have the time to tell it
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I’ve sent Dr. G the regards
soren
It’s treatable so we’ll all start from there… I’m sure it’ll be okay – especially with Cedars in the house keeping spirits up
Paco Rabane
Cheers…
” this is a blessing in disguise because now we HAVE to get a midfielder in January and i don’t care Fergie you MUST sign one ”
Nothing ambiguous there Giggs12Gerrard0, but as I said at 18:50,’ when a slip is made, it’s reasonable (and sensible) to correct yourself.’ It doesn’t surprise me that people are dismayed by this comment, of course I am one of them! He probably regrets his choice of words, although who am I to know that.
Giggs12Gerrard0
Fair enough, KR is a silly cunt not a vile one! lol
Had some run ins with him in the past when he kept attacking Giggs, saying he was passed it and was a major stumbling block in youth coming through…. So I do have my reasons !
Gutted for Fletch, just caught it on the news. Hope for a speedy recovery for a true Red and A1 bloke. @ Parry. I’m the village idiot and proud of it. UTD UTD UTD.
CedarsDevil – Don’t sell your self short fella. It’s not how you present your words, but what meaning they have to you personally. As for KR, he didn’t mean it, the way it came out. Fact is, life goes on. I remember when Sir Matt passed away. We were playing Everton that weekend. Sir Alex was interviewed by Sky, I think. Anyway, he said life has to go on, but maybe for a day, it should stop. Sadly, it doesn’t stop. Fletch will be always in our thoughts. Lets win this league for him.
MG
Should have added you to the list of skilled writers pal, do forgive me
samuel – united WE stand
Your comments on this thread are great. Are just speaking generally at 20:14?
Paco Rabane
Cheers for the kind words pal….. Oh and I love the perfume by the way! hahaha
New here? If so welcome aboard
James21 – Evening my friend
This is really sad news and we all should be wishing him and his family well.
I’m hopeful he’ll be back when he is ready to do so and we’ll fight on.
Come on you Reds!
Very sad 4 fletcher very good player going 2 miss fletcher the very best 2 fletcher 4 giving us the united sumthing 2 shout about united will see it very hard in milfielder cause Anderson runs I think Sir Alex will need a milifelder 4 January come on united United will win the leauge fuck chelsea and manchester City
ah, those things about colitis sounds awful. And that explains why Fletch’s form and energy has not been as before. It is remarkable how he has been able to train and play all this time – hat’s off to have fought it so long Fletch. I really hope he will be able to recover and come back to play, he is still young. Good luck man!
@Cedars, Smartalex and Zibbie Thanks lads!!!
@parryheid I don’t like to fight so good day.
agree
soren
Ignore the fool my love, we will take care of him… Just stay as you are
Cedars – just get someone to write and publish what you have to say, don’t underestimate the power of experience. You got the ideas and passion, so work on it.
Get well soon Fletch.
soren
This is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFMO0hLaq_c
Kings!!!!
You’re fucking here? Fuck me, just brought a smile to my face………. I fucking missed you my friend
Cedars. Hope you’re well mate, stuck out nr Oxford working away this week. Windy wet and power cuts. I’m in a caravan that makes the rain sound like a bass drum, so not alot of sleep, nowhere nr the probs our Fletch is having, I have my health.
Hope Mike had a gr8 birthday bash, we may join him for the big 40. 
Samuel
Many thanks for the advice my friend, just do not have the energy to be honest….. Will always try and share as much as I can here….
Oh and Kings is here, fucking brilliant stuff
Cedars
Nothing to forgive
Over and out ROM
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James21
Ya I believe Mike had a blast, bugger was pissed throughout the weekend…. Feel sorry for him though for doing his ankle, out for the rest of the season it seems! hahaha
Enjoy them drums pal
@cedars and smartalex
Indeed gents and for all wums abus sheep shaggers and scousers we should treat as they are deserved but for our own we don’t need to be so damming.
You gents are elder statesman on here fully justified I may add, I just think blessing in disguise comment aside we should encourage different views unless its ridiculous.
All hail the Kings! Good evening truest of the True Reds! We are humbled by your presence!
Remain in our presence dear Kings, that we may bask.
How are you, friend?
What a terrible period it has been for him, sitting watching our floundering midfield knowing that if he hadnt been struck down by this unfortunate illness, he’d still be charging around the park like he was in 08/09 when he had his best season for United. So unfortunate, and it will be such a shame, for a player who was fairly limited for his first 3-4 seasons, and through hard work and determination, turned himself into one of the best midfielders in the Premier League. Such a shame, best wishes go out to him to firstly overcome his problems, and if he can, get back into the red shirt.
This is a massive loss for United though, and whilst you know you should have him in your minds over everything else, you cant help being the selfish supporter and think of the ramifications for the club. He was one of the few seasoned winners we had left in the squad, after VDS, Scholes and RedNev retired. With Vidic sustaining a potentially career changing injury at his age, Giggsy’s ability to play regularly waning faster than Rio’s and the poor form of Evra, suddenly we look incredibly thin in both quality, but just if not more importantly experience. Potentially ominous times for us, investment in experienced players, as well as in current youth (Morrison, Pogba, Tunnicliffe, Petrucci etc) is now essential. Could Scholes get back fit for a bit part role in the second half of the season? What about Beckham? I’m also starting to think the sale of John O’Shea and Wes Brown for a paltry couple of million wasn’t the best idea. They would have sat on the bench, but most importantly would have been a steady head in the dressing room. We always talk about Manchester United having “been there before in the run in” but that is less appropriate now, as so many key players are so young.
Anyway, all the best to Darren Fletcher Football Genius. Get well soon.
Giggs12Gerrard0
Very well said, I doubt people get attacked as it were for having opinions, however there are some lines that should never be crossed even by self acclaimed United fans and that is my opinion….
K stand barmy army
No wait… Stretty > K stand! hahaha
Darren Fletcher is a fine player. I was just saying to a friend a few days ago that if he was due to come back soon and get a good run, he should be named captain with vida out. Fletch knows what it’s all about and it’s a disaster to lose him for the season. One season is a small price to pay in order to gain a full recovery but from that info scot posted, it doesn’t seem too promising. Gutted. Get well soon fletch!!
CedarsDevil – Hello my friend. Hope you are well. Massive hello to both you and Sandeep, who by all accounts have given me plenty of mentions.
smartalex – Hello my friend. I’m good thank you. How are you are good sir? I heard you took a mini sabbatical from the blog too? Your presence on this blog is an absolute must.
Suggest snitch and snatch follow their own advice,more and more on this site are aware of your attempts to do people down with ridicule and I am most definately one who recognises that..Giruy don’t slip on your spunk lumps.
Like I said elsewhere, watching United without Neville, Scholes (and soon Giggs) was to be expected. But seeing us without Wes, O’Shea and Fletch is like a kick in the teeth. My main hope is that Fletcher will come back next season like Scholes did after his eye problem in 2006, but his problem is more complicated.
And of course there are no blessings in disguise. Fletcher and Vida have taken one for the team and the result is several months on the sidelines where both of them hate to be. In the last 3 seasons I dreaded any game where we didn’t have those two That’s what we are up against now. And that’s why I do have to agree with anyone that wonders what’s it going to take for the manager to strengthen his side where it’s obvious we lack cover. When Ando got injured, Fergie included Fletcher among his options even though he knew what the lad was going through. And now that makes even less sense. We haven’t bought a CM in 5 years. Not sure if the future only lies in our youth ranks, as talented as some kids may appear to be.
CedarsDevil says:
TonyBee
You on Facebook? Cannot believe that, you hardly get a smiley right pal! lol
you of course are right,…… wasn’t me on Facebook……. just one of the Young lads who understand that sort of shit….
who the fuck is snitch and snatch…..
Kings
It is really great seeing you here again pal, just ignore whatever annoys you and post away…. I missed your ABU rants!
Can’t believe some are discussing our options in midfield / will the Glazers do this or that when all our thoughts should be with Fletch. Get well soon.
Giggs12Gerrard0
We should encourage different views. It can easily happen that an over-the-top response corners a startled tourist into responding similarly, and then the original issue is lost in the halls of irrelevance. Just as we’d like the commenters to be more thoughtful, we know that anyone can say something regrettable or ridiculous. And of course they might be right, even if we’re sure they’re not.
I do think that the comment in question was deliberately severe, and even accompanied by him ‘stamping his foot’ with “we HAVE to” , ” i don’t care ” , ” Fergie you MUST ”
To be quite honest the more I read it the worse it gets! Ha Ha Ha ! !
Also, you are right, for our own we don’t need to be so damning.
ps I haven’t actually ‘damned’ him, but that’s only because someone got there before me!
pps You’re quite the elder yourself, you and your forebears (Giggs9/10Gerrard0)
kings!!! where you been man. its been a long, long time! nice to see you post again!
ToneBee
Thanks for clearing that out mate, had me worried for a minute! hahaha
Like you I am totally clueless with all this social networking crap
Get well soon Fletch!
Snitch and snatch? Probably means Dick and Harry
Sad fuck
A banner for the fighter at stretford end will be just the boost he needs
Fuck the midfield situation. We’ll play 4 – 6 – 0 if we have to and if the 10 guys have earned their badges, they’ll still murder their opponents on any given day.
Kings – I am very well, thank you. I did take a mini sabbatical, and returned refreshed! Thank you for your kind words, they really apply most of all to you. Your presence here is an absolute must. It is genuine Reds like yourself, King Eric and CedarsDevil that make this a comfortable haven for the Red looking to chill among Reds. I hope to see you here, enjoy your rants, get the latest lowdown on the ABU press, and stand by your side, swatting down the ingrates, wum and ABU.
I was injured in the morning so in the wave of United.
I know now how they feel
Cedars Sammmmmmmmantha tks.
@King Eric Yes, thats all that matters. Ayyyy el amouuuuuuuurrrrrrr
Anand
You are on fire today! Brilliant and totally agreed
Banner at the Stretty it is, need to make me a few calls for that! hahaha
A great servant to Man Utd. Its sad to see it come to this for him. God willing it works out for him and he’s able to live a full and healthy life. Poor guy.
parryheid says to snitch and snatch: “more and more on this site are aware of your attempts to do people down with ridicule and I am most definately one who recognises that.”
Meanwhile, he’s been labeling people ‘Village Idiot” etc
Do people down with ridicule? Hypocrisy is the term, I think.
soren
What were you injured with darling? Should I worry?
Wooley alert.Hah
parryheid
When I want to address someone I mention their name and do not use snide and vague remarks…..There is no doubt that you are a sad and miserable person. You give negativity a whole new meaning……… At them level I pity you
some not them of course……..
I’m not on twitter, but tweets are reported in the news:
Michael Owen tweeted: “Wishing Fletch all the best in his recovery. #topbloke.”
Scottish midfield partner Charlie Adam: “Gd luck to my scotland team mate darren fletcher in his recovery.”
If stupidity and ignorance was painful than you would hear their screams from all four corners of the earth
Cedars- A muscle tear, I’m ok, just need rest.
Nominating someone as village idiot has been doing people down with ridicule since the Middle Ages. It is in fact the very definition of it. The whole exercise was a failed wind-up.
He says something provocative (ie: Village idiot), then calls those who respond ‘sheep’, smirking as though he’s the ‘grand puppeteer’ Perhaps his ‘Punch and Judy’ gigs were cancelled.
Where is my Willie or is that me wellie? My feet are cold, Mike is 39 and James is in Oxford
And to end, Parryfuckmyfacecunt is just that i.e. a CUNT
soren
Look after yourself my friend……..
Samantha Mumba should keep you company! hahaha
At them level, hey? Ha Ha Ha !
Them level what inside knows um caveman die quick quick if twat like twit live then.
Damn lucky his number come late.
Get out snatch!
signed
snitch
Had a feeling his mystery illness hadn’t vanished. Maybe if he took things easy he’d fully recover but trying to be match fit for United week-in week-out, he had no chance. Could explain ALOT about the last few seasons, and def settles the old Champions League Final debate (for me anyway). Big shame, and a big blow for him and us. Its like Hargreaves in 2008 all over again, but without the 2011 media whoring.
Obviously gutted for Fletcher, he’s a top player and I hope he can recover his career as well as his health. His personal life comes first, and im sure the Club and all associated will stand by him during his “break”.
Must say tho lads, its a “tad” harsh to criticise people already talking about the squad (mind you haven’t read all the comments and some can be insensitive twats on here).
Costas raised a very valid point about what exactly Alex had in mind for midfield this season. To be fair mate, since Alex already knew Fletcher’s condition I think he’d point to Morrison and Pogba if asked about cover for that position. Doubt very much those two are just there for numbers, and Alex has been saying since last year they will get games, and im sure they’ll play more. Also, its becoming cliched to remind people but Park, Giggs, Carrick, Jones, Anderson, Cleverly and Gibson really isn’t a bad selection when choosing TWO central midfielders, especially not with Nani/Valencia/Young on either side, Evra overlapping, and Rooney/Hernandez/Welbeck upfront. Now we’re not at our peak, but after 5 years dominance should we still be? This is transition, its ugly, and we don’t have to think about Barca for once – we just need to retain our Title at all costs. I think this squad can do it.
And who knows, maybe Darren’s health explains our refusal to RUSH OUT like many demanded and buy a new midfielder? Sometimes “keeping the faith” is the most COMMON-SENSICAL thing to do. Alex certainly kept every faith in Darren where other clubs and managers would’ve moved him on and replaced him. Fletcher’s been battling this for years now, and much like Hargreaves if he’d been fit the whole time our midfield wouldn’t be missing #FUCKALL and we’d probably have another CL Title. If Fletch really is taking an extended break, which I don’t doubt, I think the player we all want will arrive next summer, but more importantly I expect this current squad AS IS to cross the line next May. Just opinions mind you.
All the best Darren!
fuck ol misery guts. U.N.I.T.E.D. I just don’t give a fuck about shitty. With a nick nack paddy whack let old parry moan why don’t Moses fuck off home.
Good night my friends……. Get well soon Fletch
A snitch is an informer, a snatch is female genitalia.
So, if ‘snitch and snatch’ were informing RoM of a cunt, then it works.
Back at ROM. Quick evenings Physio. How is everyone? Cedars & Smartalex, you to behaving yourselves? Anyway…. Darren Fletcher Football Genius…..Darren Fletcher Football Genius…..Darren Fletcher Football Genius…..Darren Fletcher Football Genius…..!!
@ Zibbie – Evening mate. Wasn’t too sure about Jones at MF in his first two games but he has grown into the role and I am looking forward to see how he develops. His lack of height (though still reasonably tall) may make him a better defensive MF than CB though no doubt he can do both roles well. Also we get to see his attacking and dribbling ability more.
Whatever Macseano does I think Jones could do better. So looking fwd to a settled starting MF line up of Jones/ Carrick until Cleverly gets fit. Jones has limited passing range and vision right now and is developing positional awareness so Carrick works well with him as on his day he can pass with the best of them and provide range and penetration as well as change the direction of play.
Really gutted by this. Darren is one of my favorit players. Not going anywhere as he is a true red.
Don’t agree with all this cover up and virus hoodoo that the club have been putting out for the past year. It is a disservice to the player and fans.
Darren Fletcher: Obviously, one of the best out of our academy since the fledglings.
Wes Brown, O’Shea and Darren were the best our academy has produced in 1999-2005 window.
Darren could have been a 500 game player for United but may have seen his last games if this can’t be sorted. To put it in perspective: He currently is 51st on the all time appearance list. 10th of the United products in the EPL era IF you include Rooney and Ronney.
All time appearance / Name / Club Senior Appearances / Date and age of first senior appearance.
1 Ryan Giggs 889 6 October 1956, aged 19
4 Paul Scholes 676 21 September 1994, aged 20
5 Gary Nevile 602 16 September 1992, aged 17
28 David Beckham 394 23 September 1992, aged 17
29 John O’Shea 393 13 October 1999, aged 18
31 Nicky Butt 387 21 November 1992, aged 17
32 Phil Neville 386 4 May 1998, aged 19
37 Wes Brown 362 4 May 1998, aged 19
42 Wayne Rooney 341 28 September 2004, aged 19
51 Darren Fletcher 302 12 March 2003, aged 19
TomCleverley: “I am gutted for Fletch’, I’m not too sure about what it is, but I’m afraid it is bad news for him and bad news for the team. He is a massive player for us and it is a shame, because we are having a bit of a problem in centre-midfield. But we have got Giggsy, Ji, Carrick, Phil Jones doing a job, and Darron Gibson still in the squad. So that’s what squads are for.”
“He is a fantastic pro,” said the 22-year-old. “Growing up through the ranks, he is someone that has done the same journey that I have. So he is someone I have always looked up to.”
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7376321/Cleverley-sorry-for-Fletcher
“I am obviously absolutely devastated for Darren because I know how hard he has worked to get back to playing regularly for his club and country,” Scotland manager Craig Levein told BBC Sport.
“He is one of the most inspirational players I have had the pleasure of working with and, on behalf of his Scotland team-mates and my backroom staff, I sincerely hope this time off, allied to the support of his family, will enable him to make a full recovery.”
“Darren has shown tremendous dedication and fortitude, demonstrated by his ability to overcome this illness and perform at the highest level for Manchester United and Scotland. I spoke with Sir Alex Ferguson and Darren this week and the most important thing, at this stage, is for the player to be given time to rest and recuperate. Nobody is more committed to his country’s cause than our captain. ”
“He is a central part of our plans for the World Cup 2014 qualifiers but, at this stage, his health is paramount and I would like to reiterate the best wishes of everyone at involved with the national team and the Scottish FA.”
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/12/13/2801208/scotland-manager-craig-levein-absolutely-devastated
fuck me, 1956?
1956? Lol. I know he’s old, but damn!
“Why Darren Fletcher’s past should leave United fans in little doubt he will beat this illness”
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/David-Maddock-on-Darren-Fletcher-illness-Fletcher-s-past-should-leave-Manchester-United-fans-in-little-doubt-he-will-beat-this-disease-article842590.html
1956? and who’ve we added to the midfield since then? Glazernomics!
Paul Parker. Spot on mate. Yeah we just need to get players back and perhaps a loan deal or a midfielder in jan which is probably unlikely and we should be fine for the prem. I think with key injuries going out of europe was a blessing in disguise (not the best turn of phrase at present) as I honestly think if we had have scraped through we would have been found out with no vida etc. The squad when fit can win the league no worries. I honestly don’t think Pogba is ready. As I have said before I don’t much care for him. The last few games he has been lazy and showboaty. Best bet is , and I am boring myself now, RYAN fucking TUNNICLIFFE who shits on Pogba for sheer toughness, drive, mental strength and united in his blood. Plus he has been playing against seasoned pros in the Championship. Pogba will be found out in the Prem as he was last week against Gardener. Ryan Tunnicliffe will be the real deal mark my words. I wasn’t far wrong with Tom when some om here doubted him at Wigan. Tunnicliffe was hard a year ago. Now he looks a fucking beast. Has that drive like Jonesy has and is a similar age. I do think though Fergie may get someone wether it be a loan.
Fucking talkshit tonight with an hour long fat frank love in because he scored a fucking pen and kissed his badge and big haired curly tot has the audacity to drop him despite him being shit of late. Barely a fucking word on Fletch who could well never play at the top level again. Disrespectful cunts.
I digress. Fergie will have summat up his sleeve even if its just a Larsson type loan.
I don’t know why you bother with parrysnide Cedars mate. Here is a fella who told blatant lies while I was in Dubai, was exposed and still didn’t apologise for being proven wrong about Gordon. It takes a big man to swallow his pride, summat many of us on here have done before. Like me with Slim and Paul Parker. Parrysnide clearly isn’t that man.
Sorry about that typo. Giggs first game was 2 March 1991, aged 18
typos, damned typos and statistics hidden in their somewhere.
My messages are initially transmitted via djembe, so much is lost in the translation.
This is somewhat limiting, but I’ll keep my chin up. I think I’ll try my first smiley. Ü
Tried a Santa !
Way off topic! The blue bastards are running scared. They need their whole squad, despite no injuries to speak of:
Manchester City have agreed special dispensation to delay the departure of a “guilty and confused” Yaya Touré to the Africa Cup of Nations so he can take part in their FA Cup tie against Manchester United. The same provisional agreement is in place for his brother, Kolo.
“Our country needs people like myself and Didier Drogba because there is a war and it’s important we do what we can for our people, but this is also a crucial time of the season,” he said, patriotically.
You can’t bring up your contribution to the war effort if you’re putting a football game first. I don’t blame him for playing, but lay off the hero claims.
Funny your alter ego admitted the point I made.And funny you seem to have memory block when I said didn’t know you needed handers .Get snitch to go back a few posts on the same page or better yet get him to tell me the thread title and I’LL expose you myself as a whimpering slug.But it won’t happen will it cause he also will be exposed or maybe his fellow post bracketer will.Again nah cause he may have to explain his silence maybe the Asian good poster may say I remember that again unlikely and there is yet one more poster of some repute who got dragged in to my regret.Snitch by the way who was exposed as a liar a few short days ago forget that did we? Give it up clown.
Did you give him a lap dance Mikekelly12? What does ‘tried a Santa’ mean?
I think you’ll find he was 17.
Fred! Hows Al?
Never better!
We will win this league if we have to do it with a 4-2-4.
Shattered for Fletch. If your life has the possibility of you shitting into a bag for the rest of your life, priorities have to be in order. Health comes first. Not 11 grown men kicking a ball around some grass.
Best wishes to him. Hope he pulls through. Good to know the majority of our rivals aren’t taking the opportunity to get a cheap shot in.
I spoke to a GP today and mentioned Darren and his ulcerative colitis. He said, with some certainty, that he won’t be back.
It’s a real shame and it must be a crushing blow for him as he always plays with such enthusiasm.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8953873/Manchester-Uniteds-Darren-Fletcher-fighting-to-save-his-career-after-contracting-chronic-illness.html?
Nice to see Fletcher getting some respect from rival fans, in the comment section. One or two clowns, but you can’t have everything.
Can some people please fuck off going on about the January window. There’s no one around then so get over it. Fuck sake.
All the best fletch!
http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/puskasaward/index.html
Show your ambition: VOTE ROONEY!
This is really sad news for Darren and his family. It’s been clear for a while that something serious has been going on behind the scenes. The only thing that we should be saying on here today is ‘Get well soon Fletch’. I wish him all the best and hope that he is able to go some way to manage the condition… I am not sure how compatible this condition and being a top class footballer is. News like this puts everything in to context. I think the club have handled this news today in a really compassionate way… reminds me that United is a family and they always handle things like this in the way only United can… Looking forward to hearing the fans support for Fletch at the next game. United – more than a football club…
Chelsea looking at offers for Torres. Anything around the 20 mil range will do. You couldn’t make this up.
At least they have some business acumen. Dogleash still believes poor man’s Duncan Ferguson will turn it around.
United Rant have an interesting article on Fletcher’s illness. Of course, with the Glazer angle thrown into the mix. Still, raises some pertinent questions.
Fletcher’s illness
calls for freshness
in the form of some midfielders
to add to United prowess
Vidic’s injury
calls for a captain seriously
to stable the ship strongly
to lead United to glory
Perhaps Mascherano is the answer
And Torres is available for the new year
or Diarra from Real Madrid is a consider
to marshall the midfield with power
If only we strengthen
and the Glazers would not spurned
a chance to solidify United fortunes
we will be smiling come May in turn
Get well soon Fletch you can beat this mate… Until you do the best thing the gaffer can do is talk Scholes out of retirement
Best of luck recovering Fletcher! Can’t have been an easy period lately, but fingers crossed your condition will improve.
It’s things like these that makes you realize football isn’t everything. It would be sad if he never returned to play for United, but health has to take first priority, afterall it’s only a game. Good to see the support from non-united fans as well. Kudos!
There were excellent performances from a few United players against Wolves. Nani is in a different class to anyone else in the League; Rooney was very good; Valencia added so much penetration; Ferdinand delivered big time when called on to assume Vidic’s airspace ownership; Carrick masterfully dominated the middle of the park.
I’ve been watching a 17 minute MOTD video over and over, marveling at Phil Jones. Not being at the game you miss so much. The work rate he gets through is incredible. When you watch on TV you see him arrive in the 6 yard box from open play and make a great defensive header, but the fact that he’s just breezed in from the halfway line is lost on you. It’s the same on attack. he gets on the end of fast moving counter-attacks that he initiated when he won the ball 85 yards back in our half. He seems to read the game well, is quick-witted, very skillful, has incredible timing, confident, and has great execution. Add that to his strength, commitment, and no-nonsense approach, and for the life of me I can’t see why some feel he’s not suited to the midfield.
I do agree that he’ll also make a great Centre-Half.
Best position? With what we’ve seen so far, he’s more ready to be an old fashioned all-round midfielder (some call box-to-box) than CH, and it will do him no harm. Some feel that his long term quality as a CH will be hindered, I don’t.
Get well Darren! We love ya mate.. top class player. Rest up and come back ever the stronger
@Costas, I think you meant rich man’s Duncan. Because Duncan was definitely not 35m and probably scored more goals or contributed more to Everton. If I’m not wrong, he won the 1995 FA Cup for Everton!
On topic first, please take care Fletcher, take as long as you need to recover, health is more important than football, don’t rush back.
For the rest of us, God bless us, the only real CM we have over this tough Christmas period is Carrick. Now we really need to get someone in during Jan with big question marks over Tom and Anderson. The saving grace is actually that we are out of the CL, so that we can focus our resources on the league and stop City from buying the title.
YorYor – you ARE wrong. It was Paul Rideout.
Grrr… I could swear the replays going on in my head was Duncan’s face.
Guess it just means that his face irked me more than anything… or I probably got it mixed up with one of the goals he scored against us.
Scotland’s 22-year-old Barry Bannan (who faced drink-driving charges earlier this year): “As soon as I heard I texted Fletch right away to let him know I was there for him. He was there for me. I was stupid and wasn’t in a great place — but you find out who your friends are in situations like that and Fletch is one of them for me.”
“What he’s faced with won’t be easy for him. But he knows there are a lot of people thinking of him. No one knows how long he’s going to be out for but I’ll be phoning him and texting him constantly. I sent him a text as soon as I heard and he was in good spirits all things considered. In fact, we ended up having a bit of a joke. He says he’ll be back nutmegging me in training with Scotland before I know it!”
“I think that’s his way of dealing with it, but it sums him up that he’s smiling already. I’ve only known him about a year but from day one he’s been brilliant. It wasn’t until my driving incident that I realised how close we’d actually become. He put his arm around my shoulder and helped me through it when he could easily have done nothing. I was the lowest I could be and he lifted my spirits. For someone like him to go out his way to do that speaks volumes. He was really supportive and that’s why I’m determined to do the same for him. I know I can count on him and I hope he knows he can count on me.”
“We’re friends but I’ll admit I’m almost still in AWE of him. He’s one of those players with a real presence about him. When I met up with the Scotland squad for my debut against the Faroe Islands he was great. I actually played against him for Villa on the previous Saturday and we drew 2-2. But when I turned up at the Scotland hotel I could hardly believe I was in his company. Although I talk to him and text him now he’s still got that aura about him.”
“The main thing is that he comes through this. Being healthy is all that matters. He’s a fit boy anyway so hopefully that stands him in good stead. But that’s one of the things which almost makes it hard to believe. I’m pals with Fletch but even I didn’t know exactly what’s been wrong with him. But I knew he’s not been feeling too great and probably been playing through a fair bit of pain. That’s the sort of guy he is — he doesn’t want to let his team-mates, his club or his country down. I’m saddened but knowing Fletch he’ll come back stronger than ever. There are a lot of people behind him. He’s a strong character anyway. He’s our captain, our leader. He’s got the mental toughness to get through this.”
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3996828/Fletch-got-me-through-drink-drive-shamenow-Ill-be-there-to-lift-him.html
Kenny Miller: “First and foremost the most important thing is that he’s fit and healthy again. It’s not a case of getting back playing football — it’s more about being well again.”
“Fletch is our skipper, our leader. It’s devastating to hear he’s facing something like this. I didn’t have any inkling at all. Obviously it was known he had a virus, and then he had a couple of niggly injuries. But I don’t think any of the lads in the Scotland squad had any idea about this. He obviously wanted to keep things under wraps and that’s completely understandable. I think most of the lads will be shocked by the news.”
“I just hope he makes a full recovery and I’m sure he will. He is one of the fittest lads I know in the game. You just need to look at the games he’s played in when he’s obviously not been 100 per cent. He was still the all-action box-to-box player we love. That’s what makes this all the more amazing.”
“But everyone in our squad looks up to Fletch. He’s not only a vital player for Scotland but also Manchester United. That speaks volumes for him as much as anything else. You don’t become a player at that level unless you’ve got something really special about you. We all respect him for being the player and person he is. Being at Manchester United he has a status within our group but it’s not like he has any ego. He’s one of the lads — but we all admire him.”
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3996866/Miller-Get-well-soon-pal.html
Kinda explains his drop of form I guess. Brave lad to be playing while enduring in silence. Here’s wishing for the best of recovery.
For the impact that ulcerative colitis can have on the life of a sportsman in the prime of his career, the story of Lewis Moody, the former England rugby captain and another sufferer, stands as a stark precedent for Darren Fletcher
“There was no way I was going to let my secret out to a bunch of rugby players who would then mock me mercilessly,” he wrote. “I ended up hiding it from them for three years and I slumped into a state of depression.”
On Christmas Eve in 2007 when, aged 29, he experienced a bowel movement while shopping in Leicester city centre. Panicking and unable to find a toilet, he soiled himself “in the middle of the street”.
“There are few more demeaning experiences for any man, let alone a rugby player,” he later wrote. It was from that moment that Moody decided to be more open with his team-mates and he said that in recent years his impromptu departures from the training ground became known as the “emergency crap”
Ulcerative colitis is exacerbated by stress. But Moody discovered that as he allowed his team-mates to find out about his condition, that stress declined. “Being stubborn about it and keeping it a secret had simply made life harder for myself,” Moody wrote. Ending the secrecy is one less thing for Fletcher to worry about.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fletcher-can-take-heart-from-moody-recovery-6276542.html
Evening Reds not much to say just hope the lad gets better,who knows if he’s been in pain or how it effected his play,his will to play gets 100% respect from me Fletch is a true red,get well mate.
Fletcher is one of those players who is red to the core.We will miss his sheer energy in the midfield….We all love you fletch.. get well soon
Im a matter of days we have lost the heart and soul of Manchester United. Does it really matter who we buy in January to replace this two players that are absolutely irreplaceable? Both of them symbolized what Manchester United is and always will be.Salt of the earth.Truly devastated.
Took a while of from posting…but have been reading dilligently the whole time. Thought I needed to be said: lots of agressive talk towards one anoter the last couple of months. Whose an idiot, who’s not a real fan, whose being realisitic etc etc. But I think everybody should take a moment and really read some of these posts. MOST people here are sincerly worried for the lad. Doesn’t sound like much…but this is what differnetiates this club, this team, and these fans. Let’s put things in perspective….we are in 2nd place in te best league in the world. We’re 3 points back from our rivals…essentially our fate I in our hands….and we’ve done all this with a team held together by ducttape and bird shit. Clearly there’s a lot to take in/talk about. But here we are..making sure one of out players….who I assume none of us have meant….is okay and say things like “footy isn’t that important”. We’ve got made lads….I tip my hat to u all and can only say “we are united”
Any regular knows i despise Rentboys i’d rather lose than have a team of cunts like city.Fletch is exactly the type of player i respect,no fuss,no problems,loves the club enough to play with a illness because he doesn’t want to let the club down.I’m going to paste part of an article about a possible WS move in january
He cannot go against the club Inter Milan to tell the fans, look I want to leave, but we know, we’re close enough to Wesley Sneijder, that he idolises Old Trafford and Sir Alex Ferguson
the cunt idolises OT and Sir Alex yet wanted 250k a week,yeah sure,if all is true comments like that make me fucking puke.Fletch idolises OT and Sir Alex,100% true.
Now which player do you want.
Evening wayne. Not much one can say except gutted for Fletch, and keep him in our thoughts.
Are you driving? I’m repeatedly re-watching the wolves game, we played well. Nani is a twinkle-toes, and tough too. He’s really developing into a top player. His first goal was brilliant. In the box he chests the ball away from goal to create turning space, glides across three defenders, and sweetly places the ball in the corner. Earlier he turned between two defenders like they weren’t even there, leaving himself with acres of space. Also, he is choosing options well, much improved. He ignites an expectant surge in the crowd as he gets the ball, and always seems dangerous. He’s so good that I expect we’ll see a lot of goals from him now that he’s back on the scoresheet. Be interesting to see who scores the most goals in the next month, now that he and Rooney both scored braces.
I’m a Liverpool fan and have heard a lot about this website so I thought I’d have a look, not bad, easy to post and loads of blogs, just here to say that I hope Fletcher is ok, I think a lot of dickhead fans need to remember this lad has a family and then think how they would feel if their relative or friend was diagnosed with a serious illness, footy is footy but this is different. Hope he makes a full recovery.
wayne, your question has only one answer, Fletcher! I’d rather 11 with his attitude, and play from the heart, than be winners in name only with mercenaries.
smartalex no mate just got into Edmonton,thing is if you had 11 like Fletch Utd win every game.As a teenager i played in a league with ex pros,not first division but Grimsby when they were ok and Scottish division 1 again when it wasn’t a bad league.All we were was a pub team made up of friends,now we had alot of really good players.We made it to a provincal final but coming up against a team that was fucking loaded with ex pros and wasn’t given a chance,we won 2-1,the reason we were all buddies and played hard for each other.The will to win and being bonded aslong as the team has talent will always beat the cunts who are playing for a paycheck.
Rather have tunnicliffe back in january than buy badge kissing morons that wear their bank a/c no on their sleeves.
wayne, I must admit that the last thing I want is a team of prancing nancies even if they win. I’d rather have a Jones type player in the midfield, than any of the Barca midfielders, no matter how that affected our chances. A team playing with pride for their team-mates is really worth supporting. It’s what it’s all about.
People ramble on about loyalty, they don’t even know what it means. Stand by your friend when he’s wrong, chide him later when you’re alone. He doesn’t need you when he’s right, he needs you when he’s going to be pummeled because he was stupid/drunk/whatever. Back your brother, team-mate, buddy, and wife.
Former Scotland coach Berti Vogts gave Fletcher his Scotland debut at the age of 19 in 2003
He told the Scottish Sun: “I can’t believe what you’re telling me. I came off a plane from Dubai and I hadn’t heard anything about this. It’s dreadful news, just terrible. It’s so, so sad and my first thoughts are with Darren and his family. I will ring Sir Alex to ask him to send on my strongest thoughts as I know he is a big admirer of Darren and will really be hurt by this.”
“It seems so wrong because Darren is such a fit guy it seems as though this wouldn’t be something that would happen to him. But it only shows illness shows no one any respect. He was a wonderful player for me, a wonderful leader and he was a great captain of Scotland. I could always rely on him and the coaches who followed me obviously thought the same way — he was someone you built a squad round.”
“He always has so much energy and is such a positive person on and off the park. He was the kind of person I was happy to have on my side because he was a leader of men.”
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ex-scotland-boss-vogts-shocked-news-over-man-utds-fletcher-2553251#
smartalex Eric Clapton said it best,Nobody Knows You When Your Down and Out.That’s when you find out who your true friends are
It’s also very applicable to Football Clubs and Fans
An excellent article on Fletcher:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/darren-fletcher-will-come-to-rely-on-renowned-energy-and-strength-during-trying-times.16156252
Fletch recovery > a PL title
one of my personal favorites at MUFC, the only thing related to the club I seriously wish to happen now is his recovery and to see him wear the jersey again.
get well soon Fletch
with all the love & wishes to you & your family
Smartalex
some excellent news & links, thanks for sharing
‘Cause no, no, nobody knows you
When you’re down and out.
In your pocket, not one penny,
And as for friends, you don’t have any.
When you finally get back up on your feet again,
Everybody wants to be your old long-lost friend.
Said it’s mighty strange, without a doubt,
Nobody knows you when you’re down and out.
wayne, haven’t Leeds learnt that the hard way. although they were always hated, even before they dropped down and fell out of life as we know it.
It’s not uncommon for a United fan to wrathfully vent his dissatisfaction with United’s quality or success rate, which is mind-boggling. Almost all teams never win any significant trophies. We competitively contest everything available, and win frequently. A blinkered rant at our ineptitude is simply insane.
Ancha, pleasure mate! Thanks for thanks!
smartalex Leeds are the posterboys for if you don’t have a rich owner and not enough worldwide appeal it’s hard to survive at the top.In my day Leeds were huge that’s how much the economics and varibles of being a successful club have changed.Not convinced it’s a good thing,not liking the way football is going.The day Utd become City is the day i quit watching football.
Anand, Cedars
as you guys posted, I hope the locals raise a huge banner at OT this weekend as a mark of support on behalf of all United fans.
You scored the only goal at home with a thumping header in a 1-0 win that ended jose’s chelsea 40 match unbeaten run in the PL back in Nov 2005. Remember that one and come back and give us many more magic moments such as that for years to come.
wayne, it’s not a good thing. It’s unsustainable, and needs a major overhaul, including dissolving Fifa, Uefa, and the FA!
A day where United becomes City seems more likely to arrive if the Glazers sell, not stay, although I know very little about it.
smartAlex … excellent post at 3:40, really top stuff.
smartalex i agree the anti-glazers bang on about Sir Alex not having funds but never shown any proof.My theory is Sir Alex is old school and 100% HATES RENTBOYS so when some cunt tells him,i love Utd it’s my dream to play at OT but i want 250k a week,he goes FUCK YOU.
There is a separation which is obvious on ROM,alot of Utd fans would love to become City, to me it’s the most abhorrent thing i can think of.To become a toy to a billionaire with a big ego,Utd would not be the club i love.
Dear Fletcher,
How are u today? Hope all the outpouring of support will galvanize u. That Scottish die hard attitude u have show so often has endeared u to millions of people. I bet u will handle this without any drama or self pity, and will go on to live yr life to the fullest. I say this after watching yr interviews and actions over the years. U have always got on with things.
Wheather u return to the first team or not ,dosent really matter , your health ,yr life and yr family comes first. Take care brother, i do however fully expect u to be coaching at United.
God Bless you Darren Fletcher and yr Family. Get well.
@Vidmar20 and @denton davey : Sorry to hear u guys have this medical condition. Hope ur doing well. Take care.
@bozzer99: Same for u dude , Hope yr wife is doing ok.
@MG: Ask Dr.G if the operation to remove the bowel and replace it with an internal bag ,where a person goes as normal, works?
One thing though, lots of people are going to hear, hopefully learn and understand this condition. May help bring more attention and funds to the cause.
Anyone have an idea of where and how i can watch a re-run of MOTD, keep hearing about how Jones was creamed over with spunk by the pundits. Wanna get a little of that love myself, any help would be greatly appreciated
StatesideAussie – it’s simply the truth, but thank you!
wayne – Sir Alex is old school, and labour to boot. That means he fights for his players, gives them everything to succeed, and insists on a hard day’s work from everyone, everyday. They must put their heart into it. It’s a partnership that everyone buys into. Management, staff, labour. All in it together. working together, winning together, failing together. He puts himself in the line of fire to protect his players. Not because it’s his job, or to be sacrificial, but because it’s needed. His handling of players is masterful, but it’s his control over the media that is most remarkable. Watching him in an interview is like watching a great actor deliver his lines. I am in awe.
I reckon that deep-down Sir Alex knew that not all was right with snood-wearing Nasri, who tried a triple cross, thereby proving his unsuitability. Wes, also a mercenary and unsuitable, no matter how good he is. We sounded him out, laid out our ballpark, and left it in his hands. Grasping for cash while shaking hands is hardly indicative of a man who plays for the team. Fergie wisely turned away.
Incidentally, Sir Alex has said that there was only one potential stumbling block raised by Phil Jones. He wanted assurances about playing. Firstly, this is not mercenary at all, it is a healthy desire to play football often. Secondly, SAF would not guarantee anything, in fact he told Phil that Nani had played the most last season, about two thirds of the games. Jones came to United.
@smartalex: agree with yr comments. Otherwise Fergie wud have closed the deal for those guys.
It has happened in the past, we are dissapointed that he did not sign someone, only later realising he was right not to.
He always looks for character first .
Wow, hello King.
Excellent stuff Smartalex. Wayne fuck the rentboyz! Fletch wow…… what a guy.
Smartalex I have watched the game 4 times, Nani is awesome.
$hity throws 60+ players up against the wall and had 20 stick. Manchester United worlds largest sporting club. Develops talent and fill’s the holes with some purchases.
This sounds fucking awful…terrible…just horrible
Will he be able to play again??? It doesn’t sound like he will. Being a professional athlete demands a lot from your body, and an operation and constant medication may be too much for him to handle.
Fuck…this just ruined my day.
That’s tough on Fletch.(( Get well soon, bro. Got his kit during the 09-10 season, one of my favorite players.
Don’t think it’s the best idea to discuss possible transfer dealings right now. Give it one day at least.
After spending more than half my time in film theaters for the DIFF, I finally got a chance to catch up with everything that has happened the past few days.
Stateside, Brilliant analysis as always on our injuries in the last thread. If your contributions are going to become a regularity, that would be doubly awesome. Also, nice catch by Smartalex in guessing it was your handywork.
smartalex @ 5:50, Top post especially the part about Sir Alex’s handling of the media. Nowhere was this highlighted better than with Ambitiongate. Sir Alex’s interview is the stuff of legend. Yes, a lot of it was heartfelt but the way it was delivered, it was like watching a master actor at work. Sir Alex at his manipulative best.
Regarding Fletcher, it is awful, awful news. Regulars will know I have voiced out my appreciation for the qualities Fletch brings to us time and again, not just as a fighter, but also as a top-quality footballer. I never bought some people who said Fletch was average, he is easily one of the better technical players we have. He will sorely be missed, there is no two ways about it.
More to the point, I just want him back in action. From what I’ve read from the others above, it seems like a fairly serious condition and we don’t want him to get to “that” point of no return. That would be the most truly awful day in our recent history. For now, he needs to take a shitload of rest and focus on recuperation. Never mind our football, getting Fletch back to good health – not for our sake, but for his and his family’s sake – should be arguably as important as anything in our list right now.
Off-topic, this news also tells me how serious these things can get. I’ve been feeling something off down in my stomach for some time now. It has been an on-off feeling and besides a minor test, I’ve not got it properly checked. I was planning to do it once I return back to India at the end of the month and after hearing a news like this, it has now become a top priority for me.
Smartalex
Good points on nasri and wes. Contrary to popular opinion i always felt that united is more than capable of challenging any club in the pursuit of good players. But because of non footballing factors such as attitude and ethics are valued as much as what that player is worth to the team we are often accused of lacking ambition or financially restricted to compete when we fail to sign a player that everyone wants. Having said that how often are we going to find another Jones that put his ambition to succeed above any monetary gains. Even SAF said the other day how players are being spoilt by greed feed by their agents and that its getting harder to buy players these days.
damn I feel like I’ve been hit by a truck.
Ohh, God – this is terrible, terrible news. Not to Fletcher, not to a young man in his prime, and a top athlete to boot. Life is so fucking cruel. I just hope that he makes a complete recovery. We need to stand up for him. A chant and a banner for The Football Genius, I say. Best wishes of millions of Reds all over the world – surely that has to have some power over any disease, right? Dear God, please give Fletch his health back. Please.
And of course, some right fucking cunts here talking of blessings. This isn’t about a trophy, and it isn’t about football, you smalltime bastards – it’s about one of our very own, struck with a bad illness. Is that so very fucking difficult to understand, you sub-human whatevers? If your wife was a bad cook and God forbid, she was bedridden, would you count it as a blessing, you cunt? Well, come to think of it, you probably would. If your child was bugging you, would you pray for illness to strike him/her so that you could watch TV in peace? Would you now? Maybe you would. What a sad fucking substitute for a human being.
Anyway, I digress. Sorry. I am all edgy today. My cousin’s wife had a tumour removed yesterday, and we are still awaiting the biopsy results. Got 2 kids aged 10 and 12. And then I hear of Fletch’s illness. Sorry. I digress even further.
Some top posts from folks like Wayne, Stateside, Smartalex, YorYor and many others. Particularly loved Wayne’s football story. I’ve played a little and still do the corporate footy circuit, so I know exactly what he’s talking off. That’s what football is all about to me – discipline, courage, team spirit, sticking up for your mates, and giving it all in one heady rush and tumble. And just like magic, amazing things happen. A better buzz was never invented.
Back to Fletch, his diet and lifestyle must have been completely fucked up. Incredible courage, all the way through to persist in the face of such adversity. Hallmark of a True Red. UNITED, we all stand behind you, you fucking beuty, you Football Genius, and more importantly, A Good Man. GET WELL SOON.
@YorYor
That was Rideout like Fred said;. But you weren’t too wrong. Ferguson scored the winner when they beat us at Goodison that year. And he did the same 10 years later! I guess maybe I was a bit unfair on him. Carroll is so crap that it’s hard to compare him to anyone. Even Heskey.
OHH man. This is a very sad news. I just love his commitment. Top bloke who loves to play football with passion. Many players should learn from him.
I know he will return as he is a fighter. Take your time Fletch and come back when you are 100% fit.
Slim* saw motd and who gives a shit what them to cunts hansen and shearer think, they did say jones was to naive in midfield but we all now shearer has the shit for brains. As far as I can see jones has the potential to be the next robson/ his engine is immense and there isn’t many around who are as fit as him in midfield plus he’s built like a shit house and he’s only 19. Hemailer the ingredients to be a huge player!
On the injury front and fletcher this can only mean we’re going to get some midfielders at last. Were down to the bare bones now and we didn’t have much to start with
Get well soon Fletch!
Devastating news. He is a footballing genius and a great human being. Get well soon boy.
By the way its a Shame that some morons are fighting with each other and using abusive language in this thread. Grow up
Hell I am too focused about fletch health issue to take a notice of such cheap things.
Get well soon Fletcher you genius.
GET WELL SOON FLETCH. Really sad to hear this. Happened to one of the nicest guys too. May God be with you in your time of need.
@Balaji: Do get it checked but dont worry too much, u might actually generate something if u start thinking and stressing about varius aliments. take a day off , relax then go check. Good luck.
I hope this week starts to turn around. been a tough week last.
The journey of being a Manutd supporter. The highs and lows.
I think @smartalex explained @KR may not have actually meant ‘blessing in disguise about Fletch but that it was about Fergie getting a new midfeilder.
His comments did sound callous.
Let there be peace in the Republik.
Wish Fletch a speedy recovery and ffs it’s time to open up the cheque book for a world class midfielder already
Hope he’s back soon enough, but it’s also may be time for SAF to dive in the Jan transfer window and sign someone like Martinez or Rodwell… These injuries and health issues are almost decimating our season
Right, here is the thing…. We have all lost people we love down the years, I have had my fair share, so when I here about someone that I totally love and respect in this case Fletch having such an illness I became (still am) so sad that words cannot describe. I com here and find that people were already talking about transfers and replacement using such words as ‘blessing in disguise’ (I do not care how they were meant) then I react, I will always react. Then you have soren, a poster whom I admire being attacked out of the blue and for no reason to again i reacted as I always will.
If the use of foul language in my posts annoys you then feel free to skip right through them, all of them because I will always use such language as and when I want
wayne
You pretty much summed it up mate….. I would take a player like Fletch over any mercenary any day of the week…. He is United through and through and loves the club.. All players that came through the youth system have a special place in my heart
@CedarsDevil: Lebanese bro, I hope ur not refering to me. Was just explaining @smartalex probaly is right about @KR.
Was not refering to yr defence of @soren or any foul language. Unless u want me to start issuing yellow cards for every foul.
Cheer Up buddy! Something good will happen this week, I sincerely hope.
We are Mauntd bro, we get up , we keep going. Meg might help, sorry u cant have Hayley.
Dave
My good friend I was not referring to you in anyway, far from it. Just wanted to make a point that is all.
Good to see you posting here again pal
@CedarsDevil: Tq and good to know, thot u were going to turn me into a kebab!
REALLY bad news. Get well soon….
But we are FCUKED now!
Carrick (slow), Giggs (38 – winger), Jones (inexperienced & defender) Gibson (shit) is our midfield!
Oh Dear! Although the gap is only 2 points and we have some good fixtures coming up, if Fergie dont make any Signings we wont finish in top 4 at this rate!
Why is it EVERY united fan can see out CM is dogshit but Fergie cant? Dont get it!
red
You see, its posters like you that get under my skin and as I said earlier i will always react…. You are such a negative prat and to be honest i really hope that we are now fucked as you put it and win nothing for years to come to we can get rid of deadwood plastic fans like you
oh my GOD. sounds something serious happended to our genius midfielder. hope you’ll be fine Fletch…. really do..
red
To further add, you say EVERY United fan, doubt you are one, if you are then you are plastic of the highest order….. and you say Fergie cannot see or recognize the issue? Sure, you know more than him
Prat
red says:
Carrick (slow)
________________________________________________
Says it all really. That’s like saying: Hernandez(short)
I’m seeing red, and for once I don’t like it!
red – Read your comment and save face by rewording it, apologising and moving on.
I suppose the rebuilding at United memo did not get to everyone?
Michael Carrick is finally playing to his best after a couple of years of highs/lows. And has played with discipline in every position Fergie has asked of him.
Tom Cleverly, is clearly the now and future.
Phil Jones Impressed Fergie playing in midfeild for Blackburn. He has been watching Phil for a long time before signing him. He brings energy,power and pace to our midfeilder. I reckon we have found a Roy Keane like player finally.
Paddy Crerand confirms Fergie is looking for the right player for our midfeild and some young ones will get thier chance to stake a claim.
Tom and Phil have just done that.
Ando is struggling to keep his performances consistent, he blowing hot and cold.
So Carrick,Phil and Tom are our main midfeilders .
So yes every United supporter and The Boss himself knows we got to fix our midfeilder.
Read @smartalex comments above at 5.50.
He will fix this problem ,no doubt about it. Have faith.
@red, If Sir Alex saw the same things every Tom, Dick and Harry saw, then we would’ve been truly fucked circa 1991 itself. You speak as if Sir Alex is completely oblivious to the situation and that he is losing the plot. Fuck you! Sir Alex may have made some bad decisions – who hasn’t – but that doesn’t mean he is acting without a proper course of action. To put it simply, he has a vision of how he wants this United team to look like a 5 years from now when he hands it over to his successor, whereas blind fucks like you are only bothered about how we look “now”. That is the reason you are whining on a forum while he is plotting City’s downfall. Of course, what that vision is and whether everyone agrees with it (I know Costas is slightly skeptical as he always is) is a completely different issue, but talking as if Sir Alex doesn’t know what he is doing is so comical that you make yourself look like the fool you probably are.
Good day TRUE Reds!
Dave Malaysia, Zibbie, Balaji, 68Devils and Jeet – Cheers fellas!
@smartalex: is red a regular ?
Would you want a £20 million Torres if he were to regain his form?
Cheers Dave, my good friend!
I am actually planning to get it checked as soon as I am back in India – where the medical charges don’t fuck me in the arse like they do here in Dubai. It’s just that news like this make you uncomfortable knowing that when it comes to medical situations, the sooner you get it checked out, the better. That’s all.
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
Fuckity fuck.
Fuckity foo fa fee, Fuckity fee fa foo
Fey Fuck fee fuck foo.
Foo foo, fuck fuck, fucklity fuck fuck, fo fuck fuck fuck fuck foo!
All together now!
Fuckity fuck foo fa fee, Fuckity fuck fee fa foo!
Fuckity fuckity fuck fuck foo, fee fi fo feck fuck!
Fuck yeah!
@Dave Malaysia
I was about to ask the same question.
Hello Dave! I have seen that moniker occasionally. Might be a popular one.
I really don’t know.
@jay
Yeh, cos we need more strikers, don’t we? We’ve only got the 7 of them.
If we went out and spent even £20m on a defunct tranny striker, I’d be apopleptic.
@Balaji: Dosent yr company cover the medical in dubai?
@smartalex: Dude , thats a yellow card offence! wash yr mouth in tuak and say 100 times ‘I will not use foul language ,unless in self defence!
The Independent claims Fletcher can take heart from Lewis Moody, who overcame the same diagnosis to captain England at the 2011 Rugby Union World Cup.
C’mon Darren!
@AntiScouser: Which question? How to woo Nigella from Cedars for Balaji?
@jay, Thanks for making me laugh! I really do appreciate it.
@Dave, Oh, it’s a bloody complicated process and I would rather that not be the case. Also, the main reason for delaying is that, quite frankly, I’d leave my body in the hands of a doctor I trust and know cares for my well-being personally, like those I’ve visited from childhood. That is why I want to do it back home rather than here.
smartalex
Thanks for cheering me up my friend…brilliant stuff
CedarsDevil – Morning my friend!
He wound you up, and I thought your release at 9:43 was smooth and controlled.
It was obvious that he was talking to you, as a wind-up, showing little embarrassment that not 48 hrs ago he was sucking up to you to turn you against your buddy. He likes to play both parts in the good cock bad cock routine. There will be plenty more from him, wum.
@jay: dont want stir up a hornets nest but is there a possibilty ,even a remote one, Torres?
Glad Fergie will make the right decision.
I still beleive he will buy in January. Stealth mode now,he wont give anything away.
The Tranny at OT? Hahahahahahahaha no wait hahahahahahahaha
What a fucking ridiculous suggestion
Dave Malaysia, it’s a new drinking song! If the reward each time i sing it is a hundred rinses with tuak, I’m gonna be here until my teeth fall out!
@smartalex: is there something going on with u and @Cedars u wud like to share?
words like ‘yr release smooth and controlled’
good cock bad cock routine?
Am i on the right blog?
Damm Balaji going gay on Jones is rubbing on ScotsmanZulu.
Is the tranny preety @Cedars?
smartalex
What can I say? I am just a smooth operator! Some idiots come on here and think they can fool us with their snide comments and indirect attacks on posters or more importantly the club…
Way to easy to suss out to be honest, proper reds on RoM are easily recognizable, WUM’s and bitches are as well
What a bunch of pervs!
Oi oui six drums of tuak and six drums of rum !
ermm lost for words….
when a shemale for hire loses it’s looks, it must move further into the shadows, away from the hotspots, to eke out a living. Unless it can find a pimp to flog it for a quick £20.
Balaji
Look who’s taking? hahaha Jones sends his kissed by the way
@CedarsDevil
“Some idiots come on here and think they can fool us with their snide comments and indirect attacks on posters… ”
Fool you lot? Mission impossible.
I have totally lost it with typos, kisses not kissed………. Bloody hell
I really hope Fletch can comeback from this but I do have my doubts.
Not only was this player fit for a man of his age but he had more energy than many top level footballers.
Would be different if he was a lazy player like Berbatov. He relies on his fitness.
@Cedars: smartalex was just praising u, smooth release and all that! no so smooth,do the one finger type!
just to clarify, mr.lebanon, why have u got nigella ? She belongs to balaji,tits and all.
For anyone who doesn’t know what a wum is, there are two clear examples on this thread.
Not the ‘blessing in disguise’, or the ‘Why is it EVERY united fan can see out CM is dogshit but Fergie cant?’ comments. They are saying what they think and we don’t like it.
No, the wind-up merchant’s only intent is to stir up trouble amongst us.
Dave
Nigella is mine, full stop! hahaha Oh and enough with this @ thingy buddy
Balaji
Check your email pal
There is a clear difference between a WUM and an idiot……
@smartalex
“No, the wind-up merchant’s only intent is to stir up trouble amongst us.”
Keeps us awake at night.
@Balaji: Sorry dude,the @@Kebab got yer woman! Maybe we cud trade with some tuak, use @@@smartalex as the negotiator!
In honor of Cedars, you’ll see know more @ from me.
See Dave, I told you that evil Lebanese had her. We’ll make a deal, I’ll kidnap Hayley for you if you can kidnap Nigella for me. How about that for an offer you can’t refuse?
Cedars, Will do first thing when I get home buddy. Personal e-mail blocked at work.
Good evening Red Devils around the world,
Today i will be leaving to my home town for 10 days to meet my parents, attend a festive and a wedding,
I will be travelling a lot next 10 days, so i m afraid i wont be in touch with ROM..
I will try to post if i get the chance,
till then, take care all of you..
Miss you all and ROM..
Keep it up and we gonna win at Loftus road,
Cedars, who th fuck is Cedars?
Cheers buds..
We will keep the red flag flyin high coz Man United will never die..
Manchester United
Don’t have an @-Attack Dave Malaysia! Keep those Red corpuscles flowing!
AntiScouser – difficulty sleeping? That’s your sub-conscious venting at you. Listen.
@Balaji: DO not mention Hayley and kidnap or ape-napped, she is doing fine with me, I just have to keep @MG from her.
@MG and his planted ideas bull !
We use the tuak, otherwise we go for Meg!
gentlemen. Please leave your @s at the door.
@ Balaji, thanks for no longer using the @ sign…. However @ Balaji you also had a typo in your post, the @Cedars fella with typos must be contagious
@Dave leave my @Meg out of this otherwise I will be @tting after you! hahaha
You guys are b@ty!
@Sandeep1878: Travel safe! CedarsDevil is a Lebanese kebab loving, bullet and bomb dodging, Manutd supporter,who has great view and access to beautiful hot lebanese women sunbathing and partying, who enjoys injections with smooth releases, and a beautiful baby daughter called Maya!
Between us, thats probaly the best thing to happen to that sinful bastard, all those orgies!
Well Thot u needed to know, cos i keep seeing u say ‘Who da fuck is Cedars?
Wonder no more!
p.s: if u see any pretty indian babes, let Balaji know,he going home and of the month.
Seriously folks, how great is RoM eh? A pure United community for fans from all over the world to come on and talk about our great club, share stories, have debates and as ever some fun banter and humor…… I always enjoy it when proper rival fans come on here with some decent points, wee Daniel springs to mind…… People that are way too serious and at times complain about threads going off topic need to get a life
ok , so long ,far well, ermm how does that song go,
me go hunt
for me dinner
meaty meaty
with da bottle of rum!
till later tuakies!
Sleeping on this has not helped me in the slightest. If anything, I now feel worse. Obviously, as I said in my first post, Fletch’s health is of most importance and that is beyond anyone’s doubt.
SmartAlex’s fanfookintastic post at 5:50 voiced more eloquently than I would manage a very similar point I was going to make myself.
I have one addition though. It has seemed to me that for a long while Sir Alex has not been his normal self. Nothing I could put a finger on, just that I felt like there was something there in the background and it’s been worrying me. It’s almost certain now that it was having this awful news weighing on his shoulders that was showing. Fletch epitomises so many things that Sir Alex would want from a player. And to have shared his rise to greatness, celebrated sucesses, witnessed his spirit… well, probably the only people who have been hit harder by the news is Darren himself and his family. Hell, we all know Darren and the Gaffer would look at each other as family.
Hopefully the weight lifted from Fletcherinho’s shoulders by going public will be similarly removed from Sir Alex’s. One of the most disturbing things for me about the whole Rooney contract saga was seeing the Gaffer clearly upset. Although this has not been so pronounced, I have felt he has not been to great for some time.
Moments like these that show more than anything, however irrational it may seem to some, how much I fucking love United. And fucking love them I do.
Dave
The ‘Who the fuck is Cedars’ comment is actually a funny one pal…. You see our friend James made a banner for me that he takes to matches with him and the banner says ‘Cedars give us a wave’ The obvious reaction from the crowd was ‘Who the fuck is Cedars’ Enjoy the pictures below, all 8 of them
http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/james21e/?action=view¤t=giveusaWave011.jpg
It’s a great place to be, CedarsDevil!
Although, I suppose everywhere is a great place to be cedarsDevil.
Meaty! Meaty! With a bottle of rum! Cheers Dave!
P.S.
What the hell has this place come to when Cedars feels the need to explain why he had heavy words to say about someone being inconsiderate (at absolute best) in relation to the suffering one of our most loved.
And to explain why he defended a totally unwarranted bout of petty name calling towards a poster (Soren) doing something positive and thoroughly innocent.
My god there is some idocy in here sometimes.
Wouldn’t be surprised if that midnight post came from Fergie himself! Either way I agree whole heartedly. Wouldn’t say no to a top January signing in any position, but i’ll not be convinced we need it to retain our Title and challenge the Europa and FA Cup.
King Eric – Alright pal? Cheers, def confident we’ll retain the Title. The sudden irrelevance of Barca really has been a blessing as we can just get on with our humble transition, as Champions no less. Guess it does make sense Pogba is a bit behind Morrison Fryers etc, he’s still acclimatising unlike the others, and Alex tends not to rush foreign players anyway. Funnily enough haven’t seen Tunnicliffe play for Posh even tho he’s now on BBC and Sky, stupid I know. He played their last match so I’ll keep an eye out this weekend, if he can join in January its another option but with the lads we’ve already got competing for only two spaces, I still think we’re stronger than people give credit for. QPR in December suddenly becomes a huge must win for the lads, you gotta love it – and all the best this month Pal!
http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/manchester-united-edge-closer-to-loan-signing-of-15m-rated-juventus-winger-14236/
I don’t know how true it is but this topic is said in many news so it may be true.
Now i am very against a loan move. Either we buy or preferably give some chance to our reserves player like morrison ,Pogba and call back Tunni and even give some chance to larnell cole.
I don’t want any loan please.
Mes – Thanks for the mention. You add so much with your 11:51 comment. Insightful and original. Now that you draw these conclusions, I must agree. Sir Alex will have been distraught at his ‘son’ Darren’s terrible affliction, and has been hiding his pain as interviewer after reporter force him to lie. We’ve all been saying ‘someone must ask Fergie what’s up with Fletcher’?
Surely now that there is not the added burden of secrecy Fletcher will thrive; and Sir Alex will be able to wear his heart on his sleeve as he does.
Ash
Yeah would not want a loan move. Seeing the krasic news for first time so thanks,. Not sure how good he is. What you think Ash?
sachu
If united want to buy a player I don’t want that to be krasic. Nothing against him but he is already 27 and I feel he is another arshavin and palvyuchenko like player. Both have failed.
I feel We could buy some other decent player who is young in age and can bring more to our team.
Its a new day, and at the risk of offending somebody let me reiterate that no disrespect is intended by discussing our squad on Fletcher’s page. Indeed, as a squad member himself im sure Fletchers wondering about the rest of our season too.
More to the point he ain’t fucking dead is he?
In fact, Darren’s hopeful of a full recovery and a bright heathy future. So chin up and all that. Christ. Maybe its a British thing? Should we be performing Sati or some other ritual to prove our devotion or some shit? Fletcher is a big fuck off lad, im gutted for the break in his career but he WILL regain his health and enjoy his family and friends for years to come, which is most important right?
For the record im not too bothered by which big names we’ll buy, never have been. Wayne, Hernandez, Nani, Jones and more all prove the Club knows a future United player when they see one. I’ll leave transfers to the scouts, they are brilliant, im more concerned with the existing squad, always have been.
For what its worth our manager already has all midfield bases covered regardless of what happens in january or the summer. Call me a cunt for not throwing myself on the premature funeral pyre for Fletcher, but think about it – next season our two man midfield will be chosen from the following players:
Anderson – 24
Cleverley – 23
Jones – 20
Morrison – 19
Tunnicliffe – 19
Pogba – 19
At a minimum they’ll be backed by Carrick and Park, and maybe even Giggs (he’s only 56!). Its fair to say no Club in England has this level of CM potential coming through at the same time, so beyond this season im confident we can cope with Fletcher’s UNFORTUNATE break from football. People can get as indignant and preachy as they want, but talking about our squad on this page isn’t disrespectful to him. Im as gutted as anyone for Darren but he ain’t dead for fuck sake, and funnily enough QPR won’t be postponed until he’s all better will it? The show always goes on whether we like it or not, and avoiding the bleeding obvious won’t heal Fletcher’s bowels any quicker will it? Christ, a bit of stiff upper lip resolve never goes amiss.
IMO his career isn’t over, he still has years on his side, he just needs a “break” to regain his strength. If Moody can captain England playing RUGBY after his health problems I think we can hold off the self-immolation in remembrance of Fletcher’s career. He’s a tough Scottish sod and he’ll be back. Until then we’ve got a Title to defend, and anybody pointing out the obvious shouldn’t be criticised – even if it is on the same page as this bad news.
But like I said I will prefer if our academy players get their chance. Ravel is almost ready. He should be starting to feature atleast in bench.
@smartalex
There’s a 3rd example of wum behavior in here. When someone uses Fletcher’s illness just to take shots at players they are obsessed with. Just saying…
Mes
Hi pal, hope your’re still enjoying your honeymoon of a life my friend…….
Ya it does get frantic here at times… I was not defending my self as it were because in all honesty I do not give a rat’s ass about some of the idiots who come here at times. I was just making a point that is all… Cheers for the words
smartalex – You are way too kind my good friend
Paul Ince obviously never heard of Javier Hernandez…
“There is a lot of pressure on Rooney and we saw what that did to him in the World Cup.
“If you are going to compete with the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea you need someone who is going to score you 20 goals a season and you can’t just rely on Wayne Rooney to do it year in and year out.
“Nani has chipped in and Ashley Young was flying early on, but they have quietened down form-wise, so you wonder where the goals are going to come from.
“[Dimitar] Berbatov’s not playing enough, Michael Owen is out injured again and Danny Welbeck is still a young lad but he will chip in with goals.”
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Paul-Ince-Manchester-United-need-to-buy-a-defender-midfielder-and-a-striker-in-January-article842731.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
This feels really burdening. Is it just me? Cos, this was the first thing i thought about when I woke up this morning. It’s been weighing down on me ever since I heard about it. Such a proper lad with fantastic attitude, and a great presence in the dressing room, it must be hard for the lads to take. Knowing that he actually thought of trying the juggle UC and actually did manage to come back for a few games this season, such a determination, makes me very sure that Fletch’s definitely gonna return to first team action with a bang.
On hindsight, its kinda sad, like how there were comments on how Fletch was “past his best”, “poor”, when he came on for a few games this season,but we failed to realize what actually was wrong with him. But in verity, to think he was playing despite the bug. But can’t blame these fans much, cos we don’t know what happens in a player’s personal lives. But still, fans tend to simply hurl out the abuse or criticism without thinking, and what’s worse, its directed at player who’s been heck of a loyal and worker for us. Hurl the words at those mercenary idiot for all i care, but not the loyal ones. Manchester United’s built on loyalty, a family club, the great team spirit. One may question the validity of loyalty in today’s footballing time, but I’m sure it’s crystal clear who are the ones who been working their socks off, for the love of the club and the fans. I may be the more sentimental type, but I’ve never and never will criticize the lads who play their hearts out for us, no matter how badly a run in form they’ve had or a disaster they make.
It’s been a torrid month of bad news, with this topping as the worst of them all. Truthfully, i’ve forgotten all about the CL exit, the europa league, our lengthy injury list and even the league table. Puts things into perspective, there are things that football can’t supersede. And i’m glad to hear so many proper comments in support for Fletch, from the rival fans too. Which makes football the best thing in the world. Come on lads, let’s do our job in the league and do it well for Fletch and Vida. Glory, Glory Man United!
Ash
Yeah even I would want The likes of Tunni, Pogba and morrison to shine. Remember Man united are made of their acAdemy unlike Shitty and chelshit.
Paul parker
Great post.
So some Man united talk in ROM. Great to see.
Cheers buddies
Paul,
Fuckin’ epic post as always. I was going to make the point about Darren not being told he’s about to pass on or something. Just wasn’t sure how to put it. Out with it is usually the best policy, so long as you can back it up with compassion and respect. I do have faith that if anyone can beat something like this, it’s someone with the undoubted spirit of Darren Fletcher, I’m just utterly gutted for the lad.
I couldn’t agree more with the whole of the rest of your post. Also, I’m thoroughly convinved young Jonesey is exactly the box to box player we need. No need to look further for me. He just needs games.
Providing Tom can stay fit once he returns, Clev, Jones, Nani, Tony V works for me. Works fucking beautifully in fact.
Costas
The term sick fucking bastards springs to mind pal
My sources tell me that Barca were willing to lend us `Messi Xavi Iniesta
But contracts broke down when all three realised they wouldn’t have a chance of winning the CL for us
What a shame maybe next year then
Sources season overdrive and let it begin!
Afternoon United – it was simply a pleasure using the guillotine this morning in school extremely therapeutic I may add
See you fine Ladies and Gentlemen later
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Fletch – get well soon. Want to see you holding the trophy in May.
Another crisis – but we will overcome.
United 20/12 – 2012 (and maybe the Europa Cup)
Costas – They are possibly the lowest of the wum. Their first reaction is to exploit Fletcher’s sad situation to prove some irrelevant opinion on some arbitrary aspect of a player. If you point at them, they are up-in-arms of course.
sachu
Enough with your snide digs at the blog pal….. All you ever contributed through out the summer was ‘buy Sanchez’ comments….. Enjoy the place for what it is and enough with all them unwarranted digs
Cedars, hello buddy, I love RoM. Love the articles and most of the posts, except for some idiots!!
Wait before I go
Only me and Costas have the right to kebabs after all we invented them and if anyone needs a PHD – we are offering them Kebabology studies
As for Hayley – poor DM stuck in a dream a fantasy he will not get out of
You have to admire a mans strength even when he can’t see things!
Later Red Devils
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Captain Park
I share your view my friend….
MG – Get out already! hahaha
Cedars
I must implore you to see that their is a sachu and a Sachu little s Big S
As mentioned before I think little s sachu has got some stick on here for no reason I’ve not had a problem with him
Got to go now 19
MG
Na pal, I know both posters my friend and off late the one with a small ‘s’ has gone way out of line
Cedars
I come to this blog for reading some Great post about Our club. I love many people in this blog but what is your problem with me.
Understand one thing I never used to say anything in summer when you guys (You know who I am referring) used to make fun of me and many other good posters but now I had enough with you.
If you don’t like me fair enough but stop always commanding people.
Its the blog of true reds , So i am jsnt giving my opinion.If you like it fine if you don’t no need to dig me.
Ohh by the way atleast I talk about United unlike you who 95% are offtopic and talk some nonsense
I
And on an off topic, I can’t stand it when people use the word ‘soccer’ to refer to football, sounds too American!!
@smartalex
Oh yeah. How dare we insult someone for having an opinion. That’s obviously well based by the way…
@Cedars
Well I admit that I wasn’t considerate enough to concentrate entirely on Darren’s illness either. Life and football moves on too fast for that unfortunately. I just want to make sure I respect his situation as much as possible. I know what problems in that area of the anatomy are like.
MG
I am the same sachu you are talking. That Sachu was different. He had capital S.
I have never offended here anyone neither abused.But whenever I post something I am abused or some lie remarks are said about me.
Costas,
After Pince’s comments about the recent racism issues I’ll never listen to another word the spineless cunt has to say ever again.
Sir Alex:
“You’re a fuckin’ bottler Incey! You cannae handle the stage, can you? You are a fuckin’ bottler!” (Half-time, Barcelona, 1994.)
and the one everyone knows:
“He’s a bully, a fucking big-time Charlie”
The gaffer is almost never wrong. And after what Pince said recently, he’s certainly right about this one.
He’s not even big-time any more. Fuckin’ small-time Charlie, ignore him mate.
Cleverley said: ‘Monday was their (City’s) first slip-up of the season…but we were always confident we could catch them. It’s going to be an interesting weekend. We’ve got a great team spirit so if anyone can bounce back from disappointment it would be our squad. We’ve had a lot of tough games in a short period of time and we’ve been knocked out of two tournaments but we are still well placed in the league.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2073946/Tom-Cleverley-I-knew-catch-Manchester-City.html
@MG
Speaking of kebabs, maybe we should make some sort of new pledge for the end of the season as a good luck charm. Burritos this time?
Vidic said: “I know it’s unlikely we will play entertaining football every time we go out on the pitch. We should always try, though. Nobody wants to be part of a team that plays boring football. When you come off the pitch you want to be proud of what you’ve done and you want to have entertained the fans.”
Vidic, who could only watch the game from the sidelines after sustaining a season-ending knee injury in the defeat to Basel, was delighted at the show his side put on for the Old Trafford faithful.
“We play for the fans – we don’t play for ourselves,” he added. “If we can make the fans happy and, at the same time, win games and win trophies, that’s the perfect scenario. Sometimes, though, there will be tough games, games that we have to fight for, games that are a struggle. But when you’re playing for Manchester United you have to strive to entertain and win.”
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/12/13/2800922/nemanja-vidic-insists-manchester-united-must-strive-to-entertain-
Get well Nemanja!
@sachu – cheers pal.
Mes, alright mate? I tried the softly softly approach when I posted last night but, without naming names and making it personal (which it isn’t for me) I guess the same thing had to said today a bit louder.
We’re all proper gutted for Fletcher and that, but fuck me, you know what I mean?
QPR on Sunday then Fulham on Wednesday. The Club needs two wins in four days to keep the pressure on CIty, and whatever happens, I know Fletcher will be cheering us on with his feet up, his twin lads running around, and his wife doting after him.
He’ll be fine, and I hope to see him back for United. As for the Club, this squad AS IS can hold on until reinforcements arrive in January imo. We’ll be fine too.
sachu
If you really read this blog regularly then you would know that I have written enough posts that would make a great book about United pal…. I have written about my late father’s experiences on watching the Babes and meeting the late Edwards, I have also written about my own personal experience at being a regular at OT during the dark years in the 70′s and 80′s…. I have also written about meeting Sir Alex and even my all time hero Robbo…
Don’t you dare come on here and tell me that I spout nonsense 95% of the time……. You have been having digs at this blog for a while now and for that I will have a go at you
smartalex- Read that article. Have to say Clev is a very top bloke. Knows what to speak and is a genuine guy unlike many other sportsmen. Love him.
@Mes
Hehe, I didn’t know he gave him an earful during that Barcelona game! I’ve forgotten and forgiven many things over the years. Ince scoring against us with a Liverpool shirt and going ballistic in 99 is one of them. Nonetheless, if you want to offer an opinion, get all your facts straight. We have 7 strikers ffs.
going ballistic in 99 isn’t one of them.
You can all relax! Paco is here! I’ve come to spread piece!
Sometimes i wonder if this blog, is West Baltimore? You got Avon on one corner. And the boy Marlo on the other corner. There’s enough corners for everyone.
Loved Ince at United, will never forgive the bugger for the way he celebrated his equalizer for the dippers against us though…… It was as if he had a score to settle
Cedars- Like I said other day I never have any kind of problem with you. You are a true red and so am i. You say this is a dig then what about that day when I was for without reason getting abused by some nothing fellow, I was called a plastic fan. You didn’t say anything that day , Did you?
I don’t have any problem with you but If you have a go at me for no reason then I will also have a go at you.
I reckon that with Vidic being injured, the PR pros at Old Trafford will be hovering like teenagers at a CD give-away. Firstly, they will polish him up. It’s finishing school for our Captain, adding refinement to his masculine appeal. Then it’s all out exposure. Summer-wear for your colossus-in-the-street.
@Paul Parker: talking about the squad on this thread is not direspectful at all, but saying that Fletch’s condition is a “blessing in disguise” is distasteful IMO.
This is a big blow. Darren we will miss you.
sachu
Never had an issue with you either pal, but you have been having snide digs at the blog not once but many times. I never questioned whether you are a true red or not….
Just keep it positive and enjoy the place even when most of us go off topic, enjoy the banter and have a laugh
ps Those summer-wear shoots will be less about the clothes, and more about hooking lustful ladies on his charms. No shit.
Darren fletcher will be back next season. I feel he should be given complete rest this season.
Hell still gutted for him.
Cedars
i Know it was childish.The one thing I cannot tolerate isunnecessary abuses. Anyways Cheers cedars.
I always enjoy .Remember that copy paste
smartalex – Hello mate. Some great tributes you have posted from the likes of Levein, Bannan, Miller etc.
I stand by my 17:58 comment to slim.
“our focus is naturally on the team, and any news that affects the team is voraciously consumed, regurgitated, dissected and bleached. Including this news.
Of course, that can be done without submissions that see this as fortunate, as they think it will force Sir Alex away from his intended path and onto one more aligned with their personal ideal.”
Of course we discuss the impact all news has on the team. Sometimes it’s okay to be irreverent. This time it’s not. Oblivious trampling of respectful Reds compassion is distasteful and incendiary.
sachu
All is good, just get off your high horse and stop trying to act all proper and all, and no more digs at the blog
Cheers right back at you
Dave,
there is a big story behind, ” Cedars, who the fuck is Cedars”
Thanks for your well wishing my friend,
catch u all soon..
Cedars and Sachu – dont allow the misunderstanding to run you guys fellas,
Keep calm and Paul scholes
Enjoy your stay here..
Cheers
We will keep the red flag flyin high coz Man United will never die
Manchester United.
Happy Bday Mikey Owen! 32 years young!
Fletch with a full recovery >>>>>>>>>>> United trophy less for ten years
King Eric, hello mate! The respect we are seeing for Fletch is a wonderful reflection of how much our son brings to United and to Scotland. He is loved for his dedication, attitude, professionalism; and especially his humility and depth. He is passionate, loyal and true.
Get well Fletch.
red – Oh turn it in pal. Won’t finish in top 4? Nonsense. Carrick on current form is one of the best around and Jones is a fucking monster. Relax man.
Cedars- Completely agree with you fletch is more important than trophies.
Get well soon
Cedars? Who the fuck is cedars?-love it to the max!
Isn’t watching United such a privilege? Whether you are at OT or simply watching them on tele…. The mere sight of those brilliant 11 lads walking out on the pitch still gives me joys beyond compare…Win lose or draw I do not care
I fucking love UNITED
Get well soon Fletch
King Eric- Hi mate. How are you? Ignore that red fellow he is a wum. He is not a united fan.
People who think Carrick is useless I have got two words for you FUCK OFF
Rumor has it Sir Alex is very interested in Trannyboy,he’s up for the role of Snow White in Utds xmas Pantomime.
Don’t want to sound negative, but the way some people have diagnosed Fletch in the papers, who knows if he’ll ever be back to 100%. Doesn’t seem like there’s a cure for this. Some have even talked about the bag alternative down the road. Really depressing stuff when you are talking about a 27 year old with so much energy.
Happy Birthday Michael, don’t let the squad take the mickey at your age!
moscow JT
Cheers! It is kind of catchy eh?
Ash
Loved the last 2 words in your post buddy…………
Bambi might be a better bet for ladyboy, or Bimbette from Beauty and the Beast.
Taxi for Ince? United should go for Modric and Iniesta! Must have us confused with the bitters. Not that the 2 lads aren’t top players. I love how everyone has a view on who Fergie should sign. Leave it to the genius Paul, eh?
Rumor has it that both Giggsy and Wazza have been urging the boss to sign Torres!
Buggers think they could be in for a decent shag!
Wazza would snap that toothpick at first thrust. His emaciated carcass would crumble.
Rodwell rumor could be legit,Everton are broke and Sir Alex has been interested for a while,another young English lad fee of 20mill,think that one could happen
No way JT is going to let his little bitch leave rentboys
@Smartalex & Wayne: LOL at your posts re: ladyboy torres, aka the Titless Wonder.
And you gotta laugh at Ince talking of Iniesta…too much time on the xbox, eh, paulieboy?
wayne
You make a good point about JT and his bitch, but surely there is enough love to go round no?
I wouldn’t mind Rodwell. He’s not gonna be on huge wages. A fee between 15/20 million, sounds about right. Everton need the dough. United need another option in there. Might not be good enough for Ince, but I’m sure he’ll get over it.
WOW – I haven’t been on here for ages and when I saw this article in the mail I thought I’d post a quick comment.
I wish Dazza all the best and I hope gets better soon. He is a great guy on and off the pitch, I believe he is quite close to Fergie too. I am a big Dazza fan and it really has saddened me to read this about him.
My family and I wish him all the best.
On a more positive note: hey guys! Im still in the closet! Lotion IN THE BASKET
CedarsDevil – Didn’t someone on RoM qualify as a Doctor of Medicine a few months back?
if he were here, he might express the profound medical opinion that:
“Darren fletcher will be back next season. I feel he should be given complete rest this season.”
The clinical precision with which that diagnostic prognosis and the remedial process necessary was ascertained and delivered leaves me ever-fearful of hospitalization.
Cedars knowing what a cunt JT is sure he wouldn’t have a problem pimping the little bitch out.
Seriously how far has Torres stock dropped,against City it’s 1-1 with half a hr left city down to ten men still doesn’t get a game,KE and i said the cunt was done at Liverpool FSW ruined his career playing him injured
Idea of a loan of an experienced player is an interesting one. Only problem is, unlike with a striker (eg Larsson), you need someone who’s going to be able to cope with the pace of the PL. This is unlikely in an experienced continental player.
Imagine if we could get Clarence Seedorf on loan, for example. Undoubtedly class. But would a lifetime in contintental leagues simply mean it’s too late for him to adapt to the pace of our game? Probably.
Do you feel the bums Fernando?
smartalex
At times I do not believe my friend, but merely choose to let things go
Torres costs less than Phil Jones.
lol just had a Pulp Fiction flashback,JT and the gimp in a box.
@Jeet – Who said his illness was a blessing in disguise? Even tho there are all sorts on RoM, doubt there was any malice behind it any road. Some people have a necessary habit of making the best of bad situations and to be fair theres nothing wrong in that, the Club has certainly been doing it for decades. My only point was not to turn this really bad news into a “my United duvet is newer than yours” thing. Apart from the trolls everybody here supports the Club so we don’t have to take pot shots at each other over blatant misunderstandings. Some people on here may have said “blessing in disguise”, but some people on here don’t even have English as a first language! Its a world wide blog of United supporters so we don’t have to have a go at each other when we could just as easily over-stand whats been said and keep it moving. Disagreeing over performances and players, okay, but when we’re all clearly gutted at this news we don’t have start arguing over vernacular and the like. Don’t think the Scotsman has actually been insulted once, so lets not go OTT over imagined slights was my point. Your point is taken tho mate, blessing in disguise isn’t the best way to describe this news, but then again communicating online has its limitations and is prone to cock ups even with the best intentions. Doubt anybody meant any harm so we can put the knives away methinks?
@Captain Park – I take it you didn’t read Giles Oakley’s article on the origins of the word Soccer? Turns out its as English as a Pint of Bitter, who would’ve knew?
There was the Kaka on loan rumor,maybe Maureen will show us all how much he loves us.
@Paul Parker: Ohh maybe you are right, maybe I was all het up and all…the guy in question though defo has English as a first language (actually, I don’t, but being Indian, it’s as good as my first language – definitely read more in English than in my mother toungue
)
Totally agree about the “my United duvet is newer than yours” – I’ve been ranting against that sort of thing for ages on here – eventually leads to something like “I’ve been a season ticket holder for 20 yrs hence my blood is Red-er than yours” – well fuck that. respect and all for being a long time fan, but don’t expect anyone to lickass.
Fair point though – if someone said it without understanding the connotations, then I’m sorry for being unnecessarily harsh and abusive.
But, and I made this point earlier, we all talk of merecenary players, but sometimes you really got to wonder about merecenary fans (and clubs). When a player is badly injured, I’ve been struck by how many so called die hard fans (not just RoM-ers or United fans, but generally, fans) can think of only one thing – their club’s compromised title chances. Makes you wonder if Keano had a bit of truth on his side with that “piece of meat” rant. Maybe it’s just a sign of our times, or maybe it’s just me being a big bleedin heart softie.
Fair enough Paul Parker. Emotions rule on a day like today, but there’s no real harm meant, and we all want the best for the team, and for Fletcher. We can move past the indiscretions.
It is not unlike Sir Alex to produce a signing from left field. It could happen at any time.
That said, it seems more like the Gaffer to continue as intended, using the full squad.
@Wayne, you almost made me throw up…:)
Jeet, you must be quite handy in your first language, for your English is impeccable.
Jeet same mate bad flashback
@Smartalex: Thanks so much – no match for you or Stateside Aussie though, to name but 2 of the best.
And actually, I am totally ashamed of the fact that I am quite awful with my mother tongue. Of course I speak fluently, but I’ve hardly read any literature in my mother toungue and I don’t think I’ve written a page in the last ten yrs. Nothing to be proud of – it’s terrible. My wife routinely takes the piss out of me for this. Lucky I got her to make things right with our son
Jeet, it is natural that growing one-on-one international communication leads to a common language, and others recede to some degree. This was not widely considered a couple of decades ago, but now that it is seen we know to pay more attention to our culture. We want our diversities to thrive and prosper together.
Any news on Clevz comeback?
@Jeet – no your right, there is def an element of mercenary support, goes with the territory. Im all for calling a cunt “a cunt”, but I’d rather not descend into paranoia at every suggestion of piss taking, and its easily done. End of the day when it gets a bit heated on RoM a balance is required, some doing the necessary kicking and the others doing the pulling off and calming down. Not the best analogy but it works for me! Nothing wrong with a bleeding heart every now & again either mate, reminds you your alive!
@Smartalex – you never know with Alex do you? Could sign another set of Twins in January or he could continue as is into next season with the aforementioned young midfield. All part and parcel of supporting Manchester United under Alex, long may it continue!
Can’t stand the Mail normally, but this article is actually quite informative about the illness Fletcher’s been suffering in silence with. (Apologies if already posted).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2073713/Darren-Fletcher-bowel-disease-recover-says-doctor.html
Laters RoM.
Fletcher.Man.Warrior.Icon.And now,Legend.
Whenever I think of Fletcherinho what I see in my mind’s-eye is an image of a World War II marine with face encrusted with smoke,grime and spent gunpowder.Eyes clear yet weary frm keeping one too many a vigil on sentry duty that his comrades may rest and renew strength.Body battered,bloodied and emaciated frm mortar shelling received over countless nights in the trenches without proper food or hygiene.
Helmet barely keeping his furrowed brow concealed with its strap unfastened.
Rifle @ the ready.Sun baked muddied boots @ ease.
Focussed on the fight ahead with ears,sinews,GUTS and all primed as he waits for that most beloved of commands to all true soldiers.
CHARGE!!!
We supporters love you to death Fletch.
This is wishing and praying for the speediest of remission to d ailment and return to d frontlines.Duty calls brother.
@RoM
This is not d time for proving who is wrong or right and exchange of harsh words and diatribes rather a time for sober reflection and spiritual reawakening.We all live for utd.lets b our brothers keeper and gently edify one another in brotherly love and kindness.Yes,I’v got religion cos I can’t stand any more casualties to my already threadbare squad.I enjoin you all do same by praying and fasting for our troops and supporting d various charities utd are involved in.
Jesus CAN make everything beautiful in his own good time.
One love keep us together.
GGMU!!!
Off topic – looks like I missed a good game last night
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2073838/Ronaldo-Zinedine-Zidane-join-Didier-Drogba-Match-Against-Poverty.html
Not sure if this has been posted already but…
Wayne Rooney’s big day out…
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/wayne-rooney-s-big-day-out-in-europe
Visit Paul Parker’s link at 15:03, if for nothing other than seeing the look on a Hamburg player’s face as Ronaldo the Rhinoceros rumbles by!
The Mail and everyone else is saying “Luis Suarez’s race-row 2-day hearing has begun under a clock of secrecy.”
About time. Get some resolution on this matter.
To much fanfare, the secret hearing began …
Maybe we’ll get lucky, and the cloak of secrecy will make Suarez disappear for good!
As a reminder, the FA announced the charge last month, alleging Suarez used ‘abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour’ towards Evra.
‘It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra,’ said the FA.
Liverpool said after the charge: ‘Luis remains determined to clear his name of the allegation made against him by Patrice Evra. The club remain fully supportive of Luis in this matter.’
Genius Paco Rabane! You might just be right.
I reckon that Suarez is going to get dumped. End of the road.
The ninnies at the FA will be milling around with blank expressions in this no-win situation for them. They will err on the side of truth for a change, for the fear of racism cover-up allegations is too great.
@smartalex “clock of secrecy” is it?
12:05 by my watch and way to late.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Dec/drinkwater-returns-for-treatment.aspx?
Another injury. This time, for Danny Drinkwater.
Hello all, a new day. I have much to read.
Also off topic: United is actually doing OK relative to other teams in this list of debatable decisions. But I do hate statistics that aren’t put in perspective. Are refs doing better or worse this year. http://www.debatabledecisions.com/ I actually think there is a chance that the UK might implement video refs before europe does. For me, it makes more sense than so called “goal line technology” since it could serve both purposes. My preferred plan would call for each bench to be limited to 2 reviews per match, with a 5th official moved from behind the goal (where he is worthless) and put in a box communicating with the other officials. In the best scenario, the ref would also have the option to a seek a review for certain types of decisions. The request for review would have to be accepted before start of play.
Such sad news about Fletch…I’ve always had massive respect for him and love his work rate and commitment to the team. I know it’s pessimistic but i cant see him playing for us again, at least not consistently. The loss of yet another classy midfielder…
If I remember rightly Fletch was down to play at Villa , but there was a mix up with his age he was only 15 and did my play . Then shortly after that he got injured a broken foot I think .
Sorry typo,
How chrono-illogical of me FletchTHEMAN. I fobbed you off with second hand hourlies. Watch my face, it’s time to clock out from minute miscellaneous memos on my muddled memes.
Macheda’s agent Bia:”I spoke with Ferguson last week and think Federico will play somewhere else. There is demand but only from abroad”
looks like macheda is gone in january. at least on loan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW7xI-T3ujU
5 goals by one of our own, Darren Fletcherinho! Last one is special. Get well soon lad!
Warren Joyce admits the Reserves are looking forward to Tomorrow night’s clash with Liverpool with added relish. The Moss Lane encounter is live on MUTV. United are still top of the table and will be keen to get back to winning ways.
“All games are big games really,” he declared to ManUtd.com. “They are all a chance for the boys to express themselves, work on the things we do in training and keep developing. It’s still a major game on Thursday night at this football club. Regardless of how Chelsea might have come on and City as well, Manchester United versus Liverpool is a big game at any level and the lads are looking forward to the match. We play another cup game before Christmas [next Thursday against Blackburn] and they keep coming thick and fast. That’s why the boys are training hard – because they are looking forward to playing in the matches.”
One player set to be involved again is Scott Wootton, who will hope to get another 90 minutes under his belt after recovering from a knee problem, before resuming his loan stint at Peterborough.
“Scott will have another game on Thursday, as he’s out been out that long. I think he was rusty last week by his own high standards from last season. He was short of that in the game at Sunderland but it was only his first match back and he needs to play to adapt to the level to go back out on loan.”
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2011/Dec/warren-joyce-previews-liverpool-reserves-game.aspx?pageNo=2
@Paco Rabane, Thanks for the brilliant link. Darren Fletcher not technically good my arse. He is almost too good technically.
@Stateside, If you do read this, I urge you to watch Moneyball if you haven’t already. (Though I have a feeling you might have.) I just saw it and those interested in statistics and sports should definitely watch the film, irrespective of whether they actually like baseball or not. I have no idea beyond the basics of the sport and still enjoyed it a lot. Apparently Billy Beane, the GM shown in the film, is developing a statistical method for analyzing players in football also.
Paco Rabane
Cheers for the terrific video pal, always loved that first one vs Charlton
taking a break from the Fletcher business(its not as if he’s passed away) and going way off topic. Curious if a 20 million Torres would interest anyone. If you do have an opinion i’d like to hear it . Personally i think it wouldn’t be a bad move. Realistically with the number of strikers we’ve got its a non issue but if there was spot available i’d be happy if Fergie went for it
Will also always remember his double against the bitters in that 4-3
Get well soon Fletch
Zelh – thanks for the news. Macheda should go to a Premier League club, preferably someone like Norwich or Sunderland, who have good managers. We don’t want a repeat of Giueppe Rossi’s waste-of-time loan spell at Newcastle.
FletchTHEMAN – video technology in football would make it much more difficult for corrupt referees to influence the outcomes of matches. That’s why I think it will never be introduced.
Slim
£20 million for a player who couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo hasn’t played well for over 2 years and is a whinging ex scouse twat! No thanks! Rather give Will Keane a shot!
Costas – Hello mate. Yeah saw Ince’s comments. Fucking Berba and Hernandez carried Wayne for large parts of last season so how the fuck can he say we are relying on Rooney? Idiotic failed manager. Best bit is for creativity we should get Modric. Creative? He has about 12 goals and 13 assists in his 4 years or so at Spurs. Nani provides that in a season. Best bit though was he said we should look at someone like Iniesta!!! Yeah he is gonna leave Barca. Pipe down Ince.
FletchDAMAN – That Debatable Decisions site is interesting. I find it hard to believe that City have had no debatable decisions go in their favour though. Could the creator of the site be a City fan? I’ll look into it. There was a league table from last year which showed that City had gained by far the most points through debatable decisions. I’ll try to find it.
The Torres issue was discussed earlier on this thread……….. The fact that I despise him and the fact that he is a ladyboy aside he has been way below average for almost 2 years so for me NO thanks
I don’t know why, but this link is blocked by RoM:
http://www.
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slim, What happened mate? I thought you were the one who always kept it real or are you taking the piss?
First of all, Fernando Torres is someone who I wouldn’t want anywhere near United. He is a prima donna if I ever saw one and his attitude stinks. Diving, I can get over because it is prevalent in football, but his general attitude is not something I would want at our club. Second and more to the point, 20 million is not easy money for United right now. That is, in fact, a shitload of money by our current standards. Why would we want to waste it on someone who is clearly past his sell-by date? We could get a perfectly decent mid-fielder at that price which is an area we should be strengthening.
In our strike department, we’ve got Rooney, Welbeck and Chicha who are our main three. We’ve got Berba whose contract is sure to be renewed as per Sir Alex and Owen who will be around maybe for another year, who knows. Then we’ve got Macheda and Diouf who might be moved on, but are currently on our payroll. We also have Nani and Young who can do perfectly capable jobs just off the striker in case of necessity. I honestly don’t understand the logic behind your thinking that Sir Alex should go for it.
Evening Monkey
How is that ankle pal?
Torres? I’d rather sign the hot chick, that sits on Chelsea’s bench!
Mikekelly12
LOL . Point taken. i don’t agree but point taken.
p.s you do know we have a couple of scouse twats on our payroll right. one even played for Liverpool
@slim, DUH! My second para is useless because you mentioned we don’t need him considering our strike options. I apologize for not reading your post properly.
Either ways, I wouldn’t want Torres anywhere near Old Trafford. God only knows what that will do to Cyril’s state of mind.
slim – Hello mate. Nah. As Wayne said earlier Torres was finished 2 years ago. The FSW played him through injury after injury and his pace has gone. IF however Fergie could get him playing again then yes the lad is top drawer finisher but won’t happen.
Ash – Hello mate. Hope you are well.
Cedars
Evening pal! It’s getting there!
Slim
Well aware mate, however one was free of charge and the other an exciting young prospect. Neither struck me as cheating whinging twats, although you’re right, definitely scouse.
SmartAlex Cheers mate.
Fred, Agreed about Cittay, The fact that in our gave v them a fair number of cards were not given was crucial to the outcome. If Kompany had been carded for his numerous hard tackles on Nani in the first 20 minuted it could have got him out of the game, instead, our winger was limping for the majority of the match.
To adequately count debatable decisions you would have poll a group of people watching with the commentators turned off. Can’t recall the match where the commentators didn’t sound biased for one team or the other.
@King Eric
Hi mate. How are things? 2-3 more days before your sleepless nights begin!
Don’t know what to make of those Ince comments other than the fact that he doesn’t follow football closely? Modric is an arguable suggestion, but it’s not as if Iniesta would ever join us. But the fact that he forgot Hernandez was even more surprising. Unless he thinks that Javier is out for the season or something. Everyone seems to be suggesting these creative players and it seems like I am the only one that feels like we don’t have a DM with bags of energy anymore. Replacing Fletcher when he’s absent has been our biggest problem for me in that area…
Are you people remotely serious? Torres at United? While we are at it why not through in Suarez into the mix and re sign Tevez as well….
Sorry folks but twats are not welcomed at OT
Balaji Sivaraman
sorry but i respectfully disagree. His attitude is not bad actually for someone who is a Big money signing. I haven’t heard any complaining from him even though its his poor form. Doesn’t moan on the pitch, flailing his arms when he doesn’t get the ball.
Second, we have no idea if Berb is gonna get a contract renewal. You say for sure but we simply don’t know. The logic you don’t get being we seem to want to play with 2 strikers up front. And like you say Kiko and Diouf look like getting the short end of the stick, we’ve always tried to have 4 strikers so its not as inconceivable as you think. Its one thing not liking a players its another dismissing him because of that. Fact. The boy is quality. Playing shit at the moment but that’s normal. Show me one striker who hasn’t struggled and i’ll show you Superman.
Third 20 million is not too much for United. We can afford it. Young was bought for an amount in the same region as was Phil Jones, DDG, Above 30 mill for the Berb. What are you on about? Of course we can afford it. I’m under the impression your dislike of the player is impacting your argument somewhat.
Fourth Nani and Young are Wingers and should remain so. Injury permitting thats where they’ll play 90% of the time
Mike
As long as that ankle of yours is not affecting your sex life than I will not feel sorry for you! hahahaha
CedarsDevil
No need to cast a wide net with “People” so ease up, i brought up the topic, and i’m yet to hear anyone give me a single reason why its a bad idea. Especially from a footballing perspective. All i seem to hear is “twat” to justify arguments. Throwing down the gauntlet. Still waiting
There is info coming in that the U17 match in south america ended 1-1 v Flamengo.
Reports are that United Academy lads have not faired well in this tournament, already loosing 2 matches.
Only decent news in on the tournament site, not updated to todays result.
http://www.future-champions.net/uncategorized/2011-u17-future-champions-belo-horizonte-day-02/
Slim
Were you not at the Chelsea game this season. The cunt was waiving his arms about and complaining to the ref ALL fucking match.
Jim Rosenthall has just welcomed Manchester United to the Europa League, I want to be sick!!
Hell i’ll even take the Youngsters are coming through arguments over most of what i’ve read so far. Will Keane is a personal favorite of mine. But he ain’t ready. If he his then you could argue the case for Pogba and we all know now he isn’t ready either.
Mikekelly12
dude you could say the same about any player. Isolating one incident isn’t proof. Rooney runs his mouth off constantly, Rio barks at refs , Nani – don’t get me started on him.
Still waiting
FletchTHEMAN
had high hopes for the young lads but its looking like a poor cup year for us. Still its good experience for these guys
slim
Fair enough buddy, he has been out of form for almost 2 years now and paying 20 million for someone who has been piss poor for such a long period of time is bad business
slim – I can only infer from your comments, that you’ve been watching Torres with blinkers on? The Torres of 3, 4 years ago was one of the best/feared forwards in Europe. The Torres we’re seeing now, is a washed up fraud mate. Hernandez will be back in the new year anyway. We’ve got Rooney, Berba and Welbeck to carry us through that time. IMO, that’s more than enough. But each to their own, I guess, if you think differently.
Balaji … g’day mate. No, I haven’t seen Moneyball (or read the book), but I will watch it when it’s out on DVD. I’ve been following baseball for a few years and am sort of familiar with what he did. Basically, he determined that many of the traditional statistical measures used in baeball to assess player, weren’t in fact useful. He developed an alternative set of stats which proved very successful, and as a result, his club (the Oakland A’s, just down the road from me!) were able to identify players “off the radar” of other clubs, and buy them cheaply. They bought some good talent cheaply and avoided wasting money on expensive but over-rated draft picks.
I heard that Beane is turning his interests to football. I don’t know how successful he will be. It seems to me that baseball and football are not only different sports, but fundamentally different kinds of sports. In baseball, as in cricket, what you have is essentially a series of one-on-one contests between individual players, a sequence of fairly isolated, self-contained contests. Football (and rugby, etc) is very different and places a much greater emphasis on interaction between players. “Chemistry” is much more significant in football than in baseball (or cricket), and I don’t know how that can be quantified or predicted statistically.
AVB clearly doesn’t rate Torres think his days at Chelsea are numbered unless Roman steps in,a lot of players will be moving on from there over the next season
I was thinking Fred might be a ok back up now Vidic is out
King Eric
Raise good point about the injury but its a damn waste thats for sure. Not so sure if he’s washed out though. that arse hole did play a part in wrecking him but he’s still got time. Who knows
Can anyone tell me why on earth we play QPR at breakfast time? I understand all the nonsense with early kick offs during derby games, I do not accept it but I understand it…. But we’re playing in London for fucks sake
Paco Rabane
lol. really. well the Rooney i watch today isn’t the Wayne Rooney i saw 3 years ago. Used to be able to hit a shot without thinking he was playing FIFA 12 chipping shots left right and centre, used to be able to take players on and dragging defenders. And now become an players thats easy to mark. No wonder he likes Tony V. As far as he’s concerned all he needs is the ball crossed to him to poke it home. Sorry but looks like you got a similar model to the blinkers i’ve got on.
CedarsDevil
the all mighty TV schedule mate
@slim, I dislike the player because I don’t think he has the proper attitude and I’ll stick by it. Others have already pointed out instances where he has shown himself to be a prima donna. More to the point, I never said he was a bad player. He is a top fucking finisher and I put him right up there Rooney and the Drog a couple of years ago when he was in his prime. Right now, he looks fucking finished. He doesn’t seem to have the stomach for it in England anymore. Bad form is one thing but he seems to be plagued by something else. As many people have surmised, I expect him to move back to Spain anytime soon which is where he should feel comfortable after a few years in England.
And yes, 20 million is too much money for United under the Glazer regime. Sir Alex was given a lot of money in the summer and he chose not to spend it on a mid-fielder, fair enough. Right now, if he was offered that amount of money, he would probably want to take a bit more and get a MF in asap. The bigger problem will be his wages. He wouldn’t want to take a huge cut to come and play for us. Sure, given his present form, he should be willing to take a bit of a cut but not a huge one. I don’t think we can afford such huge wage players right now in the Glazer regime, especially if we are planning to bring a mid-fielder into our payroll also. If Berbatov’s contract is not going to be renewed, then Torres’ wages might be financially viable. As it is, I believe Sir Alex when he says Berbatov stays. I have never had a reason to doubt the boss and especially right now, I think there is a great possibility that Berbatov is going to stay.
CedarsDevil
it does raise eyebrows paying a chunk of money for an out of form player. but hey we’ve done weirder stuff. Shelved out 10 mill for a player we’ve never seen kick a football before. Not too crazy if you ask me
Balaji Sivaraman
yeah like when and i quote he said ” i wouldn’t sell a virus to that mob” and went ahead and sold the queen bee of prima donnas aka Mr i-am-the-best-dresser Ronaldo? . Sorry mate not buying what you’re selling
@Stateside, That is exactly what he did mate. He himself was a failed first round draft pick who was expected to have a big future ahead of him. The movie doesn’t go into a lot of the actual statistical details but enough to serve a point about the difference his method made. I thought it was a brilliant film because I always love me some sports films and love me some sports stats. I don’t know why but throughout the film, I kept thinking Stateside would love this one, largely because you are also a stat nut.
Anyways, I also agree that such measures might work in Baseball and Cricket which are more about averages (hitting, pitching, batting, bowling etc.) of the individual, but not necessarily in football which is a proper team sport if ever there was one. That is the same line of thought that went through my mind as I saw the film. In those other games, a brilliant performance from one guy can overcome the other deficiencies in the team. In football, one brilliant player can “never” overcome the deficiencies of 10 average players at the highest levels of play. Don’t believe me, just ask Messi and Argentina.
slim
You mean Smalling? Totally different story pal, he had potential and is obviously showing it….
Some part of me cannot hide the fact that you are just taking the piss here!
@slim, Well, you only addressed the second part of my post. And I definitely know not everybody will have complete, naive trust in Sir Alex’s words. Me, I treat his words like gospel and I know that maybe wrong, but that’s just me.
However, I still believe that financially it will be a disastrous move for United all things considered. Which is the actual reasoning I gave in that post. Both his transfer fees and his wages are better spent elsewhere given the stringent financial regulations imposed under the Glazer regime.
Slim
As I don’t follow Torres week in week out, I take the moments I seehim against United as the norm, a huge assumption I know but the only one I am able to base it on so appologies if you think I’m just taking an isolated incident. If you can offer a more reliable source of information regarding his attitude I’m more than happy to listen. In regards to reasons, I just don’t think spending £20m on a player whose form has dipped so alarmingly in the last 2 years is not money best spent. So why do you think it would be a good idea signing him? Heard Guilelme Bualige today who said rumours linking Torres and David Villa with moves away are bollocks?!
Slim, Rooneys game has evolved. His game has changed with his responsibility’s. He is awesome, hits 40 yard passes, 1,2 touch football going forward, his second goal go watch it again slim. He sees the angle of the cross sooner then anyone else. Takes 2 elongated slow downed stride’s Positions his feet and body to get on top of the ball FUCKING GENIUS!!!
Your personal hatred for Rooney fogs your view of his IMPORTANCE to Man Utd.
slim – Well, Rooney has 13, 14 goals this season? Not bad. My blinkers are see through. Yours must be welded on!
@Slim.. I think SAF would have gone for the Torres of 3-4 years ago when he was absolute class. But, the current Torres is way too injury prone and out of form.
Slim … I’d be interested to hear why you think Torres has gone off the boil for so long. What’s up with him? Not that I care about him, but if you’re going to argue in his favor, it would help if you have some idea of why he has been out of sorts and why that problem (whatever it is) would be fixed if he came to OT.
And now Rooney is being discussed which of course awakes the mighty Zibbie! hahaha
Paco Rabane
I like your way of thinking, in fact I enjoy your posts too!
Paco, it starts with a question of Torres and turns into a Rooney slam. The witch hunters were out after the 4-1 calling Rooney overrated and blah, blah, blah.
Slim I like and read all his post, like many here have not moved on from last Oct. Rooney is coming into his prime and always plays hard and with passion. 340+ games, 160+ goals, plays mf, fb, never talks back and complains. Just bust’s his ball for the club. And all some can do is bust his balls.
Not sure if Torres could turn his career around or not at United, but if we have 20mil to spend in January, we don’t need to spend it on strikers.
Following on from slim’s brilliant suggestion on Torres a good friend just text me the following
Why not sign Stevie Me to replace Fletch! hahahahaha
Rooney >>>>>> Torres any day of the week
Ok I don’t give a fuck about the Glaziers but please when posters start talking about the restrictions Sir Alex is under in regards to transfers,please start posting the links to the information because I’ve been going on Newsnow every morning for years and have yet to read one article that the Glaziers have refused Sir Alex money for any player
If you don’t have links were is this information coming from your ass,
I’ve never been able to work out whether Torres is a good player who had a couple of great seasons, or a great player whose form has dipped. In any event, he has only one purpose, which is to score goals — he has never been a striker who creates chance for others (with a career total of only 32 assists in 426 matches, it’s best not to talk about that aspect of his play), and he certainly has’t been scoring many goals for quite a long time.
CedarsDevil – I say we sign Stevie me, and give him a job in United’s museum. He could polish all our premier league trophies. Only chance he’ll get to touch that trophy in his lifetime.
Get well soon Fletch. Focus on your recovery first and foremost. You will play for united once again . Good to see positive sentiments from other fan basis too. Hes a well respected no no nonesense pro.
Besides, wait until Torres is 30, injury prone and out of contract. The we can get him for nothing.
Paco Rabane
Not a good idea pal, he’ll probably steal them! hahaha
wayne
Loved your post on Fletch way earlier on this thread mate
@wayne, I guess your post was because of mine about the Glazers’ restrictions. As everybody will know, I am someone who thinks that the Glazers’ are the known evil. I don’t think Sir Alex has been refused money because he would’ve fucked with the Yanks’ plans a long time ago if he was. But we are under strict regulations as far as the wage bill is concerned. I think any discerning supporter should be able to see that. And that is the main reason why I think Torres is a strict no-go area for me.
Just making my point clear about what I meant in the previous posts. That is all.
Cedars thanks mate from the heart bro
No team I’ve managed has ever lost a European Final, and I don’t like the look of Torres.
Next.
Stevie Me…. He’s probably got a similar strike rate to Torres this year and possibly more assists. £15m should snare him. Some cheeky monkeys out there Cedars!!
Come to think of it, no team I’ve managed has ever lost a European game, never mind Final, and no, I still don’t like the look of Torres.
Do your lips feel numb Fernando?
wayne
I knew it was heart felt my friend….
Mike
We have to keep them monkeys in check pal! hahaha
@Wayne hello, here comes a back handed compliment. Wayne feels a certain way towards Wazza. I respect how he slams him. Wayne is consistent with his opinion and feels as I do, even if Man Utd had a oil sugar daddy, building a world class team like 5 times now SAF IS THE WAY TO GO, he uses academy players, purchases young talent to develop, tweeners like Evra, Vida and Carrick. Then like Berba, Rio, Rooney, Keane the King he drops some big $ for big players. I like that and true $$$ grabbers can fuck off. I do not mind Rooney getting paid what he is worth. But if the Shity $$$$ means more then WE DON’T WANT YOU!!!! EVAN ROONEY!!! He fucked up and stayed. Has shut up since.
There was something in the air that night, his hair was shite…Fernando!!!
How was Carrick’s bullet header early in the game against Wolves. He’s looking good.
@Paco – that Fletcher video showed some classic goals Pal. Its been a huge loss not having him 100% the whole time, really does explain a lot about the last few seasons.
He’s half a man he’s half a boy Torres Torres
He looks just like a tranvestite Torres Torres
He wears a frock he loves the cock
He sells sells his arse on Albert dock
Fernando torres, carraghers bit on the side
He waved his hand with the number of five at old Trafford and were talking about signing the cunt?
Let him fucking rot on the rent boys bench the tranny boy, cock smuggling, waste of money, I’m a Liverpool fan yet ill fuck off at the first opportunity cunt
ABBA probably had the ladyboy in mind when they wrote that song all those years ago
Heshe was awesome for 3 years, his/her game was all speed. Since he was hurt, less speed and no confidence. A 30+ million pound Che$ki mistake. With FFP this can mean something down the road.
I forgot big $ Veron
Giggs12Gerrard0
Now that was a belting song my friend! K Stand at its best……. Loved it
Now you’re old and frail fernando
and for many years we’ve seen that handbag in your hand
No teeth just gums fernando
do you still recall the frightful night they broke on Rio’s Grand?
Stateside, when heshe was at the Pool having that great run. I think Alonso’s deep distribution to Steveme a Kuyt played into heshe runs. Making him the focal point for 3 good distributors. In the system they ran it suited him with all that speed.
Will never forget the sight of Rio picking up that tranny off the ground at the bridge after he had fallen down like a little girl
Get well soon Fletch !!! his energy and tackling skills in midfield will be thoroughly missed
See Rooneys game does not rely on speed. At 35 he will finish at holding MF still winning medals.
I’d like to see Torres go out to Bolton on loan to get his confidence back. A lad with such a great attitude as his would really knuckle down and shine there!!
Thanks Zibbie mate,Wazza broke my heart and will never forgive him the way he treated Utd,never begrudged him a pay rise just the way he did it.I used to be his biggest defender the way you are now I respect that Zibbie
Mike
Seems you are clueless pal, was thinking more of Wigan to be honest !
Well Wayne I respect you mate.
I see Michael Kissing Fredo. You as Michael and Rooney as Fredo.
In the Modren game on a scale of 1 to 10 on $ grubbing cunt scale I give Rooney a 4.
Cedars
Exactly mate exactly the little fucking tranny 20 million or not for a player of his calibre I would not give him the steam off my piss. It’s bad enough that Owen plays for us
Wayne, I can not defend how he did it, just that that he could do it. Fucking rich ass owners making millions, fucking club doubled in value and they low ball a player of his quality!!!! Fuck the owners pay the players. Man Utd pay structure is fine made 100 mill last year.
There’s a town called Cockermouth in Cumbria (true story)
Headlines:
Torres Is Coming In Cockermouth FC Swoop!
Giggs12Gerrard0
Would not give him the steam of my piss……… New RoM classic quote……..
Brilliant
Cedars
Aha, that is where my superior knowledge usurps you. At Wigan young Fernando would have to take a pay cut whereas the Bolton high rollers would be able to keep the boys in highlights for years to come!!
Mike
You make a decent point and furthermore trannies always look better in white I suppose!
Are we on or off topic here?
Zibbie no doubt would have earned more money at City.A lot of lads think Sir Alex put on an act when he went public,I think Rooneys actions really hurt the great man.
Sir Alex had no choice otherwise letting him go to City would have been a sign of weakness,still think if the price and timing was right Sir Alex would ship him out
Hey folks. Anyone else watching C5 for once when usually they could give two sloppy craps about the Europa?
Something has just dawned on me though. The very worst thing about it is have to deal with that wife beating dogging abu pervert twunt doing the programme.
Cedars
Those stripes at Wigan would make him look like a camp sailor!
So… Anyone think we should sign fat Frank ? Similar issues to Fernando and hits our trouble spot!!!!!
Zibbie mate Utds always had a pay structure think its based on percentage and all the clubs paying crazy wages are losing millions.A lot of clubs are really struggling to survive so I think players wages is a big problem
What’s the difference between my £50 Ford Cortina and a £50 million Fernando Torres?
My £50 Ford Cortina starts.
Wayne
I think the pay structure is that it shouldn’t exceed 50% of turnover. Something like that. I’m sure the more financial savvy members of ROM will fill us in.
Its a good job Joleon Lescott, got his hands up in giving that penalty away on Monday …..
a shot struck that hard could have caused some considerable improvement to his face
Mike
Starting to doubt your knowledge of the game pal….. Only player we should sign is Lucas, he would do do a great job at holding my left nut as I watch United
hahahaha
I thought Torres played well against us he was a threat all the game but when he missed that sitter his confidence was shot , he never got it back but Torres in the right hands (SAF) who knows.
Cedars
Lucas scousewalker becomes Nutty Holder. Oh I wish it could be Cedars everydaaaaaay, when the scousers lose and United win awaaaaaaay!!
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7378132/?
Kiko ready for a loan stint in January. I hope it’s to a club in the prem.
Djemba Djemba is back on English soil!
StatesideAussie
Thanks mate. thats all i was interested in really, a proper discussion. In my opinion the guy moved to the wrong club, he’s made the mistake twice in his career if you ask me. Moving to Liverpool and then Chelsea. The latter is a team that relies on power, power in the middle, on the wings in attack and defense. Also the managerial situation at Chelsea is a joke. Only the old heads there have a future. Sounds weird i know. Lampard, Drogba, Terry, Cole anyone else added to the squad just messes up the chemistry. Look at all the good players who they’ve shat on. Shevchenko, Torres, Robben,Anelka. Speaking of the French man, how is it that he can’t seem to play with Drogba, you’d think that was the perfect partnership, both have pace, strong good on the ball. Perfect scenario but its never really worked out. On paper its like having Ruud and Rooney.
Someone mentioned they were having difficulty figuring out if he’s a flash in the pan or having a serious dip in form and i understand where that posters coming from. Bad decisions throughout his career, injury have screwed him over. Like you say the player doesn’t really concern me and i wasn’t angling for a move. I just wanted to see the reaction of readers and predictably no one came up anything sensible apart from insults and “catchy tunes”. I think someone even mentioned his “looks”. Yeah right like our own Phil Jones putting on Make up and hair product screams i’m a tough guy. I’ve learned not to get into liking a player or disliking it- unless the player is truly an ass, likes to show it and wants everyone to know it. I keep myself to myself on players personality because we simply don’t know shit about them. But hey.apparently I’ve got blinkers on. I’ll leave it to the Judges and jury to decide.
He might be washed up like some say, but by that token some of ours are as well.
But we know(or feel) that isn’t true. He’s a fantastic goal scorer, got a wonderful touch(better than Roo’s in my opinion). Good player in a shit club is my final thought on the matter.In any case SAF doesn’t particularly like him , so i know there’s no chance of him looking in that direction
Mike
Cheers for pissing me off, speaking of which i am pissing off to bed!
Best wishes for a rapid recovery to Fletcher… He should visit our beautiful sunny Malta for a 5star holiday and chill out for a week or two… think it will make him feel better
Oh I meant pissing me and not not off! hahahah
speaking of rooney, i’d put Torres and Rooney in the same bracket. In my opinion both players haven’t lived up to expectations, the only difference is Roo plays for a club thats been successful. I remember David Moyes urging Rooney to stay and using Torres as an example of a player staying with his boy hood club (A.madrid)and all that shit. That was until Liverpool came calling of course
Costas
Lord have mercy, You’re kidding right. Where? With who? Premier League?
CedarsDevil
You moan about other making snide comments, yet you’re doing the same, Granted not against our players, nevertheless you’re doing it.don’t get too upset if others do it back.
Ch5 OdenseBK v Fulham, finished as a draw 2-2
Eric Djemba Djemba comming on as a late sub for Odense!
Wouldn’t that be special to meet up with our former reject in the later rounds?!
Sweet dreams cedars.
Nicky
Malta hey, an old mate of mine works for the Maltese Olympic Comittee. Invited me out there loads but never had time to go. Heard it’s very nice though.
slim
Do explain pal, snide how exactly?
Night all
slim, No one argued that Torres is not a first-rate finisher. He was easily one of the top strikers in the world a couple of seasons ago, and probably still is. I personally had an issue with Ronaldo’s attitude when he was here. I still have an issue with Nani’s attitude sometimes though he is changing it. I have had an issue with Rooney’s attitude at many times. I sometimes cringe when Berbatov throws up his arms. And I’ve seen Torres do equally annoying things on a football pitch when it comes to acting like a prima donna. So, forgive me if I am not as drawn to him in terms of football character as you seem to be.
Secondly, and the point you have not properly argued against is, why would we spend 20 million on an off-form striker when a mid-fielder is of prime concern. Also, even if we find the 20 million, who is going to give in to his wage demands. That is the issue I highlighted. He is on a significantly higher wage packet than what we currently have within our limits. He wouldn’t be willing to take a huge paycut and is thus scratched off our list then and there.
Also, you mostly just ignore the sensible posts because it doesn’t suit your line of reasoning. Now, I don’t mind anyone having a different opinion. In fact, I love it. But sometimes people who are a contrarian take a condescending approach towards people who follow the well-beaten path: like your line in the previous post: “predictably no one came up anything sensible”. I am sorry but that kind of line just seems high-brow to me. That is what you seem to be doing. People have provided a number of arguments and they all have said it with an honest mind. So, how come they’re not sensible: Just because you don’t agree with their line of thought doesn’t make that any less sensible or true. Debates are fine but totally disregarding other people’s opinions is something I cannot swallow.
@slim
Sorry for the late response. Like Fletch said, he came on as a sub at Fulham. And he apparently brought them bad luck.
We won’t meet them later in the competition though. Odense were elimninated along with Fulham.
Lazio, Salzburg, Steaua, Wisla Krakow and Lokomotiv Moscow the 5 possible opponents that we found out tonight…
Slim
That’s it, he’s at the wrong club? That’s your “sensible” argument that blows all the other nonsense out the water? Awesome!
Actually looks like no way for either Fulham (3rd in group) or Odense (bottom) to progress. The draw didn’t really help either one. Gotta hurt Fulham pride to concede on the last kick of the game.
Europa league excitement! MMMMmmm!
Costas
okay i see, the Europa league. i thought he was signing for an English club
Those teams join Hannover, Legia Warsaw, Porto, Ajax, Trabzonspor and Plzen in the list of potential opponents of course.
Mikekelly12
Okay then Einstein. Tell me what was wrong with Veron or if i want to open a can of worms. Berbatov? I’ll take your Veron retort first
@slim
Well we are short of options in the midfield area so you never know. The 2nd player that Fergie has ever resigned?
slim … yeah, no worries. The parallel between Torres and Shevchenko is striking. Maybe both ran into the “Chelsea mafia”. Wouldn’t surprise me.
He moved to the wrong club? Thats his problem. Rooney moved to United, well done Wayne! That’s called having great foresight.
The question is, should we go for Torres now? IMO, no. And I’ll leave it at that. Rooney, Welbeck and Berba, with little pea in the new year, will do us fine. If the boss moves for anyone in January, my guess is, a midfielder will be on the agenda.
Slim
Veron at Chelsea? Probably at the wrong club pal. Berba? Last seasons prem leading goalscorer? Hmmm… Should have signed for Liverpool. He’d have been awesome. Night night ROM, time for my beauty sleep.
Costas. See you are up on your research mate. Better than I, as usual!
Just for travel, I hope we don’t get Lokomotive or Steaua.
Manchester:
to Lazio 2211km
to Salzburg 1627km
to Steaua 3115km
to Wisla Krakow 1954km
to Lokomotiv Moscow 3292km
Balaji Sivaraman
Dude form aside (as if right?) i haven’t heard any thing other than tranny jibes, you went on the financial angle but thats not entirely accurate. The club can afford that figure. How much were we willing to pay for the Wes. Salary and transfer fee?
And i haven’t been condescending.i don’t expect 100% agreement on any topic, just that you(not you personally) back up what you’re saying and if you cant see that a pre-determined mindset is used in most of the arguments then i give up.
Never even said we should go for him, all i asked was peoples opinion on a player if he was available,and if Fergie does decide to buy a striker who are we to say thats not what we need. We needed a CM and we got young(winger) so that knocks your arguments out the water.The man himself has said he’s happy with his midfield so what are you on about. SAF will get who he wants, where he wants and when he wants.
I wouldn’t take Torres even if he was in the form of his life. He is, and always has been, a cunt.
Don’t know why anyone is mocking Lucas. I would take him in a heartbeat over a certain Brazillian at our club. The one at our club has had nowt but support getting his name sung week in week out. Lucas was a comedy figure. Much derided and disliked by his own fans. He knuckled down, ignored the haters and has developed into a top young player. Fair play to him.
As for Torres he wasn’t a flash in the pan. He was devastating at the dippers till all his groin injuries and scored the winner for Spain in the Euro finals. First liverpool player to get to a ton in the quickest time. He was quality BUT as I say that fat muppet played him through injuries out of necessity. Ruined him. As for his attitude no don’t like him. Remember the pen spot incident at OT a couple of years back? He is forever whinging at mouthing at refs etc. He looks like an imposter the last two years.
Well we know the transfer money was there for WS and Nasri so why wouldn’t still be available
Why the fuck would Utd want trannyboy he’s had 1 good season in England and I believe only one season with 20+ goals.The cunts a light weight, fucking sulks and vanishes when things don’t go his way
Costas has Europa League fever.
Sources close to me are saying that Ronaldo Original TM Zidane and Figo are prepared to come out of retirement and play for United as long as they are given assurances that Paul Scholes will come out of retirement too
However another close source has let it known that Scholsey has no intention whatsoever to come out of retirement for Ronaldo Original TM Zidane and Figo
Alas yet again it will never be – my third source has confided in me that Ronaldo Original TM Zidane and Figo are in tears but completely understand Paul Scholes position – his loyalty to his family has to be commended.
Henrik Larsson was unavailable for comment – unapproachable apparently
The next player we will attempt to sign is Eden Hazard. YHIHF.
I never quite understood how injuries ruined Torres’ pace? Shouldn’t the same have applied to Ruud after his devastating injury in 2000? 2-3 years later he was healthy as a horse. Imo it’s probably more related to Torres being unmotivated and not having a Ferguson in his ear…
@Fletch, Fred
I am really getting excited about the EL now.
Imagine playing at Warsaw or Krakow. 
Nice job on the distances Fletch. Obviously Salzburg would be the prefered choice. Pretty close and a relatively low hurdle.
Fletcher in Crutches >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torres.
But honestly. Why do you lot bother with this nonsense.
As far as I can see, we have been linked with every available player in recent couple of weeks.
We need midfielders and fullbacks, maybe a controlling centerback. Lucas, hmmm maybe. Why on earth do we need another striker? Why does this always start sounding more like FootieManager than a proper ROM discussion. We won’t know till the club tells us, full stop.
slim, Ah, but that was Wesley Sneijder we are talking about and we apparently were offering him sums never heard of when it comes to United. And this is Fernando Torres we’re talking about. What we were willing to offer Sneijder as an asset is not the same as what we would be willing to offer Torres as an asset. That’s like saying we will pay a shitload for Sneijder -> That means we have cash -> That means we should pay a shitload for the next person as well. If the person in question is not Sneijder or someone who is going to make noteworthy difference, then the cash/wage packet on offer goes way down. And I don’t think that figure is something Torres will be interested in given the kind of wages he is on at the cash-cow that is Chelsea.
Yeah, I don’t expect 100% agreement on any topic either, but I just did not like the way you dismissed the other comments as “not being sensible.” There were a few tranny comments, and I think they were sensibly written by the posters in their best state of mind because they absolutely hate the player. Most notably, the question of his form has been brought up and I don’t think his problem at the moment is as simple as to be a “form” issue as I highlighted before. What the actual problem is, if there is even one, I don’t know.
King Eric, I agree on Lucas. I saw him in the City match and thought he was MOM in that one. As you say, he was derided by his own fans and put his foot down and has become to Liverpool what Michael Carrick is to us. He has also won his fans over. That takes a shitload of character and you have to admire him for that. It reminds you of a certain Scotsman at our club, doesn’t it?
With that, it is good night from me. Will check the replies if any in the morning.
I don’t get people writing torres off. As the saying goes, class is permanent and if under a manager like sir alex then he’d be a machine again, he has chosen the wrong clubs since departing athletico madrid, should have came to united when the chances arose but he went for the comfort zone of the spanish contingent of benitez. If sir alex was to go for him again then i’d have no qualms about it, doubt that will happen but he’d fit in perfectly into United’s fast paced style, will bringing experience of winning european and worldcup championships for spain, if Fergie wanted him then he’s capable of reviving him as a player.
King Eric – So, you rate Lucas, but not Modric? Lol. Did slim lend you his blinkers? LOL. He’s improved, I’ll admit that. Every time i watch him though, he gives away free kick, after free kick! I don’t see it, but I’m no expert. I certainly wouldn’t take him over Ando.
I would rather see other 1st string Spanish talent than Torres. United is building and having a nexus of players from a key country like Spain will support lads like DeGea who is going to feel isolated.
MichaelOwen off the bench and English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torres
Just sayin.
Safer for the showers as well!
Yeah Torres has really showed he’s class at Rentboys he’s a fucking girl Utd don’t need him,I for one don’t want to see the tranny cunt anywere near OT
Michael Owen better than Torres
This is what three real fucking players look like:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/10/article-1093683-02C4281E000005DC-17_468x349.jpg
Welbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Torres
Actually surprised some still think the bitch has something left in him. He’ll end up at Malaga. They’ve got the money. Not us, though.
slim, Oh, and I completely agree that most arguments start because of pre-determined mindsets. That is why there debates. My mindset is simple: I don’t want Torres anywhere near United. However, my argument is because he isn’t a financially viable option. Some people will ask how I can state this. I draw my inferences based on what I read elsewhere and I agree with most of the assessments that have been made on our wage bills on the Internet. Hence, I utilize that line of reasoning as to why Torres is not financially viable given what he is currently earning at Chelsea. I don’t expect everyone to agree with that and that is completely fine by me.
Leaving aside the issue of finance, I just don’t like him as a character. Like I said, I never liked Ronaldo as a character either. Some part of me still has an issue with Nani as a character and a large part of me is starting to have an issue with Rooney as a character. So, I am not particularly biased. Unfortunately the latter two play for us and require my unrequited support which I duly provide. Torres, on the other hand, does not. And I don’t want one more prima donna in the United squad.
In terms of football, I think it is not form. I kinda agree with Costas in that he doesn’t have someone like Sir Alex in his ear all the time and that could be the issue. However, I am not sure. Part of me – again due to my mindset – wants to think that it has something to do with his attitude in general. However, no one can be sure of what it is.
Maybe he will start firing like he did. Maybe he won’t. I don’t think it is worth a 20 million bet to see whether he starts firing or keeps misfiring.
Either ways, I am definitely off. I just wanted to add that extra bit before I hit the sack very late.
Oh, and all of these posts discussing slim’s original point are complete crap, since this is something that is not even a remotely possibly consideration. However, it is a nice source of discussion even if it is based a completely baseless hypothetical situation.
Anyway the priority right now is bringing in quality midfielders or bringing through. We aren’t lacking in the striking department but with berbatov and owen soon to depart then it’s not a bad idea to bring in another striker or two because as a team, you can’t ever stop improving.
Fergie seems to like macheda so the italian may well fill a part of the void if he can come back from his potential loan spell to a premier league club as a stronger and much improved player, i wouldn’t hold my breath on that but perhaps Fergie sees potential that others don’t….,-.
So Fred, Proper United legends there. If not for the fact that Michael won his EPOTY in a LFC shirt, that picture could have Owen it it for his accomplishments. It will never ever have Torres. Just sayin……. Owen as scored.
BTW New tread up for those that are interested!
Paco Rabane
i concur. In a year or so the boy is going to be a beast
First up, best wishes to Fletch and his family. Fletch is a young man so it must be crushing for him mentally as well as physically to be struck down with such a debilitating illness in his prime.
Given the comments above from those who know about the illness, I doubt whether the nature of it was much of a ‘mystery’ at all to SAF and key insiders at the club. If this is so – in fact regardless of whether they knew the extent of the illness or not – it is to United’s and SAF’s credit that they stood by Fletch all this time, giving him every encouragement to regain his position on the team. Again, United has shown an all too rare example of loyalty and decency to a business that is overrun by inflated egos and money mad whores.
It’s sobering to think that had Fletch been playing for the likes of City or Chelski or some similar despot owned shit-hole for mercenaries he’d probably have been thrown on the scrap heap at the first whiff of a problem. This is why I never wanted the likes of Sneijder and his piss taking, corrupting demands on our books. MF crisis? Marquee signings? Fuck off. It’s irrelevant at a time like this and we’ll get by even if we have to bring on the kids. We’ve won more trophies by keeping our values than all the Chelskis and Shitty’s combined.
Good luck Fletch.
King Eric … “First liverpool player to get to a ton in the quickest time.” A ton of what, though, mate? Surely not goals. According to Wikipedia, he scored a total of 81 goals in 142 games for the dippers, including 65 goals in 102 PL games. In 10 full seasons in top-flight leagues (Spain and England), he has only reached or bettered 20 league goals once — that was his 24 in 07/08. At Madrid, his best league haul was 19. I’ll admit there was a time when I thought he would be a world-beater — but even then, I was thinking of it as something he would become, not something he already was. As in, “If this guy keeps going, he’ll be in the 2 or 3 best in the world.” But he didn’t keep going. Maybe it was injury that did him, maybe it was a change of club, maybe whatever. I don’t know.
Mr C … top post, that. I’ll put my hand up and say I wanted Sneijder — but I put my hand back down again pretty quick when I heard what he was asking. Of course, none of us really knows what he wanted — but all of the figures I heard were off the planet. And even if they were all wrong, I look at like this: it seemed apparent the club did attempt to get him, and it seems obvious that the sticking point wasn’t the fee but the wages. And any player who turns us down because we aren’t prepared to pay his wage demands, is by definition taking the piss. Good riddance!
Paco Rabbane. Preferred the old Jazz and Kourous at school myself! Urgh. Ha. No mate I aint saying Lucas is any better than modric but I have never rated Modric. Ask Willie. Where the fuck is Willie? I just don’t buy this “creative“ player he is line. He scores and assists fuck all and rarely controls a game. Yes he is neat and tidy but that’s all I see. I really do want to like him but whenever I watch spurs I pay particular attention to him and to me he always appears ordinary. Nowt like worth the forty mill spurs want for him. That’s just my opionion of course as I know there are plenty that rave about him. Yet to see him boss a big game.
Oooh. How harsh and slack was that of Fulham. Six seconds to hold on.
A ton of shit! Lol. Seriously though, he was class, for a few seasons. Never seen any striker make Vidic look ordinary, the way he did. He peaked in the 08/09 season. He, and Gerrard were mustard that season. Took United to the cleaners in the game I like to forget. Funny thing though, neither player has hit the same heights since.
@King Eric
Stats aren’t everything though. If you always go by stats to judge a player, then Charlie Adam would’ve been one of the best players in the prem last season. Modric is a player who makes Spurs tick. He probably should be scoring more goals. If you’re judging him with the likes Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard, then his stats certainly don’t stack up. Goal wise, anyway. Carrick is a prime example. He doesn’t bang the goals in, but is anyone seriously telling me, he doesn’t serve a purpose for United? Of course he does. We all know how good Xavi is. Not known for his goal output though. Not comparing Modric to Xavi and Scholes by the way lol. Just making a point!
DECEMBER 14, 2011 AT 21:20
wayne says:
Zibbie no doubt would have earned more money at City.A lot of lads think Sir Alex put on an act when he went public,I think Rooneys actions really hurt the great man.
Sir Alex had no choice otherwise letting him go to City would have been a sign of weakness,still think if the price and timing was right Sir Alex would ship him out
I agree, Rooney fucked up he knew it almost as he said those hurtful things. A G. Nev story was linked some months back. Rooney comes in to the looker room and he says sorry to G. Nev and Gary said fuck you what are you doing here he heard Rooney out told him to say sorry to every one man to man he did they moved on.
I liked the 30 some guys who showed at Rooney’s house that night. I do believe on the SAF pissed off thing, he was more upset with the Glazzers they did not offer more without threats from the Rooney camp.
I think it is time to try Ashley in the midfield. His passes are short, Cleverly like. Why not?
“I know exactly how difficult it is and I wish Darren all the best because it can be dealt with,” Bath flanker Lewis Moody told The Sun.
“I know how frustrating it can be because it can take quite a time to work out exactly what is wrong. And while there is no definitive cure you just have to accept that every case is individual.”
Fuck!!! It is so unfair. Why doesn´t those how deserve it get those kind of diseases like Terry or Suarez or for that matter Rooney after last years debacle. NO instead it happens to the most down to earth, hardworking, making-the-talk-on-the-field-kind-of-players like Fletch. It´s fucking not right!!!!!!!!!!!
Get well really really quick cause it´s already proven that Giggs and jones isn´t trustworthy in the center, and we can´t depend on T.C how seem to break down pretty often and we can´t play with Carrick alone in the center of the park, even do I think he will manage that too.
I just got my third sms this month advising me of a £500,000 win in a compo I never entered.
I’ll put all 3 x £500,000, being 1½ million Pounds Sterling, into the fund to keep Torres away.
Stateside – Oh my mistake. I thought he had a hundred goals. He was the first to fifty then!!!