Ben Foster, who has just made a £6m move to Birmingham and whose transfer fee will not be spent to buy a replacement, has told the fans to stop getting too involved with protesting about our owners, who have made the club with the biggest revenue in the world to a club with the most debt in the world.
Sir Alex Ferguson has today claimed that he likes to see our protests but for some reason Foster has opted to get involved and take the opposite stance.
“There’s maybe too much made of it by the supporters,” Foster said. “They are obviously passionate about Manchester United, but sometimes they need to focus on supporting the club a bit more than getting carried away with the technicalities of who’s in charge. Personally, I think the Glazers have always put money in to Manchester United to buy players when needed. Having said that, I don’t think the manager needs to buy too many players there anyway. They have a lot of good youngsters coming through the ranks.”
How do I put this nicely? Shut the fuck up Ben and concentrate on finishing in the top half eh? And we’ll concentrate on trying to stop our club being swallowed by a black hole of debt.
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What an idiot
I reckon he’ll be good at Birmingham. He let the pressure get to him here. He should shut the fuck up though.
Jaysus and to think the Club dont even get the 6million pounds for him,sad indeed.
Dearly departed.
Thats none of your concern now Ben.
It’s a matter of opinion. Evra didn’t mind the Green and Gold protest, Ben does. Good luck at Brum.
ben was asked a question which he answered with HIS opinion! really cannot see the problem!! good luck at brum Ben
Why exactly isn’t Ben allowed to express his opinion? Its an opinion after all. Just like MUST and Scott have opinions.
He’s allowed his opinion, yes…… our opinion is he should shut the fuck up, its our club, our concerns, we paid his wage and the club will be better off without the glazers raping us…
@arjic
Agree completely. He’s been attacked by every blog around for being honest. He should lie to make us happy? I don’t think so…
Who’s attacking him? a bit ott.
no fuck you scott, hes entitled to his opinion and i wouldn’t be surprised if alot og the players felt like this too. The protests are starting to wear thin, its been obvious this week that the red kinghts are just alot of hot air and even Sir Alex says that the best thing tio do now is support the club.
Ben, thanks for warming the bench but shut your mouth over what no longer concerns you.
@ welbz19, arijc and mark.. So when Gill says we’re in safe hands with the glazers, do you respect his opinion?
its a shame Ben Foster didnt make it here at united.. i really thought he had the talent and i wish him well at Birmingham.. oh yeah he has a right to his own opinions guys!
@mauly
It is my personal opinion that, unless you are a member of the squad, you have no idea what the players are going through in the middle of this power struggle. Ben expressed an opinion that gives us an insight into what some of the players might be going through. You may not agree with his opinion. Learn to accept that there are opinions that differ from your perceived reality.
@ willie
He has been equated to Tevez on other blogs, warned about getting a Tevez-like reception on his return, labelled “brainless” and what not. I think thats grossly unfair. I wouldn’t want this blog to resort to that kind of senseless name calling also.
Mo, what a tool u r. Seriously. The whole point is to rid United of the people who don’t care about the club. So what if the players are tired of the protest, fuck them. This is our club. Players come and go but we as fans are here for life. Our hard earned money should stay in the club n not pay off some fat cat loan interest
@Mo, excuse me why are you adressing the Moderator like that?
he’s only repeating what sir alex said a day ago when alot of people on here were calling sir alex a liar and puppet.if you just look at it from a football stand point they’ve been good owners and i’ll repeat i don’t think sir alex is a puppet for anyone and is telling the truth,i’ve also said in the past i don’t like the protests been taken to the field.i’m a man utd supporter first and the glaziers haven’t made a difference to the quaility of the team utd have been very sucessful since the takeover.its only in the minds of some fans who think we should be shelling out 50 to 60 mill for rentboys which utd have never done.you can slag the glaziers as much as you want but they’ve let sir alex have a free reign to run things his way and have never refused him funds when asked for,not every owner is going to be like that.
as long as i know it…this blog belong to Scott…so if he want to cursing and criticized it his fuckin right to do so…even i also dont always agreed with Scott,every people entitled to his own opinion and this is his blog…so whatever he want to do its his right to do so…
if u r not happy go make your own blog…
mauly says:
He’s allowed his opinion, yes…… our opinion is he should shut the fuck up, its our club, our concerns, we paid his wage and the club will be better off without the glazers raping us…
NO not our opinion SOME of our opinions. Hes entitled to answer a question, your entitled to slag him off for it and then I’ll rebuff by calling you an uneducated cunt. The glazers aren’t raping us, if your arse is sore don’t blame anyone at OT but try and organise your Friday nights a little better and don’t leave your fucking drink unattended, moron. Just my opinion.
in my pinon he’s a wonderful shot stopper
but in my opinion he can go fuck himself tring to say im over reacting to figures that were frighting reading to me.
he has his opinion, that’s fair enough but i guess it just shows far removed some players are from the real fans. He shouldn’t comment unless he knows the full extend of the situation.
A number of players have said that the protest haven’t effected them on the pitch, maybe it’s a bit more distracting when you are sat in the stand.
Some of the stuff on here can generate good debate but saying Ben Foster should shut the fuck up is a bit shallow, he’s allowed his opinion and he was asked the question, now he may be incorrect but thats what opinions are.
It may be Scots website but its not scot that makes it what it is and its not Scott that is allowed the prevailing attitude because its not a soviet republic its a mancunian one.
@ StretfordEnd Ole
Glad you made it clear that only the “real” fans can understand the financial statements, analyze the business plan and understand the true extent of the club’s problems.
This thread has really opened my eyes that some United supporters here are a bunch of Twats, starting with GoatinaUnitedShirt, hey but thats okay – just my opinion… Fucking joker, Fuck off back to the Megastore and feed the glazers some more, they need more than the £500 million they’ve already raped from my club.
GoatinaUnitedShirt says: The glazers aren’t raping us???? If your a member of MUST I suggest you delete your membership because what BF said is the opposite of what 150k+ think.
Mauly
– not really seeing the gill comparsion, did Ben ever make anti glazer comments before the club was bought by them, and then as soon as they were his employers go against everything he said and consistently brown nose them in public?!? NO
So to be honest Gill can go fuck himself and good look to Ben!!
*luck
@Welbz sure it was a general comparison, just wanted show there can be anger to opinion…. Ben should know better and shouldn’t of said anything, he surely knew what he said was going to upset alot of people…. Just shows that players are so far away from the supporters..
Have sympathy for ben, good luck at brum…
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May 22, 2010 at 17:32
welbz19 says:
ben was asked a question which he answered with HIS opinion! really cannot see the problem!! good luck at brum Ben
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May 22, 2010 at 17:35
arijc says:
Why exactly isn’t Ben allowed to express his opinion? Its an opinion after all. Just like MUST and Scott have opinions.
AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!
@mauly I don’t agree with ben but also don’t agree with the way Scott is saying shut the fuck up because he isn’t saying what he or most reds wants to hear!
The guy is one of the players this season, and if he says the protest is having some effect on players, surely there must be an ounce of truth in it. Like it or not, MUST have successfully turned some “fans” even against Sir Alex, how proud are they with that?
Yes our debt is bad, the whole world knows it. The solution is getting a new owner who would wipe out our debt, but there is only a handful of people in the world who could do that. Getting rid of the Glaziers will not solve the problem. Instead of protesting against the rulers, why not spend some effort trying to find a new owner, because the RK are clearly not the solution.
What did people expect him to say, United fans should worry about the glazers and not renew their season tickets? Anyway, maybe he’s speaking on behalf of the Utd players. The G&G protests only started around January, and his run in the team was from September until November, so the protests couldn’t have affected him.
In my opinion some of the commenters on this blog are cunts that whine endlessly about the Glazers and attack anyone who doesn’t share their narrow opinion. So why don’t you SHUT THE FUCK UP as everyone else (the 99.6 % of United fans worldwide) is growing tired of your green and gold bullshit.
@ arijc
When I say real fans I mean the people who are paying their hard earnt money to buy tickets to watch a game rather than the players who are paid a huge amount of money to kick a football about! I’d rather debate the issues with a fan, even if they love the Glazers than listen to a player who isn’t living in the real world.
Giggs, Neville, Evra and Sir Alex have all come out saying that they understand the feelings of the fans and understand our right to protest, Foster clearly thinks it’s not important what the fans think or feel. I would have thought that given Ben’s history and how he got into the game he’d understand the frustrations of the fans a bit more?
@StretfordEnd Ole
Foster didn’t really say he didn’t understand the concerns. He just said that maybe too much is made of it, something I myself agree with.
Also is Fosters opinion unique among the players? Yes you can point to SAF, Evra, Nev and Giggs comments BUT the thing the difference between them and Foster is they are at the club. Would saying it could be a bit distracting potentially alienate them with the fans, many of those responding here seem to think so and the stick Gill got for saying that a Boycott of the Milan game was a ridicous idea hardly went down well.
Foster was privy to behind the scenes and we aren’t so the true feelings can’t be known for certain. If anyone else leaves this summer will be interesting to see if they then share Fosters feelings
Mo – Fuck you? Now that’s not a very nice way to speak to someone is it.
And you’re wrong. Ferguson said he likes to see us protesting.
Hi Scott – as you said, its not a nice thing to say. But then didnt you begin all this playground arguing? … Ben Foster’s been contracted to United for the past five years, granted he didnt prove himself to be the player we needed, BUT he deserves more than a “fuck off”.
Good luck to Ben.
@Scott the Red
You are simplfying what SAF said a little when you say he likes to see protests
@ Scott the red i got a helluva bugger for detail, its just I like to learn wink. I saw that jerk typed that crap.Total disrespect in my humble opinion
Biggest Red you keep giving us the links and topics.
Peter – I don’t think it’s quite accurate that you would describe me saying a former United player should “shut the fuck up” is the same as saying “fuck off” or “fuck you” to someone personally on a blog. I don’t see how you think I can have a playground argument with a professional footballer…?
Wakey – Sounds pretty simple to me. “I like to see the yellow and green scarves. The fans love their club and they are worried.”
I want to here from Mo, or am a bit sick
to be honest scott by the time you get to the bottom of this thread, whether you said “shut the fuck up”, “fuck off” “fuck you” becomes a blur… also saying fuck you to somebody on a blog, and writing a blog to say fuck you sounds like a similiar thing, both are personal.
Thats enough “fucks” for one day, it is a sunday morning after all!.. nothing against you Scott, I just dont like this type of post.
Back to the reason I commented. Good Luck to Ben.
Peter – And I don’t like people who have nothing to do with the club telling the fans what they should and shouldn’t do. Our own manager is telling us that the protests are fine, so who does Foster think he is to tell us that we should stop?
from what you wrote in the post it doesnt look like he’s asked the fans to stop protesting… just to focus ‘abit more’ on supporting the team.
Who does he think he is? I think Foster thinks of himself as a former united player, of less than a few days, which makes him qualified to speak about the club… Im sure he was asked a question, which could have been anything, and he gave an honest answer. e.g Should the fans be worried about the glazers not providing funds for the club to keep building?… “There’s maybe too much made of it by the supporters”. Or as you are basing the story on “should the fans stop protesting?” … “There’s maybe too much made of it by the supporters”.
@Scott the Red
“Wakey – Sounds pretty simple to me. “I like to see the yellow and green scarves. The fans love their club and they are worried.””
Thats hardly him saying he likes the protest. There are some benefits to it all, it brings back a links to the past and it can lead to a better atmopshere but declaring him as being in favour from that seems to be pushing it. I’m sure he would much prefer those same benefits without the protest
“And I don’t like people who have nothing to do with the club telling the fans what they should and shouldn’t do. Our own manager is telling us that the protests are fine, so who does Foster think he is to tell us that we should stop?”
Perhaps because he was privy to the other players true thoughts on the situation so may actually have a clue? Also because now he doesn’t have to really worry about keeping the fans onside as those still at the club have to.
As I have said above there are benefits but it must be a little uncomfortable when it comes to the Anti Glazer chanting and the whole disturbance when oversized flags are removed.
It also must make every aspect of the day much harder as the players all have to be on guard even more as if they slip up like Ferie did at United Relief a shitstorm is going to blow up when the press and blogs start reporting how they have openly supported kicking out their paymaster
@redscot
Stop kissin Scot’s ass, its getting embarrassing
@Scott
You’re a role model to the countless United fans who read your blog and you also have enough influence in the blogosphere to have your opinions read by non united fans who might see this as a “Oh never slag a United player off but the second he’s out the door, fuck him, he has no right to talk”.
Frankly, that isn’t what you drill into us reading your blog time and again so im surprised you reacted to Ben’s non offensive comments with a shut the fuck up. Must have been a weak moment.
My question
Scott says Ben has nothing to do with the club now, so he should shut up. So does anyone here have anything to do with the club except that you follow it?
So by Scott’s logic, we should all shut up?
I’m taking back my wishes of him to do well. What an idiot.
“focus on supporting the club” – what a jackass. The club is alot more than just the players on the pitch. Idiot.
Scott, im just fed up of people turning on sir alex and united players, everything hes done in the past 24 years has been to the benfit of the club. The day that Sir Alex says that United are doomed publicly, is the day i will fully embrace the must campaign. But frankly who would you rather believe Sir Alex and Sir Bobby or a bunch of businessmen who are suddenly United fans ( how much do we really know about the red kinghts apart from one of them was invilved with the collaspe of goldman sachs). So excuse me for being a little cynical. Any united fan who turns on Sir Alex should fuck off and support City. Not in modern day football has one man dedicated himslef so much to one club in a mangement role than Sir Ales has done.
Marq – Don’t be so pedantic. Ben Foster doesn’t have to pay more and more for a season ticket every single year, Ben Foster hasn’t been priced out of supporting his football club in the ground, Ben Foster doesn’t see the money he spends watching his team go in to a black hole of debt and Ben Foster doesn’t have to worry about the future of his club, so I don’t believe he’s in any position to tell our fans what we should or shouldn’t do. If a United fan who gets ripped off year upon year has a negative opinion on the protests, then fair do’s, but what United fans do has nothing to do with Foster and for him to so patronisingly claim we are “making too much” of the fact we’re almost £1billion in debt is an insult and I do believe he should shut the fuck up. What does he know about having the bottle to face these situations like our fans are? He certainly doesn’t have the bottle to be a United player.
Mo – You said “fuck you” to me because you thought I was turning on Sir Alex and United players? Where on earth did you get that idea from?
eat my shorts ben!
@ Scott
Its his opinion. If I don’t agree with yours, do I come on this forum and tell you to shut the fuck up. I don’t. Thats because you are entitled to your opinion, even though it might be misguided. Don’t bring in his ability to play for United into this. Its not even an issue in this discussion. And don’t use the excuse that this your personal blog and so you can write as you please. Its in the public domain and its open to rebuke.
Arijc – I didn’t go up to man in the street and tell him to shut the fuck up, I said it on a blog. I highly doubt Ben Foster is reading, but if he is, I hope he thinks twice about patronising our fans… fans who cheered his name on when it was read out every week, despite the fact that some of his fucks up cost us the league this season.
So, if you told me to shut the fuck up, that would be rude, because you are talking to me. I’m hardly engaging in a conversation with Ben Foster here.
I’m not denying Foster an opinion, I’m merely reacting to him patronising us. We’re paying about £1000 a year these days to follow our team because of the Glazers. Who the fuck does he think he is telling us we’re “making too much of it”. This blog didn’t get on Ben Foster’s case (feel free to browse through the articles on him by clicking his name) when he was doing his best Roy Carroll impressions, but I will get on his case when he talks down to our fans, like he thinks he is in any position to comment on us or what we’re doing.
Oh listen to you lot. Why does everybody have to get so enraged over somebodies opinion?
Every person on this Earth is allowed their opinion. SAF will never say that the protests are wrong because it goes against his Militant Labour beliefs. He actually Lied to His Union members and took them out on Strike so don’t ever expect SAF to say anything against it.
Chill and wish Ben Foster all the Best he was asked the question and he gave his opinion.
Scott
My point is what you’ve written is rude and disrespectful irrespective of whether it is written in a blog or said straight to his face. I just think you are over reacting to his comments. You have a loyal community of readers reading your blog, many of whom might form their opinions based on yours. Thus, I expect more responsible comments from your side.
arijc – And I believe what Foster said is disrespectful. I pay around a grand a year to watch United play because of the Glazers so if someone is going to patronise me about being pissed off about this, then I am entitled to respond as I wish. If other people agree with me, then brilliant. I can’t imagine there are many people who spend so much money watching United play who have much respect for Foster saying what he has here. To belittle the fans of a club who supported him regardless of his title-costing fuck ups is shameful and he could be told a lot worse than to “shut the fuck up” on a blog.
im a knob and i apologise for comments
So Ben as well as being overall a shit goal-keeper* you’re also a bit thick?
* being a shot stopper does not make you a great goalkeeper, if you can’t i) command the box ii) deal with crosses iii) kick a football for toffee.
Enjoy your time in ‘England’s second city’ (ho ho!) – as a manc exiled in Birmingham for work reasons I can tell you it’s a fucking dump, the birds are munters and your average Brummie about as charming as shit on your pillow. Chin up!
Fair play to Ben Foster for voicing an honest opinion.
This green and gold nonsense should stop now.
How these people can on one hand claim to have these views about the glazers and on the other populate the megastore on a saturday afternoon is beyond me. It is the most laughable and appauling contradiction but no one bats an eyelid about it.
Time to get back to just being football supporters and leave the politics elsewhere. That is more damaging to the club that anything the Glazers will do. I mean I don’t mind politics if it yields a quick outcome. Five years later the glazers are still here. Give my head peace.
Brett – The green and gold protests went on for four months though, not five years, and in those four months have done more good than anything over the five years as a whole. Prices have frozen for starters, which is a direct result of the Glazers starting to realise that things are changing (don’t forget we were the only club to raise prices last season and they didn’t give a shit what the fans thought then). We have drawn attention from our first serious buyers and whether this comes to fruition or not, it is progress. We have drawn more media attention to our feelings on the Glazers and this has gone global. You’ll have fans in Asia or Scandinavia thinking twice about buying a Manchester United lunch box or bed spread now.
Time to get back to being football supporters? Well, I want to still be watching my team live when I’m in my 80s, my kids and grandkids alongside me. That is what football support is to me and that will not be a possibility if the Glazers stay for the duration, unless I’m watching my team play in League 2, which I’d obviously rather wasn’t the case.
Scott
The truth is the freeze is more adequately explained by a pure business decision based on supply and demand. The glazers have increased prices bit by bit for several seasons. This has unfortunately priced some people out. The waiting list has gone down gradually. It is now at a threshold where the price is just right. There is no more waiting list but enough buyers to take up the full number of tickets.
Ignoring G&G for a second- last season we knew the waiting list was gone. Would you have made the decision to put prices up this year?
In the end Scott the Glazers have not done anything bad enough yet to invoke a more militant type of protest which in my view renders the protest pointless and people should just get behind the team. I don’t understand why people so often responsible for a poor atmosphere at old trafford can be expected to protest meaningfully anyway. It’s a bit of a bandwagon and a sham. A gutless protest with people wearing the protest colours in the commercial mecca of the club- the megastore.
I know I am part of the argument which divides but I’d rather it went away completely and instead the fans could focus purely on football matters.
brett1985 – For one of the first times pal I have to agree with your last two posts. Spot on.
@brett1985 – spot on mate, I must admit to having a green & gold scarf but will next season go back to my red & white scarf, as the more I read about the red Knights the more I would prefer a Glazer stay!
Also will leave the boring politics and stuff to the suits and I will be concentrating on the football which sadly wasnt always the case last season.