Darron Gibson has certainly started to make a bit of a name for himself, getting his name on the scoresheet more often than not when he’s given an opportunity to play. The best of these was clearly his blinding shot against Peterborough in the pre-season, but his FA Cup goals against Southampton and Derby shouldn’t be scoffed at.
However, I’m not entirely sure the lad has got ‘it’, whatever ‘it’ is. He just doesn’t really look like a United player. He’s not some kid, he’s only a couple of years younger than Rooney, but he hasn’t seemed to develop at the rate some would like. Rodrigo Possebon has got it, no doubt, the da Silvas have got it, but there seems something kind of clumsy and slow about Gibson.
Some people have started to hail him as the next Roy Keane, which I think is pushing it. At Gibson’s age, Keane was just about to sign for United after receiving praise from all areas for his performances at Forest.
I have been told to give Gibson time with plenty of reds insisting he needs time. What I think is irrelevant though because if Fergie fancies him as someone to make it, he will keep playing him until he is good enough.
Thinking of this got me thinking of Darren Fletcher, a player I have slated for years until the past couple of seasons. Ferguson was determined to have his potential realised, so played him time and again, even when his form was dreadful. Despite being tipped as a big thing as a youngster, I didn’t think he had ‘it’ and Fergie drove me mad.
So I guess the jury is still out on Gibson, with Fletcher acting as his saving grace for now. But put it this way, I won’t be overly surprised if Gibson is sold for £2 million to a Championship side within the next couple of seasons!
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I felt exactly the same way and probably still do… but his performances against Southampton and more so Derby on Sunday have suprised me, i was really impressed with him and those were the first signs of him having `it`
long way to go yet though but at the minute he’s still a valuable squad player when were in for four trophies.
Even if he’s not the new Keane, we can’t buy 20 players for £20-30 mil. each. He might not become a star we sometimes teams have too many starts anyway – just remember the galactico Real and how they screwed up.
Has Possebon got it no doubt?
I think Gibson has the ability but not necessarily the confidence to go with it. It will be a massive boost for him to win the Carling Cup. I think we should reserve our judgement till after that final.
Personally think thats pretty harsh. Gibson has it without a doubt, I can see him squeezing Fletcher out of the squad if he isnt careful. I would actually rate DG higher than Possebon (who has looked lacking in the games I have seen him in this season). With Welbeck and Evans all being the same kind of age as DG, I really think all three will be in the United camp for years.
Gibson may not be ready for the CL or tough EPL games – but he is easily good enough to play in FA Cup and Carling Cup while getting his experience notched up.
The squad at the moment is good enough to take on all ahead of it this season – with sensibile rotation (not the Rafa kind) that SAF seems to be doing at the moment everyone plays a key role.
Thats what made 99 so special was that it was really 1st XI winning over and over again with a very few other players upto the same calibre. The 2008/09 squad is of a higher quality over all and a few changes gives players a rest while (hopefully) sill producing the wins
after watching on sunday i think gibsons goal against southampton gave him the idea to shoot at every moment….. who am i to slate him… give him a little time..
The game has changed somewhat since the days when a young Roy Keane joined us from Forest. So much so that two seasons after he joined we won the premiership with 6 young lads in the first 11, I don’t need to mention they by name as they are famous with one and all. Nowadays not even SAF would dream of that as it’s not on any more.
What I’m trying to get to is that from what I’ve seen Darron Gibson is a better player then Nicky Butt or Phil Neville ever were but they were big part of the squad then. Then we had Cantona as our talisman + our babes whilst today we are spoilt for choice with Ronaldo, Rooney, Carrick, Rio, Berbatov, Tevez, Vidic, Evra and not far behind there are Nani, Anderson + Giggs, Scholes, Gary, Wes Brown and John Oshea.
The kids have a much tougher time to break in now then ever before.
I like what I see in Gibson. Powerfull, intelegent and a Red through & through.
Today was one of the first time ever he played in his natural position – central midfield. He’s been awful when he played on wide right I have to admit. But against Derby where he played central I thought he was top class, he should be better than Michael Carrick in a few years believe me. As Solskjaer said, ‘he’s like a ferrari in a Garage’. But that ferrari only comes out sometimes. Is he the nest Keane? Why not
Has Gibson got it? I am not really sure, I agree when I have seen him as a youngster playing for the youth sides I always thought he was slow and clumsy. Watching him playing I would cringe when he was passed the ball in tight situations thinking we’ve lost the ball there. But no he’d drop the shoulder, faint or pop off a 1st time pass that I didnt see coming, thinking how the F— did yoiu see that one. But what he lacks in pace he makes up for in brains. He is not a Keane in the same way Carrick is not a Keane. Gibson is more like Carrick and I for one do think he has a chance. Possebon is not a bad player, but I don’t know if he has it. Think a few people say he has it because he is Brazlian.
Naa too harsh on the lad. Box to box,vision and 2 great feet. At the moment Possebon’s major strength over gibbo is his continental name and his back pass!
I hear what you’re saying about Fletcher. I watched him from when he was 16 in the youth team and really couldn’t see why he was rated so highly. He has certainly improved over the last year and I no longer cringe when I see his name on the teamsheet (I still do with JOS), however, is he a United player? I haven’t seen as much of Gibson but he’s certainly impressed me more than Fletcher did in his first few games. I think time will tell but I think he’s a better class than Nicky Butt.
Jury is still out, indeed. At times he does some immature things with the ball but at other times he does some very smart things. I say give him some more time, maybe next year he’ll get even more games. It says something that he’s played in almost all of our league cup games, and several FA Cup games, and we’ve managed to get so deep in those competitions. I’d be very happy if in two years time we come to expect the names Gibson and Welbeck on the team sheet, along with Rafa and Fabio (which is almost a given already!).
Possebön iz way better then gibson..Gibson iz clumsy and so damn slow and he runs like a pengiun,on the other hand possebon neva gives the ball away, stylish ,great control, has a great shot, creats space for himself well so basicly he iz a young brazilian Pirlo..Lastley a CMF needs game time to build confidence and spread the ball in a more foward and direct manner in which case gibson gets more and still plays lyk his got duck feet
Gibson has impressed me in every game. Even when he played out wide, I thought he had a decent game, Give the lad some time, he will show everybody what he is all about. It can’t be that bad having Darron Gibson as an 8th choice centre midfielder, can it?!
Gibson is nothing special. Ando is far better than him year 2 years younger.
He’ll be on the fringes for a few more seasons then we’ll offload him. The soon the better to be honest. Gibbons more like
i wasn’t too sure to begin with, having watched him play for Ireland too. But i’m more hopefull for the lad now, at least he’s not afraid to have a pop at goal! Time will tell, but i don’t think the comparison with Keane is fair, he’s a different sort of player. If Ole reckons he’s a Ferrari thats got to count for something aswell as Fergies’ confidence in him
i dont see how possebon has it, and gibson does not………..
He’s a handy squad player at the moment. Can’t remember who he played against on the right side of midfield of a 4-3-3 and he was awful. Passed the ball straight to the opposite team for them to run on and score. I’ve never rated him but he got man of the match on sunday didn’t he? Can’t complain about that.
I think he could be a good squad player, nothing more…
scott I think he can make it, he is a different type of player to keane in the mould of carrick if you are going to compare gibson to anyone it is michel carrick not keano
he’s not even the next possebon
the difference for me between possebon and gibson is maturity, gibson tries to impress too much, shooting at almost every occasion, while possebon tries to keep possession and looks to play others out of trouble, its not gonna catch anybody’s eye but that for me is a sign of a composed player. though i agree possebon after the injury hasnt been the same.
For all those who are raving about Possebon while slating Gibbo can u tell me a single moment of genius from Possebon for you to rate him so highly…or just being a brazillian is enough….tell me a moment where he picked out a 40 yarder cross field pass like scholsey….i saw Gibbo do that quite a few times yesterday..with success….Yes Possebon has got that canny ability of not losing the ball…but then again there’s precarious liitle he does with it to inspire our forward play….sideways passing all the time with a little composure doesnt automatically make you a great midfielder…Gibbo has got a great shot on him…the lad can handle the physical situations with ease and can work box to box all day…from what I saw of him i certainly agree that if he keeps on going this way he can surely dump fletch out of the team..I hope both Gibbo and Possebaon make it big…but slating the lad and not giving him credit for the way he played is not fair…the same way as showering praises on Possebon when he hasnt YET done anything close to Gibbo…I rest my case….Cheers!!!
I do think Gibson is a United player. I dont share the same opinion about Rodrigo Possebon, I certainly dont think he has got that thing that sparkles.
Gibson on the other hand has shown determination, he is confident, he doesnt think twice about using his powerful shot. He-s also a strong character on the pitch, like the ones we like.
I think he must be given the opportunity, and give him a strong probabily of success.
I really hope Rodrigo shows what he has too, but so far I havent been a bit impressed. Da Silva twins are at another level, they look first team already.
Lets give some time to Gibson to develop. I really think is a United player.
Javon interesting comment there because i see it the other way round for me Possebon impresses me more than Gibson expect the other day vs Derby where Gibson looked top class.
I’ve alot of faith in our youth system though i hope they both make it along with a handfull of others from our youth system who look like they can make it, the future is looking good.
Gibson is nothing like Keane in my opinion though, he’s hardly going to be squaring up to players snapping ligaments and terrorising patrick vieria, Oh i miss Keano.
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Oh and anybody know when Anderson is expected to be back?
In my opinion, He’s the next Fletch, not Keane.
i really dont understand why people in here are claiming that possebon is much better than gibson…
Gibson has been used most of the times on the wide right which is not his natural position… only during the derby match he played his favoured position and looked very good…
i agree in the matches before he did try to shoot alot and impress by gettin a goal but that would have been his only saving grace otherwise like here everyone else would be slating how shit he is …
i am really happy for him… i am not sayin he will certainly make it in our team but he has time to impress and if and when fergie believes he is not good enough to challenge for a spot in the team(bench) he will be moved on like many others before him..
and like someone before just mentioned what has possebon done of note in the first team other than just looking composed?? i am not saying he is a bad player but he has been deployed in the centre midfield position always.. if he was to start a match out wide even he would struggle and might not even put in as good a shift gibson has done so far..
in the end both are our players and i believe all of us will be happy to see both do well …
why are all midfielders must be compare to keane? Not all players are keane. I’m sick and tired of hearing keane here keane that. Gibson he more like carrick -type player with better speed and dribble. I’m sure he will be better than nicky butt or maybe like fletcher.
Still nice to have a player like Gibson waiting in the wings, he has shown he can slot in nicely without looking out of place and stick the ball in the net. I want Possebon to get more chances to be honest. Im from NI so I really should have a problem with gibson for ditching us but lets be honest
UNITED > COUNTRY
can’t wait til Anderson comes back he is such a talent. he sh!ts on fabregas
He has certainly shown signs of class and I think he can make it as a decent United player. Lets not forget he is only turned 21 and its no good comparing him to Rooney at similar age as he is a one off. Given time and more experience in my opinion he will come good, not in the Keano mould at all though.
Gibbson is class – and could actually fill keanos beats quite comfortably
Ability wise who knows maybe in a few years he will be as good as the likes of Keano we’ll have to wait and see but I dont see why people need to be compared to former players Gibson personality wise is nothing like Keane there is never going to be ‘the next keane’ or ‘the next Best’ there will be plenty of great players at United in the future but the players that are the best dont like to be compared to others.
What the fuck has Possebon done? All I hear is how he’s very Scholes like and has style. Everytime I’ve seen him he has lost the ball on many occasions. I love the way that the guy who said Gibson was shite had the username Anderson8. Yet another person who would take wasteful flair e.g. Nani over somebody who gets the job done e.g. Park
The papers feel the need to compare
past and present players and being
an Irish midfielder the obvious link
was Roy Keane. I looked through
the papers today and the only thing
they seem to have in common is
that they are both midfielders,
both played for Eire and they
debuted for United at similar ages.
Playing style didn’t get a mention
which, once apon a time, was the
only worthy comparison between
players.
If Magnus Ekkrem makes it he’ll be
compared to Ole, if we, for some
obscure reason, buy Kenwyne Jones
he’ll be compared to Dwight Yorke,
Rooney and Tevez have been compared
to Yorke and Cole, Berbatov to
Cantona, Tosic to Beckham, any
flop to Veron, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba
and Forlan, there’s a long list of players
that have been compared to George Best
over the years and the list goes on and on,
I just don’t pay that much attention.
With regards to Gibson, he looks encouraging
but I would certainly place more trust
in Rodrigo.
for “rrooney_thebest”comment
check out the reserves from the last 2 seasons
first season his name was rodrigo
and he is a star
I think both Gibson & Possebon both are at the same level now. Slightly different in style, with Gibson the typical British style of pass & run while Possebon holds his ground more in a more continental approach. It is unfair to say who is better at the moment, as reserve games are hardly a benchmark. If it was, we would have a production line of galacticos! Someone got it spot on, in my opinion, that as of now, they are both the next Fletchers rather than Keane/Carrick. Lets not slate any of them, and cheer them on and hope they grow. Just remember, Carrick was no where when he was at their age
Most of us thought Davy Jones had ‘it’ and he ended up being sold on.
You never know with SAF!
GIbson is similar to Carrick, imo. I think he’s a good player. Doesn’t always seem to be able to hit top form though, but when he does i reckon he looks pretty decent. Seems to have come on a bit this season though.
Possebon is quality. Am surprised to hear so many negative comments. He definitely has “it”.
All you possebon haters, possebon plays way less games then gibson some of u idiots expect possebon to dominate a game when he comes in on 20 minutes and told by the manager to hold on to possesion and ride down the clock, wat happned when he actualy started against Middlsbroug yea wat happned when he started with our super talent Anderson he dominated until he was assaulted by pogatits
Nobody is hating anyone here, we’re all United supporters, so lets support both Gibson & Possenbon. Best thing that can happen is both of them grow to be great players! Thou I wouldnt really mind if they became the next Fletchers, every team needs these kind of players, quiet, loyal and gets on with their business without all the complaints. Just ask Liverpool (read Agger), Chelsea (read Drogba) & Arsenal (read Adebayor). I’m sure all managers would love to have someone like Fletcher or O’Shea. Bench players who are not going to set the world alight, but gets the job done somehow. We dun need world class players in all the positions, what is going to win us the lot is our strength in depth, period
Why do people slate Butt to praise either Gibson or Possebon? I understand the need for comparison. But Nicky Butt was a very versatile player. He can play holding or box-to-box style. He made it in to the best XI during the 2002 WC. The current crop of youngsters need playing time to boost their confidence. I am sure in two years time we will see them quite often in the first team.
In my oppinion, Gibson will reach a similar level to Fletcher but hopefully will score a few more goals. So in that respect, definatley a United squad player.
As for Possebon, we need to remember he is a couple of years younger than Gibson. The injury he suffered certainly knocked his confidence, but that will improve over time. Possebon certainly has potential, but I think its too early to judge whether or not he ‘has’ it.
Would kinda agree with you Scott. Although early doors – plus play him in his position.
How would you all feel DG following in DF’s footsteps – would you allow him the same amount of time Fergie has shown in DF?
…for me, no.
(for tonight) come on Utd!