Rooney was charged with using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” in our 4-2 victory over West Ham. The referee didn’t see it or hear it, but was forced by the FA to include it in his match report, claiming that if he had heard Rooney swearing, he would have sent him off.
Surely Martin Atkinson heard Pepe Reina swearing on the very same day in their defeat to West Brom? If not, why didn’t the FA get him to include it in his match report, and tell him to say if he had heard it, he would have sent him off.
People claim there is a difference between directly swearing in to a camera, like Rooney did, and swearing at an official. To be honest, if I bought in to this Respect campaign, I’d say swearing at an official, like Reina did, does more damage to their battle than swearing at a camera, like Rooney did. Regardless, the FA rule which Rooney broke and was banned for two games for, makes no mention of directly or indirectly swearing at a camera.
Obviously Reina didn’t get banned for two games but RoM obviously will be writing to the FA to complain every time a player is seen/heard swearing during a game on the telly and encourage you do to the same. In the desperation to ban Rooney, they really didn’t consider the can of worms they were opening. The precedent has been sent. EVERY player who is guilty of “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” during a game and audible/visible to the viewer at home or in the ground, whether the referee heard it or not, should be banned for two games. Rooney didn’t break any rule about swearing in to a TV camera, because no such rule exists. He broke a rule regarding swearing full stop. Every other player who breaks this rule, directly in to a TV camera or otherwise, should miss two games.
Oh, and I’m really fucking offended by bad language, actually.
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first but fuck it..
pure double standard cunts..
what? fucking what?
first but fuck it..
FA the double standard cunts..
what? fucking what?
Fa trying to stay consistent
It’s fucking sick the language these motherfucking cunts used. Any dickhead kid will start speaking like this all the fucking time, causing the whole bunch of fuckpigs that we call society to fucking collapse. Twunts.
Come on Scott, don’t be naive. Reina doesn’t play for United mate.
willie- Hey mate. Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Reina will probably be applauded for his grasp of English instead of them throwing the book at him.
I will write to FA too. What is the address to write to?
Also, Martin Atkinson is a cunt.
respect campaign ha? u motherfuckers should be charged with crime for altering the match report in the name of respect campaign..
i wish to god, FA should be eaten the UK media but it wont happen coz all of them are ABU cunts..
have anyone getting the feeling of media being a lil smooth on us since yesterday in the wake what UTD could achieve this season?
bloody fucking glory hunters..we dont need you..we have Sir Alex the Godfather to fuck you twats..
and that fucking cop Payne, go fuck ur wife and lock her up in cell for saying fuck fuck..u son of a bitch..
sorry guys, i m too pissed with the way we have been treated..i feel gutted and humiliated but this galvanises us..
bring it on..
even the world war wont stop us from title 19.. the histiory will be made and the cunts will cry..
win FA cup and shove the trophy in their arse..
BEL19VE
@ Chep13..
dont bother..the letters will go to Roman the pay roll cunt
The F.A is a communist body. PERIOD. When you have a russian big daddy paying all the bills and a bitter scumbag at the head of the F.A you know we are in a communist period in British football.
It would obviously be great if every weekend people can e-mail me/Tweet me to let me know about any swearing they’ve seen/heard. I’ll put it up on the blog every week with an e-mail address for anyone who is interested to write to.
Respect? You’ve got to earn it. Manchester United have won 18 League titles, 11 FA Cups, 3 European Cups and 4 League Cups. Manchester United deserve respect, but do we get any from the FA? Do we fuck.
The FA are now virtually open in their bias against the greatest (and most supported) football club in the land, pissing off United fans around the world. Do the FA deserve respect? Do they fuck.
theboogeyman – Ok pal. Yeah mate, double standards, as always. Another thing about this incident, It was a clear penalty, so I don’t know why Reina was so upset.
I swear to tell the truth.
After about 56mins of the CL game on Wednesday you could hear a Chelsea player (think it was Ashley Cole) clearly saying the f word to the linesman when a throw was given to United. Heard it very clearly, live on ITV – no comment from anyone of course.
Fuck em. Wouldn’t it be sweet if we thump fulham and city.
Give the FA the metophorical 2 fingers.
The way everyone talks about what Rooneys done you thought he’d looked at the ref and the TV camers and went “oi fucking cunts.
Blimey.
What fucking What!
They just started a war they cant win, game on u cunts,
What! Fuckin What!!
Rory’s doing well, willierednut, you must be pleased!
Scott- How do I write to the FA about this? It says I need a FAN, whatever the fuck that is.
One rule for United,One rule for others.One Trophy for United,None for Others
I would also love to send a letter to them. Maybe you could make a post on how to do it?
One rule for United,One rule for others.One Trophy for United,None for Others
smartalex – He’s doing brilliant mate. Augusta is a beast of a course, but he’s playing some great stuff.
Ok go to the FA website, you will need to register your details and then you will be allowed to use thier contact page. If I can offer a bit of advice don’t mention Rooney just report the incident in this case Reina, I’m doing it right now
What we need is a lawyer on the case of the FA
Done through legal channels we can easily show how the FA’s respect campaign is full of shit and how the FA is using MUFC as an example for no apparent reason other than to be made an example of.
What we now is the end of the FA.
Times up for the old boys club. They have had their fill and lined their pockets. I’m hoping they go bust.
what are the chances of reina signing for united this season, and THEN getting punished retrospectively?
Was talking today at work wiv a fellow red can anyone remember if micah Richards got banned for when he swore on a live tv camera after a abu cup game in which he scored the winner I think against villa
This is what I sent using the FA’s contact page. I’m sure you’re all intelligent enough to write your own blurb
Dear Sirs
May I applaud the new stance to remove foul and abusive from football, with the current re-focus on the respect campaign I would like to draw the FA’s attention to the language employed by Pepe Reina of Liverpool during thier game with West Brom. The Liverpool goalkeeper can clearly be seen to swear whether the referee heard is open to dispute however given the retrospective punishment given recently I trust the FA will investigate and take appropriate action.
Best regards
XXXXX
better yet scott just create a template to use where the referee, match etc can changed so it can be easily mass produced, i mean this has gotten beyond a joke now. The FA cannot continue to use us as a scapegoat like this, its fucking despicable.
the standard of refereeing in this country is plummeting, the respect campaign is so counterproductive when you have self important, patronising referees treating grown men like children and refusing to explain and siclose the reasoning behind their decision, it owuldnt be tolerated in other walks of life so why would it be tolerated here. disgraceful
LUHG
Cheer up Reds
Fuck this – we have a title to win a double would be nice the sequel to the treble and we’d be over the moon
I learned today my son’s teacher is a Manchester United fan
She wore the last umbro shirt with her name and the number 19
I told her that was the omen I was looking for
19 Reds – that’s all that matters – Come on Manchester United!!!
Good night Reds
When they are still firing at you – they are scared of the beast not that they have created but the one that they cannot stop
This shirt is more than just a shirt. It is a way of life.
If the rumors are true about United looking at this chap for next season and he does sign… that is when the retrospective ban will take place!!!! if he stays at pool or goes anywhere else then nowt will happen!!!
Red Dave, each of us needs to contact the FA with our own form of words, it takes 5 mins mate, its important as its the first time we have an angle to challenge the FA’s hypocrisy.
@Mattbw7, I sent them this, not quite as good as yours though.
Having witnessed the ban of Wayne Rooney due to swearing on the football park, could I please draw your attention to the Liverpool- West Brom game in which Liverpool’s goalkeeper chose to swear directly at the referee. Considering this directly contradicts the objectives of the respect campaign, where Rooney’s doesn’t, should Jose Manuel Reina not be banned for two matches as well?
I would like to be informed as to the circumstances regarding swearing which could lead to a player being sent off?
Many Thanks
Why aint it as good as mine, looks good to me mate
@Mattbw7
My Dear Reds,
We all know the FA are a pile of hypocritical twats of the lowest order. But let us not waste our energy on this matter any longer.
WE GOT A GAME TOMORROW!
NUMBER 19 IS CLOSE
WE’LL BEAT CITY WITHOUT ROONEY
And we all be celebrating at the end of the season.
FUCK THE FA!….let’s do what we do best. FIGHT ADVERSITY and let them hater rot on their ENVY!
@Mattbw7
I forgot to put the kisses in, that’s why!
the excuse is scott, the camera picked up what rooney said which is utter bollex. The reality is yet again, wayne rooney plus united equels a screw job. For the rest scott free
Ahh of course, actually the kisses are where I put my real name or perhaps not, the real point is, the different approaches will give the complaints genuine authenticity, tbh I have no gripe with Riena but the FA have set this precedent and they must be bombarded with every instance of swearing.
1) The ref heard him say it and was ok with it.
2) Reina doesn’t play for Man United.
3) The ref was Martin Atkinson.
Was there any other outcome?
Devil310 the matter is closed as far as Rooney is concerned but it aint the same as the FA’s reponsibility.
@Mattbw7
I’m not a 100% sure who it will be that checks the complaints, but lets hope that there are enough to make the FA take it seriously.
Trailer ||| Manchester United vs Fulham 2011
http://www.youtube.com/user/StonyUnited#p/u/0/bpXZxZSxsyI
Costas, it take 5 mins to contact the FA, and eventually they will have to take similat action against another player.
Nothing will change, we’ve been getting screwed since time immemorial. Shit runs down the hill lads.
TBH Faddy, I think our efforts will prove futile but I know one thing , if we do nothing its definatley futile.
Come on Willie contact em once
@willierednut
That’s true but no one has ever written them a complaint as powerful as mine before so that might lead to a change of thought!!!!
@Mattbw7
I get it….But I will like us reds to talk (focus) about tomorrow. The FA are and will continue to take a piss on us every time they can to try to sabotage our season…whether is this one or any new ones. I was actually surprise that this (the FA fucking us over) had not happened earlier….but it is what it is. Any person with a brain can see it.
If they do formalize their biased and hypocritical “respect” campaign with any sort of avenues to send formal complaints about the language used in the field by players, then I’ll be the first one to sign on and throw a fit at them….But we all know that they won’t do that.
That’s why I would like to both incidents behind us, and focus on making history.
Take a swing at em willie!!!
Devil310 Im focused on tomorrow but until I get to the ground what can I do to affect the result, Ill be shouting and chanting as I always do but tonight I can do some good by doing this, Im focused on UTD.
They’re not worth my anger and fortitude lads. Or yours, for that matter.
ok willie, each to thier own
3:30 minutes of today’s SAF interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl8KxDZNXhA
2:47 minutes of SAF on “cops and Rooney ban”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7mz5ziCtcA&feature=relmfu
@Matt
Isn’t it one of those situations where they won’t punish the player as long as the ref was ok with it? For example, I am sure that fans contacted the FA about Rooney’s elbow at Wigan, but since Clattenburg was ok with it, there was nothing they could do. I doubt they will ever ban another player for that reason. And the length of the ban shows what this was really about. Bernstein trying to do his former club a favour.
its just the start costas, Theres no point in all gnashing of teeth we’ve done in the last few days if when we are presented with opportunites to least do something and point to the FA evidence of thier hypocrisy, other wise we all should have shut the fuck up days ago and accepted whatever happened with total equanimity.
The right comments muttered at Balotelli could produce a tirade of red card proportions.
Otherwise tell him his shirt is inside out, at the prematch hand shake.
Scott, Sorry mate. You just don’t get it. This rule only applies to big clubs and high profile players. It is not a rule for small clubs. Actually, it can’t be applied to any other club. United are the only big club left. Liverpool? You must be joking!
Ha ha ha ha a hhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa OH my.
smartalex. Amazing statements.
He’s put himself in a very difficult position.
Have to send off anyone for swearing or be seen to have double standards.
I don’t know where his career is going to go from here.
He’s been put under pressure.
well its goodnight from me, if your comin to the match shout yer bollocks off.
Balotelli needs to phone Frank.
Wasn’t there a game in Spain a few years back where a player got sent off for telling the referee in english to fuck off? The referee understood exactly what he had said. Afterwards, a couple of spanish players were falling about telling each other to fuck off in their best english impersonation. Is there a video of this Would love to see it
reina will get a delayed 2 match ban if he signs for utd in the summer.
Scott, I think thats a good idea that whenever we see or hear a player swearing we should write in and complain to the FA. Then they will realise how stupid they have been. Lets see if they can ban every single person in the league cos that is what is gonna happen.
Scott I am 100% behind you in writing to the FA every time cunting offensive language is seen/heard at a football match. I don’t mind if I have to write in for about 19 matches a week, as you rightly said they opened a can of worms. Let us know how to contact the FA asap mate because we need to show them the wrath of our supporters. And I also want to say thank you so much for this fantastic blog, United mean so much to me and to have a forum dedicated to United fans and with sensible opinions, you can’t beat it, I think I speak for all of us when I say thank you.
Also, when did Red Nev say that? He is such a fucking legend!
Frank needs to put down that tagatelli
More than 200 manchester City fans queued for hours to get their hands on a must-have ticket for the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley against arch rivals Manchester United at Wembley.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1417541_manchester-city-fans-queue-from-5am-to-snap-up-tickets-for-fa-cup-semi-final
I didn’t know that they had 200 fans.
A ceasefire between us and the FA is unlikely so RedNev doing a bit of Punditry is a smart move from Sky ratings wise. Its brilliant for us because he really doesn’t give a fuck about a career in television, unlike so many other cunts, so we can expect the brutal truth everytime. GARY is exactly what the game needs.
Veek too right you are lad!
ROMsters should up every article Gary puts out. It will only stay this way IF he has an audience = lots of hits for his articles.
Gary Neville is a red, is a red, is a red
Gary Neville is a red, he despises ABUs
This is absolutely ridiculous, as if no one has ever said F*** on the telly. Bleeding hypocrites all of em.
Great idea! What adress should the letters/emails be sent to?
What are swearing words?
“Fucking what?” by Rooney.
“Get your fucking cunt here and fuck me” by John Terry to Wayne Bridge’s GF.
The fucking cunts at the FA need to publish a full list of words & phrases that constitute swearing offences.
Now, fucking get a move on it and get it done.
great idea scott – this is what i sent em.
dear sir/madam
I would like to commend you on your recent stance regarding wayne rooney using bad laungage during a football match. this should be stamped out of football.
I would also like to bring something to your attension. on the same day as the rooney incident there was also another incident of a player using bad laungage towards a ref. this incident happened during the liverpool match. pepe reina can be seen clearly using foul laungage towards the ref. myself and my young child could clearly see this and i was outraged.
I trust this matter will be fully investigated and an appropriate two game ban will also be given to reina. im sure the fa will do this as you guys would not want to seem inconsistant or biased against manchester united players.
again i just wanted to say well done. its about time someone took a stand against this scurge on society- bad laungage. i will contact you every time i see a player using bad laungage on the pitch and you can give them a two game ban.
together, we will once again have respect for the refs.
yours sincerly : concerned football fan
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/WhoWeAre/ContactUs/NewsAndFeatures/2004/FAComplaint
I think this is worth a shot. Not only in reporting foul-mouthed conduct by any other player in english football but also for letters of complaint in regard to this new policy and the ban to Wayne without any prior warning.
If this fails, we should contact the IFO in numbers (the link is on that webpage) for this matter to be looked into in greater detail.
Off topic:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/904084/man-united%27s-gary-neville-granted-juventus-testimonial?cc=4716
Liverpool are now a joke club.Gerrard has been ruled out of remainder of the season and i bet he is not injured or anything.They would role over against arsenal.Cant imagine them doing anything for us.
All the pundits and footballers who say liverpool are the best club in english history should be ashamed o fthemselves.They (scouse fans)were cheering for chelski last season in assfield.
Pathetic club who just live in their past.And i can guarentee liverpool cant win the league for next 10 odd years especially with this mentality.I even say they wont finish in top 4 in next 3 seasons.
Just show your 5 symbol because thats what you guys can do.PATHETIC CLUB.
you can write to their twitter @thefadotcom. i just write cunt…stupid…an so on earlier this week hahhaa.
Scott, when you write that complaints to the FA, tell me. I will write one too.
On another note, Reina has already been shown a card here. So i dont think the FA can impose another punishment. They will find excuses not to anyway
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0409/1224294304155.html
Something to take your mind of all the negativity.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0409/1224294304155.html
Good piece i thought.
Oops.Sorry for the double post.
“… sometimes United run out of time, but they are never beaten.” Mark Hughes on today.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/904360/mark-hughes:-sir-alex-ferguson-behind-manchester-united-mentality?cc=3888
@MG
This shirt is more than just a shirt. It is a way of life.
I wish people like you existed in my current location, and don’t think it’s lame to support a Football Club. That line tells you everything that life has to.
Swear Reporter!!!
one rule for them one rule for us….i just accept it now
The FA consistant? You have got to be joking, no chance of that happening.
Morning reds! Hopefully we will have an easy game on our hands today. It’s been a while since we’ve had one. Predicted line up:
VDS – Brown, Smalling, Vidic, Evra – Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Park – Berbatov, Hernandez
Valencia, Giggs, Rooney and Rio rested for Tuesday.
Morning Costas. Yeah I think that’s the team we’ll play. Is O’Shea fit? I’ve forgotten what’s happened to him.
@boogeyman
Hi mate. Sir Alex said he is. He got a hamstring injury against Marseille at OT. But I can see Brown getting the nod today. Or maybe Fabio if we are looking for a more attacking option.
Has anybody heard injury update on Rafael?
@ Mycowisthebest,
Reina was being booked for something else, as you can see he uses foul, abusive, morally wrong, unfit for 21st century England language after he is booked so therefore he was not punished for it. If he had got a second yellow and was sent off then yes
According to reports Kuszczak is on his way out. But thats expected with another goalie signing in the summer.
@KingOfStretfordEnd
Rafael should be fit for the 2nd leg against Chelsea. Just out for today.
@costas Fabio is alright i beleive?
I expect Park to be rested as well. Expect Gibson(shudder) to play.
Ando on the bench and Owen as well.
Martin Atkinson? He’s one of the Russian gangsters ho’s.
A bit of fun .One David Beckham this can not be true http://www.sportpost.com/video/view/David+Beckham+trickshots+on+Santa+Monica+beach
Just read the PIG news. A bit suprised to be honest. I always thought that we won’t sign another goalie and give him and Linde a chance to fight for the number 1 spot. Maybe the rumors about De Gea are more real than we thought? Nonetheless, I respect Tomasz’s decision. He has to do what’s best for him.
@shubhangmanred
Yeah I think Fabio should be ok. I don’t remember him getting a knock at Upton Park. I was wondering who Sir Alex might rest between Park and Antonio. I went with Valencia because Park needs games. But who knows? On current form, it’s tough to leave Giggs out as well.
I don’t think Gibson will play. Ando and Scholes are more likely to start next to Carrick. It’s nice to have options again!
Hopefully Owen plays some part today I can actually see him starting and having Hernandez as the secret weapon. Whats this PIG news everyones been going on about.
@NOtorious
It’s from an interview he gave:
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/84326.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
Thanks for the link Costas. Bit of a shame don’t know how well he could do if given a run of games and whos to say we may go through another transitional period like we did post Schmeichel. Although we did win titles 3 out of the next 4 years before the Howard/Carroll years. When we sell him have to get good money for him can’t give him away for free.
Just on the Rooney thing and his ban, the last FA cup semi-final we had he wasn’t even on the bench, I don’t even think he travelled.
Foster, Rafael Da Silva, Ferdinand, Vidic, Fabio Da Silva, Welbeck, Gibson, Anderson, Park, Tevez, Macheda
Kuszczak, Evra, Scholes, Berbatov, Neville, Nani, Evans
So he may not even have played him. Even if it is City I think Ferguson will be ringing in the changes as we’ll have a huge game against Newcastle the following Tuesday. Especially if you consider the very real reality that the game could go to extra time and penalties. Ferguson always comments on the sapping effect that the Wembley pitch has on players so the more I think about it the more I think that Rooney wouldn’t have been involved, at least not in the starting 11 anyways.
He probably would have played today, even with the massive game coming up on Tuesday. So win today and we’ll have coped with the Ronney ban no problem. Then we can all say a big, nice try but FUCK YOU to the FA.
Come on United .One game at a time.The team cannot afford any lapses of concentration.Hopefully its a crushing victory to shut every one up.Key will be in what sort of mood Berbatov and Carrick are in.Lets go United.
“Goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak has confirmed that he will leave Manchester United at the end of the season”
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11667_6860536,00.html
smartalex…
Saw the story and its very understandable. Very solid number 2…. without being quite good enough for being number 1 in my opinion.
I think this means there will 100% be a new keeper coming in the summer.
Best of Luck and thanks for everything Tomasz!
@costas yes Ando starting could be a possibility.
VDS- Brown Smalling Vidic Evra
Nani Carrick Scholes anderson
The Berb Little Pea
Subs: Pig, Fabio, Rio, park, giggs, valencia, Owen.
I will be very interested to see how many players get red cards this weekend for swearing?
Bet there isn’t one unless they can get a United player to swear that is, then it will be a 10 game ban and dedcution of points for the club being unable to control their players. Just to set and “example”
Maybe Gill and the Glazers should consider changing our name from manchester united to United the Examples, or just the EXAMPLES
If anyone of you readers here have not yet contacted the FA, you really should. I think it’s our duty as United fans to do this. I’ve emailed a link to this gif and one to the FA contact page to everyone I know. Wankers need bringing down and we need to fight in numbers.
For the record, here’s what I’ve just sent using their contact form:
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,
Fuck, bugger fuck,
Fuck, fuck, fuck,
Fuck, fuck, buggerfuck
BASTARD.
Also, come the day of the 19th, I’m going to spend all fuckingtwatfuck day outside the FA offices partying like it’s 1999. We should organise a proper group. No protest, no trouble, just “hey FA, look how happy we are”. Someone once said to me, “the best revenge is to live well”. I intend to do that, right where they can see me.
P.s. my FA contact form was a little more serious than posted above…
It’s a pity our PIG is gonna leave…this means a new keeper though…
I hope Berbatov tears a new one into Fulham for this game.
@shubhangmanred
I think, injury permitting, Ferguson will pick O’Shea over Brown at right back all day long. I’d be inclined to agree with him too. Massive John O’Shea fan right here, he’s a great defender. I think maybe too he might play another winger, maybe Park again. Still who can ever predict an Alex Ferguson selection. I’ll be happy once I don’t see Gibson on the team sheet.
@Notorious
I guess not every goalie has Van Der Gouw’s patience or mentality. And I don’t blame PIG for that. Obviously the ideal thing for us would have been to keep him around in case the new number 1 needs time to settle at the club. He is a very good backup. He got a good run of games in December of 09 and I thought did very well. But I was never fully convinced that he could become our number 1 on a regular basis. I just hope we choose wisely in the summer. Otherwise, Lindegaard might have to step up.
@shubhangmanred
Honestly, I think that Ando starting in that line up makes the most sense, given the fact that we need to rest players like Valencia, Park and Giggs ahead of Chelsea and City. On the other hand, I was wondering if Fergie prefers to play a traditional 4-4-2 in games like this.
@bryon1970 Same here. O’shea is highly underrated. He is a great defender. Didn’t pick coz of injury issues. Would definately offer more than Brown.
@costas
is it possible for Anderson at right wing and Nani at left?
Also Gibson to replace Giggs on the bench.
Btw is Evans allowed to play?
If I was picking the team it would be:
VDS
O’ Shea Vidic Smalling Evra
Nani Anderson Fletcher (if he’s got over his virus) Fabio
Berbatov and Hernandez
@shubhangmanred, no Evans is suspended for two more games. For what it’s worth I think this is how we’ll line up today
Kuszczak
O’Shea Vidic Smalling Evra
Valencia Carrick(Possibly Gibson instead) Scholes Nani
Berbatov Hernandez
I love the RoM graphics, like today’s with the Gary Nev quote. They’d make a great set of postcards as a souvenir, maybe one set of What it’s Like to be City and another set of general ones. I’d buy both sets!
What! Fuckin What!!
What did Reina say? I can’t read the lips
i believe it was
“what? fucking what? fuck you”