David Gill has dismissed reports linking us to a sale, claiming the club is worth £1.25billion.
Forbes ranked us as the most valuable sporting franchise in the world, ahead of New York Yankees, Real Madrid and Dallas Cowboys.
“Well Forbes reckon we are the most valuable sporting franchise in the world…and they compare that with other football clubs, but also with the likes of the Dallas Cowboys and so on,” said Gill. “It [the valuation] is nearly $2 billion. Football is only going to get bigger. The World Cup gets bigger, the Euros get bigger, the Champions League gets bigger, the Premier League gets bigger. And so to be one of the leading clubs within that, we are going to benefit and make sure we continue to push forward.”
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dont you just love being referred to as a bloody franchise?
@Red Simmo
Fucking hate it.
We are supporters, and the club is more than just a business venture.
You’d think if was a branch of McDonalds the way they speak about it.
You’re damn right, and I paid 40pounds for the jersey!
So there is value in the market. Where’s my wallet?
unfortunate fact of life, United is a franchise / brand. its about shifting jerseys, mugs, scarves, anything they can put the crest on and sell.
Gill can go jump off a bridge for all I care. Lying puppet.
A francise? Jesus you would swear we were Pokemon or something
Show me the money.
I await the calvary lol. That one was for Costas.
Dallas who?
Never seen a Dallas Cowboys shirt anywhere. Don’t even know what game they play. I’d imagine its normal to see United shirts in Dallas though.
About this franchise, sounds interesting. I’d like to run a Man United myself, though there’s already one down the road.
ok utd were a franchise long before the glaziers took over,its not a evil word,lincensing of a trademark ,selling branded merchandise its no big deal.
supposedly the qatar royal family has already bid 1.5bill that was turned down,the glaziers holding out for 2bill,the article i read said qatar was going to come back with a bid around the 1,6 to 1,7 bill that the glaziers would accept.only time will tell
Sod number 19, I’d rather be bigger than the Dallas Cowboys lol
who do you think will play offence tonight?
@ xol
so we are officially bigger than an american gay porn movie? Quality!
Being the most valuable franchise doesn’t really count for much since most of the money United makes is put to use servicing intrest payments instead of being reinvested in to the club.
I wonder how long it will take for some of that money to be reinvested in to a few midfield players?
Should The Qatari Royal family decide to attempt to buy United they won’t need to do much in order to sontinue being the most valuable franchise. United makes money anyway. Just we expect most the money to be spent on players.
@willierednut
Since the Cowboys were mentioned, the cavaly won’t be far behind.
I kid. I kid. Not in the mood for Glazers debates to be honest. The way Gill is talking, I think that he is setting the bar, but also indicating that it would take something more than 1.25 bil. I don’t think that the Glazers would sell, unless the offer was really tempting.
Red Simmo “offence” Nice one.
@Red Simmo
I just hope that our quarterback Scholes starts tonight.
Give Fergie some money to sign few players then Gill.
Red Simmo
No offence mate. Seriously though, Rooney in a 4-5-1.
Wrong – we are fucking priceless.
The United state of a merry can football.
Don’t forget it’s an aay game – all about the deefence
#away
Blood sucking leeches!
@ Costas
I reckon Scholes will come on sometime in the second period
@Red Ben
Precisely. Say franchise and i think mcdonald’s.
in january utd were valued at $1.87bill since then the club have done quite a few deals world-wide, the latest being sirius satellite radio as soon as that happened i became a subscriber and i vowed i’d never pay for radio.gill isn’t saying anything thats untrue its fair to say utds value will increase again if its 4% like last year that would bring the value to $ 2bill which is 1.25billion pounds he’s just stating a fact.
Hope ur right about the bid from qutar wayne. We need rid of malcolm and co and there fucking debt pronto before we end up like leeds. .
Who’s playing Jerry Maguire? Show me the money! I love Black people!
lets start another manchester united
its a franchise
I thought if you were part of a franchise you would have branches all over the damn place
…like McDonalds
…like Kentucky Fried Chicken
…like Walmart
Is Gill trying to tell me I can go and get me a Nani down the road? WTF.
Aye we may be that valuable, but do the Dallas Cowboys have just as much Debt as what they are worth? Gill didnt bring that up did he the tosser! GLAZERS OUT!!!!
I suppose this is good news in a way but will be interesting how we cope when the new financial rules come in place. Any opportunity of big money spending that is not in relation to turnover is gone now. If we do not meet the requirements it will be the fans who suffer without actually having done nothing wrong,bet the virus get away with it though. As for the term “franchise” I fucking loathe it its just a business buzz word. Just like anyone earning over 50k in the business world is a business man and a guy on a market stall is considered a trader.
@ KingEric- I’m well thanks my laptop packed in last week so won’t be able to post as much till I get a new one which wont be anytime soon. Thanks for asking.
Need to win tonight any news on Rios injury is it serious? Even if it isn’t was at game on weekend and Smalling looks the dogs bollocks can’t believe the unjustified criticism aimed at him whilst he was at Fulham at back end of last season. When there’s an injury it looks as if Evans has been relegated to 4th choice.
@troy it can mean that but if also means licensing of a trade mark selling branded merchandise etc.
perhaps being likened to McDonalds is not such a bad thing……look at the comparisons between the two:
Famous throughout the world
Loved by all who attend but generally considered over priced
You can never find an empty seat
You never see the same person in there twice
The car park is too fucking small
Too many women and children
You’ll never see Owen Hargreaves inside
and, whenever scousers have been in they wreck the bogs!
@Alpha RS spot on mate,anyway it’s all down to these blood sucking leeches who are holding out for more money…can’t believe this you’d swear they want to hold on to this club as if they paid each and every penny out of their pockets to buy the club,sadly that isn’t the case,they only have done one reasonable thing at this club and we all know what that is…letting Fergie take control of everything as he is rightfully boss of everything that embodies Manchester United apart from that they’ve tend to become leeches and go silent on the club’s financial capacity. Football is a cut throat business and I hope we can get a Fergie like attitude,tenacity passion manager,who’ll pass on the values and norms of the club by recruiting young players throgh the academy,reminding players what it means to be a United player,the background of the club,the Munich Air Disaster,Busby Babes etc, I’d fancy a British manager rather than that whoring coach called Mourinho,’Arry etc. Hope we go out there tonight and The Ninja can give Charlie Adam a footballing lesson: how to run the game in the middle of the park!
Qatar is the way forward….
Oust them!
Off topic but anyone else seen this?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/01/25/2319764/goalcom-uk-premier-league-team-of-the-week-matchday-24
J O’Shea made goal.com team of the week this week. I know hes not been at his best so far this season but hes a great guy to have in the squad and he put in a good performance this week and it’s great to see him get some positive recognition for a good performance and not as the scapegoat that alot of people on here see him as.
NotoriousRedDevil
It seems that Sir Alex considers Smalling as Rio’s replacement, Evan’s as Vidic back-up.
This is mainly due to which side they are more comfortable on.
I know fans think SAF and Gill should have done more, when the Glazers bought United. Lets say, the both of them walked away from United in 2006, were would that have left United? No manager and no chief executive equals no stability.
Costas – All that I will say on this debate now is? I would not be suprised in the next 2 years united have new ownership. because an offer of 2 billion no debt for the parasites attached will be snapped up. Because no football club is worth 1.25 billion when the club never makes that kind of money in 4 years
A fact of life unfortunately that football no longer has a soul. i hope the whole thing goes bust and has to start from scratch. then we might see all clubs run along the same lines as barcelona. I know people get sick of hearing it but they really are the fans club. I mean, you cant even buy a season ticket unless the right to purchase one is handed down through the family.
You can only dream of that here, until we can raise $2billion. some chance. We are stuck with the capitalists unfortunately.
Up the workers.
@Vidic is Titanium barcelona is the worst example you could have used mate,the club is in serious trouble had to take out a bank loan this year to pay wages,that team doesn’t even rate in the top 10
Glazers took over in 2005. It’s now coming to 6 years. Please stop comparing us to Leeds. They were never gonna be as big as United are, and don’t have the financial depth, nor the same appeal. They hedged their bets on CL money, future money. Without a decent squad to rely on, and definitely without a decent Reserve squad and academy.
In comparison, what we have can be seen.
If someone had said 6 years ago we’d win a CL trophy and 3 PL titles, no one would’ve believed him. Because apparently, we’d be in so much debt that we’d go under like Leeds did and disappear into oblivion.
I’m not worshipping Glazers here, I just think they have been receiving very unfair criticism. I don’t have the full picture of the structure of the debt they took on, and neither can I guess the intelligence of the hedge funds owners. But those hedge funds owners would be more than happy to take over control of the club, leave it to continue churning the profits it does, while finding another buyer.
The Qatar royals buying the club… neither for nor against it. At least I know the Glazers are businessmen and what they want is for the club to continue being profitable, and being somewhat familiar with the sporting industry, will know one or two. I hope the Qataris don’t take for the granted the club’s success like its own fields – always pumping, never-ending, fully autopilot.
And if they are as autocratic as I would expect Royals to be… SAF might just decide to say that’s it, he’s done what he’s set out to do.
About those forthcoming changes to club regulations, is that still on the cards? I ask because I finally got a response from the local MP regarding the football governance debate, who reckons the Minister for Sport is ‘passing the buck’. The government don’t want to do a thing, so it’ll be up to the F.A. Here, have a read -
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Dear constituent
I write to you further to correspondence from September last year.
You will recall you contacted me to request my attendance at a debate regarding the role of football supporters in the governance of professional football clubs.
I was not able to attend the debate so wrote to Hugh Robertson, Sports Minister, for his comments on how the government intended to take forward their pre-election promises on this issue. As you will be aware, all three of the main parties had pledged to tackle the issues of club debt, better regulation, transparency and supporter ownership in their manifestos.
Despite sending two further chase up letters to the Minister’s Office in November and early January, I hadn’t received a reply so asked the Minister directly why he had not responded to the valid concerns I had raised back in September. I can assure you that, despite the date of the attached response, I only recently received a copy in my office.
It seems to me that the Minister is absolving his department of responsibility for tackling the issues and I am happy therefore to make further representations to push for action. I’d be grateful therefore for your comments on the Minister’s reply. ClearLy, some time has now passed but I am not aware of any progress having been made on this whatsoever.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards
Kate Green
Kate Green MP
Labour Member of Parliament for Stretford and Urmston
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And the Minister for Sport says -
Dear Kate,
Thank you for your recent letter on behalf of your constituents, regarding football
governance.
I had a wide ranging and interesting debate about supporters’ role in football clubs
at Westminster Hall on 9 September which was extremely well attended by MPs from all sides of the house. The twin aims of greater supporter involvement in the running of football clubs and the reform of football governance were shared across the political spectrum.
We recognise that football clubs are much more than just a business – they are a way of life for many people and have a massive influence on the financial, cultural and sporting environment in most towns and cities in the country.
Supporters are an important part of the football landscape and they have much to offer clubs and the football authorities. This Government, like the previous administration, fully support the work of Supporters’ Direct in helping supporters create and build supporters trusts, and get involved in the running of their club.
However, I must be clear that football governance and regulation is a matter for the football authorities to agree. I believe the emphasis must be on the football authorities putting in place the right governance and regulation structures for their game including the ownership of clubs.
To their credit the football authorities have introduced a raft of measures to improve
regulation and governance including: an early warning system for tax debts; more
transparent monitoring of club finances; and the introduction of a more robust, and
transparent ‘fit and proper person’ test for all football club directors and owners.
I also believe that more can be done and I am keen to see further action in four areas:
financial transparency, the relation of debt to turnover, the fit and proper person test for club owners and more independent governance on the FA board.
My current priority in Football is to help win the English bid to win the right to host the
Football World Cup bid for 2018. This would be a tremendous event for our sporting nation and give football in particular a huge boost. However, the co-operative ownership of football clubs by supporters is a matter that I take seriously along with my Parliamentary colleagues. While it is clear that not one solution will solve the different issues faced by some clubs, I am encouraged by plans that The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust have to increase supporter involvement in Arsenal Football Club through the Fanshare scheme.
I assure you, I will continue to work closely with the Football Authorities on the issue of
supporter involvement, regulation and governance in the coming year.
I hope this is of reassurance to your constituents.
Thank you, again, for writing, with all my very best wishes.
HUGH ROBERTSON MP
Minister for Sport and the Olympics
Sorry – that’s a bit long
…she said
xol – The Government passing the buck? I’m shocked lol. All those guys do, is give fans lip service.
@xol lol can we get the coles notes version
The use of the word “franchise” is technically wrong and morally repulsive. The word can be used to describe some American sports leagues/teams, where the league itself decides how many teams play, where they are located, the rules of play, and so on. In most US sports, the league itself controls all of this: they can decide to expand the number of teams, they set and change the rules (as opposed to an external sports authority, like FIFA), and they set salary caps and generally control the business side of things in much finer detail than is common elsewhere. Even in the US, though, “franchise” is still a stretch for describing sports teams, but not much of one.
In Europe and elsewhere, it is simply wrong. This is Gill the Marketing Guy putting on the spin for the media. Maybe he thinks it makes him sound clever to describe our club as a franchise, just like he thinks it sounds clever to talk about “global branding” and all that other crap, but it doesn’t. It just makes him sound like a dickhead, and it’s offensive and wrong.
the fair play rule will suit Manchester United and Liverpool as they make a lot of money and also Arsenal as they don’t spend like maniacs. However Manchester City and Chelsea who are not in the same league as the other 3 will find it difficult. I actually like the rules it will mean a rich sugar daddy will be able to come in and buy the title. Plus I think it will actually force the Glazers to reduce the amount of money they take out of Manchester United if they want us to have no trouble entering the Champions League. Even Real Madrid and Barcelona who both have debts will not have trouble because they too generate a lot of money.
@hammons – that’s exactly what i was gonna say mate, as far as i’m concerned, you can’t put a price on greatness, on the other hand i’m hoping that actually, you can, so that the glazers fuck off. let’s look on the bright side though, we have an excellent crop of youth players coming through, we have the most loyal club servants in the game in Sir Ryan and Darth Scholes, we have the greatest manager that’s ever lived, and we are closing in on 19. And when we are eventually bought and the clubs debt is erased, we are going to be the most self sufficient club in the world, 100 million profit before debt? if we buy players, it means we get the best, if we dont, the money will be reinvested into the club on youth, the stadium etc. I am confident that we are going to transcend new heights in the next decade or so. And hopefully we will tonight and thrash blackpool 7-0, even though my old man supports them! COME ON UNITED!
@Stateside utd have a licensed trademark sell branded merchandise all over the world,that would make them a franchise
Of topic, Looks like Chelsea are close to getting Luiz from Benfica. Some of the guys on here have talked about him before, but he’ll still need time to adjust to English football.
@Wayne. The reason I suggested Barca is because they are owned 100 per cent by the fans. they are the perfect example.
they are in debt, but unlike us their debt has arisen through mistakes they made on their own.
and they are not performing too badly on the pitch either with a distinct ethos comparable to our own in character and a team consisting largely of local lads. Their foreigners seem to develop a commitment to the club (Cruuyff for example). Representative of the region and culture rather than what the Glazer machine and the sky years have been doing to united, which is transforming the club into a soul-less beast which exists only to make money for the bastards in charge.
i would take the debt from Barca in a shot (not much worse than ours anyway and a something consistent with almost all top european teams) if it meant we could run the club by the people for the people
keep the billionaires out of our game.
It is supposed to be a working class sport.
£1.25billion / 330 million fans = £3.78 each.
Vidic Is Titanium… but I wanna play!
@bobbycharlie
Darth Scholes.
I fucking love it. I am stealing that. welcome to the dark side. ahahaha
everyone knows united are the evil empire.
@smartalex were do i send my 4 quid.
Send it to me wayne! I’ll be the collector, should be very interesting.
@smartalex
well, a universal sport. apologies. I didnt know you were that rich.
put a bid in for us and divide the club out, like a good man then please.
ahaha
just keep the greedy fuckers away.
Vidic Is Titanium – the irony is, they are in a worse financial state than united. You take messi and villa out of that team that is most of their goals taken away, much like if you took ronaldo and rooney out of the united lineup a phew years ago. Has united of today they are more of a team that can still get better, has for united they will be fine. They are one of the most indemand clubs, and some rich idiot will buy them if the right price comes along.
plus we got ferguson so we are fine
Vidic is Titanium says, Keep the billionaires out of football. I think the genies out of the bottle on that one mate.
Vidic Is Titanium
I’d love to buy United if I could. Sometimes you can dream eh?
Of course it’s a very scary proposition. Holding our world in my hands?
I’m going to need all the support I can get.
gill’s only there 4 money, what we need is quality players, wer lacking some creativity at the middle, so turn those money into practical
@Vidic Is Titanium your idea is romantic but that ship sailed along time ago,alot of sports started as working class but the working class are being priced out.the players are to blame aswell,as the players got more power the wages are driving alot of clubs to bankruptcy,before player power ticket prices were much lower and clubs weren’t going broke,also the loyalty to one club and the fans was much greater..i read animal farm communism is great in theory but like anything someone always gets fucked.
Gills comments sound to me like, ‘yes we will sell but not for less than 2 billion cause we’re worth close to that and are only going to be worth more in the future.’ in other words Qatar, get the money out if you really want this club!
@ Smartalex
if i send you £7.56 – does this mean I can therefore buy twice as many shares as anyone else has?
(oh the power!!!)
FITB says, plus we got Ferguson so we are fine. Spot on.
@fergie is the boss
but that is the point. we are relying on some rich idiot.
Barcelona may or may not be in a worse financial state than ourselves, but the point is, the club is run by and for the fans.
our club is run for and by the rich fuckers in charge and unless there is a drastic change then that isn’t going to change any time soon.
at least their mistakes and problems are their own.
and maybe Barcelona’s temporary financial troubles might put some of you off that idea but much like ourselves, I am sure they will be fine. I cant see them disappearing any time soon.
A bit obscure here, but bear with me. To misquote Gandhi for a moment: “Just as a man would not cherish living in a body other than his own, so do football fans not like to live under the control of billionaires, however noble and great the latter may be.”
swap football fans and billionaires for nations and you have the real quote.
Right, I’m off to dig up a JFK quote.
I am a romantic at heart lads. As smartalex says, you can dream eh?
and lets not get into a communism debate. Neither the place nor the time for that one. haha
still though, who knows what the future might hold. Some day I might be telling my grandkids about the time when it was some american fucker who held absolute power over a great club like United rather than when the fans owned the club and elected a leader to run the thing for us. who knows?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/01/25/2322701/diego-maradona-manchester-citys-owners-allow-carlos-tevez-to
Look at what Maradona has to say about Tevez and Manchester City. That club is full of shit.
if we accepted our fate that “the genie is out of the bottle” we might as well throw away the green and gold and buy in as many park ji sung pencil cases from the megastore as we can manage.
you have to have something to work towards otherwise what is the point
Vidic Is Titanium
You sir, are a genius of philosophy!!!
It seems football always attracted rich men…
The first description of a football match in England was written by William FitzStephen in about 1170. He records that while visiting London he noticed that “after dinner all the youths of the city goes out into the fields for the very popular game of ball.” He points out that every trade had their own football team. “The elders, the fathers, and the men of wealth come on horseback to view the contests of their juniors, and in their fashion sport with the young men; and there seems to be aroused in these elders a stirring of natural heat by viewing so much activity and by participation in the joys of unrestrained youth.”
Well, considering the Glazers own United and the likely hood is, the next owners will be Arabian, or possibly even new American owners, yes, the genies out of the bottle mate. Supporters owning the club would be great in an ideal world, but I can’t see it happening.
@Willierednut
If I was being perfectly honest I would have to agree with you on that one. It is unlikely. Still, we should work towards it any way we can.
Hence the green and gold.
@Xol
Spot on. John Henry Davies being just one example. And fairly interesting too mate. Where’d you find that quote?
@Xol
I didn’t know football dated back that long either. 1170, jeysus. I remember reading somewhere that there were variations of football played in the C14th but I didn’t know it went right back to the C12th
sounds like early gay porn to me
@Vidic Is Titanium
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Fhistory.htm
Well worth a read, the match report of a game in Sheffield – played with goals 2 miles apart, is hilarious.
Really interesting reading about the game before Rugby broke away, lots were against banning the tripping up of players.
@wayne
does a bit. hahaha
@Wayne,
lol, yeah – ”there seems to be aroused in these elders a stirring of natural heat by viewing so much activity and by participation in the joys of unrestrained youth”, sounds a bit dubious.
Vidic – Barca are in shit loads of debt mate. What is this myth that they are run superbly? A few weeks back they couldn’t even pay the fucking players .
willie – Tim Vickery last week was saying Luiz has been having an awful season. Let the chav’s buy him. Hope he is as good as Ramirez.
Vidic – Sorry mate, only just read your later posts!
@King Eric
the point isn’t that they are run superbly at all.
the point is that they are run by the fans. I mean, the Glazers are probably excellent at running the club,maximising revenue etc but they are obviously not good for the club.
anyway, Barca were sadly the only major club run by their own fans I could think of off the top of my head and probably not that great of an example.
but the point is that we should aim for our great club to be run by our great fans. maybe should have made that more clear.
@King Eric
sorry just read your last post. lol
king of ot – “Need some quality players” Yeah as we don’t have many do we? Rio, Vida, Pat, Rafa and Fabio, Wayne, Berba, Hernandez, Ando, Scholes, Giggs, Carrick Nani, Valencia, Park etc Not to mention the superb reserves and academy. United are fine mate,.
A midfielder in the summer should do us.
Vidic – Ha. The speed of the internet eh!!
Oh fuck me. I missed off Fletcher. How could I ?
Suggested spin offs:
Manchester United Tokyo -M.U.T. (tallest player 5.8)
Manchester United Karthun -M.U.K.
Manchester United France -M.U.F. (the line of perfumes would add to allure)
Manchester United Southern Tennessee. MUST (??)
Manchester United Dallas -M.U.D.
etc.
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@King Eric
Too much refreshing methinks
And your spot on. Its not like we dont have quality players.
Any word on Cleverly? Have we recalled him or what is the situation? Are we going to? I seem to remember reading we were going to but haven’t heard that we have yet… Can you only take players back during January?
Vidic – Not sure mate about Cleverley. He has an injury so don’t know if he has come back to United to get it treated . They usually come back to our docs don’t they. Anyway reckon it will be summer when we get Tom back and I cannot fucking wait.
Sorry, well off topic, but more history…
Others believed that charging, hacking and tripping were important ingredients of the game. One supporter of hacking argued that without it “you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and it will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week’s practice.”
Damn, heartache for Park man. Since he was gonna be there for 3rd 4th playoffs i wanted SK to win tbh. Srsly, missing 3 penalties is massive heartache.
@Xol
Frenchmen who would beat you with a weeks practice. Sound like anyone familiar?
And Cleverly to me could be the creative midfielder to make the team more complete. Excited about that lad so I am.
south korea lost on penalty!!… really sorry for them and their captain
Firstly – I agree with many people here that being labelled a franchise is horrible but a stark reality check of the game today.
2nd – John Terry is an absolute C_U_N_T
Andy Gray sacked.
Off topic, Danny Drinkwater is coming back from his loan to cardiff, so says the BBC. Got a bunch of games down there which is great. Hope we can do another deal soon so that he can keep up his progress.
@Willie
good riddance Andy
Willierednut. So that’s it then…
Guardian
Breaking news:
* Andy Gray fired by Sky after ‘new evidence of unacceptable and offensive behaviour’ came to light .
Ex manutd . com
You may have read rumours surrounding a possible summer exit for Patrice Evra. Spanish website Intergoles.com claim the full-back discussed with them, in an exclusive interview, alleged interest from Real Madrid. Manchester United and the player would like to make it clear that this interview never took place and that Patrice is very happy at Old Trafford.
Andy Gray – take a bow, son
Not for the comments made on Saturday, other comments he made in December he’s been sacked for. Please don’t promote Jamie doughnut Redknapp!
Who here likes the term “The Theatre of Dreams”. We were happy with the name making us sound better than we actually were but not paying theatre ticket prices. Not saying that the term theatre is better than the term football or that people who go to theatres are better than our good selves.
I just feel that there are alot of hangers on to the old way of life. You cannot justify getting better wages after voting labour, calling yourself the theatre of dreams, buying your kids all the latest kits on demand and whatever Manchester United knick knacks that are there to be beught (that includes Soap and T-shirts Scott) only to complain that the football fan doesnt count anymore. Our greed and need to purchase the inexcusable has created this FRANCHISE (I too hate the fucking word). We all together created a this fucking monster and its riding our backs. A few have buggered off to form a new club and attack us at a distance and a few have started hate blogs but can we please just stop standing with cap in hand and whippet in tow, trying to pretend to be something our fathers would be ashamed to know. Life goes on, we as people change, Football might be what it was but rest asured football 50 years from now wont be anything like this so enjoy it whilst we can, Stop moaning about it.
50 years from now it will be common place for players to go on parades drumming up support and getting people into the games. It will be common place to have 3 gays, 5 women, 2 handicapped and an Indian in every squad. The pitch will be two thirds what it is now to allow for more seating. Games will be televised live with robot commentators (thank fuck), It will cost two weeks wages for a home match and travelling to away matches will be environmentally illegal. There will be 6 matches a week to make enough revenue and it will be the team that gets above the illusive .500 that has a chance to get into the playoffs.
Oh yeah P:S the Prime Minister will be a fat Scottish Cunt with the IQ of rocking horse shite that everyone says is an economy genious and send us all down the swanney, making us in the latter half of the 21st century hopping that our kids may be lucky enough to get a job, even if it is Burger Fucking King.
Get off your fucking high horses people, your all putting me of my creme anglais.
@Goatina, Cheers mate. Here’s a pint for ya laddie. Not a bad speech that!
“A few have buggered off to form a new club and attack us at a distance and a few have started hate blogs but can we please just stop standing with cap in hand and whippet in tow, trying to pretend to be something our fathers would be ashamed to know.”
Top line
Capricornus Supremus enters, cussing, kicking, butting, and generally kidding around.
No Gray matter, he’s a goner.
Off topic but andy Gray got the boot!!!delighted
For him.that’s what ye get ye anti-united shite
Ye
Bloody hell. Can’t believe they sacked Gray. How did this footage leak in the first place as biased as he’s become in recent season against us he is 1000 times the pundit and colour commentator than Redcrap who’s there to attract female viewers. Looks like the media isn’t a place for outspoken individuals no longer.
Sky blue out that shady Gray for a green with unpalette-able Keys.
It’s in black and white, being red all over. All in creme anglais.
More than freeman.
i just pray jim beglin doesnt get a look in, what a bastard.
@wayne … “utd have a licensed trademark sell branded merchandise all over the world,that would make them a franchise” … actually, it doesn’t. That’s just “brand marketing”–that’s United selling licensed products, and/or selling the right to use its branding. A franchise is where a business licenses a “business model”, including branding, to another business. You can think of it as a “pre-packaged business”. For example, all McDonald’s stores look the same, and they all sell the same shit, but as businesses, they are not all the same. Some are owned by the corporation itself. Others, though, are franchises: when it’s a franchise, another business operator (the store owner) doesn’t just license the right to use McDonald’s logos and shit, they actually buy the entire business model.
To put this into perspective (not that anyone cares, I guess!): when Gill says Manchester United is a “franchise”, does he mean we are the franchisor or the franchisee? If we are the franchisor, then there would be lots other clubs also called Manchester United, who would model their business operations the same as ours, meaning that they would generate income by also playing football, as well using the same logos. That clearly isn’t the case. And if we were the franchisee, that would mean we have licensed our business model from someone else (like the Premier League), which also isn’t the case.
In the US, sports teams in the NFL and other major sports are often called franchises because there, each team does license its business model from the controlling body. The NFL, for example, has much greater control over the business dealings of its “franchised” clubs, including running the draft system, fixing salary caps, setting the rules of the game, and so on. (One really good example is that the NFL actually forbids corporate ownership of any of its teams.)
Anyway, of course you or others are free to disagree, but I’m not going to start WW3 over it! Cheers!
Good riddance Gray you fucking cunt. Hope that hairy palmed cunt Keys gets the sack too. Odious pair of ABU bastards. 3 points tonight please United.
@ Kings – They are nowhere near as bad as BBC or Redcrap.
That’s one half of my double up just waiting for the fat alky Brazil to be sent down the road kicking stones and muttering to himself.
Andy should put a floral frock on, and apply as Anne D. Gay.
Anne could wear a chastity belt, and take Dick Keys with her.
smartalex are you smart or are you high. Nowadays it is difficult to know as everyone smart enough to be smart is on fucking drugs and the ones on drugs are the smart ones. So again are you on drugs or are you smart. Im slightly confused by some of your posts, I think your smart but maybe your fucking with me/us. Maybe Im on drugs and I cant read whats written or maybe I havent had enough drugs or even any but I never once said I was smart. But then again maybe Smart is your last name and your name is Alex Smart but you werent smart and joined the army and got used to calling yourself by your surname first which is smart if your in battle trying to out smart your enemy shouting orders trying to put you point across by shouting cover me Chris and the Chris stands up and says do you mean me guv or Chris M or do you mean Kris with a K, that aint smart. So, hangon where the fuck was I, thats not very smart. Help Alex??????
At least Gray told you things you didn’t know. What the fuck Is Bland Redknapp gonna tell anyone? No sympathy for Gray, but It just seems a massive over reaction, but it’s not uncommon in the UK. Don’t be surprised if Espn snap Gray up.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!
My moniker is derived from Smart Alex Ferguson, who is the most respectable man.
In my opinion.
I’m no longer smart. No longer a ‘user’, now I’m just ‘used’
You, sir goat, are a roller-coaster of a poster!
P.S what is it about this Charlie Adams crap. He kicks a few long balls straight and hes a god. Im not being funny but why would any team want to spend 30 odd million on someone called Charlie Adams. A name like “RYAN GIGGS” it has star status, it sounds nice. “RONALDO”, “LUIS NANI” It looks good, it sells shirts, its exotic. The name itself says Im a better human than you, Im exciting, no wonder with my fantastic name Im a success. Girls love me.
Charlie Adams doesnt look good in lights, it looks better when found on a toilet cubacle wall written in faecies spelling out “Charlie Adams fucked my dog”.
Charlie has a 12 inch member, cue the gasps!
willierednut
You fucking moron thats Charlie Brown.
goatinaunitedshirt
you are mental. I like it. I don’t understand it or even know what it is but I think I agree with you.
Probably.
Jake the Peg. Anything over 11 inches is a foot.
Fuck off Goat. It was fucking Snoopy!
John Holmes must have had an extra foot.
ALSO:
When you look at the names “RONALDO”, “LUIS NANI” and “RYAN GIGGS” you kind of get drawn to the words and wonder if they are anagrams. What is this fantastic player and “celebrity” trying to tell us about himself. What is the anagram of his name, what does it mean, is it Hindu for god with a deft touch ……… Their names are dynamic, they are rare and make you think.
“CHARLIE ADAMS” unfortunately doesnt give you the same feeling. His name on a toilet cubacle wall is about right. Charlie adams spells out – M a child arse. Which is why hes probably best staying in Blackpool, lol
Gill putting a price on united instead of the we are not for sale line. Wonder if there is any truth to the glazers sell up. We can only hope
He’s fond of the goodness, old Charlie.
I have no idea the team has been announced so Im making my guess of.
VDS – Rafael Ferdinand Evans and Evra – Scholes Giggs Anderson Fletcher – Rooney Hernandez
and we will win by four goals atleast 5-1 or 6-1 and Rooney will get 2 of them.
There you have it the mad goat has spoken.
Dhalia Creams.
@GoatinaUnitedShirt 16:59
Fell off my seat with laughter reading that………… brilliant
So I guess anything over 11 inches is a legend.
Whatever tickles your fancy.
Fanatical fanny tickling tickles my fanciful fanny.
Is it Charlie Adam or Adams? Maybe I missed something. There are two? ahh got it. The one I think we’re talking about is adamant about leaving. Not the adam ant of prince charming fame. The other, I’m clueless about. Is this the wrong Charlie or the right Charlie – you tell me. I hope this clears things up.
He’s a proper charlie.
smartalex is a pudding smasher lol.
Kissing in the wind lol.
any chance park will make the game today?
sorry off topic
My guess
Scrabble in goal
NEV Smalling Evans Fabio
Hargo Fletch Gibbo Obertan
Berb Bebe
going for 0 out of 11, come on.
Cedars – Hope you didn’t hurt yourself mate.
I did that once was not at all impressed i can tell you. Please she said stroke my taint with your tongue and the “squeek” and the rest is history, well she was anyway.
That happened to a girl I knew. She now walks around in a daze, with a lisp.
Freckles??
I forgot to add, she had one of those Rubicks cube. She couldn’t work it out, but then again, who the fuck could?
Dirty play. Early shower for me.
Where’s the stat man with the team news?
There was a smart kid at school who had no problem solving them, but he could only do it whilst being gobbed off. He was smart, Alex?
My Preditcion: VDS, Rafa, Vidic, Evans, Evra, Nani, Scholes, Fletch, Giggs, Rooney, Berb
Scat man, he’s in the shower. I’ll just get him ………ALEX….
Have a go at me then.
Went to the supermarket bought an ale, xxxx brand.
Went to the S MART bought an ALE,Xxxx brand.
Why am i the scape, goat?
Are you trying to butter me up?
Vidic Is Titanium – with the PIK notes payed off that has put united in a much better footing, barca are not run great, they had a hard time paying their players and the monopoly that is going on in spain who would let the big 2 clubs implode. Much like scotland in celtic and rangers, with madrid and barca la liga is notnhing. Yes they are run by the fans, but barca much like the fascists run their own television deals, which is not allowed in england and it will never ever change.
For united to be owned by the fans, some rich idiot would have to put aside 1.5 billon into the united coffers, hand a huge slice of the club back to the fans say 60%. Who would some idioit buy the club lose a fortune by giving the club to the fans, no one is that generous not even a rich united fan especially to give 60% of the keys back to the club.
i vote for a Cap re corny jokes.
smartalex, nope your not very smart, butter comes from sheep.
Don’t rest on your laurels or sit on your butt, rebut.
Don’t take it personal, you’re just a smart bastard lol.
Someone pulled the wool over your eyes.
Don’t be angora with me, just kidding.
goat stop milking it
Sheep! meer sheep!
Where is mycowisbest when you need help. I’m being milked! Stop with the cheesy jokes.
Stop stirring, I’m a churning. I guess I urned it.
Sorry the buck stops here
Baaaaa!
this has went seriously off topic
udder disgrace.
Moooooooooooo
FITB
Jesus would do it. I remember at school, learning about how he hated tax collectors and markets etc. They say he’s coming again.
It’s capitalism in’t it – so ungodly it’s untrue. The world is changing. Yeh Qatar got the world cup and Sarah Palin gets in the papers for picking her nose, but things are getting more transparent with wikileaks, political correctness, equality, accountability etc…Meanwhile Qatar have only just grasped capitalism – yeh welcome to the Century before last the gulf!
Phantasm art alexia = the illusion of blindness
PhantaSMARTALEXia
Dairy me
Berbaaaaaaa or Mooooooney to start?
If I get banned, for going of topic, I’m taking yous cunts down with me! Golden Cow, hmmmmmmmm
Wille, I see the calf-elry never arrived
The cream of England – Creme Anglais – Custard – Cows Turd – Man U
The cycle is complete.
(and before anyone gets on my back no Im not using Man U and trying to shit on my club – just a fucking word play)
xol
its coming at calf time
xol
A vealy vealy poor joke
xol – Not yet mate, but if they come, I”ll take the bull by the horns and not stand for any shite!
Have a butchers at the match thread. Meat you there.
Enough! lol
As Paul Calf said – I love u Julie u daft cow
smartalex, steak your life on it.
You mad cows.
Why do they not understand the a football club is not like other businesses?
Mahcnester United is important to the people of Manchester and all over the world.
They are just milking it for all it is worth … we didnt build the club as a community for it to be abused in that way!
willie you dont mince your words do you, Cant wait for the game, I wouldnt miss it for a briskett
Wow when I get back from work I will read all the post from true Man Utd fan’s, life long and grew up playing the game. In the US we had to wake up and see our beloved teams and players turn into the “Entertainment Business” Big $$$$$$ for all. Free agency and the rest 30 years ago in Baseball and 25 years ago in the NFL. You have the Bosmann rule. I hope the Glazzers have a number in mind to sell with a time frame.
Stop lamb-basting me with grave digs. I’m not chicken to make a duck.
Wasn’t barn yesterday.
Goat – I don’t mince about mate.
I’ve been lambasted, I could just spit!
Instead of everyone throwing comments at the same time, I suggest a barb -e-queue.
hahahahhahahaha
Let’s just enjoy the game now.
MOOO!!
mooooo over rent boys.
Jokers.
And much more I say. Qataris must know that. now Gill is speaking.
Cow in a field, Gilly boy.
UNITED DO NOT HAVE A PRICE. UNITED ARE PRICELESS !!!!!