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GNev: No Egos With England

Former Manchester United captain, Gary Neville, was asked by Roy Hodgson to join his team of coaches for the Euros, despite having no experience. After retiring, Neville walked in to a job with Sky Sports as a pundit and has been a roaring success. It is presumably because of his excellent pre and post match analysis that Neville was seen capable of providing something to the set up for this tournament.

Neville has been an animated character during the games but thinks he needs to chill out a bit more before he will be ready for management, suggesting he’s happy where he is with Sky Sports during the season.

“You kick every ball. You head every ball. I need to calm down a little bit before I even consider management!” he said. “I’m just blessed to be here. I feel privileged to be here and to have been asked to come and be a coach under Roy, contributing as much as I possibly can. I really am just learning the ropes.”

With the expectations put on England lower than ever, the team has seemed to thrive, finishing top of a group which contained France. Neville thinks the success they’ve had in the opening three games is down to the fact the players have come with less of an ego.

“I believe it is a squad without ego,’’ said Neville. “They are all working for one another and you can see that on the pitch. The greatest demonstration of that spirit is the way in which they play for each other and fought for each other. There is no star in the group. We have got big characters in the dressing-room but they are all fighting for the cause. They’ll have to continue to do that because it is going to be damn tough on Sunday.”






 

421 Comments

  1. iSawValenciaSmile says:

    Who cares about inguland?.. LOVE Red Nev!!!

  2. Hammed abiola f says:

    Just support the spineless team bcos of my boys: Rooney, Welbs, Young and G. Nev. Really hope my boys make me proud tonyt

  3. Kings says:

    I love you Gaz but I don’t agree with that. Toff cunt being the case in point. Fucking cunt has too much to say for himself of late.

  4. ManUforeva says:

    Gary the Red Nev! Go Gary, Go England…?!

  5. markynorbs says:

    Super Nev!
    United and Ingurland Legend!

  6. WillieRedNut says:

    No egos cough cough, Terry(cunt)

  7. jeet says:

    Anybody with an ego gets his wife fucked by Terry :)

  8. AlphaRS says:

    Ingurlund are shit.
    When’s the last time they won a knock out tie at a major tournament without playing for a draw defending for their lives and having to go to penalties?

  9. CedarsDevil says:

    Is Kagawa playing tonight?

  10. CedarsDevil says:

    Another round between Fred and me tonight…….Will my curse finally be lifted?

  11. samuel - united WE stand says:

    A team filled ashley cole, terry, gerrard and there’s no egos? Yeah right gary, nice to see he knows the right things to say to the media. Everytime england win the usual rubbish gets rolled out “They’re a close unit” “They work for each other and get on well” next it will be downing allowing terry to have a go with his wife as everything is now rosey.

    I can bet you that if they lose against italy today then all these lovey dovey will be thrown aside, they’ll suddenly start lacking “Togetherness”. “soul searching” will be needed blah blah, Rooney will get blamed and he’ll fling his wig away in anger e.t.c

  12. CedarsDevil says:

    This is not a reference to anyone here, just a general comment….

    I do not understand the over anti England sentiment, a lot of United greats have represented their country proudly over the years and a lot if not most English fans of United support their national side…

    Yes they will have the likes of Terry and co at times but that should not take away the over all sentiment of a nation towards its national side…

    Anyway it will always be United >>>>>>.Anyone

  13. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Contradictions of the highest order going on there..

  14. CedarsDevil says:

    What contradictions exactly Samuel? I know you are referring to my post so it would be nice to be clear and specific….

    I am not English but I do have a soft spot for the national side for so many reasons, BUT I could never support any footballing team the way I support and love United…

    Hence United >>>>>>>>>>>>Anyone

    Capiche?

  15. WillieRedNut says:

    I think when the likes of Terry, Gerrard and Cole leave the international scene, you’ll see more United fans supporting England again. If you fast forward to the 2014 WC, United could have Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, Rooney and Smalling in the team/squad. That’s a great incentive for supporting your country. Nick Powell might be a future England international too. At this time though, fully understand some United fans decision to not support their country.

  16. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    You are from Northern Ireland mate, I would fully expect you not to support England or even any other national side except your own……

    I am only raising a defence for English folk who actually support their own country, nothing wrong with that at all in my opinion

  17. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – up to you if you have a soft spot for this england team but one of the things i despise is the lack of genuine. the players and FA always come out with the same old bullshit to drag the fans closer. Only last month, the camp was split because rio didn’t get picked, now suddenly they’re all long time buddies?. There’s a reason why a lot of people are disillusioned, the national team seems an overhyped circus but i’m sure a lot of people will always be fans, up to them but only a naive person would think there’s no egos in that squad, things are going well now but as soon as they don’t win then all hell will break lose. It’s just the bullshit that annoys me but i’ll back the united players in the squad, Rooney, young or welbeck bag a winner then i’d congratulate them, if they end up with an unlikely euro 2012 winning medal then great for the united players but let’s not kid ourselves, this england still has cunts in it and until they tear up the book and rebuild, the ego problems will persist.

  18. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    Its not THIS England team I have a soft spot for, for God’s sake mate…….I have a soft spot for England that stems from living there for many years and having English relatives….So yes they are my team in international tournaments, win lose or draw….

    Now please tell me where was the contradiction in my post

  19. Costas says:

    That comment is pretty hillarious for any squad with Terry and Gerrard in it.

  20. WillieRedNut says:

    Cedars – That wasn’t directed at you mate. Just to the board in general. I wouldn’t slam United fans from England who want to follow their country. It’s the United fans that feel they can’t support England I feel for. I had this same discussion with Giggs12 and James. For me personally though? I wouldn’t let anyone stop me from supporting my country. I can’t talk for other people. ;)

  21. Marq says:

    The one thing Roy has done well is keep Terry shut. Notice you havent read anything from him?

  22. samuel - united WE stand says:

    I agree england have some good younger players coming through. smalling, jones, cleverly, welbeck, oxlade, powell, kyle walker, Josh McEachran, caulker, walcott and many more that will break through before the next world cup but which manager will have the steel to get rid of all the cunts and build a completely new team that embraces technical football? germany and spain have done it but yet the FA are more interested in how they’ll sell shirts with big names on it

  23. MR MAN UTD says:

    No egos? Theres about half a dozen CUNTS of the very highest order though eh.

  24. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    Spot on my friend….Perhaps I had Giggs12 and James in the back of my mind with this argument….

    We cannot deny people being passionate about their national sides and to be honest the over slating of England on here started to bug me

  25. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Your contradictions stems from the fact you said you’re all for the england team but yet you posted united>>> anything. Look, it’s up to you to back the national team, my posts have not been for trying to stop people following the team, it’s my view on the bullshit that ego don’t exist in the the squad.

  26. samuel - united WE stand says:

    If it bugs you then ignore it, it won’t be the last time anyone will mock the circus.

  27. mancdub says:

    I’ve never understood why so many English reds don’t support their country and never will.
    It’s up to the individual but I think it takes a lot away from a tournament if your country isn’t involved.
    I was talking to a red from London this week and his reason for not supporting England was “because they’re shit”. That just says glory hunter to me and I told him so.
    I know people have genuine and better reasons than his for not supporting their country but I can’t help thinking their missing out on something.
    I know were not going to win but for me it’s an opportunity to watch a match with mates from all over England and all be on the same side.
    I will always support my country in any sport.

  28. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Cedars. Hello mate, responded to you on Kagawa thread. I’ve read your views on England a while back but couldn’t respond that day and have to say its very commendable how you feel that those who aren’t from England shouldn’t be slagging them off.

    I don’t why but I fell having been born and bred here I can say what I want about England, and its national team. It does still piss me off when people lay into them who aren’t from England whether it is to do with football or not.

    It always be United>Ingurland but there was a time I was an England fan and because of racial abuse and Beckham 98 I’m not anymore. When Terry is finally exiled from the England team I may be again, can’t keep bitter about something that happened years ago no matter how reasonable it may be and with Welbeck, Young, Rooney and Cleverly and Jones to come, the England team will virtually be United anyway.

  29. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    Is that your interpretation of a contradiction?? Deary me………..I said I have a soft spot for the English national side but its United I support, how on earth is that a contradiction??

    Oh and what to some is a circus to others is a national passion and personally I am for the latter

  30. billabongbob says:

    I rememeber during the early 70′s I supported Scotland due to the large amount of United players representing them during Docherty’s days as United manager. Macari, Houston, Graham, Forsyth, Albiston, Holton, Buchan. It wasn’t until Pearson, Hill, Greenhoff (Brian) and Coppell started playing for England did I start wanting them to win again….

  31. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    You hit the nail on the head with this debate mate…………You are English, its your frigging national side, slate them or love them that is your choice……..However they have become the mocking joke on this blog and I find it annoying

    Robbo was England captain for fucks sake, how can I not have a soft spot for them!!!! Anyone remember England v France in 82? Look it up

  32. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – like i said, it’s up to you to support england, it’s a free world and if anyone feels attached to the mongolian egg racing team then great. Like you’ve said, “what is a circus to some is a passion for others” but is anyone really discouraging them from being passionate about supporting england? not really, it’s basically a view and It seems you’ve let the mocking of the national team get to you, let’s turn it into an unnecessary argument.

  33. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Let’s not turn it into an unnecessary argument*

  34. Indian Devil says:

    One Italian team have already won today against all odds and I am sure the other team will also win tonight. England to take the lead and then Italy coming from behind to win it.

  35. WillieRedNut says:

    Watching One Night In Turin was nostalgic. Seeing the 2 United fans being interviewed was brilliant lol. That was an England team, and England manager United fans could relate too. The scene were Sir Bobby Robson was consoling Gazza was top stuff. The music wasn’t bad either!

  36. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    There is no argument mate, just a decent debate…..Anyway enough of this, we have a title to win next season, that is far more important

  37. samuel - united WE stand says:

    You think the mocking of the national team is based only on this blog? don’t be naive, the world laughs at the arrogance of thinking they’ll win every tournament they get into with some shockingly awful players e.t.c. It’s only now that they’ve realised their limitations and are claiming “Expectation are at an all time low” and even then, anyone that isn’t gullible will still smell the bullshit.

  38. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    I find it hard to get worked up about England but I hope they dump the Italian’s out. If ever there was a more corrupt nation in Europe than I’m not aware of one. They are in general (not all Italians) over patriotic and strive for a perfectionism that I find sad and god do they love themselves and take themselves ultra seriously why looking down their noses at other nations. I don’t like Italy incase you didn’t notice. Come on England!

  39. mancdub says:

    Does anyone know how the Mongolian egg racing team is getting on?

  40. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    I already ended this debate mate, but please do not call me naive………Well perhaps I am, you see I still believe that the earth is flat and no one actually landed on the moon…..

    I only read this blog and hence my comment…….. Now shall we say enough?

  41. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Terry, gerrard, parker e.t.c are a stain on the team, get rid of them and the shackles may just be lifted. I’m sure people will back younger players being drafted in.

  42. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    The earth isn’t flat?

  43. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Cheers Cedars. Whats this One Night of Turin everyone is talking about. Missed that hopefully its downloadable.

    I think it was mikekelly who said Nicky Butt said big things were happening and that club have learnt their lesson with Nasri. With Kagawa and Powell sealed the latter hopefully following in the footsteps of Ox lets hope it is true. Whether Fergie he says he signs anchormen/destroyer’s or not I think that is the type of player he will go for. He has signed Hargreaves and Keane in the past as well as Ince who were all of the destroyer mould but could also play football. He also heavily pursued Gattuso in the past.

    Probably need another full back as well and lets see how the striker situation pans out. I think we’ll sell before we buy in that department and nobody has been sold in that position yet. Last season was a write off, development of team stunted by injuries. The team with Kagawa excites me immensely.

  44. WillieRedNut says:

    Escape to victory! :D

  45. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – not aimed at you mate.. i’m sure you have accumulated enough experience to render the thought of you being naive useless.

  46. CedarsDevil says:

    On Gerrard, of course as United supporters we dislike him, after all he is scouse through and through but to say he is not a decent footballer is daft…..

    NRD

    I am equally as excited about Kagawa mate, I cannot stop raving about him……Main thing is we stay injury free, especially the likes of Clev and Vidic and we should be fine…

    Joffrey Baratheon

    Funny thing is some people think its round!!

  47. samuel - united WE stand says:

    gerrard’s good but an overrated cunt that scholes, even at the twilight of his career makes mince meat of. My point is, england need to completely overhaul the team and trust quality young players then i’ll believe egos don’t exist, until then…

  48. The One says:

    Of course, with Red Nev around, who dares – he’ll put them in their place if ever it emerges….:)

  49. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    I could have sworn it was aimed at me!! ha ha ha……..Anyway do not worry about it mate, all in good spirits

  50. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – exactly, intense debate is why football thrumps all sports and no offence was meant at all.

  51. WillieRedNut says:

    Only fools and horses! ;)

  52. CedarsDevil says:

    Oh come ON, why is Gerrard a cunt?? Because of his 5 finger salute every time he scores against us? Its called rivalry…..Anyone remember RedNev’s antics when Rio netted the winner against the scousers late on?? Does that make him a cunt? No it makes him a hero……..Gerrard is a Liverpool hero and personally I do not hate him

  53. Mikekelly12 says:

    I will be supporting England this evening.

  54. CedarsDevil says:

    Sammy Sam

    Do not worry about it mate, no offence was taken

  55. WillieRedNut says:

    For Mikey? Stone Roses! :P

  56. CedarsDevil says:

    Monkey

    As will I mate, all the way……….We may have our paths crossed in the semis but its England all the way for me

  57. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    Gerrard isn’t a cunt?

  58. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Cedars – G Nev got fined and Stevie Me didn’t thats why Gerrard is a cunt.

    Agree about Vidic, he needs to come back like he hasn’t missed a beat and in the off chance he doesn’t then Smalling, Evans and Jones need to cut out their mistakes a lot more than they did last year. In fairness to them most their mistakes came in the first half of the season.

  59. CedarsDevil says:

    Have to disagree folks, Gerrard is no cunt…………for me that title is reserved for one player only and that is CLLC…….

    Before anyone starts getting any ideas, I do not like him but at the same time I do not hate him

  60. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    RedNev was fined for stirring up opposition fans, Stevie Me only put up 5 fingers to the camera…..Different scenarios

    Fuck me, am I a scouser in disguise??? ha ha ha ha

  61. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Stop splitting hairs Cedars you know I’m right. Put down that rat burger and behave yourself!!!

  62. WillieRedNut says:

    Gerrard’s not a cunt………he’s an extremely nasty cunt! :lol:

  63. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    Ha ha ha…..I must be mellowing with age……What next? leeds fans are fun to be with??

  64. Cyril Sneer says:

    Gerrard’s not a cunt. He’s a septic cunt.

  65. Mikekelly12 says:

    Anyone donning a t-shirt with that cunt Suarez on it in support of the said cunt, is a cunt in my book.

  66. Fred says:

    Cedars – I think tonight will be a very close affair; 1-1 after 90 minutes, a stalemate in extra-time and the penalty shoot-out going in Italy’s favour, thanks to the Cedars curse. ;)

  67. Fred says:

    Big Mike, what’s your prediction for tonight?

  68. CedarsDevil says:

    Ok ok I give in to pressure,,,,,,,,,Gerrard is a cunt….. There I said it happy?

    Buggers the lot of you, rounding up on me like that…….I feel all alone and in a corner!! ha ha ha

  69. Cyril Sneer says:

    Cedars – With your new mate Gerrard, you’ll never walk alone :lol:

  70. CedarsDevil says:

    Fred

    Bring it on mate……..Tonight the curse will be lifted, Jack Sparrow told me so…….I have done every ritual known to man to make sure

  71. WillieRedNut says:

    Whoever Cedars Sparrow tips……..back the opposition.

  72. Mikekelly12 says:

    Fred
    Alright pal. I’ve plumped for 0-0. Penalties is a lottery so could go either way. What I do know is that Hart will have more chance of saving a pen than Shilton did!!

  73. CedarsDevil says:

    Cyril

    Too right mate, I may never understand a word the scouse fucker says but at least he’ll be by my side!!

  74. CedarsDevil says:

    Cedars Sparrows? Me likes, me likes very much….

    Come ON England

  75. Fred says:

    Nice one, Mike. You’ve been on the money more often than not this tournament. Looks like we’re on the same page with our predictions today.

  76. WillieRedNut says:

    I loved the Godfather. 8) Come on Sonny!

  77. Fred says:

    This one is so close to call though, it could really go either way. It wouldn’t surprise me if Italy ran rampant and knocked England off 2 or 3 nil.

  78. Redriderch says:

    Hope for the italians,as much as i dislike them,i think they have a much better chance to beat ze germans,as ingurland has…

  79. CedarsDevil says:

    Young to shag his way through the Italian midfield, taking out De Rossi in the process (upsetting King Eric in the process) then putting in a delightful ball in the box for Welbz to put away…..

  80. Fred says:

    And yes, Gary must be having a laugh with these comments. You mean to tell me the likes of Gerrard, Terry, Ashley Cole, and even Rooney don’t have big egos? Come off it, Gaz! Joe Hart and Theo Walcott strike me as insufferable bigheads too.

  81. WillieRedNut says:

    This Italian team don’t possess that kind of firepower. I’m edging towards a 2 1 England win, or maybe even 2 2? If it goes into extra time and then pens, it’s anyones game!

  82. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Remember Le Tornoi? It will be same performance same result tonight. There will be one cock up from Buffon tonight.

  83. Fred says:

    As I said last night, even though I’m not fond of this current England setup, nothing would give me greater pleasure tonight than to see young Daniel bag a couple. :)

  84. Fred says:

    NRD – I remember Le Tournoi well. Paul Scholes and Ian Wright put Italy to the sword. Happy days. 8)

  85. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    I’ve put a bet on.

    2-2 draw…& AET, Italy win on Pens

    £5 on it :D

  86. CedarsDevil says:

    My mum just called me asking what time kick off was, and is hoping that Rooney bags the winner!!! hahaha I kid you not!

  87. CedarsDevil says:

    Fred

    You mean to say we are on the same side today?

  88. WillieRedNut says:

    Thanks for that Cedars.

  89. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    Come on, England! Let’s show these greasy wops–and the Spanish, for that matter, who are equally greasy–how it’s done. Let’s play football the proper way–the English way. Of course we’ll lose, but we’ll be exciting doing it. Plus, losing builds character. And damn it, if there’s one thing England’s got plenty of, it’s character.

  90. Fred says:

    Cedars – I’m rooting for Danny Welbeck mate, not England. Although, I think I’d like to see Englanjd given another pasting by Germany in the next round. (No offence to the England fans on here.)

  91. wayne says:

    I want Terrys England career to end in failure,i’m not supporting any other team,just a non event for me.Over the years Utd players have been scapegoats or have got the shitty end of the stick,Scholes getting played out of position to appease Fat Frank and Gerrard which looking back was fucking stupid,England might have done something with him running the show,Carrick getting overlooked all these years,Rio getting treated like shit.
    Just to much of a bias against Utd whike cunts like Terry get a free pass its fucked up and can’t wish them any luck at all, at the moment this English team is dead to me

  92. WillieRedNut says:

    Rooney’s record against the Italians is pretty good. I think he’s scored 6 goals for United in the CL against the the likes of Milan and Roma? Need the stat man Costas to check that!

  93. CedarsDevil says:

    Thanks for the thanks Willie

  94. Fred says:

    That’s true Willie. Remember when we beat Milan 7-2 on aggregate? 8)

  95. CedarsDevil says:

    Not sure why, but I am really getting over hyped about tonight………

    Come ON England

  96. Fred says:

    I must say, I don’t know how these England Reds can stomach the idea of Captain Gerrard lifting that trophy on July 1st. You know he’d probably be knighted for it too.

  97. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Even thought I don’t like England and have stopped supporting them I will defend the ego’s argument.

    Big ego’s are good for the team, it’s the destructive negative ego’s you don’t want around.

    Joe Hart,Cole,Cunt,Gerrard,Parker,Rooney,Lampard. are all big characters that drive the team. But for 2014, the the 30+ years players need to fuck off to allow the ego of the younger kids grow to become the newly formed back-bone.

    The only cunts I would get rid of for their negative,lingering in the past attitudes are (Terry,Cole and Gerrard)., the rest aren’t that bad, Lampard is decent bloke, Hart is cocky but not a knob, Parker is Parker = He’s a dog personified, likeable and man’s best friend, Rooney’s made of gold so you can’t question him.

  98. Fred says:

    Cedars – this tournament has been a great festival of football. I’ve loved every minute. 8)

  99. mancdub says:

    I don’t think even the most optimistic England fan thinks Gerrard will lift the trophy.

  100. RedOrDead says:

    Nothing to do with England but after chatting to some fellow reds at the pub last night Im starting to get a sneeky feeling on how this transfer window is shaping up for us.

    Going off how Fergie has opperated every summer since the Berbatov deal I am 99% expecting us to buy Baines to go with Kagawa and Powell and then Fergie will come out and say thats us done for this summer.

    Berbatov will be allowed to leave but Anderson, Nani and Park will stay and we will end up with another season of Fergie going on about youth only to revert back to Scholes and Carrick in midfield every time we play a team in the top half of the table.

    I would love to be wrong and for us to bring in players such as Modric, Gaitan and Rodriguez but after the way the last few windows have turned out I have become almost ready to be dissapointed and never get my hopes up. Bringing in Kagawa, Baines and Powell then leaving it would go along so well with the last few seasons so dont be suprised at all if this scenario happens.

    What hurts the most is when Fergie comes out with his “No Value, the midfield looks strong, faith in youth” quotes that will surely follow before we head on tour because I genuinely dont believe that is him talking as im sure he would love to buy big if he didnt have Gill and the Glazers pulling the strings and watching over everything he says.

  101. CedarsDevil says:

    Fred

    Agreed mate, not usually a fan of international tournaments, hardly watched a match during the last world cup……..for some reason reason though these Euros have had be captivated!!

  102. Fred says:

    Cedars – and I must say, I thought they’d be shit! Very happy to have been wrong about that. :)

  103. WillieRedNut says:

    Goals funky Fred…. ;) We did spank Roma over 2 games.

  104. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    If nothing else Welbeck has probably been the only breakout young star of this tournament. A goal vs Italy will more than prove that tonight.

    Have to agree with others. These Euros have been the best international tournament in a very long time.

  105. Fred says:

    Yes, I think the aggregate that time was 8-2.

  106. Fred says:

    NRD – I think I’d have to give that award to Matty Hummels of Germany.

  107. CedarsDevil says:

    The mere thought of the United lads winning it tonight….FUCK

    Fred

    Same here, got drugged on from the first match!!

  108. WillieRedNut says:

    The knockout games have been disappointing. Maybe apart from Germany, Greece. This one tonight will be the most intriguing.

  109. Ash says:

    I just hate Terry in england squad. rest all are tolerable.

  110. Fred says:

    Yeah, that’s a fair comment Willie.

    NRD – Also, 22 year old Alan Dzagoev scored 3 goals to Welbeck’s 1! Credit where it’s due.

  111. CedarsDevil says:

    Just got a text from me English nephew saying Come ON England, Come ON Welbz, Come ON Young, Come ON Rooney!!! Funny thing is he supports Liverpool!!!

    COME ON ENGLAND

  112. Fred says:

    This is inspiring stuff, Cedars. I still can’t bring myself to root for JT and co though! :mrgreen:

  113. WillieRedNut says:

    This Euros has been good from the off, because the big boys can meet in the GS. Platini wants to expand it to 24 nations. That’ll mean more games, but could also mean a drop in quality. Basically like the WC! Just greed, that is….

  114. Fred says:

    Platini should leave well alone! It’s perfect as it is.

  115. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Fred – If England get knocked out then Hummels is a good shout but these awards tend to go to attacking players. All in all there hasn’t been many new sensations to have cropped up in this tournament.

    @ WRN – Other than the snoozefest yesterday I thought all the quarter finals matches were decent enough. Portugal and Germany have both been a joy to watch especially the latter. Think all the drama will unfold tonight.

    Read somewhere that England have never knocked out a major nation in a knock out tie away from Wembley.

    I wonder how fans from Denmark, Ecuador, Cameroon, Paraguay and Belgium feel about that.

  116. CedarsDevil says:

    Fred

    Terry is a mere insect mate, lets not burn the hopes of an entire nation because of a cunt……..the FA are corrupt, that is a fact but the majority of the English crave success

  117. Fred says:

    Still can’t believe I took Xabi Alonso out of my fantasy team before the last game. Sod’s law that is!

  118. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Fred – I thought Dagozev was older than that. If he’s 22 then he will get it.

  119. CedarsDevil says:

    Platini is a despicable human being, sad excuse for existence

  120. WillieRedNut says:

    Pirlo, Welbeck, Iniesta, Hummels and Ozil have been top notch. It’s Danny’s first tournament. Scored a world class goal. Only going to get better.

  121. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Amen Cedars. Didn’t watch the Champions League Final after the shootout ended. Can someone tell me did that greasy fat fuck smile when he handed chelski the trophy?

  122. Mikekelly12 says:

    Welbz come on son!

  123. Fred says:

    NRD – he looked gutted.

    Willie – Pirlo, Iniesta and Oezil are established stars pal. NRD said young breakout star.

  124. Fred says:

    David Gill, however, looked delighted.

  125. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Just got a text from a Lebanese friend saying that Come on Viduka, Come on Kewell, Come on Warnock! Funny thing is he supports leeds!

  126. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    I have personal issues with that ugly cunt……..Goes all the way back to the early 80′s…..So its safe to say we have a history!!

  127. WillieRedNut says:

    England unchanged.

  128. Fred says:

    Daniel Welbeck, Manchester’s finest. Great to see a local lad taking centre stage tonight. 8)

  129. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Tonight is the night when John Terry will show the world how big a cunt he is! Wait, that has happened on a lot of nights I guess!

    Okay, lets do this again, tonight is the match where Gerrard will show how good a diver he is! Wait, that too has happened in a lot of matches I guess!

    Ohh cmon, let’s get it right this time, tonight is the night when Andy CarrOLD will show what a shit player he is! Ohh, that too has happened a lot of times fellas!

    Okay, one last time, tonight is the night when Potty Parker will show us how to tackle with a head!
    Ah, let’s leave it, they’re all full of shit!

  130. WillieRedNut says:

    Balotelli starts for Italy. United vs city up front! Come on United! :)

  131. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Why always “Willie”? ;)

  132. Fred says:

    England: Hart, Johnson, Cole, Terry, Lescott, Gerrard, Young, Parker, Rooney, Welbeck

    Italy: Buffon, Balzaretti, Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Marchisio, De Rossi, Montolivo, Pirlo, Balotelli, Cassano,

  133. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Cedars I remember you saying he tried to tap up Robbo. I’ve read interviews of why he didn’t want to play in England. Probably because he lacked the balls to do it.

  134. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Fred

    Is it my eyes reading the line ups incorrectly or you have made a mistake here? I don’t see
    the name Karagounis in the line-ups! :P

  135. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    Spot on mate, fucker kept trying to unsettle Robbo at every chance…….It became ridiculous at some stage…….If you know anyone who went to OT in the early 80′s then ask them who was the most hated player in world football at the time…….The name Platini will always come up…..

    Come to Juve, come to Juve and play with me was always the cry………….Fuck off you slimy piece of dog shit

  136. WillieRedNut says:

    prasan – Alright mate? :)

  137. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Willie

    Albrighton mate! :P

  138. CedarsDevil says:

    Prasan

    You’re funny as fuck mate……….I salute you

  139. Costas says:

    Since it was brought up, the goals from that Le Tournoi game (or the Scholes show one might say):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk7HxenMFhk

  140. WillieRedNut says:

    Where’s that crazy dude Sandeep hiding? ;)

  141. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    Its like am in India mate……Fucker must be in bed sucking his thumb

  142. WillieRedNut says:

    Sucking his thumb? Deary me….

  143. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Cedars

    Not more funny than you my friend! You are really funny as I know you support leeds with a passion but spend your whole time on a United blog discussing Nigella’s tits! This world is full of diplomacy I must say! :lol:

  144. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    Its true pal, he does it on Skype with the likes of Balaji and Jeet…….

    Thumb sucking ceremony of sorts……Weird if you ask me

  145. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Sucking his thumb? Hahahaha…Sandeep should start learning yoga in that case, at least he’ll manage to get a “tool” service rather than a “thumb” service! :D

  146. WillieRedNut says:

    Balaji and Jeet, too? Crazy Reds! :P

  147. Mikekelly12 says:

    I miss the old coverage where they had shit block graphics and the commentary sounded like it was coming from outer space… Really brought it home that you were watching it in s far away land.

  148. Fred says:

    Costas – thanks for the video! That was a phenomenal pass from “Shoals” to “Iron Wright” :mrgreen: That was back when it was actually fun to support England. That would soon change of course…

  149. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Cheers Costas. Scholesy’s first start that which may surprise some people. I remember being gutted when he missed Euro 96 but wasn’t surprised. He didn’t start many games towards the end of that season and I and many others wanted him to play ahead of Cole.Mind you back then he wasn’t really a midfielder.

    Another gem the England team should have been built around. Look how much space the Italians gave him to play that ball through to Wright. Perfectly weighted so if the keeper does come out he’s in risk of giving away a penalty or taking out Wright and whoever that defender was.

    Not a bad finish for your first international goal either. Its all well and good scoring your first goal against the Andorra’s and San Marions of this world. Very few make their first start and grab a goal against the World Cup runners up at that time who had already beaten England at Wembley only a short while before.

    Paul Scholes Legend.

  150. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Okay, I just texted Sandeep the bugger and told him how Willie and Cedars are remembering him sweetly. Will type his whole reply here:

    Haha, tell them I have over shot my internet usage this month. On 30th, he will get the next month usage. But I will be back in ROM by tomorrow morning from office. He has conveyed his regards to Irish hero and sex starved Gorilla! :D

  151. Mikekelly12 says:

    Costas
    Yeah, he weren’t too bad that young ginger lad was he!!

  152. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    Commentary coming from outer space?? Ha ha ha……..Not sure why but I just pissed me self reading that!!

    Prasan

    Pass on my regards to the thumb sucking fucker

  153. Fred says:

    Off-topic: USA, get the hell out of the Middle East you warmongering bastards.

  154. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Offtopic: Karagounis, get the fuck out of Panathanaikos and join United! :lol:

  155. Fred says:

    Speaking of Ian Shite (only joking, pal) the BBC’s England coverage just doesn’t feel right without the banter-loving bastard.

  156. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Cedars

    Regards sent with a 9 inch good night my friend! :)

  157. Fred says:

    prasan – I second that. Could be why Kagawa has refused the #7…

  158. Mikekelly12 says:

    Cedars
    It just made it feel all a bit more special. They were just showing re runs of old tournaments and they just felt a lot more special.

  159. Fred says:

    Seriously though, who the fuck is this England rapper on the BBC? He’s no Clint Dempsey, I’ll tell you that much.

  160. Cyril Sneer says:

    Ian Wright, Wright, Wright.

  161. Costas says:

    You are welcome guys. I remember watching that game. I am probably in the minority, but I thought Hoddle did a good job while in charge. Wasn’t afraid to start the youngsters if he thought they were something special. It was his idiotic mouth that got him in trouble more than anything.

    Anyway, like Notorious said, Scholes wasn’t really a midfielder at the time, but it was passing like this that convinced Fergie to convert him into one. Nice to see him in his youth too. :)

    And to be fair, here’s the game Notorious was refering to:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDEOYWu80E

    The 3rd game between the 2 teams that time ended in a draw I believe. It’s their first official game against each other in 15 years.

  162. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Cedars

    Message to you from Sandeep:
    Haha..tell him I am sucking the thumb of Nigella to start with and the rest for Cedarz imagination. He says goodnight to all ROM’ers and that he has got office in 5 hours. Gn :)

    @ Fred

    Might be mate, but I am thinking we might be in for Potty Parker?

  163. CedarsDevil says:

    So who is with me and who is against me tonight? Come ON ENGLAND

    Mike

    Brian Moore RIP, always rocked my world……Loved his commentary

  164. Danizizu says:

    prediction is 1 nil in favour of England.

    Wazza to score

  165. Cyril Sneer says:

    I wish I had hair like Pirlo, a beard like De Rossi and a singing voice like Gigi…

  166. CedarsDevil says:

    Fuck me, Rooney actually knows the anthem!! ha ha ha

  167. Fred says:

    Costas – Hoddle did a pretty good job and his results were generally very good. He was only sacked after his crazy comments about disabled people, I seem to recall.

    Anyway, what I dislike about him is his treatment of Beckham, which was disgraceful. If you recall, he inexplicably dropped him from England’s first two games of France ’98 and told the press that the youngster’s head wasn’t in the right place or some such shit. What pitiful man-management. Dunno what his problem with Beckham was but there’s no doubt that despite his pop star girlfriend, Becks was totally focussed on England. It must have hurt Becks a lot, as Hoddle was his boyhood hero.

  168. WillieRedNut says:

    Come on United! Go Rooney! Go Youngy! Go Danny! :D What a team! What a club! the boys a genius!

  169. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    I wish I had hair like a Gigolo, a beard like Dumbledoor’s and a singing voice like BigShow! :P

  170. Mikekelly12 says:

    Come on England!!!

  171. WillieRedNut says:

    Hoddle’s treatment of Becks was shocking. Clearly remember Fergie was raging over it.

  172. CedarsDevil says:

    Prasan

    You just need to wish to look like me mate……….I am fucking gorgeous……..Loved the response from Sandy Baby

  173. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Costas – Hoddle was doing a great job and like Fred said he said something about disabled people being disabled because of actions in a previous life. I know there are some faiths out there that hint at that but you can’t be saying things like that in the public when you have such a high profile job.

    He shouldn’t have been sacked though but the FA had some sort of morals then would have been interesting to have seen how THAT FA would have handled the Terry saga.

  174. Redbilly says:

    Wont last long at this rate.

  175. Fred says:

    Costas – I remember that game too, a rare England cap for Matt Le Tissier, who started as a lone striker I think.

    On-topic: Montolivo hits the post with a cracking strike!

  176. CedarsDevil says:

    Fuck me side ways, De Rossi just hit the post, King Eric must have had an orgasm of sorts

  177. CedarsDevil says:

    Good game, fuck the bore fest we had yesterday

  178. WillieRedNut says:

    England on top! Just the way Terry(cunt) likes it!

  179. CedarsDevil says:

    Come ON England

  180. CedarsDevil says:

    As much as I want England to win, but seriously, they are shit at keeping the ball

  181. zino says:

    Andrea Pirlo! What a pass! What a player!!!

  182. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    Andrea Pirlo is a poor mans Paul Scholes. But then again who seriously could you put alongside Scholes in the past 10/15 years? Zidane and Nedved that’s about it.

  183. CedarsDevil says:

    Joe Hart is top notch……Dislike the bugger but he is class

  184. zino says:

    Paul Scholes is Paul Scholes but credit where it’s due. Andrea Pirlo is pure class

  185. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Watching Eng v Italy. Having a go at each other. So glad I don’t really give Eng much thought.

    Rooney looks completely knackered.

    Balotelli much more likely.

  186. Redbilly says:

    Hart is having a great game. Pity city have him. Rooney indeed looks tired, not firing at all.

  187. Redbilly says:

    Glad to say young is having a good game .

  188. FletchTHEMAN says:

    HT: 0-0 Eng v ITA:

    Rooney looks completely shattered. Needs a break if going to last the match.

    Bets he doesn’t last the 90!?

  189. CedarsDevil says:

    Got nil nil written all over it………..Still a better game than last night

  190. zino says:

    Paul is Paul but credit where it’s due. Pirlo is pure class

  191. CedarsDevil says:

    Wow, some people are actually watching Eng v Italy??? No shit!! Thought Mars v Venus was on as well

  192. Butters says:

    “Welbeck has had the best chance of the lot” – BBC commentator getting ready to blame the United player already, forgetting that Glen Johnson has missed from the edge of the six yard box!

    I have no idea how Balotelli has not scored a hat trick though… Missed some absolute sitters!

  193. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Inglaterra to win this in extra time….goal from Carroll.

    :lol:

  194. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Lol @ Butters. Then there was the one near the end where Hart’s poor touch led to his clearance going out for an Italian throw but of course according to the commenatator there was something wrong with the turf when he kicked it.

    Yeah…thats what it was.

    Can I hear Balotelli What a wanker chants in the background?

  195. CedarsDevil says:

    Who the fuck are Eng?? Is it so hard to type England?

  196. Fred says:

    Butters – spot on! The disappointment of the commentators was palpable when Welbeck failed to curl that shot into the top corner. :roll:

    Daniel is not part of the “old boy’s club” yet, so he doesn’t get preferential treatment from the media. Who could forget when he improvised that phenomenal finish against Sweden only for the commentators to claim that he had merely “got the final touch” and “helped” Walcott’s cross into the goal. :lol:

  197. Fred says:

    De Rossi misses an absolute sitter. Never been convinced by him.

  198. CedarsDevil says:

    Rooney looks shattered?? What sort of an observation is that? Looks fit to me

  199. Redbilly says:

    Come on ox

  200. James7t7 says:

    How on earth are Eng.. Sorry Cedars England still in this one!

  201. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Don’t have a Carrick to hold the ball. Eng can’t hold on to save themselves.

    Bring on Michael Carrick……
    Bring on Michael Carrick……

    Oh Wait?!

    Bet Roy is wishing he did have Rio and Michael now.

  202. Fred says:

    Welbeck off. Forza Azzurri. 8)

  203. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Well I can agree with getting Milner off. Not adding anything.

    But the changes won’t help england hold the ball. Much more creativity from the Italians.

    England lucky that ITA don’t have finishers.

  204. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Andy Carroll runs like a T-Rex ice skating…. :lol:

    via RealParkJiSung

  205. Fred says:

    BBC commentators reduced to wishing injury on Italy players. Pathetic.

  206. Fred says:

    Young getting criticism from the BBC guys now for sportingly putting the ball out of play for an Italian injury.

  207. Fred says:

    Pirlo peerless. What a player. Would have been an inspired signing last summer.

  208. dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:

    Playing centre forward for England is torture. I feel for Rooney tonight. absolutely ZERO service. Italy please put them out of their misery.

  209. CedarsDevil says:

    Come ON England……..

    Notice I typed England, not Eng or En….

    Capiche

  210. WillieRedNut says:

    Eng!

  211. Fred says:

    Er!

  212. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    You funny bugger…….Tell you what, you could commit mass murder right in front of me eyes and I would still say you did not do it

  213. CedarsDevil says:

    Yeah Rooney looked shattered………..What a pathetic comment

  214. Red Neck says:

    If England go out tonight then it looks like the media have already chosen their scape goat in Ashley young. Every thing he does wrong is highlighted where as every one elses mistakes are ignored. Let’s face it the United players are the weak links in this mighty England side. Oh for a team of 11 Gerard’s.

  215. Fred says:

    LOL now an Italian is booked for a high tackle on Young and the BBC men are taking the Italian’s side. :lol: They really fucking hate Young.

  216. Fred says:

    Not much banter on here tonight.

  217. CedarsDevil says:

    So far Mike is spot on

  218. Mikekelly12 says:

    Another prediction nailed!

  219. Fred says:

    Mystic Mike does it again. 0-0, just like he predicted.

  220. CedarsDevil says:

    Fred

    Its your fault mate

  221. WillieRedNut says:

    Penalties! :D

  222. Fred says:

    Hahaha, 3 great minds thinking alike.

  223. CedarsDevil says:

    That was almost fucking spiritual !!!

  224. Fred says:

    Lee Dixon never played in any tournament for England, what’s he trying to explain what this situation is like for?

  225. Fred says:

    Klinsmann: “You need one special player to step up, whether it’s Steven Gerrard or Andy Carroll or Wayne Rooney…” Eh? Rewind that!

  226. WillieRedNut says:

    England would be best losing this. Germany will smash them!

  227. Fred says:

    Cometh the hour, cometh Jordan Henderson. :? :lol:

  228. Fred says:

    Parker goes off. England just lost a huge source of bulldog spirit.

  229. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Parker off …. Good ?! Oh wait. Henderson ;(

    Pity us …..

  230. CedarsDevil says:

    Cannot see England losing this………Costas already said it, they are doing a Chelsea!! ha ha

  231. Red Neck says:

    The united players conspiring to loose this match for England FFS. Mark Lawrenson > than Andy Townsend. My Mrs says Mark Lawrenson reminds her of an old st Bernard dog.

  232. Mikekelly12 says:

    That was spooky!

  233. CedarsDevil says:

    Red Neck

    Ha ha…..Townsend reminds me of dog shit I just stepped in

  234. FletchTHEMAN says:

    United players conspiring to loose this match for England????

    Those announcers are a disgrace! Rooney will win it then Gerrard and Terry will be knighted.

    Oi me.

  235. WillieRedNut says:

    Just hearing England have asked for another 30 minutes after this extra time?

  236. CedarsDevil says:

    Fuck me side ways, I think I am starting to like Joe Hart!!!

    Think I need me nurse again!!!

  237. Red Neck says:

    Cedars Devil
    If I tread in dog shit I clean my shoes, if I trod on Townsend I would throw my shoes away. Fucking detest the twat. Is he Trever Brookings love child by any chance?

  238. CedarsDevil says:

    Red Neck

    He’s no body’s child mate… Probably born out of a dogs ass!! (Damn that was cruel!!)

  239. FletchTHEMAN says:

    There then, Andy Carrol give the free kick that allows Italy toooooo.

    Oh dear.

  240. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    BBC really hates Young. Looks like Bernstein only dished out brown envelopes to Motta & Chiellini and then kept the rest.

  241. WillieRedNut says:

    I’m not saying England are hanging on, but the fat lady is adjusting her thong.

  242. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Put Italian players names after the word “Chicken” and open a restaurant.

    Hmmm

    Chicken Pirlo
    Chichen Diamanti

    Just don’t know about the

    Chicken Balzaretti

  243. Red Neck says:

    Cedars Devil
    Must have been a shitsui then.

  244. red_bicycle says:

    Andy Carroll is a real shit. No skill, bad pass, tackle the ball with his head? what the hell he is doing there? I’d rather keep Welbeck.

  245. WillieRedNut says:

    Heskey did’t make this England squad, but the white version is here at least.

  246. CedarsDevil says:

    Fuck me, its all Italy!

    Red Neck

    Guess you are right pal

  247. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Lol Penalties

  248. WillieRedNut says:

    Penis it is!

  249. CedarsDevil says:

    This is scary shit………….6 times England have gone to penalties in international tournaments, only one once

  250. CedarsDevil says:

    Won not one for fucks sakes!!

  251. WillieRedNut says:

    Squeaky pens time!

  252. Fred says:

    Drama!

  253. Fred says:

    Come on Gigi! ;)

  254. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Just hope the United lads take theirs well.

  255. CedarsDevil says:

    Come ON England!!

  256. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    The new scapegoat is born

  257. CedarsDevil says:

    Come ONNNNNNNN

  258. Mikekelly12 says:

    Well that was shite!!

  259. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Not a good day if you’re first name is Ashley

  260. CedarsDevil says:

    I cannot believe this bollocks, not again for fucks sake

  261. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Well done Italy.

    I won my bet :P

  262. Cyril Sneer says:

    Poor Youngy :(

    Feel very sorry for him.

  263. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Never seen Ashley Cole take such a poor penalty. His penalty taking is usually superb. Young being slaughtered in social media as we speak

  264. Fred says:

    Tomorrow’s papers: Brave England hero Ashley Cole saw his penalty agonisingly saved… but only after dirty diving Man U waster Ashley Young had ruined England’s chances by pathetically missing his.

  265. Red Neck says:

    Ok,going to burn an effigy of Ashley young now Ha. At least young had the guts to step up to take a penalty. Roll on the new season with united.

  266. red_bicycle says:

    Cedars, I guess ur backing is exclusively for United mate. Other than United will turn into curse. :)

  267. lordrt says:

    Young just showed how not to shoot a penalty, that was really an unfortunate miss, but had he opted for the way Rooney took his then it would have been in… nevertheless england did not deserve to qualify, so come back lads and lets get ready for preseason games

  268. Costas says:

    Life is sometimes fair isn’t it?

    The 2 Ashleys shouldn’t be scapegoated though. This team was lucky it got that far. Italy should have been out of sight at half time.

    As for the penalties, Hart’s ace in the sleeve was his wide eyed looks? :lol: Kudos to Pirlo. That penalty gave his mates a much needed lift.

    I love how the quarters have shaped up. 4 sides that play attacking football.

  269. Fred says:

    NRD – spot on about Cole, his penalties are normally class.

    That Pirlo penalty… OMFG 8)

  270. Cyril Sneer says:

    Rio wouldn’t have missed that penalty. Blame Cole. :lol:

  271. jeet says:

    Big brother is watching you cedars! Good night, lads!

  272. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    On the positive note for England it’s over! Saved an embarrassing day against Germany. Germany Spain final for me. They’re the top two dogs let’s find out who’s the best.

  273. andy says:

    italy better side but with 2 extra days rest and that game gone to pens germany will win easily i think.

  274. JC says:

    England got as far as they deserved to get to be honest. While they did have a couple of chances to steal a goal during the match Italy should have walked away with the win in regular time. If anyone’s to blame it would be Hart for his itchy early jumping on the last 3 pens, especially Pirlos cheeky chip.

  275. Fred says:

    Portugal will knock Spain off imho! Viva Ronaldo! Viva Nani! 8)

    Pirlo, what a fucking player. 8)

  276. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    Tiki Taka –boring. Not having the skills to keep the ball for more than two seconds — pure excitement!!!

  277. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Only hope that the United lads don’t get slagged for this.
    At least Roo took his pen well. Not so good for Ashely, but then he wasn’t the only one.

    Onwards. Bring our boys home and let them recover for next season. Better they not bloody themselves.

  278. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    German should wipe the floor with a wasteful Italy !

    How many chances does Mario Ballotelli need?
    Dunno Still Counting !

  279. red_bicycle says:

    Just to remind everyone that 6 Looserpool players are in the England team. And 6 Juventus Serie A Champions in Italy side. That speaks a lot of things. :D

  280. Diego says:

    These last couple of international tournaments have really shown how technically inept the english players are… Can’t pass or control the ball, that’s why it looks so horrible and why playing Carroll actually is the best option.

  281. Mikekelly12 says:

    Pirlo is a good player but we gave him all the time in the world. I’d have had a belter tonight given that amount of time. Germany wont let him look that good I can assure you.

  282. Butters says:

    “England simply do not have a player with the technical ability of Pirlo” – Alan Hansen

    Actually England could have had a player dictating games like that, but decided to waste their chance by playing Paul Scholes as a left winger.

  283. Joffrey Baratheon says:

    @Fred, I really hope Ronaldo does come up with another match winning performance against Spain but I think Spain will be too strong for Portugal. German’s to pip Spain in the final. The German’s are the most entertainig side in the tournament and I’ve always found German hospitality brilliant when I’ve been there. They have my support.

  284. dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:

    LOL Rooney already being blamed for the loss…. HAHA. This is England for you.

  285. baggio13 says:

    viva cashley cole, viva cashley cole…first he sells for cash, then he strikes like cash, viva cashley cole…

  286. Channy says:

    The ABU media is properly smiling and typing away happily of blaming this on a United player! F__k them.

  287. Mikekelly12 says:

    Rooney being blamed where? Not heard or seen anything blaming Rooney?

  288. andy says:

    red_bicycle says:
    Just to remind everyone that 6 Looserpool players are in the England team

    Including Gerrard who was Englands best player.

  289. WillieRedNut says:

    Ground hog day……

  290. Diego says:

    Truth is that Young, Rooney and Welbeck played nothing like they do for us. Remove those red tinted glasses and you’d see that if they played like that next season we would be in trouble.

  291. WillieRedNut says:

    I blame Darron`Gibbo`Gibson. 8)

  292. dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:

    @ Mike just check twitter and search Wayne Rooney and enjoy it.

  293. Costas says:

    @Willie

    You are more right than you realize. On this day, Portugal beat England on penalties in 2004. :D

  294. Fred says:

    Don’t forget that Portugal walloped Spain 4-0 two short years ago.

  295. andy says:

    Sometimes total paranoia takes over on here. Like Mike Kelly says. Who’s blaming Rooney? Who’s blaming anyone in fact? People are just looking for things so they can say everyone is an ABU all the time.

  296. Ice Cube says:

    they miss penalties because they are fucking knackered after chasing shadows. That’s why the English are rubbish at them. As Butters says, England will never keep the ball because the one man who is better than Pirlo for England was played as a left winger….DOH.

    That’s why I don’t support England and don’t like Fat Frank. We rate average players who score goals at club level over class. Until we recognise class in a player, we’ll see this every four years.

  297. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Hello reds. I’m sorry England didn’t progress further, but we didn’t deserve to. On a positive note, the United lads can get a rest now and be fresh for the new season. I can’t wait. England were shown up for their lack of real quality though. Ball retention, how many times have we heard that phrase and the best English player at that ( Carrick) was left at home. I hope Roy re-evaluates his team and picks the best players available, a team full of players that weren’t even in the top four of the English league will not win now’t.

  298. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    We had the ABU’s.

    Now there’s a new clan the ABABU. The anyone but anyone but United’s.

  299. dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:

    Diego, strikers need service. If they do not touch the ball often how on earth are they expected to do ANYTHING? Ashley Young spent 80% of this game defending. Same with Wayne Rooney. If Wayne Rooney played for West Brom or Fulham he’d NEVER be half the player he is today. Wayne Rooney will NEVER do well in defensive team. Put Rooney on the spanish team and watch him rip europe apart.

    Welbeck performed admirably. Did not do much wrong.

  300. denton davey says:

    The UTD contingent – DannyTheLad, TheWayneBoy, and AshleyFuckingYoung – were ALL really lousy in that match. The ABU-press is going to have a field-day.

  301. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    England didn’t deserve it in terms of the football the played tonight but what baffles me was Coles penalty. I’ve never seen him miss, I don’t think he has and he certainly doesn’t take them like that. England just have a mental issue. And for all the mouth Hart was giving about penalties didn’t see him get close to any of them.

    Looks like watching naughty videos instead of every penalty for the last 10 years is a better option. Even if he is a bitter Hart is a top keeper but my word he has a way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Buffon.

  302. orez says:

    England out. Shit team shit result. I can’t believe that England’s attacking hope were our lads, when we straggled the whole of last year with them, and I don’t want to hear about goal difference crap. We have been straggling in attack for 2 years now and the same guys were England’s hope. This Euro has been kind of boring.

  303. denton davey says:

    Here goes from The Guardian Online:

    “Rooney is only the pitch because of Nike sponsorship obligations… England looked like a team with Carroll, Walcott and Welbeck and played great football… the past two games with Rooney they’ve been utter shite”

    Now for the LiverPoo fans to tell us that 11 Gerrards would have won it !

  304. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Only time before ashley young gets all the blame for his awful penalty. So is there spirit and togetherness in the squad? at least Rooney, welbeck and jones got away with it. England are shockingly awful, basic fucking passes that don’t reach their destination. Parker, gerrard, carroll. Shocking.

  305. Costas says:

    Our front 3 weren’t good at all today. But then again, how much can you do with 37% ball possession? Did anyone really expect these 3 to replicate their United form for England? With that pile of crap around them?

    Actually, Ashley Young was very solid defensively. He really helped England reach the shootout with all the covering he did for Cole. And that fact also shows how ambitious Hodgson was tonight.

  306. andy says:

    She bangs the drums at 22.58

    What a pile of shite. Only 4 players started that game from teams not in top 4. 2 were from the CL winners and the other 2 were Gerrard who was Englands best player in the tournament and Johnson who like it or not was brilliant tonight.

  307. Shebangsthedrums says:

    I wonder how Rio feels now?

  308. Costas says:

    Out of curiosity lads, did anyone hear who was supposed to be England’s 5th penalty taker?

  309. Shebangsthedrums says:

    andy – the team that finished the game though, who also had ample time to make a decent contribution, had 6 players from teams out of the top for, that’s over half the team! My main point was that Carrick surely merits a place in that team.

  310. TraffordLord says:

    The good- Wiith short notice Roy put together a team that did not lose a single match at regulation time.
    Bed in some young players like Danny and Ox

    The bad- Botch team selection by carrying dead weight and leaving skill players at home
    Do not have the courage to drop Rooney and Ashley Young to the bench
    Have an up and coming goalie with much mouth and mind games rather than skill/composure
    The English can not pass…in general

  311. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Johnson brilliant tonight? What a load of old tosh. Gave the ball away loads of times near the half way line. Simple 4 yeard passes. G Nev had a word with him and then he promptly gives the ball away. Could have done with staying on his feet as well 1st half. Nobody anywhere near him and falling all over the place like Bambi on ice.

    A couple of good clearances and Johnson is the best player. Gave no support whatsoever when it came to attacking in the second half. Played Balotelli onside umpteen times as well. Yeah best player by a country mile.

  312. samuel - united WE stand says:

    one man dominated the whole of england’s midfield. Stand up pirlo, smooth as a rolls-royce, pings passes left, right, up top with immense accuracy and quality. Hansen and his cunt brigade talked about shutting him down. You fucking wish, parker and gerrard never got close, then woy brings fucking henderson on to make a difference. Unbelievable. I’ve said before, it’s time they made a major revamp of the team and bring in younger, fresh quality but won’t be suprised if terry packs his shit and start in brazil 2014.

    All the united players will get hammered now and that’s what i’ve been worried about. Young was poor and missing a penalty will rile up the united hating media, not that they don’t already hate him for his supposed diving.

  313. TraffordLord says:

    The Good- With short notice Roy put together a team that did not lose a single match at regulation time.
    Bed in some young players like Danny and Ox

    The Bad- Botch team selection by carrying dead weight and leaving skill players at home
    Do not have the courage to drop Rooney and Ashley Young to the bench
    Have an up and coming goalie with much mouth and mind games rather than skill/composure
    The English can not execute the basic pass…Generally speaking.

  314. WillieRedNut says:

    Costas – Haha! Ground hog day, indeed…. ;) Lets be honest about it? when it goes to penalties, it was nailed on who would win! I told Mike that. England are rotten at the pens! Hodgson done as well as can be expected. England need serious change from top to bottom. The likes of Clevs, Wilshere need fast tracking into the first team. Ditch the old guard. Parker at this level isn’t the answer. Ball retention is the way forward. Better coaching etc….

  315. Fred says:

    Costas – LOL no, but I think we can safely assume it was John Terry.

  316. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Oh and I forgot to mention MOTM Glen Johnsons first half sitter as well. Best player indeed.

  317. JC says:

    Andy, being the best looking turd in the heap still means you’re shit.

  318. red_bicycle says:

    Andy:

    My point is, this is what England got by bringing 6 players who play for a team that did not even qualify for champions league. And u can compare that to Italian side who bring most of the players from Serie A champions. I bet u can’t even chew my words :)

  319. Costas says:

    @willie

    I was actually 100% certain they’d go through on penalties. Chelsea broke their curse in Munich and I thought England would do the same. Italy aren’t renowned for their shootout wins either. But as it turns out, you can always bet on England to find new ways to fuck up the shootout. :D

    @Fred

    Heh, I would have loved to have seen that. It was probably him or Walcott me thinks. Just goes to show how much the 35mil striker was relied on. Money well spent. 8)

  320. Mikekelly12 says:

    Like I said in a previous thread, if you put a bell in the ball you could train a blind golden retriever to do Parkers job. He is way out of his depth at international level.

  321. Fred says:

    Ingurlolz, they never disappoint do they?

  322. Marq says:

    For all that is said about Spain’s game being boring, England could learn a thing or two about keeping the ball from them.

    When will they realise that every campaign, England’s best player has always been the defensive midfielder? Butt, Hargreaves, etc. It is precisely because they keep losing the ball that the defensive midfielder has so much time to shine!

  323. JC says:

    Johnson and Milner had no business even being on the subs list, to be honest they were the worst players on the pitch again, Roys a moron.

  324. samuel - united WE stand says:

    NRD – Johnson is awful mate, i totally agree. He and terry run back and make last ditch challenges because they don’t read games well. Johnson is a liability, he’s the reason why woy played the useless fucker milner to protect him. You just wonder how they coach young players. Simple passes being misplaced, no intelligence on or off the ball, No movement, lacking severely in terms of technique. How can anyone find positives out of this? all the cunts are already blaming united players.

  325. JC says:

    Too true Mike, Parkers shit

  326. Fred says:

    Costas – Joe “Scary Faces” Hart had claimed in the build-up to this game that he would take a penalty if need be, so maybe it was him.

  327. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Mikekelly – calling parker a water carrier would be a compliment, more like donkey that’s has its legs tied up and is carrying shit. Awful player, i just don’t get what he offers that michael carrick wouldn’t have done, i’m just disillusioned.

  328. Utd4life says:

    Highlight of the game for me, apart from the Pirlo schooling that arrogant prick Hart moment, was Jordan Henderson coming on for Scotty Parker. I laughed my arse off at that substitution. Italian players must have looked at him and thought “Who the fuck is this guy”.

  329. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @samuel Agree 100% mate.

    Obviously Sunday League isn’t international football but I remember one game where we had no defenders so I had to play centre half (play in midfield usually). Won most my tackles and we kept a clean sheet. Was pretty chuffed but my manager wasn’t. I was bemused why so i said to him I made all those tackles to stop them from scoring he said to me

    “If you had just stayed with your man and followed the game closely you wouldn’t have had to make a single tackle.”

    Everytime I see Johnson play for England I always remember my manger telling me that and think how true that is of johnson.

  330. Cyril Sneer says:

    Just had a look at the player ratings in the Currant Bun. Guess which three starting players got the lowest scores while super-sub Carroll gets 7/10…

    Please note that Parker delivers “crushing tackles” (fouls?) and “Clever passing” (sideways).

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/euro2012/4392289/Euro-2012-quarter-final-England-player-ratings-versus-Italy.html

  331. Fred says:

    Carroll 7/10?! YCNMIU :lol:

  332. Mikekelly12 says:

    I really can’t see there being anybody, other than the usual ABU fuck wits, that will blame individuals. England aren’t out due to one or two individuals and their shite performances, the team as a whole was nowhere near good enough against top quality opposition.

  333. Utd4life says:

    The entire England team was pathetic tonight including our lads. The entire England team is not fit to lace Pirlo’s boots.

  334. Mikekelly12 says:

    Right, time for bed. The positive to take from this is that our boys are coming back to Manc injury free. Night all.

  335. samuel - united WE stand says:

    NRD – Exactly. football may be played in different levels but it still uses the same principles mate. As a defender, reading of the game and distribution is important and johnson failed massively at that throughout the tournament. Falling over repeatedly like a baby elephant, i just couldn’t believe the rubbish i was watching.

    Anyone wondered why 35 million pounds striker in andy carroll didn’t take a penalty?

  336. Fred says:

    Look at this picture: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/24/article-2164037-13C4D19A000005DC-341_634x368.jpg

    Notice how some players are extending their hands to Ashley (Lescott, Cole, Johnson, Carroll, Walcott.) Now notice the body language of Steven Gerrard – eyes closed, arms folded to make it clear that Young won’t be getting any sympathy from him. What a vile cunt.

  337. andy says:

    Some hilarious posts on here. It’s gone from everyone stressing that Rooney, Wellbeck and Young would get hammered because they were all poor, to the usual blame game for Johnson, Milner and Parker.

    You call everyone else an ABU and then blame everyone that isn’t a united player.

  338. Shebangsthedrums says:

    NRD – the same can be said for Terry. He looks good because he makes last ditch tackles, but if he read the game he wouldn’t have to.

  339. The team that wouldn't die says:

    Let’s be HAPPY! England out and no injured United players! Time for them to take a break and forget this BORING competition.
    England can’t blame it on the pens. If they can’t score in 120 mins+… Well….

  340. Fred says:

    Andy – you’re on the wrong blog pal. With all due respect, do one.

  341. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Well Rooney didn’t step up but then again why is a country relying heavily on united players?. Rooney and most united players never show their united form because they’re surrounded by mostly donkeys.

  342. Utd4life says:

    Hilarious comment on the Guardian website:

    John Terry swapped jerseys at the end of the match tonight.
    No doubt he’ll be putting that on and turning out in the semis.
    He’s winning the Euros no matter what.
    Nothing is going to stop him.

  343. Fred says:

    Well at least Terry can get on with his court case now. :)

  344. samuel - united WE stand says:

    I hope terry gets fucking done as wel. Racist cunt, but we all know he’ll get away with it.

  345. zigoo says:

    CAN WE PLEASE BUY PIRLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????

    WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW

    WHAT A PLAYER!!

    seriously imagine him scholes and carrick in our midfield…they wouldnt lose a pass!

  346. Cyril Sneer says:

    Germany have announced a mystery player will be starting against Italy:

    http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6495/gsub.jpg

  347. kev e says:

    Alpha RS 14:19… Foresight?!

    ”Ingurlund are shit.
    When’s the last time they won a knock out tie at a major tournament without playing for a draw defending for their lives and having to go to penalties?”

    Hmmmm.. Spot on!

  348. Brigadier19 says:

    Forza Italia,
    Issa true that they had de sauce under the pasta tonight.
    I dunno really care, in fact I issa happy that Ingerlund are out.
    I no the blalme will be pointed at a Rooney, Young and Sir Alex.
    I despise these infidels with a passion.
    The small time a leeds a sheep shaggers and the stoke fans need some solace in their life.
    Fuck them,
    Fuck them all,
    Fuck the ABU Nation.
    We are as a one.
    As we tread in to the Arcadian forests.
    A new dawn will soon be upon us.
    From that moment we will conquer all

    Forza Brigadier

  349. Marq says:

    Some people say Rooney, Young & Welbeck didn’t have a good game? How do you have a good game if you don’t have the ball?

    The only person who can have a good game without having the ball is Parker, because the idea of him having a good, is him chasing the ball for 80mins, not what he does with it

  350. WillieRedNut says:

    United! 19

  351. Sandeep1878 says:

    Morning reds around the world,

    the agony of missing ROM might come close to the agonsy of England missing the pens..

    well, Hard luck England, thats the way the shoot out works, its a lottery..

    just asking,

    was there ever a PLAN B by Roy in this Euro? nope..its all defense..in the tune of Denzel in the movie remember the titans, DEEEEFENSE..

    ###

    Hope Ashley will pick himself up, hes had a terrible season, be it results or emotions, he has suffered, now have a good break lad and get back firing..

    by the way,

    How impressive was Welbeck in winning those headers and directing them to rooney?

    i m really satisfied with the shift Danny has put in..

    ##

    Good day reds..

  352. Sandeep1878 says:

    I see that some nuts had fun on me eh? ;)

    Prasan,

    thanks for posting my tex here mate :)

    Willie and Cedars,

    wat up pals :)

  353. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    Under 22,

    India 4 2 Lebanon,

    we have got one on you :P

  354. Sandeep1878 says:

    and looks like my lonely journey on ROM has begun again :D

    Come on you nut suckers :P

  355. Red_bycicle says:

    Andy:

    I’m not blaming everyone that isn’t a united player. It just that too many time United players being blame and become scapegoat for every England failure without looking at the root of the problem which most of the time is obvious. I gave you an example earlier, so you should know what I meant by the root of the problem.

  356. denton davey says:

    Samuel @ 23:30: ” Johnson is a liability, he’s the reason why woy played the useless fucker milner to protect him.”

    A bit harsh – granted, Glen Johnson is a lousy defender but he’s an attacking force. He should have played in the right-midfield role. Using James Milner to “protect” him was head-in-the-sand thinking. Milner isn’t good enough; he’s thoroughly average.

    What Woy showed was an astounding lack of imagination in making use of the assets he could have had at this disposal. No Carrick ? No Micah Richards ? No Rio ? and, worst of all, no Scholes. Sure, it would have taken some cajoling but anyone could see that having the GingerNinja available for a late-match cameo would have given the team something “extra” – bringing on Jordan Henderson was tantamount to admitting that the only chance of victory was through a penalty shoot-out – and we know how that turned out.

    It’s not as if there weren’t options available in the players that were overlooked and/or ignored. The managerial “leadership” was just absurd – and sad. Too bad for RedNev that he’s going to be tainted-by-association with this comical organization – especially after writing (?) in his autobiography that he couldn’t see the point of playing for Ingerland.

  357. denton davey says:

    On a more positive note – so far as I know, none of the UTD players have come out of this tournament with injuries.

  358. Sandeep1878 says:

    Denton,

    Yeah thats plus one for no injuries..

    and also i m glad Danny boy got some experience under his belt..

  359. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Denton – it’s harsh but fair. Johnson has now gathered enough experience in order to be able to balance attacking play with defending. He just looks lost. On woy picking quality players, well he’s very conservative, not willing to try the spectacular, he wants the team “Solid”. Solid will fluke a couple of victories but it’s not a style to rely on and it’s not one that will win trophies. Roy will never have the steel to dump some of useless baggage that exist in the squad, he won’t have the courage to continuously pick younger quality players and stick with the policy even when results don’t go his away.

    It seems to be a circus, players getting picked because of reputation/ to sell shirts and not for quality. The likes of Rooney suffer because they aren’t played in a system that allows flair players to flourish. I don’t know how parker, carroll, henderson, milner and the many below average joes became international players. These players should be the cast offs, the ones not allowed anywhere near the top level yet people admire their work-rate and headless chicken style. It’s pathetic, i hope woy will revamp the team and place trust in youth. The style and tactics of play have to be changed as wel, 4-4-2 is fucking pre-historic and predictable. England need confidence and technical coaching in terms of passing, on and off the ball movement e.t.c. You can’t keep the ball as well as spain but you simply have to be able to string passes together. The days of lumping it to the big cunt called carroll need to be scrapped, the english way doesn’t work. Time imitate the continent and place emphasis on technical footbal. I hope woy can read this blog as rolls into his bed like a sack of marmite. Fucking hell woy, grow a pair.

  360. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Denton – it’s harsh but fair. Johnson has now gathered enough experience in order to be able to balance attacking play with defending. He just looks lost. On woy picking quality players, well he’s very conservative, not willing to try the spectacular, he wants the team “Solid”. Solid will fluke a couple of victories but it’s not a style to rely on and it’s not one that will win trophies. Roy will never have the steel to dump some of useless baggage that exist in the squad, he won’t have the courage to continuously pick younger quality players and stick with the policy even when results don’t go his away.

    It seems to be a circus, players getting picked because of reputation/ to sell shirts and not for quality. The likes of Rooney suffer because they aren’t played in a system that allows flair players to flourish. I don’t know how parker, carroll, henderson, milner and the many below average joes became international players. These players should be the cast offs, the ones not allowed anywhere near the top level yet people admire their work-rate and headless chicken style. It’s pathetic, i hope woy will revamp the team and place trust in youth. The style and tactics of play have to be changed as wel, 4-4-2 is fucking pre-historic and predictable. England need confidence and technical coaching in terms of passing, on and off the ball movement e.t.c. You can’t keep the ball as well as spain but you simply have to be able to string passes together. The days of lumping it to the big cunt called carroll need to be scrapped, the english way doesn’t work. Time imitate the continent and place emphasis on technical footbal. I hope woy can read this blog as rolls into his bed like a sack of marmite. Fucking hell woy, grow a pair………

  361. Red_bycicle says:

    Some ABU friends of mine really blaming Rooney for his over head kick on injury time. Saying on facebook that should Shrek Rooney not trying an over head kick, England would have beaten Italy. Fuck those cunts!

    Shrek needs only one donkey to start with. He was surrounded by way too many donkeys last night FFS! 35% possession??

  362. Sandeep1878 says:

    For all you facebook users,

    please join our ROM page,

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/444858182211017/

    Thanks and its a lotsa fun there as well :)

  363. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning all

    I feel really gutted, well at least for our lads and for proper English fans such as James, Giggs12 etc….My curse has struck again and now I really fear for Portugal as I want them to win!

    Sandy Baby

    Yes we had a bit of fun at your expense mate, Prasan kept us updated with your news….Glad you’re back……….Did not know we played you guys at under 22? When did that happen?

  364. Harish says:

    We all criticize Rafael for not maintaining the balance between defence and attack eventhough he is just 21. But we give a bye to a 28 year old defender in johnson for doing the same mistake. Its not one individual fault for england’s failure. There are mnay mediocre players who are not good enough. Rooney becomes mediocre when he plays with these guy.

    Now people will say Ronaldo does win games for portugal single handedly. Its wrong portugal have Nani who is better than both Young and milner. They have veloso and moutinho who can give good passes unlike parker. I am surprised no one i stalking how bad gerrard played yesterday. He was poor.
    Welbeck has been pretty good in this tournament. With limited resources he has done well and that to better than rooney. He should have stayed on. Welbeck and walcott could have combined well and provide good balls for Rooney. I hope young just overcomes this defeat and is ready for the season.

  365. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    no fuss mate,

    hope you are well my friend..

    the U-22 happened last week..

    anyway, now all that matters and all that ever mattered was and is and will be United,

    Cant wait for the reds to kick off in the Rainbow nation..

    Good day buddy..

  366. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Well, well, well, it looks like my name was being bandied about yesterday but certain evil forces. Oh well, at least our groupies involve only sucking thumbs. God knows what kind of shit happens when Cedars, James, and TonyBee get together. :shock:

    Anyways, I slept off once the match moved into extra time. It was a really boring match. When I read the news today that England had lost on penalties, I just prayed to God that it wasn’t one of our boys who had missed one. Sadly, that was not to be.

    I think it is great that England missed out. A victory would’ve only failed to highlight all the shortcomings of this team. Fans would’ve been elated. Hodgson would’ve been compared to the Messiah and Gerrard would’ve been Jesus. I don’t expect anything to change but people have to realize that England simply aren’t good enough. When the golden generation of Rio, Neville, Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard etc. cannot win you a trophy, what is the same set of players 10 years on going to win you.

    Hodgson was a dick. I had a little respect for him before but I lost it completely after this fiasco. I would’ve still had a slight respect for him had he given more chances to players like Chamberlain, Jones etc. But, NO, he stuck with the same fucking team. What a complete dick. England have no chance of going anywhere near a trophy with him in-charge.

    Andy Carroll. OH MY GOD! Andy “FUCKING” Carroll. How he gets to play football at the highest level is beyond comprehension? I look at any other player, even James Milner for God’s sake, and I know that at least these guys are footballers, of varying levels of competency maybe, but footballers nonetheless. When I look at Andy Carroll, all I see is a buffoon. You know how incompetent Wile E. Coyote was. Well, multiply that by a billion and it won’t come close to how incompetent Andy Carroll is. People are starving all over the world and this guy get paid millions for being bad at something. Life just isn’t fair.

    Oh well, at least the United boys come home early and get a lot of rest. Sir Alex probably won’t take the guys who played in the Euro for pre-season. That’s how it always works right.

  367. Sandeep1878 says:

    Harish,

    This Rafael, the Brazillian Neville is gonna be the best right back across Europe very soon..

    as you rightly put it,

    we have had many critics who blame these young lads,

    i dont mind that because when we support United, sometimes we forget how old these red lads are..

    ###

    can anytime team put in 4 to 5 youngsters in the best title chase in the recent history? none other than Sir Alex and United,

    Danny
    Rafael
    Tom C
    Jones
    De gea
    Smalling

    these all have had plenty of games this season..

    even with all that it all came down to GD,

    the point is,

    patience bears the fruits and these red lads are gonna show this fucking world on what level they are already in a year or 2′s time..

  368. Harish says:

    Balaji

    I think Jones will be in preseason and so will be welbeck. They are young and should play asmany games as possible to be top class. Jones not getting a single minute is shocking.

  369. Utd4life says:

    I am surprised that no one commented on Joe Hart’s ridiculous facial expressions during the penalty shootout. What exactly was he trying to achieve by doing that?? Does he think the Italians are a couple of 2 years who will be frightened by him?? Thank God for Pirlo for shutting him up for good.

  370. Sandeep1878 says:

    I don’t know how you guys feel it,

    but the closest we have to the types of young Spanish footballers is Tom C,

    He is really vital to us, the way he keeps the ball and drives the team, hope the lad will stay injury free..

  371. CedarsDevil says:

    Balaji

    Throw in Mike into the mix then things can get really weird!! ha ha ha

    Good summary mate, although I still think its not really Roy who calls all the shots, there is some evil shit going on at the FA……..

    Sandy Baby

    Too right mate, cannot wait either….As I said before, these Euros are a soft drug, nothing like the real thing though that comes with United

  372. Harish says:

    Sandeep

    Very well said mate. England if they have to win anything should start giving the youngsters chances. I find it very amusing that the likes of gerrard,Lampard, Cole, Terry, and even our Ferdinand don’t retire from english setup. Its no shame in accepting that you are not good enough to help your team to win trophies. England and the FA have a great chance to start from the scratch and play youngsters in fifa 2014 qualification games. But I doubt it. They will stick to the same pathetic setup and will spoil the chances of playing youngsters.

  373. Sandeep1878 says:

    Utd4life,

    How are you pal?

    I think Hart tried to do a Ando, but epic fail :P

  374. CedarsDevil says:

    Sandy

    Wee Thomas is a United type player mate………Lets not make comparisons and call him a ‘Spanish’ type player………..This Spanish generation is indeed a golden one but lets not forget that as a national side they have a dreadful history……

    Not really sure what my point here is to be honest!!

  375. Sandeep1878 says:

    Pirlo. 33 yrs old, ran 15.2km (3rd best), made 117 of Italy’s 815 passes, scored a Panenka penalty and did not commit a single foul.”

  376. Bobby Charlton's combover says:

    England were poor again and no-one can be too disappointed because
    it was no surprise. It was nothing other than another confirmation that
    the players produced no matter how much we hype them up are not
    good enough to compete against the top teams. It’s been all been said
    a million times and I’m not going to beat the issue to death again.
    One thing I will say is that before the game I would have said ‘no’ to giving
    Ashley Young a penalty. I don’t think he has the temperment for those
    occasions but hopefully he’ll bounce back for United.

    Welbeck did ok a times last night but he failed to control a few balls and
    his body language looked a bit negative after he had lost them.
    Rooney looked unfit. Not playing the first few games definitely affected him and
    he never came near capturing his United form.

  377. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Sandy, The Spanish style sucks mate. I don’t know whether you guys have read Stateside’s brilliant analysis on the Barca style of play. He posted it a long time ago, last summer I think and I really loved it. Basically what he said was, the Spanish are a negative attacking team. They pass you to death. When you take English sides like United, they bring the ball up and when it goes near their penalty box, and no matter what kind of space they have, they try to put the ball in the back of the net. In contrast, Barca just pass it backwards. Their only aim is to retain as much possession as possible without actually doing anything worthwhile with it. In reality, that is a negative style of play.

    I think Tom has the technique of the Spanish players for sure, but he also has a more forward outlook. For eg, look at the cross to Welbz in the game against Spurs last season, I don’t think many Spanish players would’ve crossed from that situation. He is a solid English type player who has been gifted with a brilliant technique. I think Scholes is a more straightforward comparison in that sense. Scholes was mastering everything well before the Barca style of play became a fad. He was doing what the Spaniards do and he was doing more than that as well. I think Cleverley can be compared to Scholesy in that sense, though obviously not directly since no one can match Paul on any level.

    Anyways, the biggest problem for Cleverley is staying fit. If he can do that, then I think the combination of Cleverley and Kagawa will do wonders for our mid-field. I hope, nay “pray”, that last season’s injury was just because of a dick tackle and not something that points to deeper issues with his fitness. I want to see more of him for sure.

    On Rafael, my biggest gripe with the twins is fitness. If they can stay fit, they’re going to be our long-term fullback partnership. But, can they? That is the biggest question. All of the other issues with them like positioning, petulance, temperament, committing idiotic fouls etc. can be worked upon. All those come with maturity and in a few years time, they’ll be perfect fullbacks. However, it is all about fitness, fitness and fitness. And that even today remains a huge question mark.

  378. Harish says:

    http://www.emirates247.com/sports/football/man-utd-to-lose-wayne-rooney-to-china-2012-06-25-1.464451

    Comedy news. Now with england gone from euros we will see some great transfer news. This one is sure one of the comical one.

  379. Utd4life says:

    I am good mate. How are you? Whatever Hart tried to do it certainly did not work. On the discussion of Wee Thomas, he will be vital to our success this coming season. It is essential that he stays fit. United became quite predictable after he became injured with teams knowing that our attacks would be coming through the wings. But with the introduction of Kagawa and a fit Cleverley (as well as a fit Ando), we possess the players to slice teams through the middle giving another dimension to our attack.

  380. CedarsDevil says:

    Bobby Charlton’s combover

    Young was Villa’s penalty taker if I am not mistaken, even smashed one against United if I remember correctly……..I disagree about giving him the call to take one, bigger players have missed ones in more important games………Baggio in 94 springs to mind…..

    Anyway, regarding the United lads that played no one could have expected more with such an average surrounding………Just glad all our lads with England remained injury free. Now hopefully they can enjoy a bit of time off then be ready for pre season

  381. CedarsDevil says:

    Harish

    Ha ha ha…Where on earth did you dig that one out from……..Seems worse than the garbage Caught Off Side come up with

  382. Harish says:

    Cedars

    Go to news now Manchester united.You will get all kind of news rumours about united. Don’t worry there are many more to come like this.

  383. Harish says:

    How stupid are media and Fans when they say england lost only becoz of these two penalty miss. Fuck media. Accept it you are not good enough. Briging on a pub player like Henderson shows you have no quality and depth. I bet if Charlie cartoon adam was english he would have also been in the squad.

  384. Bobby Charlton's combover says:

    @Cedars

    I know he’s taken plenty and buried plenty but I just had the feeling than if it went to
    penalties I wouldn’t have given him one. I don’t know why I thought that before and when I
    saw him running up to take it I still thought the same. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t want him
    to miss but I just anticipated it. In that pressure cooker situation I didn’t think he’d maintain
    his composure enough to knock it in and unfortunately he didn’t.

  385. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars and Balaji,

    I hate this spanish style football to the core, i did texted the same to jeet coupla days back..

    that football makes me sleep..pass pass pass..shit football..

    but when i mean that type player..well forget,

    he is the type of player who can hold the ball, at which we have been considerably poor in the last season and a season before that in away games..

    i m not drawing reference here that we need possession to start domination, no i m not telling, the United team always dominates the posession and according to our standards we have been below par in that in the last 2 years..

    that’s an area of improvement and thats our lad Tom C who is gonna take care of that, along with Kagawa kid..

    ###

  386. Sandeep1878 says:

    Balaji,

    agreed, i would always pay to watch United, rather than boring shit football from rats irrespective of they winning everything..

    may be i confused you and Cedars,

    probably what i supposed to say is we are not bossing the midfield in the last 18 months or so like we used to boss it before..

    no, i aint telling this because we lost 2 finals..

    i m telling this because at times even against the average teams we have struggled to hold on to the ball, very unlike united ever since i started watching..

    what u guys say?

  387. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Sandy, Oh I completely got where you were coming from in your original post mate. I was just adding my point of view as well.

    I completely agree that possession is the key. Carrick and Scholes are masters of that. All this pass backwards and sideways shit, you know how the helps, the ball is still with our team. Anderson tries to do fancy stuff when going forward and it only accomplishes in handing over possession to the opponents.

    Cleverley is great at it as well. But he also is great pressing the opponents off the ball. I think that is Tom’s greatest attribute and one that is often overlooked. Barcelona are so good not because of their boring style of play with the ball but because of their work ethic off the ball. Tom gives us that and from what I’ve been reading, Kagawa’s good at this as well. The more you press the opponents higher up the pitch, the more chance you have of winning possession from them and using it more effectively. This is why we were so good in the early part of last season.

    I think that is what both of them players are going to offer us next season. Carrick/Jones/Tunnicliffe (in the future) are going to be great as cover for our defense. But players like Cleverley, Kagawa, Rooney, Welbeck etc. are going to start defense from the front. That is what we used to be good at and that is what we need to start doing again IMO.

  388. CedarsDevil says:

    Bobby Charlton’s combover

    I get where you’re coming from mate and such things tend to stay with players for a long time…..At the end of the day it was just meant to happen, I mean England and penalties!

  389. CedarsDevil says:

    Sandy

    I also understood your post mate……..We did struggle at times last season with ball possession, something that improved greatly when Scholes came back and something that will be in a much better shape with Kagawa in the side…..

    Lets not also forget the huge injury crisis we had which was so detrimental to our season……

  390. CedarsDevil says:

    England have now been involved in 8 penalty shoot outs in major tournaments………Lost 7 of them!!

    Something is seriously wrong there!

  391. Panderi says:

    Have we found a scapegoat yet ?

  392. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cheers Balaji and cedars,

    cedars,

    yeah pal the injury hit us hard and the most vital absentee was FLETCHERINHO…:(

  393. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Cedars has now been involved in 8 penalty cumshots in major sheep shagging tournaments……Lost 7 of them!!

    Something is seriously wrong there!

    Afternoon pussy diggers!

  394. coomy says:

    hello Romers,

    waking up with the bitters taste of england defeat yesterday not that i expected much of them but the way the play is a shame for this country and Roy, u lose all respect i may have had for u. The EPL is supposed to be the most entertaining and most followed league in the world, how on earth could they produce such a pathetic performance, since when doing a chelsea thing has become a football tactics.
    we all know that luck play a great part on chelsea winning the UCL but to come out and repeat the same thing, hoping to achieve something!!! that’s all you got in your bag Roy. You watched Pirlo running riot on your Team Yesterday but you chose to leave England Pirlo aka Paul Scholes at home. 61% possession to italy in the first half and still Carrick dont have his place in this team. United players have a winning mentality and seeing them play yest, i fear that you may have changed that also……

  395. Sandeep1878 says:

    Michael Owen tweets: Pirlo was awesome but we have a player of similar age and ability and unfortunately he wasn’t there.
    #Scholes.

  396. CedarsDevil says:

    Prasan

    You dip shit, heard you and the fellas are now considering going into toe sucking…..Forming a cult of sorts……..Do send us pictures, that should be some funny shit!! ha ha ha ha ha

  397. Sandeep1878 says:

    Prasan,

    afternoon mate and you start with a brilliant comment :)

    but just a correction,

    any battle against the sheep shaggers, Cedars is a winner, hands down and them with pants down :P ;)

  398. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Sandy the bugger tweets: Nigella’s thumb was awesome but we have a chick of similar age and “ability” and unfortunately she wasn’t there.
    # Megan Fox

  399. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    Looks like you are missing your big Tony Bee eh? :)

    dearey me :P

  400. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Cedars

    Afternoon my tit plumping friend, yeah, that should be some fun mate, I am thinking of slipping into Mike’s blue moon pyjamas for that shit. But still wouldn’t compare to the sheep shagging shit you enjoy! After all, that’s one thing in which you don’t have to fake an orgasm, the Baaaaaaa and Maaaaaaa come out automatically isn’t it? :D

    @ Sandeep

    Anybody who thinks Cedars is not a great sheep shagger needs to get their head tested!! Enough said.

  401. Sandeep1878 says:

    off now folks, heading for lunch, then home, see you all tomorrow..

    cheers

    Good day REDS :)

    Keep it RED and UNITED..

  402. CedarsDevil says:

    Frigging Indian buggers the lot of you………I am always out numbered on here. fucks sake there’s over a billion of you lot…………Where’s me Mikey when I need him….

    And yes, sheep shagging is an art, just ask any leeds fan!! ha ha

  403. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    On another note, how shit is Potty the fucking Parker and “park the ass” Andy Cartroll!!! And, Milner is a legend of sorts in giving the ball away! And, what the fuck was Joe Fart trying to do in the shootout? Trying to intimidate Pirlo with his antics? Pirlo’s penalty was a pisstake at him and England saying you simply ain’t good enough boys!

    So, with Young missing the penalty, he should be the #1 contender for being the scapegoat in this tournament for England. They’ll tell you, ohh we had an advantage and Young screwed it up by smashing it against the crossbar. Ashley Cole’s shit penalty would be explained as, Ohh he was trying to slot it in the right corner you see, just missed by a whisker! If they indeed slaughter Young for the miss, I bet he’s going to have a cracking season for United along with that Kagawabunga kid, who I am absolutely starting to adore!

  404. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    @ Sandeep

    Have a good lunch Sandy boy! Enjoy :)

  405. CedarsDevil says:

    Sandy

    Lunch then home? What line of work are you in mate? Its like only midday in India…….

    Anyway enjoy them thumbs pal

  406. CedarsDevil says:

    Prasan

    On a serious note (Not sure if I can ever be serious though!!) you are right about Young, he will be made a scapegoat, something United players are well used to by now…..Like you I really hope he will have a cracking season with us and silence all them ABU daft cunts……Something which Becks did very well after 98

  407. CedarsDevil says:

    I will eventually move and live in Sicily……Start my own branch of the Cedars mob…..Making ‘hits’ on the ABU’s out there for fun and making a few bob in the process……..Cyril will be my first recruit based on his experience in the field………..

  408. ahjs says:

    I don’t know what’s been said on Twitter but don’t think Ashley Young will come in for too much stick. All you can ask is that the players try and hopefully enjoy it. England did the best they could in this tournament and there really doesn’t seem to be the unrealistic expectations everywhere. That’s probably because all the eejits thought we’d win it with Redknapp, but not with Hodgson.

    Pirlo was great. Sure, you can try to mark him closer but a man of that class is going to find space. He’s in the top 10 midfielders I’ve seen with Zidane, Scholes, Laudrup, Iniesta etc and they make a living from finding space. He can swat the likes of Parker and Gerrard aside and forwards like Rooney are only going to do a limited job.

    You want better football? Produce better players. Germany started from the bottom after Euro 2000 and look at them now – a quality team with heaps of quality youngsters coming through. If they can just topple Spain they can dominate.

    And the Spanish style is negative in the sense they could destroy teams, but don’t. However, I do find it a bit funny that people in England talk about passing as the holy grail now, that we have to be better in possession yet the Spanish are masters of it and everyone slags them off. Now Spain are winning, they’re hated and now Germany don’t win people have warmed to them. In a sense I don’t blame Spain for that game against France because why should Spain try for 2,3 or 4 when France are so abject they don’t try to equalise? But Spain do need to lose, for the good of football. In 2008 they were entertaining but by playing with no strikers like they do now they’re taking the piss.

  409. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    I wouldn’t scapegoat any players but point out , collectively England once again under performed and for some reason it’s come as a shock.

    Milner,Young,Parker’s technical ability, Rooney, Carroll ability yesterday was shocking !

    Overall those players was of course shit but collectively worse. Ball retention was shit, Possession was 36%, no creativity from the middle, out dated 4-4-2….same old england.
    I won’t defend Young…or Welbeck or Rooney…this was England, they’ll get ripped into no matter what happens, all we can hope for is they give United 100% and learn from the experience.

    We will reap the benefits :D

  410. CedarsDevil says:

    Just read an article saying that eating lots of fruits and vegetables is good for you…. NO Fucking SHIT!!!

    Something that human kind have known for centuries………… Do these daft fuckers actually get paid for writing this pathetic bollocks???

  411. CedarsDevil says:

    Perhaps I should change my profession…. You know, get a job at some research centre and spend the next 50 years of my life chopping up tomatoes and finding out their benefits

  412. Jeet says:

    Yawn….

  413. Sandeep1878 says:

    Here is the ROM FB page update and we got one more Cedars fan ther, no suprise there, innit? ;)

    here is what he writes,

    “I’m a biggest fan of cedars, he’s got leadership quality. I’ve been reading ROM for aslong as I can remember n cerdars is always the inspiration at best, if u are reading this please tell the guy that I’m his biggest fan.”

    name: ChiKo Mondlane

    ###

    See you all tomorrow folks, cheers :)

  414. Brigadier19 says:

    Cedars

    I can see it now, you choppa the tomatoes on the back streets of Sicily, a Brigadier comes forth armed and dangerous whilst on one of his missions, and on the off chance that if you see a Leeds shirt you will go into a fit of temporary rage destroying the town in the process, then the Corleone’s make you president of the ABU Nation, Sicily Division. :)

  415. Brigadier19 says:

    Sandeep

    Arrivederci For Now :)

  416. CedarsDevil says:

    Brigadier19

    Ha ha ha……The Sicily Division!! Love it, you know if you keep playing nice I may, just may make you second in command!!!

    Sandy

    Is this for real? I feel so humbled…. Do pass on my hello to the fella

  417. Jeet says:

    Next thing you know Celebrity Cedars will be invited to participate in Big Brother, only to be voted out by the sheep :lol:

  418. CedarsDevil says:

    Told ya them Indian buggers had a scheme of sorts……….. Watch out folk, with General Jeet in command they are out to get us………As long as we stay together we can defeat them!!!! Believe me at your own peril

  419. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Sicily has a nice sound to it, similar to the sound of Cedar’s nurse’s name, “Leedie the Lily”!!! Now, I get why Cedars wants to settle there. I found an interesting link in this regard:

    http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/sicilianbarbary/index.htm

  420. denton davey says:

    BobbyCharlton’sCombover @ 7:28: “Welbeck did ok a times last night but he failed to control a few balls and his body language looked a bit negative after he had lost them.”

    I understand the need to try and protect UTD’s players from ABU criticism. However, let’s be honest – DannyTheLad had one of Ingerland’s two chances and sent the ball high, wide, and none-too-handsome. On the plus side, Welbeck was actually better than both TheWayneBoy and Ashley Young – both of whom were somewhere between-terrible-and-awful.

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