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GNev: Suarez Snub Hasn’t Helped Liverpool

Luis Suarez decided to snub Patrice Evra’s handshake ahead of today’s 2-1 victory over Liverpool. Given that Suarez was the guilty party, having been banned for eight games for racially abusing Evra, it is incredible that he opted to disrespect our captain again today.

However, this could have been predicted when you consider Suarez revealed this week that Evra was wrong to report the racial abuse he received.

“I was not depressed at all during suspension,” he said. “I knew what I did and there is a kind of football law that says, ‘What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch and that’s the end of the story’.”

Gary Neville has claimed that Suarez has put his football club in an even worse position now, with further criticism being levelled at him for snubbing the handshake.

“Obviously it’s quite clear that Luis Suarez has completely blanked Patrice Evra,” said Neville. “I’m not sure it’s the wisest thing for him to do. I’m not sure that he has helped his football club. I think that Kenny Dalglish is now put in a position after the game where he has to defend him again.”


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419 Comments

  1. kanchelskis says:

    @Ancha

    Exactly. There’s only so much you can prove your worth as a CB when you’re playing: a) behind the most efficient and exhausting midfield unit in the world, b) in the slower-paced, less physical La Liga, and c) against teams that – the top few aside – are just making up the numbers in the league.

    The PL gives you a thorough examination week in week out. I was at the match on Saturday and Jonny did it all – aerial battles, winning it on the ground, calmly moving it out of defence, physically handling Suarez when he backed into him. Top-quality display.

  2. smartalex says:

    ex MEN

    A football fan who shouted racist abuse at a Liverpool player during their clash at Manchester City has been banned from all matches for three years. He aimed a ‘disgraceful’ slur at Glen Johnson from the stands as the player took a throw-in at the Etihad Stadium. The comment referred to Johnson’s teammate Luis Suarez – the Uruguayan forward at the centre of the race-row involving United’s Patrice Evra.

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    The World is watching closely now that Evra has blown the lid off.
    LFC must be ruthless. Suarez should not play yet, if ever again.

    First, Suarez must admit to, and apologise for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

  3. Ancha says:

    Jeet

    Thanks buddy. It’s a curse of the country that we were born or connected to.

    68Devils

    It’s true and frankly surprising that when everything else in life is uninspiring, dull and dead, anything connected to Manchester United keeps me alive.

    Smartalex

    LFC – Blame all but not themselves club
    It was funny to watch their fans reaction after all the apologies

  4. olivertwist says:

    Liverpool have shown incredible loyalty to Suarez (Kenny Dalglish in particular) but was this blind loyalty? Perhaps. In a way it is commendable because they just could not believe that Suarez could be racist, but they will now have to accept that he made a mistake. Did he lie to all concerned at LFC when questioned about what was said on the pitch on 15th October last year? It seems so.

    Not shaking Evra’s hand on Saturday was a huge own goal on Suarez’s part and could yet hasten his exit from Anfield. We shall see.

  5. smartalex says:

    olivertwist

    Please sir, may we have some more?

    Sensible posters are warmly welcomed around these parts. Welcome! Post more!
    Tell me please: are you a United supporter?

  6. Sandeep1878 says:

    Smarty,

    I m good pal, Thanks.

    Ancha,

    Sorry to hear the sad news pal, lets hope you will be more stronger now.

    Cedars,

    funny and humorous as always..nice laugh on ur “signings jokes:”

  7. Brigadier19 says:

    Cedars, I certainly hope that Sneider doesnt arrive. He’s just a flat track bully who is far far overrated my son. He wants the Scholes role, but that’s a role that will be retired when he finishes playing because that role holds all exclusivity to the Ginger Prince. Loving Monseur Pogba and I really think he will be the real deal, as well as Cleverly. For me though the guy who really impressed me on Saturday was Danny boy, he’s got everything, pace power and a persona which befits the United way. I really do believe that next year will definitely be our year.

  8. DiegoForlanDK says:

    ATT: LFC’s fans defending Suarez and claiming Evra a liar:

    This case is really emotional, which doesn’t help anyone a bit. It’s a shame that everyone seems to know everything, although they really know nothing at all. Calling Evra a liar is just plain stupid and a very unfortunate attitude. BUT ABSOLUTELY THE MOST stupid and very unhealthy form of logic remains justifying Suarez racially abuse of Evra by claiming that Evra has played “a race-card” before. This is seen a lot of places currently.

    Just how childish is this? I almost cannot keep my thoughts focused on writing because of the anger caused by this sense of logic. If Evra ever, and that is a big if, wrongfully accused any opponent of being a racist, this is, of course, equally wrong. Evra have, to my knowledge, not ever been found guilty of such thing, which makes it a very disgraceful thing to claim. You accuse a man of a horrible lie, which he has not been found giulty of, but defend a man, who has been found guilty of racism? This undermines any legal security and is very undemocratic. Under any circumstances, even if Evra had done this, it would not make him less of a victim when being racially abused. Racism as a principle is wrong people! You can never defend racism just because your emotions is getting the better of your mind. This, however, seems to be the common logic of way too many LFC fans. Due the rivalry between the clubs and our fans, you lose track of common sense and justice and make it a matter of being right or wrong in your arguments with other fans.

    - Racism is not under any circumstances acceptable. This is, however, what you say by claiming Evra being a liar and playing a racist card.

  9. RedHarry4Life says:

    So it seems that Sorearse and the Klansmen are sorry for NOT shaking Evras hand.

    But not a word of apology for racially abusing him.

    Seems it is wrong not to shake someone’s hand before a game but it is acceptable to RACIALY Abuse them.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of modern day Klanfield.

    Always someone else’s fault

  10. smartalex says:

    Gus Poyet is glad peace has broken out between Liverpool and Manchester United over the Luis Suarez affair ahead of Albion’s FA Cup fifth round trip to Anfield on Sunday.

    The Seagulls’ chief said: “I’m pleased that it’s over, that Liverpool and Manchester United agree and the line is finished, because it was going too far.”

    Poyet, who acts as a mentor to Suarez, caused controversy earlier in the season by defending his fellow Uruguayan and labelling Evra a cry baby following the racism incident at Anfield.

    No more at:
    http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/9527478.Poyet_pleased_with_Suarez_truce/

    ‘Going too far’? What do you mean Poyet? What has gone too far? Who went too far?

    It was you Poyet! You went too far. Will you climb down, with an apology?

  11. olivertwist says:

    Smartalex,

    I’m actually a Villa fan, but I like to visit other fans sites to see what various opinions are especially on the hot topics, such as this one.

    I’m impartial so can manage to give a fair and objective viewpoint on the whole Suarez/Evra business. I feel a bit of sympathy for LFC as reading between the lines it is my belief that Suarez has been economical with the truth with his own club and Liverpool have thus felt that a hearing has taken the side of one man against another when (as they saw it) Evra made a false claim. Suarez has since admitted that he used the word “Negro” and insults were traded by both parties in the heat of the battle. Evra apparently insulting Suarez’s South American roots in Spanish.

    Suarez probably thought that what he said was tit for tat, but because it involved a comment about the colour of his opponents skin, he was seen to of over stepped the mark?

    Suarez, I guess feels totally hard done by for getting an 8 match ban for his part in the war of words , hence his actions on Saturday. What do you think?

  12. olivertwist says:

    I suppose that now Liverpool know that Suarez lied to them and also refused to shake Evra’s hand after telling Dalglish that he would do, he has now left the club with a decision to make.

    Do they sell thier best no7 since Dalglish himself because he has brought the integrity of the club into question? Or do they stick with him and hope the whole thing blows over?

    What should they do? What would other clubs do?

    It is said that loyalty is Dalglish’s “signature emotion” and I think that he is guilty of naivity for showing blind faith to a player he obviously believed in. Commendable but not without flaw. I guess we all live and learn.

    I would like Liverpool and Manchester United to make a joint statement to the worldwide football audience stating that although the rivalry between the two clubs will always be there, it should be made clear that respect for both clubs will be demanded from all players from both clubs for the greater good of football. The game needs this now and LFC must sell Suarez in the summer, in my opinion.

  13. smartalex says:

    Hansen wrote in the Telegraph: “What is so disappointing for Liverpool and Kenny Dalglish is that they have taken so much flak, Kenny in particular, for backing Suárez, yet when it comes to the crunch and he is asked to shake Evra’s hand but doesn’t do it, it is obvious that the club and the manager are going to feel let down.

    “Liverpool were totally right to respond with strongly-worded statements from Dalglish and managing director, Ian Ayre, following Suárez’s apology on Sunday.”

    “Manchester United should also be applauded for the swift and gracious acceptance, and wording, of their subsequent statement, urging everybody to move on.”

    “Hopefully, Evra will also come out and with a similar statement so that we can all draw a line under this.”

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    He says:

    a – LFC and Dalglish took flak for backing Suarez, how dare he let them down!
    b – LFC are totally right in their response.
    c – United should be applauded, for urging everybody to move on.
    d – Evra must swiftly be gracious by publicly accepting Suarez apology, and moving on.

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    a * Actually, LFC and Dalglish took flak for backing Suarez despite the overwhelming evidence that showed him to be an unrepentant racist and a devious liar.
    b * LFC were mostly right in their response during the 5 minutes that they uploaded the manufactured quotes. For the rest of the this sorry affair they have been miserably wrong. Pointing loudly at one good deed when herds of elephants have entered the room at your request is over-reaching, slightly.
    c * Hansen compliments United, for an action that helps Liverpool. What about the marvelous restraint shown by Patrice, Sir Alex, and all at United over the last month? We could have crucified them, yet the truth is United just want to move on, without LFC suffering any more. It’s not good for football, which is what we do.
    d * Before insisting that Evra must swiftly and graciously accept Suarez apology, someone will apparently need to urge Suarez to apologise. He’s hardly morally motivated from within. Say sorry, and Patrice will unreservedly forgive you Suarez.

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    Hansen has tried to seem fair in this regard, yet works relentlessly to hide the truths that must come out now, for LFC to move on unfettered by this festering mess.

  14. Redbilly says:

    The problem with a character like Suarez is just that, character. His behaviour during this racism issue , the handshake , diving , cheating and biting ect us simply another mark if the man.

    If hehad been a united player guilty if these offences ge and the club would gave been crucified and rightly so.

    As I said , it’s his character. Behaving like a mature fair minded adult is out if charCter for him. A scouse associate said to me he wi defend him to the hilt, especially if defending him against a united supporter but personally is embarrassed he supports a man of such poor judgement .

    He appears to be an individual who thrives on controversy , like maradonna but without that level of talent. Been in a couple of ratfield sites. Void of reality.

    To support united us a privilege the scouse, sadly can never experience.

  15. Redbilly says:

    Apologies for the typos. Ratface’s fault

  16. Redbilly says:

    On another note. Why is it every virgin fan says we are obsessed with their club?. Yes we probably discuss them more than the majority of other PL clubs but are they not our bitter rivals? . Do they discuss us any less?. Where us the evidence for their point of view?. Ahh, they don’t need any.

  17. Redbilly says:

    Fucking typos on my I phone. Vermin not virgin. That’s just wishful thinking

  18. denton davey says:

    I haven’t all of the most recent comments in this thread but I have read a fair-few of the ones from yesterday.

    What perhaps needs some further comment is the referee’s behaviour on Saturday.

    Did he not see Luis Suarez refuse to shake Patrice Evra’s out-stretched hand ?

    Did he not see Luis Suarez blatantly dive AFTER Rio beat him to the ball at the end of the first-half ? (This blatant dive is obvious from the slow-motion replays that show Rio nicking the ball and Suarez taking two more steps before falling over)

    Did he not see Luis Suarez kick the ball away ? (To be honest, I didn’t see him do that but plenty of others have commented on this action).

    Was Phil Dodd under instructions to use “common sense” so as to not inflame an already-incendiary situation ?

    These are really quite petty points that I’ve just made but in the context of Saturday’s match and its aftermath, they are not inconsequential. I wonder what the FA response to them will be – just as I wonder what their response to Patrice Evra’s post-match victory-celebration will be.

  19. smartalex says:

    olivertwist

    Suarez has been economical with the truth with his own club, but Liverpool were foolish if they felt that the hearing took the side of one man against another. They had only to read it, to be clear that was a falsehood.

    I doubt LFC saw it as: Evra made a false claim. They chose to see it that way for the option was available, and initially seemed credible as they thought Evra had previously made false allegations. Evra had not done so, yet once that fact was realised there was still no retraction by LFC, proving that their intent was only to cast doubt on the victim. Suarez has since admitted that he used the word “Negro” and insults were traded by both parties in the heat of the battle.

    It is categorically accepted by all parties including Suarez and his legal team that Evra was not insulting about Suarez’s South American roots.

    Suarez was racist to wind up Evra, cowardly to believe that his Uruguayan lie would save him.
    Suarez believes that he is entitled to be racist, and to lie, and to cheat, and to maim.

    He may not.

    ps There is yet another thread on this, so i may see you there!

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    I see we play Villa at Old Trafford on the 14th of April. Please be sure to give us some perspective closer to the time. Thanks!

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