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GNev: Suarez Snub Hasn’t Helped Liverpool

Luis Suarez decided to snub Patrice Evra’s handshake ahead of today’s 2-1 victory over Liverpool. Given that Suarez was the guilty party, having been banned for eight games for racially abusing Evra, it is incredible that he opted to disrespect our captain again today.

However, this could have been predicted when you consider Suarez revealed this week that Evra was wrong to report the racial abuse he received.

“I was not depressed at all during suspension,” he said. “I knew what I did and there is a kind of football law that says, ‘What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch and that’s the end of the story’.”

Gary Neville has claimed that Suarez has put his football club in an even worse position now, with further criticism being levelled at him for snubbing the handshake.

“Obviously it’s quite clear that Luis Suarez has completely blanked Patrice Evra,” said Neville. “I’m not sure it’s the wisest thing for him to do. I’m not sure that he has helped his football club. I think that Kenny Dalglish is now put in a position after the game where he has to defend him again.”






 

419 Comments

  1. Kace Kun says:

    First!

  2. Anon Payn says:

    Suarez is just a whinging baby at this point. He didn’t get his way and is now throwing his toys out of the pram.
    Do I believe he is racist? No.
    Did he say something that upset our player deeply enough to complain to the ref about it? Definitely.
    He admitted to calling Evra a ‘negro’, and got punished for it.
    Dalglish and Suarez are both hugely immature and not fit to be at this level of football. Especially Dalglish, who has been out of the Premier League for nearly 2 decades. It’s not the same cup of tea anymore. The League is much bigger and more professionally run than ever before. And he hasn’t evolved like Fergie. But I doubt he will be sacked, the owners will need balls of steel coz of the backlash they will face from the mob. Think they will realize they have shot themselves in the foot here.

  3. Anon Payn says:

    Off topic:
    If Real win tomorrow, the top 3 in Spain will be separated by 21 points. Why don’t they just flip a coin at the beginning of each season and hand the trophy to Real or Barca? The La Liga is a joke, and it’s unfair to the German, Englis and Italian clubs who have to compete with the Spanish in Europe and at the same time play in tougher and more draining games week in week out in their own leagues as well!

    Rant over.

  4. tom c says:

    K(ace)K(un)

    it’s not legit if you don’t actually post something that means anything.

  5. DKB07 says:

    Look I hate Liverpool as much as the next guy, but you have to agree with SAF, even by Liverpool’s dirty standards – Suarez is a disgrace.
    World Cup ruining,
    Ear Biting,
    Cheating,
    Parker-kicking-in-the-stomach-(ing),
    Racist Cunt.

    I felt like punching my mate who was supporting Suarez’s actions today, anyone who thinks Suarez was in the right today doesn’t know anything about the beautiful game.

  6. Samuel says:

    Both Suarez and Dalglish need to grow up and just be smart about it..there is nothing wrong with an apology for something you have been found guilty off,..it will simply end the case and we all can move on..this is not good for liverpool (not like i wish the best for them) but we trying to enjoy football without any negativity!!

  7. wayne says:

    Suarez seem’s like a all around horrible cunt to me,don’t understand why people who don’t know him say he isn’t a racist based on what? hasn’t shown me fuck all to believe he isn’t.

  8. MEXICO is RED says:

    The picture on this post was edited by EPL. This is the correct picture:

    http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/WWIIRAFPilot/Evra-Suarez.jpg

  9. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    I wise man once said pigs wear blue.

  10. Paul Parker says:

    That comment about “football law” caught my eye as well Scott – isn’t he talking about the outdated racist norms that the FA are spending our money allegedly trying to fight? I’d like to know why he isn’t be further punished for refusing to acknowledge that he’s done anything wrong. In fact him and his manager both suggested the FA and Evra are the ones bang out of order, so its hard to decide which LFC representative is bringing the game further into disrepute. Liverpool really are scrapping the barrel with this one, and no doubt they will continue to blame everybody but themselves. Suarez could be the nail in the coffin for that Club, and his LFC goal record could end up like his solitary effort today – a poor fucking consolation.

    Seriously, what happened to just holding your hands up & saying “yes I was bang out of order and im sorry”. Fucking hell is it that hard for these “blokes” ???? Its pathetic, and LFC want to be careful they don’t throw themselves into an abyss over this one, they’re already a long long way from bettering 18.

    @Anon Payn – too right he hasn’t evolved mate, he acts like he’s in the wrong fucking decade! More than ever before I actually look forward to seeing him get the sack so he can fuck off back to obscurity.

    And to think they wanted to put him forward for a knighthood – will he kneel before the queen wearing that Suarez t-shirt? Fucking joker.

  11. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Just like to point out BBC have said Welbeck refused to shake Suarezs hand and that isn’t the case at all. Just seen it again on Sky. Bullshit BBC, very interested on whats going to be said on MOTD.

  12. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Feel honestly overwhelmed by the dishonor that Liverpool FC have brought to the English game. What an imposible situation they are in. One of their top players has lost the plot. Their manager seems honor bound to follow him down the crapper. Bernstein won praise for putting his foot down re JT, he and theFA would do some good for all of the game if they came in and got this sorted. Sooner the better.

    How bad is it? Seems that even Liverpool fan sites are criticizing KingKenny for his post match. Really sad for football. http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/02/does-kenny-dalglish-really-expect.html

  13. samuel - united WE stand says:

    If referring to a man by his colour isn’t racist then i don’t know what is.

    I’ve seen people come out various types of bullshit excuse. From him having a black gran-father to him being allowed to call people “Negro” in uruguay.

    People that make up excuses for the twat are either blinkered idiotic pool fans or pure ignorants. Pick which one you are.

  14. CedarsDevil says:

    I am pretty certain that Welbeck shock the cunt’s hand.

    To be honest this is a sad state of affairs, whilst we should be focusing on the game this whole hand shaking bollocks has stolen all the headlines.

  15. MG says:

    Cedars

    I wish Welbeck did shock his hands – fucker would have been fried right there and then :lol:

    Evening Cedars you Devil you ;)

  16. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Cedars – They have edited the video now but early on in the day thats what that cunt Pearce had said. While you are right I want it to take the headline, the vermin have behaved appallingly during all of this making slanderous accusations and also undermining the authorites which we would never get away with. I want them to fry for this and by drawing a line under it that won’t happen.

    This is far worse and severe than the whole Wayne Bridge thing. vermin FC led the whole world to believe nothing was going to happen today. Someone is telling porkies.

  17. torontored says:

    Would be fucking funny if the next time we played them if all the United players had one of those little shock buttons on their hands – could you just imagine the look on Suarez face and KKK would be demanding the guillotene or the gulag

    What a sad bunch of twats these scouse bastards have become – what is really ironic is that back in the British Invasion Days of the USA The Beatles (in case you forgot a Liverpool band) demanded no racial segregation of the audience (typical back then especially in the South – Atlanta in particular)

    King Curtis and his band were back up

    Bunch of slave trading hypocrits

    Fucking sick bunch of cocksucking turds

  18. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Liverpool and Chelsea will be remembered long if handshakes are scuppered.

  19. MOPHILS says:

    I’ve been trying hard to look at this from all reasonably angles, and my conclusion is this guy is really an IDIOT. And a massive one at that. The painful aspect is, Dalglish stands beside him like a man who swore “for better, for worse, for ever,” to his bride.
    Initially, it was just my respect dalglish lost, but right now, its a lot more than just myrespect he’s lost.

  20. CedarsDevil says:

    Why good evening MG, so refreshing to have you back my friend…

    NRD – They edited the footage? Fuck me, that is low

  21. MG says:

    Thank you Cedars

    Life was never the same without the Lebanese midas touch ;)

  22. WillieRedNut says:

    It’s Paddy Evra’s fault.

    It’s Manchester United’s fault.

    It’s Sky sports news fault.

    Always the victim, it’s never their fault! 19

  23. Costas says:

    Hasn’t helped? They are perfect for each other. Watch how they’ll come out with more t-shirts with his ugly mug next week.

  24. CedarsDevil says:

    Its actually my fault……. Sorry

    Good night REDS. Top of the league, where we belong

  25. Costas says:

    Have to say. It’s gut wrenching watching Fletcher as a pundit. He should be fighting our battles on the pitch. Not on Sky Sports’ studio. Didn’t deserve this.

  26. brisbanefan says:

    ‘He admitted to calling Evra a ‘negro’’

    Then Suarez is a RACIST if that’s the sort of language he uses.
    BTW, where did he think that racist words like that are acceptable in this country?
    At LFC’s training ground probably.

  27. Costas says:

    This link shows the handshake twice in slow motion:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1IjMngWszI

    The fact that anyone at Liverpool FC (fan, player or manager) would imply that Evra pulls his hands away first is disgraceful. It’s bad enough that they are scum. Now they are trying to bring everyone else down to their level.

  28. Redlife says:

    Ho ho ho. Is it xmas? Seems like it with all these gifts Liverfool are handing out. The club that keeps on giving.

    GNev is right, so I hope Dogleash doesn’t follow his advice. It seems Kenny has lost his marbles and the plot, judging from that sky interview. He’s doing a good impression of the fat spanish waiter…he’s cracking up.

  29. WillieRedNut says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2099929/Comment-Kenny-Dalglish-reduced-scowling-sneering-bar-room-bully.html?

    Ouch! Very true though. The T – shirt debacle was a shocker for Liverpool FC. They haven’t learned a thing from then till now. Shanks would be appalled.

  30. Costas says:

    “The man is reduced to a scowling, sneering presence. Every time he opens his mouth, he seems to grow a little smaller.”

    Talk about hitting the nail on the head.

  31. kev e says:

    wrn. just about to post daily mail link… really good article. perhaps the tide is turning finally, can’t believe it’s taken so long… even Hansen on MOTD looked ashen faced even though he couldn’t quite say it like it is…

  32. Utd4life says:

    GNev saying it like it is. I bet GNev would not have shook that cunt’s hand today.

  33. eddieTheRed says:

    Liverpool is a rudderless ship without a captain drifting in the current and none of the shipmates aboard has the guts to take the wheel and plot a course.

    What are they going to do when they finish out of the top four and out of Europe for the third season in a row – spend more money? Blame somebody else? Make King Kenny walk the plank?

    What are they going to do when Pepe Reina gets sick of being a loser and walks away in the summer? What are they going to do when Neverpool becomes the most hated and despised club in Britain and other teams would rather take a point off them than take one off United, Arsenal or Chelsea?

    They should scrape that Liver bird and all that rubbishey advertising off their jersey and replace it with a logo for “Dalglish’s Freak Show” – because that’s what it is! As long as Kenny enjoyed the game, Kenny liked the players and Kenny had his precious ego rubbed up the right way – to hell with Liverpool and their fans – as long as Kenny got what Kenny wanted then everything’s alright with the world???

    Thank God I follow United and not this horrible, unfeasible, miserable ship of fools masquerading as a football team!

  34. Ed_Red says:

    That twat is a disgrace for all southamericans. While it’s true that “negro” has 2 meanings here, it’s obvious that it was used in a despective and racist way. Nobody is stupid enough to believe that he was being friendly…..Dogleash actitude was idiotic as well, Our Fergie has already talked about Paddy’s celebration, while he is still defending the undefendable.

    Luis Suarez and LFC
    Always the victim, it’s never their fault!!

  35. NorRed says:

    I find the situation unreal. Suarez has damaged Liverpool whatever the scouse may rave about. Why not just say sorry right after the match he offended Evra or shake his hands today? Why didn’t Liverpool release a statement saying “we don’t condone this”? Why “t-shirt-gate”? They really fucked it up. If Suarez had been a United player I would have been furious. Ferguson would also have axed a player putting United through this. The best part is to read the forums where Liverpool supporters shame themselves.

    Bloody hell, I’m glad an United fan.

  36. Paul Parker says:

    Lol@Cedars – yeah its my fault too mate, I don’t know what I was thinking?

    @Willierednut – John Barnes is such a fucking tool its unreal.

    Who, pray tell, told Liverpool to slander Evra, print offensive t-shirts, release statements denying responsibility and accuse United of a fucking conspiracy? Further more who the fuck told Suarez to refuse Evra’s hand and criticise him for speaking out about racism? Do me a favour, somebody needs to tell Dalglish, Barnes or whoever that its finally time to man the fuck up and move on.

    Anyway, let them keep talking. We battered them and got all 3 and thats all that matters. Thank fuck I wasn’t born a Liverpool supporter, I’ve never seen anything like it in all my days.

    @brisbanefan – thats actually a good point about the training ground mate!

    @Ed Red – good post. When Obama was publicly called the same word by a Honduran diplomat what happened? The offending politician was first ordered to apologise immediately or risk being blown the fuck up with predator drones, then he was forced to resign in disgrace, thats what happened! Goes to show how disingenuous the press really are. The Obama incident established a cast-iron precedent for whether the word used by Suarez was offensive or not but I personally didn’t hear about it till after Suarez was charged! No wonder these blind LFC supporters exist, the unscrupulous characters directing the Media won’t bring them out of the dark ages so its all Evra/Sky/Ferguson/the FA’s fault, isn’t it? Sad really.

  37. Paul Parker says:

    Lets see how City react tomorrow. Can Robbie Keane leave the EPL on a winning note? I’d be happy with a 0-0 to be honest! Top result today our squad must be buzzing after that. Three points off LFC, top of the table and Ajax in Europa next week, doesn’t get any better than this in 2011/2012!

    Laters RoM.

  38. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Evra stood up. Looked Suarez square in the eye and the suarez just wilted. Pathetic worm of a man.

    Tell me Glen Johnson doesn’t now get questioned for his fiber. Good footballer and upstanding lad. How can Johnson look england teammates in the eye and say he understands or supports this.

    Gary Nev talking straight up. Liverpool owners have got to step in or team going to be affected. Had a golden chance to turn the corner and completely blew it.

    I was honestly convinced this would be past us today. Now the FA have to act if Liverpool doesn’t step in. Starting to sense Kenny has no earthly clue.

  39. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Finished watching MOTD. Fair play to Hansen condemning Suarez actions and putting to bed the myth that Evra pushed his hand away. Same goes for Shearer.

    Don’t agree with them having a pop at Evra celebrating with their fans especially as I’ve seen Shearer do it when the barcodes have beaten Sunderland.

    Daily Mail has actually written something succinct and something I agree with for a change, cheers for the link Willierednut.

    Sunday Supplement should be intriguing tomorrow, usually I don’t watch this tripe but on this occasion I want to see how the media will try and partially blame us as well. Even though we have done nothing wrong.

  40. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Today was a bad day for me personally.

    - Had a verbal fight with 2 liverpool fans calling Evra a bastard
    - My mates siding with Sewerez saying Evra turned down Sewerez first…B/S.
    - Had a physical fight with some guy, won it and nearly got arrested.

    It was good the PC thought we was mates having a scuffle.
    3 points in the bag, but a bad taste in my mouth.

    Liverpool could have had class and handled this sensitively but they just couldn’t resist.
    Sad day for football when an innocent man is vilified for speaking out against racial abuse.

  41. MG says:

    Here are some off to bed thoughts:

    Gary Neville for all his perceived bias and hatred of everything other than United is the most refreshing commentator of football since well since Gary Neville – eat your heart out smash it and tuck it ;)

    The lie that liverpool continue to perpetuate is sickening. Papii and those that mentioned it are right – a man is still being ripped to pieces because he spoke of racism – he is being held out to dry over a rivalry of which in truth their is none – liverpool are not Manchester United’s rivals anymore – we’ve actually finished off with them and that’s it.

    That’s the bit liverpool cannot understand – they can fuck themselves and keep their 5 european cups we have our 19 titles too.

    The hatred of liverpool fans is quite sickening and beyond consideration – God where are the families of Paisley and Shankly? – how the fuck can they tolerate this bullshit – this hatred – why hasn’t someone from lfc put lfc into place? This is the worst thing – they all have believed the lie – barnes mcmahon – you name it they are feeding the world the lie that suarez hasn’t done anything wrong

    They along with their brothers have muddles the waters. They have ripped the line that people stand on to pause and think about things. They continue with the sections of the media who are enjoying this supposed nonsense to complete a fabrication and tarnish a man because apparently he is no Angel – then which fucking footballer is?

    Everyone makes mistakes to continually use this Evra is no angel fucking bullshit is bollocks.

    It is a sad day for football – and well I don’t really care for lfc so I don’t give a fuck – if they want to drive the club into the gutter so be it – but I bet there are fans out in the real world of lfc that do give a shit – I hope they can speak up and save their club, because at the moment I wouldn’t even fucking get out of bed for it let alone supposedly never let it walk alone.

    19

  42. MG says:

    Another point:

    Suarez kicked the fall furiously towards the United bench – at that point Dowd should have red carded him for reasons pretty clear – because at any other time had he done that that would have been a yellow

    I am surprised no one is talking about that.

    Anyways it’s goodnight time 19

  43. torontored says:

    believe that it is morally ethical to be “intolerant of intolerance” and that any means neccesary are warranted to stamp out racism

    The last two minutes or so of this tune put it in perspective

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3MxuDk7wqo

    In the next one King Kenny and Suarez are clearly visible as Grand Wizards

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFw4VEZ8G4

    Fuck me the scouse blogs still are sticking by Klu Klux Kenny – the poor deluded cunt is as blind as a bat or a member of the SS (camps what camps? – but we did have a great train system)

    Frankly Mr Shankly/Bob Paisley, if still alive would be ill if they saw what happened today

    Liverpool will be out of Europe again this season and probably the next two or three – that in itself is just as good as it gets

    Just watched the replay we fucking hammered them for 80 minutes – the one problem for United – lots of foreplay need more penetration

    Mcmanaman did acced to the Suarez handshaking incident – but fuck me listening to him whine around the 75 minute mark was as good as it gets, suicide / cyanide pills – I do get out East once in a while and it must have been exstatic to have heard what ESPN/Star Sports watchers would have heard listening to McMahon

    UNITED20 – 2012 (and maybe The Europa Cup)

  44. torontored says:

    Jerry Springer has just anounced Suarez and Dalgliesh will be on his KKK/USA Nazi Special Show to be broadcast in the next few weeks – special train schedules will be announced shortly

  45. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Gordon Taylor is not best pleased with Liverpool, Daglish, let alone the pathetic Suarez

    “I feel sick to the stomach that there were mascots who go on the pitch w players…”

    “It is a matter for the [Liverpool] owners. This has to be dealt with at the highest level to resolve this festering mess.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17000125

  46. NBI Red Onion says:

    Terry is a thug, but he would have shaken Evra’s hand – Terry > Suarez – JEEEEEZ!

    Suarez is a spoilt brat and his Club have encouraged it. By the way on other threads people said Rooney did not back Evra enough post match interview. Rooney put his arm around Evra after handshake incident before play started. Also I am sure the Club told him not to comment on it as they told all players, which is sensible given the heat of the occassion. Rio’s comments came a while later and he was explaning his own actions. The Club is trying to cool things and be the bigger man, which it is ofcourse.

    What pissed me off was Agger and Adam coming to rough up Evra when he was celebrating – WTF. Who the hell are they. Get down the tunnels and piss of you thugs.

    THREE points AND Liverpool beaten AND Suarez and Liverpool humiliated themselves world over AND we are top of the league. A JOB WELL DONE. THANKS GOD.

  47. KR says:

    Loved every minute of Evra coming to our end and shoving it down Suarez’s throat. If i was in the first row of the stretty i would’ve smashed that racist cunt in his dirty rat toothed face.

    Like i said Patrice Evra is a player Manchester United can be proud of, a true red in every sense like Gary Neville himself.

  48. KR says:

    I wish nothing but bad on Suarez and LFC, i hope that racist gets both his legs snapped in two and his career is flushed down the drain so he can back to Uruguay and live with his 3rd world mates calling black people ‘negro’.

  49. King Eric says:

    Well. Early hours feed.

    NEVER heard the dippers as quiet as today.

    Watched the game when got home and was Redknapp REALLY suggesting Rio should have walked. Fucking idiot. The words straws, at and clutching come to mind. Good to see Nev and Fletcher who by the way looked really well almost laughing at the cunt. Nice one lads.

    Jonny and Danny were superb yesterday.

    Well that will shut Ian St John and Fairclough up who on fridays nights LFC Tv said we would get beat and were in a false position. What? The table don’t lie you fucking deluded cunts. They said City would be streets ahead but for injuries. What fucking planet do these clowns live on? Injuries? What you mean fucking suspensions for ill discipline. Have a look at our injuries you muppets. They said Liverpool are at our level. 18 points suggests otherwise.

    Goodnight.

    UNITED will wrap up 20 in May.

    Pound to a penny Stevie Me gets same marks as Scholes in tomorrows rags. He couldn’t live with him and Paul has six years on him.

    Also my mortgage the cunts on abu sunday supp have a pop at Pat and Fergie. Fucking do one. Especially the gorilla a like Martin Samuel who will be no stranger to racism being a writer for the Mail and a West Ham fan. Fuck off.

  50. King Eric says:

    Eddiethered. Top post.

    NRD. Hello mate. Didn’t read any posts prior to commenting. Seems we will both be watching Sunday Supp. Oliver Holt too is on. That whining Emily Bishop cunt will have a pop.

  51. King Eric says:

    What an absolute blinding tackle by Phil Nev on Cole leading to Everton`s second goal.

  52. King Eric says:

    Just watched your on sky sports. Fucking seething. Arsenal fans and cunts having a right pop at united and Fergie. Said Fergie is a bully and never gets into trouble. Fuck off you busy cunts. How’s about a five game ban last year? Shortsighted cunts. Saying fergie sees what he wants to. That’s rich coming from Arsenal fans. Worst discipline in prem era. Fucking cunts. Worry about your own sides. They hate the fact we aint going anywhere. Even having pops at Rio and Danny for not shaking hands. Fuck off. Why should they? Why the fuck are these cunts concerning themselves with United? Kudos to Cundy for siding with us for once.

  53. rohan19 says:

    Torres was really asking questions of Everton today.

    Like ‘Can you move your keeper out the way, I’m trying to score?’

  54. rohan19 says:

    I’ve spotted Chelsea’s cunning plan.

    You don’t have to worry about UEFA financial fair play rules if you’re not in Europe.

  55. YorYor says:

    Now this is a good one, especially with it coming from a Gunners PLAYER.

    http://i.imgur.com/h4Rp5.jpg

  56. rohan19 says:

    great great performance yesterday. evra was specifically brilliant. keeping his composure and all.
    one of my mates thinks it was daglish’s idea for suarez to not shake evra’s hand. that way evra would be wound up and make mistakes. pathetic if true. and actually makes sense.
    kinky kenny’s been given too many liberties. he’s destroying their pathetic excuse of a club.

    interestingly scholari was sacked on 9th feb 2009 after losing to everton. hopefully roman won’t sack avb. the current Tragi-comedy on at chelski is an absolute eye-candy

  57. TKP says:

    Yes lads… it’s all tribalism isn’t it?

    Fergie and all you people in lock-step with him is so out of touch. This is not a ‘racism’ issue at all – and both Fergie and Evra know it. They saw a way to trying and hang Suarez and LFC – and they took it. Suarez is part black and has done a lot of charity work in the slums of South America. He is not racist, the FA says his not racist, Evra said he didn’t think he was racist – but Fergie keeps banging on about racism. What we saw today was the inability of Suarez to capitulate (again) in the moment. He’s paid his fine, done his time, and been vilified in the English press as the poster boy of racism – in the biggest country of bigots and thugs. That hurts! He was forced to drop his appeal, watched as Terry and Ferdinand were let off the handshakes, and now expected to kowtow to a sneering Evra. He is foolish and petulant – but he’s 24 years old. Now we have Fergie talking about him as if he were a murderer needing to be taken out. This is why Dalglish is angry – it’s political and it’s machiavellian. The media want their little foreign immigrant scapegoat to absolve England of its history of hooligan ugliness. The whole thing is a farce and I can’t believe all these pious, sanctimonious comments I’m reading.

  58. NBI Red Onion says:

    This incident is ugly. Evra is a sensitive guy, you could see the tension in the way he acted at the end, he has been called a liar and all kinds of things by LFC and said NOTHING back.

    Also not to forget when they beat us at Anfield in the Cup Suarez in the stands was jumping around like a hyena on heat.

    I was looking at some comments below articles in the papers which soundly condemn Suaraz though some also criticise Evra’s post match celebration. The comments are 50-50 split!!! Alot of Evretonians backing Suarez and saying Evra pulled hand away and grabbed Suarez – actually de gea pulled Suarez arm to Evra and Evra was reaching out to try to settle the matter with a handshake.

    Evra has clearly been affected by this. He is not a confrontational guy and after the France thing his form dipped and he has had a rough ride with this. It would have been nice to draw a line, but I hope he can now move on and relax into his football. I hope he felt the love from OT yesterday and that has put his soul to rest on this issue. Come on Evra, he is not worth it, we love you, just enjoy your game and dont let the hyena affect you, he is finished now, who the hell would endorse Suarez, Liverpool sponsors must be on the phone to the Club after this especially link KKK with Liverpool…hopefully they lose sponsorship…and I am sure their US owners will live the KKK link. Dagleish is also classless, he is worse than Aresene in blind defence of the indefensible, as much, if not more than Suarez who is only 25, Dagleish has lit the fuel on this issue too many times, provoking instead of placating and moving things on. He never let this settle.

  59. Red Van Nistelrooy says:

    Brilliant write up about the disgraceful Dogleash!!

    LFC and Dogleash – Outraged by everything, ashamed of nothing!!!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/11/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez

  60. Ironbrand says:

    Some people are born United through and through, some people are made or converted to United. We should appreciate the calamity of being born a loserpool fan and the grave of being able to love and support United, the greatest club dans le monde!

  61. Ironbrand says:

    *grace*

  62. dela says:

    A text I received from a Scouse colleague.

    ‘Look at it in slow motion. Evra clearly pulls his hand away while Luis offered his hand. Then Evra acts like a victim and creates a scene. I’m sure Fergie taught him that. What the two clubs need is restraint, which is what King Kenny has shown throughout this episode. Whiskeynose has gone and chosen to make a mountain out of a molehill.’

    Delusion, thy name is LFC.

  63. Utd4life says:

    dela. Scousers aka racist twats and their blind faith. Match made in heaven. He is going to drag them through the gutter while he is here. KKK has absolutely no class or dignity. He is an ape man living in a modern world. CUNT is the word to describe him and that other fuck whose name I won’t say.

  64. rohan19 says:

    that message sums up the cheap liverpool mentality

  65. Utd4life says:

    Just saw the extended highlights and L’pool were absolutely dire. They created fuck all till the 89th min or so. Pathetic football club run by a deluded cunt. They spend 100 mil and what is their league position? Oh yes, a mighty 7th. I’m sure they will get overtaken by Norwich and everton. Carroll, teletubby adams, henderson, downing-world class pub players. LFC, hope you enjoy many more years of missing out on the CL.

  66. Sandeep1878 says:

    Fucking cunt Suarez and even more cunt is Kenny with his useless defence..

    LFC are kidding, they will be fucked big time..

    over 900 million people watching and the cunt rejects the hand shake..

  67. dela says:

    Utd4life

    The two are made for each other, aren’t they? Kunt Kenny saying that nothing had happened and it was all a bit of ‘banter’. Talk about living in denial.

    Next thing you know, Gus Poyet will tell us that not shaking someone’s hand is a friendly gesture back home in Uruguay.

  68. Utd4life says:

    It is only because of their history and patrons like Shankly and Paisely that LFC command respect. Else, LFC are comprised of a bunch of racist, ignorant twats. Messages such as the one posted by dela and others like “Suarez, YNWA”, “We love you Suarez”. Are you fucking kidding me?? What do these morons have for food?? Dog shit. And the ultimate one which I read on some article was “Evra, get over it cry baby”. Guess, racially abusing someone is alright in Scouseland. Fuck me, I’m still angry here. Motherfucking scouse twats. They can all burn in hell. People who think racially abusing someone is alright have no right to live. Fuck off Suarez. Seriously Fuck Off. Hope you rot in hell, you fucking sorry excuse for a human being.

  69. Sandeep1878 says:

    thats 2 games in a row..two match winning saves..De Gea u fucking beauty..

    #####

    by the way this time around i got 11 out of 11 in line up prediction :)

    Bang on :P

  70. Utd4life says:

    dela. Banter, my ass. Guess someone should have knocked out KKK and Suarez. After all it’s just friendly banter, isn’t it? The delusion they live in is quite scary. I hope to God that the children these scouse fucks reproduce aren’t as ignorant as the current lot. The only reason they are remembered is because of their history. Fuck their history. When was the last time they won the PL?? Yes, 20 years or so. Keep banging on about your 5 european cups. It won’t be long before we overtake that as well. Only a matter of time you thick, deluded scouse twats. SAF won’t sleep till he takes UTD past L’pool. He will make sure that L’pool are remembered like Leeds. A has been big club who have achieved fuck all in the last 20-25 years. FUCK OFF LFC.

  71. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    how are you my friend..

    the first thing i did after the no hand shake incident was – a ranting text to King Eric :)

    and by the way, dont know how but my instincts had said that we would start this game with Giggsy and Scholesy..i somehow figured this game required more blood, more know how to do and more experience in the derby..

    by the way, Rafael has improved a lot, was immense in the game..lets hope he will continue to work hard..

    that Suarez goal was unlucky, soft, but still we could have avoided it..

    thats the only disappoint for me, not the conceding but to the player we have conceded…

    ####

    and did any one see our Phil Neville running down the wings to pull off a fine a cross?

    he is still the quality and i love him…gone but not forgotten..

  72. Marq says:

    @Anon Payon

    You mentioned the La Liga is uncompetitive that they might as well flip a coin to decide who between Real or Barca should win the title? I think if you offer it to Barca now they will bite your hand off it. Real is on course to be 10 points ahead by tonight. A certain Mourinho is doing the seemingly impossible of overhauling Barca, and have stayed out of the headlines for that matter, kudos to him.

    On topic,
    Yea, I would like to hear from the likes of Poyet and those who supported Suarez all this time, and see what they have got to say now.

    Just for measure of class,

    Sir Alex says Evra was wrong to celebrated infront of Suarez

    Did Daglish even suggest Suarez did something wrong? No even a hint. A racist and ill mannered player is now even bigger than the club such that their manager has to do everything in his means to keep that player happy? How far they have fallen…

  73. Sandeep1878 says:

    this is the HD of hand shake snub..

    what is Fletcherinho doing along side RedNev in the skysports? :)

  74. Marq says:

    Oh and one more thing, as Sandeep mentioned.

    De Gea made another great save late in the game, against Johnson I think, almost a mirror image of the save he made against Cahill. Credit goes to him as well. It would have been sick to the stomach if that had gone in and let that racist have something to celebrate.

  75. Sandeep1878 says:

    Here is the link to that match winning save…

    sorry for the poor quality video..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHw96ak7qmU

    we all know that Anfield save by De Gea..

    on the contrary, the lad has pulled off stunning saves of long distance shots this season..

  76. Utd4life says:

    Sandeep. Thanks for the link mate. That was a great fingertip save from De Gea. He got us the 3 points with that save. So, in effect he has got us 4 points from Chelsea and L’pool matches. Now, where on earth is TG? The guy whose granny is supposedly better than De Gea.

  77. Sandeep1878 says:

    Utd4life..

    welcome pal,

    may be TG is gonna to check his granny now :)

  78. Costas says:

    Don’t worry about TG lads. He’ll be here the next time De Gea makes a mistake. The plastics are not hard to predict..

  79. Costas says:

    So any updates from Sunday Supplement? Did they condone Suarez’s reaction? Did they eat a lot of croissants, as King Eric once accused them of doing? :lol:

  80. byron1970 says:

    Personally I don’t see any problem with criticising De Gea in the past. There’s nothing wrong with some constructive criticism of one of our own players. There can be no denying the he has had an absolute horror show on a number of occasions this season. That said, he has looked better in our last two games with him pulling off what will probably be the save of the season against Mata. All in all he didn’t have a lot to do yesterday, but that’s not his problem, what he had to do he did it well. I for one did criticise him because I felt the need to and to get it off my chest. I never suggested he be sold or anything of the sort but we as fans have every right to point out the obvious flaws in our own players. I also think Giggs didn’t play well yesterday but that doesn’t mean I don’t think he his a United legend who clearly spends his time between games recovering in the Fortress of Solitude (Superman’s home on earth for the non-nerds amongst us).

    On another note, Rafael was outstanding again yesterday. Admittedly he had a couple of dodgy passes here and there but all in all was brilliant. I love this guy, and he should be our first choice right back all day long when everyone’s fit.

    It also annoys me when the likes of Alan Hansen gets paid thousands of pounds to point out to us less informed football supporters that Johnny Evans was excellent yesterday inspite of the fact that he’s our fifth choice centre half. He’s been our best defender all season and is not last in the pecking order regardless of what Mr Hansen says. Only Evra, Nani and Rooney are ahead of him with Premiership starts this season, so please Hansen at least do some research to justify the ridiculous wages you command.

  81. 12 cantonas says:

    what do we expect from a racist bastard ?!

  82. Costas says:

    @byron

    I heard that comment. It doesn’t do Hansen any favors. Has he watched any of our games this season? I get the point about Rio and Vida, but Jonny was never 5th choice this season. Fergie always fancied him as a CM ahead of Jones and Smalling. And he’s had a very good season. His best since 08-09.

    As for De Gea, we were only making fun of a poster who came here on Friday calling David a clown, blaming him for all of Chelsea’s goals last week (!) and then saying his grandmother would do a better job in goal. Critisism is fine. But that was idiocy.

  83. King Eric says:

    Sandeep. Morning pal.

    Costas. Hello mate. Not on till nine thirty my friend. Don’t know If I can stomach the bile to be honest as we all know what stance that Holt cunt and sheephead Woolnough will take. Will let NRD report.

    On Barca I know prior to last night game they were 7 behind but it appears Pep had already thrown the towel in resting Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas. Fuck sake Pep where is the fight or don’t Barca like having to play catch up perhaps? Terry fatty Gibson “the young lads have done fantastically well for Pep tonight”. Err not well enough Tel considering they got beat by a team last time out they put EIGHT past. The worm is turning.

  84. smartalex says:

    34 minute highlights
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xokdkw_manchester-united-v-liverpool_sport

    Well done United! Well done Patrice!

  85. byron1970 says:

    Strange thing about De Gea is that I can remember a point in the game yesterday, it was a corner liverpool had in the first half, when I actually thought to myself that David looked bigger/taller than what I’ve seen him. I don’t know if this is an actual fact and whether or not it means anything but I distinctly remember it popping into my head at the time. Maybe his confidence is starting to grow a little bit and he’s beginning to push his chest out and keep his shoulders up. Like I said it might be nothing though.

  86. King Eric says:

    Byron. Spot on mate. I was perplexed with the jonny fifth choice comments. He has been one of our mainstays the last three seasons. Ignorant cunt. Jonny in recent games has been excellent and yesterday was top drawer. I do wish though he would cut out those bloody cruyf turns in our box! Composure personified. Well done lad. As for Rafa gotta love his celebrations at the end akin to Pats. Bless him.

  87. King Eric says:

    Again byron I have noticed that de Gea DOES appear to look a tad bigger.

    Another thing regarding match of the day why the FUCK were media darlings and the barcodes on first? United v Dippers is one of the biggest games in World football.

    Fuck me. Everytime I wake up on a Sunday if it aint Gary Speed`s death its Whitney Houston. I had a crush on her as a kid and its sad news but I fully expect an OTT outpouring of grief.

    Oh Kudos to Samuel for condemning Suarez five min into show. I am sure Holt will have a pop at United though.

  88. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    I’m getting really pissed off the display yesterday was brilliant and all we talk about is Suarez.

    Evans, wellbeck, rafael let’s talk about how good these three kids are. All have been abused on here over time but yesterday pissed all over pool. Carroll 35 million was done by RAF in the air, Evans and wellbeck were the pick though fucking brilliant.

    Jonny Evans for me right now is our first choice centre half well done son.

  89. Sjamiu25 says:

    I think suarez is asking for another suspension…

  90. King Eric says:

    Fuck me. Even Holt and Kay laying into dippers. Typically though sheephead comes out with ”well he HAS served a ban”. And?

    Time yet lads for them to drag United and Rio into this.

  91. Costas says:

    Sad news about Whitney Houston indeed. Unfortunately, I can’t say it wasn’t expected from me. She was living life in the fast lane.

    @King Eric

    Hi mate. I see you found the stomach to watch it after all! I suspect that they’ll stay in line today. The contrast in how Fergie/Evra and KKK/Suarez have handled this situation is so evident, that no one can defend the latter two.

  92. colesy86 says:

    did any1 c Evra take Rio out?

  93. 90+UntilWeScore says:

    Liverpool 39 United 58….19 all the way

  94. CedarsDevil says:

    King Eric

    Hello my friend. Spot on about Evans, composure personified indeed. The lad is so silky on the ball its unreal, also has the odd great pass in him as well. I have always stood by the lad and believed in him and now he is showing what he is all about.

    Not sure why some are being critical of Evra for his post match celebrations?

    Oh, by the way did you turn up wearing a denim jacket with pins and badges yesterday? haha

    Morning all

    Feels good to be top of the league eh?

  95. Costas says:

    Heh, Rio in fine form on twitter:

    “Mickey Quinn needs to get his LFC cap off! Chatting absolute cobblers!! Ridiculous! Come on mickey lad!”

    @antonjayco: @rioferdy5 hey Rio……….you’re a has been »» “haha you obviously never saw the game yesterday pal….pockets bulging!”

    (I was trying to avoid bringing up the subject, but since Rio isn’t ashamed of it, if you see a replay of him standing up after his head injury, it looked like the fall had an interesting effect on another part of his anatomy!)

    RT @judeinlondon: rio you played like a man possessed yesterday bruv, nice one »» when OT is rocking like yesterday there is nowhere better!

  96. RedFury says:

    did anyone notice Welbeck during the handshake-thingy? he was hesitating to shake the rat’s hand. would’ve been great to see him snub the shake like Rio did. :D

  97. King Eric says:

    Samuel. “LFC have NO friends in this, it must be a very lonely place“. Nice one Ape man. That Woolnough cunt though trying to murky the waters as usual though by saying Kenny only doing what GFergie did with Eric and defending him. Same as the birdbeater Collymore said. Fuck off. Kudos to Holt though who said difference is Fergie and United BANNED Eric themselves prior to the FA ban. Would love to hear Pat Barclays views. It will be all Fergie, Evra and United`s fault. Actually shocked sunday supp are condemning the dippers. Oh fuck off Woolnough. On about Paddy being provocative. Get bent. Since when is celebrating in front of the stretty a crime? Once again the journos saying not too bad. Fuck off Brian you wire haired abu cunt. Ha woolnough REALLY is trying to blacken United s name. Saying Rio was wrong to not shake hands. Again the journo s disagreed and said he was absolutely correct in doing so. Turn it in Brian you are on a hiding to nothing.

    There Costas mate. There is my brief review.

  98. Costas says:

    Thanks King Eric, my friend. As always, I was never that much interested in their views. I just love your commentary!

  99. captaink9 says:

    Sir Alex’s comments were great how can the scum back donkey face now. KK Kenny looked like a frail old man who was beaten bad by Suarez antics.

  100. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    A question for you mate……….. We did not make any substitutions yesterday and in all honesty I cannot remember the last time that happened under Fergie.

    Any ideas when was the last time this happened?

  101. RedFury says:

    Scholes’ reaction when his header was ‘saved’ shows his love for the game and the club.

  102. CedarsDevil says:

    RedFury

    Well spotted and what a goal it would have been too. A combo of Giggs and Scholes!

  103. RedHarry4Life says:

    Want to hear the latest!

    The Klansmen are trying now to say that the ANGLE of Evra’s hand shows EVRA WAS NOT GOING to shake Sorearse’s hand and only put his hand up when Sorearse withdrew his hand and thats why Sorearse didnt shake his hand

    I mean the fucking angle of his hand. What fucking else? It is common South American tradition that you do not shake your best NEGRITO buddies hand before 1 o’clock

    Klu Klux Kenny classic on Sky. How dare anyone BLAME my bitch Sorearse for anything that happened at OT today?

    Right Klu Klux Kenny then who was to blame? Nelson Mandela? the Pope?

  104. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Hi mate. Last time that happened was the Milan game in 07 when we won 3-2. And there were a handful of occasions before that when Fergie didn’t use any subs.

  105. Phil Jones' Birdshit Streaks says:

    Ok, this is cracking me up right now:

    http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SuarezBirthday.gif

    Apologies if it’s already been posted! HAHAHA

  106. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Fuck me you are good! That was quick, no wonder you are known as Costats! So almost 5 years since it happened last. To be honest I thought and by his standards Giggs did not have the best of games, mind you he is allowed that every ten years or so! I was expecting Park to come on.

    Either way, just chuffed with the win and being top where we belong

  107. dazbomber says:

    What was wrong with Rooneys goal he had disallowed , I was a bit drunk but it looked a good tackle from Evans?

  108. Twisted Fatboy says:

    Ha! one of the dippers fanshites has got video evidence that EVRA refused to shake that goofy blokes hand: http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/02/video-evra-refuses-suarez-handshake/

    They are truly mental.

    Makes the victory all the more sweeter.

    19.

  109. altyred says:

    Makes me actually sick that some Scousers are trying to make Evra the bad guy ONCE AGAIN over this.

    I blame ‘King’ Dalglish for encouraging and condoning this disgusting behaviour from the fans. The fact that even City fans have registered their disgust for Liverpool should show them that they have really fucked up this time.

    So let’s get this straight. Player A is racially abused by Player B, makes a complaint about it and is immediately called a liar by the press. Player B is convicted of said racial abuse and is slapped with an 8 game ban, his club then come out with a statement attacking Player A, calling him a liar and a cheat. When the written reasons come out Player B’s club refuse to appeal but continue to maintain his innocence and attack Player A, for apparently no reason. Player A is abused, booed and called a lying bastard by thousands of people and this is condoned as ‘banter’ by Player B’s club. Player A is then prepared to draw a line under the whole affair by shaking hands before a home game, but Player B snubs him, refusing to shake hands. Player A’s team wins the game and Player A celebrates in front of Player B and his own fans.

    And there are some pundits who say there is equal blame on both sides?!? It’s a fucking travesty. We will never get rid of racism in football as long as LFC, Suarez and Dalglish are there to keep it in the game.

  110. Pratyush says:

    OT was rocking yesterday with their chants of Gerrard nil Giggsy 12! And the whistles for Suarez. Lovely to hear the crowd get into the game so nicely!

  111. altyred says:

    @Pratyush Yes best atmosphere in OT for a while. Absolutely LOVED the ‘get your tits out for the lads’ songs directed as Carroll, I was pissing myself, absolutely brilliant

  112. King Eric says:

    Costas. No worries mate.

    Cedars. Hey up my friend. Yes I turned up decked in a denim “suit“. Ha. Gotta say though Deano aka Giggs12 is a snappy dresser!

    Yeah Evans is showing his quality this season and looks to have bulked up considerably. I love Evans. Proper United lad.

  113. AntiScouser says:

    I think SAF didn’t opt for subs because he didn’t want to risk breaking down a great rythm of ball posession we had during the 2nd half.

  114. Twisted Fatboy says:

    There was nobody you could take off yesterday, it was all about keeping a calm head and the calmest heads were on and doing a job.

    Tony V is getting better and better.

  115. Pratyush says:

    Altyred

    Actually we won’t get rid of racism till the media condone this act. Media outlets calling Suarez the new Cantona? I mean that is just retarded. The King kicked a racist. Suarez is one. Really hard to make out the difference there for the media.

    While football is not a gentlemen’s game, there are certain ethics that one should have in general, as a decent person. But the Scouse scum clearly do not. The sad part is that the ABU media are so blinded by their hatred for United that they would willingly absolve Suarez of any blame if they had the power to. Cunts the lot of them.

    Not that King Kunthead Kenny and his Cocksucker Luis Sewerat have done anything to stop this situation from boiling over. I mean is it so hard to say sorry for God’s sake? Complete and utter butthole licking anus sniffing penis snorting bastards.

  116. Rotegzy says:

    Completely off-topic guys, and not sure someone has not said this earlier. So far this season, anytime aaron ramsey scores, someone big dies the following day. Check the records, osama bin laden, mommar ghadafi, steve job and just yesterday, he scored and today whitney houston. Interestingly, my brother just asked me yesterday after he scored that who was to die next. What is it with this young man?

  117. RedHarry4Life says:

    want to hear the latest!

    The Klansmen are trying now to say that the ANGLE of Evra’s hand shows HE WAS NOT GOING to shake Sorearse’s hand and only put his hand up when Sorearse withdrew his hand

    I mean what else the fucking angle?

    Klu Klux Kenny classic on Sky. How dare anyone BLAME my bitch Sorearse for anything that happened at OT today?

    Right Klu Klux Kenny then who was to blame? Nelson Mandela? the Pope?

  118. RedHarry4Life says:

    Can everyone pls stop calling Klu Klux kenny a cunt. I find that offensive!!!

    To me a cunt is the most beautiful thing in the world. A cunt shouild be loved cherished adored worshipped and ENJOYED. A cunt gives me so much happiness in this modern era.

    I personally love all cunts and would love to love a lot more cunts than I have so far..

  119. CedarsDevil says:

    RedHarry4Life

    Hahaha, nice one pal

  120. James21 says:

    Costas
    Hi mate. I live near Mick Quinn, and did a couple of jobs round his house. I’ll knock on and deliver your sentiments. :D Any luck finding the scorer who scored against all the top sides?

    Utd and SAF would have delt with this totally different had this been our player. There is no way on Earth that he would have allowed any team member to train in a tee shirt baring the face of the accused player. There is no way he’d have let anyone talk to the press and also would never let the club release a press statement along the grounds of the ones LFC released. And SAF would have delt with the player direct before the FA hearing. No Class LFC.

    SAF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dogleash

  121. RedHarry4Life says:

    John Barnes on Skysports news.

    “wishing the media would stop overhyping a “TRIVAL MATTER”

  122. James21 says:

    King Eric
    Snappy Dresser. Ha Ha Your mate Alex is a scream had me in stitches. Still Laughing this morning.
    Top Lad Giggs12 I’ll deffo meet him on Deansgate some time, probably when we win number 20 this season .

  123. RedHarry4Life says:

    Cheers CedarsDevil .

    Loving the reaction of Sorearse and media just adds that certain something that makes it so much sweeter.

    The air smells so much cleaner this morning, the sun so much more beautiful, Ying n Yang in sync, The world is a beautiful place.

    All the ex Klansmen coming out trying to defend the racist and shift blame. Jamie Rednapp, john barnes. I sat here in utter disbeleif watching John Barnes(fuck does he not look great these days) saying it was a trivial matter. Wonder was it trivial when someone threw bananas at him all those years ago?

  124. SITS says:

    As to the Cantona reference – United actually banned Eric before the FA did. United accepted what he did was wrong and punished him for it. The only thing United objected to was the length of the ban. Completely different from Suarez where Liverpool have taken no responsibility at all and blamed everyone else.

  125. CedarsDevil says:

    So our very own Giggs12 is a snappy dresser eh? Might have to take him up on that one when I visit…

    Right, I am off for some Goose, the Grey kind that it!

    Laters RoM, top of the fucking league

  126. samuel - united WE stand says:

    I think previously playing for liverpool is seriously clouding barnes’s judgement on this matter. What the fuck is on about it’s just a trivial matter?. are liverpool paying him to shut up?

  127. Twisted Fatboy says:

    @ RedHarry4Life

    This sentence: “The air smells so much cleaner this morning, the sun so much more beautiful, Ying n Yang in sync, The world is a beautiful place”.

    You Sir have read my mind.

    Have fun Reds, and remember to wear your smug faces, or as Evra would do: \o/

  128. OHH AHH Cantona says:

    Great win great performance paricually from Evans Valencia and Rooney… If we keep playing like this we’ll breeze past most teams but we need to stop giving away really soft goals. The goal yesterday was soft and all three of the Chelsea game were not to remind ourselves of the two against Basel.

    Suarez is a racist cunt and a total scumbag but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that Dogleash told him to do it.

    Evra shouldn’t have done what he did at the end but at least Fergie was big enough to say it unlike that senile odious unclean little man who tried to blame Geoff Shreaves and defend that racist :)

  129. samuel - united WE stand says:

    King eric – i totally agree on jonny evans. Although he had one or two wobbles at the start of tHeseason but he has stepped his game up big time. Much stronger now, aerially he is more dominant, his decision making has improved, his first touch and confidence to bring the ball out is great. He has always been a talent but lacked the self belief at times but i think it’s back now and long may that continue.

  130. Utd4life says:

    It’s great that we have ball playing CB’s rather than the hoof-them-up-field type. Anyways, how good was it to see Rafael out jump Carrol for those headers? I love Rafael and I hope that he stays injury free. That RB spot belongs to him if he just stays fit.

  131. Mr C says:

    Enough of this pre -match handshake bullshit. A handshake that isn’t genuinely meant ain’t worth a toss anyway. On that score, I’m with Rio on this one. Liverpool FC is a cesspit at all levels and has been for years. Just google Liverpool legend ‘Tommy Smith’ adding ‘Howard Gayle’ or ‘John Barnes’ to your search and you’ll see what I mean.

    What pisses me off is that all this media hype has glossed over the fact that we are now top of the league, despite our injury situation, and just don’t to give United credit where credit is due, whereas the likes of Liverpool have paid nearly 100m in players to achieve mid-table mediocrity.

  132. samuel - united WE stand says:

    How good was paul scholes out there yesterday?. Technicall Brilliant is our ginger maestro. His passing is unmatched, intelligence, goal scoring e.t.c.

    People bang on about that prick gerrard but he’s not even close to the class of scholes’s toe. Media banging on about how it makes united desperate. Bringing back a man of his proven quality and footballing legendary status? why not? he still can’t be touched when he’s on his game.

    I think his presence will also galvanise the young players like pogba, cleverly, petrucci, larnell cole, lingard, will and michael keane, fryers and many more i haven’t mentioned who are on loan.

    Paul would pass on experience on the art of midfield dominance, he may well sign a new deal if he feels he can carry on, although i expect Fergie to utilise him mostly from the bench which is great.

  133. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Samuel

    Scholes was world class mate he looks sharper than he did before he retired maybe he just needed a rest.

    James / king Eric
    Top day all round meeting the RoM hierarchy and slapping the dippers.
    Lads we will defo have another beer no doubt even with mad Yorkshireman Alex he was funny as fuck as well as a bit mental haha shame Mike wasn’t about.

  134. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Utd4life – i agree on rafael. I’ve said that injuries have stopped him practically owning that right back spot. He has improved his defending massively, is a lot more stronger, always tenacious, and bombs forward with willingness like a true brazilian. I think the key is for him to balance both defensive and attacking job and i hope he’ll do that with time but we could be seeing a great partnership between the 100 lungs machine valencia and him. Hopefully he stays fit for a long time.

  135. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Evans Rafael and wellbeck all superb all through the academy. scholes and Giggs life long united it was a great day to be a red.

  136. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Giggs12 – i agree. I think the more games he has played, the better he has got. Still without doubt world class, that class will never diminish. We still shouldn’t solely rely on him but cleverly and pogba are there now so great.

  137. WillieRedNut says:

    Rafael mimicking Evra’s celebration was funny lol. Wee warrior, that lad. United, United top of the league! 19

  138. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Giggs12 – always that bit more sweeter when those twats get a spanking, always!. That 2-1 score line flattered them and as usual, we make it difficult for ourselves.

  139. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Samuel

    Absolutely mate long term midfield of Nani pogba clev Valencia with a defense of yhe twins Jones and smalling its looking very good……fuck all these multi million signings they are not needed

  140. RedHarry4Life says:

    On the subject of Rafael, is it my imagination or since he has come back he has been defending brilliantly? It looks like he has gone up a few levels in his football. Balancing his defending with going forward

    Glad other people noticed how he outjumped Carroll( what a brilliant £35million waste of Liverpools money he is). Now all we need is for Fabio to step up to the plate as well.

    Agree too too many soft goals. I feel we are suspect to high balls into the centre without our serbian warlord VIDIC (may i kiss his feet) there. If we hag Vidic we would not have conceded so many soft goals at free kicks and corners.

    Coming through the youth teams of the three centre backs we ahd at the time Evans, Pique and Shawcross Evans always looked the best defender.

  141. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Redharry

    Top post mate completely agree

  142. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Giggs12 – that looks a strong team mate. Add the other young players coming through and it’s great.

    I agree that signings aren’t a necessity, i think patience is required for these guys to all develop. In the long term, it will hopefully be a massive benefit having a team who have all played together from a younger age. Of course you can’t rule out Fergie seeing a gem and bringing him in either.

  143. RedHarry4Life says:

    How many youth theam players did United have on the pitch yesterday compared to the Klansmen?

    How many of our youth players are playing in the PL compared to other teams youth products?

    God I can not puit into words how much a hate the Klansmen and everything to do with them. calling them scum is a insult to scum.

  144. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Why is alvin the chipmunk aka alvin martin comparing the cantona situation with suarez the racist?. what a Bitter clown and a closet pool supporter.

  145. WillieRedNut says:

    Alvin Martin is a Liverpool fan Sammy. He’s from there mate.

  146. kungfoocantona1 says:

    You no what the bottom line is luis suarez is just a grade A scum bag and thats all there is to be said, United supporter or not its the truth, simple as that. The man had the chance to end it and he chose not to and the fact that some liverpool fans had the cheek to say it was evra who refused well i wouldnt even respond to that because thats expected of them dicks its in there geans. ok evra celebrations at the end were a bit lets say over the top but can u blame the guy, he was betrayed as a victim at times both by liverpool and that wanker gus poyet. the bottom line is if they would have shaken hands that incident would not have occured. but we won and thats all that matters to me, liverpool football club now look stupid for wat that ugly fuck done so let them deal with it and lets move on and concentrate on winning the title along with the europa cup..

    On a positive note how good was little danny welbeck, wat a player he is turning out to be. i will admit i was of the opinion that maybe he wasnt quiet good enough but hell has he proved me wrong. ravel son you should take a look at danny and see what hes acheiving because that could have been you mucker.

  147. Costas says:

    @James

    Hi mate. Actually they weren’t my thoughts. It was what Ferdinand posted on twitter. Make sure you tell Quinn that. :lol:

    As for the scorer, I went all the way back to 1905 and found nothing. I believe Rooney is the first to have done it.

  148. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Redharry
    Exactly mate the arse youth production is a myth they don’t produce their own they arw all bought…..fabregas, song, Walcott, Chamberlain, Ramsey etc etc there is only wilshere who has come through.

    United – nev, p nev, scholes, Giggs, butt, oshea, Brown, Evans, the twins etc have all had careers at united. Then the likes of Cathcart, Simpson, c Evans, brady, drinkwater, shawcross, pique, Higginbotham, bardaley, Richardson, Heaton all had careers after united youth.

    It winds me up when I hear about arsenal and west ham the academy of football….bollocks

  149. King Eric says:

    Willie. Hey up pal. Ha I know I mentioned that myself about Rafas celebration. Comedy gold.

    Twisted fatboy. Spot on about Tony. Its testament alone that he was being double marked second half.

    Scholes aint in same league as Stevie Me. Or that’s what Adrian Durham would have us believe. Mug. Gerrard couldn’t get near him yesterday.

    James. Cheers mate. You should have torched that fat benefit cheating cunt Quinns gaff when you were round there. Detest him.

    Kings text earlier and said fucking Aldridge was on skysports saying Suarez has been “through hell the last few weeks“. You could not make it up.

    They are embarrassing themselves at every turn. Vile.

  150. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    King Eric

    Same Aldridge who said united are a disgrace over Hillsborough yet never mentions the Munich taunts. Always the victims its never their fault.

  151. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Willie – didn’t realise that mate, i didn’t hear any awful liverpool accent but that explains the bitterness. It’s funny how all pool former players turn into pundits, something which they’re also terrible at. If they so much more about football, why have none actually taken the managerial route? fucking spineless idiots the lot of them.

    Fergie’s former pupils may not all have been very successful but they had the courage to try management.

  152. WillieRedNut says:

    Listen lads? Fergie’s comments yesterday, having some time to think about them, I think the boss went slightly ott. Not he’s a disgrace, but he should never play for Liverpool again bit in his comment. That’s not for us, as a club to say. Not within our remit. If it was the other way round, and king muppet said that about Rooney, we wouldn’t like it. I expect some will disagree with me on this. If Liverpool FC want to play a louse bag like Suarez, then let them. We should try and keep our self respect. Don’t let LFC drag us into their agenda. The way to sicken them, is to win football game. And in that process, keep winning league titles. That will hurt them more than getting into a war of words. 19

  153. Paul Parker says:

    @King Eric – easy mate. I missed Sunday Supplement this morning but I did catch Barclay on Sky News and credit to him he wasn’t giving LFC or Suarez an inch. He said it was bang out of order for Dalglish to put 3 points “ahead of common decency in this country”. He also admitted to being a frequent critic of Ferguson but said our Manager was spot on for his post match comments and “spoke for everybody in the country except for that small enclave in Liverpool”. They even debunked the conspiracy theorists who reckon Evra blanked Suarez, which surprised me. Don’t think I’ve ever agreed that much with Barclay before so looks like I missed a good Sunday Supplement today. Some tart for the Times (head sports editor or something) was really making light of the whole matter on Sky news, and it took Barclay to remind her of Dalglish’s comments. These journo’s with agendas do make me laugh, and funnily enough nobody on the news mentioned those widely reported t-shirts. But the throwing stones and hiding hands Dalglish has been doing will come to an end soon, as thanks to United’s stance in all of this they don’t have a leg to stand on, the mugs.

    @MR C – I get your point about the coverage not focusing on our win and us going top, but I don’t really mind that mate I expect it. When they insult SAF while calling him Fergie, or paint Rooney as the biggest thug in football (when he’s far from that), or paint Evra as a cunt (when by all accounts he’s a gentleman) THAT pisses me off. But when the media ignore the positives, like us battering LFC to go top, I personally don’t mind as thats the lot of a United supporter mate. Everybody wants to see you fall and never get up! From MOTD last night to this afternoon I haven’t seen any real acknowledgement of our current form, us being top, and us about to embark in the Europa – but I don’t mind mate. Thats what RoM is for! Spurs get the plaudits before achieving anything while we remain unsung heros till we lift something, thats how it is. Personally I’d rather see us succeed with little recognition than be over hyped in the press.

    Besides, Spurs follow Norwich in the league so expect more disproportionate focus on Spurs between now on then pal!

  154. King Eric says:

    Giggs. Yes mate the very same. “Slug on top lip cunt“ as Kings calls him.

    Willie. Yeah I thought he went a bit OTT with comments BUT in a backhanded way he was almost sticking up for Liverpool and their history in that a club with their history don’t deserve a scum bag like him sullying the name of Shankley and Paisley etc. Well that’s through my red tinted glasses anyway! Not that the dippers aren’t scum of course but recent events have taken them to a whole new low. If that’s possible.

  155. Paul Parker says:

    @Willie – you shouldn’t get stick for that mate. I also respect Alex highly but I always put what he says into perspective like you have. When he speaks into those cameras its not a one to one convo, he’s foreseeing back page headlines, banners on the bottom of the screen, etc. Imo Alex wanted to make a STRONG comment about the handshake snub, and he wanted people talking about this worldwide to be clear on where our Club stands. Sometimes you have to overshoot to hit your target – and people should remember that with regards to Alex Ferguson speaking publicly.

    Its like with his “criticisms” of Evra that everybody “selectively” latched on to. When he told SKY “I didn’t see it but if he’s done it he shouldn’t have” everybody jumped on it, but I can understand our manager not wanting to “appear” a hypocrite. Thing is, he walked away from SKY and told the BBC straight after that ‘Evra shouldn’t of done it BUT after the handshake you can understand why he felt that way’. So the manager made sure his comments on Evra were both unequivocal and balanced.

    SAF is very media savvy, he’s had to be considering the bollocks written about him and the Club. I think he’s played a blinder during this whole affair. But of course your right mate, United don’t have any right to say what should happen to Suarez, but Alex knows that – his only intention (imo) was to make a very STRONG statement that would do the rounds around the world, and thats why I call the Scot a Genius. LFC have been battered by this and its not over yet. Look at Hansen on MOTD, after being caught in Fergie’s firing line last week he unreservedly condemned Suarez last night, and I doubt his words would’ve been so strong had Ferguson not thrown the spotlight on the ex LFC player. Gotta love our manager, he knows what he’s doing.

  156. Lebomanc says:

    Hi everyone
    I have a little trivia for you guys, see who’s gonna guess the correct answer…
    The opening-day victory of the 1996/97 season at wimbeldon is famous for beckham’s goal from inside his own half, but who were the other 2 scorers in the game?

  157. WillieRedNut says:

    King Eric – Hello mate. Yeah, I said yesterday Shanks would be appalled at the way Liverpool have handled this issue. Rafael was quality with that celebration lol. Through all the drama off the pitch, it’s taken the spotlight off KKK and Liverpool’s performance on the pitch. They were terrible. United bossed from start to finish.

  158. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    I refuse to acknowledge Liverpool as the biggest match of the year now.
    - They are lowly scum.
    - They have been non existent for 2 years.
    - They will muddy our name.
    - They defend racist.
    - Under dogshite, they have abandoned all traditions and honouring their manager.
    - They have sold out their identity.
    - Scum we should no longer compare our club with.

    - They WAS one of the biggest clubs, now the most disgraceful club.

    Fuck Pool, bring on Shitty, we aint going nowhere.

  159. Paul Parker says:

    @King Eric – exactly mate – so when people around the world see the headlines today they’ll know SAF has great respect for LFC, and his disappointment and disgust is aimed squarely at the current lot at Anfield and nobody else. The tide is turning on this. More and more LFC supporters are coming out to say “ENOUGH” and so they bloody should, who does Suarez think he is to snub Evra? It is disgraceful, and after Taylor finally losing his rag over the piss taking from Dalglish I for one can’t wait for the repercussions. The t-shirts, the statements, the refusal to apologise, its bad for the game and its bang out of order in British society. May not be perfect but its certainly not Uruguay.

  160. King Eric says:

    Paul. Hey up pal. How’s tricks? Oh good to hear that wenger loving cunt Barclay wasn’t siding with the mickeys.

  161. Paul Parker says:

    @TKP 4:54 – intentionally or otherwise, you’re missing the point.

    If LFC and United were sunday teams playing in front of the pigeons and homeless people in the park then fair play, banging on about racism would be a bit OTT, but MILLION upon MILLIONS of people are watching this match, and just like players have to be careful how they joke about on Twitter, they also have to be careful what image they portray.

    People act like every single Club isn’t SIGNED UP to fight racism. Thats why SAF keeps saying racism has to be taken very seriously. So the FA are right to go after Morrison for typing the word “faggot”, but if Suarez calls Evra a “negro” and doesn’t apologise we’re all supposed to act like its nothing? Come off it aye?

    1) Suarez has said on record that Evra “broke a footballing law” by coming forward.

    2) Liverpool Football Club are signed up to kick racism out of football and encourage players to come forward if they witness or experience racism.

    3) THATS why our manager, AND Gordon Taylor, are both saying that the EPL has to get tougher on fighting racism in our game.

    Suarez is bang out of order. If somebody convicted for GBH is released after their sentence and publicly states that their victim has “broken an unwritten rule” by coming forward, what do you think the police would do? Thats another criminal offence, do you see my point? Suarez is bang out of order and so is Dalglish. End of story.

  162. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Louis Suarez says ” I’m sorry”

  163. Costas says:

    Suarez has apologised:

    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Luis-Suarez-apology-Liverpool-striker-says-sorry-for-not-shaking-Patrice-Evra-s-hand-article864545.html

    Of course he hasn’t apoloigised for his racist abuse. Just for the fact that he didn’t shake Pat’s hand and made Dogleash look like an idiot out there.

  164. WillieRedNut says:

    Paul Parker – Fergie is media savvy mate. I just feel the boss took some of the light off Liverpool and Suarez. In an ideal world, it shouldn’t, but this is the media darlings LFC for you. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would see they’re the blame for this. Dalglish has brainwashed the Liverpool fans into believing Suarez has been hard done by. Always the victims.

  165. Shebangsthedrums says:

    About 2 months too late. If he’d have done that in the first instance a lot of bad blood and feeling would have been avoided. The pressure has obviously told.
    All those sad scouters that tried to claim it was Evra refused Suarez hand have just had a big slap in the face.

  166. Costas says:

    Suarez is still a racist cunt, but I like his apology. He made all those assholes that were implying that Evra turned him down first look like proper knobs.

  167. Costas says:

    @Shebangsthedrums

    It’s not 2 months too late at all. Because he hasn’t apologised for racially abusing Evra. He has only apologised to his club for not shaking Evra’s hand.

  168. Paul Parker says:

    @King Eric – all good no complaints, how was the match? Must have been something else mate! Yeah you actually crossed my mind when I saw Barclay on Sky news this morning as I know you’re not a fan haha. I def missed one for the books with Sunday Supp as Pat was unequivocal in saying that Alex spoke for the entire country. Hats off to him. I think the tide is turning, theres only so much you can defend and like you said this is a new low for LFC. The female Times sports journo (didn’t catch her name) was playing the significance down, probably pandering to an audience, but Barclay corrected her and said “in the next 2 years you watch the decline in global Liverpool shirt sales, this is a big deal”.

    That was a great goal by Steve Fletcher just now btw 1-1.

    Breaking news – Suarez has apologised!

  169. Paul Parker says:

    Oh, guess its only breaking news for me haha. They just mentioned it on Sky Sports.

    @Costas – brilliant point about the Scouse conspiracy theorists! FUCKIN DONUTS!

  170. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Costas- yeh I know, I just mean if he could have brought himself to apologise after his first offence, there wouldn’t have been a problem with the handshake yesterday. He’s still a racist c**t.

  171. Costas says:

    Liverpool MD Ian Ayre has issued the following statement:

    “We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday’s game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

    “He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

    “Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club.”

    ————————————————————————————————————————————

    A step forward, but this does very little to salvage Liverpool’s credibility in this. They are still defending his actions against Evra last October.

  172. Costas says:

    @Shebangsthedrums

    Ah ok. You are right about that. It angers me that they are STILL defending what happened that day. I am so glad we won’t meet them again for the rest of the season. As much fun as it is beating them, their stench is horrible and I can’t take it anymore.

  173. Costas says:

    @Paul Parker

    Remember. It’s never their fault mate. ;)

  174. Paul Parker says:

    Im speculating, but I reckon Suarez and people close to him had some money on not shaking hands. The odds were only 10/3 because everybody had agreed in secret that both players would shake hands and the Bookies obviously knew this. Suarez doesn’t strike me as the principled type so I really wouldn’t be surprised if thats why he changed his mind last minute. Then again, maybe just being a cunt is greater motivation for him than money? You never know with this guy.

    Can’t see him staying in England long any road. He’ll probably go Spain and become a legend they’d love him out there wouldn’t they?

    :roll:

  175. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Willie, Yeah, I also felt Sir Alex shouldn’t have said that bit. But I do agree with King Eric (and this is something Cedars keeps saying as well) that the whole affair is a disgrace to Liverpool’s history and for stalwarts like Shankly and Paisely. I am guessing that is what Sir Alex was highlighting by saying that he was damaging the Pool’s reputation as a club. But yeah, whatever, I felt he shouldn’t have said that.

    It is a case of too little too late as far as the Pool are concerned. They hoped their good will amongst the British Press would help their case when push came to shove. However, racism is a far too sensitive subject amongst the Brits for that and they have rightly been ostracized for their disgraceful behaviour in the whole affair. Now that they have realized that there is no way they are going to salvage any pride from the situation, they are issuing apologies and statements in order to diffuse the situation. But it has gone too far. Till the verdict, they were probably right to stand by their man as any club would’ve done. But even after the verdict, they were condemning Evra and calling him a liar while defending Suarez’s racist actions. They didn’t have the class to begin their statement with an apology after the verdict was delivered.

    All of this demonstrates the true quality of Liverpool football club. The statement from yesterday means absolutely bullshit to me and is just a PR stunt in order to diffuse the situation. Both the club’s and Suarez’ statements aren’t from the heart. They are just trying to get the bad press off their backs and I am beginning to hate the scum even more for that, if that is even possible.

  176. WillieRedNut says:

    Yesterdays events at OT caught the eye of a few papers in America. Liverpool’s owners being American, they had to do something. Smacks of a PR operation.

  177. byron1970 says:

    I think there’s a liverpool forum somewhere claiming that Patrice Evra has taken Luis Suarez hostage and forced him to make a public apology at gun point.

  178. MG says:

    Here’s a thought

    Suarez apologises for not shaking a hand

    LFC issues a statement having a go at Suarez for not shaking a hand

    Aldridge and company keeps on saying they have something that proves Suarez is innocent

    Point one – Suarez the racist bastard has still not apologised to Evra

    Point two – LFC have still not eluded to the fact that no one has apologised to Evra

    Point three – United are not in LFC’s shadow

    A fucking disgraceful club – me cynical? me hypocritical? So which fucker made all that up from yesterday?

    The owners did – Evra gets no apology but apologies are made for not making a handshake.

    Fuck you scum – 19

  179. gret77 says:

    So the cunts apologised zzzz. Not quite the fuckin same when your forced into it! Sorry for letting the club and manager down?
    Still no sorry for the racism.

  180. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Does anyone believe Suarez is sorry? He’s obviously been pressured by Liverpool to try and save face, and minimise the damage, but that’s already been done. I know David Gill isn’t the most popular person on here. For me though, I think he does a sterling job and would never let United look this bad.

  181. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    I think its brilliant they have been forced out as it proves they were shambolic yesterday.

    Great banner in south stand yesterday.

    ForEvrared 3

  182. Fibes says:

    @Lebomanc

    little Den & Eric the King?

  183. MG says:

    Wolves are being thrashed by the Albion

    :lol:

  184. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Suarez hasn’t apologized. There was a statement obviously written by a lawyer. Probably forced under threat of a ban. At least there is a hint that Liverpool have finally realized that this can’t continue. Sadly, I kind of think this is from the owners. No evidence that King Kenny has any interest.

  185. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Daglish apologizes?!!!!!! The world must be flat???

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kd-we-all-have-a-responsibility-1

  186. WillieRedNut says:

    Keano’s mate will be for the sack!

  187. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Queen Kenny;

    “When I went on TV after yesterday’s game I hadn’t seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool Manager during that interview and I’d like to apologise for that.”

    Your Scum now apologise for that you dirty shrivelled ball bag.

  188. FletchTHEMAN says:

    THE LAWYERS HAVE LANDED AT LIVERPOOL FC
    3 Statements http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest

    Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

    “We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday’s game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

    “He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

    “Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club.”

  189. MG says:

    Heskey your time has come.

    Er he’s on the bench

    No problem – Heskey shall now begin mind games assault on small club mentality

    All hail Heskey – The future of moral football

    :lol:

  190. MG says:

    Listen Heskey

    Do this for me for Costas for willie

    The trinity believes in the Holy conception

    :lol:

  191. leftback says:

    As we call it in America, it damage control time. The owners must have told the LFC staff to either minimize the damage or get the hell out. They know the severity of negative impact this issue will cause from the corporate sponsors’ point of view.

  192. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    City should and probably will beat villa comfortably today but it is a ground where there could be an upset.

  193. Touché says:

    The bin dippers don’t know who to blame now. This is great. I’ll get the popcorn.

  194. ricky says:

    against spurs, suarez kickd parker
    against utd he did this mess
    next game a horric tackle or spit is coming

    also suarez wants a move to spain, so am sure he dsnt care about rep in ingurland

  195. Gary says:

    Not for one second do I believe Suarez I sorry but I do believe Dalglish when he said he didn’t see the incident and only heard differently in the dressing room. At the end of the day that should be the end of the matter because it does no one any good to hold onto to resentment. On another note I’m more hoping Villa can nick a result rather than expecting it. Come on Villa!

  196. WillieRedNut says:

    I’m sorry too lads. I ate the last cookie from the cookie jar.

  197. Red Neville says:

    I see in the Suarez statement that has been released he has apologized to Dalglish for not shaking Evra’s hand – but he has not apologized to Evra, for not shaking his hand.

    How mealy-mouthed can you get?

  198. Shebangsthedrums says:

    They don’t fool me the scouse scum! Where in any of those statements is there an apology to Evra? There isn’t. They only apologise for the shame it’s brought upon LFC, and their conduct. Nowhere does it mention any regret or remorse for the hurt it has caused Evra. Wankers, I’m going for call in to talkshite tonight and put those f**kers straight. I’ve never called in a phone in show, but this has me riled, I need to vent.
    Now, come on the Villa!

  199. Peter says:

    I wonder if Suarez misled Kenny into saying he was going to shaking Evras hand, like he misled Kenny in saying he didnt racially abuse Evra.

  200. dannysoya says:

    Suarez “apologises”. NOT BUYING IT. Apologise PUBLICLY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION for racially abusing evra and then lying against him and then making him feel like he was an evil man all because he did the right thing and reported someone racially abusing him. TWAT.

  201. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Gary – sorry mate, I am resentful. I wasn’t too bothered until I heard the reporter on sky sports say in the interest of balance, they await a statement from Utd. Why? Do they expect Utd to accept an apology that’s not aimed at them? Utd have kept counsel throughout this whole affair( until Sir Alex’s interview anyway).

  202. Gary says:

    Yes United have conducted themselves well through out and we won’t lose too much sleep over the whole affair so why should we as fans? Sure Liverpool haven’t handled it well through out and their fans have been even worse but for me it’s done. I’m more concerned about the upcoming fixtures and keeping the pressure on City.

  203. MG says:

    No body at LFC saw it

    No body at LFC heard it

    No body at LFC knew about it

    Come on Villa!

    :lol:

  204. MG says:

    Must have got the team sheet wrong

    Come on Heskey get stuck in lad!!

    :lol:

  205. MG says:

    Well United have issued a statement that it’s over

    So I guess it’s over

    Still they got away with it but I guess United were always a class too far from Liverpool

  206. Lebomanc says:

    So young is watching the game it’s a good support from him!
    C’mon villa… Beat shitty

  207. Lebomanc says:

    And heskey very surprisingly misses

  208. ricky says:

    what can you expect its heskey

    hes sooo good hes gt his own tribute vid and song on youtube

  209. Paul Parker says:

    brilliant listening to Gary in the commentary box – he freely gives credit to City players where they warrant it, and it never sounds like he’s talking through gritted teeth. He’s been a real breath of fresh air this season.

    Come on Villa!

  210. smartalex says:

    A statement on United’s official website reads:

    “Manchester United thanks Liverpool for the apologies issued following Saturday’s game.

    “Everyone at Old Trafford wants to move on from this. The history of our two great clubs is one of success and rivalry unparalleled in British football.

    “That should be the focus in the future of all those who love the clubs.”

  211. Utd4life says:

    LFC can take that apology and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Of course they had to apologize when the reputation of their club was on the line. The apology was more out of necessity rather than anything else. They should have issued an apology after the verdict but instead choose to act like a couple of dumbfucks. Nope, LFC can shove their apology. Racist twats.

  212. TonyBee says:

    Holmes …is that really you……..

  213. ricky says:

    the utd statement shows class, lfc should learn

    cant w8 for the europa, will be nice 2 see pogba, clev, fabio an all them in action.

    if man utd and city meet in the finals, theres a good chance it over shadows the champs lge final.

    line up for ajax

    de gea
    rafael smalling evans fabio
    nani pogba clev young
    berba hernandez

  214. MG says:

    Watson

    It’s time to move on and find another mission

    :lol:

  215. denton davey says:

    Good so far – Emile Claude Ivanhoe Heskey has acquitted himself well as a kind of “defensive midfielder” but what is the point of Robbie Keane ?

    And will we see TheGoodDunne OR TheBadDunee in the second half ?

    So far the highlight has been Shay Given’s brilliant “time-wasting”, adjusting his gloves in the seventh minute !

    C’mon you Villans.

  216. TonyBee says:

    There maybe need of some detective work to find out the real reason behind the change of direction of the Evra/Suarez affair….. of course it is fuck all to do with all the media turning against them and certain messages from their parent company in the good old US of A…….

  217. denton davey says:

    After the intense phenological pressure of the past few months – and the fortnight until the away-match @ Norwich – CaptainEvra should sent to a warm, sunny beach-holiday for ten days.

  218. TonyBee says:

    Certainly has aged Dogleash these last few weeks…. when interviewed he looks like fucking Deputy Dawg with them huge bags under his eyes….

  219. TonyBee says:

    Denton…… I agree …he needs to top up his tan…….

  220. iced earth says:

    hello everyone
    good first half by villa
    hope they get 1 point

  221. FletchTHEMAN says:

    7cantona has a brilliant analysis of the complexities of Liverpool decision tree.

    Me? Still confused! ;)

    http://7cantonas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/theLFCinfiniteloop.png

  222. orez says:

    Villa is hanging by the thread.

    and shity just scored, fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

  223. FletchTHEMAN says:

    SmartAlex. Just about to post that and agree it is very important statement from the club.
    But feel if this had been us the FA would put in a further ban. Bit divided on the issue right now.
    A further ban on Suarez is the only proper action from the FA. It is clear that LFC can’t bring themselves to do it even though that would be just.
    Level heads will probably say ‘bury the hatchet and move on’. Personally can’t stand another minute reading about that idiot.

    Must say there was a bit of a smile as I watched hundreds of ‘pool fans yesterday saying they were embarrassed by the club, by KK, and by their number 7.

  224. iced earth says:

    fuck

  225. Paul Parker says:

    Keane and Bent may as well not be on the pitch.

  226. AntiScouser says:

    villa must be one of the worst mid table teams ever. Heskey, Bent and R. Keane up front: what year is it?!

  227. denton davey says:

    Phuqq -TheBadDunne lost track of Joleon Lescott.

  228. Jonny says:

    I love how Villa are sponsored by a Malaysian company, as if anyone in Asia has heard of them.
    That was a blatant hand ball just now.
    City goal was shit, and this game is dire.
    Nearly as boring to watch as a Barca match, 800 pass team move and they still haven’t been within 40 yards of the opposition goal.

  229. iced earth says:

    i think the game is over villa are very poor i dont see how they could back in the game

  230. Jonny says:

    Bent might be a bit of a dick but you can’t argue with his goalscoring record.

  231. denton davey says:

    Amazing -Villa got the ball into the danger-area but, alas, they did diddley-squat. It will be a miracle if they can get this back to level-terms. Maybe SAF should use his powers to get Ashley Young back into claret-and-blue for a fifteen minute loan.

  232. Jonny says:

    Load of baldies but hasn’t done them any good.

    Heading is still piss poor though, wtf was THAT!?

    Tried to cross it when there was nobody in the box, with his head!

  233. iced earth says:

    Villa don’t stand a chance
    they are so crappy

  234. colesy86 says:

    did any1 c Dwight Yorke taking about Suarez’s apology i think he summed it up well!!

  235. iced earth says:

    fuck shity

  236. smartalex says:

    FletchTHEMAN

    Monday tomorrow, and as the wheels of commerce start to churn we will see more financial pressure being brought to bear on LFC. Sponsors and others associated with the club will be attending hastily gathered board-meetings, and ambit of their concern will be self-preservation and damage-limitation.

    Further, parliamentary figures, bigwigs and hobnobs will all express this week.
    Many will demand further sanction of Suarez. Many will want him gone for good.
    For the good of the game in England.

  237. iced earth says:

    culer you are stupid

  238. denton davey says:

    Damn – Cuellar skies an open header. What we need here is divine intervention – a penalty or a deflection.

  239. altyred says:

    seriously, we knew villa weren’t going to stand a chance against city, they’re hardly giant killers and tend to roll over for the big teams.
    on a semi-related note good to see suarez and LFC finally apologise for yesterday’s disgraceful behaviour. although it’s not nearly enough it’s the best we’ll get from them so i think it’s time to bury the hatchet and move on, sick of it tbh. important thing is we won the game and WHO NEEDS NEMANJA WHEN YOU HAVE JONNY!!

  240. iced earth says:

    shit hart

  241. denton davey says:

    Excellent save there from Joe Hart – Ingerrrrland captain ( who else ?).

  242. denton davey says:

    Excellent save there from Joe Hart – Ingerrrrland captain ( who else ?).

  243. Jonny says:

    A
    Sodding
    Team
    Of
    Nobodies

    Very
    Impotent
    Like
    Liverpool’s
    Attacks

  244. iced earth says:

    villa will be lucky to avoid the drop
    hate shity
    hate the racist cunt rat boy

  245. Paul Parker says:

    Villa’s game plan was there for all to see and they nearly pulled off a big result for themselves (1-1) if not for a good reaction save. Bent did well to even get a shot off, there was sod all for him to do all match. Ah well, its still very much in our hands.

    Thats enough football for one weekend methinks! Absolutely delighted with the result yesterday, and Alex has said Nani, Jones and Smalling will all be back for Ajax. Holland should be a laugh ;) Laters RoM.

  246. WillieRedNut says:

    Villa are dire! :mad:

  247. kanchelskis says:

    Fucking Hart. He’s saved them shedloads of points already this season.

  248. FletchTHEMAN says:

    SmartAlex. In my view it has all gotten bigger than the racial slurs. It has now turned into a rouge player which is how LFC are going to put it. But if so, Suarez should have been suspended by the club. The failure of LFC to suspend Suarez for lying to management is beyond beleavable

    The facts of this new case are these:

    Suarez lied to manager and club and then executed a premeditated act that brings all of football into disrepute.

    On top of this Suarez almost caused a fight over head of a mascot. After pulling the little lad even closer by shaking his hand as he approached his intended victim Evra. This was a pre meditated act that could have caused an on field ruckus. If that was my wee boy out there I would have personally asked for an apology from Suarez and well can imagine that the little boys mum must have fainted after seeing it on film.

    Actions by LFC are still pathetic but now clearly are being written by Boston Lawyers ordered to sort things out. LFC have been shocking! The entire organization have lost the plot.

  249. Red Nation says:

    My team for Ajax;

    De Gea
    Rafael Smalling Evans Fabio
    Nani Carrick Cleverley Park
    Berbatov Hernandez

    Bench; Amos,Rio,Pogba,Giggs, Valencia,Young,Rooney.

    Considering we have Norwich away on Sunday, early kick off at 1;30. We need to rest a few names.

  250. byron1970 says:

    City at home to Blackburn next and then have another home game against Bolton. We need to just stay in touch for two more games then we’re in with a great chance. That said, Blackburn and Bolton will provide a greater test than Villa today. I really mean that, even if City will be at home both games will be harder than what they had to cope with today. How are Villa not in the relagation zone, shocking.

  251. alfREDo says:

    Hilarious that not so long ago they were standing shoulder to shoulder with him – How long til he truly walks alone??!!

  252. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Good result for city and as someone said above the next two games for us wolves and spurs away is huge. Take 4 pts minimum from that and we will be ok. After we play spurs our final run is relatively decent considering.

    Is it just me but I think Joe Hart is currently the best keeper in the world.

  253. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Red Nation – I’d also rest Carrick, he’s played a lot of games recently. Put Park in the middle and Young out wide. I’d actually like us to win the Europa, we’ve never won it before or the Uefa cup before that. I still think there’s a long way to go in the league and we’re not even in squeaky bum time yet, but I’m increasingly finding it difficult to see shitty drop enough points. They do have the look and feel of a championship winning team.

  254. torontored says:

    this just gets better – now a public apology obviously crafted by the owner in Boston

    Posts from Smart Alex and Fletch hit the nail right on the head – sponsors will be looking real close and do not be surprised if Liverpool do lose big $$$$ on this one. We would have been done massively by the FA if that had been us.

    Shit attitude from the player/shit manager and now the delightful prospect of them losing money as well – if the apologies were honestly meant at club level then wtf were they not made public weeks back – also makes many Liverpool fans who took the racist line look more fucking stupid than they were already

    They are fucked already for the next few years in any event as far as winning anything as they have only a mediocre squad in any event so the drop in revenue will just add to their woes.

    Read several Liverpool posts quite corectly pointing to the fact that a 37 year old and a 38 year old put their wonder boy to shame – Christmas does come twice after all

    Off to change my urine soaked pants for the 10 th time today

    The political fallout from this will be interesting – wonder if Uruguay will invade the Falkands

  255. CedarsDevil says:

    Only watched glimpses of the second half at Villa Park. Villa seemed awful and offered nothing going forward. Was it the same case first half?

  256. smartalex says:

    FletchTHEMAN

    PFA chief executive, Gordon Taylor said “We are heading for anarchy.”

    “That is what happens when people do not abide by the rules. Racism is part of society and football is trying to set an example by dealing with it. No matter what individual opinions may be, you have to respect the rules. What happened at Old Trafford was not good for the game.”

    “It was disrespectful, inappropriate and embarrassing. We cannot afford to disengage with Liverpool on this and as the governing body, the FA must take the lead because quite frankly, after all the work that has been done, what I saw was depressing.”

    It is easy to despise Suarez. He is despicable.
    I despise despicable Suarez.

  257. redrider says:

    I think he had one save to make and that was coming straight to his arm. Hell…even Taibi would have saved it.

  258. WillieRedNut says:

    City beat a poor Villa team, but they’ve showed me enough vulnerability to suggest United have more than a chance of winning this league. Bring it on!

  259. King Eric says:

    Byron. Absolutely mate. I believe after Bolton and Blackburn they have stoke and swansea away and rentboys at home. Three tough games. Didn’t see the game but villa are fucking awful this season. Yet the bitters only manage a single goal again. We will reel the cunts in come March April time. Its a funny race. Whichever team wins all their games,which won’t happen, wins the title!

  260. WillieRedNut says:

    John Barnes on Talksport losing it lol.

  261. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Well thank fuck for Sky Plus had to switch of the cit-eh villa game. Been criticising Villa fans a lot this season but they are right their team is terrible and under Houllier were never this bad. Absolutely shocking weren’t able to put 3 passes together.

    @ Costas and anyone else interested in Sunday Supplement

    General condemnation of Suarez and how vermin FC responded especially Dalglish. Oliver Holt wasn’t buying into that Evra refused his hand, neither were the other journos. All the journos tended to agree that the handshake refusal pretty much set the tone for the game.

    Samuel thought it wasn’t clever of how Evra responded at the end, even if it was in front of the United fans as he is the Captain of Manchester United and I can kind of see that point of view. Holt understood why Evra celebrated the way he did, pointing out he is the victim of all of this and we need to look at the context of no handshake at the beginning leading to that celebration.

    Oliver Kay didn’t add anything noteworthy, they tried bringing up Cantona’s Kung Fu kick where Holt said United suspended him the next day and also added dragging things that happened 17-30 years ago won’t change what happned today. Pretty much saying look at the present not the past.

    All said dogleash looks really bad coming out of this, as do vermin FC and the lack of leadership above dogleash for not stepping in. Everyone wants to draw a line under it.

    Finally Samuel did say they either need to scrap the handshake or bring a disrepute charge if there is a refusal. I don’t actually think its a bad idea.

    Similar smatterings on Goals on Sunday. Kamara for me has bought into the Evra moving his hand away but said Suarez was wrong. Demba Ba said whole thing stupid and annoyed at Suarez because he thinks he’s done nothing wrong and should have shook his hand.

  262. Hans says:

    Fuck Aston Villa,

  263. lordrt says:

    kanchelskis – thats what keepers are for mate :)
    Hopefully DDG will do same in the coming games to keep up the pace with the bitters and eventually overtake them

  264. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    What is Barnes saying?

    Giggs12

    You got that one wrong mate, TG’s nan is currently the best GK in the world

  265. smartalex says:

    “The lesson of the last couple of months is that you can never be complacent,” Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, whose department oversees sports, said on BBC television today. “The prime minister is very concerned to make sure, certainly that we don’t go back to the bad old days, but also that we are absolutely on our mettle at making sure that the football authorities and the government continue to do everything we can to stamp out racism.”

    “This is the kind of thing that can so easily escalate, which is why the prime minister has decided that he’s going to take a real interest and have this meeting in Downing Street. It’s incredibly depressing. It was very unsporting behavior. I’m sure the FA will look into whether any rules were broken.”

  266. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Really should have read all the comments. Went out came back saw cit-eh game, only just seen that Suarez has apologised for handshake refusal, and dogleash for his post match comments.

    Everyone here is probably bored of talking about it but for me it all seems a bit too hollow. Nobody has said sorry to Evra and nobody will either.

  267. CedarsDevil says:

    Lebomanc

    Hi, the answer to your trivia question posted earlier is Cantona and Irwin. I did have to look it up to be honest. My memory is no longer in check!

  268. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    Agreed 100% mate. Not posted anything on this apology nonsense as its clearly a PR stunt ordered by the owners after and as Willie mentioned the whole issue became headline news in the States.

    I would love for this matter to be put to bed and just focus on football however the damage that KKK and that other guy have caused the dippers is way beyond repair in my opinion.

  269. WillieRedNut says:

    Cedars – I don’t know what fuck he was talking about, but he sounded pissed! He did say Liverpool done little about racism, when he was getting abuse 20 years ago.

  270. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Cedars – After watching Supplement Holt said “he’s seen so many angles of the incident he thought he may have too much time on his hands”

    Thats why I bookmarked it went out and tried to do something different.

    You are right though, in regards to the vermin I thought things were the calmest they could ever be despite even with Benitez in charge but 2011 it started to get more heated with dogleash coming back, then the referee helping them and specifically Carragher 2 years on the trot, then 19 and finally the Evra Suarez incident.

    Things are pretty hostile and look set to remain that way for quite some time. That may have been all well and good in the 80s but you can’t get away with half the shit you can nowadays. Only have to look at the Red Issue thread to see what I mean.

  271. xol says:

    I can see Suarez one day returning to the country to manage Leeds

  272. smartalex says:

    ‘This is Anfield’ recognise that the Suarez furore is actually a Machiavellian plot against LFC:

    “Yet again we are seeing another carefully orchestrated part of their ongoing campaign to smear the name of our number seven with carefully chosen words and actions that they hope will see him driven out of the premiership. Of course, Ferguson’s fellow cronies in the L.M.A, the sweet FA & the fawning press will trot out his every word as gospel in support now that the stitched up ban has been served and public enemy number one is again posing a threat to his “dignified” club”

    “Even in a relatively poor display where he is still finding his feet in terms of match sharpness, Luis still showed he had the quality that no one else on the pitch possessed and of course, Fergie is all too aware of that and can see it – even through those sunbed goggles. Bless him, of course he thinks he should never play for us again, he is bound to, isn’t he? But it has nothing to do with racism, handshakes or diving, it is purely about self preservation and nothing else. A team built around our mercurial talent would be a threat to them that is every bit as real as their noisy neighbours. He will know that if we continue to support the lad off the pitch and, unlike currently, bring in the quality of players on it to help him achieve his aims, Luis Suarez can be as effective in the premiership as the Messi is for Barca is in La Liga.”

    http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/02/tell-us-something-we-dont-know-fergie/

    Waco, anyone?

  273. CedarsDevil says:

    NRD

    Its a shame really, at some level a part of me feels a bit of pity for Liverpool as a football club. Will always be our biggest rivals and the 2 games against them every season are the ones I personally look forward to the most.

    I blame KKK, he should have been a bigger man and taken proper action from the start instead of going ahead with that T shirt crap. Just imagine how the late Shankly would have handled the whole situation? The racist would have been on the first flight home with a broken jaw and he would personally have went round to Evra’s house and offered his apology.

  274. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Cedars

    No fucking way mate she didn’t even turn up, TG was giving it the big one. It’s his fault we conceded as if his nan turned up it would have been 2-0.

  275. CedarsDevil says:

    xol

    Haha, that would be a match made in heaven….. Throw in Gus as football director as well!

  276. WillieRedNut says:

    I don’t see the tension subsiding until Suarez leaves Liverpool. It’s always gonna be there.

  277. smartalex says:

    One of the responses on the Anfield article:

    “Another example of getting drawn into mind games with SAF and losing out. Perhaps a lesson has been learned and we simply approach him with absolute silence on any subject on the future.”

  278. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    So in other words Barnes was just blabbering as usual?

  279. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Kenny should be thanking Suarez as the attention is off him and his piss poor signings.

  280. xol says:

    Cedars – haha I’ll throw the fucker. Could see that partnership failing spectacularly. Fucking evil Sith lords – always work in two’s.

    Been trying to find a stat I saw earlier but given up. It compared City’s last 6 or so away results to their first 6 (or so). Basically they’ll have to work hard to repeat their early season away form.

  281. Red Nation says:

    I think we should all leave Liverpool in the past where they want and will always belong.
    They do not deserve our time.

    Personally I don’t feel Suarez is a racist but an ignorant idiot that is not willing to learn from his mistakes.
    Whereas Kenny Dogjizz is at fault for everything. He epitomises the SCUM. He talks and rats ooze out from his rodent infested throat. He is a total douche.

    Leave Liverpool alone, that grave deepens for them, while we should now concentrate on europa.
    Idiots will drag u down to their level and beat you.

  282. olivertwist says:

    Suarez has issued an apology for his behaviour in wrongfully not shaking Evra’s hand and Manchester United have accepted this apology. Time to move on?

  283. xol says:

    It also needs to be said (and sorry if I missed it) but Dalglish needs to keep is tongue in. Bloody disgusting the way he rolls it, revealing the moist, shiny underside. Ugh. People talk aout Liverpool’s need for decent PR but really, they should get the basics right first.

  284. CedarsDevil says:

    Giggs12

    Wrong again mate… What wrong signings? Henderson is just a gem about to be uncovered, Adam has a better left foot than Cruyff and Carroll will come good eventually after 10 or so years, just give the lad time!

  285. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Henderson > Herman monster

  286. smartalex says:

    England’s first black international, Viv Anderson, who was covering the game for MUTV:

    “I played football for 20 years. The racist abuse I received from fellow professionals could be counted on the fingers of one hand.”

  287. James21 says:

    Henderson is a great player it was his flick that set Rooneys first goal up.

  288. Tomas says:

    Not sure if this has been posted, but this is by far the weirdest/wrongest article I’ve read. By the Boston Red Sox-owned sports channel – huge spin job. And I find it awkward that Lebron James is now a partial owner.
    http://www.nesn.com/2012/02/luis-suarez-shows-strength-of-character-scores-in-face-of-adversity.html

  289. WillieRedNut says:

    Cedars – Put this way? They brought him on to talk about what happened yesterday and he went off in a different tangent. I expect all associated with that club to try and excuse what Suarez done. Barnes played with, and played under Dalglish. If they criticize too much, they won’t be welcomed back.

  290. xol says:

    Henderson? Sounds like a fantastic Brazilian player.

    I also hear Spearing is a defensive rock in the middle of the park.

  291. wayne says:

    Listened to about 6mins of Barnes banging on about race doesn’t exist and it was only invented 400 years ago to justify slavery,the lad seems a little nuts

  292. samuel - united WE stand says:

    park is not a central midfield player, you need more than industry to be dominant in that role.

    I say we take a gamble and play a 3man midfield of cleverly, pogba and jones (if fit), maybe add carrick to that. We should bring in some young players as wel. The likes of larnell cole, jesse lingard, petrucci should all be given a go. The likes of will/Michael keane, fryers will all be in the squad i’d imagine.

    Fergie says he’ll play his strongest line up so i’m expecting berba and hernandez to be definite starters.

  293. CedarsDevil says:

    Spearing is also another gem in their ranks….. Was he not the player Valencia robbed and set up our second?

  294. James21 says:

    Off topic
    Has anyone seen the Utube video, Villa mascot refuses to shake hands with Shitty mascot. Put on by a shitty fan. I hope the poor kid doesn’t read too much into it. Fucking Disgraceful what some will do for a cheap laugh and jibe.

  295. Costas says:

    Don’t know what fans might have been expecting from Villa. Our game at Villa Park this season was easier than the 5-0 routs at Fulham and Bolton. Now the ball is back to our court. Get by Norwich and Spurs and then City will have the tougher schedule.

  296. CedarsDevil says:

    Do not get me started on Downing, reminds me of a young Gordon Hill, his touch, pace and movement are out of this world (literally)

  297. WillieRedNut says:

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/blog/2012-02-12/barnes-racism-within-football-not-being-dealt-properly

    Barnes interview. Makes some good points and a few strange points. Wayne called it. He went a wee crazy lol.

  298. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Barnes might be a clown at times who is obviously biased towards his beloved liverpool but he’s right. Only one race actually exist and that is the human race. I think for millenniums ignorants have changed all that really, they’ve successfully segregated humankind and treated one better than the other. It’s a major issue that will be difficult to solve.

  299. Brigadier19 says:

    Cedars not forgetting next year will definitely be our year. :)

  300. Costas says:

    @Notorious

    Thanks for the detailed Supplement Review mate. How I wish King Eric gets invited to one of those. :P

  301. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    Barnes’ boy hood club are Watford pal, they are the ones he really supports…. Besides the point I suppose.

  302. CedarsDevil says:

    Looking back at our game yesterday, seems to me that Stevie Me had just one mission, i.e. take Rooney out. I lost count on the number of times he fouled him. Was he booked?

    Brigadier19

    More like the next decade will be our decade! haha

  303. Northwalesred says:

    Do yourself a favour and get over to Rawk. I’ve just spent an hour there, reading their delusional comments, then spent another two wringing my undies out. Monty python didn’t even get close to writing comedy like this, it should be pay per view. The mental image of the moronic pricks at their keyboards suddenly facing the awful reality that Queen Kenny and the goofy faced racist twat have issued an apology to United has made my season. Viva! United, Viva! the Republik.

  304. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Spearing and Bellamy have not even got a neck between them.

  305. xol says:

    John Barnes in the Studio
    “So John, what are your thoughts on the way Liverpool have handled this delicate situation? I mean, we all thought things had changed since the days when you were subjected to racist abuse, but Liverpool seem to be prolonging the embarrassment”.

    “Sure, sure. Yeh I certainly was subject to some unsavoury behaviour but the thing is, Columbus is celebrated for discovering the Americas but there is evidence that Vikings were landing on the Newfoundland shores hundreds of years before – and even tens of hundreds of years before that, native Americans were following the buffalo north and could easily have crossed to Greenland, then the Hebrides and thus to Europe – completely opposing the Classical Historical model which says culture has spread from the East to the West”

  306. Red Nation says:

    Funny our youngest most likely to field XI is :

    De Gea
    Jones Smalling Evans Evra
    Nani Anderson Cleverley Valencia
    Rooney Welbeck

    Avg age; 23.5 years old

    Our Likeliest oldest XI this year;

    Lindegaard
    Smalling Rio Evans Evra
    Park Scholes Carrick Giggs
    Rooney Berbatov

    avg age; 29.45

    LOL wowzer !

  307. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – you’re right but judging by the sound of his voice, he definitely is a pool fan as wel. He even tried to defend gerrard at one point, says it all really.

  308. CedarsDevil says:

    xol

    Hahahaha, just pissed my self! That was a fucking classic….. Copied and pasted for future reference!

    Brilliant stuff

  309. dazbomber says:

    CedarsDevil-

    Gordon Hill one of the most exciting players we have had, that team that won the old 2nd Division then beat Liverpool in the FA cup final was a great team to watch so much flair .

  310. CedarsDevil says:

    dazbomber

    Totally agreed my friend, the mere sight of Hill and Coppell down the wings still sends shivers down my spine

  311. Costas says:

    I fully agree with denton that Evra should play again at Norwich. Can we depend on Fabio to start and finish the next 2 games though? Of course, we could always play Evans there.

  312. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    ForEvrared 3

  313. WillieRedNut says:

    xol – :lol:

  314. xol says:

    Cedars – me too, to be honest haha. Do like Barnesy. Watched him on ESPN after Spurs game yesterday where they put him on the spot.

  315. CedarsDevil says:

    Will always remember that Brazilian type goal Barnes scored for England against Brazil in a friendly played in Brazil……

    For all the Argentinian posters here I apologize for over using the word Brazil

  316. WillieRedNut says:

    I’m nuts about Brazil! :)

  317. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Top goal from Ronnie, I do misses his ability to score 30 yard screamers. We don’t have that so much anymore, only Nani on occasion.

  318. Union Jack says:

    Rotegzy seems to have a point about Aaron Ramsey

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1920106

  319. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Shebangsthedrum

    I can’t recall Nani scoring a 30 yard screamer.

  320. xol says:

    I remember him playing for England where they (we? haha) weren’t playing well and Barnes simply took them on down the left flank and crossed it in for a goal. For some reason we hadn’t thought of doing that earlier in the tournament. It would be a less interesting spectacle without wingers. We’ve had our fair share to know the importance of taking the opposition on on the outside using pace and/or strength. Speaking of wingers, I’ve heard a few on the telly say Bale’s doing so well – he might be going to Spain. Correct me if I’m wrong but we’re not in the 80′s any more are we? Remember back in the days when decent players over here went abroad to play? Think there used to be a tacky program following Gary Lin’s move to Spain or was it Gazza at Lazio. Anyway SKY came in and erased the history of the game and initiated the Premier League like some kind of modern day Romanisation. They brought their coins with the emperor’s head and players around the world became attracted to the idea of playing here. I know Ronnie had the dream of playing in Spain, as do many Spaniards such as Alonso and Pique who returned there, yes Barca have won the European Cup a few times recently but to suggest Bale is so successful he’s going to Spain seems a bit old fashioned.

  321. redrider says:

    giggs12

    heh… maybe not 30 yards but he’s put in some beauties from range.

  322. WillieRedNut says:

    Spurs at OT, in his first season. It clipped off Tevez’s mullet, but will skip over that bit. ;)

  323. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Giggs12Gerrard0

    Maybe not this season, but definitely seasons past, that’s why I say on occasion. Just do a YouTube search, there’s plenty there. Any goal is a good goal, but I do like the spectacular. My all time fave player is Hughsie, we just don’t seem to have anybody anymore who is known for the spectacular.

  324. redbilly says:

    Tony V is awesome . Good to hear Johnny Evans get the credit he deserves.

  325. redrider says:

    Cedars
    fell down laughing at your 20:02!! What a player.

  326. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Alright maybe 30yards was an exaggeration, 20/25 yards then. Remembers Mark Hughes goal in a 5-0 drubbing of Sheffield Wed, that was 30/40 yards out and it nearly broke the crossbar.

  327. redrider says:

    shebangsthedrums
    Hughsie had a mean howitzer… too bad I’ve never seen him play live but some of them goals… sheer power.

  328. Costas says:

    How far out was Nani’s goial against Chelsea this season?

  329. redrider says:

    Costas
    somewhere under 30… I think he was like 7-8 yards before the box… great strike. when’s he getting back?

  330. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Costas

    Forgot about that one, it must have been 20/25 yards out.

  331. WillieRedNut says:

    Clipped off Tevez’s back? Top corner!

  332. JC says:

    Unfortunately Villa couldn’t do the business today but at least Zambia did… bye bye Ivory Coast.

  333. redrider says:

    Two red cards for Levante? o_O
    Barca fuming?

  334. Utd4life says:

    It’s nauseating and pathetic to see fans of other clubs taking the moral high ground with regard to the Evra\Suarez case.

  335. Costas says:

    @Shebangsthedrums , redrider

    Thanks. I am not very good at telling distances. When I think about Nani’s long range goals, 3 come to mind. The Spurs goal (giving an assist to Tevez’s hair gel for that one!), the Chelsea goal and one he got against Middlesbrough in his first season. Don’t know how many of Ronaldo’s goals for us were from a longer distance than those 3, but the Portsmouth free kick and his cracker at Porto come to mind.

    As for Nani’s comeback, according to Fergie he could be back for one of the Ajax games. He’s close I believe.

  336. redrider says:

    You missed Ronaldo’s goal against le Arse… the one Almunia reacted very well to…Champions League was it not?

  337. iced earth says:

    zambia champion of afrique
    drogba missed a penalty in the game
    gervinho and k toure missed in the shout out

  338. WillieRedNut says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZWJajhbrR8

    Nani goal vs the spuds. A good bit out like? Off judas back! :)

  339. Costas says:

    @redrider

    Yep, forgot that one. Damn the boy could shoot!

  340. xol says:

    Has this already been posted of Rio Breakdancing? http://lockerz.com/s/183131236

  341. redbilly says:

    so, ratty apologises for not shaking paddy’s hand.

  342. redrider says:

    Costas

    120 goals in 122 games? I think all he knows is to shoot.

  343. ricky says:

    will the twins split?

    will fabio move on?

    www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7513293/

  344. xol says:

    Since Scholesy came back we have been able to control the game from midfield,’’ said Evans. “Michael Carrick has also been fantastic.

    “During the game some of the passing to the front men was unbelievable.

    “I remember thinking to myself what a great pass time and time again.’’ Of the title race, Evans said: “Us and City is going to be tight.

    “Every game will be like a cup final. That is the position we like to be in.

    “When the manager is giving team talks you can see he relishes that. A lot of people forget about history and the fact that United under Sir Alex Ferguson are great finishers towards the end of the season.’’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9078159/Liverpool-rediscover-some-principles-with-apologies-as-Manchester-United-find-their-groove-with-a-victory.html

  345. Red Nation says:

    Gotta see this dumb arse Scouse with KFC bucket complaining about Evra:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktXKEFbOLc8&feature=fvst

    BTW spoiler, it reveals chicahrito said Negrito 4 years ago when praising a team-mate, its not racist over there but here it obviously is. There is a time and place for word used and Suarez simply can’t understand that because he;s a ignorant buck toothed rodent chewer.

  346. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7512081/Fergie-to-check-on-Eriksen

    Not a transfer rumour but the managers view on the Europa League. The last 3 lines concern me a bit, if we get everyone fit (especially Owen). I see no reason why we can’t win both or at least be able to balance the two to a respectable degree.

  347. Sparkz says:

    I see no reason for us to play a weakened side this Thursday, coz as Fergie said….no FA Cup next weekend. The Thursday after that, maybe, coz Norwich is 3 days later. But let’s deal with the first leg and see where we are.

    I don’t expect Scholesy or Giggsy to start – Cleverley and Park should come in for them. And if Nani’s fit, he can come in for Valencia….Valencia’s played a lot recently, plus Nani needs games.
    If he’s not fit, Young can come in for Valencia (interesting that he didn’t make the bench for Saturday….I did say earlier this week that when we get people fit again, some big players will miss out on the matchday 18)

    I’ve also got a feeling that Rio and Rooney will both start this one.

    A) To help get us in a decent position so we can rest them for the second leg
    B) Both of them have recently returned from knocks….and both of them (particularly Rio) are the types of players who need a decent run of games to get rust out of their system.
    Rio looked dodgy against Chelsea last week, but he was much better against Liverpool. He needs match time. If we don’t play him, then it’ll probably be 2 whole weeks until his next game, and he’ll be back to square one in terms of sharpness.

    Rooney maybe doesn’t need it as much coz his performance levels have been pretty good in the last 2 games. But there’s been a bit of rust to his game as well, giving him the first leg will keep him ticking over until the Norwich match.

  348. ricky says:

    sum1 spat at de gea v liverpool

    thesun.mobi/sol/homepage/sport/football/4124704/Utd-spit-row-sparked-bust-up.html?mob=1

  349. Sandeep1878 says:

    Good morning lovely Red Devils around the world..

    Have a nice day..

    UNITED

  350. samuel - united WE stand says:

    How painful must it be for england fans to live on memory scrapes of barnes scoring against brazil in a friendly when brazilian can be nostalgic about winning numerous world cups, producing brilliant players that the english national team can only dream about. Oh well, “robinhood” aka ‘arry redknapp will correct that and football will eventually be coming back “home”.

  351. Sandeep1878 says:

    Arsenal’s Aaron Ramsey’s Scoring record…

    Ramsey scored against United..
    Osama Bin Ladan died the next day…

    Ramsey scored against Spurs..
    Steve Jobs died in the next day…

    Ramsey scored against Marseille..
    Gadaffi died in the next day…

    Ramsey was very close to score against city..
    Korean leader died in the next day..

    Ramsey scored against Sunderland..
    Whitney Houston died in the next day…

    Mr.Ramsey, when will u score again..??

  352. Marq says:

    Now that the apology is out, those suggesting it was Evra who didnt want to shake hands must be feeling really stupid now, thanks to their own manager. Time to move on, Sir Alex managed the media superbly, and we have come out if all this on top.

    Off topic, Ronaldo had his sixth hattrick of the season they say, and 10pts ahead of Barca. And Real fans still not happy with him & Mourinho? How deluded are they?

  353. Titanyk007 says:

    @Ricky just saw this article too

    I know this subject had been talked about a lot but I just read that the tunnel bust up that happened at half time was started because David De Gea was spit at. Police and stewards calmed things down but do not know who spit at him. I personally think that this just further embarrasses LFC, spitting at someone is one of the biggest insults you can give someone. What man spits at another man only a coward. Can someone bring light on this subject or know anything more about this? I hope this is looked into more and the right punishment is dished out to what pathetic little shit did this.

  354. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Sandeep – i think you’re clutching at straws there.

  355. Abdullah14288 says:

    @sandeep1878/ and when Ramsey broke his leg, 8.8 magnitude earhquake hit chile killing almost 300 people

  356. 68Devils says:

    Red Nation 23.41

    Nice video…a fat fuck doing a chicken commercial

  357. Jeet says:

    Good morning all!
    1. Absolutely buzzing from the weekend. Great performance from our lads. Evans, Welbeck and Scholesy were unbelievable. Rafael rock solid. Fantastic finishing from Wazza – he was REALLY up for it. Special callout for DDG – I haven’t been a big fan, but first cheshit and now the dippers. Top saves from him. Top performance from the team.
    2. On to handshake-gate. Words fail me. I had some respect for the dippers, because I always thought they were a proper club with tradition and history unlike the jonny-come-lately bluescum. But, my oh my. Denial, arrogance, followed by lamearse apology. What a mug KKKenny looks like now. Because, now that he’s apologised following a visit to the headmaster’s office, it is now apparent to all and sundry that he was just a fake, who knew all along what was happening. He knew what Suarez had done was wrong, still stuck up for him. T-shirtgate, “never should have been out”, the infamous “bang out of order” press conference, followed by an apology. And, he’s now hanging out Suarze to dry. So much for “not letting him walk alone”. WOW. Just fucking WOW. Lost all respect for the dippers.
    3. On to above mentioned bluescum. Seriously how bad were they against a horrible Villa side? Lucky goal, and top keeping from Hart got them 3. Fuck me, without Silva they are like a festering turd. No pace, movement, imagination. Self-styled Italian fashion icon wankini making series of substitutions in last five minutes to kill time. Because they can’t stand the unbearable stress of protecting a lead against a worthless Villa side. And just noticed, they have us, chelsea, spurs and learse (?) to play. Honestly, 2 points behind, with players returning at the business end of the season when we always look sharp, and with a potentially easier run-in, I am beginning to wonder if I should feel disappointed if we dont get #20?

    Anyway, off to earn the bread. Tough day ahead, probably wont have time to read/post today. Love to all and Keep it RED!!!

  358. Sandeep1878 says:

    Teams who won the treble (Cup, League, Champions League) in 1 season:
    Celtic 1967
    Ajax Amstredam 1972
    PSV Eindhoven 1988
    Manchester United 1999
    Barcelona 2009
    Inter Milan 2010

  359. Sandeep1878 says:

    samuel – united WE stand

    Indeed buddy,

    how have you been mate?

    hope all is well…

  360. smartalex says:

    sandeep1878 – hello mate!

    Estimates vary, but about 250,000 people die each day. The law of averages determines that if 1 in 25,000 people are famous, then 10 famous people will die every day whether Ramsey scores or not.

    Another way to look at it might be:
    There are nearly 7 billion people living on Earth, of which 250 thousand die each day.
    That is 1 in 28,000.
    Are there 28,000 ‘famous’ people alive on Earth? If so, 1 should die each day, on average.

    Consider that your list includes a businessman, a washed-up singer and three political leaders. I’d say that we haven’t even delved into the truly famous. Alternatively one might say that Osama and Gadaffi were extremely famous. ‘Korean Leader’ is clearly not, as even you didn’t remember his name. I’ll bet that the vast majority of people in my country couldn’t point to Korea on a map, and many of them will have never heard the term ‘North Korea’

    Linda Buthalezi, on the other hand, is known by 90% of my countrymen.
    He was a hard-tackling midfielder that only played 27 games for us, 20 years ago.
    Fame (or infamy) is hard to quantify, but if the vast majority of people don’t know who you are, you can hardly be famous.

    Bored yet? Ha Ha Ha ! ! !

    Perhaps a better way of looking at it is to list all deaths.
    Who were the most famous deaths on the days in question?
    Clearly they will be the names you mentioned. Are there other famous deaths on those days?
    Are they 1 in 28,000?

    Statistically, we are both twits for finding this interesting!

  361. Sandeep1878 says:

    smarty,

    You bloody, trying to nutmeg me eh? :P

    i was kidding with Ramsey story for sure, but liked your statistical explanation :)

    Good day mate..

    slow day at ROM!!!

  362. CedarsDevil says:

    Wesley Sneijder’s agent has confirmed that the player is adamant on joining United, however he will not do so before he turns 37. According to the agent, Wesley wants to have a Scholes type effect when he joins.

  363. CedarsDevil says:

    Italian side AC Milan have shown their interest in signing Ryan Giggs, however they will not make any bids before Giggs turns 40. The reason being, Milan want to maintain the high average age of their squad which has always been 38.

  364. Bobby Charlton's combover says:

    How bad is it? Seems that even Liverpool fan sites are criticizing KingKenny for his post match. Really sad for football. http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/02/does-kenny-dalglish-really-expect.html

    Most of the comments are por Kenny and criticise the author. I could only read a few before I couldn’t stomach anymore.

    I accidentally right clicked and when this message came up I pissed myself. Is there anything these scousers won’t steal?
    http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g331/gramar1/?action=view&current=Scousers.jpg

  365. CedarsDevil says:

    Both Baresi and Maldini have publicly confirmed that when and not if Giggs joins Milan they will both come out of retirement and play on for a few years.

  366. Ancha says:

    Cedars

    nice way to start the day!

    Good morning! hope all is well with you.

    Smartalex

    that’s one hell of an analysis on death/famous count.

  367. CedarsDevil says:

    Ancha

    My good friend! No work today and a slow morning for me personally so just posting nonsense! haha

    I am well pal, hope you are too…… Are you still reunited?

  368. CedarsDevil says:

    Club sources have confirmed that they have just signed a gem of a player. Nicknamed Cedars, the fee is believed to be around 4 cases of premium Scotch, the weekly wages are in the region of 5 or 6 bottles of Grey Goose

  369. smartalex says:

    Sandeep1878 – I probably nutmegged myself, as any active analyst will tell at a glance!
    All is well, thank you. And with you?

    Ancha – Did it make sense? Apart from the subject matter, that is!

    On a personal issue, I have been going demented with bandwidth and connectivity.
    It takes up to 5 minutes to load a page, and usually drops the connection before that.
    This means that the ‘comment box’ rarely appears when I reload a RoM thread.

    My bandwidth varies from 5 mbps to around 1 kbps; day to day. Drives me insane.
    It renders me unable to converse on RoM, as 1 or 2 comments per hour is hardly ‘chatty’ !

    I’ve just plugged in my 3G, which is very expensive, but bearable speed-wise (currently!)

    Moving on, good day CedarsDevil! How are you, my friend?

  370. Ancha says:

    Cedars

    that nonsense was funny, so keep them coming

    She is getting married to someone else due to her family. India is not a free society, not as much as the west. I can say this is different form of racism, caste based discrimination rather than color

    The only thing that interests me now is Manchester united when everything else in life seems dead.

    Good game on Saturday, I have to say thank you Manchester United for providing me relief on the worst birthday of mine.

  371. smartalex says:

    Suarez snubbing Evra’s hand has already cost the life of one of my countrymen.

    The ‘Sowetan’ today confirmed that prisoner Justice Mazuwa murdered a fellow inmate after the two got into an argument over Saturday’s English Premier League match between Liverpool and Manchester United.

    It is understood that the pre-match scuffle between Liverpool striker Luis Suarez and United’s Patrice Evra sparked the argument, leading to Mazuwa killing the other inmate.

  372. CedarsDevil says:

    Read a few posts by some saying that if we win the league this season it will be the sweetest yet. For me, every time we win the league its frigging sweet however my own personal favorite has to be the 93 title. Having waited for so long to see the lads lift the trophy no title win would ever match it….

  373. smartalex says:

    According to The Sun:

    An unnamed source said: “De Gea was making his way to the tunnel and was clearly shocked to be spat at. Obviously the players reacted angrily and both teams became involved, before stewards managed to quieten it down.”

    The Football Association will now have to conduct a probe into the spitting incident.

  374. CedarsDevil says:

    Ancha

    That is fucking terrible news pal, nothing worst that being heart broken. My thoughts are with you and I hope you will soon find a new soul mate. Fuck this shit

    For what its worth, happy belated birthday mate.

    smartalex

    Do consider using a message in a bottle, or pigeons my friend, might be faster! haha

    I am good, thanks for asking

  375. Ancha says:

    Smartalex

    Assuming whatever numbers you have provided are true, it does make some sense. But my praise for the way you presented those numbers.

  376. Ancha says:

    Smartalex

    Assuming whatever numbers you have provided are true, it does make some sense. But my praise is for the way you presented those numbers.

  377. Redbilly says:

    Northwalesred20:12- had a look at rawk, great entertainment . Fuck they clutch at straws. Pissed myself. To be fair you have to give it to the scousers, always good for a joke.

  378. smartalex says:

    Patrice Evra is still affected by racism he suffered while playing as a tennager in Italy.

    “I feel I am more of a man than most, because I have taken knocks on the field and off it. I learned that football is a world of sharks. In Italy, people took photos of me when I arrived at the airport, not because I was Patrice Evra but because I was black,” Evra said.

    “I was 17 and the only black player in Sicily. I tended to get quite angry and wanted to sort things out with my fists. I remember we played in Palermo once and every time I touched the ball 20,000 people would make monkey noises. I felt so alone. It’s terrible because it hurts your dignity.”

    You are not alone anymore, Patrice. You have at least a billion fervent supporters.
    Well done Patrice Evra, brave Captain of Manchester United

  379. smartalex says:

    Ancha – thanks!

  380. smartalex says:

    Ancha – thanks again!

  381. CedarsDevil says:

    I fucking love Evra, such a passionate and sensitive man…… United through and through

    Pat – You will always be remembered as a United legend

  382. Jeet says:

    Ancha: Sorry to hear that. Know what you’re on about. Happened to lots of friends of mine. Horrible shit. Thoughts with you, stay cool, and I have no doubt that Life will bring you the happiness you no doubt deserve.

  383. Saad says:

    The hardest trials in life always go to the strongest and best. Keep your head up, Paddy!

  384. kanchelskis says:

    Hey – any FACHT fans out there? Here’s a doozy for ya:

    Manchester United have won 83% of the 18 games Jonny Evans has appeared in this season and just 43% of the seven he has missed.

    Betcha never saw that one coming, eh?

  385. Ancha says:

    sorry for the double post

    Cedars

    thanks buddy. Life moves on, the only problem is that I’m clueless about how it moves on.

    Smartalex

    you have got nice nick from Sandeep1878 “Smarty”
    the spit incident is disturbing but I’m surprised at how little coverage it got

  386. Saad says:

    If it turns out that a Liverpool player spat on De Gea, Pepe Reina will have to seriously rethink his stay at Liverpool coz if I were in his position, I wouldn’t be part of a club whose unashamedly spit on his countrymen.

  387. smartalex says:

    Jonny Evans said:
    “It is disappointing he didn’t shake his hand because Patrice was the one who has been racially abused. We don’t want to see that in football. I think it could have ended there and then with a handshake.”

    “There was a bit of animosity created over the handshake. Other players noticed it. We had been talking about it in the changing room and whether he would shake his hand.”

    “I said to Pat: ‘I think if you offer a handshake, then you will come out with a lot of respect’.”

  388. Redbilly says:

    Rednation23:21- typical scouser . Taps on and on without getting to the point . Fat cunt too. As you make the point terms in one society gave a different connotation than another . Suarez is guilty of ignorance at the very least . Ignorance is invincible therefore to expect the scouse to see sense is foolhardy.

  389. smartalex says:

    Ancha – that spit will hit the fan soon. Whoever spat will likely be outed, as it can only be a LFC employee that did it, and the owners clearly need to be seen as pro-actively ending LFC’s current debacle. Only by coming clean on ALL transgressions associated with this sorry mess, can LFC redeem themselves and end their nosedive in World opinion.

    Coming soon to a hanging near you, LFC scapegoats sacrificed with fanfare.

  390. Ancha says:

    Kanchelskis

    Evans always had the potential and he even had an excellent season 2008-09
    Good to see him come back strong and silence the critics

    For all those who felt that Pique is better than Evans, he would have pissed his pants in EPL. Forget about EPL remove him from that possession based Barca team I bet he will look ordinary.

  391. Guillaume says:

    Suarez has been an utter disgrace and really should definitely not be allowed to play for Liverpool again.
    i really don’t understand how some LFC fans can still defend such a cunt!!

  392. 68Devils says:

    Ancha

    Know exactly how you feel. And the worst part is there is nothing you can do about it but to ride it out. Nothing last forever not even a fucking heartbreak. But you know what..love leaves ugly scars but Manchester United leaves beautiful ones. Stay united.

  393. CedarsDevil says:

    Ancha

    Just keep the faith my friend….. Great things are just around the corner.

    Cedars signing off

  394. kanchelskis says:

    @Ancha

    Exactly. There’s only so much you can prove your worth as a CB when you’re playing: a) behind the most efficient and exhausting midfield unit in the world, b) in the slower-paced, less physical La Liga, and c) against teams that – the top few aside – are just making up the numbers in the league.

    The PL gives you a thorough examination week in week out. I was at the match on Saturday and Jonny did it all – aerial battles, winning it on the ground, calmly moving it out of defence, physically handling Suarez when he backed into him. Top-quality display.

  395. smartalex says:

    ex MEN

    A football fan who shouted racist abuse at a Liverpool player during their clash at Manchester City has been banned from all matches for three years. He aimed a ‘disgraceful’ slur at Glen Johnson from the stands as the player took a throw-in at the Etihad Stadium. The comment referred to Johnson’s teammate Luis Suarez – the Uruguayan forward at the centre of the race-row involving United’s Patrice Evra.

    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - –

    The World is watching closely now that Evra has blown the lid off.
    LFC must be ruthless. Suarez should not play yet, if ever again.

    First, Suarez must admit to, and apologise for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

  396. Ancha says:

    Jeet

    Thanks buddy. It’s a curse of the country that we were born or connected to.

    68Devils

    It’s true and frankly surprising that when everything else in life is uninspiring, dull and dead, anything connected to Manchester United keeps me alive.

    Smartalex

    LFC – Blame all but not themselves club
    It was funny to watch their fans reaction after all the apologies

  397. olivertwist says:

    Liverpool have shown incredible loyalty to Suarez (Kenny Dalglish in particular) but was this blind loyalty? Perhaps. In a way it is commendable because they just could not believe that Suarez could be racist, but they will now have to accept that he made a mistake. Did he lie to all concerned at LFC when questioned about what was said on the pitch on 15th October last year? It seems so.

    Not shaking Evra’s hand on Saturday was a huge own goal on Suarez’s part and could yet hasten his exit from Anfield. We shall see.

  398. smartalex says:

    olivertwist

    Please sir, may we have some more?

    Sensible posters are warmly welcomed around these parts. Welcome! Post more!
    Tell me please: are you a United supporter?

  399. Sandeep1878 says:

    Smarty,

    I m good pal, Thanks.

    Ancha,

    Sorry to hear the sad news pal, lets hope you will be more stronger now.

    Cedars,

    funny and humorous as always..nice laugh on ur “signings jokes:”

  400. Brigadier19 says:

    Cedars, I certainly hope that Sneider doesnt arrive. He’s just a flat track bully who is far far overrated my son. He wants the Scholes role, but that’s a role that will be retired when he finishes playing because that role holds all exclusivity to the Ginger Prince. Loving Monseur Pogba and I really think he will be the real deal, as well as Cleverly. For me though the guy who really impressed me on Saturday was Danny boy, he’s got everything, pace power and a persona which befits the United way. I really do believe that next year will definitely be our year.

  401. DiegoForlanDK says:

    ATT: LFC’s fans defending Suarez and claiming Evra a liar:

    This case is really emotional, which doesn’t help anyone a bit. It’s a shame that everyone seems to know everything, although they really know nothing at all. Calling Evra a liar is just plain stupid and a very unfortunate attitude. BUT ABSOLUTELY THE MOST stupid and very unhealthy form of logic remains justifying Suarez racially abuse of Evra by claiming that Evra has played “a race-card” before. This is seen a lot of places currently.

    Just how childish is this? I almost cannot keep my thoughts focused on writing because of the anger caused by this sense of logic. If Evra ever, and that is a big if, wrongfully accused any opponent of being a racist, this is, of course, equally wrong. Evra have, to my knowledge, not ever been found guilty of such thing, which makes it a very disgraceful thing to claim. You accuse a man of a horrible lie, which he has not been found giulty of, but defend a man, who has been found guilty of racism? This undermines any legal security and is very undemocratic. Under any circumstances, even if Evra had done this, it would not make him less of a victim when being racially abused. Racism as a principle is wrong people! You can never defend racism just because your emotions is getting the better of your mind. This, however, seems to be the common logic of way too many LFC fans. Due the rivalry between the clubs and our fans, you lose track of common sense and justice and make it a matter of being right or wrong in your arguments with other fans.

    - Racism is not under any circumstances acceptable. This is, however, what you say by claiming Evra being a liar and playing a racist card.

  402. RedHarry4Life says:

    So it seems that Sorearse and the Klansmen are sorry for NOT shaking Evras hand.

    But not a word of apology for racially abusing him.

    Seems it is wrong not to shake someone’s hand before a game but it is acceptable to RACIALY Abuse them.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of modern day Klanfield.

    Always someone else’s fault

  403. smartalex says:

    Gus Poyet is glad peace has broken out between Liverpool and Manchester United over the Luis Suarez affair ahead of Albion’s FA Cup fifth round trip to Anfield on Sunday.

    The Seagulls’ chief said: “I’m pleased that it’s over, that Liverpool and Manchester United agree and the line is finished, because it was going too far.”

    Poyet, who acts as a mentor to Suarez, caused controversy earlier in the season by defending his fellow Uruguayan and labelling Evra a cry baby following the racism incident at Anfield.

    No more at:
    http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/9527478.Poyet_pleased_with_Suarez_truce/

    ‘Going too far’? What do you mean Poyet? What has gone too far? Who went too far?

    It was you Poyet! You went too far. Will you climb down, with an apology?

  404. olivertwist says:

    Smartalex,

    I’m actually a Villa fan, but I like to visit other fans sites to see what various opinions are especially on the hot topics, such as this one.

    I’m impartial so can manage to give a fair and objective viewpoint on the whole Suarez/Evra business. I feel a bit of sympathy for LFC as reading between the lines it is my belief that Suarez has been economical with the truth with his own club and Liverpool have thus felt that a hearing has taken the side of one man against another when (as they saw it) Evra made a false claim. Suarez has since admitted that he used the word “Negro” and insults were traded by both parties in the heat of the battle. Evra apparently insulting Suarez’s South American roots in Spanish.

    Suarez probably thought that what he said was tit for tat, but because it involved a comment about the colour of his opponents skin, he was seen to of over stepped the mark?

    Suarez, I guess feels totally hard done by for getting an 8 match ban for his part in the war of words , hence his actions on Saturday. What do you think?

  405. olivertwist says:

    I suppose that now Liverpool know that Suarez lied to them and also refused to shake Evra’s hand after telling Dalglish that he would do, he has now left the club with a decision to make.

    Do they sell thier best no7 since Dalglish himself because he has brought the integrity of the club into question? Or do they stick with him and hope the whole thing blows over?

    What should they do? What would other clubs do?

    It is said that loyalty is Dalglish’s “signature emotion” and I think that he is guilty of naivity for showing blind faith to a player he obviously believed in. Commendable but not without flaw. I guess we all live and learn.

    I would like Liverpool and Manchester United to make a joint statement to the worldwide football audience stating that although the rivalry between the two clubs will always be there, it should be made clear that respect for both clubs will be demanded from all players from both clubs for the greater good of football. The game needs this now and LFC must sell Suarez in the summer, in my opinion.

  406. smartalex says:

    Hansen wrote in the Telegraph: “What is so disappointing for Liverpool and Kenny Dalglish is that they have taken so much flak, Kenny in particular, for backing Suárez, yet when it comes to the crunch and he is asked to shake Evra’s hand but doesn’t do it, it is obvious that the club and the manager are going to feel let down.

    “Liverpool were totally right to respond with strongly-worded statements from Dalglish and managing director, Ian Ayre, following Suárez’s apology on Sunday.”

    “Manchester United should also be applauded for the swift and gracious acceptance, and wording, of their subsequent statement, urging everybody to move on.”

    “Hopefully, Evra will also come out and with a similar statement so that we can all draw a line under this.”

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    He says:

    a – LFC and Dalglish took flak for backing Suarez, how dare he let them down!
    b – LFC are totally right in their response.
    c – United should be applauded, for urging everybody to move on.
    d – Evra must swiftly be gracious by publicly accepting Suarez apology, and moving on.

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    a * Actually, LFC and Dalglish took flak for backing Suarez despite the overwhelming evidence that showed him to be an unrepentant racist and a devious liar.
    b * LFC were mostly right in their response during the 5 minutes that they uploaded the manufactured quotes. For the rest of the this sorry affair they have been miserably wrong. Pointing loudly at one good deed when herds of elephants have entered the room at your request is over-reaching, slightly.
    c * Hansen compliments United, for an action that helps Liverpool. What about the marvelous restraint shown by Patrice, Sir Alex, and all at United over the last month? We could have crucified them, yet the truth is United just want to move on, without LFC suffering any more. It’s not good for football, which is what we do.
    d * Before insisting that Evra must swiftly and graciously accept Suarez apology, someone will apparently need to urge Suarez to apologise. He’s hardly morally motivated from within. Say sorry, and Patrice will unreservedly forgive you Suarez.

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    Hansen has tried to seem fair in this regard, yet works relentlessly to hide the truths that must come out now, for LFC to move on unfettered by this festering mess.

  407. Redbilly says:

    The problem with a character like Suarez is just that, character. His behaviour during this racism issue , the handshake , diving , cheating and biting ect us simply another mark if the man.

    If hehad been a united player guilty if these offences ge and the club would gave been crucified and rightly so.

    As I said , it’s his character. Behaving like a mature fair minded adult is out if charCter for him. A scouse associate said to me he wi defend him to the hilt, especially if defending him against a united supporter but personally is embarrassed he supports a man of such poor judgement .

    He appears to be an individual who thrives on controversy , like maradonna but without that level of talent. Been in a couple of ratfield sites. Void of reality.

    To support united us a privilege the scouse, sadly can never experience.

  408. Redbilly says:

    Apologies for the typos. Ratface’s fault

  409. Redbilly says:

    On another note. Why is it every virgin fan says we are obsessed with their club?. Yes we probably discuss them more than the majority of other PL clubs but are they not our bitter rivals? . Do they discuss us any less?. Where us the evidence for their point of view?. Ahh, they don’t need any.

  410. Redbilly says:

    Fucking typos on my I phone. Vermin not virgin. That’s just wishful thinking

  411. denton davey says:

    I haven’t all of the most recent comments in this thread but I have read a fair-few of the ones from yesterday.

    What perhaps needs some further comment is the referee’s behaviour on Saturday.

    Did he not see Luis Suarez refuse to shake Patrice Evra’s out-stretched hand ?

    Did he not see Luis Suarez blatantly dive AFTER Rio beat him to the ball at the end of the first-half ? (This blatant dive is obvious from the slow-motion replays that show Rio nicking the ball and Suarez taking two more steps before falling over)

    Did he not see Luis Suarez kick the ball away ? (To be honest, I didn’t see him do that but plenty of others have commented on this action).

    Was Phil Dodd under instructions to use “common sense” so as to not inflame an already-incendiary situation ?

    These are really quite petty points that I’ve just made but in the context of Saturday’s match and its aftermath, they are not inconsequential. I wonder what the FA response to them will be – just as I wonder what their response to Patrice Evra’s post-match victory-celebration will be.

  412. smartalex says:

    olivertwist

    Suarez has been economical with the truth with his own club, but Liverpool were foolish if they felt that the hearing took the side of one man against another. They had only to read it, to be clear that was a falsehood.

    I doubt LFC saw it as: Evra made a false claim. They chose to see it that way for the option was available, and initially seemed credible as they thought Evra had previously made false allegations. Evra had not done so, yet once that fact was realised there was still no retraction by LFC, proving that their intent was only to cast doubt on the victim. Suarez has since admitted that he used the word “Negro” and insults were traded by both parties in the heat of the battle.

    It is categorically accepted by all parties including Suarez and his legal team that Evra was not insulting about Suarez’s South American roots.

    Suarez was racist to wind up Evra, cowardly to believe that his Uruguayan lie would save him.
    Suarez believes that he is entitled to be racist, and to lie, and to cheat, and to maim.

    He may not.

    ps There is yet another thread on this, so i may see you there!

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    I see we play Villa at Old Trafford on the 14th of April. Please be sure to give us some perspective closer to the time. Thanks!

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