Self confessed Liverpool fan and Guardian journo, Sachin Nakrani, posted a six year old picture on Twitter of a Chelsea fan doing a Nazi salute, suggesting it was taken ahead of today’s FA Cup semi-final.
After several people pointed out to him that the picture was old he acknowledged his mistake. However, the strange thing about this was not the outdated picture, but that Nakrani would claim to take such offence after writing lies in The Guardian to defend Luis Suarez after he was found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra.
What the report shows is that in deciding to ban Suárez for eight matches and fine the player £40,000 for racially abusing Evra, the panel judged that in a row which that boiled down to one man’s word against another, it was Evra who was telling the truth.
This article was published several hours after the FA published their report but directly contradicted what was actually written in the report. Luis Suarez’s chosen representative, Peter McCormick OBE, acknowledged that this case wasn’t “one man’s word against another”, as Nakrani claimed.
“215. It was accepted by both Mr Greaney and Mr McCormick in closing submissions that this is not simply a case of one person’s word against another.”
When on Twitter it was pointed out that him that is was fairly hypocritical for him to slam a random Chelsea fan for being racist six years ago, having written lies in defence of Suarez who was deemed guilty of racially abusing Evra, Nakrani went on to tell more lies.
Yes, this journalist claimed that he was receiving abuse from “Man Utd fans” because he had criticised Chelsea fans jeering during the minute’s silence for Hillsborough.
Of course, for those of you that aren’t familiar with Twitter, a simple search for someone’s username shows all the things that have been said to them, and not a single United fan had criticised him for the reason he claimed. All the criticism came because he is a lying hypocrite, slamming a racist fan at Chelsea whilst lying to defend Suarez in his article.
When asked to name and shame the people who had abused him, he obviously failed to do so, as there hadn’t been any United fans “abusing” him for the reason he claimed. Fancy lying again when it’s so easy to be found out.
Always the victim, it’s never your fault.
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Top Class CUNT!! Thanks for exposing that lying sack of shit.
great win
we must not lose focus
Idiot
How does the Guardian not sanction this idiot.
“Always the victim, it’s never your fault.”
Perfect way to end the post Scott
what a muppet
Has he applied for Liverpool Director of Football yet?
He fits the bill no doubt.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4256089/Roy-Keane-column-Manchester-United-need-a-fear-factor.html
@Fletch
Hi mate. 82 league goals now. What do you think? Can we get 6 more and surpass the tally from 01-02? 99-00 seems to far away now.
Scott, look closely at the photo on his profile. The coffin and hearse. It’s clearly doctored just like that six year old photograph was. Twitter @DS_RayCarling
They never remember Heysel. It’s a Liverpool thing, always the victim. Let’s hope it stays that way. Losers.
Top win + 3 points for us today. Same against everton next week please lads.
We shall not be moved!
Another class performance from Rafael! Stick with him please Fergie for the next 4 games please! The lad is top drawer! I thought Valencia was disappointing today. He never had a bad game but I guess that’s what can happen against shit opposition like Villa. Same can be said about Wazza but lets be honest. Villa were awful. Simply pathetic! Another quality display from carrick, scholes, evans, rio, paddy, super dan and the best part of todays game was seeing nani back in the mix and on the score sheet. He’s a fucking legend! One of my favorite current UTD players at the moment! He’s really improved and grown over the last few seasons. What a player he is to come back into our squad for the title run in. Go on lad! I’d start Nani for the next 4 games over Young to be honest although Young has done really well in his 1st season for us. He’s scored some vital goals and assisted plenty. I just think Nani gives us something extra.
Nothing better than seeing MUFC TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lovely stuff!
Costas,
Cheers mate. I am very confident that 88 goals can be achieved. More focused on 20, but think 90+ is achievable. But the focus has to be 20th and take what will on the way.
There are always bumps along the way. Wigan was a low, hope we get more consistently better performances going forward. Today a good start but we need to get at least 2 more wins and hope for 3. As to the goals, I also hope Wayne can close the gap on Van Persie as he has been there or there about as the best goal scorer. Robin has been top class, but WR10 could do the business.
Scott the red PLEASE make a post about this twitter account @JamesLesMCFC. he has been spewing racist nonsense all day and I want him exposed. thank you. Please anyone who is close to scott the red please tell him.
….but he is a Guardian sports journalist and lover of beards!!….and he likes falling asleep on trains!
what a way to make people take you seriously when you start out your bio like that!
Costas
You’ll probably know this. Did we break arsenals consecutive home goalscoring record today? I’m sure I saw somewhere that if we scored today we would surpass their total?
On topic: another journo scum bag trying to slur our good name.
Scousers.
No matter what colour religion etc etc
Scousers are all the fucking same
Sachin Nakrani is a fucking scouser bereft of common sense and intelligence.
The bastard always blame their own faults onto somebody else! If they really had genuine dignity Can they have a minute silence for Heysel also? I lost respect to dippers totaly.
Always the victims, i ts NEVER your fault!!
@Mike
Indeed mate. We broke their record today. It was the 47th consecutive league game at OT where we scored. It goes all the way back to that defeat by Villa in December of 2009. Poetic justice hey?
It was also the 49th consecutive game in all competitions where we scored at OT. That one goes back to the 0-0 draw with Rangers 18 months ago.
Get off twitter Scott and write more quick quick reactions to matches please. There are always fools on twitter and that is a bottomless pit. Here there are fans, a few foolish fans, but still fans. In short – please give us more attention.
@Fletch
No doubt. 20 is the most important number right now.
And 2 wins in the next 2 will get us there.
If we are going to score multiple goals from now on, I feel that it will be at OT. City and Sunderland won’t be the easiest of places to go and score many. If we reach 90points and 90 goals and Paddy lifts the trophy, it will be a very good season indeed.
Hello all. Our good name was damaged anyway today with Ashley Young. We’re a good enough team to beat Villa without having to resort to chasing soft penalties. Yes, all teams get their fair share of soft decisions but I really would prefer our players to have a bit of dignity. Next time Suarez does it, or Gerrard, we can’t really criticise them if we defend Ashley Young’s behaviour. Twice in a week he’s done it and he’s let himself down as well as fuelling the media’s stance of us getting plenty of luck.
Ashley. Get a grip. Man up.
@ Willie – nice prediction mate spot on! you should have bet “A return to form mate. 4 0 United.
Rooney to bag a brace.!”
@ NBI. Good post. Relations to the game would be a better topic. Starting with the penalty.
I am glad the Everton game is at home, we are using the pitch nicely, we can get stuck into the toffees, Scholes and Carrick in the engine room should see us through in terms of controlling the game. However, their strikers are better than Villas and they can score a few belters from distance. Provided it stays 11 against 11 (i.e. no Ashley sent off for diving, or diving so far he ends up in the Stretford End ass in air) we should take this one. I am betting on Nani to score. Everton will be well up for it and I expect them to give us a few tough moments, this is a team that can score at the last minute so we need to befully switched on. All I ask is the lads score 6 goals so we beat City’s goal difference.
@ Rai – cheers mate.
@Rai
Good to see you pal. How’s the family?
I have to admit I am quite satisfied in some ways that we are out of Europe and the Cups. With City also out and a depleted squad this season with youth and new players bedding in it is just as well we can focus on the EPL as the season draws to a close. It is a strange thing life sometimes you try hard for something and don’t get it, but later on you get a result somewhere else where you would otherwise have lost out, it is destiny or luck, call me on this premium rate number to find out 020202002020.
Would be interested to read Zigoo’s take on the game today. I think Wellbeck answered any doubts not that he had to mind.
Quality performance again from Danny he is a proper manc as well I love it.
@ Costas. Hello mate family is very well. How are you keeping? Not posted much but always look out for your posts my friend.
5 points clear. I’m a bit more worried about Everton than I was about Villa. We should concentrate on the 3 points and forget about how there gained.
So Young went down easily. If it means 3 points, I hope he does the same next week.
So what if it’s not fair. It’s not fair that Balloteli kicked someone in the head and remained on the pitch to score the winner.
Swings and roundabouts.
Another pieceby Guardian :
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/s5Moh6Cql-Ceuj41C1_S3Xg/view.m?id=15&gid=football/blog/2012/apr/15/manchester-united-ashley-young-penalty&cat=football
Scott and fellow reds we need to get in touch with other fans and bloggers and have a hysel remembrance day. The murder of those juve fans seems has been forgoton. Always the victim
The minutes silence wasn’t just for Hillsborough but for the dead Italian footballer Piermario Morosini which football has been paying there respect.
Certain Chelsea fans got it wrong today and so did Sachin Nakrani embarrassment to both clubs.
Scholesy to Rooney, when Rooney scored his second goal. “It’s about fucking time” Ha ha. Quality Ginger prince!
NBI Red Onion – Thanks mate.
@Rai
Ah, same old same old. About to get my 2nd college degree and then time for job hunting. Good to hear everything’s fine. Hope to see you here more often.
Alright folks. Good win and as usual, nervous let me enjoy it ha.
1. Nice to see danny welbeck back on the scoresheet (cue him going another 14 of relentless clinical finishing). His all round game and enthusiasm was on show. always creative and imaginative but the bountiful of goals eluded him but i’m glad he was rewarded today, hope that continues.
2. rooney wasn’t at his best today but he’s now added ruthless finishing that he does make a difference with goals. At this stage of the season, getting over the line is the priority and rooney won’t care much about his all round play, what matters is united leading and winning matches.
Paul scholes returned and at his exemplary best. Pinging passes about for fun, controlling the tempo, and nearly scoring absolute crackers. His return to united this season has improved the team but Fergie has also used him wisely by bringing him off. hope that continues.
The antonio valencia and rafael partnership looks to be coming along well, both seem more fluid going forward. I just hope rafael avoids any injuries so he could nail down that position.
The return of nani is good to see simply because he’s quality and a match winner. Has had a stop-start season but that goal is welcomed and hopefully he’ll play a crucial part for the rest of the game.
Carrick was his typical rolls-royce self again, classy mover of the ball and intelligent.
Next game against everton. I expect them to run us close so we’ll have to roll our sleeves up and fight on for the ultimate aim.
Speaking of Paddy lifting the trophy. Won’t that be a sight to make the scousers cry
Giggs12Gerrard0 @ 22:11: “Quality performance again from Danny he is a proper manc as well I love it.”
IF he was deadly in the box, then he’d have to be outlawed !
Today’s match showed DannyTheLad to be not only a work-in-progress but one with an incredibly-high ceiling.
I’d also like to single-out Rafael for a simply-terrific performance – the little warrior never knows when he’s beaten and plays the game at full speed, all the time. AND, he’s getting better and better.
Despite scoring twice, TheWayneBoy had a pretty dire performance – missing passes and miscontrolling
the ball with almost-alarming frequency. He was Giggs-like in his moment-to-moment inconsistency.
The significant down-side to today’s win was the whiff of ordure surrounding Ashley Young’s tumble – he seems to have stepped on the defender’s foot and then theatrically tumbled when it would have been better to have gone-for-goal without bringing the win “into disrepute”.
Fucking scouse cunt. Ha Mike seems what we were saying this aft about the bastards never changes.
Piece of piss today and for Given could have had six or seven. Danny was class as was the first half masterclass from Scholes. Young from corner BANG. Wish that Volley had gone in. Carrick is just excellent and for those saying he only passes sideways bullshit. Rafa was superb as was Evans and calmness personified Rio.
The minute silence was impeccable for Morosini BUT some fucking cunts in the boxes behind had their fucking TV belting out. Fuck off.
Good to see you on here Rai.
Well played Spurs. Bottle job cunts. Nice one Beetroot. Your stock is slowly slipping.
Not overly concerned about the toffees as I think they are down on their knees after yesterday. They are great on small pitches like Goodison but struggle on big wide open pitches. Go 8 clear and really put the pressure on. Great to see Berb come on and Tom but more importantly Nani bagging a goal.
Well done lads.
Carrick was Motm for me? Thought he was quality. Rafael looked good too. Valencia was okish. Not a word, I know. Rooney was poor, but scored twice. Evans is the most improved player in a United shirt. That lovely pass for Nani was class! Danny worked his ass off again. Glad he scored. I’d be more worried if he was getting the chances. Young boy. His finishing will improve. Berba’s cameo was nice to see. Near scored, when Nani pulled the ball at the end. Everton next up. Come on United!
*wasn’t*
I thought our right footed brazil twin was great today, I hope he continues to progress and we will have a cracking forward thinking right back.
Evans was calm with a great pass for nani’s goal. Once again the ginger prince shows that he is just as important to us now as he has always been.
5 points four to play and if we win our next 2 games we are champions. still not over, but one more step forward.
Utd
Perhaps it takes a little touch for young to flip over, more so than other players. he’s not exactly a man mountain is he? but hey…
Hahah
MOTD2 just redeemed itself with a tidy 2 minute video on Scholes
Titled “Our Golden Scholesy”
Nice on MOTD2!
@LMW : Fabio is also right footed mate. The distinguishing factor would be that Rafa is the unmatched Brazilian twin
I hope that Fergie now notices that playing Giggsy the legend in the mid is our weak point.
So if Scholesy can’t play then somebody else, Cleverley or even Park, and then Giggsy to come as a sub for example. Cause as we can see Scholes is our BOSS there, with him, we are controlling our midfield from deep, like Barcelona. thought Scholes is better than all those man of Catalonia. haha.
peace out.
BTW. I understand critisicing players based on the game and saying, okey for example Young played bad in this particular game and has to play better next time, cause it’s not okey to be just ok in ManUtd, but slating the player just based on one game and starting selling them is not ok.
that is why I ask: where are all those haters, who opened their mouth days ago and slated our players????
it’s a bit queit over here.. halloooo, anybody??? what ? we are again 5points clear??
ouhh, now I know, I understand
All these so called fans realised that we are Manchester United who leads the tabe, 4games left, 5 points clear, holding champions and going towards the tittle number 20.
PS. I was so happy seeing Nani score, now we have 3 quality wingers, and Nani + Valencia together is doubletrouble.
Rafa could also be called our less fragile Brazilian twin.
lol thanks fr the info RVN…. still great game by him.
Well im off now romers…. dreaming of 20
This win has lifted my mood so high I’m calling in sick tomorrow
I can’t possibly work while I’m buzzing this high in the clouds. 
4 games left , if we win the Everton game, its’s another huge step to our 20th.Manchester United is my heaven.
I can’t pick a MOTM, Rafa,Evans,Rio,Carrick,Scholesy,Valencia and Welbeck was immense, but Carrick and Evans going toe to toe for that runner up to Player of the season, whilst De Gea has secured 3rd.
Credit to Wazza – off form and banging in the goals since Bilbao, work of great player.
20 !
Its getting close, my balls are tingling in excitement 
sachin needs a conversation with king eric, get his facts straight
@Dannysoya
That account is highly suspect. By which I mean, I should imagine it’s not a City fan, but someone setting out to deliberately paint City fans in a bad light by spewing obnoxious racist shit.
Sachin can kiss my hairy Red ass!
Liverpool fans and their ongoing delusions over Suarez. No fan of the rentboys, but I do hope they smash the vermin in the final.
Now I’ve had a good few beers at this point. So take that into account.
I would like to put Raphael forward as the best right back in the prem.
Can anyone think of a better one? Coz I can’t.
Any comment on the chelsea fans booing the 96 fans who died
Seems a bit quiet for matchday, I wonder why?
All those sore plastics will come pouring in when we lose in the Harry Gregg testimonial
“It was Jones, it was Welbeck, it was Giggs, It was Obi-Wan, It was Ra’s Al Ghul”
Ha Fucking Scouser, he’s just pissy his name rhymes with FatChin
Am I the only one who is glad over rated Spurs are out? I hate the Rentboys but they have a far better chance of beating the vermin than Spurs who would just freeze on the big occasion.
Chelsea will smash the scouser’s back doors in …after they gets theirs smashed by Uefalona.
Liverpoo won with the help of big errors….Chelshit outplayed theirs and showed strength and sort of impressed ahead of the inevitable Barca controlled demolition job.
king eric- true. though we dont traditionally have an issue with Spurs, they have been somewhat jumped up and deluded this season. Partly due to the praise of SAF no doubt
. They really are bottle merchants. I feel the rents have a far greater chance of halting the ‘ scouse reinassance’.
Shave your ass willie!
Chelsea are the only team left to play the dippers? So yeah!
Ferguson offered rare criticism of Rooney. “He was careless. Wayne has to play on the edge of a game, when it is really close and competitive. When the game gets to that casual bit, he is worse than the rest of them. He gets really casual about it. It is better when he is on the edge, then he is a marvellous player.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/15/ashley-young-sir-alex-ferguson
So today I couldn’t stop laughing Spurs fans having a go at Harry because of the England speculation
What about the Phantom Goal that should never have been?
Chill the fuck out Neil Lennon you aggressive cunt.
King Eric – He was at it today again? I was obviously delighted to see Celtic lose. Sorry to any hoops fans on here.
@Costas
Scholesy was a joy to watch today. See him taking the mick out of them in the first half? He was on a dead leg but he was still winning the ball and then pinged it 40 yards to the flank. Quality.
I did think he dipped in the second half, and therefore our performance dipped. Fortunately Cleverley came on and gave us some sharpness and energy in there. That’s gotta be the way forward if we rest Scholesy at any point in the run in, bring in Cleverley, not Giggs/Park etc. He impressed on Wednesday as well.
Rafael and Danny were terrific, but Valencia had his third poor game in a row IMO. Looks a bit tired of late, wonder if Nani will step in for him next week rather than Young, as we all expect?
Rooney’s all round game has been bad since the West Brom game (apart from the Wolves match where he played well). BUT, in years gone by, when his performance levels were poor he wouldn’t even score. Right now he’s got that knack of being our main matchwinner, crucial goals left right and centre. Would still like to see him raise his passing game to what it was before.
Hopefully we’ll get the win and put the pressure on City next week (I expect them to win, they’re at Wolves). Everton was a tough one last year, only got a late winner through Chicharito, fingers crossed it’ll be a bit more comfortable this time round!
AshleyYoung Penalty? Just saw a new angle on sky and am now convinced Sir Alex was right. It was stone cold it was. Ashely defo made an exagerated movement a but Kieren Clark defo put boot in & tripped the lad.
ON TOPIC: Anyone know the lass that is flippin the bird in the scotts photo? Must be 16+ by now and betting she is a piece of work.
Utd:
Everton H
City A
Swansea H
Sunderland A
City:
Wolves A
United H
Barcodes A
QPR H.
If we pass 89 pts we win.
If City drop points, then we only need to match that number.
7 points and it is done even if City take all thier points.
Game On Lads.
Fletch – The lass is probably less than 16, theres you hoping
wind back that tongue fella ! 
You think this is the real Quid? It is…….bang!
See you at the party Richter..
@ Fletch – that’s Max’s mum. JOKE!
Its scary if we draw with Everton and lose at City we r second. Ofcourse, won’t happen. Hopefully Rooney will b on form v his boyhood club.
Johnny Evans or Mickey Carrick for POTY? Tony V is close but only half of the season…. Worried it might go to the Ginger Prince who has been amazing but again only in the team since Xmas. Be nice to see one of the unsung heroes take the prize… Thinking Carrick for the back of my away shirt.
Honourable mention to Rafa and DDG. Rafa is turning in to a beast at RB, he’s a tenacious defender, never knows when to stop, has cut some of the rashness out of his game and is brilliant going forward with TV. Reminds me of Paddy in his pomp a couple of seasons ago… maybe it’s time for a more pragatic LB so Rafa can express himself. We tend to have 1 attacking FB and one holding FB. DDG has been a revelation since New Year. Brilliant, and a massive quiff too is a real bonus…
Hope these two are fighting for next year’s POTY. Rafa shows that sometimes it takes a number of years… Have faith in our young players!
We’re gonna need a bigger boat lads.
Player of the year is Paul Scholes – Defining moment of the season?
When he’s not on the pitch, we feel the loss ….simple as that
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Goodnight Manchester United – one more down
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Never write Paddy off, he has been unfairly slated this season and his attacking play is the reason we scored key goals. He has hardly had a break and often had to do the job of winger and defender. People jump to defend Jones who is new but when Rio and Evra were getting slated earlier in the season people wanted to bump them off the way people were saying Scholes should retire. Evra is still one of the best left backs in the world and he has done a great job in very tough circumstances this season. Stop bumping him off. He is a United great show him some respect.
Player of the year is either Scholes or Evans. Carrick has ALWAYS played this well just nobody noticed until this year. I have not been surprised by carrick’s football. I expect this level of play from him. But Evans is the man that has taken me aback. Apart from the red against city he has done a SUPERB job filling in for Vida, the world’s BEST Centre half. He deserves the award.
In terms of players who were essential to our success this season: Rio, Carrick, Scholes and Rooney. These four were key.
Re Evans, he has done very well and grown in stature, but I rate Smalling as highly as him and I think either could have done the job, but Rio’s presence along side either of them was essential.
Paddy, Valencia, Young, Nani, Welbeck, Pea, Rafael all played an important part but the wingers can rotate and I believe Fabio could have helped cover for Evra if required. Lindegraad and Amos seemed decent replacements for De Gea. Cleverly, Park, Berbatov and Ando did not play enough to really register.
So for me, the four that had to be there are as above, Rooney has consistently banging in goals, Carrick has made more interceptions and saved more games than I care to remember and Scholes created the platform and composure in mid field on which our success in overtaking City was built. Rio was essential to marshalling the back four. These were the core guys.
I would like to see a post about the two blatant dives by Ashley Young in the games against Villa & QPR that have resulted in helping United win 2 games they needed to win.
I always admired Alex Ferguson when he has condemned diving and said he wouldn’t tolerate it and his players would be told in no uncertain terms it is not acceptable. But when the chips are down and you need the points then it’s a different story, suddenly it’s not classed as diving or cheating in any way it is classed as just going down a little to easily.
The English game needs a strong leader to eradicate the diving, the conning of the referee, feigning injury etc etc, I wanted Alex Ferguson to say “Yes it looked like a dive and I and i’m sure the rest of the players will be having a word with him about it”. But he was a hypocrite and claimed it wasn’t a dive and it was a definite penalty. How will we ever get rid of the cheats if a man with the stature of Alex Ferguson is not prepared to stand up and be counted.
Personally Carrick is my Player of the Year. When things were going wrong he was the key man bringing some kind of sanity and order, his contribution this season was vital to stopping the team sliding further down the table. He has also played a vast majority of games and been a feature throughout. I think the Cleverly – Ando starting at the start of the season also made him find another level and he rose to the occassion to show us what he can do at his best. If he had not been there it would be a different story I believe.
@ Mike Arms – I am sure SAF got his point across, I don’t think any manager has been as critical of players on diving as SAF has – name one?
KingEric @ 22:39: “Carrick is just excellent and for those saying he only passes sideways bullshit.”
Yes – and no.
Last season, the partnership between TheGingerNinja and Michael Carrick seemed to bring out the worst in MC whereas he played much better alongside SirRyanGiggs. IN most of those matches where Scholes/Carrick were in the middle of the park, MC passed sideways and backwards most of the time.
This season – since the turn of the new year – the partnership between TheGingerNinja and Michael Carrick seems to be much more “seamless”. Maybe MC has become more confident and is more willing to move into forward positions and even (well, sometimes !) to shoot – I don’t really know why this is, but they seem to be on the same wave-length much of the time.
It’s just odd but that’s how it looks to me.
My player of the year has to be either Tony or Carrick, but I’m gonna stick with Tony for the following reason – determination.
The lad never stops trying even though we all know he’s very right footed to say the least, but his attitude and determination to start out our attacking ‘spark’ down the right win has been immense this year. Not to mentioned when he was called to play right back, he kept tracking back, doing his best while mantianinig his compuruse even though he is clearly not a defender. Definitely without Toño on our squad we wouldn’t have scored so many goals this season.
I don’t mean to discount Carricks efforts because he has also been key in our success in the EPL this season. He is playing with a level of confidence that I believe surpasses 2008s season.
Scholes? Well the only reason I don’t mention his as player of the season is because he did miss the first half and should have never retired (I’m still a little sensitive about him doing that to us last summer
) but he is Scholes and he scores goals.
For consistency across a season you’d have to go with Carrick, because he hasn’t really had a bad patch this season (touch wood!). Even Valencia and Rooney, as consistent as they’ve been stats wise, had a poor spell from late October – early December (they both woke up in the Wolves game, immediately after we got knocked out of the Champions League)
Evans has also been extremely consistent, so I couldn’t argue with him winning the award either tbh. I’d agree with NBI though….I think Smalling, particularly if he was playing with Rio, could’ve done the same. And that’s not a criticism of Evans, more a praise of Smalling. Carrick on the other hand has done something which I don’t think anyone else in our squad could’ve done….and we’ve sorely missed him in games he hasn’t played.
De Gea, Nani and Scholesy all deserve shouts too…..but for one reason or another, those guys have only had half a good season (first half for Nani, second half for Scholesy and De Gea). I also think Welbeck has been our most consistent striker in terms of overall performance level (note I said performance level, not goals!). I can’t remember him having more than 2-3 bad games on the trot, he sometimes dipped for a couple of games but then bought it back. Considering his age as well, I think he’s been brilliant.
Feel bad for Berbatov. He’s a man on borrowed time at OT and it’s not really through any fault of his own.
So what do you guys think about young dives yesterday?
Berbatov cut a forlorn figure when he came on. He looked like he wanted to do well, but at the same time looked sad and dejected, knowing that he’s pretty much on his way out at the end of the season. He loves the club and doesn’t want to leave. It’s pretty sad and I definitely feel for him.
Morning. How funny that we only get 100, not 600 odd posts after a resounding victory that sees us take a take a huge step towards #20…
We know where it’s been heading with Berbatov for a while now. He probably knew that 11-12 would be his last season as soon as he didn’t make the Ch. League final squad. So I don’t know if yesterday he was sad about it. It’s hard to tell when the guy actually sulks or not. Going by expressions alone, Valencia must hate this team.
Anyway, hopefully Berba will get more match time against Swansea, score and leave the team like he deserves to.
As for player of the season, I’ve been saying it ever since the team started gaining momentum in early December. It will boil down to Carrick, Evans and Valencia. Without any of those 3, the league would have been lost long ago. Carrick was the only reliable CM (in terms of form and fitness), Evans has flourished in Vida’s absence and we how well Valencia has played.
We will see what happens in the Player of the year awards next month. I think the fans will vote for Rooney, but it will be interesting to see who the players vote.
Just read on BBC that SAF is planning on sending Fabio on loan next season. Sorry can’t post the link, damn mobile sites!
Fans player of the season : Rooney , as a lot of people measure success by goals alone!
Players player : Scholes
Personally I’d have it go to Carrick, who’s been the bedrock of an ever changing midfield!
Tony V and Evans not far behind…
Here’s the link you beautiful reds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17719222
There goes the over tedious, long drawn-out debate arisen again…
Well, it speaks volume for us when we have so many players pivotal to us this season
Rooney: Although haven’t been setting the world alight, continues to score
De Gea: For coming good during the last 2 months with some big saves
Evans: For improving leaps and bounds since his red card against City
Carrick: Our most consistent central midfielder this season, neat & tidy in possesion
Valencia: Since coming back from injury, has been our main attacking threat
Scholes: Our results since he is back says it all
Jones: For the cover he provided early in the season when we have so many players out
Welbeck: For being the perfect partner for Rooney
Regarding evans, if he can hopefully stay fit and continue in this vein of form, i think players are going to struggle to get in ahead of him. He acknowledges the intense competition around him and has raised his game mostly all season. He still doesn’t get enough recognition but that’s not a big deal, as long as Fergie and the fans see that then good.
I’ve always thought rafael was the typical brazilian full-back. Dynamic and eagerness to support the winger but also a little rash. He needed to be a complete defender to maximise his potential and with the amount of appearances he’s gathered, he’s quite experienced now. Hope united continue to see the best from him.
Why do i keep reading fabio is part of the deal for gaitan? don’t take the piss, fabio will hopefully stake a claim when he’s back from his loan, he needs more games to fasten his development.
Don’t like the program? Switch the channel.
@Red Van Nistelroo
Yeah, Fabio leaving on loan seems like a certainity at this point. Hopefully he will get regular football wherever he goes. It will be interesting to see how the twins react to being on their own.
Good Afternoon ROM!
This Sachin Nakhrani, seem a right cunt, doesn’t he? I’ve never seen such a huge accumulation of cunts that Liverpool Football Club seems to have accumulated with its players, management, owners and fans.
Onto more important things, player of the season has got to be Michael Carrick. And Sparkz has laid out the reasons perfectly. Consistency, reliability, performance and importance to the team. Carrick has been our most important player this term. Period. The proof for this is in the matches where he hasn’t featured and where we’ve ultimately been defeated. This is mostly evident in Europe but also in a few games in the league as well.
Phil Jones – Had a great first half but then the physical toll combined with the injury and loss of form have seen him have an indifferent second half.
Nani – Had a great first half but the injury and form of Valencia and Young has seen him be left behind in the second half.
Jonny Evans – Again, a great second half of the season but didn’t have the greatest of times before Christmas.
Wayne Rooney – Obviously our talisman and most important player in the team and his goals have proved valuable to our recovery but hasn’t been as consistent with his performances as Carrick.
Antonio Valencia – Like Rooney, a key to our post-Jan form but his pre-Christmas form wasn’t as consistent as Carrick’s.
Paul Scholes – His return is going to be the key in our success this season. However, Carrick held us together even without Scholesy, so it would be unwise to give Paul the award over Michael.
For all the above reasons, Carrick is our most valuable player this season and deserves the award.
Some of Martin Atkinson’s glory moments:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/15/chelsea-tottenham-fa-cup-semi-final-martin-atkinsons-series-mistakes_n_1427001.html?ref=uk-sport&ref=uk-sport&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
Didn’t know he started out as a linesman. That explains those 2 offside goals that Henry scored against us in that title decider.
Isn’t Fabio our only cover for left back?
I always liked the look of him and this time last year he was the preferred twin.
I think he has a big future at united. He just needs to stay fit.
i think NBI would agree with me on this post. the day berbatov leaves will be the day he’ll feel free and can be Ass-licked elsewhere, united can get on with what united do which is to battle out there for results.
Mike summerbee you are a fucking bitter Moony faced prick, the fucking cheek of the prick on saturday “the only difference between United and Shitty is Decisions” fuck me that twisted old fossil is off his fucking rocking chair!! he is a fucking blue weasel fat little cunt his verbal diarrhea reached a new high with me on sunday. why the fuck do sky always put this retard on the telly he clearly has nothing constructive to say! and this shit talk “if tevez played the season the title would be wraped up” what the fuck !!would shitty have fucking 95 points already? horseshit fucking cretenis cockend. Cunt fucking chief wiggum looking dickhead.
And that will be the day some bashers won’t have a life.
*have a life anymore*
Sniff!
Sniff sniff!
Oooooh, wots goin on ‘ere? Sniff sniff!
Something fishy? Who’s ‘giving the bird’?
Aaaaaak! Aaaaaak!
Been following this trawler for 35 years. Feed me again, ye Reds! Aaaaaak!
Raphael’s the man now though.
I posted last night that he’s the best right back in the prem and in the sober light of day I’m standing by that.
After his indiscretion against Bilbao a friend of mine said he wouldn’t play for us again this season if at all. I thought that was very harsh. He should of got a shout from someone. De Gea maybe.
It was careless but certainly not unforgivable.
The way he’s come back from that has been very impressive. Definately our best right back.
IMO he will be a regular in the Brazil squad very soon also.
Yeah the cover for Evra will be of concern. Fabio out on loan, Fryers with his supposed contract negotiations. How will Fergie manage that?
Evans has played at LB before, so he may be used there after Nemanja comes back, or he might simply put Smalling/Jones at that position when required.
@mancdub: Don’t need to get drunk to arrive at that conclusion. LOVE the twins. Actually, a bit gutted for Fabio. Hope he comes back in 2013 to make the LB position his own for the next decade or so.
Good win yesterday, poor opposition but we finally used that to our advantage and filled some of the gap in the goal difference column against City.
On the other hand. Hope someone fuckin tell Young to stop his antics or get the hell out of our club. Let´s win with grace, not like Barelona! We can do better than that, we are better than that.
@ samuel – afternoon mate, yes it does not sound good to say it now the guy is on his way out, but it will be nice to get rid of all the Berbatov hysteria and have people focus on the players who actually play instead of slating SAF every game for not starting with him and slating the Club” treating him badly” by only paying him 100k a week and giving him a chance to play for United. Like the Club have it in for him.
Also it is a waste to be benched at his age in his career. I have a feeling however, he may retire after this season. He has retired from international footie, made his money, a big offer may lure him in but I would not be surprised it he retired. He will get a nice reception if he comes back provided we don’t hear Hargreaves /Tevaz like comments from him post departures. You never know. I never thought Hargreaves would slate United that was a shame.
Also, as I said earlier -Phill Jones seems to be the new Berbatov in terms of diving fans and extreme opinions though he has only played a handful of games overall, so the drama may continue next season.
Where’s the lie?
It doesn’t matter who agreed with what or why.
When nobody saw or heard any racial abuse and none was recorded, how could the case ever be anything other than one man’s word against another’s?
You’re barking up the wrong tree with this one.
Joe
Could you yap that in a different dialect? Woof, it went straight over my head.
Why doesn’t what was agreed where with who matter?
What is the matter?
Red smarties are the nicest.
Sorry Albert – I’ll clarify.
The thrust of the piece is that the journalist lied because, according to the report, the Liverpool defence “agreed” that the case was more than just one man’s word against another’s.
It’s a non-sequitur. It does not follow that the journalist is a liar because of what the Liverpool defence is claimed to have “agreed” to.
Joe
No. A thrust of the piece is that the journalist lied when he stated that:
“What the report shows is that … the panel judged that in a row which boiled down to one man’s word against another …”
Yet the report actually stated and showed “that this is NOT simply a case of one person’s word against another”
Sachin Nakrani lied.
The report stated “that this is NOT simply a case of one person’s word against another” but it certainly didn’t show it.
Like I said, when nobody saw or heard any racial abuse and none was recorded, how could the case ever be anything other than one man’s word against another’s?
Joe
The debate echoed vigorously for months, and I wish not to return there in depth.
However, I can truthfully state that I studiously read every word in the report, and read every view broadcast on the matter. It is absolutely true to state that the findings are NOT simply a case of one person’s word against another.
It is not true that nobody saw or heard any racial abuse.
Evra and Suarez both state that reference to colour occurred repeatedly during the abuse.
LFC staff including Suarez, were deceitful and reactionary in their testimonies.
As lies were exposed, their accounts were emended, always in remarkable alignment with their cronies newest message. These new lies were then debunked again, producing yet more scurrilous scurrying of scousers scraping the barrel.
I rest from this matter now. Patrice Evra is vindicated, and his unhappy torturer is on a new road that will lead him to another place. Italy, no doubt.
Albert, every bit of contemporaneous evidence submitted in the report is based on either what Evra and Suarez claim they said to each other during the incident or what others claim Evra and Suarez said to them afterwards.
What that amounts to is one man’s word versus another’s. Try as you might, you cannot escape this simple, logical truth.
That isn’t to say Suarez was guilty or not – we don’t need to debate that again.
Joe
Is it your contention that all testimony in legal matters is one man’s word versus another’s?
If that applies, then the only recourse for the law would be to consider the word’s uttered, and assess their veracity. This was done in this instance, and Suarez was not forthright, or even plain old right.
Suarez racially incited Evra, while planning to claim that Uruguayan’s speak words of fellowship during angry verbal jousts. They do not. He was not cheerily chatting to a comrade-in-arms. He was racially abusing Evra, smug in the belief that his coward’s card would save him from standing up to those who address racial abuse.
Truth will out.
Soon, Suarez will be out of options. Eventually, he will publicly address his own racist past.
Too little too late, but better late than never.
Try as you might Albert…
To apply the law, a crime would have to have been reported and Suarez would have been charged of a racially aggravated offence under the public order act. The standard of proof would have been beyond reasonable doubt and the case would never have made it to court due to a lack of evidence.
The case in which a supporter accused of racially abusing Tom Adeyemi never made it to court due to a lack of evidence despite several witnesses and an audio recording.
In the Suarez/Evra case, there were NO witnesses and nothing was recorded to corroborate Evra’s allegation.
That doesn’t mean Suarez wasn’t guilty, it just means a quasi-judicial body found him guilty based on Evra’s word and Evra’s word alone.
Joe
Suarez racially abused Evra.
If you want to look for loopholes, carry on without me.
Speak to you again on another day and another matter, perhaps.
Until then, I expect you will appreciate my responses to your initial gambit, as I have yours, and will allow our discussion to end. Cheers.
Albert, I’m not trying to prove Suarez’s innocence here.
I’m just arguing that he was found guilty based on nothing but the word of Patrice Evra.
We can leave it there if you like.
I’ve enjoyed the debate – thanks.
Cheers Joe, thanks for the chat, be well!
Joe … your continued arguments vis a vie the Suarez comments have been proved wrong and your obvious ignorance or one sidedness has blinded you to the truth….
but then again….. it doesn’t matter what anyone else has to do say on the matter…. you will always be right…but only in your own small mind.
So please do us all a favour and…. well….. how can I put it…. just fuck off you narrow minded fool
Scott. What did you expect from a waste of space like him and his Liverpool club ????
Can we not be civilised about this?
I challenge anybody here to prove me wrong by showing me recorded footage of Suarez racially abusing Evra as alleged or informing me of anybody who witnessed the exchange and corroborated Evra’s allegation.
@Joe
” In the Suarez/Evra case, there were NO
witnesses and nothing was recorded to
corroborate Evra’s allegation.”
Apart from Suarez himself admitting he brought someone’s skin colour into an argument. He pretty much dropped himself in it.
@Joe/Nakrani:
just read the independent panel’s report, I’m tired to explain this to daft dippers fans.
BTW, He posted a photo of Chelsea’s fan doing Nazi salutes & claimed it was happened yesterday during a minute silence, while in fact that was 7 years old photo. He accused some United fan abused him during a minute silence yesterday, yet couldnt named one or two United fans who did that. Once a LYING cunt, always a LYING Cunt..
I’ve read the report umpteen times. It’s without substance.
It’s Suarez’s word v Evra’s. That’s it.
Joe
Rule E3, with the sub-heading “General Behaviour”, provides as follows:
“(1) A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour.
(2) In the event of any breach of Rule E3(1) including a reference to any one or more of a person’s ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, faith, gender, sexual orientation or disability (an “aggravating factor”), a Regulatory Commission shall consider the imposition of an increased sanction.
The test for breach of Rule E3(1) is objective. The question is simply whether the words or behaviour are abusive or insulting. This is a matter for the Commission to decide, and having regard to all the relevant facts and circumstances of the case, they found that Suarez words and behaviour WAS abusive and insulting.
Which words? The words that Suarez admitted saying. ‘Blackie! Blackie! Blackie! Blackie!’
Suarez is the witness whom you seek.
He admits saying the words found to be abusive, with reference to race.
He corroborates Evra, with his admissions, and his lies.
Suarez admitted to saying “por que, negro?”.
That is not what he was accused of nor what he was found guilty of.
Ok Nakrani i got it. Its never your fault, always the victim eh?
That’s ad hominem, TheCANTONA.
It’s not 1 man against 1 man. Bcoz The panel did Interview with Kuyt & several LFC’s players right? And They find that their testimony were different each other so the panel decided that their testimony were invalied. Simple as that. Well, its CONSPIRACY right?
The testimonies submitted to the panel by those other than Evra and Suarez were based on discussions WITH Evra and Suarez AFTER the incident. Therefore, the case is still based on the word of two men.
I’m not alleging any conspiracy. I’m not even arguing that Suarez is innocent. I’m just arguing that he was found guilty of an unrecorded offence that nobody heard and nobody saw.
@joe your a soft cunt just fuck off – commelli was the 1 who shafted you, you thick twat
Norm187 has missed the point.
You’re some bellend. Sachin was correct in what he said about the report and the Suarez case, guess you’re too thick to read it.