Days before signing for Manchester City, Owen Hargreaves claimed that he had offered to play for United for free, only to be told he was no longer required by the champions. Despite his desire to stay at the club, he understood why United chose to let him go.
“I don’t blame them for letting me go. I can understand it,” he said. “There comes a point when you have to say this hasn’t worked out. The game has moved on. See you later, all the best. I told the boss I will play 40 games this season. He said he could see me playing again, but he wanted to start bringing the younger players through. When I played for him he was fantastic. He’s a great manager. He knows the players who can win a game for him. He’s the best at that. The guys were great, too. It’s a wonderful club.”
After speaking so highly of United, it was hard to believe your eyes when he was spotted leaving a Manchester City medical three days later. Whilst some chose to be understanding, believing that despite us paying his wages for doing fuck all for three years, he owed us nothing after we released him, I was anything but sympathetic. He received offers from other clubs, clubs where he could play more football if fit, yet opted to join our rivals, who left him out of their Champions League squad.
I was intrigued to see the reaction from the crowd when he returned to Old Trafford wearing City’s colours. Some reds were actually genuinely supportive towards him whilst others, like me, had no time for him whatsoever.
So, it is with great relief that I can confirm there should now be no ambiguity when it comes to the greeting he will receive from our fans, after an interview has been published in today’s papers, criticising the club.
“I’ve had to be a guinea pig for a lot of these treatments,” said Hargreaves. “But when you’re left to try to make something of a difficult situation, it’s not really an option to say: ‘Let’s sit it out and rest for six months.’”
This is interesting as three weeks ago he was singing the praises of our medical staff, claiming they were like friends.
“The people behind the scenes are terrific,” he said. “Some of the guys on the medical staff have become great friends.”
You have to wonder, why was he so desperate to stay at a club who had treated him like a guinea pig?
Three weeks ago, he also talked about his last ever game for United, playing against Wolves last season. Despite carrying an injury, he claimed he was desperate to get back on the pitch and play.
“I wanted to try to keep playing,” he said. “I think it shows how desperate I was, trying to battle on with two muscle injuries. I wanted to at least get to half-time. But I last five minutes!”
However, today, instead of claiming he was desperate to play, he reckons the club forced him to.
“I started that game with two muscle injuries but I should never have been in that position to begin with,” he said. “I was just going to try to get through 45 minutes because that would have been a start. But I didn’t even last five. I wasn’t surprised. I’d said to them that I had a hamstring problem, which I obviously did. I said: ‘I think I’ve got a bit of a problem here.’ I was surprised it didn’t go in the warm-up, to be completely honest. People at times must look at it from a distance and say: ‘Shit, he’s made out of glass.’ But I don’t know many people in the world who could do any sporting event with two muscle tears. There were 70,000 people there and, if I had walked away from the game, it would have looked like I didn’t want to play. I thought: ‘I’ll try to play, I just won’t sprint.’ I know it sounds comical.”
Again, why would Hargreaves ask to stay at the club and to play for free if the club had messed up his treatment so badly?
After United signed Hargreaves, he admitted that he suffered from tendinitis and had been aware of this problem whilst still at Bayern Munich. He did not reveal this to our medical team though. As his condition worsened and operations were needed, Richard Steadman, a surgeon and expert in the field, stated that Hargreaves knees were in a worse state than any other he had come across in his 35 years of experience.
However, Hargreaves seems to have a different side to tell today, insisting that United are to blame.
Asked if he felt United had mishandled the situation, he replied: “You’d have to ask them. There were a few crucial points. We treated it and it got significantly worse through the injections. That obviously had a huge impact. Basically, I was left to pick up the pieces, which was incredibly frustrating. They said it [the injections] would help and that I wouldn’t have any side effects. That obviously wasn’t the case and if I’d known I could have had a reaction like that I wouldn’t have done it. It was a shit position to be in, to be honest. I’m not a guy who wants to bitch and complain. I was trying to make the most of it, but it deteriorated over the season and we had to do these injections. My knee, my tendon, was never the same.”
You just can’t believe the brass neck of some people. Not only picking up a salary for years for contributing nothing to our success, but then signing for our rivals, and then slagging off the care he received. What a cunt. It appears it doesn’t take long for the lack of class and lies to rub off on a person at Wastelands.
Sir Alex Ferguson has today defended our medical team against Hargreaves claims, whilst revealing an official club statement will be released later on.
“We have been trying to analyse all the stuff Hargreaves has said this morning and we’ll have a club statement this afternoon to address it,” he said. “But as far as I’m concerned, for what it’s worth, my medical staff are one of the main reasons Manchester United have been so successful over the last few years. There is absolutely no doubt about that. I have fantastic medical staff and a great sports science team. Do you think we would be successful if we had an operation that wasn’t 100 per cent absolutely brilliantly done? The doctor, five physios and sports scientists are fantastic. That’s my opinion of Manchester United and it’s more important than what anyone else has to say about it.”
Sue the cunt.
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Hargreaves > Cunt
Cunt
Fucking imbredding cunt. To think i was initially defending his move…this guy is so ungrateful.
That’s tough to read i must say. We will never know the truth about all those 3 years, about him signing for us in the first place and his physical condition. And all those things he and the club will say are of no use i am afraid.
He has disappointed me !!!!!!
What ryhmes with Hargreaves?
Cunt
curly haired cunt
Really pissed off by this, the fuckin cheek of the man…..
Fucking twat. Hope he starts against United. I’d love to see Vida or Rooney take him out for another 3 years.
Hargreaves has disappointed me!
@.@
Curly haired cunt. Shocking treatment from United, paying his wages and all those medical bills while he sits in a casino all night doing fuck all.
We spent a shed load on him and the club are hardly going to inject him with some unknown stuff for the sake of it.
Also, before the wolves game, I’m sure Fergie stated that Hargreaves had been in training for nearly 2 months! So only a few minutes before the game he has two muscle tears! Even if the fucker had x-ray eyes and could see the tears, why they fuck would he be willing to play? Does he not have the balls to say, nope, I’m injured. And I don’t believe for a second that Fergie would send him out on the right wing with two muscle tears.
Sounds like he fucked his own knees up while at Bayern, and know wants someone to blame.
Oh Owen Hargreaves you was the love of lives we would have let you shag our wives, Oh Owen Hargreaves No one wants curly hair, you sneaky blue bitter, back stabbing, side show bob, stupid fucking hair do, sick note, three years thieving top dollar rat.
Funny how he’s not mentioned that he was still pulling in his 80g a whilst being sent round the fucking world to see specialists and having the best treatment money can buy. How the fuck can he even begin to think it was our fault. He was unlucky and got a bad injury and United did all they could to try and get a very good player playing again ( after spending 20m on him ) and for the cunt to even say that he tried to tell the medical staff he wasn’t ready before the Wolves game is just a load of fucking bollocks. Why would they risk him? If he had have told them his hamstring was tight they would have pulled him from the team surly. I hope we sue the fucking arse off him for trying to drag the United medical team through the mud. It’s slander in my book and i demand a full apology fom the thick fucking blue cunt.
Fucking Bastard…
@MileplattingRed
Do us a favour mate and pop across to wastelands and kick the fuckers knee in.
Can’t believe I’m going to say this as I thought he was a great player but the time had come to say goodbye – so it was thanks and good luck.
Now he is just a curly haired Canadian Cunt .
Why the fuck do they have do these stories – take some blame for fuck’s sake, you knew you had a problem.
Oh to have Keano back in the side to do a Haaland if he plays against us
no worries , he is where he belongs. With all those cunts as well
That fucking ingrate, we pay his wages for 3 years and give him the BEST treatment and pay for all those medical bills and then comes out with this crap.
I was happy for him scoring on Wednesday because he deserved to play again but after what he has said, he is a fucking cunt and we should sue the bastard.
Whoever slanders our club and our great man in the press is just a cunt, mind you going to Shitty can do that to you.
why offer to play for free for people that treat you like shit,it doesnt add up.you’ve moved to a desperate club,increase your pay and even played an hour in midweek so why not keep your mouth shut about us.why are some players like this,i really don’t have your time owen hagreaves
Fuck off owen … this is how it feels to be shity !
fucking arrogant bitter cunt hargreaves is a canadian troll hope we fucking take that cunt to the cleaners, you are gonna get it
starting 2 be a poor show now didnt see any quotes like this before he feathered his nest and landed his citeh deal
there was a blog a few weeks back and he came over decent and respectful but just needs 2 hush now and move on we certainly have owen
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Prick.will make it even funnier when he snaps in half in their next game
http://tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-fullback-fabio-wins-first-brazil-call-1898901
first call-up to the national side for Fabio. happy for our little man.
Hargreaves the cunt is dead to me.
Sue his corpse, use the proceeds to delete him from every picture and record.
giggs12gerrard0
Im on my way buddy. I can see the place from my window and it makes me fucking sick. My neighbour is a blue nose cunt so last year coming home from the pub pissed i hadf a shit on his deck chair in his garden and wipped my arse on one of his towels hung on the line. And the funniest thing was i could hear him moaning about it to my bird the next morning saying that theres some dirty fuckers around. I couldn’t stop laughing.
Blue cunts.
It sounds like citeh tell there players to slag off United as soon as they get there. Bitter cunts. Anyway, Hargreaves will prove he was a waste of money to them as well, esp if his knees are in as bad a way that Steadman said they are.
“Do you think we would be successful if we had an operation that wasn’t 100 per cent absolutely brilliantly done?”
The 09-10 league title we lost because of our defensive injury crisis tends to differ.
Off topic (or maybe on, depends on how you look at it), Vidic has yet to return from a calf injury that was supposed to keep him out 2 weeks, 7 weeks ago.
wouldn’t worry to much about it, just a KNEE-JERK reaction like any bitter blue, predictable. Wont be too long before he is injured again. I do love SAF’s last comment….”That’s my opinion of Manchester United and it’s more important than what anyone else has to say about it.”. what a guy!
To be honest, he hid his problem from Bayern and now he’s blaming ManU! I’m so mad & hope he get crippled for good by a defender from another team.
i was one of the ones that originally bashed him……CUNT REALLY PISSED NOW I HOPE HE CHOKES ON HIS KNEES fucking blue scum asshole prick faced knob head
gutted by his comment.
Yeah, how easy is for people to change their opinion of footballers and human-beings these days. Or maybe there wasn’t an opinion in the first place ?
I will remember him in his first season and that’s all. I can understand his bitterness and there aren’t many saints around you know these days. He isn’t.
Just a point
I thought counts were supposed to be sexually arousing!
Obviously Hargreaves isn’t arousing then.
Yes Costas… your little Vidic example speaks VOLUMES of our system… pffft..
I had to say i feel sorry and sad for this lad when his interview came out a few weeks ago,
but i had to say i was shock to see his interview today.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Damn fucking typo above
counts?
He confirmed his knee popped about a month before his transfer from Bayern and when you consider how long the transfer took to complete it’s obvious he stiffed United then.Anyway who cares what he has to say apart from journalist’s milking copy.Hope he sues United I would like nothing better than seeing him wriggling under oat, but there is no chance of ever seeing that he’s to clever by half.
Oh, conspiracy theories. Sir Alex is a liar, now? You’re right though, lets take the word of Hargreaves, over our manager. Hope the club sue him. Lets see if any other players back him up. I’d call that a pattern. Injuries occur. Of course, if you’ve got 100% prove, that this isn’t the case, then do tell? We lost the title in 09, because Rooney got injured at Bayern. Of course, I could say, we didn’t spend any of the Ronaldo money. Maybe if we did, we’d of won the league. It’s all subjective, Costas.
such a classless,dick-headed moron. Wish super mario fucking injur him in training. Wat a BITCH
Oh fuck it who cares we have a match on tomorrow and thats more important
Can’t be fucking around with those who couldn’t be bothered to catch the bus
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Let the tame lawyers take a look, sounds pretty close to slander to me.
Here’s a thought. From the crock that United won’t even take for free, to goal-scoring debutant is just too fast a transition. Methinks he is as good at hiding his recovery as he was his disability when we signed him.
The odour of betrayal is in the air.
Like I’ve said several times, he’s a blue now so fuck him and the rest of the mercenary cunts over there!!! Focus on the quality at united that would have kept him out the team even without his fucked up legs!! We should expect nothing else, city put it in all playing contracts that their first statement should ignore the club they’ve joined and focus fully on slating United!! MASSIVE!!!
@Milesplattingred, crazy stuff there mate…almost sound like what goes on over as scouseland.
Costas – I’m repeating this part of my comment erroneously put on the previous thread,
I have wondered if we are not fooled by Sir Alex’ mind games with regard to expected recovery times. An example of this is Vidic, who seemed critical to our success as the season started. To reduce pressure on our young reserves (Evans, Smalling, Jones) Sir Alex may have dismissed Nemanja’s injury as minor and short-lived. The youngsters would then think they have a brief opportunity to show their qualities; rather than feel the media’s unrelenting glare as long-term replacements. Disinformation has often worked well for us in the past, where players (eg Carrick) are expected to be out for weeks, then start the next game.
@Costas – How does out medical department take the blame for our defensive crisis a few years back? It doesn’t stop injuries occurring! Plus it can’t perform miracles., they have to deal with the human body and if it takes longer than normal there’s not a lot they can do about it.
@SAFrican : I do believe his knee is just like Steadman said. He’s a man made from glasses. Why is it so hard just to say thank u United for everything and shut the fuck up? What an ungrateful cunt !!
Wee ballbag.
@MilesplattingRed
Mate that is quality cant stop laughing…..
@costas we did lose our title partly to those injuries in 09/10 season,but it doesnt make hagreaves rubbish any valid.atleast our defenders did come back and played a greater role last season,it was just unfortunate.hargo is saying he was forced to play,we worsen his injury etc,thats unaceptable.and vidic was always goin to be out for 5weeks not 2weeks and has the boss said his recovery has bin slow.afterall welbeck came back ahaed of schedule like many before him.i even remembered our medics treated scholes blurr vision,something that retired an ex villa player,sutton i think.be it as it may,we should always back our staff.so fuck off hagreaves
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/22/owen-hargreaves-manchester-city-united
Daniel Taylor from the Guardian absolutely taking the sheep’s arse haired bellend firmly down his throat on this article. What an absolute drivel-writing muppet.
He finishes with this:
“And there are already signs the story could be a happier one on the blue side of Manchester rather than the red.”
59 minutes in three years and a decent start to the season by the bitters-not as good as ours- constitutes this fairytale fucking journalism. I can’t believe that they can even pass this off as informative reading- it’s flight of fucking fancy material. No mention that he cost about £900,000 per game he played.
We were ready to let you off the hook Jake-the-Peg but you really have ruined yourself there you fucking German Canadian prick.
As for the article itself; DANIEL TAYLOR you sir, are a feckless wonder.
i was sorry that i sympathised for him..
@Corea why do i sense you don’t have any trust for what the manager said…or at least leave his statement with a benefit of doubt? Just an observation from your first and last post on tie matter.@Corea why do i sense you don’t have any trust for what the manager said…or at least leave his statement with a benefit of doubt? Just an observation from your first and last post on tie matter.
@Briggsy
It takes them too long to deal with injuries and as a result they pile up. I remember 3 instances that season where Fergie admitted that they couldn’t get to the root of a problem. O’Shea’s injury that kept him out until April, Edwin’s knee problem (eventually he was sent to a Dutch doctor to find out what was wrong) and Vidic’s nerve injury just before the Leeds game that kept him out for almost 2 months. In the mean time, we dropped 7 points at Birmingham, Villa and Everton. Hence my comment about the injuries (particulary Vida’s) being costly that season.
@smartalex
I responded in that thread mate.
hast it occurred to anyone that this could be mind games from bobby manc and the city crew. They could be going all out to derail our season. Or am i being paranoid here
@smartalex, bit thoughtful theory on Sir Alex’s recovery mind games there…lol.
What a fuckin’ ingrate.
SEPTEMBER 23, 2011 AT 12:05
giggs12gerrard0 says:
What ryhmes with Hargreaves?
“fucked knees” in a cod German accent.
Costas – I see that, thanks!
@aliasrns5
Not good enough for you? Here:
http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/clubs/14/manchester_united_injuries.html
pffft
Oh and to add, no medical team is perfect, ours have had a couple of flailing around over the years but have been fantastic for us. I get where Costas is coming from, Vida and Rio are prime examples of not getting the full gist. That must come from the top though, we’ve trusted them thus far and i’ll continue to do so
Just to make a bigger cunt out hargreaves than he already has himself i just heard on the radio mancini has even came out and dismissed the united medical staff where to blame.
SirAlex’sSon – Intrigue and mystery! SmartAgatha!
fucking cunt
Hiya fellas, not been here for a while, but feel I need to vent my ire on this Hargreaves situation. I was genuinely gutted when his time with Utd came to an end, I was hoping he’d get a pay as you play contract and to see him wear the shirt again, but that wasn’t to be. I still hoped he would be able to find a club and get his career back on track and would have been pleased to see him play again. That was until he signed for City, how dare he when he had other options. I always thought he was a nice guy, a good professional, someone who genuinely understood our club and it’s fans and never thought he’d be the type to purposely put our backs up. Disappointed as I was he joined City, I still thought he’d done it for the good of his career, not to get one over Utd. Now, after this bullshit he’s come out with today, I get the feeling he’s a bit bitter with Utd, (he’s obviously at the right club now then). How dare he criticise a club that’s paid his wages without return for 3 years, and have the cheek to say he was rushed back to play. 3 f**king years, is that what he calls rushed. They were saying on talkshite that he’s probably been misinterpreted! He’s not so niave to know that, if he chooses to speak to the press about this stuff, they’ll make a headline out of it. I’m f**king fuming that he’s spoken about our club like this, I really thought the lad had more class than that, obviously not. Of all the players I’ve disliked over the years, I’d never wish any harm to any of them, but this c**t, I hope he breaks his f**king legs next time he’s out on the pitch. Sorry for the language, I’m not normally so vulgar, but I now rate him above JT in the c**ts table.
Sir Alex says –
That’s my opinion of Manchester United,
and it’s more important than what anyone else has to say about it.”
Thats the bottom line.
Meanwhile “Hargo” is clocking up more minutes talking than playing, no class whatsoever.
Gormless twat.
Sue the shit outta that piece of crap
Well said MG!
The bloke’s gone. Yes he’s slagged us but I couldn’t give two shits to be honest!
What’s the point in getting pissed off or being gutted at someone who means nothing to you anymore? The club will sort it through the courts if they want to.
Hargreaves is a mere footnote in our history and nothing to do with our future.
Well fucking said Scott. Spot on. The two faced prick.
FARKED KNEES!!!
FARKED KNEES!!!
(In the nicest way possible, of course… sportsmanship and dignity and all that)
@SirAlex’sSon – i would happily give Sir Alex the benefit of a doubt of course. But we will never know the truth in the Hargo’s case as in the other possible cases of that kind.
I just try to say that not everyone is a cunt and it is far to easy to change the tune these days.
Hargo could have and maybe should have behaved in a more humble and honest manner but he isn’t a saint.
CUNT!
I find it rather funny that our medical team is being criticised! They are human beings and not 100% perfect so to suggest they were to blame for 09/10 when injuries happened IN QUICK SUCCESSION, Afterall They were not the ones tackling the Players. The issue is a non starter! Players are different in the way they respond to injuries and treatments and so to now blame United after initially blaming Bayern is simply ridiculous. Then to think of it The GUINEA PIG offered to play for free despite being a treatment guinea pig. Think Of It
Just throwing this out there. As much as I’m no fan of hearing players slag off my club, especially former players, part of me couldn’t help but think, “Saha, Ole, even Paul McGrath”. We have a bit of a history of players who were broken here who went on to continue useful careers elsewhere. Ole doesn’t fit that pattern because he never left, but he also never recovered from knee issues.
Hargreaves could be totally full of shit, but It never hurts to internally audit medical principles and practices, especially when tens of millions of pounds are in the balance. We spent tons on that guy in transfer fees, wages and medical bills, and got less than 15 minutes in return over the last 3 years.
Why wouldn’t you ask questions when a guy scores goals for a Premiership club after our doctors said he was finished? If it means the next injury is better tended to, it would be worth it.
SB
Milesplatting – Shat on his sunbed. Fucking superb mate. Hilarious. Is that true?
Ahh guess @King Eric is fuming now, since you’ve disliked the cunt since him move to the bitters.
@smartalex, lol. How are you doing mate? Ahh guess @King Eric is fuming now, since you’ve disliked the cunt since him move to the bitters.
@smartalex, lol. How are you doing mate?
I told you guys three weeks ago what was going on!
http://agentoffergie.blogspot.com/2011/09/dr-mario.html
Nobody ever listens until it’s too late…
“United are one of the biggest clubs in the world with Barcelona and Real Madrid. They have a lot of wonderful people there. I’m sad for myself that I wasn’t able to play a bigger part there. I really envisaged it going differently but it didn’t materialise the way I anticipated. They’ve moved on now and they’ve got a wonderful group of players. The young guys who are coming through look great. So I’m happy for them as well. But this is a new chapter in my life.”
I don’t know what to make of the Hargo saga. He does come off as a genuinely nice bloke at times, but I thought he could have handled the transfer better.
His point about our medical staff could be a valid one, for all you know, but I’ll gladly give Fergie the benefit of the doubt.
Saying someone was out for 2 weeks, then it went to 5 weeks, is neither here or there. We don’t know whats going on behind the scenes. The estimation could be to a setback in their recovery. Giggs suffered from hamstring problems for years. As did Micheal Owen. The human body is very complex. Some players recover quickly. Rooney and Ronado, to name two. I’d tend to focus on the nimble boots, and the firm pitches. I wouldn’t call into question the medical staff’s credentials, because I’m not qualified to do so. If more players come out and back Hargreaves story, that would be different.
Corea – Hello mate. Good to hear from you on here.
What?? Hello mate.
slim – No mate, I don’t think you are being paranoid. Those blue cunts will try anything. Their jealousy hold no bounds. Why the fuck is their training ground called Carrington? All that Richard Madely cunt does is talk about United. Fuck off you suave bastard.
Off topic but good to hear Big Pete S saying he honestly thinks De Gea is a top keeper and will be a superstar. Said with him Lindergaard and Amos we have the best bunch of keepers for years.
@Bishopville Red
Agreed.
@COSTAS, Saw Your post on Twitter Too, yes I agree what I dont like is that He makes it look like We destroyed His knees.
SirAlex’s Son – Yeah mate as you can imagine. I am not best pleased but fuck him. We have an abundance of talent at this club with shit loads on the conveyor belt. Let those bitter scum sign our rejects.
Rather than this turn into a play ground, “you’re a cunt”, “no, you’re a cunt” type of scenario, why aren’t legal proceedings being taken. If the Canadian thinks that United fucked up 3 years of his career, sue. If United think that he’s talking shite, sue him.
Well, now we shud actually be “grateful” at that cunt’s action.
He’s obviously officially joined the Shitty gang and behave like one — so we shud not have any moral sorry if he plays against us in the derby and Vidic snapped him into two… Let’s see if Shitty’s medic team can fix him back…
Being a medical staff myself — I can’t stand anyone stabbing the back of the medical staff doing the very best for all their patients…
Go F*** off with Tevez the cunt, Hargreaves — you two are match made in hell…
@King Eric – hello mate. it’s nice to see that you are remembered on here.
I am a bit busy these days, found my piece of love, so no activity in here but i will be back. United has become through years a massive part of my life.
Corea – You are doubting Sir Alex’s honesty and calling the club liars before a statement has even been issued! This based on a statement from a city player.
loyal : giving or showing firm and constant support or allegiance to a person or institution.
Try it!
Haven’t read all the comments, but here’s my two cents.
First and foremost, if he felt that the United medical team weren’t up to scratch, he could’ve easily walked into the Boss’ office and said so when he was on the treatment table. He could’ve stopped any of the treatments if, at the time, he felt that they were doing more harm than good. Ultimately, you know more about your body than anybody else and it is your responsibility to control its health. This holds true for anybody as much as it does for a footballer. So, the entire process of this interview is to shift blame to somebody else and I am having none of it.
Timing – These speak volumes about Hargreaves intentions with this interview. There were a number of times over the past few years where he could’ve highlighted his thoughts on the shortcomings of the United medical team. He chose not to. He could’ve highlighted them in the downtime when he was doing all those fitness videos without having a contract on him. Ideally, this would’ve been the best time from his point of view. His words would’ve been seen for what they are and many United fans would’ve actually been made more skeptical of our medical team at the time. Yet again, he chose not to.
The fact that he chose to speak these kinds of words right now is really disgusting to be honest. It was after his first game in City colours where he scored a frankly screamer of a goal. He didn’t even wait for anything to die down. He must’ve realized that seeing him score such a goal is torture enough for United fans, but, NO!, he had to pile on more agony for Mancunians by coming with this statement. Whatever little support he might’ve had from fans like me, Cedars, Stateside etc. is completely gone now, and he has chose to alienate himself by acting like a total knobhead.
Words – If you read closely, some of the things he has to say about our medical team are fairly ludicrous. He says that he was forced to play in the Wolves game despite not being 100% fit. This theory was ripped to shreds by Annie Eaves wonderfully on her blog. Anybody who thinks Sir Alex is stupid enough to play an unfit Hargreaves who has a hamstring problem in a match definitely needs to get their priorities right.
Secondly, he somehow chooses to highlight City’s apparently excellent medical team in an interview where the sole purpose was to highlight our shortcomings. This is the deal-breaker right here. It clearly shows that his intention was to serve as a propaganda (like countless others before him) for City more than to get sympathy votes from fans. It is completely ludicrous to assume that he has somehow gotten better in the three weeks he has been at City, that might not have happened had he continued with us. It is one of football’s greatest mysteries. Owen Hargreaves got better and fully fit. It would’ve happened anywhere in the world, but to use it as an argument to show City’s medical team as being better than ours again demonstrates the distinct lack of class that we had associated with him.
Thirdly, he also goes on to highlight that how he feels “part of a team” at City. Anybody who thinks this statement is valid has gone completely bonkers. You can kind of get where he is coming from – The fact that he was crocked most of the time for us would’ve made him feel alienated from the rest of the squad. But to use that to again boost up City’s status again highlights just how much of a classless person he has become.
Those last two themes have highlighted are especially valid and necessary. It shows that he has become like any other Manchester City player whose sole purpose in life to propagate City’s values while taking potshots at United.
Beyond all this, I can completely understand why Costas is cynical of our medical team. Our general medical record speaks for itself and we’ve had a lot of injuries over the years that have remained mysteries. However, I have blind faith in Sir Alex Ferguson. I completely believe every word he says as if it were uttered by God himself. When Sir Alex says that he is happy with his medical team and that it is the best in the world, I see no reason to argue otherwise. I’ve just started reading his biography and it is pretty clear that he values his players’ mental and physical health above all else. So, I absolutely cannot see him having an incompetent medical team at his side especially when the fate of our overall team depends entirely on the medical attention they get. Call me naive, but that’s how I see it.
Finally, any validity in Hargreaves’ statements is counteracted by the timing and the potshots at United while glorifying City as I pointed out above. His aim was for this interview to serve as a propaganda for his higher masters rather than winning himself some sympathy votes. He has blown himself off the park with this one. Except City fans, much of the world is siding with United on this one. Many people are saying that he should’ve kept his traps shut instead of bad-mouthing his previous employers when they have put their heart and soul in efforts to get him back to fitness. He has shown himself to be a classless person. Personally, I was indifferent to his move to City because it didn’t matter to us. But now, he has made it personal. I can’t see United taking him to court on this one, but I wish we would.
Dear Owen Hargreaves,
Thanks for sparking up the siege mentality again you stupid Bitter cunt.
Your pal,
Cyril.
@Bishopville, have to disagree with you there. Saha has always been injury prone, even after leaving United. I think Everton fc will attest to that.
Bottom line, players simply react differently to injuries+in Ole’s case i admit he had those injuries but i think as he his 30s, he took much more longer to recover, which if we are being honest, is unfair to lay the blame on the physios.
@Corea very well then…
McGrath was a known drinker. That’s the reason he was let go. Your lifestyle can lead to persistent injuries. Ledley King is another one.
Lets destroy the bitters when we meet them, and show the cunt hargreaves how football is played at OT, ungrateful piece of shit
SirAlex’s Son – I’m good, thanks buddy! How are you doing?
dela – I see you also express your doubt in Sir Alex, so good of you to be prepared to give him the benefit of your favour should proof remain clouded. I’m sure he’ll be relieved that you put his word slightly before a City player’s word.
I actually agree with those demanding legal action be taken. Accusing Sir Alex of using him while he was injured is a very big deal. That shouldn’t go unanswered.
I wonder if City players from proper football clubs like United and Arsenal find an extra thirty pieces of silver in their wages when they piss on their old clubs in this way. It wouldn’t surprise me because there is hardly a player joined City that hasn’t slagged off his old club, or old team mates, or the fans after doing so. It’s like the first thing they do when they’ve signed is stick a microphone in their face and ask, “So, just in case you haven’t alienated everybody who supported you before, is there anything you’d like to say to really piss them off?”
Not that I necessarily think he took much persuading to talk shit about United, but fuck Hargreaves anyway.
And fuck City for this policy. It’s clearly a PR stunt. They are trying to raise their profile by attacking their rival clubs not on the pitch, but with PR. When Nasri comes out and slags off the Arsenal fans, or a precession of knobends line up and say nobody in Manchester supports United, it’s all part of a calculated, yet infantile campaign to make them look misunderstood, sympathetic and old school. Their story is that they are a plucky local club that made it big. And when they sign guys like Hargreaves they want to look sympathetic, giving him his chance and so on. It’s bollocks, and everybody knows it, even their own fans.
It’s a sham and it’s lazy. Any great club, any successful club, knows that you let your football do the talking.
@willie am with you all through.i am backing our medical staff fully…maybe chelsea lost the league last season because of their injuries,their medics are rubbish and arsenal’s medics are total non-existence..for some of us to critize our staff because of some unfound rubbish is sickening.am out@willie am with you all through.i am backing our medical staff fully…maybe chelsea lost the league last season because of their injuries,their medics are rubbish and arsenal’s medics are total non-existence..for some of us to critize our staff because of some unfound rubbish is sickening.am out
Doghouse is spot on at 13:40.
Remember the Tevez poster? That was erected by the club, as a part of the same campaign.
Hargreaves is a cunt
Ha! what about you cunts that had a go when I said I wanted Hargreaves to be bent up and fucked up so bad that he not only never played football again but could be fitted under any fuckers patio no matter how small the garden when he first joined City. This was just a formality and hes getting payed for coming out with damning comments to try and ruffle Uniteds feathers by making us out to be the villains and the destroyer of the national side and its players.
Cunt Hargreaves, I think alot of you need to look in the fucking mirror.
@ King Eric
It certainly is my friend. I’d hated the prick for a while and not being much of a fighter i decided to have a massive shit on his deck chair to show him how much of a blue cunt he was. The towel was an added bonus.
@balaji well said@balaji well said
The Goats perspective lol.
BY ALL EVIDENCE IT ONLY TAKes FEW WEEKS TO BECOME A PRICK when you are among others where there every1 is of the same quality = BLUE ULCERS
I think we are much better off saving this debate for later in the season. In fact Hargreaves would have shown maturity if he saved his comments for the end of this season or had come out earlier with his comments. I am hoping if he had concerns, he raised them while at United, and if he didn’t he’s a bigger muppet than he appears to be now. In any case, IF he makes it throught the season with a decent fitness record, then it might be fair to ask what exactly kept him form performing for even a fraction of that time for United, and why we did not hold on to him this summer. Why did city’s doctors clear him to sign a new contract and United’s presumably said it wasn’t worth it? In short, whether there might be something to what he’s saying. If he falls apart again, then he just looks like an idiot and this isn’t really worth our time. My two cents, I think part of the reason for him leaving i(or us letting him go) is likely to be a fundamental disagreement between club and player about this very issue, him medical and fitness management.
As for the injury assessments, I think we can disregard the post-match ones, that’s likely SAF assessing from his experience, or trying to make a point – for instance saying Clevs might been out for months/broken foot etc. Apart from that, part of it is no doubt mind games, especially where we see players coming back earlier than expected. I think the concern which needs to be acknolwedged (and this is Costas point) is why do we have multiple delays with some injuries, and why does this happen so often? I’m not questioning the medical team, but I am wondering why we have such a horrid time treating the older players to some form of match fitness. Is it just their age (for sure part of it) or is there something else? Its an open question because on the one hand we have had guys like Giggs/EDVS going on till the age of 40, and on the other we have guys in their early 30s just falling apart. Rio is the clear case, Owen is often out, Vidic seems to be going the Rio way pretty fast, and numerous other instances.
And on a separate note, I really dislike the insinuation that is made by some here that you are only a United supporter if you hold the club to do no wrong, and accept everything the club and its players say/do unquestioningly. True support of anything (club, family, country) lies in critical inquiry into everything, Asking questions is central to that. My humble opinion, but supporting anything isn’t worth it/productive if you don’t ask questions of it every once in a while. That doesn’t mean we question anything/everything for the heck of it, without basis. But to say any questioning is wrong is dangerous.
@smartalex – i think you are going too far saying i am calling some people liars of something.
This kind of injuries and medical stuff in general are sometimes very complicated to deal with. I am not doubting the honesty of our medical stuff which is a really a stupid thing to do. They could have made mistakes in judging his injury. But this thing do happen. Anyway i am not a specialist in this so i will reserve my judgment on this.
Hargreaves is bitter and i can understand him. He could have and maybe should have been more polite and humble about the whole thing but he actually hasn’t. That’s his choice and he will have to live with it.
Try to be somewhat more accurate in what you say and how you judge what people say. Otherwise i would ignore everything you throw at me. Thanks and have a great weekend.
Milesplatting @ 12.31 pure class mate.
I can’t believe there are people here doubting our medical staff. Injuries happen in football it’s largely down to luck. People are remembering all the other crocks we’ve had, but what about the success stories. Valencia last year, Alan Smith, Roy Keane, we managed to keep him going even with a dodgy hip. If our medical team were not up to scratch, do you think Fergie wouldn’t have got it sorted? He wants success for our club and means being the best in every depatment.
King Eric – Hows it going mate? So far so good this season aye?
Last thoughts, Alex already said it was all in Hargreaves mind, and his “wonder goal” proves it.
Doubt very much this alternative treatment was so radically different it “saved” his career. The biggest problem all round was lack of bottle end of. He didn’t even play the last mins of matches but within weeks hes running about playing and scoring? Nah.
Owen is the complete opposite, he’s got bottle. As a real professional, Owen can step up to the first team and give a world class performance despite his fitness concerns. Hargo can’t handle that responsibility bcos hes not on the same level. He’d rather be safely down Citys pecking order.
Scott is spot on, all this SLANDER can’t be justified. Saha never said anything but thank you to United’s medical staff, even when his fitness picked back up at Everton. Look at King or Johnson or Zamora etc theres loads of players trudging on without blaming their form on their Clubs medical staff – but this curly headed muppet has no shame acting like a victim.
Pathetic really, and he HAS said enough to established liability. THAT says it all.
I personally blame the Goat
Cunt!!!! I had nothing but respect for him even when he went and signed for shitty but now im hoping he breaks down again!!!! i guess signing for a classless club turns you into a classless cunt!!!!
Milesplatting @ 12.31 pure class mate. May you continue the good work.
As I write this the word CUNT has been used 41 times, either some one has:
a) upset SmartAlex
b) mentioned Joey Barton
c) Someone just chew’d and spat out the hand that fed them for a couple of years.
I think its A and C to be honest!
Hargreaves will not be remmebered for his football in 5 years let alone 20. He will be remembered for being a cunt though, and breaking the RoM record for being associated with that word – CUNT.
I never liked him, I bet his cock is well small, I think hes a taker and not a giver if you know what I mean!
Laters Lads.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Bavaria….
“Ya, Ya, we zold Owen Farked Knees to Yunited, the Champions League is Ow-ahs”
- Evil German Laugh
Corea – Have a great weekend!
Spot on @Balaji.
@smartalex, Im very well my friend.
Back to work now. Keep it Red mates!Spot on @Balaji.
@smartalex, Im very well my friend.
Back to work now. Keep it Red mates!
@James
If you really want to see the word Cunt used, almost more than the sum total of all other words combined on a thread- check out ones about John Terry.
The Cunt.
I genuinely hope he plays for Shitty when we met them next month at OT. We would not want to miss the chance to tell him what we think of him in person !
STINKING CUNT!!!!
@smartalex – point taken.
It was nice to see some familiar faces on here with valuable posts as always. You deserve to be the part of the golden era of this blog and you make this blog.
Sad to witness threads like this one but with people we’ll never know.
We’ll never die. I guess i all come through different patches in our lives. Now i am more concerned with muy personal life. Maybe i am not a hard one of the fan’s army but anyway it is how i am.
Have a great weekend and a win tomorrow with me watching the game with the person i believe i love will do.
As I said on the other thread – the people I feel sorry for are our medical team who cannot answer back and who must be demoralised by the shit they are reading… but they just have to suck it up and go to work with the whole world thinking they messed up some players career, or that they are sub-standard in treating injuries.
As also stated while I agree with @ Costas that we need to be objective about our Club and criticism where people feel it is due is fine, no business or person gets things right all the time – but it is absolutey NOT true that United statistically in the EPL have more injuries or are worse at treating them. In fact it was one of the first Clubs to introduce prgrammes like Yoga as part of the fitness regime and its programmes have been copied not just in the EPL but throughout the world.
Let’s just take Liverpool – Torres was out for ages last year, now Gerard – their medical team must be shit. Initially they even had to gall to say Gerard would be back sooner. Xavi and Cesc were out for longer than anticipated, Pques is out, Aresnal and Barca must have shit medical teams too. Drogba was out, Essien was out Chelsea medical team must be shit as well.
The EPL is a HIGH intensity league. Injuries and wear and tear are inevitable. United is a HIGH intensity training club which is very competitive, player are pushed to their max, this is part of their job, this will also increase risk of injury – it’s an occupational hazard – do you expect a boxer never to get injured? Some people are also more prone to injuries especially when young or older. Have you seen some of the tackles in the EPL? In particular if like Hargreaves you try to cover a problem up – I have zero sympathy, he caused his own problems by wanting to play and not being straight about his condition. The Club followed standard procedure, in his case it did not work but there is NO evidence it made things worse as there are NO known long term side effects to the injections he had.
Also his 2 muscle tears re Wolves – they found those AFTER the game. Before he just said he felt a tight hamstring, which is not that unusual, and thats why players stretch. Lots of United players have pulled out in warm ups – Saha, Rio, why couldn’t he? He wanted to play, he wanted to succeed, at any price, including to himself. Humiliating a Club that could have sacked him or tried to sell him 3 years ago in this manner is really beneath contempt. This a bitter twisted man speaking.
And yes, I did expect more from him than Tevez because he said he was a FAN and that his dream was to play for United and he pushed Bayern to sell him to United. I expected him to behave at least like Beckham, Rudd, Keano (one of whom was hit in the head with a shoe others who were chucked out for manager conflict) Butt, P Neville, Saha, Wes, O’Shea and many others, who have left the Club and kept their mouths shut by and large and if they did speak about United or the manager they rated both him and the Club.
Expert views vary, and it may be that another expert told him United should have done things differently with hindsight. However, there is no evidence here that United did anything other than the usual and completely acceptable treatment for these injuries and Hargreaves knees were already seriously fucked.
Oh i see now he’s Canadian think if you lads check it was the England shirt he was putting on.lol
Fuck – apologies for that post being so long, was caught up in what I was writing – back to work now.
God I love me a good conspiracy theory….. Here is what I think is really going on. The medical staff at United have put together an evil plan to overthrow Sir Alex and take over control of the club. The evil doctors and nurses (All in latex) are injecting our players with career damaging substances therefore ensuring that their injuries take far longer to heel and therefore making the boss look like a fool when addressing the media. Said players are then forced out on a free after costing the club millions of pounds only to join our bitter rivals. If these evil monsters are allowed to continue than soon enough half of our squad would leave to join other clubs and revive their careers which in turn would weaken United and make the winning anything almost impossible. The boss would then have to resign whilst Dr Evil and co would take over…
Its all happening folks
I’m for being objective. I wish though, when players get criticized, we don’t get our knickers in a twist. I hate personal abuse, but there are some that give constructive criticism, and still get castigated. The point being, some pick and choose, when they want to be objective. Just saying…. I wouldn’t wish harm on Hargreaves. He’s made his bed now. I want to see how the club responds to his accusations.
I was one who said let the lad move on but these latest statements show no class.I really have to question the signing from the first place.Utds medical team must have known he had a problem from the beginning it was no secret he had plenty of problems at Bayern and likewise he also knew did he deceive the club? hard to believe with modern technology,having said that no millionaire is going to be forced into anything he doesn’t want to do in regards to the injections
I’ve always said it was shared responsiblilty that first year and still believe that.No way Sir Alex is going to make him play injured that’s just fucking stupid Sir Alex should sue him that’s slandering someone’s name.
Cedars – You could be on to something, there?
Surprisingly, Mancini opted not to pour oil into the fire. He’s probably more concerned about his job, wondering what might happen should they drop more points.
I have to hold my hands up here. I was part of the pple defending hargreaves against those who slagged him off. You guys obviously saw something i did not see. Hargreaves is a first class slimeball. fits in SEAMLESSLY at shitty. After all we did for him he repays us like that,
And to believe i defended his move and sang his song for three years. Motherfucker. May he break both his legs and have his knee-cups ripped off! That cunt
I’ve got to say though, I don’t THINK the Club will bother with suing. But I would like a statement from the club which is understated by clearly points to the fact that the club have spent massive resources on this player, who gave us a handful of games and not much else, with very little gratitude in return. That it was something that wasn’t expected from Hargreaves, but that he has proved to be disrespectful to say the least. If Hargreaves has a conscience, I think a classy response will serve as well as a combative one like suing his ass…
@Willierednut @14.23
Completely agree mate about your points people get to sensitive or emotional, i for one like being objective when I think it is needed.
To all those who are buying the crap about our medical let’s look abroad..Milan are a club famed with keeping their playing running into their later 30′s right now half of the squad is injured.Barca have iniesta 4 weeks out Sanchez 8weeks and affelay 9months.Puyol is their Rio Ferdinand,Puyol cant play a full season anymore.Would you say the medical team is crap?No team can succeed with a crap medical team its as important as squad depth.If anyone’s to be blamed for hargreaves problems its Bayern who rushed him back before his tendons settled and he got infected there.
Excuse me, but we’ve got Stoke this weekend.
I can’t see what the fuss over all this is to be honest. Since when has the ABU media dictated the agenda to us? Daniel Taylor, the journalist who wrote the piece, has been banned from OT before so I’m not falling for his spin now. The article itself is quite clever in that some of the so called quotes or issues can be interpreted in different ways depending on your agenda. On the other hand I’m not hanging on with bated breath for United’s response because, quite frankly, I don’t think the issue means shit and the club should not be exercising itself unduly over interviews with former players.
We’ve got bigger fish to fry. In this connection, I repeat, we’ve got Stoke this weekend.
Hargo did fine for us when he actually played, but he got crocked, When his contract ran out, after more layoff time than playing time, he reckoned he was fine and wanted to stay, we quite reasonably said no, so he packed his tools and got offered a berth at a smaller club. He’s gone. An ex United player. A dead parrot. End of. Whether Hargo thinks he was a ‘guinea pig’ or not who cares and so what? I’m pretty sure he’s not medically qualified to make that call.
Finally, just in case the point hasn’t sunk in, we’ve got Stoke this weekend. Now that’s something which is important.
Costas – Hello mate. Usually I agree with you on a lot of things but on this one pal I think you’re wrong.
If SAF’s medical team weren’t up to scratch they would have been sacked a long time ago. The boss would know if they were continually misdiagnosing his players – he’d be well pissed off. I think Cedars is onto something with his theory of the boss not always telling the media the extent of the injuries.
SAF is a good man, but he loses patience when refs give the wrong decision………he would have no mercy on ripping the doctors apart if they didn’t know what they were doing!!!
Id also like to say that to sue Hargreaves for slander would be impossible as there isnt a case to answer. He has named a part within an organisation and not specified individuals. The organisation (Manchester United) or the medical team could not argue that BOTH there reputations have been put into question and that they in turn will lose future earnings because of the critisism received. Unfortunately this is a case of someone voicing their opinion. It is the same as voicing your opinion that Hargreaves is a cunt, actually its not as this wouldnt make him too popular down the canal where he reads stories for burly polish builders as they are expecting something with curly pubes where mr tinkles the gerble comes out when beckoned in one of his stories instead of a soggy wellietop in which you are implying. This would indeed make him decidedly unpopular and he would have to go to the truck stop instead, where the money isnt as plenty and get raped and murdered in the process. This is a case of slander or libel as it is read here. So can we stop calling him a cunt. He is a fake yank with a track record of taking it up the Kaiser and devouring countless numbers of german sausage before throwing a sicky and mixing with the likes of a bosnian rent boy, a druggy, kettle neck and maffia don Bellendonteli.
Costas – Vidic might not make the Liverpool game anyway. That bloody calf injury!
I love Cedars conspiracy theory
Sounds like a movie I’d like to write
In other news Boas reckons they were the superior side last Sunday.
I didn’t quite see that but if he chooses to believe that then…
This was a totally uncalled for statement to make by Hargreaves. Unless he’s from another planet then he must know what he’s bringing on himself. Many fans including my self wished him well, then came the bombshell o
That satelite has just landed…
on Owen Hargeaves, suppose thats Uniteds fault too!
Anyone saw the goal he scored? It was a cracker & and nobody in a blue shirt bothered to celebrate with him. He ran, he celebrated, and turned around only to see nobody else bothered. Only after a while did they bother to go over to go congrats him.
That is how it feels like to be in a team of mercenaries
one thing for sure,
Hargreaves beat the shit outta BALAJI..look at his marathon post on the cunt
Hello King Eric,
good evening mate,
we had to take a lot of stick in the beginning for criticsing this cunt, all along our instincts were right and we were right, this is not a matter of saying we are right, dont know but somehow we had figured this cunt..
he is a wanker..
Made me so angry when I read this in the paper this morning….
My theory is that he spent all his money on smoking crack all these years and it’s addled his mind….
Shit pressed publish by mistake. Can’t be arsed to type it all again. If it wasn’t for United’s medical staff I doubt Hargreaves would still even have a future at any club.
Looks like the Shittyness has gotten to him. Fuck him and all the rest of those blue sad bastards.
hi guys i am a surgeon (urologist) and united fan..hargo is a cunt..tendinitis is a complex thing, straight away u can’t do a surgery on inflammed tendons unlike fractures..first united doc’s did was to bring down the inflammation they injected steriods in his knees (conservative approach) and rest ..when his tendon’s didn’t responded to injections..dr.steadman ( renowned knee surgeon) was consulted ,who said it was one of a kind surgery he is performing and prognosis was gaurded..so hargo can’t blame anybody but his luck..As a patient pt of view i wish him luck..but as a united fan fuck off u bitter blue cun’t. Sue the bastard.. United till i die.
He’ll be injured again in a week or 2 the cunt. Then when shity fuck him off at the end of season he’ll be saying it’s all their fault instead of admitting that he’s nothing put a papadum kneed cunt.
Looking back when he decided to play for England over Canada he betrayed the country he was born and raised in for obvious selfish reasons,looks like it was just the start of things to come.
OMG
My Hayley has too much makeup on!
No no no my dearie you need to take it down a notch and then another notch!
Your so gorgeous without the makeup – why so much my dear?
@Doghouse – I agree my friend, as CUNTS go Mr Terry is by far the most CUNTIEST of CUNTS.
In fact we could have an all star CUNTING 11.
Players include:
Martin CUNTING Keown
Joey ULTIMATE CUNT Barton
Ashley THE CUNTIEST Cole
Kevin YOU CUNT Davies
Patrick PICK ON SOMEONE YOUR OWN CUNT Vieira
Alf-Inge STUPID CUNT Haaland
Please feel free to add your own, I need a Cunting Keeper, would it be harsh to propse Bosnich
Carlos EPIC CUNT Tevez
Cristiano BEAUTIFUL CUNT Ronaldo (He’s still my baby!)
@Goat hi mate hope your well,Canadians are not fake yanks mate,have way more class than Americans and have their own identity.
@Everyone.
If you think United have a crap medical team, Please sympathize with Arsenal
James, how could you leave out
Gabriel C-of-beans Heinze
@ YorYor
I liked Heinze, he was good but lost his place to Pat and rightly so. His beautiful Argentinian Herculean body stills plays on my mind………………………..back in a minute, just going for a wa……… a wash thats it a wash.
You forget
CUNT! Tim CUNT! FUCK! NIGGER! CUNT! Howard CUNT! BOMB! CUNT!
or doesnt that count
You still like a player who actually went so much as to SUE the club so he could join the DIPPERS?
You gotta be kidding me.
Owen Hargreaves, Thank you.
James.
How about Steve Mcmanaman on the subs bench.
Come on Goat, he was at least once our custodian.
There’s also Joe Cole who showed 5 to our supporters when he had nothing to do with it.
There’s also Mikel the Traitor but is probably our record transfer fee holder (zero wages, 14mil transfer NET gain, if you include Ronaldo’s wages, he probably let the club break even in monetary sense, that’s about all).
Then there’s David Ginola who dissed our King if I remember correctly.
And john Carew who claimed Norway didn’t need Solskjaer and that he was their answer.
Oh, and their manager? Kevin I’d-love-it-if-we-won-it-but-we-didn’t Keegan.
On a lighter note…… Whats your predictions for tomoz. Im going for a 3-1 to us.
@GoatinaUnitedShirt – That was hilarious! ahahahaahahha
@Red Neck – you mean Steve Mcmanacunt?
Frank ‘fat cunt’ Lampard springs to mind.
Look I think Hargreaves is a cunt (that is the word we’re using to describe him isn’t it) as soon as he made that move writing was on the wall. What Costas is saying (I think) and I’m with him on this one is that our medical team isn’t as great as the supporters make out, he’s not saying Hargreaves is right. This can be proven with key players being out injured. An example being Vidic where 2 weeks is now 7.
I’ll admit when it comes to injuries it is difficult to put a time frame on them, Mrs. Dr. MG verified this in an earlier post. However, as fans it is annoying to see that a player should be back within a certain time frame but never is.
I’ll also agree to Fergies mind games aspect in regards to players coming back from injury. Gives confidence to players coming in and keeps opposition managers on their toes. The consistent nature of key players being out longer than originally stated is extremely frustrating as a fan. We’ve spent a lot of money on crocks Saha instantly springs to mind along with Hargreaves.
How the fuck do these players pass medicals when they can barely finish a full season of football between them? We’ve spent a shit load of money on a transfer fee and wages which could have gone on players who may not be as good but at least can stay fit!
Safest way out of this when a player is injured is to say, not sure how long he will be out for. When Fergie said Vidic was out for 2 weeks, I added another 2 weeks on. Then it turned into 4 so in my mind that became 6. So on and so forth.
Injury crisis in defence season after season is too coincidental for my liking. This needs to be adressed, Fergie said in his press conference today that when chelski started well under the Maureen era the club addressed that and now we start better as a result. I think something needs to be looked at regarding our defenders.
For the record Hargreaves is a cunt, PIG isn’t.
Yes I definitely did. My appologies.
@Wayne
That’s a good point mate!
He’d of been the main man in the Canadian team, but he was just some cog in the gear for England….
james,joe hart,cech do they qualify as cunts?
speaking of cunts, how about feathered Boas first he says cashley cunt cole attacked chico because of the linesmen, and now he says that CHELSEA WERE THE BETTER SIDE at OT for 90 mins!! what a deluded fool!!
As I said, THATS Hargo, off the Christmas list.
Completely lacking class. What is it about putting on a Blue shirt in this country?! I just hope there is some reaction from Sir Alex/Club. I mean, you would think it was snake oils and herbal teas that were insisting on!
GAZ, that’s just a manager deflecting attention from the team, especially Torres after THAT miss.
I reckon it’s a toss-up between Keegan and Dalglish to be their manager. Can’t decide which one…
Milesplattingred, lighter note for us, but Stoke supporters are probably not quite looking forward to the game considering our recent plunders. The only ones looking forward to the game is the board, because their ground would be packed and cash registers ringing.
@MG She was crying all night mate, Over Hargo!
@RJ at the time thought he was a twat for doing that,i know Canada will never be a world power just because the sport isn’t big enough over here but i’ve lived here for over 30 years and have never become a Canadian citizen,i love the country but still consider myself English.
Don’t know how someone can ditch the country they were born and raised in,he showed his selfish mercenary tendencies way back when.
GAZ
Feathered Boas….. very good mate. And yep i agree, what fucking game eas he watching to say they were the better side. My fucking arse they were. He’s trying to keep Stalin sweet isn’t he know full well the chop is coming if and when he wins fucking nothing come May. Bunch of cunts.
Bruce,cunty legs,Grobbalar?
@GOAT You now I love your half crazy approach, one line that can not be crossed is Nigger!!!!
GoatinaUnitedShirt says:
You forget
CUNT! Tim CUNT! FUCK! NIGGER!
No Nigger talk please.
@James Jens CUNTING Lehmann for me.
What did Howard ever do?
Wow RoM I was the only person who commented on Nigger??????????????????
Who’s Owen Hargreaves??? Exactly. Fuck Off.
Wow I have never complained to STR about anyone GOAT the nigger thing needs to be addressed!!!
Very disappointing and disgusting I got to say. Even if there was some kind of issue with treatment, surely it was unintentional. The club spent tons of money on this cunt.
P.S. If I remember right after signing a new contract for Bayern he wanted to come to us, so no wonder he is disloyal cunt.
NRD – Regarding Vidic, you have to consider the players nature. He’s a warrior on the pitch. So, he’ll always pick up injuries. I’m comfortable with Fergie’s estimation on his return. We might even get back sooner. Until then, Jones will cover his position. I get frustrated too, with injuries. Especially, at the back. I put it down to bad luck, than anything else.
@willie
Lol, I remember talking about it with FletchTHEMAN about 10 days ago. At the time, Fergie said that Vidic would restart training in 2 weeks. I was very sceptical about whether Vidic would even make the Anfield game and Fletch wondered if I knew something he didn’t. Our medical team is quite predictable after a while.
@Notorious
Hargreaves has his own reasons for talking now and I certainly don’t buy his martyr act, but imo he did address an interesting issue. And it’s the only noteworthy thing from his interview. I don’t believe we always get to the route of injury problems and as a result, some players get injured over and over. I remember Jonny Evans having trouble shaking off his ankle problem in 08-09. And yeah, Rio has had long term back problems, but so did Nesta and he’s played a lot more than Rio has in the last couple of years. Speaking of Saha, I’ve noticed that his injury woes have toned down at Everton..
@NotoriousRedDevil & Costas & other ppl who think United medical team has its faults.
Of course, our medical team is not perfect. For that matter no club’s medical team is. Every club has their medical team misdiagnosis, wrong prognosis etc. However, United medical team is one of the ebst in the business. Medicine is not an exact science.
Also, I dont like it that the example of Vidic was being used. Vidic was given 2 weeks of recovery only by Fergie soon after the game based on a very preliminary analysis in the WBA dressing room!. The problem turned out to be more serious and it sbeing looked after.
Also, its not right just to point out the bad examples and tarnish our medical team as sub optimum.
Look at welbeck. He twanged his hamstring and was supposed to be out for another 2 weeks!!
Look at Valencia broke his leg, literally into 2 . Was back in 6 months.
I think our medical team is not perfect, but its definitely one of the best around. Also, you can rest be assured that they HAVE to be the best around for Fergie to keep them on the payroll.
Fergie, says “They are the best and only my opinion counts” 100% Correct.
WOW EVERYONE IS GIVING GOAT A PASS ON NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
Zibbie Spot on. Lots of words get put about in haste. Always thought Timmy Howard was a stand up guy and has pretty much kept to himself about his move away from the club. Been huge for Everton in doing LFC over recent years, who can complain about that? StealthUnited B team for me.
Zibbie
Thanks for the recognition and then up your arse for the stupid post. I never said Nigger, my imaginary Tim Howard said Nigger as to highlighten the fact that Tourettes is a disease, allbeit hillariously fucking funny, that causes individuals to say completely outrageous and unpredictable things. I defend the tourettes sufferers right to shout anything they wish as they are not in control themselves. Your quite right but self righteous stance has pleased your conscience but what you fail to recognise in your moment of one-up-man-ship is that you have downtrodden the rights of the disabled and mentally insane. To which sir you should be ashamed.
Slighty upset that the N word has been used here. I know it was prob used in a kinda jest way but surly we have more class than that.
GOAT self righteous? Fuck my ass, you gave it no context! Just called him a nigger and to try to turn it on me fuck you!
Does any club at the highest level of pro sports have the players interest at heart? probably not just have to look at NHL and NFL teams to know that but the player has a choice and can always say no to anything that he feels will be detrimental
So for Hargo to start slinging mud now is just wrong simple as that
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/hargreaves-lights-blue-touch-paper
best article i read about the whole topic,worth a look.
hope its not a double post
I would like to state that I have nothing but admiration for Howard and I believe we releassed him too soon if its any business of the trouble makers on here.
Its not what you say but HOW you say it and in what context. Nigger is a derogatory term but still a word of the english language and found in the dictionary. To write the word isnt racist but to outright call someone a Nigger because of the colour of their skin rather than their actions is abhorrent.
Zibbie get your self righteous head out your fucking arse and take the word in its context you fucking dyke.
I wish to him nothing but the death, and the worst of things upon him !
Sit Alex on his medical team………….
“As far as I am concerned my medical staff are one of the main reasons why we have been so successful over the last few years.
“Do you think we would be successful if they were not 100% brilliant? That is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it.”
GOAT watch yourself here mate, you are on thin fucking ICE!!!!!!!!!
GOAT you gave it no fucking context!
Now you make personal attacks on me MATE? Because you fucked up?
Zibbie
I didnt call Tim Howard a Nigger. You have done that. I wrote:
“You forget
CUNT! Tim CUNT! FUCK! NIGGER! CUNT! Howard CUNT! BOMB! CUNT!
or doesnt that count”
The words in capitals are those shouted by him a tourettes sufferer in jest at the making up of a CUNT football team where a goal keeper was asked for. As most goalkeepers are pretty swell guys apart from the pony tailed cunt Seaman the only reference to cunt I could come up with was the ramblings of a man with wayward speech.
Can I make up a suggestion of the manager of said Cunt football team. How about Zibbie.
Zibbie – With you on Goat’s post there. It is completely out of order. And Goat, with all due respect there are much better ways to serve the cause that you claim to be serving, than the post you put up. Contrary to your (also self-righteous) response to Zibbie, I don’t really see any way your post was serving ANY cause but to laugh at what you call a ‘hilariously fucking funny’ ailment, while at the same time excusing yourself for posting a term which is blatatenly rascist and legitimizes the use of such a term. If your intentions were indeed clean, an apology for an indequately contextualized and sensitive post would be in order.
@ AnomanderRake -Perhaps the Vidic example isn’t the best but it is the most recent, however I’m politely saying that Valencia is an exception to the rule. Prior to him they have been comebacks which have been aborted. A fair time scale to assess this is the last 4 years or so. If you can give me any more marvels I’d be inclined to agree with you.
Call me cynical, but if our injuries were spread out perhaps you wouldn’t notice but every season its in defence. I like Costas have mentioned the medical team before on this blog so by no means is this a knee jerk reaction to what cunt has stated about our club. I’m interested to see what statement the club releases. If there is a possibility we can sue him I think we should.
Never heard him say that, never saw a clip. You put it out there not me, you continue a personal attack on me ITS on mate. Your psycho rants in the past I have defended your crazy self. If you continue the personal attacks because you gave no context to NIGGER! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zibbie
james got the joke its a shame that you didnt. Dont call me a racist as I have nobbed a fair few darkies in my time. Hardly the actions of your local BNP candidate now is it.
@ wayne 15.52 – Good point instantly thought of Robben, chelski and blood washing. Robben wasn’t too happy about that which is one of the reasons he left.
Just out of interest what happens if you say the N word while you’re rapping along to 2Pac. Is that racist?
Btw, I think it is shameful that so few people have reacted to the use of the N word. I think the least we can agree on this forum is that some terms not be use. I hate the use of the word ‘cunt’ and some other language that passes around here, but the N word and other rascist terms are unacceptable and I suggest that there be a moral consensus on this, regardless of how benign the ‘intent’ behind the use of the word might be.
The moderator should be addressing the Goats posts Zibbie. It’s an ugly word. It shouldn’t be used on here by anyone, under any circumstances. I’m sure the goat didn’t mean it in that way. But it still shouldn’t be seen on here.
Hope he burns to death with his hair curlers!
Mahesh
My intentions were clean as I have tried to explain and the fact that it was indeed Zibbie that highlighted the fact with a cut and paste allbeit not the total post so as to put it out of context. As the word Nigger is in the dictionary do you class the book as a racist document. ? I put it in a neutral context without any lead up to the word. It was not directed at anyone or any particular thing so the use of the word was solely neutral. Only the use of the word in a derogatory context can be deemed racist. So an apology is not forth coming as I have done no wrong and who would the said apology be directed to in any case. Zibbie? I have no idea what colour he is, whether imaginary Tourettes sufferer Howard actually directed it at him. Thanks for your input.
NRD ask your black friends, I have had many discussions with my black friends how can they call themselves niggers and I can not, why do they think they can assault a person for that word? The courts agree that Nigger is a race attack? I did not get the context I’m glad James did.
@Notorious – I wouldn’t say rapper’s are really the standards we seek to live up to, no? I mean, if I were to accept rapper talk in my daily life I’d be I’d be rascist, a homophobe, a misogynist and generally a pathetic human being. Just think we can leave stuff like that out of a blog which should be about well-reasoned discussion and debate about the club we all love.
Maybe United should have a panel of specialists to review those injury cases to find out whether the medical team is doing everything correctly. Perhaps it will ensure a better solution as to address the current situation. Weird as it seems but why no one mentioned about the issue until Hargo brought it up.
Especially a dead rapper.
Or is he? 
NotoriousRedDevil
thank you. I dont want you to be seen as aligning on my side as its not worth your trouble mate from the back biting lesbians and do gooders on here. Your right and what about “Woman is the Nigger of the World” by John Lennon.
This over reaction to the word has led to the unneccesary prolonging of racism because the overly sensitive block all efforts to discuss a subject and teach people their wrong doings by not giving them a vocabulary in which to discuss such matter. Shame on you racist Zibbie
GOAT you were wrong, this is a footy blog, I have said my peace you have withdrawn personal attacks.
@NotoriousRedDevil
IT could aslo be that we have a few injury prone players in defence. Ferdinand, the twins etc.
Frankly, all we can do is speculate at how good our medical team is. Since we dont have a big enough sample set to draw up concvincing conclusions, nor are we as fans in any way directly exposed to teh medical team.
What gives me confidence, is that they have Fergie’s vote of confidence.
Injuries are nto just teh purview of the medical team. Fitness and strength plays a huge role too. Also game and training intensity. I see that our training sessions are really intense to guarantee consistent performances from a huge squad that dont play week in week out. This could also be a cause for a higher injury rate.
For comparison, take a look at some of the other top teams.
Chelsea, have their problems with Essien and even with Lampard now.
Barca have problems with Puyol, Xavi last season, Iniesta etc.
Madird have huge problems with Kaka , they didnt handle Robben well at all too..
FucK off GOAT!!! Your so fucking far off base.
@Wayne
No they’ll never be a world power, but as you said, at least he’d of kept some honour if he played for his true country…..
It’s like people in Ghana wanting Welbeck to play for them when he was born and raised in England…..
Costas, Must be the bran mixed the snake oil! ComeOn Vida.
Goat – I think it bears to keep in mind how the dictionary defines the term as well. I have no reason to doubt your intentions, but I do believe that by using the term we legitimize its use. And for that reason alone, I think we can agree not to use the term. I just think it was unnecessary to the point you were trying to make, so why use it then?
Racist Zibbie!!!!!!! Fuck OFF!!!
Have your meds changed?
Owen. Are you tryin to please someone at wastelands by any chance ?????????
If that is the case you are a complete disappointment to all that respected you, and that includes me!!
@Mahesh Goat is back tracking trying to justify the indefensible, then saying I am what he is. Like a 8 year old,s argument.
United Statement on Hargreaves.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/manchester-united-statement-on-owen-hargreaves.aspx
Manchester United is disappointed with Owen Hargreaves’ remarks after the game on Wednesday. The Club gave him the best possible care for three years and is as disappointed as anyone he was not able to play a part in the team’s success at that time. It has shared all the medical records with Manchester City and is comfortable with the actions taken by its medical staff at each step of his many attempts at rehabilitation.
United does not acknowledge any validity in the comments Owen is alleged to have made.
Manchester United has some of the best sports medical staff in world sport, who have made a significant contribution to United’s on-pitch success in recent seasons.
Don’t take the moral high ground Zibbie. You accused Rai, Kings and me of being wife beaters not long ago. Not such a great comment was it considering two of them are heavily pregnant. I do however agree there is no place for the N word on here.
MilesPlatting – Comedy gold that deck chair tale mate. Superb.
Zibbie we can agree to disagree and not discuss anything with each other or each others posts.
The club have now commented:
DTguardian daniel taylor
#MUFC statement is in: ‘United does not acknowledge any validity in the comments Owen is alleged to have made.’ #MCFC
8 minutes ago
DTguardian daniel taylor
#MUFC ‘disappointed with Owen’s remarks . . . the club gave him the best possible care for three years.’ #MCFC
6 minutes ago
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/manchester-united-statement-on-owen-hargreaves.aspx
club statementhttp://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/manchester-united-statement-on-owen-hargreaves.aspx
club statement
Excellent statement by United, I think. They could have gone a little further and point to disappoitment at his ingratitude, but beyond that I think this was a really classy statement.
Oh Owen Hargreaves, you was the love of my life,
Oh owen hargreaves, I’d have let you shag my wife,
But Owen Hargreaves, is a curly haired cunt!
KE thanks, I know I was wrong for that, a bad parable. Tried and missed by a mile trying to make a point.
I never knew they were pregnant, I’m sorry for that!
I am done with it.. NEXT!
Zibbie – No worries mate. Its done and dusted now!!
Thanks KE. I hope and will say a prayer for a healthy birth for them.
Zibbie – for whats it worth, I don’t believe Goat is a racist in any way. Lets bury this argument where it belongs. In the gutter.
Here is the club link to the statement on Hargreaves allegation.
#MUFCDisOwenOwen
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/manchester-united-statement-on-owen-hargreaves.aspx
57 minutes does not a season make. He will pull a hammy in training in 2 weeks.
This is what I wrote many a month back when he signed for City that not only was it a fairly ungrateful thing to do by joining our arch rivals but that it would open the flood gates for back stabbing. It did with kettle neck, it did with Heinze, it did with Stam ……..
It just hurts so much more that with the others they were bitter for not getting the chance to better themselves even further but for Hargreaves its the case he knows hes a crock, he didnt even manage 90 minutes against Birmingham and I doubt he will ever again. His short comings in regards to health are down to him and bad luck not Manchester United. A true bitter cunt.
Ha, should have refreshed. Cheer Amander & SirAlexSon
Willie, Jello! And done and dusted.
“SAF doesn’t have to answer to this.” That was my initial reaction.
I wonder what city colors does to players to turn them into total cunts. I used to fucking love this guy.
Fletch is refreshed.
Never a dull moment with Goat insulted all Canadians by calling Hargo a fake yank and the N word to insult god knows how many people.
For what it’s worth i associate the N word with brainwashed, ignorant ,stupid, biased people and don’t think Goat is for one minute any of that.We all know Goat likes to push buttons and has a warped sense of humor so didn’t take it in the Micheal Richards hatred way but can understand how people would be offended
I’d lie if I said that the club’s response shocked me, lol. Although I was a bit disappointed that nor Fergie nor the club commented on the accusation that he was forced to play against Wolves while he was injured.
GOAT last thing on the N subject, I do not think your a racist, on one missed funny by me on your part.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/manchester-united-statement-on-owen-hargreaves.aspx?newsid=51F3015B-7184-4B12-A667-03317C640346&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I remember Fergie saying, we took a gamble on him for the Wolves game. Outside of that, I don’t know whats went on. Two sides, to this story. I believe Hargreaves has been badly advised about the timing of this article. The club wished well, so his actions disappoint me.
why all ex-united had to be a cunt when joining shity? is it because they inject shit in his drink?
Costas, I played organised sport. When I new I was injured not just hurt. It was up to me to put the breaks on the coaches and say I can not go today.
Interesting Mankini has when asked if United messed up with Hargreaves, said “No Not at all”
Hmmm… Atleast scarfFace has responded with dignity.
I think the clubs response was measured and the best response in the circumstances. We would all be holding our heads in our hands if in a winning possition in the league Sir Alex would have done a Kevin Keegan by saying more than can benefit a situation. We all know Sir Alex and the staff did their best and thats all we and Hargreaves can ask of them. This will come round and bite Hargreaves arse count on that.
@kaihnsn, liquid acid? A few drops of Visine the eye wash stuff, and he will have explosive diarrhea for 48 hours.
@ Zibbie – They are cool with it but then my parents are Indian. I don’t go saying the word, but if I’m rapping along in the car or in the shower I’ll be damned if someone calls me racist. Goat has a peculiar sense of humour which is why I and many others weren’t offended because we know he wasn’t being racist.
@ Mahesh – Got the wrong end of the stick, rapping along to lyrics is not everyday talking it doesn’t make you the labels you suggested. Its avery dim view to suggest all rappers like that. Listen to 2Pac’s album Me Against The World. If you can see through the profanity you can learn a lot.
@ WilleRedNut – He’s dead mate, I honestly believed he was coming back in 2003 he didn’t so he’s dead. However I will go Jamaica to see if he is in fact sipping daiquiri like he said!!!
Good on the club making that statement. Hargreaves you’ve put yourself up there with the argie troll and heinze.
@Costas – I think while we would all love a response, I don’t think the club want to open this can of worms at this stage in the season,especially with our momentum as it is. I don’t think its worth the attention at this point. Just because Hargreaves’ timing was atrocious doesn’t mean we follow suite…At some point however I would want to know if Hargreaves ever raised such concerns while at the club, especially prior to making the alleged offer to play for free for the club. This entire story is fishy beyond belief, and I not completely sure why Hargreaves has chose to make this long comment on the United system at this point and not earlier, or later. I am waiting to see how this guy gets through the season. If he comes through relatively fit, then I think it would be time to revisit this question of United medical staff and the managment of injured players. If Hargreaves falls apart again, then the question is really a moot one…
Though I personally tend to avoid contentious words, language is all about how one likes to interpret it.
A staunch Christian would take offence at someone saying “holy shit” but to others, it’s just an exclamatory phrase.
I don’t condone anyone using any term with an intent to cause hurt, but I’m sure Goat really didn’t scope it like that.
I’m more prepared to jump on anyone calling SAF a liar or insinuating he was playing along the lines of “no value in the market” because he was saving his own job.
NRD – Ha ha. Just playing devils advocate there lol. Me against the world is seriously under rated album. I do love the Makaveli album, though. He blasts everyone!
Hail Mary is a classic tune. The lyrics in that song, are awesome.
Hargos full medial record disclosed by Dan Taylor
http://www.governmentauctions.org/uploaded_images/filecabs-784481.JPG
@Notorious – Not my intention to label anyone, and will agree some rap does have truly meaningful things to say. My general point is, because a rapper uses certain words, or anyone else does, doesn’t make it a legitimate term to use in our daily functioning, such as debating issues football related. No issues with singing along to 2Pac etc, but if the use of the term does become a legitimate one as a result, then yeah I do think it is a problem.
NRD all good in the Hood, saying the word in of itself carries no offence, I missed his reference in the Howard terhets thing. People now me here. I’m a go with the flow guy. Leaving judgment for the Judges and Jesus. And all religious deities. The last physical encounter I had, I was with a black friend and he was called a N’er and it was on, 5 vs 2 a movie fight scene.
@ WillieRedNut- With the bell going every 7 seconds. Me Against The World is his best album IMO. Got pissed up in Zante when I was 20 and had Me Against The World tattoed on my back in very large letters. My first tattoe but hopefully not my last!!!
Actually got that link from Jay in Essex who is a bit of a red nut as well.
Hargos full medial record delivered to Wastelands.
http://www.governmentauctions.org/uploaded_images/filecabs-784481.JPG
Ha hahah
LOL @ FletchTheMan
In Boondock Saints the old bartender with terhets! LOL!!!
Great link Fletch!
So its settled nobody here is racist. Onto football. Stoke fans are cunts and I for one hope we put at least 4 past them. If they play like they did against Kiev and we play like we have been they don’t stand a chance.
NRD – That must of stung? Lol. Old School is a favorite of mine. Death around the corner. So many class tunes.
@Mahesh
Yeah I feel the same. Time will definitely clear this all out. Hargreaves’ comments could come back to haunt him if he’s unable to prove his fitness. Don’t know why he made the comments now, but this is probably how he really feels. The “I wanted to stay for free” comments a few weeks ago were probably a facade because he knew the City moce was imminent.
@Zibbie
Maybe, but when the manager is aware of an injury, it’s his call. In Hargo’s case, he says he had 2 injuries before that game and couldn’t even jog. I really have a hard time believing Graeme Souness (let alone Ferguson) let a player start a game in that condition.
I love Jamaica, their music scene is awesome. I have been to the Island 7 or 8 times. It is my Mecca, in a way! I love the women the street food, from the Mountains and climbing Duns River falls. AH yes man. ARRIII!
Just got the news he turned from crock to cunt.
I was ok with the fact he joined Shitty for the money,opportunity to play CL & play some easy fringe games. I was happy that the cunt put injuries behind him to score for Shitty because no one deserves an injury that can rule out their career in a sport that they love. I have been on the end of injuries and its horrible and you don’t want to wish it even on Cunts like Terry & Cole because they are decent cunting footballers.
One thing I learnt during injury is that you don’t blame others and yourself for the injury because it just happens, its life sporting wise ( everyone gets ill so everyone get injured ). Also that you learn about recovery times and your own limitations when used to being a crock. Hargreaves was lucky to recieve 3 years of care & support yet threw it back in the medicals team’s face.
The injury was probably new to the medical team but in the past they supported the likes of Solskjaer,Valencia,Beckham,Rooney, Scholes, Fletcher come back from Injury/Illness & Im sure this Cunt was given the best medical treatment available in modern times.
Can’t believe that Ungrateful Cunt, picked up Millions being injured, couldn’t take care of himself, tried his own treatment when it suited him, hid injuries from Bayern, Lied to United Medical staff when he signed and I get the feeling if he went to a specialist when he first felt he had rotten Knees he could have saved his career.
Can’t believe I had sympathy for this ungrateful, sick pay abusing Bastard.
I hope he plays against United, Hopefully he gets raped by Ando like Nani did to A.Hole.
I wished him good luck with his career, now I hope he rots in the Shitty bench like a rusty bike.
Thank you Scott!
I’ve been waiting for this post all day.
Always can trust You to stand up for the club!
Also, wow!
Owen Hargreaves turns out to be a total cunt, You can’t make these things up.
It is going to be 4:20 somewhere soon.
@ WillieRedNut – It weren’t so bad actually. I actually enjoyed it although the I in Against on my spine tickled a bit. If Ink wasn’t so expensive in England would have had another one done. It was done by a Greek who didn’t think I’d see it through but said I had big balls to get a tattoe thats size done as my first. Thats albums great cos its aggressive and then you have tracks like Dear Mama and Can U Get Away. Goes to show you can be as hard as you like but even blokes have a soft side….Except for me….HONEST!!!!
Where are the guys who camped outside Wazza’s house during his “ambition” fiasco? We need those guys again to do a little autumn camping outside Casa Cunt.
@ Saad Whats the point? By the time he opens the front door he’ll have probably pulled his hamstring.
NRD
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!
Thanks mate. You made my day!
In all seriousness, I have no respect for people who don’t think twice before bitching about the hand that fed them.
Ungratefulness is the worst form of apathy.
GoatinaUnitedShirt – You were wrong to use the N word. I took it as a joke and was not offended, yet I immediately expected sadness anger and frustration to result from your careless remark. Just because you were joking, doesn’t mean you weren’t hurtful and unnecessarily vague. Perhaps you can be more clear when joking about very sensitive issues.
Zibbie – You were right to be angry, brave and selfless to address it, and a bit too emotional in your approach. Fair enough, I would have been too.
Mahesh – Your measured approach and sensitive views are a credit to us all.
NRD – Singing a song in your car is not the same as shouting out the N word on RoM, especially in an unexpected manner, surrounded by swear words. It surprises me that you are offended and consider it racist to want Barton at United because your friend was allegedly called a p**i, but are not offended by the N word. Perhaps P**i is more offensive to you than N****r. Be assured, the N word, the K word, the P word and all other racist taunts are offensive in all contexts, to a varying degree, and are best avoided, or at least used with care.
All – The phrase “I have black friends” is racist. It is often very offensive too, sometimes not.
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I agree that the N word should not be used on RoM.
If it forms part of a citation it should be clearly indicated.
Peace.
Rap music is fucking shit these days. Cannot beat Wu Tang and their solo stuff like Ghostface , The GZA-Liquid Swords, Raekwon – Only built 4 cuban lynx etc. Mobb Deep, Biggie, Onyx, Tribe Called Quest, NWA and so on. I aint exclusively into rap by the way, more rock music and shit. Stones, Beatles, Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Roses, Primal scream, The Smiths. Very varied musical taste. As if anyone gives a fuck!
United’s statement on the Hargreaves allegations is sensible.
Were we to sue him for his remarks, we would have to prove they are untrue. Very difficult.
Stating the opposite to what he has said shows that we recognise his lies. It is now his move.
If he says nothing, he looks a fool. If he addresses our statement, he needs facts.
I am sure that all the issues he raised will be carefully considered behind closed doors.
I am glad that the club did not respond openly by discussing issues raised about our club
by an arbitrary footballer at city. We would look like idiots if we enter into a discussion on
any matter brought up by those who hate us.
@Smartalex thanks for your perspective.
Vanilla Ice?
Ice Ice baby…..
Nasty Nas! illmatic is a classic album.
@ smartalex – I find the p word offensive because my parents are Indian and so were my mates. I mean you wouldn’t call a Brit French? The N word shouldn’t be used in everyday convo but back in the day My black friends would say to me My N. However I wouldn’t reciprocate. Thats a peculiar word because its turned into a positive defence for people of that race as a term of endearment to each other but still offensive if someone outside that fraternity uses it. The fact its exploited in a marketing sense is proof of that. Its the reason Ice Cube, Dr. Dre and others have made millions. Credit to them after what their ancestors were put through. I think people outside that race don’t get it, well I don’t want to ruffle any feathers but if the cunts from centuries ago hadn’t come up with words like that we wouldn’t have to debate it and have rifts.
My question was in this politically correct, soft society we live in today where a racist term is marketed is it offensive to sing along. By the views of people I respect on here thats an unequivocal NO. Therefore if Still DRE randomly comes up on my music player whilst I’m in the shower in my house, I’m rapping along.
@ NotoriousRedDevil – It is good that a group of people are able to adopt and re-define a word that is used against them. It never becomes okay for others to use it. I have african blood, you have indian blood. I wouldn’t call you with the P word, that’s for sure!
Singing in the shower is cool! Watching a classic movie and thinking the words is cool.
In South Africa there are terms used that differentiate people by their race, and they seem generally acceptable and are comfortably used by most, even those from a different race. Terms like “charro”, “bruino” and “wit o” are commonly used, among others. Still, it depends where you are, what you are saying, and to who. I find it easier to avoid the terms, but it is impossible to avoid them completely, as they are widely used. This in a country where racism is abhorred, and a very dangerous accusation to make.
Touchy subject, I’m sure we all agree!
NRD my typing skills are not good enough for me to intelligently discus such a subject and do it justice. I pass on most remarks, Greasy Italian, WOP, Mick, spic, towel head. In the real world I have made my living reading people. They say in a conversation 11 to 17% are the words we use. The rest is pace, tone, facial cues and body language. People who have mastered the written word and proper punctuation like yourself and MG, Stateside and Smartalex. I can not due a subject like Racism Justice, a weakness I have been working on. I for one have enjoyed the twisted demented rants of a rampaging Goat, more then most. In a written forum I have seen many arguments here about race. I saw a word used that here in the States have been given the hate crime designation. Even if I do not understand that? Does not mean I can not respect it. My N’er has been said to me as well, but I could not use it back.
TMI here, I was going at it with a women and she screamed FUCK ME N’er!!!! I took me by surprise!
Willie and I have a ongoing thing about my guns and I have said for some things I will shoot at people and go down fighting, racial or ethnic genocide or cleansing is one. In Dubuque Iowa there are many people who have only lived with white German Irish people and we were statistically the whitest city in the US over 50,000 people in just the last 20 years African Americans have moved here and IBM came to town 2 years ago so the Indian race have come to town for the first time. 2 Indian food restaurants how cool, I eat at one of them 3-4 times a month. A lot of ignorance in some racist names.
After paying his wages and giving him the best medical support possible , he gives this cunty interview. I hope michael owen does a keane-haaland on him. Thats our way of saying ‘We have enough owens!!!!”. Citeh cunt.
Zibbie – Do you know Smith and Wesson?
fuck me why would someone use the n word load of bollocks not acceptable
fuck owens balsa wood kness
anyone see vida could be out longer then expected
know the young uns are doing splendid but would be fantastic to have el capitan back in the frame
… and ole Gunnar solskjaer?
I think you are a Liverpool fan mate. If Dalglish was in charge lol. Stop sniffing the lighter fuel. It mucks up your brain cells.
The comment at 19.16 is proof that Owen Hargreaves visits this blog. If you’re reading this Owen, you’re an ungrateful cunt who deserves nothing but misery.
@ Zibbie – we done mate and @ Mahesh well backed – I just read through this thread and I CANNOT BELIEVE how may people gave @ Goat a pass on using the N word and how pathetic the people are trying to “understand” contextualise” and justify it – I am sure Goat loves to be called white trash and Nazi.
Also interesting to note the people who usually attack other people for opinions – or abuse of players – i.e. I am sure all black United player would have loves that comment – who gave the guy a pass. Pathetic.
Scott – you really need to moderate this site…!!!!!
Again – well done Zibbie – class act.
Perhaps when Scott is doing the moderating that NBI Red Onion is asking for he can stop NBI Red Onion from posting under multiple user names and moderate the comments where NBI Red Onion attacks peoples mothers, falsely accusing them of lewd sexual acts.
NBI Red Onion falsely accused my mother of lewd sexual acts and has not withdrawn his accusation or apologised.
NBI Red Onion regularly posts under multiple user names to drum up support for his comments and attack people.
NBI Red Onion should apologise unreservedly and retract his vicious lies.
@ smartalex – I know some people kiss your ass. But you are a twat. You are always attacking people and provoking them (e.g. recently me, NRD, Oritz etc etc) and throwing a hissy fit when they don’t take it. Lots of people – as they have conveyed to you are sick of the shit you write. You are lucky there is no moderator as your ass would have been slapped.
So just stick to the nice points you were making there’s a good boy. And don’t fuck with me.
Also – people who shriek the most are usually doing things – everyone knows you have multiple identities and that you talk shit and lie and select info excluding your shit and out of context. You are the biggest fuck wit on this site.
Me too Red Onion. He wasn’t very nice to me the other day. He said I’ve got feet. Well, that’s not the case.
Come on do your psycho robot paste attack now Smartalex, I am in the office with my traders and we need a laugh.
@ WillieRedNut – feet are an amazing thing man…! A keeper. Yeah the guy does not realise the people who are his flattering blog friends are actually encouraging him to make a fool of himself for their entertainment – they encourage him to act in ways they never do themselves – i.e. they like seeing him play the fool and they just laugh and prod a bit from the back. Not true friends if you ask me. But don’t tell him, that shits over his head.
That should of been big feet.
@ WillieRedNut – even if you were big foot himself that’s okay with me mate as long as you tare happy to talk footie …:) he is a nasty. I mainly skip past his posts, but occasionally I see him trying desperately to get my attention or trying to intimidate other people so I just stop to laugh at him now and then. But he is totally not worth any reflection. It’s like arguing with a kid.
Now you’ve put your foot in it. That’s no mean feat.
We knew what you were peanut head. Your stench was easy to notice. Your last sentence tells us everything. Not much between the ears. Go to rawk plank.
He’s trying to get hits on his blog by attacking us. Moron.
i hope we shit on his life when we play city….cunt
Sooooo this guy last played for United when? And you all care about this why? This kind of crap is typical of the English attitude towards sports and what they think is important, and is in direct correlation to why England never wins anything, ever. Who gives a shit about vilifying a player who last contributed to us three years ago? boo fuck hoo. This shouldn’t even be a story.
Nh1x
If someone is attacking your family do you ignore them? If they are broadly publishing lies in every newspaper and on every TV channel about your sister, brother and mother do you ignore it?
Hargreaves has today been slandering United, it’s all over the news, and people all over the world are talking about it. Even you. It even brought you out of the shadows and got you to comment. You clearly give a shit.
Lying piece of shit. Just because he played a few mins and scored a goal against Birmingham, he suddenly became the BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
Can’t wait for Evans to take him out for a few years and Shitty to pay his wages to do fuck.
Offer to play for FREE for a club that fucked-up his medical treatment? It’s like carrying on seeking treatment from a doctor who wrongfully cut his balls and prick off. Hargo is totally a Mental Case now.
Scott the Red, do what needs to be done.
“The doctor, five physios and sports scientists are fantastic. That’s my opinion of Manchester United and it’s more important than what anyone else has to say about it.”
fucken ay fergie. if your happy with the medics then im happy with em.
I don’t know how often STR moderates the blog, but the comment at 1:38 needs to be removed yesterday.
Never liked him and I was so right to do so, mother fucking twat, oh yeah, where are those shirts “I want a curly hair”, loads of shit!
How was hillsborough you fucking filthy vermin cunt. 96 was never enough. Murdering cunts.
Scott sorry I had to resort to that but I cannot actually believe that cunt’s post hasnt been deleted.
Infact what makes it worse is that you are actually a bitter who lost their own Frank Swift. Hope you die mate.
pillock
You are one sick fucking cunt. Fuck off you childish prick. Scott why the fuck are you allowing these posts mate?
NH1X – If you don’t like the “English attitude” then don’t support an English team then pal.
Smart Alex
My sister is not United. Forgive me if I love my sister more than a football team. My comments did not imply that I give a shit, just expressed my views on this kind of story that addresses the past or a player who does not wear the United shirt any more has very little to do with United winning now. All best.
Nh1x
As a 25 year old American who prefers basketball and only recently started watching United, your opinions are worthless. You are not one of ‘us’ and you have no right to disrespect the English. Fuck off back to basketball, if they’ll have you. Moron.
SORT IT OUT SCOTT ! ! !
It’s amazing how his comments get through and others get moderated.
Best player United had? Quality. Thats why we fucked him off. Just like Judas Tevez. You are a fucking vile cunt mate. Now wishing death on Sir Bobby.
Scott get off twatter and get this shit sorted please pal. Its a fucking pisstake.
Blimey, just seen these horrible posts, shocking really that they are still on here…
Sort it out Scott…….. A few weeks ago you deleted a City fan’s comments because he had a go at you, this is not even comparable
The term wum was invented for this guy.
Scott the Red
You will lose all of us.
Sort it out.
Scott the Red
If you can’t be here, grant a couple of us comment-deleting authority.
Please mate. Sort it out.
Well done Scott…..
Well done Scott the Red!
Thank you Sir!
Funny how Scott seems to be allowing this filth – too busy on his fucking shit twatter site, having dialogue with narcissist cunts instead of protecting his blog from vile and disgusting comments from fucked up individuals. I have made a comment about the lack of action taken for filth posted before, only to see shit loads of arse lickers jumping to his defence. Today’s comments from that fucking bastard is vile and near the mark and they have not been deleted. I recall King Eric correctly stating that a poster by the name of Tufty was banned from this site for absolutely no reason.
ResurrectionRooney – You are a fucking cunt. Do yourself and the rest of us a favour and run a sharp blade across your throat and let yourself die slowly and painfully.
The comments have been deleted Kings … Scott heard our call.
smartalex – Nice one mate. Must have done it while I was in the process of posting my last comment.
Thanks Scott.
Kings – You were the straw that broke Resurrection’s back! The final nail, as it were!
Massive apologies for having a life away from the blog. I don’t know what I was thinking not sitting at my laptop reading through comments on here on a Friday night. It will never happen again.
Fair enough Scott.
We certainly can’t expect you to be here 24/7.
Please consider authorising a couple of regulars like CedarsDevil and King Eric to delete comments that are completely unacceptable.
Thanks again for attending to our requests of deletion of those horrific comments.
It is appreciated.
Scott- Cheers pal, but it was Friday night right through till this lunchtime. Just saying like. Cheers .
Scott – Fair enough, but as it’s your blog, it is your duty to keep an eye on it and maintain it’s dignity, especially in light of the filth that was posted on here right up until lunchtime as King Eric correctly pointed out.
Fuck self regulating! Just give us the cunts address Scott? Bash the cunts head in. Only joking.
smartalex – Thanks my friend, but swatting that cunt away was a joint effort from the trusted regulars including your good self.
WillieRedNut and Kings
We have a RoM army that covers the globe! Once we know who he is, he could never hide!
I got the upper Midwest covered in the US, I need 12 hour notice to open my safe and get my guns.
My Dad killed Nazi’s in the war and some Fascist Italians as well, there hearts were not in it like the Germans, he said they gave up in mass then hung Mussolini.
Almost forgot the Japaneses, as well. He was in both theaters of WWII.
We don’t need StR to chase these cunts off the blog. We can do it ourselves. A United front, will prove too much for any bastard mouthing off on here.
idiot!