Darron Gibson has let his international boss, Giovanni Trapattoni, know that he has no intention of leaving Manchester United.
Gibson was on the bench throughout Ireland’s 1-0 win over Armenia and his manager implied this would the way it would stay until he started getting regular first team football, to give him more “hunger”.
“If Trapattoni wants me to move on from a club like Manchester United to better my game, move to somewhere like Stoke where I’ll get more games, but have little chance of winning anything, then I just don’t know,” Gibson said. “Where else would I go from Manchester United? At what club, other than Manchester United, could I go to improve my game? To be honest, if he’s trying to say that I should move somewhere like Stoke City and change my game to winning tackles and not winning games, then he’s having a laugh. To move on from Manchester United just doesn’t make sense to me.”
I also imagine Gibson wouldn’t be scoring goals in the European Cup quarter finals against the likes of Bayern Munich if he left United for somewhere like Stoke either!
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Good to see you have some sense, Darron.
Prove to Sir Alex that you deserve some playing time this year. Your chance will come, you just have to take it.
hes jst a normal player with a good shot and a useless sense of football
I heard the irish manager talking about this last week and i was embarrassed – imagine an international manager thinking a player should leave a team like united were he’s been taught the best way from the best in the game and go to a lesser team,
thats what you get when you get a manager on the cheap
anywho even thou torres has been wrapped in cotton woll till he’s fit for the united game
liverpool do have a player out in the funniest way
Dirk Kuyt will be out for four weeks after injuring himself attempting a bicycle kick in Holland training.
Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-s-Dirk-Kuyt-out-of-Manchester-United-clash-after-injuring-himself-with-botched-bicycle-kick-in-training-article573617.html#ixzz0yquV4Nj2
This sounds like a comment straight from the Darren Fletcher school of thought, I hope Darron emulates Darren.
at the moment, he is a class michael carrick,
n he is prob only 1 in r team that is not scared 2 shoot
I would at least always pick him ahead of Carrick – we’ll definitely see more of him this season…would sometimes like him to pass the ball rather than take a bad shot – often seen Rooney having a go at him for not passing to him instead
if he’s not good enough fine but if he is then what difference does it make if he’s getting playing time or not just seems like a stupid statement that makes no sense
Ireland may well come to regret not putting Gibbo on from the start more often. I’m not Irish, but I just don’t understand the team selection. Darron may still be learning the game, but he’s proved he’s got the bottle – and the firepower- to play at the highest level. It’s not just that his shooting has real power, it’s the mastery of technique in volleying which makes him such a threat. I wish Fergie would give him more opportunities, that’s for sure, but Trappatoni should be doing more to develope his asset, the way Scotland did with Fletcher – at a time when even United fans were sneering at him, to their eternal shame.
sorry, but I do not rate the lad as a United quality. good shot – yes, but nothing else. he can prove me wrong like Fletch did, but currently it would be better for him to go on loan somewhere where he can really play regulary. why not?
dont think it would be a bad thing at all for us. good shot, but cant see anything else
Doesn’t Trapattoni always start with O’Shea regardless of how often he plays for United? Why should it be any different for Darron.
Potters must be gutted. Ha ha ha …….
I think the trap knows what he’s doing lads, Gibbo will get his chance eventually.
“He is a class Michael Carrick”
The trouble is Micheal Carrick isn’t Michael Carrick class at the moment.
Both Carrick and Gibson need to up their game, not to mention Anderson. We can’t rely on Fletch and Scholes to do it all.
As I have said previously i do not subscribe to this “good shot, but shit” theory. The lad scores fucking goals and aside from Paul has the best shot at United out of the midfield. What do people want? He can pass and I have seen him many times drop back and cover the fullbacks. He is only 22 lets not forget. I do like Gibbo and at least the lad has the right attitude. But hey lets fuck him off and get Jonny Foreigner in who probably doesn’t give a fuck. Give him time .
I think the Serie A will really suit his game. Milan might make an offer as backup for Seedorf!
Fuck off Trapattoni.
Too cumbersome to play at the highest level, lacks mobility and guile, decent passer but not that great, has a powerful shot but does he have a good accuracy? Not really, he’ll struggle to make it at united if he doesn’t improve his all round game immensely, jury still out on him.
Gibson is a man among men
Usually they start having dreams when they go away from United
Que a certain Portugese once upon a time : )
just to point out that anderson was in the form and attiude of his life before he got injuried- there was a bit of “now if nani could just get it ” talk at that point – I think people have forgot about that
Ah the evil Darren Gibson debate. The hypocrisy from some United fans is astounding. We whine about not enough goals from midfield and then we get a guy who can ping it in from ridiculous distances and he gets slated for it. Have these miscreants not learnt anything from the Fletcher scenario? Gibson spent a year on the sidelines and has bounced back. If he was so crap how come he started one of the most important games last season vs Bayern? I can’t wait to shove his success down peoples throats. P.S Nice one Gibbo having a pop at Stoke BNP City. You will go on to prove you’re better than that. International Managers are always telling their players to move from big clubs to get football. Then when they do they stagnate. Andy Cole instantly springs to mind.
In my opinion, asking for players to get more football is a cop out by national team managers. Capello did the same with Owen last season,even though he was planning on taken Hargreaves to South Africa if he showed signs of 100% fitness. Gibson isn’t playing a lot, but how is this different compared to last season?
I am glad Rehhagel never made up his squad based on who played the most for his side. We would have never won the Euro in 2004.
Costas – So what are you saying? That Gibbo has to watch in case he falls through the trap door?
Hes on the fucking bench again tonight!!!! What the fuck is going on. Hes playing green and whelan ahead of him. Seriously. Fuck off Trap!!!! He says he needs to play more regularly yet Given and Keane still play. Hes full of shite. Gibson is our best midfield player bar (and I hate to say it) Stephen Ireland but hes a cunt so I have no idea why Gibson doesnt play!
Still got a lot of faith in Gibson. Can’t decide if he has a bad or an incredible attitude though – most of our team probably wouldn’t dream of criticising another club like that, but most of them wouldn’t be so blunt as to completely reject the idea of leaving United if they weren’t getting many games.
Tbh I don’t like this attitude. So if Fergie informs him he’s going on loan to a premier league club to get more games and experience, he will refuse? Obviously you won’t be winning games or trophies at the likes of Stoke Mr Gibson, you’ll be sent there to play regularly, better your all round and come back to Utd as a better player. And probably win more international caps too. I think a loan move would be good for him but we’d be pretty thin in the midfield departement if he goes and Fergie likes him. I do understand why he has come out and said this though, and I like Gibson. In Carrick’s absence he has done well and scored a few crackers, he’s the only player who I believe is capable of getting us 5-10 goals from midfield. As well as a goalscorer he takes good corners, and he took a cracking freekick in preseason. I hope he can solve our setpiece problems this season.
Fze123- No I think he was talking about him ASKING Sir Alex to be loaned out.
I love that he seems to hate Stoke. They’re a bunch of wankers and I’d love them to go down this year. If Fergie is willing to pick Gibbo in a Champions league quarter final then he’s probably alright for a spot in the Ireland team. It’s not like Ireland have the selection of talent in midfield that United do.
People seem to miss one very strong point about gibson and that is the fact that if fergie didnt like him or wasnt one-hundred percent sure he could become a top midfielder for us then he would of got rid years ago, i.e. richardson, campbell, eagles,etc. Thats the way i see it. Fergie wouldnt waste his time or stall the development of others if he didnt have faith in darron.
GIBBO listen to him cos you aint gonna make it at OT
@ King Eric
Spot on, mate
@Fze123 – Doesn’t sound to me like he’s talking about loan deals, he’s talking about moving on from United for good. At least that’s how i took it.
I have a feeling Trapattoni’s decision is based on attitude rather than application.
I’ve watched Gibson carefully, both for club and country, and I’ve got the same problem with Gibson as Trap. I’m not denying the boy has a degree of talent, how much talent I’m not sure-of, but he’s lazy and disinterested for long periods of the games he’s involved in.
Comparisons with Fletcher are extremely far-fetched for one reason alone: Attitude. No matter how Fletch’s touch and inexperience let him down in his early years, he got on the ball as much as possible, offered himself as an option to teammates wherever possible, covered as much ground between each box for 90 minutes flat, took on-board every piece of advice offered to him from experienced professionals around him; anyone who claims Gibson is in anyway comparable is either blind or has never watched Gibson play.
I’m not writing Gibson off by any means, but he’s got to understand he’s only at the beginning of his career and not the finished article. He expects to walk into the Irish team BECAUSE he plays for Utd, not because he’s playing particularly well, or regularly, for Utd. That’s the wrong attitude and he should look at the flaws in his game before demanding a place in the first team.
If you don’t believe me keep an eye out for the following when watching Gibson play:
1. Pointing at other teammates as an option for receiving a ball rather than offering himself / moving into a suitable position to receive same.
2. Dropping into a defensive position to pick up a ball from his own players, even though they’re under no pressure / are perfectly capable of bringing the ball out themselves / are one-down in terms of options to play to in the middle of the park (as Gibson is in a defensive position).
3. Literally hiding behind players instead of offering himself as an option.
4. Only taking real interest in forward movement when there appears an opportunity for him to ‘arrive late’ and take a pot-shot.
5. committing far too early when covering space in a defensive midfield position, in-turn allowing his marker glide past with ease.6. Too anxious to shoot from distance (though frustrating I can understand this one: he’s young, scored some great goals from distance and gets excited anytime it ‘looks on’)
To temper my points I’d like to add that I think Gibson has fantastic qualities: he’s definitely got ability in short and long range passing (will become more consistent over time), he’s got a fantastic shot and reasonable ability from a dead-ball, he’s incredibly fit (apparently one of the fittest at our club), he’s Irish so could be central to our chances over the coming decade
I hope as much as many who have posted here that the lad comes good, I just think he needs to keep the head down and let his football do the talking.
PS: On point, yeah Trapattoni’s suggestion that he play for a lower side etc. is nonsense / Gibson’s rebuttal was quite derogatory if you’re standing in Glenn Whelan’s boots, Trap never mentioned Stoke as far as I know.
Fergie should start him against Stoke then:)
Give him a chance to redeem himself and prove others wrong….
While it all sounds very comitted I’m betting Gibson’s gone within 18 months at the most. I agree with much that Jig 300 says about him. In the end of the day if a player’s own club manager can’t give him a fairly regular place why should an international manager continue to have faith. Norn Iron said the same thing about Healey and in the long term he hasn’t been able to win a regular place for club or country.
Darren, just give Ando your shot and move on!
Just work hard and be patient young grasshopper..
Lol “winning tackles instead of winning games” – quality comment!
just want to on diet,leave the dunk food alone, darron ,off topic
Such an attitude is always nice to see.
@willierednut
Trap door? I think there’s a Trapattoni reference there that I am missing, lol. Nah, just saying that Trap might not have been completely honest with him. Is it this important for players to have a lot of football under their belt when they play for their national side? If Ronaldo was dropped by Mourinho, would CQ start calling him to the national side? Gibbo is no ROnaldo of course, but you get the idea.
Some posters have made a few interesting points about his attitude and even his weight. Don’t know how true that is, but again, is this something that popped up right now?
Jig3000
agree with ya, noticed all them things myself.
offering himself when no need to, pointing to where the ball should go like a seasoned profesional when he should be making himself available.
i hate to slate players but on top of that he’s just not moblie enough aswell.
i wish him the best but im afraid i dont think it’l be with us. i think we’l sign a midfielder next summer (maybe 2 depending on Anderson or Carrick) & cleverley will be back. then after that Corrie evans & paul Pogba (who i think will be a world beater) will i rekon will get games this season in the CC in readyness for next season.
*stop calling him*
Costas – You got that wee joke lol. Jig3000 makes some interesting points. I’ll make a better judgement on him, when he’s had a run in the team.
Nothing more I love than a midfield player who can crack a shot at goal from 30 yards!! Gibbo can do this with great effect, unfortunately this is the only part of his game that is Utd class!! Really hope he does a Fletcher and proves me completely wrong bit honestly I don’t think he will make it at OT.
Cleverly is the future Scholes!!
Gee, agree, I like Cleverley much more than Gibo too. however, Cleverley still not proven in senior team competitive matches
I reiterate. The fitness coach Tony has always said that aside from Fletch Gibbo is one of the fittest players at United. He ain’t fucking fat just a big lad. Mark my words this lad WILL make it.
My god, splitting hairs saying he points at where to pass the ball. Alot of midfielders do this.
The lad was given a 3 year deal I believe not long ago so I reckon Fergie has faith in him.
ROFL
What does ROFL mean please?
@King Eric
It means Rolling On the Floor, Laughing
gibbo’s a good squad player, people like gibbo keep our club running smooothly. look at city, they got 20-30 million quid players on the bench and their pisssed off already
what says hed get into the stoke side?
Ryder91@19:37: “gibbo’s a good squad player, people like gibbo keep our club running smooothly”
agreed – if Darron can prove to be a versatile/valuable as his countryman, John O’Shea, then he’s a great asset. No team can win with just eleven players nowadays because injuries, suspensions, and other factors mean that the next-eleven is almost as important over the long haul of a EPL/CL season. Quality-in-depth has frequently separated UTD from the also-rans – look what happened to TheArse last year when Vermaelen got injured and Gallas went down – they had to rely on Sol Campbell and MIkael Silly; not surprisingly, they dropped points in most of their last 8.10 matches. Same thing happened to UTD when Rio/Vidic/Evans/O’Shea/Brown/RedNev/Fabio/Rafael and Evra wrere crocked concurrently – UTD had to play a 3-5-3 with a back line of Fletcherinho/Carrick/De Laet and lost points. The professional game is just not like FantasyFootball – battle-hardened back-ups are crucially important at unexpected times; if you’ve got them then they slip in seamlessly, if you don’t have them then you end up with Mikael Silvestre playing in central defence in must-win matches. With regards to Darron Gibson – I heard all the same stuff a few years ago when people were regularly slagging Darren Fletcher (calling him “The Socttish Player” and “Fergy’s LoveChild”) but now he’s Darren Fletcherinho (football genius) and probably as good as any box-to-box midfielder in the EPL. Guys don’t mature at the same age; some take longer to come good – fans might get pissed with Fletcher’s/Bibson’s failings but SAF watches them all the time and it’s his job to know whether a guy can improve or if he’s hit his upside-plateau. Apparently, the OldFootieKnight thinks that there’s more to come from Darron Gibson – that’s good enough for me. I always find that I’m wrong when I “second guess” SAF !
Brilliant posts at 15.44 King Eric, and of course the Nrd at 15.55.
You lads took the very words out my mouth. We need goals from the midfield and to develop an attacking midfielder one with a potent threat. I know what you mean regards Darron but why does Sir Alex not play him on a regular basis.
I watched him closely in a Manchester senior cup game closely recently, he looked languished and way to relaxed.
He needs a kick up the Arse to up his game to crack the premiership.Maybe Trappitoni and Sir Alex are in cahoots. Its a funny game football. Bloody hell eh!
maybe if Gibson had stayed with his actual country his international manager wouldn’t be critising him.
I’m just bitter NI don’t have this machine bossing our international midfield. Him and Corey Evans together at United and Northern Ireland? Epic
Costas – Thanks mate for telling me what ROFL means. I ain’t into all that “lol” and shite!
RedScot – Hi pal. The reason Fergie doesn’t play him regularly is the form of Paul and Fletch.
If Fergie trusts him enough to throw him on against Bayern fucking Munich I have faith!.
Sir Alex had faith in Fletcher and gave him games when EVERYONE hated Fletcher, go look at the ROM archives people comment about how Fletcher cant tackle!. Never write someone off so quickly hes only 22 and he could well develop into a good player.
It’s not always about unearthing the next Paul Scholes. players like John O’Shea and Wes Brown are crucial to our success..Gibbo could well become like them!
He can inprove if given d chance.eg,flecher,nani,evans n orderz.wen da oportinuty comes he should plz utilize it n inprove’s is game.Cos i av d believe is time wil sutrely come.
totally agree with Chep and Jig3000. three words: not good enough. and please stop comparing his contributions or ability to those of Fletcher and O’Shea; what these guys contribute to United is priceless. i wouldn’t say he is slow, but he’s sluggish with no flair. though i must say we all love him for his screamers. and just showed arrogance by taking offense and not trying to see the wisdom in Trap’s advice. he should know a starting place is not by merit of his club. Ireland has done without players way better than him; S. Ireland, and if he’s forgetting; he keeps on growing… He’s got to be humble and learn quick, or, fade into oblivion.
Legolas – The lad is a product of our Youth Academy and has been at United for years so I see no reason at all why he can’t be compared to those 2,. He is 22 for fuck sake. Sheasy is nearly 30 and Fletch 26.