After Arsenal’s 3-0 thrashing against City at Wastelands, the Gunners have gone unbeaten for 18 matches.
Unbeaten runs are something United have never been good at. Winning games is our speciality, avoiding defeat is not.
Whenever an Arsenal fan responds to our bragging over the Treble with their 49 game unbeaten run, I never quite get it. Whilst going over a season unbeaten is a brilliant achievement, it doesn’t outshine actually winning. Winning matches, winning trophies, that is what football is all about. The point of football is to score goals and to win, not to escape losing.
Arsene Wenger himself believes it is a negative thing to play with the intention of just drawing, wanting a points incentive scheme for teams who go out to score a lot of goals.
But when you look at Arsenal’s recent run, it’s not anywhere near as impressive as their fans would like it to be.
Last 18 Arsenal games
Chelsea 1-2 Arsenal (3rd)
Arsenal 1-0 Wigan (10th)
Middlesbro 1-1 Arsenal (19th)
Arsenal 1-1 Liverpool (2nd)
Aston Villa 2-2 Arsenal (5th)
Arsenal 1-0 Portsmouth (14th)
Arsenal 1-0 Bolton (12th)
Hull 1-3 Arsenal (15th)
Everton 1-1 Arsenal (6th)
Arsenal 0-0 West Ham (7th)
Tottenham 0-0 Arsenal (9th)
Arsenal 0-0 Sunderland (17th)
Arsenal 0-0 Fulham (8th)
West Brom 1-3 Arsenal (20th)
Arsenal 4-0 Blackburn (16th)
Newcastle 1-3 Arsenal (18th)
Arsenal 2-0 Man City (11th)
Wigan 1-4 Arsenal (10th)
W: 10 D: 8 L: 0
Points total: 38 from 54
Average position of opposition: 11th
Last 18 United games
Man City 0-1 Man Utd (11th)
Man Utd 1-0 Sunderland (17th)
Tottenham 0-0 Man Utd (9th)
Stoke 0-1 Man Utd (13th)
Man Utd 1-0 Middlesbro (19th)
Man Utd 3-0 Chelsea (3rd)
Man Utd 1-0 Wigan (10th)
Bolton 0-1 Man Utd (12th)
West Brom 0-5 Man Utd (20th)
Man Utd 1-0 Everton (6th)
West Ham 0-1 Man Utd (7th)
Man Utd 3-0 Fulham (8th)
Man Utd 2-1 Blackburn (16th)
Newcastle 1-2 Man Utd (18th)
Man Utd 1-4 Liverpool (2nd)
Fulham 2-0 Man Utd (8th)
Man Utd 3-2 Aston Villa (5th)
Sunderland 1-2 Man Utd (17th)
W: 15 D: 1 L: 2
Points total: 46 from 54
Average position of opposition: 11th
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i love this zeros till the Blackburn game )
Scott, you are very quick if your calculation )
Other than Chelsea, they havent actually BEATEN anyone in the top half of the table.
During their 49 game unbeaten run, did they even beat us that season? I don’t remember? Didn’t Scholes score the only goal in the FA cup to knock them out and we drew both times in the league? My memory is going!
As an Arsenal fan I have to agree that the majority of sides we have played in this unbeaten run have been average at best (should have lost at both Everton & Villa). However what this run did achieve, along with the signing of Arshavin, was give the younger players the confidence to move to the next level.
So, while the run itself is unspectacular the belief that it has instilled has given us a fighting chance in 2 competitions and we will still have a say in where the league title goes as we still have to play the top 3!!
sounds to me like someone is scared. i have to say that when The Arsenal went a season unbeaton i think you will find they also won the leauge, therefor going unbeaton wins things, this run of unbeaten games and the draws coincided are with the absence of, walcott, fabrigas,edwardo, rossicky, no arshavin and addibyor they have had the worst injury problems in the prem, do you realy think man utd would be where they are without the constant services of your top four players, no i didnt think so. you are about to recieve a lesson in football young man and its going to come so fast
An average United will have no problem against them.
ARSENAL ARE A QUALITY TEAM TO GO UNBEATEN ALL SEASON IS A GREAT ACHEIVEMENT.LOTS OF TEAMS HAVE DONE TREBLES MILAN BARCA REAL EVEN LIVERPOOL BUT THE CARLING CUP INSTEAD NO ONE HAS EVER GONE UNBEATEN ALL SEASON,WE WILL HAVE OUR HANDS FULL IM SURE OF IT.
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Couple of minor flaws:
You are calculating ‘averaging of positions’ for the teams now, not when the games were played.
Just last month the media were proclaiming that ManU were the greatest team EVER. And yet Arsenal have racked up the same number of points in the past 18 games. So what does that say about ManU and their incredible run? I quote ‘it’s not anywhere near as impressive as their fans would like it to be.’
And just what exactly is the point of this article? Pointless. Post a decent one for crying out loud.
You’ve scored more, we’ve conceded less, we’ve both been winning recently. Its an unremarkable run at the moment but we’re picking up momentum now and to have this run will be a definite confidence booster.
Is that the average united team that lost 2-1 at the emirates earlier in the season?
Good analysis, Scott. That’s what makes this site so good, even if we disagree on some things from time to time.
And I thought it was just City fans who were sposed to be bitter?
or is it that you need to mention Arsenal to get any decent number of hits…
The significance of the unbeaten run is that in managed to excorcise the shite performances that preceeded it. The team needed defensive stability; that fooked up the creative side (probably why Arshavin was signed) Now we are firing in both areas, even tho we once again have a shit load of injuries.
When Arsenal get past united in the Champs league, maybe then you’ll give the team some credit.
Look, i know things are looking a bit ropey, what with the scousers winning the league, the unpaid debt repayments and Ronnie and Lou Feringo leaving, but you still won the carling Cup…
Scottiee – it was your bloody manager who was calling us “Untouchable”!
Our run definitely isn’t special if you compare it with United’s performances… But that’s why we’re 4th and you’re top.
However it is rather important in the context of our season so far. Allows our young team to build up some confidence. And if it takes framing this 18 game streak in a positive light to do so (despite the number of draws) then I’m all for it.
Oh and there’s no point comparing the 49 game run to the treble… Both magnificent footballing achievements. United will probably never go the season unbeaten and Arsenal will probably never win the treble, so let’s just all hold on to our respective achievements and leave it at that.
aresenal have been lucky in one or two of those games also.. we will be too strong for them mentally thats my opinion.. walcott the little public school boy was out yesterday muttering about teams being scared of aresenal.. well if their scared of aresenal theo, then you must be shitting it of the premiership and champions league winners.. all this talk of we are not scared from cesc now today and theo yesterday, points to one thing, they are fucking scared.. you dont hear rooney or rio saying we are not scared of arsenal.. why? simple, because they are not scared of aresnal.. united to get the win in the 1st leg 2-0 and draw in the second at the that library they call a stadium
and to finish, winning the treble so far surpasses going the season unbeaten (which was a massive achievment), but winning the 3 major competitions you enter is an achievement that all gooner fans would swap for.. what is it.. nearly 5 seasons without a trophy
Our unbeaten run at the moment is only special in light of what happened before that in the league (results wise). There was never any way we were going to catch you after our crappy start to the season and all the stupid injuries we had. It’s more the media making something of the last 18 games not us Gooners
Although In that 18 game run you only picked up 8 more points than we did and we had, at one point, a huge amount of our best players out of action (that’s the only time I’m going to make any reference to the amount of injuries we’ve suffered). Gooners this season will look back and wonder what might’ve happened had this not happened.
As for our 49 game run….. (would’ve been more but for rooney’s cheating haha) that was special, as was your treble.
I’m looking forward to the CL semi and am glad that the second leg is at ours, here’s to a 7-0 drubbing of you lot!!!
And we shouldn’t forget where that unbeaten run ended…
Jesus christ
havent you got your own website where you can whinge about your shitty team
considering this is a website for intelligent united fans
even by some miracle if you did beat us and progress to the final, id like to see the mess barcelona (who will go to the final) will make of you, considering were the only team that can even make an impact against them
Funny that i thought all you yernited fans were up for a bit of banter
sadly mistaken then
i don’t know why no team can’t go near the 49 game unbeaten run but united is a team that knows how to break the unbeaten runs but they don’t know how to make one for them selves we made 49 let us get to 50 and then more
I hear yunited will go bust by 2017?
The point is that Arsenal’s team, right at this moment the whole Arsenal squad is firing. We don’t have off-form players.
Not the same for you.
Ole Gunner things change.A month ago it was us that could do no wrong.In April it’s more about gutting out than it is about being on form anyway.On Wednesday’s evidence,United are beggining to gut it out again.
let’s stop all this point scoring…….we are both very good sides (well actually utd an extremley good side), and both play football you know….the right way! Let’s just both make sure we get thru our semis this weekend and meet again at the end of May. It’s good to be involved again after years in the wilderness. Both Arse and utd fans i hope know their football, and if anthyning we should be taking the piss out of the reds of merseyside and the blues of London…….C’mon you mighty arse!!
PS: Let’s see if your opinion chages on Tuesday after we halt Liverpools season for good!
Red Dave,
Jesus Christ may well be a Gooner but as He hasn’t posted, so much of your rant is mis-directed.
The website may well be intended for ‘intelligent’ Man U fans but as it is linked to Newsnow any team that is actively tagged will appear on that teams respective site – just so you know.
Were you to reflect on who has posted what, you would be aware that many Man U fan’s post have not been ‘intelligent’ – a great shame.
Regarding the miracle of us beating you I’ll leave that to our No. 1 fan (see above). As for Barcelona, as all fans should know, in a cup final anything can happen. Who would have thought Liverpool would come back from 3-0 down to Milan and win. Just a thought.
Ole Gunner, you are the most brittle of the top 4 teams.. flaky would be an apt word.. most of your players will not have played in a cl semi final.. while ours will have won the cl (save for berba). This will make a big difference, our players are used to playing massive games.. Your team is used to choking on the big occasion and our certainly not used to winning trophies, which counts a massive amount.. United Barca Final… Cesc gone in the summer..
nick e my opinion is always high on Arsenal no matter what happens this Tuesday.The problem with that fixture is that you have little time to prepare for it.Let’s hope you will have plenty of firepower left.
Arsenal will one day win the Champions league.
Arsenal will one day win the World Fifa Club Cup
Arsenal will one day win the Super Cup.
Arsenal have won the FA, Prem, CC….
Arsenal may infact one day win the treble…
But United Will NEVER EVER EVER GO UNDEFEATED!
I would love to see the look on G.Neville’s face as Henry is headed towards him with the ball….Dont cry like Roy Carroll, Gary…your time is almost up….or Evra on Messi?
Look. This article is dumb. Pointless like Scott put.
Why are you scared of a young team that were struggling for 4th position?
David – that’s the point. I’m not arsed about going undefeated. We’ve never gone undefeated but we’ve still won 17 league titles and 3 European Cups. I’d take the league and European Cup double like last season over going undefeated any day of the week, wouldn’t you?
A team could go undefeated all season and get relegated on 38 points. Not losing for weeks or months is a great achievement, but WINNING is a greater achievement.
keanesmagichat
You make a good point there. Actually 5 of the players in our Starting XI are playing in the team for the very first time this season.
And we are in 2 semi finals.
What the piss does that say?
keanesmagichat,
You wish that were true don’t you? Arsenal players who’ve played a part in Champions League semis or Finals
Almunia, Clichy, Toure, Eboue, Fabregas, Alex Song, Walcott, Diaby….
@Scottiee:
Quote: “And yet Arsenal have racked up the same number of points in the past 18 games. So what does that say about ManU and their incredible run”
Uhm, last time I checked 46 is more than 38. Besides, our “incredible” run ended when we lost to Liverpool – take the 18 games before that and compare to your current run if you want and youll see an even larger point difference.
The point of the article is obiviously to show that going unbeatable for long periods is useless when you’ve got that many draws in the mix – so although its somewhat of a feat, being undefeated doesnt win you trophys alone. Sure, your 49 game unbeaten run was something special – but Ill take our treble any day, as would 99% other fans I imagine (last percent being some people with a Gunner flags up their ass).
Scott is winning the only thing that counts, even being almost half a billion in debt you still you think winning is all that matters? i can see a time
coming when in the near future the new owners of utd will stop the next manager of wasting money like fergie has done on substandard players and where will that leave you then.
Your point still isnt sticking…it is possible to go undefeated and get relegated…but memory serves me correctly when we went Undefeated did we get relegated or did we WIN the League?
We won it. Hence it is a greater achievement than just winning it with a couple of Embarrassing Losses to the team.
If we are counting Trophies.
Then we should forget the conversation because Liverpool are the better club.
But if youre talking about footballing Achievements…then Arsenal have the edge over everybody else in the unbeaten department. Full stop.
We’ve got 20 goals in our last 7 matches….this is the normal Arsenal we are used to Beating teams by margins of 3-0 or more.
The unbeaten run may not be important to u Scott, but its important to us. It means our lads gain confidence and experience at the same time.
Its pointless comparing United to Arsenal. Most ManU players have been together for 4 or 5 years now. This Arsenal team however, is a new team. Nasri, Arshavin, Song, Denilson, Djourou. All these lads are playing together for very first time this season. This is what makes an 18 game unbeaten run a incredible achievement for this young Arsenal team.
@DAvid:
Did you win CL that season? No you didnt – so Ill take some embarrasing defeats in the league and pick up the CL trophy along with the PL trophy instead of going unbeaten.
Ole Gunner, you forgot Adebayor who played in the semi for Monaco.
DAvid you have gone unbeaten throughout a whole season in the league.United have had a smaller yet memorable achievement in that department.We went unbeaten for the second part of the 98-99 campaign when we won the treble.That’s 33 games in all competitions and keep in mind that the schedule was brutal.In your underfeated season you lost to United and Chelsea because you couldn’t carry the load in all 3 competitions.So yes,49 league games unbeaten will never be replicated(thanx to us since we broke Chelsea’s 40 game run in 2005) but we can sayt that we have also done something less good but memorable as well in the unbeaten department.
David – you can win trophies without going unbeaten. You can’t win trophies if you don’t win more games than your opponents.
So, given a choice between 1. Going unbeaten for 49 games or 2. Winning the Treble, I’d pick winning the Treble, because I like to see my team win matches and win trophies.
In 2004, you won 26 games. Every team who has won the league since then has won more games than that. I’d say that is the greater achievement, because the point of football is to WIN, the point of football is not to avoid defeat.
Don’t get me wrong, 49 games unbeaten is an achievement. But winning games and winning trophies is more important than not losing. Arsenal’s Double seasons were a greater achievement than 2004.
come on Arsenal fans this year we’ll put a banter displaying (5 years) beside the Citeh’s one (32 years).. what is the point of going unbeaten for 49 games if you are not capable of winning any trophy any more..
and about swapping our treble with your unbeaten season, I bet would flying in happiness if you won a CL trophy and you’ll forget about (P38 L0), so how about winning the treble..
MICHELDU9..
Milan, Barca, Real and Loserfool didn’t win the treble, the only sides to win the treble are MANCHESTER UNITED, Celtic and PSV.
Manchester are the only one to achieve this in modern football era, and the only one to achieve this in a major European league..
so stop kidding yourself.
Arsenal TBH are a very good team with high spirit and attractive football, but for god sake stop comparing your achievements with ours, no offense but you are away behind us..
So fucking what! Arsenal are not the only team to go a season unbeaten. The following teams have also achieved this feat:
Benfica (1964/65)
AC Milan (1991/92)
Preston (1887/88), they also achieved the first ever double by winning the FA Cup the same season without conceding a goal. A much better achievement than Arsenal’s.
It’s all about winning trophies. The last 2 seasons we have won the league, we have suffered more defeats than the teams below us.
2006/07 – United won the title with 5 defeats. Chelsea finished Runners-Up with 3 defeats.
2007/08 – United won the title with 5 defeats. Chelsea finished Runners-up with 3 defeats. Arsenal finished 3rd with 3 defeats and Liverpool finished 4th with 4 defeats.
Fair points Scot, Costa, Cap
We didnt win the CL. We’ve never won it. I think that year was very special indeed for you guys. And i have to say that after an unprecidednted 7-8 minutes of extra time and double deflection goals to win the treble that was indeed a remarkably lucky season.
But you cant discredit that 49 undefeated WON us the League. Which is WINNING WHILE UNBEATEN.
Nobody else can boast that! Period!
Is the treble a greater achievement? I think it is a matter of opinion. As an Arsenal fan i dont think so because who knows…it might one day be repeated…but going Undefeated while Winning the league?
Kings,
Good point.
I didnt know you were a Benfica, AC Milan and Preston fan?
Wow.
Quick one to the other united imbercil, Wenger never ever said you were ‘untouchable’ he said you looked untouchable but might not be. And this point was proven by Fulham. We lost to Fulham 2, but we werent claiming to be GOD in a football shirt were we now. Oh and to the other united imbercil, if you write about us and we will come and have our side heard, who do you think we are, the media who are so far up Fergie’s bum that they know what princess flavour chewing gum he is chomping on.
DAvid – I’m United to the core mate. Just passing on some facts to all deluded Arsenal fans who think that their achievement is unique, when clearly it is not. If United lost 10 games in the league and won it, I would be happy.
I’ve got a porsche, yeah but I’ve got a ferrari, but my porsche goes fast, yeah well my ferrari goes fast too.
Blah blah.
Winning the treble is a wonderful achievement. Going an entire season unbeaten on your way to winning the league title is also a wonderful achievement.
Let’s keep to the point. For United, this season is about defending their league and ECL titles. For Arsenal it’s about developing their young team, building a side that can challenge for the title.
An unbeaten run, gives this Arsenal side confidence and belief, which is pivotal for their continued development and for any chance they have this season of exceeding expectation (by winning the ECL or FA Cup).
United are a finished article, with youth blended together with experience, an unbeaten run doesn’t mean anything to them, winning trophies does.
Arsenal are not there yet, but this season’s unbeaten run has shown that providing this team can stick together (and that is a big IF), then next season we may well have a team challenging for the title for whom an unbeaten run means only as much as it means to United this season.
Im an Arsenal Fan, cant argue with the facts! But i will say the reason Arsenals run is impressive, is because they were being battered by the media, Fallin behind Villa in the race for 4th… had BIG players missing, Cesc, Ade, RVP, Eduardo at diff times… and didnt crumble under it… it would have been very easy for them to completely crack, start losing games and not be in the position they’re in now. Yess United lost a couple, but id take your points tally over ours and take the couple of loses! Your key players and there standins turned your nil nils into 1 – nils… ours either werent there or there standins wern’t quite up to it… Shame as those extra 8 points would have given us a shout at the title.
As for the CL Semi, Weds nite showed what a top side United are.. they won the game in a proffesional way… they’re not in the best of form… but went to Porto where no english club has won and got the result they needed! Im glad they did ive wanted United in this Comp all season.. they’re the European champions, the biggest test for our young side, cant wait for 2 brilliant, high paced, exciting matches!
See you Mancunians in the FA Cup final aswell!! haa!
DAvid of course it’s a special achievement.I won’t ever take anything away from it. You always need luck for such achievements mate.Remember the United-Arsenal game at Old Trafford that ended 0-0?Ruud hit his penalty against the bar in the 94th minute.So you do need luck.We had our fair share in 99 as well,no doubt.The unbeaten run could have ended right there.
49 unbeaten was more special for the following reason:
It’s rare. Not only in England but in Europe. Your treble much less so.
And your treble was a great season for you, but I think Arsenal would have been worth a double in the same season. It took an Hasselbaink goal to give you the league, and that unusual Giggs goal the FA Cup. So the treble did not really reflect your dominance.
The point is to look at our last five games. We’ve won all five, convincingly, and we’ve won more outside of the Premier League as well.
Ole Gunner that’s what made the treble even more special.The quality of opposition.You could never dominate the Premier League against that Arsenal team and Giggs’ goal in a match we were playing with 10 players was special.You speak about Hasselbaink’s goal.Maybe you are right.Many United fans,me included would tell you that the year you went unbeaten the League became easier after Rio got suspended.We were first until that.Many outide factors can change a team’s fate but in the end every achievement is special.You can’t compare the two in my mind and that’s why i don’t say “i would choose this,over that”.
FFS! Are you lot STILL goin over this???
Goin 49 games unbeaten, including a whole effin season undefeated is a FANTASTIC achievement, not least coz the season before it happened fergie almost choked on his tea laughing about how it could not be done, EVER! It is a remarkable feat and the players will be Arsenal legends, and rightly so…
BUT, at the end of the day, I want my team to win a few things and winning the treble, however jammy a few things may have been or not, that is a great achievement too.
And, even as a Gooner, i’d say it is greater, simply coz we won one trophy from our undefeated run, United ended up with 3.
Ta
Tonde – read what Wenger says about us being untouchable before claiming the contrary.
He said we looked untouchable. The part about we “might not be” is something you said, not Wenger.
Scot the red;
That ‘untouchable’ comment was a throwaway line, that was picked up and bigged up by the lazy, agenda driven hacks. if you actually saw the press conference when he said it, it was blatantly a small aside to a few questions. It was headlines the next day obviously coz, as we all know, football hacks are the most lazy, cynical, twats in the world. And have the easiest job in the universe to boot!
Gripper agree about the tabloids.Look at today’s headlines.Fergie and Wenger have been respectful to each other for a while now so what do they do?They remember and republish all of the old quotes that one said for the other.At least Fergie gave them something new to talk about today.
Arsenal have won the league unbeaten, have their even been better league champions? Answer is no
I can see the treble being repeated someday but I don’t see a team going an entire league season unbeaten
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It is what might have been, it’s absolutely pointless.
there is history. not many people remember your unbeaten season nowadays but everybody knows what happened in 99.
you could argue the whole evening but to zero effect.
costas,
Your treble was not a mark of your dominance in 1999. It simply was not. Arsenal could have had a double that season and nobody would have said it was undeserved.
In our unbeaten season we were dominant, much more dominant than you were in 1999.
I am not the only one who says so. Ask any neutral, or even ask people in other sports.
Ole Gunner – ask any neutral what they’d prefer: A season unbeaten or the Premiership, FA Cup and European Cup all in one season, and you know the Treble is the one they’d go for.
Ole Gunner yes you were and i told you what the difference was.In 99 in both Cup and League we had to face an Arsenal team in their prime.What was your opposition in 03-04?Ranieri’s Chelsea,Houllier’s Liverpool and a United team which broke down as soon as it lost Rio.It was not as hard as it was in 99.The most dominant title win though was the Chelsea one from 2005 because they made the points record that stands until today.It’s easy to disregard what you haven’t accomplished.We do that for your unbeaten title win and you do that for the treble.That’s why i never compare the two achievements.
Exclude “the could have’s” from your posts. it’s silly.
costas,
I do see your point. And it’s a fair one. I guess we’re each disposed to give a favourable spin to the same facts.
But I would still discount your treble on those two counts.
In English football, nobody has done that in 100 years, and that includes a lot of very dominant teams. That Leeds team, Those Liverpool teams, Those Manchester United teams. Look at the other teams that have achieved it: One of the best AC Milan teams ever. Even teams like Porto, Celtic, Rangers, Real Madrid that completely dominate their leagues haven’t done it.
The treble is also rare but more common. And I simply won’t forget that Arsenal were worth the double the same year (a fact that made me physically sick about you lot winning the treble).
I think that my arguments against your treble are stronger than yours about 49 unbeaten. Yes, our opponents were relatively weaker than Arsenal was in 1999, but even in leagues where teams face very weak oppo, they don’t manage this feat. Celtic wins 9 leagues in a row, wins a treble but never manages to go a season unbeaten.
About asking neutrals. Our unbeaten season keeps being mentioned when sports fans are asked to name great sporting feats. That’s because it’s very rare. In some sports it’s even considered impossible.
oh my god. let them enjoy their unbeaten season. you have 100 more years to savour this moment while we’ll be making history of our own.
Jesus Christ, are you guys still babbling about this frivolous debate? You sound like a bunch of children quibbling over who’s dad is stronger.
Frankly as a United fan I think we have bigger fish to fry, to worry about arsenals unbeaten run. Like our form atm. We have been stagering about the ring for some time now, and I am hoping the Porto result is the beginning of us regaining title winning form.
Arsenal are a great side, and I concede my own personal bias here but with both teams playing there “A” game United will win. We all know that doesnt mean shit, because that is far easier said than done. But at the end of the day if we lose we will have no one to blame but ourselves.
No matter how many facts you put to the Arsenal fans, they always come back with the same shit argument about going the season unbeaten, even though it is FACT that other teams have done it. Obviously have great difficulty reading. Fucking doughnut supporters.
Corea, “you have 100 more years to savour this moment …” Exactly our point, I reckon it will take that long until the feat is replicated.
mj, yes, we are a great side.
Kings, what a perfectly pointless comment.
@cynch
just think for the moment (if it is possible for the gunner in this circumstances
) about how many hours per day SAF with all other managers in the EPL dream of repeating that outstanding achievement 
Maybe i am wrong but don’t you think that no one will ever achieve this feat except the mighty Arsenal ?
corea, you brought it up… i’m not some garden variety fan ready to spew vitriol in forums such as these, and let us admit that type positively mushrooms here… (i am good an proper supporter), but do you expect rainbows/bunnies/roses from an arsenal diehard with statements such as the first aforecited or this: “not many people remember your unbeaten season nowadays?” Arsenal supporters remember. And are extremely proud of the fact. No one questions Man Utd.’s quality, and you do not need to belittle other clubs’ achievements to bask in your own.
@cynch
of course you remember
and no one will take it away from you.
but sorry, my statement was very true. who talks nowadays about your unbeaten season and how many times the 99 season is remembered.
my post was a reaction to some gunner’s posts about how much the feat is important and to this endless “could’ve been’s”. as simple as that.
ps. you will always be our main contenders if you talk about the most entertaining football on the planet and i hate it. but this is true and no one will take it away from you. but for me ManU plays the most entertaining football and i don’t exactly adore the Arsenal games. Strange, don’t you think ?
“of course you remember
and no one will take it away from you.” haha. fair enough. sorted. i confess that i lose all sense of levity when supporters of other clubs feel it incumbent upon themselves to comment on mine. and yes, i am a bit of a drama queen.
@cynch
hehe ) but remember this is the year 2009
sorry, i don’t quite understand ypu point because i am not a native speaker ) so there is no need for it.
Best Regards…
Listen, you’re only as good as your last game…
The fact that Arsenal played pretty shite and still came away with at least a point should account for something. I understand that this is a Man United friendly website and that some of the views of the people that leave comments here have slightly blinkered/biased/moronic views on football let alone other teams other than the one they support – team in question here being Manchester United.
Let me start off by saying I think Man United are a great team and have – in my opinion – the best player in the world (today) in Cristiano Ronaldo. I know people have their opinions about him, but he’s a fucking great footballer in my opinion.
My team Arsenal are on a good run, no doubt about it. Whatever anyone thinks, the fact remains is that we are unbeaten and anyone who knows anything about football will know that keeping a run like instills confidence and thus the players start to express themselves and reach their full potential. Shit, even Song had a good game against Villareal and Robin Van Persie is starting to look like the real deal. We’re back ladies and gentleman and I’m sure none of have missed us, but we’re gatecrashing anyway.
Thankfully (for most of you reading this), Manchester United and Sir Alex won’t be so nonchalant in regards to Arsenal, because they know that if they show up thinking Arsenal have been on a flukey run and that it’ll be a piece of cake then I’m afraid your team are going to get well and truly fucked over.
Thank you and lets hope for a fucking great game of football by two teams who know how to fucking play.
Good luck.
Cynch – you are a helmet.
I’m not getting involve in this, because both achievements are unique, though like many, I would take the treble over a unbeaten season anyday.
Just one rant. David, who is to say someone going on another 49 unbeaten run is impossible? You dismiss the treble, but before you do, trying doing it for a start. Wait, how about breaking our 14 clean sheet record first?
Thank you Marq.But one thing that they will know is that they did not beat me in their unbeaten and i ended that unbeaten while i did them during my treble years.