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I Don’t GET England Fans

This was written by a City fan about Wayne Rooney: I sit there awaiting with baited breath for him to receive a beautiful through ball that he then latches onto, and promptly puts it in the back of the opposing net.

The insanity of an Ingerlurnd fan. One week they will come to Old Trafford and chant “you fat bastard!” at Wayne Rooney until their hearts are content. The following week he will score for England at Wembley and the same people berating him days before are jumping for joy and chanting “Roooonehhh! Rooooonehhh!”

I’m not claiming there aren’t any United supporters who also follow England, of course there are, but there are plenty who choose to shun the national team for a whole host of reasons, and even some of our players have a similar attitude.

I’ll watch England if any of our lads are playing and will certainly cheer if they score. There are some English players who I think are fairly harmless and don’t have an opinion on, but there are far too many who I think are total cunts. How can you support a team when so many of the players irritate the fuck out of you? I had a hard enough time with Carlos Tevez and Cristiano Ronaldo at the end of last season, so I’m not entirely sure how England fans do it.

John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Gareth Barry and Ashley Cole are wankers. They’ve all tried to fuck over their clubs and they all think they’re the big ‘I am’. I could speak at length about why just the thought of them makes me cringe but that’s not what this is about. The point is I strongly dislike them for how they behave, so how could I ever be happy to see them score? JT scores a header and the press are banging on about our very own ‘British Bulldog’. Frank Lampard scores a penalty and we’ll be reminded of the death of his mother and his ‘bravery’. St. Stevie scores and people start comparing him to our very own Sir Bobby Charlton.

Whilst we love Wayne Rooney the vast majority of Premiership fans do not. Quite the opposite. So given that he is the main man for England and their hopes of World Cup glory are firmly rested on his shoulders, how on earth do England fans cope?

If Rooney fucks up next summer, the press and rival fans will be more than happy to tear him to shreds. They did it with Beckham before they fell in love with him all over again. I imagine I can’t be the only one cringing when that mob start singing for Beckham to come off the bench given the way he was treated by this country’s fans after the World Cup 98. 

If Rooney does well, as he has been doing, he will be a god… until he puts on his United shirt again.

The City fan continues: I want to see him and them [United] fail on an apocalyptic scale, where women and children are crying, and cats and dogs are mating. However, as I said, swap his shirt to that of the Three Lions, and my position changes somewhat. Do I need help? Quite possibly so.

UNITED > England






 

82 Comments

  1. sofia says:

    This right here is why I will never support England. United > England.

  2. 20LEgend says:

    Sums it up for me. I can tolerate other players when playing for England but that’s it. I hope the United boys do well for England. More importantly, I hope they don’t get injured. The point about the 2010 World Cup is well made. The United players will be in the thick of the action but you can guarantee unless we win it – one of Foster, Rooney, Ferdinand or the other United lads will come back a scapegoat. United>England. That’s a fact!

  3. trevor says:

    Scott,

    Its what happens in Every National Side!

    I have to say that Steve G is the one that detests me the most! Although, when he plays for england and he scores…I jump off my seat and cheer as much as i do for rooney!

  4. MG says:

    Man City fans

    Second only to Liverpool fans in terms of delusion

    Long may it continue

  5. 7 theking 7 says:

    I rearly watch england games and i only really watch it if rooney or rios playing , not beacuse the rest are not united players just because all of the rest of the players should not be playing for england ie, glen jhonson, robert green Who are cracking players for there club but cannot live up to the pressure of an full international,

  6. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    I never ever got behind Richard dunne at Ireland still don’t moran and mcgrath where my Irish heros cause they plate for united I got a black eye for standing by Roy keane when the country turned against h, for what I’ll never know the man exposed the shit that the fai are, Gibson and oshea will always get my support but I’m a Manchester united fan alot more than an Irish football team fan. How could I bring my daughter up in a house where on Wednesday last year Robbie keane is the greatest striker in the world but pull on a red shirt on Saturday he’s a scouse prick. I can’t wait for Sunday

  7. wazza (Bezi) says:

    @Scott : John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Gareth Barry and Ashley Cole are wankers, lol

  8. Long John O'Shea says:

    Gotta Hate….. I too had a lot of disagreements over the boy roy…. still do… he was right.. mick mccarthy is a prick…..

    can bloody wait for sunday!!!

  9. kel says:

    To me, i never once think that England is more important to United. The national team make up so many players from different club and there is so many rivalry going on and you think they can play well together? Okay, they might play well on the pitch however, off the pitch and i don’t think they might be good friends. The bond in the national team is not stronger than club. Sometimes i think that if clubs are to play against national teams, the clubs will win against it. I know there are many good players from different clubs and it will be stronger than club however, bond are not that stronger than club is and that is a major factor that team are stronger than national.

    I only care about how united play and not the national team as i can’t make myself support players from other clubs in the national team. I’m not the one who scolds this and that player from other club and when comes to national team, support and cheer for them.

  10. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    I’d love to see England win the world cup my love of seen Rooney rio maybe Owen carrick and nev lifting the world cup far out ways my dislike of tiny tears lumps or Stevie me lifting it and same goes for any team.

  11. Bob Koh says:

    Some rich Arabs comes in and buys the club & throws money around to attract players and City fans thinks they have it made. Even IF they beat Arsenal & some strong teams, the idea of the stupid song ‘Blue Moon’ being played before a match just turns me off. Its nothing but Glory Glory ManUtd for me. England is watchable only if Rooney scores or Rio kicks the arse out of someone, or Carrick wins the ball in midfield and threads a pass for…..ROONEY to score. The rest of England are just shit…except for Ashley Young and I believe SAF will buy him next summer.

  12. Gudjohnsen says:

    United > England

    Simple as that…

  13. Revanth says:

    United>England

  14. theboogeyman says:

    Freddie Flintoff has an attitude like Gary Neville’s.Except instead of United>England,it’s Chennai Super Kings(My home team and the team I support)>England.There’s a pattern building here. :)

    I actually would like England to win the World Cup so as to see Wesley,Rio,Hargo,Wazza etc. all lift the Cup.But as I think of this I think of Stevie Me,Tiny Tears and Lumplard lifting it as well.So,I’d rather England not win it and our lads should settle for just the Treble.

  15. theboogeyman says:

    Forgot my manners.Good morning everybody!

  16. MUFC the Religion says:

    United > England

    I want England to win the World Cup, which they will. I don’t want Terry lifting the trophy. I don’t want Lampard or Gerrard to perform at all. Rooney has to be the player of the tournament if England win it. Rio to lift the trophy because Terry and Gerrard have their careers cut short, what a shame that would be. (sarcasm).

  17. aig alex is god says:

    good morning everyone.

    @boogeyman Chennai Super Kings.well mate i live in mumbai so i dont have too much option apart from saying Mumbai Indians.Ipl to large extent is easy money for the players.they can earn loads by playing for 1 month in IPL.to earn the same amount they will have to play for 8-9 months with the national team.money is a major factor today in all sports.

  18. PossePossebon says:

    UNITED>…wait, who’s England?

  19. Macedonia_United says:

    I like to see England and cheer for them as i like my national team.Maybe watching United and Premier league over the years maked me an England fan.
    But still United>England.The resaon hy England didnt qualify for Euro 2008 because there werent any United players in the squad that lost from Croatia at Wembley.

  20. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Aig is it true India pulled out of the 1950 world cup because they couldn’t play barefoot,

  21. Gooner77 says:

    Aahhh I stumbled across this as I’ve discovered I like some of the topics the Scott pulls up and have started to check some of the discussions that go on here – apologies for gate crashing this as a Gooner but this is something that I have thought about a lot myself.
    Scott do I take it from your reference to England as ‘England’ rather than ‘Us’ that you are not the biggest follower of our national side? If so then you are the same as me and for many of the same reasons you have outlined above. I think for the best part of this decade I have not been able to muster up any kind of affinity towards England. Firstly because I hate nationalism and I hate what happens to the country when we are in a tournament, suddenly people who know nothing about the game are screaming England and when we inevitably do not win it they scuttle off for another two years.
    Also because like you and cannot suddenly start liking players that I hate for the rest of the season Fat Frank, Ashley Cole, Terry and yes Rooney as well as others. That’s not to say I hate all of them, I lIke Gerrard and I was a big fan of Scholes in an England shirt when he played, but I just cannot get away from the brash WAG culture that surrounds our national side and that I don’t support them for most of the year. I have to say I have a lot more respect now Capello is in charge, because as a man he appears to command respect, unlike McClaren and to a lesser extent Sven.
    If we start playing some great stuff like Spain in the last tournament or Zidane’s French side then I might get more excited by them. Sounds like a fair weather fan right? That’s because when it comes to national football I am. As far as I’m concerned international football is about enjoying the best team on display, generally that comes from one of the Latin/South American countries or Holland. Even that has been tarnished a bit because we have so many foreign players here that inevitably almost every side has a player that plys his trade in the Prem. Anyway for me the real business of football is with clubs, international football is when you put your feet up and enjoy what there is on offer. I know my opinion is in the minority but that’s just how I feel.

  22. jespermoses says:

    ive never been fussed about england unless one of our players gets injured on international duty.

  23. wazza (Bezi) says:

    @GHTT : have heard that story before and it’s true i guess.

  24. aig alex is god says:

    ghtt

    hi mate.as far as i know it is true.FIFA did not allow India to play barefoot and therefor India had to withdraw.of Course I was not there that time but i have heard a lot about this.in the end only 13 teams participated because France withdrew too due to trvelling problems. Ever sincethat football in India has been going downhill.very sad story,the condition of the stadiums and the poor financing.all money is being invested in Cricket.Even our national sport hockey is on the decline.

  25. redphil says:

    Great piece again scott, but may i just say what urks me most?

    Its fellow united fans not supporting their country because ‘its the united thing to do’. This is a load of old poppycock. For christ sake have a back bone and opinion for your selves. Its not the ‘united thing to do’, its a theory that a lot of united supporters believe in…. for a sane reason, not because other reds are doing it.

    I dont follow england. I follow united. Not because other reds are doing it, but becasue its what i believe. The amount of reds that just follow the crowd do my head in, half of them wont even know the many reasons to not support england.

    Sheep do my hedge in.

    United > England

  26. Dakota says:

    United>England

    As i support the Netherlands :)

  27. aig alex is god says:

    dakota

    ya mate.the dutch really play some brilliant stuff.i like spain.they too play football the way it should be played.

  28. Dakota says:

    @ aig

    things looking up now mate..after winning the nehru cup and moving up in the rankings by 2 places to 151!! :)

  29. Dakota says:

    @aig

    but they are not the luckiest on the football ground..

  30. keano99 says:

    UNITED > than every international team in the world, screw the lot of them we have our own nation lads the glorious REPUBLIK OF MANCUNIA.

  31. CROoney says:

    lampard is a class player and the best person in england national team

  32. frodoisdead says:

    it seems to me that the people who care about england are the people who support teams who aren’t winning trophies.

    + what would everyone think if england had been consistently successful ever since 1966? i know, for me, one of the reasons i dislike england so much is that they are just a constant letdown. but what makes it worse is that people actually think england can win the world cup. i’m dreading next summer for the fact that there are going to be so many people eating their england shirts and with flags on their cars and hanging out of windows. it’s almost as annoying as the last night of the proms, which i forced to bloody sit through. /rant

  33. King Eric says:

    Unbelievable – Even if Gerrard or Fat Frank got the winning goal in the World Cup Final I would still feel sick and want to put my foot through the telly. Cannot ever imagine CHEERING for them.

    United > Ingerlund.

  34. Dakota says:

    @CROoney

    i dont think Scott is tallking about Lampards ability on the field..i guess it has more to do with the fact that he tried to stab his fuckin club in the back and is a complete prick..

  35. Gooner77 says:

    @frodoisdead

    Yeah I agree, if we had a national side like Brazil ( I know that’s a crazy idea as Brazil are totally unique ) then maybe we would all feel different and have genuine pride. I think much of what we feel is due to the media, much as we like to try and not be affected by it, it is impossible not to be. It’s like hype on yoru club side x 1000. I’ve never understood how even when England win they will still get slaughtered if they haven’t played attractive, possession football etc. A good win will mean that we are suddenly world beaters and anythign remotely negative and we are a disgrace and people go along with that. ‘Oh England are so hit’. England are NOT shit but I have never seen them hits the heights of some national sides. A few performances have been world class but int he main it is pretty pedestrian stuff. I have never seen England put on performances as good I see week in week out from the likes of United, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.

  36. King Eric says:

    Bob Koh – I sincerely hope SAF does not buy Young. Do not rate him at all.

    MUFC The Religion – England will not win the WC as long as I have a hole in my arse.

    Gooner77 – Good post, so it’s not just United fans and the dippers who have a lethargy to the National team.

  37. Irish Red says:

    shity fans are constantly full of bulshit just like their judas manager. Wengers comments yesterday are priceless on adebayors stamp “You ask 100 people, 99 will say it’s very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes.” reiterates the point that city cunts are full of shit!!!

  38. aig alex is god says:

    off topic.but this is something i feel i have to say.and its regarding the ginger prince.i was amazed that people said scholes has been poor this season.i remember a few names but wont mention them.it hurts me to see people saying such things about the one club genius we have.only player i think who has no agent.we havent replaced him and will struggle when he calls it a day.okay he makes the odd silly tackles but in no way should that overshadow the great years he has had at united.people will realize how much he means to us when he is no longer there.thank you scholesy for your service to the club.true legend.the word legend falls short to describe the man.

  39. Dakota says:

    @King Eric

    “England will not win the WC as long as I have a hole in my arse”

    brilliant mate! :)

  40. Muggaz says:

    Hi everyone.

    I think this is certainly something down to individual tastes.

    I can categorically state that the Australian football side comes first before my love of United, but it’s like comparing apples to oranges because they are completely seperate beasts.

    When Harry Kewell signed for Liverpool, I was deeply upset because of my love for United, but I still wanted him to do the best he could do for the sake of the Australian national team. I think Australians and English people have very different ideas of patriotism and nationalism though.

    I will stand behind my national team for eternity, but that couldn’t possibly diminish my love for all things United… although I digress, I love Tim Cahill so much simply because he plays for Everton, and he inspires hatred from the dippers, but I have no qualms in saying I would probably love him just as much if he played for Liverpool.

    That being said, I hope and pray to the powers that be that Australia is drawn in the same group as England for the WC, so we can do one on them and I can laugh at the aforementioned dickheads like Terry, Lampard & Co.

  41. Muggaz says:

    AIG – how are you mate.

    I don’t think anyone has said the Ginger Ninja has been poor – people have just stated he has not been at his best… If anyone said he was crap, I would be the first to have a go at them.

  42. King Eric says:

    Muggaz – “Australian football comes BEFORE United”? Surprised at that but fair enough. United every time for me.

    Dakota – Cheers

  43. Gudjohnsen says:

    Hahaha that is actually a great comment by Wenger.

    “You ask 100 people, 99 will say it’s very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes.”

    Good one….

  44. Gooner77 says:

    @Muggaz

    Your right English people are Australians do have very different ideas about patriotism.
    I think has a lot to do with our history. If you live in a big city like me and I would imagine the same for many fans in Manchester, I think you can have a diminished sense of national pride. I’m a product of the empire, my father is from what was once a colony and many of the people I grew up with are of a similar background. I’d even go so far as to say that when you live in London, much of it doesn’t feel like England. If you drive an hour out of London you feel a huge culture shock. That doesn’t mean I don’t like or love England as a place but I just think it changes your perspective on nationalism. Australians are far more patriotic and it feels that as a nation they have more to prove than we do. However that’s not to say there are not plenty of patriotic English people, there are, but when Australians travel over here they will invariably go to the big cities and those that they encounter there will be less inclined to show national pride.

  45. aig alex is god says:

    muggaz.hi mate .i am fine.to be fair scholesy has been good in my view.certainly better than carrick and ando.was giving spurs a lesson in passing.we cant expect him to be the same old scholesy.i can challenge anybody to name a better passer in the history of the premier league than scholesy.he can still put many in our team to shame.for a 34 year old he still looks class.age is catching up and we have to accept it.

  46. confoundedbridge says:

    football fans in fickle attitude shocker

  47. theboogeyman says:

    aig-lol Your loss for supporting losers.

    My sporting teams go:
    United=Ferrari
    CSK
    Indian cricket team.(Don’t follow them really,just support when they play)

    Another comment from Wenger:”If somebody stamps in your head that way,you wouldn’t say thank you very much and turn the other cheek.Only Jesus Christ did that.”

    I’m surprised you saw it in the first place,Arsene.

  48. paddys jumper says:

    There is no contest between england n utd , utd always by miles , but also i love football n wil watch ne game i can , just 4 the luv of the game, of course i want england 2 win the world cup im english n im proud of who i am , as 1 of the comments above sed , my luv 4 roo , hargo , rio wes , foster neville , danny w ( if he makes the squad as a wildcard ) n also owen now hes a utd player , carrick , mor than outweighs my hate 4 ne1 else , it wud b amazin 2 c in my lifetime england world champs , but id rather utd win the champs league , no question .

  49. Muggaz says:

    @Gooner

    Thanks for your comments mate – I live in London and you raise some very valid points – it sometimes doesn’t really feel like England except for the iconic images of the Tower Bridge and the Gherkin or the Wheel or whatever, but it feels like a big melting pot of a lot of cultures.

    If truth be told, I feel like I relate a lot more to Europeans than Australians, hence my reason for living over here, but I did live in Australia for the first 22 years of my life, and I can safely assume that is where my desire for my national side, whether it is Cricket, Football or whatever, to win – We do have a massive chip on our shoulder, so much as to say, ‘look, we were once a colonial backwater but look how far we have come’ Sport is one of Australia’s main vehicles of expressing ourselves to the rest of the world, because we are a very young nation and don’t have any other means like art, economics, war or other historical achievments…

    My father was from Manchester though, and it is through him that my love for United began, alas, he supported the Australian national sides in any sport that I remember watching with him – Unless anyone knew for certain, they would have no idea he emigrated to Australia and they would have thought he was a true blue dinky di Aussie upon meeting him.

  50. EddieMunro says:

    @frodoisdead – got a point there. A lot of the England support is from lower league clubs, it’s their opportunity to follow a team with a small chance of success.

    Keane was once asked why Scholes used to put in better performances for United than England, his reply “cos the players at United are better”. (Wonder if Neil Webb felt the same way…)

    Can’t stand England for all the reasons you’ve put in the post and the fact that it’s always a United player that gets the blame and if they can’t find one they blame an ex-united coach. ITV’s recent coverage bordered on propaganda.

  51. Gooner77 says:

    @ Muggaz

    Also what happens when you live in another country is that you become more patriotic to your homeland. I bet if I lived in Australia I would become more patriotic towards England……

  52. unitedviews says:

    I’d like England to win the world cup; I really would. The country would be on a high and there’d be the mother of all parties that night.

    But I know that I care more about United than England because if United drop even 2 points in the league it takes me days to recover. If England lose a match or get knocked out of some competition I’m over it by the 2nd pint.

    There have always been players I’ve disliked wearing an England shirt: from John Barnes to Martin Keown to Chubby Frank Lampard. But the one I really hated, really despised was… Michael Owen. I’m still getting my head round that one.

  53. Sunny says:

    I am not interested in football, I am interested in Manchester United.

    If United players play for their national sides I root for those players only.

    My dad came home in 1972 from London having seen United play at the Arse. Wearing his United scarf he was beaten by those thugs and he came home and laid the bloodied scarf around my shoulders, I was 5 years old. I will never forget that. In school i was harrassed by Pool supporters thoughout the 70s and 80s. Yhen Fergie arrived and my life changed… United > all

  54. Ben says:

    I leapt from my seat when Rooney scored against Spurs. Four days earlier I punched the air the air when Grerrad headed home. I’m not as emotionally attached to the England team. Nor do I think they are as good as United. But refuse to support them?

    I know this gets mentioned on blogs and forums a lot but I think it’s an attitude held only by a small hardcore minority. In real life I don’t know any United fans with this attitude. My local where I watch United games that aren’t on sky is always full when England are playing. The same people will be there.

  55. willierednut says:

    I dont understand some england fans if my wee country northern ireland ever got to a world cup i think i wud cry wiv joy. I can understand why some united fans cant get behind england becoz the abuse our players ave got down the years, particurly becks, so i can understand scott’s point. ps looks like tevbitch is’nt going to make it for the derby lucly cunt

  56. ajopaul says:

    Well, will support any epl player who plays for England. yes would luv to see united players outshining. No harm in cheering stevie’s or lampards once in a while…

  57. Ben says:

    Oh, two more things…

    When Rooney scored for England he celebrated with Frank Lampard. if he can do that why can’t I support England? If someone who gives body and soul for Manchester United can put aside club differences then so can I.

    I would love you to explain your disdain for England to Sir Bobby Charlton. Or Bryan Robson. Or Gary Neville.

  58. PrahaladtheUnitedFan says:

    Off the topic, sorry, but that cunt Kenyon apparently has stepped down as Chelshite Chief Executive. Looks like they too realized he’s shit after the Kakuta fiasco!!!

  59. willierednut says:

    Of topic breaking news on ssn peter kenyon to leave chelsea on the 31st october wonder were he’s going? the bitters

  60. Suprah says:

    As a United fan, I will ONLY accept England winning the World Cup if a United player scores the winner in the final and a United player in the England team is given the Golden Ball as best player in the World Cup. Rooney will be enough for both occasions ^_^

  61. Xyth says:

    Off the topic, Peter Kenyon is leaving Chelsea after the splendid job that he did there. I am worried though they will try and poach Gill now!!!!

  62. Bebeto says:

    That’s my biggest gripe about England fans. They’ll reach an equilibrium during the run up to major tournaments, but you unequivocally know that all bets are off during the ensuing Premiership season.

    If they weren’t the same ilk prone to spewing every bit of monosyllabic verbal they can conjure, them enthusiastically chanting Rooney’s name wouldn’t be so irritating.

    As ever, football is brimming with hypocrites. Fans chant for the ball to be kicked out when it’s their player who has taken the bullet but also implore their own team to play on when the opposition is attempting it.

    The same twisted logic is applicable to the national team. They go out, it’s another two years before they’ll get another go. There is no conceivable benefit to continuing the adulation whilst there’s so long to wait. Fucking slate them.

  63. debaser says:

    Kenyon would totally fit in with the thugs at City

  64. redevil1878 says:

    Balls to the world cup, theres 3 better comps going on in europe and england and i dont like OUR players gettin damaged (and ineffective for OUR club) for a CUNTtry that is just itching to flog the fuck out of them wen they dont do so well.

    UNITED>england!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    RED ARMY!!

  65. Doghouse says:

    United > England every time.

    I think I fell out with England a while ago as a team and I believe this happened when Beckham fell of his pedestal and the likes of Terry, Lampard, Cole and Gerrard really started to take centre stage. The team became lazy and disinterested and frankly an embarrassment. It’s not even about the results, it’s about the attitude. I don’t mind England losing but I do mind England playing shit football and not caring about it. I mean what sort of team do you build around Lampard? One that relies on the long ball and a diving colossus of a striker up front. What team do you build around Gerrard? Losers. What team do you build around Cole and Terry? Mercenaries. You want Terry to score off corners tape a tenner to the ball.

    For what it’s worth though I think there might be a change coming. I think the epic work rate of Rooney and some of his contemporaries such as Lennon is shaming the old guard, and I think that as more younger players emerge, and as more of them take their cue from Rooney, I think we might see an England team we can be proud of again, a team who feel proud to wear the shirts, not entitled to them, and who are looking to play their best game every game.

    I think it is no coincidence that when it is United players calling the tune for the England team, as it was when Beckham was captain, that the England team has heart and is worth supporting.

  66. Shimo says:

    I grew up watching Football Made in Germany, so internationally I support the Germans. Probably not a popular statement on a English club supporters website. I became a United supporter actually later, my first club was Hamburg SV as a 8 year old.

    Still, I love football. International football is fantastic, it truly is the beautiful game.So that is one reason to support it, because simply you love football and like competition and such you choose a side to support.

    Others support their national team because it makes them feel patriotic or they hate the other Argies or someone else and want their country to show them what for.

    When it comes to support, you tend to put aside dislike for a particular player or even style of management and support the team wholeheartedly. Take for example Banana on the boards, constantly harping about this player is not good enough and blah blah. Get behind the whole team irregardless of who you don’t think is good enough and SUPPORT them.

    England are playing some good football at the moment, so I enjoy watching them. I’ll root for them, including the wankers, when they aren’t playing Germany.

  67. onemanunited.wordpress.com says:

    WE’VE WON IT TWOOO TIMES WE’VE WON IT TWOO TIMES ONCE MORE THAN ENGLAND WE’VE WON 2 TIMES

    WE ALL AGREE UNITED ARE BETTER THAN ENGLAND

  68. Mark the Devil says:

    The turning point for me was when this two-faced country turned against becks after the 98 wc. Since then i’ve only got a passing interest and thats only because of the united lads. And come on you can’t expect any self-respecting united fan to cheer for stevie starfish etc! Its just not on.

  69. red rossa says:

    rooney should have played for ireland :)

  70. SteRDLK says:

    Yeah its hard to support players from rival clubs (and we have many), but I still want England to do well, just nowhere near as much I want United. Probably 4 main reasons for this

    A – I can attend United games
    B – United games take up the majority of the calnder year, England games rarelt take place, and when they do it interupts the club football.
    C – The FA are complete idiots who are blatant money grabbers. My love of the national team started decreasing when they stopped doing games all over the country.
    D – The media hype is sickening.

  71. King Eric says:

    Ben fair enough mate if you can do that. I just cannot get interested by Ingerlund. I don’t know about all United fans but I can safely say I aint jumping a bandwagon because United fans don’t like England. I just cannot bring myself to get excited over half the cunts in the team. Maybe my attitude is wrong and I should sort it for WC but just no interest. I actually find myself, and I said this a few weeks ago deep down wanting the other team so the media get off their silly high horse about them winning the world cup. Actually semi cheered when Croatia scored. I know Rooney hugs fat Frank but lets not forget Rooney aint a United fan. May get slated but is he or most players actually as passionate about their clubs as that clubs fans?

  72. King Eric says:

    Doghouse – “You want Terry to score off corners tape a tenner to the ball.”

    Spot on mate.

  73. RedDeviled Egg says:

    Holland’s going to be taking the World Cup anyway so there’s no need to fret over England.
    They’ll play as good as they can and it still won’t be enough

  74. Corea says:

    I don’t live in England and can not argue with Scott 100%.
    But. I will watch WC and wish success to some of the teams including England for some reasons.
    1. I hate some of the teams like Germany, Italy and don’t want them to win anything.
    2. If Rooney, Rio, Wes etc were happy I will be happy with them.
    3. Yes, it’s strange seeing Gerrard, Lampard play but summertime is really killing me.
    I think not every supporter in England hates Rooney but most of them do. And the reason for that is so very obvious. He is good, talented but what is more important he has guts and aggressive. You usually don’t adore this qualities in the opposition teams.

    The bottom line though is always the same

    United > England
    PS. Especially for someone who is not british. ;)

  75. Jones says:

    Try being Welsh.

    The only reason I ever went to watch them was to watch Giggs and Hughes when he was still a United player.

    The general attitude of the ‘Nation’ makes dislike the national team and like most of the posts I don’t like 99% of the players becasue they can’t be arsed so what’s the point. United > Wales.

  76. Kings says:

    The whole concept of England makes me cringe. I will only take a passing ineterest if our players are playing – I love them and that’s all that matters to me. If there are no United players involved I will not watch them. The second Rooney scores I will mute the T.V because hearing those cunt fans chanting his name is enough to make me want to vomit. The media are fucking cunts, crucifying Beckham after the 98 World Cup, especially the Sun doing effogies of him. 3 and a half years later they are licking the peanuts from his shit and are putting pictures of his foot in papers and getting people to buy them and put their hands on it to heal it – what the fuck! It is a continuous pattern with every forthcoming tournament, our players are the ones that hold the key to International success, but if all goes pear shaped it’s always the United players fault. Nothing to do with the fact that England will always be behind the likes of Brazil, Spain, Italy and Holland with regards to overall quality.

  77. King Eric says:

    Kings – Morning mate. Spot on. I remember that fucking foot that the Sun put in the paper for people to heal! Stupid cunts.

  78. jamiemufc1974 says:

    united>england every fuckin time! beckham effigies in 98, the phil neville penalty in 2000, the slaggin off of becks and personal abuse wearing an england shirt, the slating of rooney 1 minute, the adulation and chants of rooooooneh! the next! fuck em all!

    On a lighter note, roll on sunday! bring on them bluenose cunts! :-)

  79. Saad says:

    England for the world cup only if Rio is the captain and Rooney fires em to glory

  80. Tufty says:

    There are more United fans in the England Members club than there are fans of any other team.

  81. Scott the Red says:

    Tufty – given that there are far more United fans than any other in this country, it’s not a massive surprise.

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