If this is a red, Carraghers is a red. Also carragher had already pulled down rooney after rooney turned him just inside the liverpool half when caragher was the last defender. Also carragher had clattered rooney in the 11th minute by going to ground 2 footed on him to stop a united break. Both of these could have been yellow cards in themselves, not to mention the other fouls he comitted.

The argument for the referee is based on the 2 or 3 big decisions (carra’s yellow, carricks pen appeal, vidic’s red) which can all be argued to be correct(not that i agree!) but it wasnt just these big decisions, it was marriners general performance throughout the game which disapointed, the sucession of fouls he let ‘pool players get away with. Carragher should probably not have been on the pitch to bring owen down!

Yet the media have lauded carraghers performance as wonderful. fucking ABU society!

Glen Johnson would easily catch up to owen, so it wasn’t a clear-cut scoring opportunity, just like Evra would have caught up to Kuyt. Vidic and Carragher both got yellow cards. Correct decisions.

we’re not dwelling on the what if’s here, we lost. be it by the poor judgement of the referee, or our own poor game.

the point is that the fouls DID happen, blatant ones that were not called, and someone here claims otherwise on each incident you listed down.

it’s like saying the beachball had no effect on THAT goal, even after watching replays that obviously shows it did.

pulling out the same old line after driving yourself into a corner every single time. bravo.

On another day, any one of those fouls would have led to a red card or a penalty. But yesterday the ref only had eyes for the scousers. Such is life.

I guess that SAF can’t comment on Andre Marriner’s vision now, can he ? If he does the FuckAll will have a shit-fit and call him onto the carpet for “bringing the game into disrepute” by having an opinion !

- Carrick wasn’t tackled blatantly;
- Giggs wasn’t fouled in the edge of the penalty area;
- Rooney wasn’t fouled when he overturned Caragher;
- Owen wasn’t dragged down by Caragher.

The fact that we lost we should move on, however there is no guarantee that this would not repeat in the future. Graham Poll may disagree, but I bet he could not argue with the fact that the ref did not do a good job at all. (ie: hw many fouls did Lucas and Carager commited and how many yellows did they get)

Looking fwd to our next game