Dimitar Berbatov was the Premier League’s top scorer seven months ago and lifted a record breaking 19th title with Manchester United. He has been fourth choice striker at the club this season though, behind Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernandez.
The club tried to sell the striker in the summer following his omission from the Champions League final squad but the player wasn’t having any of it, determined to stay on our books and fight for his place and has behaved admirably since.
Whilst Berbatov’s contract expires in the summer, meaning he would be allowed to leave for free, United have the option to extend his deal by a further year. If you are to believe the manager, that is what the club is intending to do.
“There is absolutely no reason for me to let him go,” Ferguson said last month. “He is an outstanding footballer and we will give the extra year. He plays a great role and he trains well. He has no complaints. The boy is a great professional and we are happy for him to be here. You need a good number of strikers in the modern day. If you look back to 1999, we had four great strikers. They all played their part. That is exactly what will happen today.”
However, Berba is one of the highest earners at the club and if the policy from the summer is to be continued, where we saw the likes of Wes Brown and John O’Shea replaced with younger players on much smaller wages, it wouldn’t be too surprising to see him leave in January, when at least we could get some sort of a transfer fee for him too. It’s a disgrace to think we could sell him whilst keeping the likes of Federico Macheda and Mame Biram Diouf but that’s a possibility under the Glazer ownership.
Speaking to Bild, Berbatov’s representative, Ivan Dobrinov, has claimed the talk of the Bulgarian returning to his former club, Bayer Leverkusen, is not just a rumour. United will let the player know in the next week whether his deal will be extended for another year, and if it’s not, he will be free to leave in January.
“It’s more than a rumour,” Dobrinov said. “Leverkusen have it on their minds to get Berbatov. There is contact, but nothing concrete yet. It all depends on United’s plans. We wait until 2nd January. Until then, United have the option but if that does not happen then Berbatov would be a free transfer in the summer. The player has never forgotten Leverkusen, the club is still very dear to him. Furthermore, he has a good relationship with the leadership at Bayer.”
Yesterday Leverkusen CEO Wolfgang Holzhauser was reported to have confirmed the interest.
“I would even say that the contact is friendly. But there is certainly nothing concrete at the moment. I also read that Manchester United would like to extend his contract.”
Today though, following an interview with Deutsche Presseagentur, Holzhauser claims Berbatov’s agent is just stirring things and that they haven’t tried to sign him.
“A transfer of Dimitar Berbatov to our club is pure speculation and we will not partake in this gossip,” he said. “Things have been forced by his agents and it displeases me to know that. We have remained in close contact with Dimitar since he left the club but this is purely on an amicable basis.”
In just his second league start of the season against Wigan, Berbatov scored a hattrick, showing that he still has a part to play. Wayne Rooney and Danny Welbeck were both given a rest and the Bulgarian ensured we got three points regardless. Will he be happy to be used in this way? I don’t see why not, considering that’s how he ended last season.
“My mind was always set on joining Manchester United,” he said two months ago. “How can you not go to United? I don’t play for money. I play for glory and winning championships. I’m happy here. My family is together in Manchester. I hear people complain about the weather, there’s nothing to do and the food. But, for me, it’s not like that. I play for a club I love, the biggest club, and everything else doesn’t matter.”
We would have to understand if he chose to leave though because he is too good to be used as sparingly as he is at United. Leverkusen’s top scorer this season is Eren Derdiyok on 6 goals which a tally Berba would obviously feel confident of beating. Berbatov spent six seasons at Leverkusen and according to his agent would have no problem with returning. He turns 31-years-old next month and this could be his last opportunity to sign a big contract. However, it would be quite a step down to join Leverkusen, who are currently 6th in the Bundesliga.
“Manchester United are at the top,” he said in the summer. “Where can you go from there? If you go somewhere else it is a big step down.” Is he prepared to make the big step down? Will United make that decision for him? Four days until we find out…
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I don’t believe for a minute that Berbatov will leave. He wants to win trophy’s with United, and Sir Alex knows his tremendous value. It’s a great deal for both parties should he see out his career here. Money will not be a big issue. he won’t be greedy, and we will pay him fairly.
If he leaves on a free transfer, I’ll vow never to post on ROM again.
Ever the professional – Berbatov.
This is a week old story
Couldn’t we just have a nice blog like New Year Predictions or something?
Some of us have just had too much Turkey still not digested…
Who knows,if it’s an attempt to save money I would suggest they start with wee Mikey and I could give another two who would more than cover his wages.How can you be rid of your previous season Golden boot winner?Ah could it be he is thought not to be United quality.
Whether Berba leaves or not remains to be seen. Personally I would love him to end his career at United. Either way it would fantastic to see him at the club in some coaching role in the future…
NRD
Evening pal
I love Berba, I love his ability and skill, his attitude and his professionalism. Besides, he loves the club, and that to me is worth everything.
fred- I may have started posting now but I have been following this blog from 2007-2008 season so i know a hell lot about this blog than you think junior.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don’t have enough time like you to always be on this blog and talk nonsense and do nonsense so I am not 2012 or 2012 or Fred .
Think about you speak or don’t bother to reply
Hello everone Berb will stay at united he is the best anyone agree or disagree that Berb will stay or go
I’m with CedarsDevil, I’d love him to end his career with us.
There isn’t anyway Utd could replace Berba for the price we’d get for him,if he’s happy to stay the lad is worth is weight in gold and should have his contract extended
Berbatov should not go. He can still be an asset to our success. A great human being. He is 30 only and with his fitness can play for us for another 3-4 years.
Berbaforunited
That would be a depressing way to start out the new year….Berba back to Bayer? please no, NO.
Hmm…odd thing stated at the end of the article about 4 more days
Berba should stay. I’d also love him to end his career with Utd, I have heard this story a few days ago about Leverkusen but not really sure what to make of it.
I hope and think that he will stay. Sir Alex has mentioned him in respect of having 4 top strikers so I’m pretty sure he’d like to keep him. So I guess it depends on what Berba wants to do.
No smileys in that post by MG – another imposter?
There is no chance of Berbatov leaving in January – you can take that to the bank!
Booch – I agree that he will stay, disagree that he will go!
CM Punk – slow your roll, young’un.
I’d be really gutted if he left!
I also thought that MG wouldn’t moan at Scott for putting up a thread.
Captain Park
Cheers pal, hope all is well buddy….. Will be equally as gutted but like Fred said I do not see it happening
I also thought that MG wouldn’t moan at Scott for putting up a thread.
So Berbatov is like what? Twenty years younger than Giggsy? No need to rush at all. Would love it if he stayed.
Not a chance he’s going. Berbatov pisses all over most of the strikers in the league and there can’t be any complaints about his recent performances. I fully expect him to be a regular starter in the Europa League (yes it sucks but we might as well win it, it’s a pretty trophy) and he’ll get League games too.
The youngsters can learn a lot from berba. His love for united, his passion for the game,his technique all are great. Likes of macheda should learn from him. It would do Kiko a world of good.
“Twenty years younger than Giggsy?” Hahaha!
It’s me!
Considering how the other post went was the only reason I commented the way I did
Not a dig at Scott at all I hope he’d understand the point I was trying to make
I fear that this post will be crawling with trolls now that the cat is out of the bag
I’d rather macheda and diouf leave UTD !!!!!! they are not good enough for UTD !!!
Sorry
I see whats happened
I went from chrome to Safari where its still MG
I shall rectify
Don’t go Berba! please! Hope he thunks it over, before deciding.
LUHG- Macheda should not be sold. He is a talented kid. patience is required with that kid. he could do wonders with this club.
LUHG
Not sure still about Diouf but have to disagree about Macheda. With a run in the team who knows, the problem will be if he gets it. I haven’t seen a great deal of Diouf but what i have seen has been rather average.
Hey everyone!
I’ve been reading the blog for a couple of years so I know the regulars around here, but never got to posting. However, I would like to gift a ticket to a friend of mine from Manchester for a match at Old Trafford (ASAP). I cannot ask him as I want it to be a surprise, but I would like to buy the ticket and it shouldn’t be more expensive than $100. Anyone has an idea of where I could get one at a reasonable price? I know many websites sell them but I guess they’re heavily inflated.
Thank you very much! We’ll never die
voice of voiceless
Whilst primarily this is a football blog and if as you say you have been reading it for all those years you will notice that till these current days some fantastic debates, articles and links still take place. However to me its much more than just a football blog, its a United supporters community. A place for all proper REDS to come together and share anything about themselves, their lives and different experiences. I have made some excellent friends on here, some that I now know on a personal basis.
What you refer to as ‘nonsense’ to most is known as fun. Try it some time and join in the banter, moaning about it will not get you anywhere.
LUHG
Only Macheda and Diouf? Or are there others that you’d also like to see gone?
Any others in the Squad or Reserves that are not good enough. Or is it just them two?
I guess you watch the Reserves a lot, or you wouldn’t be able to make that call.
Who else do we have, or is this all leading to a claim that there’s no money for new players?
CedarsDevil- Its not called moaning. There has been great debates I agree. Cedars which fun you are talking about, The fun that is made of others who have some different view.
I only said that 2012 and 2013 guys were frustrating everyone. Is that moaning to you.
Talk about football everyone will join but when you make fun of others and abuse others without any reason only few will join.
smartalex
No chance LUHG actually watches the reserve league because Diouf has scored many goals in the reserves. I absolutely agree with you, they deserve a chance and who better than Utd’s staff to nurture them.
Bebe is the future……..
……….a bleak future
voice of voiceless is sachu.
He chose a name from an ancient RoM thread where the guy only posted twice. He arrived the day after sachu skulked away. he has the same complaints as sachu. He doesn’t like the same people that sachu doesn’t like. Wierd for someone who’s not posted for several years yet now he’s here behaving exactly like sachu, even with the additional username/identity theft that is his trademark.
I identified voice as sachu the very first time he posted here (again!)
To test it I said to ‘voice’ “I recognise your accent where are you from?” which upset him a lot!
Twit.
He hates me! Boo fucking hoo.
Am not sure whether berba will leave or not( though I don’t think he will), but it won’t be in January. United will of course be offering him another contract with like 3 or maximum 4 extra years and after that his salary will become a bit less and finally a few years later he will retire. But if he ever wanted to leave, leverkusen will be ready to offer him a contract at any time!
murty- What has Bebe got to do. He is injured and will be back in 2 months time. He is just 21 and you say he has bleak future.
Hard to tell. Truth be told, starting next week he’s free to exercise his right of negotiating his transfer move for the summer of 2012. I’d like to think that Berbatov will wait until the club clarifies what they intend to do with him before he agrees with other clubs, but it could get awfully messy. If we intend to extend his contract for another year, I don’t know what we are waiting for…
voice of voiceless
No my friend, you complained about the blog in general and specifically about the nonsense that takes place as you called it, or in other words non football chats.
I will leave it at that as I have no beef with you, personally I love this place to bits, I love the regulars and all proper newbies. If the place annoys you then you should take wayne’s advice from the other thread and find a new blog….
Trolls, wums and rival fans that spout shit about the club will always be abused and flushed down the drain
smartalex- So according to you whoever has different opinion is sachu.
Now I can understand why you are jobless. 
LMAO
jim – Exactly mate! Diouf has scored plenty for the Reserves. Where is LUHG forming his opinion? I think it might be in the car listening to dad and uncle Albert on the way to football practice. Actually the reason he calls them out is so that eventually he can say that the Glazers are too stingy to buy decent players.
Cedars – Nice post. I have a prune arriving later, sorry date. I will encourage her to sit on my knee, and we’ll talk about the first thing that pops up! Is that banter, or plain rude?
CedarsDevil pal, cheers, I’m very well, thank you!! I trust you’re well too, judging by all your regular posts
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As regards Berba, I certainly hope you’re right that he’s not leaving. All us Berba fans who really appreciate what he brings to the team will be mourning if he left.
voice of voiceless
Just out of curiosity why did you choose to have a dig at smartalex and ‘his friends’ as you said?
By the way, I am one of those friends
smartalex
Macheda made a great point when he tweeted that while playing against wigan he learned how to play on the wings, hence learning to play in two positions.
I’m fucking torn apart in that situation.
On the one hand I don’t want him to leave, cause he’s fucking class and a top-notch player.
But on the other I can’t see him sit on the bench the whole time. He deserves better.
And it seems that he doesn’t really click with Rooney up front. What makes this a major problem.
Well nailed Costas! You’re a Berbaloving friend!
DECEMBER 29, 2011 AT 16:33
voice of voiceless says:
rohan19- I am with you buddy. This is a football blog and not some circus. This has to end now. Now i can understand why scott doesnt give a damn about this blog. There is no football conversation.
Where are the likes of GHTT, RedManc, Alex Aig,spencer,suhayl. They were here to talk about football.
This is getting ugly as the year ends. Who knows the 2012 thing is SCOTT himself and he wants to close this blog.
So CedarsDevil you call this complain.
DECEMBER 29, 2011 AT 12:30
voice of voiceless says:
2012-2013 and all other Fuckers just sod off from here. Now frankly its getting irritating.
2012 guy We don’t give a damn who are you so fuck off. Hope you appear on 1st Jan.
Now the 2013 guy you are not funny. I know this 2013 guy is a rom regular but please stop it. Its not funny,
This blog has become like a circus. Fucking getting irritated. This is Man united’s blog Dammit and not your facebook
If I am not wrong didn’t everyone said 2012 thing was irritating. So when I said It becomes a complaint.
I don’t agree with you my friend.
Willierednut
Your post at 18.04 is completely off-topic, how dare you post such things on this blog. Haha..cheers pal.
Willie
Hahaha cheers pal…. Your prune/date joke at me did not go unnoticed from last night. Bloody loved it
40 hours away from my first beer baby, fuck ya.
Sorry for being off topic here….
NOT
I think Berbatov will get the standard United rolling contract for the aged. Every year it will be reconsidered, and probably extended. This gives him all the incentive and drive needed to keep at the top of the game in his autumn years.
Leaving United will be the start of his physical decline. Look at how fit and strong he looks now, ripped even. He knows that we have the conditions and staff to keep him fit and sharp. Leaving United comes with a rolling wheelchair, and it’s all down hill from here.
CedarsDevil- Read the last few posts in the previous blog you will understand yourself why I made that comment about your dear friends.
new thread fellas, something a lot more uplifting than Berba potentially leaving!!
I’m not sure what to wear to the party. Any ideas?
Keep it ON topic!
@willie
Heh, thanks. I think Zelh summed it up even better. There’s been a lot of talk about his age, but at 31 he should be playing more often and it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what he goes after. Sheringham wanted more football at 35, so it’s natural that Berba would want the same.
Of course, for all we know the club might extend his contract any day now. That would be a nice surprise.
voice of voiceless= Everyone According to genius smartalex
For one, you should not trust whatever Ivan Dobrinov has to say on the issue as he’s Mr Nobody in the whole Berba saga – just a retired ref that thinks he knows it all and can’t keep his mouth shut. The only representative Berba’s got is his agent – Emil Danchev, and I have to say I’ve been impressed by the man as he really does seem to have our 9′s best intentions in mind and has always been 100% behind him staying with us for as long as the CLUB intends, so not your everyday EPL Agent. Thing is I actually get hold of a lot more credible info on Berba here in Bulgaria, although coverage is anything but extensive after he snubbed the national team. All the 365s, teamtalks, mirrors and whatnot are spewing shite across the UK, compounded by some of the small time papers i used to read on the train there, it’s just an unbelievable media circus 24/7.
Ergo, Димитър Бербатов is going nowhere.
voice of voiceless= rom According to Genius smartalex
We can be relaxed about this.
Love Berbatov but there are many complex factors here.
First, there is no doubting his tallent. That said, United have options and prefer to play a different game. We are promoting youth ATM and who is to say what Danny or Mama could do if they got the games that our Mitko is getting now. Not saying they would, but it is a big “what if”.
Then there is the issue of a big pay day. All players see the green side of things and rightly so. I have always given Berbatov alot of credit for coming here to win stuff and not complain. If he needs more playing time or a big last payday, then that is his decision and we would be the last club to stand in his way given the first point about youth.
Greetings, friends, lets keep things cordial – or at least funny.
I hope Berba stays, but you never know. I think Fergie treats him very badly at times,almost to the point of humiliation, despite which the player keeps his chin up and retains his dignity throughout. I’ve said before, I knew as soon as I saw the Barca Champions League Final line up and bench, with no place for Berba, I knew the game was up. We had no chance, and I simply could not comprehend why Fergie played it that way. If he wants to get rid of him, to reduce the wage bill or for whatever reason, he diminished Berba’s market price by so consistently marginalising him in the second half of the season. The great Bulgarian brings something to the team that no-one else does, especially sophisticated ball-retention and patience, skills we don’t always need, but in some matches everything cries out for his craft and guile in midfield and attack. There is a myth that he doesn’t work hard for the team (Evra pointedly said how hard he does in fact work the other day) and is too ‘laid back’ and too ‘languid’, cliches that suggest people aren’t actually watching him at times. Take a look when United are defending a corner and see where he is. He may have a ‘lazy’ look at times, but he’s always on the move, restlessly taking up good positions and looking for openings. It’s very odd that Fergie spent over £30M to buy him, when he must have kinown how he plays, yet now he doesn’t deploy him to his strengths. Very odd.
Zelh
You pretty much explained it very well but still he can be put with Chico, which is better
voice of voiceless
No need to get all snide with me pal…. Not sure I like your dig in reference to ‘my dear friends’
Voice of Voiceless
Now you’re choking up the blog with posts that are non football matters and making it a Circus. Give it a rest.
Viva M G
Viva M G
He loves MUFC
Doesn’t want Berba to leave
Viva M G
I am a friend to smartalex too
Of course he is connected in high places
Genius? Me? I guess not, but thanks!
… or … are you possibly … a sarcastic cunt? Hmmm.
Too late now to go back to pretending to be a nice guy. Never mind, lucky dip time!
Which new name shall it be this time?
Cedars – You always take it in good heart.
You mentioning beer has got me heading to the fridge! Now, whats this about Notorious leaving if Beba goes on a bosman? Is he jesting? Lol.
Friend of Cedars as well
19
And part of the original ROM Holy Trinity
Fuck yeah to coin a phrase
Voice of the voiceless
Fuck me are you still wittering on??!! You complained earlier about People not talking about football and most of your posts on this thread are non football related?! Make your fucking mind up. Or how about just giving it a rest.
jim – Am I barred now?
Viva M G
Viva M G
He loves MUFC
Wears a United T
Viva M G
If Notorious leaves, I’ll bring him back. I know one of his friends here at ROM.
Or maybe I am that friend.
Voice of the voiceless
Less with the voice, more with the voiceless
There is also the issue of a return for United. If United could get 10m for him I bet it is done. But the current contract is essentially done and United will have made their money and shouldn’t be overly concerned. A return would be welcome, but is probably not as expensive as 2-4 more years of Berba on our books.
Then there is the issue of doing a good turn for loyal servants of the club. Not putting Berbatov in the ranks of the OSheas and Browns of this world, but we didn’t stand in their way when they thought they would like to try their luck. In the case of Bayer Leverkusen he gets a 2 yr contract with a club who he loves and they lov him. All I am saying is that United tend to do well for lads who have been fair with us. He might have to think about Leverkusen, PSG or Inter as well. After all, he will see alot of the bench unless we get some horrendous injuries up front.
All in all, I think we should be very pleased either way. If he stays, we get a tremendous talent with world wide appeal who surely is value on the bench. If he goes, we can give him a proud send off for a job well done (my view) and wish he and his family the very very best.
I think the club can’t really loose on this. I don’t think Berbatov can loose either. Big decision for the player but maybe not such a concern for us.
In my view, we can be relaxed about this.
2013 – Hows the weather over there in………..
Willie
It is you, bugger!
Is it Balaji?
I am not willie. Where I come from, the weather is a bit warmer and the economy is as bad as Anderson’s recent haircut.
Willie
1/3 of the Trinity strikes
Feel the force
Costas !!!
Willie
Cryptic clues yet again
He is he isn’t
2013
Nicaragua?
2/3 of the Trinity then
2013 – Are you the Devil from Hell?
I’m not ready!
Be gutted if he left because we don’t really have alot of options. Diouf is definately not good enough, Macheda has never struck me as being as good as others think he is (my opinion deal with it). Leaves us with rooney, hernandez and welbeck. I’m happy wi them 3 but do think we need that fourth, and Berba is quality against te weaker sides. If you look at majority of his goals, they’re either 3rd or 4th in a rout or against weaker teams. But he does score against these teams whe others don’t so is useful.
I’m glad to see Welbeck doing good, can’t remember since Sparky striker coming through the ranks. And a local lad makes it even better.
And good to see the bitching hasn’t gone away. ROM woldn’t be same without it ha. Been voted Best United Blog, consistently gets good number of comments on matchdays, lively conversations and still people complain ha. But i would be happy if 2012 would bore off!!
I threw a kebab hint earlier today. Only willie noticed it.
Anyway, it was just to poke fun at the 2012 WWE character. I’ll keep 2013 in thew closet for now.
Smartalex
The Devil from Greece….
Mikekelly12
John Travolta?
Mike, James, Willie, MG & smartalex
You’re all off topic here and its annoying and I feel like moaning about it. Need to find me a new blog where only football is discussed
2012 will count the cost as 2013?
Well if you are to believe news outlets around Europe in the past few months, the devil definitely resides in Greece.
Fuck me so its Costas……..
Willie is indeed a fucking genius
CedarsDevil
This is not the place to ramble on about people rambling on, this is the right room for a ramble.
Football blog is down the passage, out the window, into the rubbish skip, off to the dump.
Costas
You appeared to wind up a certain voice in the wind this morning. Proper lost his rag. 2012, is he a wrestler? Not up on my wrestling, left it with the Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks era.
Cedars
Sorry pal….erm that Fergie fella has done really well at Old Trafford… Does that satisfy the post criteria?
Costas – hahaha! 2013 was a great parody, man. Kudos.
smartalex – Cracked me up….
Mike – This Fergie fella lost the plot years ago, should have sacked him back in 90. And yes now you seem on topic. Bravo
I wish to complain, about people complaining, about people complaining. Is there possibly a specific forum on the internet specifically for people to complain? Unfortunately i was under the impression that the internet allowed people to air their views with one another, possibly to learn from people of a different culture who have a similar passion, ie football. But I now know you have to specifically go to the specific forum you specifically want to talk about.
Sorry if I haven’t been specific enough.
Costas – You had them all going there lol. Cedars thought it was me.
@Mike
Hi mate. Well we can’t please anyone can we?
Just trying to have fun on a period where there’s not a lot of football news. The 2012 guy isn’t a wrestler, but he just tries to introduce himself in this place like one. If you’ve heard of the Undertaker, that’s how he announces his comeback each time…
@Fred
Ha, thanks pal. I appreciate it.
Wait so 2012 and 2013 are costas?
Haha nice one
Nooooo, please Berba don’t leave. I know it may not be up to him, I hope United retain his services. He is a great player and we must use his strengths. I agree with Giles, it is so strange to see Fergie treat one of our top player like this. There must some sort of reason, which is not apparent to us from outside. The boss treated Veron, Djemba, Forlan etc… who were a lot worse than Berba better.
Berba is a great footballer with skills some players can only dream of, I sincerely hope he will get to showcase them at United and win things with us in this season and next. He deserves it.
Even if does leave us, I hope fans will recognise what he has done for us – he should never called a flop. Without him there would never have been 19, his hat trick against pool and so many late winners. People should not go on about the penalty miss against everton – these things happen, remember even the mighty scholes missed penalties.
Well done Costas! You could get a job as a ring announcer!
smartalex – I posted a link to one of my all time favorite United videos on the other thread as requested by you my dear friend
I think “Stay on Topic” is the new version of Rio’s “Stay on your feet”
STR should have Tshirts made to be sold in the store next….
Heywood is Red
I just pissed my self, well almost literally as my kidneys are still on the mend….. Cracking post
@willie
I blame you and your other identity (which shall not be named). You gave me the idea.
@Heywood is Red
I liked your specific complaining.
Mike – the 2012 “he will be here” shtick is a rip-off of a campaign that is currently running in WWE; mysterious, cryptic videos have been playing to herald the arrival of a new wrestler (or more likely the return of an old one.) This is where RoM’s “2012″ guy got his gimmick.
Therefore, we can surmise that the person who has been posting cryptic messages is someone who watches WWE wrestling, so that instantly thows up a small number of suspects. Costas, Cyril, myself, wayne and voice of voiceless are the only wrestling-watchers on here that I know of – and I promise you it’s not me.
I have my suspicions, but I don’t want to spoil the person’s fun. His arrival is nearly upon us anyway…
united.george
Greeting my fellow son of the cedars
Off topic, my ass! Banter and funnies! And United threw in as well. Ya canna beat it!
It’s complicated:
If TheWayneBoy, Chicharito, and DannyTheLad could be injury-free;
If AshleyYoung can be consistently as good as he was in August;
If LittleMikey could get fit and stay fit:
If KikoTheKid was more than a flash-in-the-pan;
If Ravel Morrison/Will Keane/Josh King or even MameBiramDiouf were good enough – NOW;
then you get one answer.
BUT it’s a big gamble to rely on any one of those possibilities. Relying on all of those possibilities seems like a big gamble when Dimmy provides quality depth.
On the other hand, Dimmy is now fourth-choice – four goals in the past two games notwithstanding ! But what’s his market-value ? No one knows what Leverkusen or PSG would pay to get him. Does he have six months or six-months-plus-one-year left on his UTD contract ?
That’s an awful-lot of intangibles on both sides of the equation. AND one can also add another variable into the equation because UTD don’t have the CL trophy to chase and Dimmy’s game might be valuable in that kind of one-off confrontation (he was mistakenly left out of last year’s team and his absence meant that SAF didn’t give himself as much of a PlanB as he could have had).
So, I don’t have an opinion on this matter because there’s just too much information that’s not available to weigh-up and consider. Also, I’d like to see him stay to prove me wrong about “square pegs/round holes” when he scores the EPL winner against ManShitty in May !
Thanks for the link Cedarsdevil! Sorry, I’m slowing down now! All the idiots wear me out.
I think you’ve linked that before. Brilliant!
Just to add: I don’t believe “2012″ is Costas, Cyril or Wayne.
Fred
Why don’t you think it’s costas? And why Wayne or Cyril?
Guys, guys! I know 1,000,001% that 2012 isnt STR! Don’t rise to him. It’s some self-proclaiming advertising scum. Ignore and he’ll go away. Keep responding and he’ll stay.
Talking of staying – Berba must. Such style and class could teach the youngsters a thing or two. I think his ranking has risen above Chicos from recent form, and at the very least if our injury problems start in the attacking players we’re stuffed wih him
smartalex – I have indeed and several times, personally its my all time favorite. It still brings a tear to my eye every time I watch it.
Lebomanc – Greeting fellow daughter of the cedars. 2013 is Costas, 2012 remains a mystery…
Way too many sons and daughters of the cedars here, we aim to take over…. Ya baby
@smartalex
Cheers, but I don’t have the voice for it. I am a lot better with sign language though, lol.
Berba is here to stay. We won’t go into the title run-in with only RooneyTheKid, TheDannyBoy and JavierThePea – it’s too risky. Whether or not he gets a new contract is anyone’s guess though. My gut feeling is that he will not.
‘without’ him
Thanks for the heads-up Warwick. We were pretty sure, but confirmation is good.
Whatever he’s advertising, if it’s not done with Scott’s blessing we must avoid it.
Lebomanc – from my deep research, those three just don’t fit the profile.
Sign language in football can get you a one match ban, just see incidental racist Suarez!
cedars – thanks for the videos on Edwards….good stuff to watch. Hope you are doing well!
Back on topic: I don’t like Berbatov’s latest haircut.
I think i know who king erikunt is. I just hope it isn’t him. If he’s having a pop at KE, then do the math. Think recently? Not parry, by the way. I don’t see parry taking another username. Ain’t his style lol.
WillieRedNut, i said it at 16:40 on the reactions thread, and expected your surprise.
Check it out …
united.george
I am doing great my friend, thanks for asking…. First beer in months on Saturday, oh and as a bonus that team United are playing so I might watch them! hahaha
smartalex – Missed that post mate. As i said though, hope I’m wrong.
WillieRedNut – I know you’ll be disappointed, so I also hope I’m wrong.
This whole multiple-name and Identity-theft phase is tiresome.
The fun ones are great, and the joke comes out quickly. It has been fun.
2013 is a good example.
But these twits that want to ruin the blog, or hate someone (eg me, sob sob) are too much.
Tiresome.
smartalex
Worry not, your ‘dear friends’ will always be here for you……
Bunch of sad twats indeed
smartalex – Did you check out this persons first post? The last paragraph is strange. He says, he has a beef with only you, then mentions Cedars. Contradicts himself. Something about taking pills. It is tiresome and boring.
Too much rambling in that post guys. Lost me after the first 2 sentences. Don’t know who has an agenda with who, but I always found it hillarious that somone would blame smartalex for going off topic all the time and then proceed to do the same by badmouthing smartalex. Anyway, we all obviousy come here to talk about the club, but that’s hard to do when matchday is 60 hours away and we are at a thread about the previous matche’s line up…
@Fred
I liked him with the longer hair myself, but for some reason he’s scored more goals with the buzz cut. Better be careful because he’s pretty close to JT’s lesbian haircut.
And that’s why I love Fred’s commentary… JavierThePea indeed, classic, just about choked on my Diet Coke…
hey everyone. that was not me abusing all and sundry…
my username was used by someone else.
there is no reason for me to have a problem with anyone. i rarely ever post.
and smartalex king eric cedars etc.. i did not do that. i have no beef whatsoever with either of you.
so please ignore that.
i haven’t posted for hours. my last post was about the perenially injured team. and since then this is the first time im logging in
WillieRedNut – the person we suspect used to take massive segments of articles and submit them as his own. He often did that.
The first comment (that you refer to at 20:01) is taken directly from
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7400022/Saving-Worst-Of-2011-Until-Last-Refs-
which I had already read. He then adds an intro and ending.
Add that to the username, his prose, and his targets, and a common theme emerges.
Sad, but likely true.
Do you remember capital S “Sachu” ? Same modus operandi.
@costas : you are one of the few sensible one’s remaining here..
really like your posts
rohan19 – Thanks for clearing that up mate! We thought it was odd!
It’s very frustrating, is it not? I’m sorry that you were also targeted.
well its odd actually. you’re a regular contributor.. you actually talk to people. i hardly ever post. if at all..
but yes it is very frustrating.
It is true to say that at times I foolishly let wum’s get under my skin.
It’s also true that I can have 4 or 5 of the fuckers leeched onto me excavating furiously while I’m chatting about Evra’s positional sense. Fuck man, I deserve a medal for staying calm (sometimes!)
rohan19 – You’re actually talking too mate! I know what you mean though!
sachu’s tactic the other day was to set two mild-mannered innocent posters against each other by impersonating both of them and starting an argument. He did this with a few people. We know you well enough to smell a rat, and by reading the threads you’ll let us know anyway.
yeah. you actually deserve a medal for fighting them off..
too many idiots here. or maybe one idiot with too many user names..
same thing happened some 6 months ago when billknob and captain k9 used o post,..
there was also used to be this guy NBI red onion who had various usernames
smartalex – I do remember pal. Also, the other sachu who posted on here through the summer. Mainly talked about transfer targets. Didn’t seem much wrong with him. So, that person posted an article on this blog, then added his own thoughts at the end? Weird.
by talking i meant you’re more active on this blog than me..
yeah i sure will.. i have never been bitchy with anyone. don’t think i will either..
@voice of the voiceless. : why the fuck am i mentioned/?? don’t remember that post one bit.
It’s getting to the point now, of who hasn’t been faked off. In the summer you had Redmeg and his mate, forget his name, who stole posters name. Then you had billknob. A scouser in disguise. He had a real woody for Giggs lol. Sad cunts.
WillieRedNut – when I chat to my old man about RoM and tell him about the wum’s, he thinks I must be a masochist! He’s right.
rohan19 – All good mate, we will survive!
Anyways, back to Berbaloving!
I hope he stays at United. His hattrick showed he’s still got ability to bang the goals in. He hasn’t played as regularly, as he would like. The form of pea and Welbeck has curtailed his appearances. It will come down to him, I suppose.
I see Berba keeping his place this weekend, scoring two and earning Rooney a penalty.
Come on United! Come on Dimi!
Berbagasm, best orgasm a man can have. Sorted
i sure hope berbatov plays..
i see us winning by atleast 4 goals.. ending the year on a high..
ddg rafael smalling rio evra
jones carrick
valencia rooney nani
berbatov
welbeck might play left wing.. nani needs rest. the lad’s been playing continuously..
its about time rafael plays.. thats if he hasn’t picked up an injury while sleeping in his bed
@CedarsDevil
Well spoke at the voice of the voiceless earlier, just got in from work to catch up with ROM and seems like i missed some excellent banter!! Well spoke regarding the debates we have at the moment, is it a coincidence this voiceless appears out of the BLUE after years of hiding?? A city fan in disguise?? lol
WillieRedNut.
Damn right it’s not my style,I wouldn’t know how to do it and if I am laying the tagies into any one I want to make sure there is no misunderstanding who it is so don’t worry your pretty little head about it.One thing is for sure it wouldn’t be I was in Dubia when. That I would use as an alias if I knew how, I wouldn’t give him the time of day Mr ulterior motive
This blog has become inception. Whats real, and what isn’t? Fake names can only lead you so far. The stench is hard to get rid of. Like a lingering fart, the smell will always follow you around. You can’t beat the blog! The blog is us! We’ll always find you out fake cunts.
parry – If i had a pretty little head, of course. Lovely face, but hard nugget.
mufcmyreligion
Not a blue pal in my opinion, just a freak! hahahaha
the first i saw of this story was in the local paper here in Germany. i couldnt quite believe it. The story was in the local Bergheim paper 3 days ago, sayin this transfer could well happen. It was a sydictaed article from Bild on a slow news day, the 26th Dec. Other stories in the paper were drunk people falling under trams in Cologne which wouldnt usually get any colum inches at all. I cant see berba going anywhere.
It will be fucking criminal if berba leaves. He is one aside from Giggs who is the most technically gifted players at United.
What’s this about kingericunt? Aint seen that. Is it on previous thread? Please post it on a newer one as phone takes ages to load that reactions thread. Parryheid wouldn’t do that. We have our disagreements but he aint like that. Whichever fucking gutless little prick it is get from behind your pc and I will meet you near the ground on Sat. I mean that. I aint some hardcase at all but I won’t back away from any cunt. What the fuck has this shit become seriously? Fucking idiots stealing I’d s and causing arguments. A fucking shambles.
WillieRedNut is right.
If you’ve alienated yourself with poor behaviour, changing your name yet behaving exactly the same is hardly likely to help. Your new username has the same dismal personality. Instead of just changing your username, change your attitude. Then you’ll get the camaraderie that you seek.
Here we go King Eric:
DECEMBER 29, 2011 AT 14:17 king erikunt says:
good article this. its actually about football.. not the needless rambling of some irritating Lebanese guy or some guy who’s got to take pills to keep himself alive.. or like the ramblings of smartyalex who keeps driving away fools and others included
and
… Im just here to infuriate smartalex… nothin else.. got no beef with anyone else.. who i am is anyone’s guess. im one of the many smartalex has abused..
this shit’s gotta stop
JR – thanks for the German perspective. The big man is going nowhere. He’ll be back in the team on Saturday and has a part to play in us winning number 20.
The username is a vicious dig at King Eric.
The first comment attacks CedarsDevil, smartalex (me) and Giles.
I wonder who it is? Pretty obvious.
Lebanese guy who takes pills? How the fuck did I miss that?
Fucking sick demented bastard
Not fucking leeds scum Moses surely?
smartalex
Please post me the link and specify the exact time of the cunt’s post.
I’m not gonna lie but I’m pretty damn sure berba is gonna start the next game, simply cause if he continues his scoring form clubs will start looking at him again.
Leverkusen don’t have the funds to compete with the like of PSG or Anzhi when it comes to a bidding war. These 2 clubs are picking up has beens to bring prestige to their club, and when enough glamour and of course money has been pumped up, better players heads will be turned, and they will soon turn into a major european force. We have already seen this with Man Shitty. First they start off with the likes of wayne bridge and santa cruz, then they get bigger players in like Jo and Adebayor, then Lescott and the turning point Carlos fucking Tevez. This basically attracts all the other elite players such as Silva and Balotelli and Yaya Toure.
What I’m trying to say is that Berba would serve as one of those players who would attract more young players to go to those clubs… I read a report today linking pato with PSG, this is what money does to the club: creates ambition and temptation for the best players. Berbatov will thus be an interesting prospect for PSG or Anzhi to look at, and if they offered anything in the region above 15 million for the 31 year old then there is no way we shouldnt take it.
Yes, berba has qualities very few players on this planet have, but practically he is getting a bit old, and is holding back the development of chicho and welbeck. Plus if we need a fourth choice striker we have the luxury of choosing between Owen, Diouf and Macheda, none of whom are good enough for a regular starting berth. Berba is certainly a starting kind of player though so moving on would do wonders for him.
Just my 2 cents.
CedarsDevil – certainly my good man!
14:17 (look at the end of a long comment that is actually a cut and paste of a referee’s report)
and 16:21
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/reactions-to-victory-over-wigan/#comment-436584
… also look at my comment at 16:40 identifying the perp.
CedarsDevil – The pill-popper referenced is not you. You are the “needless rambling of some irritating Lebanese guy”
The next part of his attack is aimed at Giles. This miscreant posted vile anti-semetic and racist comments previously, causing furore, and Giles had to step in and chastise him sharply.
This pain-in-the-ass holds grudges closer than he does his love for United.
Cedars
I missed that comment earlier aimed at you. I pulled him on his username I too think its Moses. Told you all not to be taken in by his I’m ending my life bullshit he’s a dirty sick fuck. If he posts again then totally blank him mate. Not your way tho I’m sure.
smartalex
Bloody hell, just read that….. Pity I was away, I would have smashed that sick demented fool
CedarsDevil – did you read my 16:40 comment on that thread?
smartalex
I did pal…..
smartalex & James
What can I say? The world is full of sick demented freaks….. Attacking me is one thing but having a sick pop at Giles is way out of order.
ON TOPIC
Seems the basis for this thread is now suspect. With the Leverkusen boss saying it is horsefeathers.
From ClickManchester
Bayer Leverkusen chief Wolfgang Holzhauser has angrily responded to talk of re-signing Manchester United striker Dimitar Berbatov.
Holzhauser has admitted his dismay at the speculation comments made earlier this week have sparked.
“This is pure speculation,” asserted Holzhauser to news agency DPA. “Also, we do not want to get involved as the Bulgarian is currently under contract with Manchester United.
“I view this [the speculation] with some displeasure,” Holzhauser continued. “The contact between Berbatov and I was only based on a friendly nature.”
Sick fuck. should report him to Scott.
They are cowardly thugs CedarsDevil. It’s very sad.
I could be wrong, but I’d guess that just a few of us get almost all the grief from trolls. What can you do? Live with it, i guess. But when it’s Giles, RoM or United being attacked, it’s not on.
apparently the cunt has used my username as well just after my post loling at Fred’s nickname for Chicharito… what a douchebag. STR could stop this shit easily with login based posting whether using wordpress authentication or other.
Only realizing now, this king erikunt referenced me too! I should read more posts.
Wow, how many logins does the cunt have?
What a sick, demented fuck, as Cedars rightly says.
JC
He’s a sick cunt who never got hugged as a child.
Reporting anyone is a waste of time. A few timed slaps would do the trick.
So some cunt could be winding me up with one user name and agreeing with me on another
If some fuckwit is stealing id’s and using multiple user names just to stir up shit,fucker needs mental help
When it comes to Berba to me it’s a no brainer,i want all of the Berba doubters to take a good look around and how many strikers would you swap for him and how much would they cost,would they also be prepared to become a squad player?
Berba is a top pro and person,they way Berba has handled the situation with no fuss is rare and it tells you all you need to know about him.He can be a usefull addition for another 4-5 yrs,with age the speed goes Berba doesn’t need that his skill set is unigue,some say his wages are too high but it gets back to the point of what it’ll cost to replace him.
Take Berba out of the attack and don’t replace him makes Utd thin,don’t renew and let him walk away on a free doesn’t make much sense either,the only scenario that would make any sense if a money club came in and vastly overpaid for him.
The Arse trying to sign Henry back? I say let’s continue the theme — Fergie, sign Becks back…
I can’t see Berba leaving. Atleast not in january. People say he is a flop. Howcome a guy who has scored 53 goals in three and a half season a flop. The entertainment he has given to the united fans are worth 30 millions. Look at the likes of shevchenko, Torres at chelsea, Carrol, robinho etc these are the players who are flop.
But if god forbid berbagod leaves this January we should demand atleast 15 millions. I would be very angry if we sell him for cheap.
Guys I don’t think voice of voiceless is a Bad guy so stop bullying him. I have chatted with him here and he sounds to me as a nice chap.
Cedars- I read his post again and I can’t see anything harmful. He himself was frustrated with the 2012 and 2013 thing so he just pointed out that. I can’t see anything wrong with that.
smartalex- Stop saying everyone as sachu. I know many had a fight with him but Vov is not sachu. Vov talked about football. Don’t put wrong allegation please.
I have myself chatted with vov and thats why I am saying there has been a big misunderstanding to all you guys.
if he goes then we’ll lose a quality player from the squad, and if I was SAF, I would have extended his contract and give him some more games, and instead sell Diouf or Macheda, who never really impressed to be honest. Remember when we had to get Larsson on loan to fix the attack, I don’t want something like this to happen again, Welbeck and Chicha are still very young and need to progress, while Berba can contribute his experience and quality to make United go further ahead, I would like to have someone like him to play in the Europa, yes I know many of you say this is a crap trophy, but yet it is another silverware to be added to our impressive collection, and with Berba available, we can rotate the squad and still win things
Ash
Don’t tell me what to do. You and ‘voiceless’ were close from the first comment he ever made.
Weird that! I wondered where you knew him from and how come yo didn’t introduce yourselves.
You’re trying to make trouble, and are siding with a poster that has only been here a few days and already is instructing and criticising everyone. He arrives here and attacks us and you now take his side and lie about us. You stop now. not another word on this topic from you. It looks like he’s posting under your name, or is your mate.
If you mention my name again other than to compliment me you will regret it. You’re not a RoM local, and until you are tread warily. You do NOT have the right to protect wums that are rude to RoM Reds.
Shut your fucking mouth! Not another word on this topic.
smartalex
Shut the fuck up You moron. compliment you? What have you done to receive any compliment. You are not God here. Don’t start Unnecessary fight.
You are best at one thing that is abusing others and starting fights.
FUCK OFF
Ash – I logged on to find that you were siding with a new poster that attacked us at RoM.
You were issuing us instructions and protecting someone you’ve spoken to briefly. Funny that you guys hit it off so well from his FIRST post, and now you’re defending him, against old regulars that defended RoM. You are with him, not with us, so go be with him.
Apologise and stop interfering, or fuck off.
Ash- thanks mate for supporting this wum(That is me according to some genius)
.
Just Ignore him. He thinks I am everyone.
The official United site says Berbatov is getting an contract extension which pleases me greatly.
Sir Alex says:
“We’ll be exercising [the option to renew Berbatov's contract]. I think it kicks in in March.”
parryheid and smartalex … that is indeed excellent news!