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a wins a win
fergie orchestrated it
Awesome game, so much entertainment. Just what was needed after the yawnfest of Besiktas game!
You gotta be fucking kidding me. 43 yes’ to 2 no’s and thats including mine!! The Barca – Real matches (3-3, 2-6) were better IMO, and thats just going back a span of 2 years!
Has to be the 5-0 in November 1994 for me!
I dunno the 3-2 win at maine rd in 94 after bein 2-0 down at half time takes some beatin!
Best for a neutral perhaps, not for a Utd fan.
10th Nov 1994 is one of the best.
@ 9jmac think Were talkin Manchester derbies only mate.
amazing game, my throat still hurts from all the chanting and screaming
Great for drama – But Nothing beats the 5-0 mauling of 1994.
Cantona loved to score past the bitters for fun!!!
Erm no! far too many mistakes for me. Foster was crap, Rio needs shooting for being a dick and Giggs needs to use his right foot. Fletcher was awesome.
Sparky has become a loser so fuck him, he will never replace SAF now!
Or was the 3-2 win at Maine rd in 93? Fuck knows but that was my best derby game
It’s the best one i have ever seen live. Oh and for every neutral whon is concerned about the added time, the should remember Webb’s antics in last year’s Liverpool-Arsenal 4-4 game when he would blow the whiste until Liverpool won it.
We gave $hitty two goals in this match. We should have won this by more than just 1 goal, we absolutely dominated in the second half.
But a win is a win, and it’s always sweeter to get the last minute winner when you think everything is over. Shay Given also got what he deserved after that celebration when City equalized on the 90th minute, lol!
Ps: I love the look on Gary’s face there in the background!
watch out behind ya sir alex
nevilles gonna get ya
I’ve just seen Owen’s goal again.
The camera goes to Fergie, behind Fergie you can see Gary Neville run up to the City racists and celebrate ala Liverpool. What a LEGEND.
@9jmac: Is el clasico not more of a rivalry than a derby though? The Bernabéu and the Camp Nou aren’t exactly just across town from one another.
This is by far the best derby because
Rooney scored a lovely early goal
7 goals scored were scored
Tevez hitting the post and not scoring
United not playing particularly well and still drawing at ht
City thinking they are all mighty only to get beaten by a late MO goal.
Hughes reaction after conceding in the last minute.
Their delusional fans thinking they are actually at the same level as united.
Owen coming off the bench to score
Giggs rolling back the years
Fletcher teaching Barry a lesson in the middle.
It was a FANTASTIC game. Which could of been won 5-1 if Foster and Rio would of done better.
Their bitterness just makes it sweeter.
I haven’t stopped laughing since that owen goal went it.
Hughes is crying like a spoilt brat and the rest of the man shitty team and their two bob fans are just as bad
tough shit guys, play to the whistle , thats why we are champions!
Giggs fabulous again. Two big home matches consecutively Arsenal and Man City, he has created 5 of the 6 goals scored. Pure genius. And Scholesy is playing well this season to. Always feel so much safer when one of them is in the starting line-up!
just adding a couple points:
fergies grin when shaking hughes hand
seeing anderson and fletcher work great together!
Just have a read of this match report. The only one I have seen of this kind. How bitter is this Matt Lawton cunt? Which game was he watching?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1214828/Manchester-United-4-Manchester-City-3-Michael-Owen-clinches-derby-classic-turf-war-settled-gasp-winner.html
well hello there chaps, I posted on this site last night and predicted one of the following;
a. rooney’s trailing leg to ‘win’ a penalty
b. city to finish with ten men, or
c. five minutes plus of stoppage time if man u aren’t winning
I missed the game as I had to rebuild my front door after it was kicked in by a child molester, did I come close?
It took me 7 hours to get to Old Trafford today ( a tire puncture, than an accident in M6). I arrived only for the second half. But what a half. This is the best half of any match that I have seen for a long, long time. Perhaps only 1999 Champions League win beats this.
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The bitters on Sky Sports News after the game were fucking hilarious.
They were spouting shit about how they should have won the game. This despite the fact that a) we gifted them two of the goals and b) they retreated entirely after each equaliser.
Us deserving to lose wasn’t the best bit. Our reactions supposedly showed that we’re scared of them. Silly twats. As if they weren’t they going mental after scoring in injury time.
They sound like fucking school children. “Yeah, but”.. but you lost. Fuck off back to Wastelands.
bebeto, bellamy’s waiting for you, he prefers buttered
for his highness king eric
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Manchester-City-may-have-lost-but-their-performance-was-proof-that-they-are-closing-in-on-the-champions-By-Oliver-Holt-article166393.html
Holy shit, an Oliver Holt article. About as conclusive after the rapist forgets to wear a condom.
Nah, just kidding. Fuck you.
nighty night
2 managerial decisions decided this match: 1 Hughes left SWP on the pitch despite his dreadful defending which ultimately lead to the Owen goal.
2- Fergie subbing in a somewhat useless Carrick to add the time that lead to Owen’s goal
With the rise of city or the city cash funded title push this derby for me was the best that i can remember watching.
For me this city team is the strongest we have played against. Previously i knew these games would be tough because they would be up for it!.. Now they have the players they have i still dont think they are better than us but there is not much in it! They have quality players, but we have better.
I enjoyed this match today nearly as much as the time we whooped arsenals ass!
Remember the keane Viera tunnel incident!…. Then the spanking they got!
Awsome!
Awsome!
This is a close second!
Oh michael owen….. well done lad!
In the beginning I would have preferred a 6-0 blowout, which in fairness we deserved; however seeing the reaction of City team and supporters, makes me SO happy that we won the way they did. It was without a doubt the best way to crush their dreams (for proof, see judge).
And my favourite part is everyone talking about the extra time! If I’m not mistaken, aren’t City allowed to play that time as well? Or do City fans just assume that United will score? Because if that’s the case they were expecting to lose anyway, so what’s the problem? Fucking Eh!
Best in my lifetime!!!
7 different changes of emotions, made for a cracking game. Fuckin Rio, what was he thinkin?
Just like to say that everything was said about city complaining about the Adebayor song being sung prior to the match
The Tevez/Munichs song was in Full voice from not a minority but the whole away section. Their bitterness and dillusion ways are getting worse, there fans came outa there actually thinking they were the better team
What bugged me was listening to the radio after the match (btw thanks to whoever posted up the link to the stream when it was on, if I knew your name I’d name my next kid after you) and the Radio 5 bods stoking the fire about the injury time. They kept referring to it over and over, and then went and explained why it was fair on 606 and complained people were obsessing about it. I mean is it any wonder these stupid myths get started when the media are so idiotic that they’ll spout shit that undermines the credibility of the sport even when they’re denying that there was any wrongdoing within ten minutes? Did it not occur to them that if the injury time was accurate, which it was, then they should just leave it alone? Why get on the ref’s back when he’s doing the right thing. Do they not think they get enough stick? If the City fans want something to complain about maybe they should look closer to home, maybe if Bellamy had got on with it instead of being a timewasting ballbag the ref wouldn’t have slapped the extra minute on.
Also the journalists banging on about City being anything other than a bucket of shit with a winning lottery ticket stuck to the side are getting right up my nose. They were shit against Arsenal and they won. They were worse than shit against United, they were fucking non-existent for almost half of the match and they could have been annihilated but they still lost. That is not a team taking the world by storm, that is a team that has been riding its luck harder than a Grand National winner and between serious discipline issues and an inability to defend is going to do a Hull City any day now.
The elephant in the room for City is that if Berbatov moved his head an inch or so towards a better spot on any one of his three headed chances they all go in. Meanwhile without two stupendous errors and one shot that Bellamy will never, ever, be able to repeat City are nowhere. United made two of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen United players make, both in one game, again an event that is rarer than seeing a fish not only with tits, but actually shopping for a bra. That game was close all right, it was close to being about six nil. United had what, seventy nine percent of the possession in the second half and about a dozen corners to one or something. Those aren’t the stats of a close match, they are the stats of a crazy match in which one side had almost total domination.
Whats all that rubbish about EPL being 2nd to La Liga? That was one of the most entertaining games I’ve ever seen! Not only that, but there were thrilling games played all over England over the weekend. EPL consistantly provides high-paced, exciting football on every level.
best my arse – 2 minutes before the final whistle from utds point of view it would have been one of the worst ………….the performance in the 1st half after we conceded the goal was one of the worst i have ever seen…..this shud not be forgotten……park was worse than useless, anderson was dire and berbatov needed an almighty kick up the arse and still does…….ferdinand was poor and foster was a joke – what about bellamys 2nd? shocking goalkeeping…….i have to question the guys temprement – playing in front of 70 odd thousand is very different from a no pressure game at watford………….was in entertaining? of course it was, brilliant 2nd half but like ferguson said himself i would have much rather taken a 6-0 based on our complete dominance than having to stumble over the finish line…………..also, no way there was 6 mins injury time – 3 mins max – i dont recall either trainer being on the pitch in the 2nd half………..
Indeed the best derby every seen in my whole life. One moment you’re celebrating, another moment you feel down (although they just manage to get it leveled). Man United dominated the game but it was very disappointing that they made a big time mistakes at the back which gave them 2 free goals.
Owen scored the most important goal and it was very emotional. Me and my bro exploded, celebrating the winning, and it’s bloody midnight here and we’re too noisy but who cares? Celebrate when the victory is still fresh!
as far as derby is concerned yeah the best derby till now.
the best in terms of entertainment. but our players made so many mistakes that led to the goals. i prefer a 6-0 win. so this is not the best derby to me.
well said, was the best derby if u are watching it from an emotional viewpoint ………..if watched from a footballing perspective some of the defending and passing was shocking at times………give me a flawless 6-0 performance over ystrdys spectacle every time – and ferguson would say the same……..
The best derby out of the games agains Shity ? I didn’t watch many but the quality of the game wasn’t perfect, that’s for sure. You would say that derby is a derby, but too many mistakes for me.
Because of our two cockups everyone thinks this was close game – it wasn’t – so once again u get the headlines United are on the decline etc etc..
hilarious!
http://www.tribalfootball.com/man-utds-evra-difficult-see-tevez-booed-330541
and some stupid comments after it.
but it was difficult, for me also. i was watching the game far from Old Trafford but it was difficult. Bring it on, Fabio!
Good morning everyone
Tony starks.
Crap mate.we had a bad day defensively and made ome shocking errors.but it is trhe ability to bounce back after conceeding in the 90th minute that makes us champions.Chelsea are looking good but at some stage they are going to wobble too.we have to take advantage of that.
he probably made that statement in the heat of the moment…..Up until last night I was calling this the greatest match I had ever seen !!!!!!
If I see any idiot saying foster is good enough I will smack him
he’s a finished article – Everton material at best – fucking blunder prone – he made a big blunder in EVERY match so far—(bar one i think )…He can’t deal with crosses , he’s a blunder prone and fails to deal with the near post shots –
btw – how much longer does it have to pass before fergie realising that this with berba doesn’t work – playing owen-rooney, sell berba, buy some solid striker who won’t have problems being the 3rd choice…30 million for a player “who keeps the ball well ” – fuck it !
carlos is 3 times player he is – at least he proved that yesterday – workrate won’t get you anywhere -phee
CROoney
Berba had a good game yesterday and if not for given would have scored a few.Berba has played well against Wigan and Spurs away from home
As for tevez please dont even mention that cunt.showed his colours with that miss yesterday
agree to some extent on foster.he has been making too many mistakes of late and that too in the crucial games.we need VDS and also another young keeper who is good.
We certainly deserved a 6-0 win. we had twice as many shots on target and twice as many shots overall. we gifted them the goals because of stupid mistakes made from our players. we never gave up, kept going at them until we got the winner. who else has a mentality like utd’s. these deluded shitty fans need to get this into their idiotic fucking head. they ain’t gloating anymore now are they, pricks.
I can’t take anyone seriously who
a) says we should sell Berbatov
b) thinks Tevez is a better player than him
….that’s just crazy shit talk, sorry
Berba was one of our best players yesterday, he got into all of the right positions and made all of the right moves, but Given was incredible. It reminded me of the first game in the semi final against Arsenal last May, when Almunia was MOTM. Berbatov could have easily had a hat trick yesterday.
As for Foster, it’s a shame because he is clearly a talented goalie but he doubts himself too much. He lacks that commanding presence- he hesitates sometimes as well, and doesn’t inspire confidence in his defenders. I’m not sure how I feel about him yet.
Did anyone see Evra’s interview with MUTV after the game yesterday?? I loveeee him!!!
If Berba was a bit more accurate with his headers it wouldve been a White wash but he was plain unlucky. Got into the right positions but constantly was marked heavily, leaving space for Rooney. Then when they double up on Rooney it leaves space in the midfield for Fletch, Ando and Giggsy to spread the play.
This United team is quality.
And if all is going tits up, we bring on Owen to score. Guarentee that Micky Owen will score against Wolves.
berba was frustrating yesterday, but on another day he’d of got hat trick. Both his clear headed chances in second half were straight at given. Bet any money he scores in next game he plays, he looked disappointed with himself after being taken off but were nice to see fergie give him pat on back after being subbed.
aig – Tevez showed his colours ????
Berba was one of the best players ???
yeah – that’s why he was subbed !
The only people who rate Berba over Tevez (football wise ) are :
a ) blind united supporters
b)ignorants
c) stupid
I can’t believe all the blindess of United fans – i got 10 messages in “where is Berbagod ” style after the first half
fucking piss poor – how much longer we need to put up with this ? on one occasion anderson gave him the superb long ball to lash onto and fucking heavy micah richards just wnet through him to collect the ball although berba had been 2 meters ahead of him at the start of the sprint – fucking useless !
people outside UK can’t believe all the hype about him -he plays like a veteran who had won everything and now’s there only to help the team a little bit – fucking disgrace – he can’t score from the 2 yards out and yet we were taking the piss of tevez’ finishing ?!
berbatov gives us the new dimension ? – yeah that’s true -a dimesnion of how to play with 10 mean although we’re equal in numbers
*10 men
CRooney
Berba did very well to get into those positions.It was obvious Rooney wont be removed so it had to be Berba as SAF did not want to be overadventorous.
Before calling others names please look at whatyou are reading.tevez just ran around like a headless cunt and had it been VDS he would not have got the chance to set up barry for that goal. he missed an absolute sitter evben my 3 year old cousin would have scored it.
we have seen what happens when owen and rooney play together at Burnley so please consider neverything before you make a comment and just because owen has scored one crucial goal dont go over the moon.
yeah maybe youu are right tevez 5 league goals.bertba 9 league goals and 8 assists last season and for your kind info the argie cunt played more games than both Rooney and Berba.
CROoney – if not for outstanding goalkeeping from Shay Given, Berbatov would have scored two goals yesterday.
CRooney
go on.Who should we sign then ?? if you understand football you will know Berba is not the most prolific finisher and thats why he plays behind rooney.he is the only lad in the team who has a good height.his ball holding ability is 10000 times better than the Argie cunt. Just wait as the season goes on and you will get your answer as to who is better.
Though I really do appreciate you calling me ignorant and stupid, I’m going to disagree.
First of all- it’s not always a bad player who is substituted, ex. Rooney being taken off at Wigan. I think it was obvious he had reached a stalemate with Given, and we needed knew ideas.
Obviously, a player/team’s quality is not judged entirely on the number of goals they scored, but also on the number of chances they create. If you watched the game, you will have noticed Berbatov created a lot.
As for Tevez- I think he’s best (and probably only) real talent is his ability to harangue and harrass defence and goalies. He’s hella hard to mark, and shows real persistance. However he is simply not a goal converter/has pretty poor finishing, which is indicated by his measly 5 goals last year. That’s not to say he is a bad player, but he’s not a prolific goal scorer and I certainly don’t think he’s worth the money City paid for him. I think Berbatov is a much better player, because of his link up play, as well as his goal scoring.
Just my two cents.
Also just because I disagree with you about a sport, I don’t think it makes me ignorant or stupid. It would be nice to conduct ourselves with a little maturity and class.
the ando substitution did it for us in my opinion..got 30 secs out of it!!! superb match!! fuckin incredible!! wind-pipes gone for a toss!! but who the fuck cares!! GIGGSYYYY you awesome awesome man!!!!
@jessie
well said.the last sentence makes a lot of sense.
I just hate it when United fans start calling each other names.we can present a contradictory view in a more polite manner.
aig alex is god – i don’t fucking care for his ball holding ability – it looks as if he was holding his balls for the netire first half – at the beginning of the last season i was told ” wait as the season goes on and you’ll see 2 and then what happened – at the beginning of this season people say ” wait and see ” well i’m still waiting – how much longer ‘
shall i give him the netire season ? i can but i don’t think fergie will
-alsoe we all saw what rooney and owen can do for england – and once again – i am not “CRooney” , but CROoney . it implies where i’m from – calling me CRooney can imply that i’m a fan of CR7 ( 9 )
Scott the red – he shouldn’t have started the 2nd half in the first place
Jessie – i was joking about ignorant and stupid part but please – pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaase tell me how many chances is that “a lot” that he apparently created – he was the one missing them not creating !
the only thing what makes people abuse tevez is coz he went to city – and the only things berba has over tevez is his tehnique
ffs tevez is a midget but offers more areal threat than berbatov -
link up play ? ball holding ? what a bullshit !
again – i was joking and exaggerating with that idiot comments – but ignorant,,,hmmm i w0n’t be that arrogant but i can say that whoever thinks berba’s better than tevez only because of his tehnique doesn’t know much about football… no offense – i think that is pretty polite
i just want you to bare with me for a second -if tehnique is everything that’s required and rated in football then quaresma would be considered better than rooney
all that ball holding stuff etc is just focusing on his irrelelvant advantages to make him look good
@CROoney
I personally dont think Berbas first season was bad.okay he scored only 14 goals and only 10 assists.If that waqs tevez everyone would have gone ga ga.because we paid 30 million everyone expects berba to score 45 goals and 100 assistsevery season.owen and rooney were on fire for England in 2004.A lot has changed since then.
Please dont defend tevez so much.he is no saint and should be ashamed of the way he conducted himself towards the end of last year.The only thing he can do is run around like a fucking cunt.I would rather have someone with greater technique because i know i have rooney who will do the job of running all over better than what tevez did.
also apologies for getting your name wrong.It was unintentional
@CROoney
when you play a 4-4-2 you need to have two strikers who are contrasting in styles.that is why berba is preferred to partner rooney.rooney can do all the running while Berba can do all the creating.Thats what the plan is and it worked brilliantly against Spurs and Wigan but rooney faded badly after the first 15 minutes yesterday.
Guys, didn’t I tell you in my previous comments that Foster is crap? Why the hell SAF does not give a chance to Kuszczak… how can we tell which one is better? Foster is making mistakes and is still starting every game.. he just just luck that those mistakes don’t cost UTD 3 points… but against Chelsea or Liverpool it may be different.
I have no complains with Berbatov and i find it weird with fans claiming they are united fans and keep picking fault and stuffs with Berbatov. I bet you are maybe a kid with no knowledge of what football is. Grow up.
alex is god – no problem there
i understand all you’re saying about 4-4-2 but the thing is that I really him don’t rate him to be United standard
and if anyone thinks that 9 goals and 9 assists is what it take to be branded as 31 million material then how to describe that but ignorance
so far he’s shown very little
also sorry for crappy posts with bad spelling and typos and all – it’s just that i don’t bother reading what i wrote
CROoney
ok.lets wait and see.i still think he has something to offer united.as we all know this is the big season for him and its only just started so lets be a little patient.Hopefully he will start firing soon.owen is a natural finisher but given his age and fitness worries i think he wont be starting to many games and i want him to be fit for the 2nd half of the season when games come thick and fast so that we can rotate our squad.
Cheers!!!
As long as we can debate things amongst ourselves in a sensible and polite manner there is no harm in giving an opinion. I think we should be careful in making the “anybody who doesn’t agree with what I have just said must be blind, ignorant and stupid…and a fucking cunt” type of statement. I know I get the urge myself sometimes but we must remember that it can cause offense and distress.
Regarding Berbatov, I have not made a single comment on the guy yet, and that is because I have been hoping that the next game is the one where his talent will explode and take the game by the scruff. It hasn’t happened yet. I am still waiting. When/if it does happen I know I will write a comment that will be emmotional and full of “see, I knew it” type of comments. That is part of being a fan I suppose.
We all are desperate for the Berbatov thing to come good so we can put the fingers up to all our critics, but if I am absolutely honest with myself then he just has not done anything yet. If a player like Forlan – who scored some very important goals for us when he was on the field of play – can’t make it here then are we being far too kind to Berbatov?
He wasn’t one of our better players yesterday. Rooney and Giggs were far better (again). Anderson, despite the usual misplaced passes, had far more purpose about his work, Fletcher was brilliant again, Evre and Vidic had good games and Valencia made a difference when he came on. Berbatov was somewhere amongst it all, occasionaly getting the ball, getting the odd free kick and missing a couple of good chances. The headers were straight at Given. They were fairly powerful headers but Given just had to put his hands up to save. He wasn’t forced to move at all.
Berbatovs performance was typical of his overall contribution since he arrived. It wasn’t what you would call bad, but it didn’t give nearly enough. It didn’t have any decisiveness about it, no urgency or real purpose and when it mattered he didn’t have the confidence to try and angle his headers. He went for directness and power instead.
He needs more time, I still have this feeling that he is on the edge of doing something special, but we could have said that about a lot of players that have left us. Rossi, Forlan and Veron were all in this catagory but time eventually ran out for them.
aig – yeah i agree but i don’t see the prospect in 29 year old striker playing like aveteran that had won everything in his career ( berbatov)
i know i’m harsh on him and i’m exaggerating but i can say without a doubt that he’s nothing special and certainly not 31 mill material – the same sum kept tevez out – and he’s worth aroung 25…while berabtov is 15 AT best – cheers
CRooney
i guess the fee we paid was no doubt atleast 10 million too much but i guess that was our own fault.the way we went about it was wrong and in the end we had to pay whatever Spurs told us.So the club is responsible for it too. Anyways thats the past.Lets hope he can do well.This will just add more pressure on him
The Red C
great post – and i agree mostly…
but mark my words – when Berbatov , in the next match or so bags a brace or does a West Ham trick everyone will be singing praises as if they all want to justify the pruchase sooner rather than later… no matter if he goes to become crap in the next 5-7 matches from that moment, it will buy him some time…but the thing is – he will never be consistant enough to be branded as class signing—never – he just doesn’t have it in him
aig – it won’t add any pressure mate coz he doesn’t read our crap
fuck city. SCUM
berbatov is unreal so shhhhhhhh, shay given is irelands finest export should be a united player he’s been the best prem keeper iv seen, ever wonder why newcastle stayed up with him and went straight down without him!! berba is quality he will blow you away someday soon and these comments will haunt you….. boooooooo