Last season, Wayne Rooney swore during the celebration of one of his goals against West Ham and was banned.
Rooney broke Law 12 and was charged with using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language”. Despite players directing this language at referees and opponents on a weekly basis and receiving no punishment, the FA banned Rooney for two games. They claimed that because his language had been directed at a camera he deserved a ban, despite the law making no mention or reference to this. According to the FA, abusing a referee is acceptable but saying “fucking” on camera is worthy of a ban.
Regardless, on Friday night, Rooney lost his temper and took a swipe at his opponent in England’s game against Montenegro. He managed some control, pulling back before making any real contact, and the player accepted his hand straight away. However, the referee was left with little option but to send him off.
Rooney now stands to miss England games in next summer’s Euro 2012 and the FA are all too aware of how important he is to the team. They have put in an appeal to UEFA in the hope he will receive just a one match ban.
“We have been working very hard behind the scenes to ensure that we are prepared to support Wayne in any way we can,” said the FA’s director of communications, Adrian Bevington. “If it does lead to an appeal process, or any supplementary evidence we can submit to support him, we are not disputing that he was sent off for a red-card offence, but it is very important to us as an organisation that we try and look after all our players. And I would like to say, on the record, that Wayne conducted himself incredibly well after the game. He was very apologetic and I felt he handled it very maturely. We will do all that we can to try and ensure that Wayne is available to us as soon as possible in the finals.”
This statement is particularly interesting when you consider that Rooney “conducted himself incredibly well” after the West Ham game too and was “very apologetic” then as well. He even released a statement saying how sorry he was. The FA didn’t take that in to consideration in his appeal though and banned him for two games, meaning he missed out on our crucial FA Cup semi-final against City.
Whilst of course I want the best for Rooney in this situation, I won’t lose any sleep if the FA find England without their best player for two or three games.
“The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world,” said Ferguson this summer. “Maybe they will get some joy from it and realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like shit.”
What goes around comes around.
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I wish all our players just retired from international football. Maybe I am saying this because Norway is a shitty team, but none the less do I feel that the World cup no longer have the same flair as it had during the 80s and 90s, perhaps this is because of the money aspect in todays football?
They’ll throw the book at Rooney they always do and to be fair he deserves it. He is one of the best players on the planet and he can’t behave like that, swearing, kicking its all the same to me, disobedience.
Well good gay scene in Malta!
Do we really care about the FA and its double standards ?
I bet they wish the punishment could be served at Anfeild and the derby!
I hope they ban him for 3 games and England don’t get past the group stages.
Playing for England is a waste of time. He will never win anything with them.
The last trophy the national team won? Le Tournoi!
The coverage of this whole thing has been ridiculous. After the match, Redknapp jr was banging on about how England’s qualification had been ‘overshadowed’ by Rooney’s red. I can guarantee that if it had been any other of the 11 England players on the pitch who’d done the same thing, it wouldn’t qualify as ‘overshadowing’ anything. Rooney’s ‘discipline problem’ is such a convenient narrative for the media, meaning they always have a story, whether Rooney does well, does badly, or does average and loses his temper.
Sky even went as far as looking at all the red cards in his career, which was interesting.
One for Everton – rash challenge
Two for United:
Booked for challenge then booked again for sarcastic applause in Europe – soft red
Second booking for throwing ball back to where a freekick was to be taken from against Fulham – soft red
Two for England:
Stamping on Carvalho’s nads (obvious red but he’d already been fouled by Carvalho in the build-up)
The other night (obvious red)
So, his two England reds clearly stem from the frustation of labouring away in the international setup.
His two United reds were both soft.
It’s not like he’s got some terrible record, is it?
I would rather kick all them two faced cunts at the FA than swear at them…..
The past is the past Rom.methinks this is D juncture @ which we finally bury d hatchet with d EFF.A..without wishing to sound quixotic,we are better served with those swots on our side than against us.saf should apply exquisite gamesmanship and extend d olive branch pronto.needs must and frm all indications,wazza is head over heels in luv with ingurlund.ain’t no shame in that.or whaddyall reckon?todays my day off so I guess that’s why I’m first on d wall.
Karma is a bitch isn’t it?
Ooops!thought I was first off tho.STR sure done put up a helluva hot topic!
Is that true about United producing the most England players? I’m not doubting it – just surprised given the London-bias of many London managers (throughout eras of Liverpool and Manchester United dominance, the England teams were filled with Spurs players)
Sorry I meant ‘London-bias of many England managers’
I’ve sent the following inquiry to the FA:
“Dear FA,
The recent events with Wayne Rooney have led me to question your integrity. Wayne Rooney was banned last season for swearing at a camera, while playing for Manchester United. He issued a full apology, even released a statement, and then got banned for two games, including the FA cup semi-final.
Last week, he kicked out at an opponent while playing for England. Yet this time, the FA stands fully behind him, issue an apology on his behalf, and hope he gets less than a two-game ban, so that he can play for England during the Euros.
So is swearing worse than kicking? Or do you pledge your support to Rooney only when he plays for England and not Manchester United? Can you please explain, because I don’t seem to understand your standards.
Thank you.”
Feel free to copy and send to the FA as well.
What Fucking What ! Ban him for 5 games just for appealing !
Rooney is disgusting england international, he kicks out and underperforms every tournament, drop the guy, he obviously is not good enough for international football, always seems to have problems.
1-broken foot
2- Metatarsal injury
3- Red Card vs Portugal
4- Played 1 game under McClaren and barely scored in the euro 08 qualifiers.
5- Played like Poo in the world cup
6- Gets sent off against poor opposition.
Ban the fool for 5 games to send out a message to the likes fo De Jong !
Real Madrid table 30 million pound bid for little pea
That’s cheap, after all Chelsea paid 50 million for a giant cabbage.
If they’ve actually tabled a bid, Fergie should take a shit on it and post it back to them.
They can fuck RIGHT off.
it was a joke Kanchelskis
TonyBee
I got that the cabbage bit was a joke, but The Sun (I know, I know) seem to think Madrid are up to something.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3864495/Real-Madrid-table-30m-bid-for-Javier-Hernandez.html
Filthy Autocrats, no shame whatsoever. They didn’t even have a response for Sir Alex.
We need to get Hernandez tied down to a new deal. Fucking fascists cunts. Can’t they scout their own bastard players?
King Eric
Course not. Why gamble when you’ve got the financial backing that they have?
Look at two of the emerging stars of the last World Cup.
Hernandez – bought before the WC for £6m. How much would he have cost after?
Ozil – bought after the WC for £15. How much would he have cost before?
Madrid are one of those clubs that just waits until a player is proven then outbids anyone in sight. Remind you of anyone?
Love it Scott!
The FA are a bunch of hypocritical bastards. You can bet if Rooney got sent off in a Prem League game they’d be hitting him with a max fine and ban. Instead they are supporting “their best player”, who no doubt will get the blame when England yet again under perform and fail to meet the expectations heaped upon them by the media.
nevertheless Rooney deserves more than one match ban.
his actions are taken back to england and to the premier league where idiots will pressure him and boo his every move which would put him under more pressure and indirect nagativity for the whole team.
I don’t believe I would be on Rooney’s side this time. He just gave something to the english media (crap) to talk about other than football.
Would laugh myself silly if the FA with their changed attitude towards Rooney spends thousands trying to get only a one match ban then Rooney turns round and says he is not playing. Would be brilliant.
I dont give a monkeys what Rooney does with England btw. He’s not wearing our shirt, he’s not in front of our supporters, and he’s not playing alongside our players. When Evra did/said whatever he did at the World Cup I didn’t bat an eyelid and Rooney now is no different. So much politics and bullshit at the international level, especially if you are a captain or expected to carry to team. What were the odds on him being sent off anyway? After his dads arrest and so forth? Nah, Rooney acting up for England doesn’t count for me, because he’d think twice before trying the same shit at United. Besides, it was a soft red anyway, and the Ingerlund set up might actually benefit. Between now and next summer Capello needs a better game plan than simply “get the ball to Rooney”. Laughing Stock of world football SMH.
Here’s more on Rooney’s troubled times and the impending trips to Merseyside, the lad couldn’t have timed it worse!
http://www.thehardtackle.com/2011/manchester-united%e2%80%99s-corner-wayne-rooney-faces-his-demons-as-merseyside-looms-large/
Yeh, big test for Rooney on Saturday. You can bet your life the Scousers will be singing all sorts about his family, and he really, really needs to keep a lid on it. I would’ve said last week that I’d back Rooney to do this, but after his ‘moment’ on Friday, I can’t be sure.
Of course the best tonic would be for him to score an early goal. Would settle him no end. But I can see this being a tight, attritional game, with Rooney heavily marked, and probably targetted physically. He may find himself frustrated, but needs to stay calm. If he can do this, and keep working throughout the 90, we will win this game.
Kanchelskis @ 10:36
Can’t see us selling Hernandez, and I’d really like to think he doesn’t want to go. It is funny he’s still linked to the Fascists though, imo he doesn’t even suit their style of play. Thing is, when you consider the increased shirt sales across Latin America im sure he really is top of their list, so lets see his reaction to these stories. I supported his breakthrough last year, as he was in brilliant form and thats what dictates selection at any quality Club. Right now however, its Danny in brilliant form, and next season there will no doubt be another breakthrough player too. So for now, Hernandez has to take a seat on the bench until he is called on, and with it all still to play for, he should know his chance is coming any day now. I would like to hear him in the press committing himself to United, because as much as he does deserve an improved contract, if he suddenly gets giddy over Spain and unhappy at sitting on our hallowed bench, Alex should sell him to the highest bidder without blinking.
But… something tells me this kid knows a good thing when he sees it. He could become a legend at United, and im sure he has no interest in going to Spain after all our Club has done. The funniest part will be when Real start sniffing around Welbeck, can’t ever see the likes of him and Cleverly being lured by the bright lights on the continent.
@Clint-iamyourpapii ,
Not an England supporter but think your comment is weak and just pulled out of the reactions of crap British media. When England are doing well Rooney is the Savior, but when they aren’t “Rooney isn’t good enough” get a grip! And stating injuries as a reason for him “not being good enough” says all that has to be said, desperate attempt.
@José McG
Ummm… I think Clint was being more than a touch ironic.
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@What???
Yeh, I agree. Danny and Rooney first choice at the moment. I’m sure Hernandez appreciates he will get his chances, but he hasn’t exactly been on fire this season. You never know, a goal from the bench on Saturday might just kick-start his campaign!
Madrid always fancy their chances in snaffling Spanish, Portuguese and Spanish-speaking players, but like you say, I think Hernandez knows he’s at the right place. Would be chuffed to see him sign a new deal by the end of January.
Regarding Hernandez, I’m confident he will stay. Sir Alex have to work his charm & also offer a substantial weekly. The Glazers are paying, so 120,000/week looks ok to me.
What? Fucking what?
Well said Scott. The Fucking Assholes are getting what was coming to them.
james – Have you told your wife yet mate? Whereabouts in Malta did you go? Went there a few times as a kid. Buggiba/St Pauls bay. Gozo etc. Went to United supporters club in Valetta. Oldest one there is.
kanchelskis – Hello mate. That tight trousered cunt Redknapp also said “everyones joy back home has been tarnished by Wayne’s sending off”,. Oh fuck off and grow up you nomark cunt. Joy? It was a fucking comedy show second half. Durham last night was saying people should be chuffed Ingerlund qualified. Yeah right Adrian because they are gonna do so well out there. Fucking clowns.
Hiya Reds,
SAF sums it up so well imo
[The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world,” said Ferguson this summer. “Maybe they will get some joy from it and realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like shit.”]
Maybe its time for Roo to get back at them and refuse their helping hand. Hypocritesssssss
hi there King Eric, Costas
nice article on why we concede a lot of shots on goal..
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/10/05/why-are-manchester-united-allowing-so-many-shots-on-their-goal-this-season/
@kanchelskis
jus re-read and penny dropped, apologies, but Clints statements are not far from what some idiots do feel, forgive my rant.
As for the Hernandez/Welbeck debate I still feel I’d rather Hernandez to start against the dippers, I just think his extra bit of pace could upset their defense and wouldn’t be so surprised to see Caragher headin for an early bath due to his usual GBH tackles.
José McG
No worries fella.
Yeh, it’s an interesting one. There’s a real lack of pace in Liverpool’s CBs, especially old betroot-face Carragher, so you’d fancy Hernandez to get in behind at least once in 90 minutes (provided he can stay onside). But at the same time, Carragher’s a seasoned PL defender, and he’ll know exactly how to give the Little Pea a bit of rough treatment but get away with it (at Anfield and reffed by Marriner), and Hernandez hasn’t exactly shown durability when exposed to the physical stuff. Welbeck would give a Carragher a lot more to think about in terms of upper body strength, and I’d fancy him to do him for pace as well. For me, it’s Welbeck to start, with Hernandez ready to come off the bench around 65′ if needed.
FA scrambling to get a minimal ban,Capello playing hardball someone didn’t get the memo.
Lets face it FA mirrors modern day politics,handshakes,payoffs and everyone with their own agenda.The corruption at the top levels of all football is a disgrace i don’t get how all these cunts seem to be above the law,untill something is done to break up the old boys club way of running things always going to have issues with fairness. Blatter stinks of corruption and is a joke but keeps gettting voted back in,its up to the clubs to put a end to this,think the GM of Bayern started making rumblings last year.Problem is alot of the Spanish,Italian clubs are in bed with these cunts.What is needed is a independent entity, the present governing bodies just like all these corrupt politicans need to be wiped out,fucking makes me sick.
Like alot of lads i hope he gets a big ban,this could be the worst England team ever,Joey Barton was right he is better than half the cunts playing.I hope England fail miserably at the Euros and JT gets remebered for being captain of one of the worst periods in English football,
After England get rid of Capello and JT and bring in some young lads might start supporting them again,unless ‘arry gets the job that would be a joke overrated wideboy
cunt JT should be ripp off from england captain.. roo for england. legend
just noticed new poster denton daey,is that denton spelling his name wrong or someone taking the piss
An open letter to Michel Platini el Presidente of UEFA
Mr. Platini me old Vive le France
It has come to the attention of moi yours sincerely that the FA have written to you requesting in obligation that you be lenient to our Wayne’s red card in the previous England match.
I would love to endorse our lot over you lot, but in the spirit of European brotherhood and the ailing Euro but in all essence God save the Queen and her beautiful image on Sterling I implore you Sir, great Frenchman to not have a midnight in Paris and go to sleep on the matter leaving us betrayed.
Please feel free to ban our Wayne only for England to suit your hearts content and tell the Bernstein of fella whose the Boss.
Capiche?
With love yours truly oh and sincerely
MG
I am gonna back Wayne Rooney all the way on saturday. Nobody should be subjected to abuse of his family and if wayne loses his top i’m still gonna support him. He has every right to get angry when some random scouse low lifes are abusing his family.
@dannysoya know what you mean mate but Rooney and his family don’t do themsevles any favours.Fan abuse has always been part of the game,these top lads should be able to focus on the game and shut out fan noise.Seems to be a big move to start banning fans for what their saying,in a democracy people have a right to express opinions despite how distasteful it is.I really don’t like the idea of freedom of speech censorship getting to close to 1984
Let’s face it he’s made the fact he hates Dippers well known,that in itself is asking for abuse.
I think these things should depend on who the ‘victim’ is.
For example, trying to cripple Chicharito should be an instant red card and a three match ban (I’m looking at you Cashley cole) as he is a good lad who doesn’t mean any harm to anyone.
However, if the vicitm is, say, John Terry then kicking should be positively encouraged and rewarded, perhaps even a small trophy might be in order or a gift voucher for the local bookshop.
MG….giving it French…… ooh-la-fucking-lah…
afternoon Cyril… totally agree …..
should be sort of degrees of kicking handed on a cunt-o-meter rating of 1>10….
the bigger cunt you are the more of a kicking…..
Heard this morning a iranian actress made a movie portraying Iran in a bad light.She faces a year in jail and 90 lashes,that’s were censorship leads.
@TonyBee – Hi mate, the cunt-o-meter is definitely a good idea. Every player should be forced to undergo regular testing and if found trying to alter their cuntishness raing (e.g. by helping grannies across the road or adopting an under-privileged child) they get an instant fine.
Sherlock MG Holmes and Dr. TonyBee Watson go on a camping trip, set up their tent, and fall asleep.
Some hours later, MG Holmes wakes his faithful friend. ”TonyBee, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.”
Watson replies, “I see millions of stars.”
“What does that tell you?”
Watson ponders for a minute. “Astronomically speaking, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, it tells me that Saturn is in Leo. Timewise, it appears to be approximately a quarter past three. Theologically, it’s evident the Lord is all-powerful and we are small and insignificant. Meteorologically, it seems we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. What does it tell you?”
MG Holmes is briefly silent then says. “Watson, you idiot, someone has stolen our tent.”
Why is a kicking like a Christmas present?
It’s better to give than to receive.
Hello Gerrie mate.
Hello RoM, having breakfast on the road to Northern MN to go fishing with my cousins. Go USA! It looks like another guy is getting interest in in the EPL Shea from Dallas in the MLS. Nice slowly getting better on the Nat side of things.
The FA is a Lord and Surf relationship.
Rooney is awesome!
@TM4 just bite me with all your negative shit, you think your cute. And your just a looser. Karma slaps your snarkey ass sideways twice a week doe it not? Rooney’s bad Karma, worth 30 million, pro footballer. Winner of many trophies. Yea he is eating fucking dirt isn’t he.
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wayne – Hello mate. Agree entirely with your post about the corruption and stuff but mainly with your next post about Rooney. He has broad shoulders and HAS to keep his swede on. It shouldn’t effect him, just block it out. Anyway like you say his scouse family in typical fashion have made a rod for their own backs.
Ha Ha. Was watching a quick highlight of our 4-1 mauling by the dippers on LFC tv last night. The fat cunt commentator said at the end of the game “They said before today United were invincible. Invincible? NAH!”. Ha. Fuck off you fat cunt. Little did you know at the time we would claim our 18th title.
Also watched on ESPN the 3-0 win when Maschrano was was sent off. What a fucking shithouse cockney cunt Paul Walsh is. Always siding with the dippers and said neither of the argies offences warranted a yellow card. He was licking Stevie me’s arse despite him doing fuck all and didn’t utter a SINGLE word when United smashed in 3 goals. Didnt even compliment Nani on his belter. Never liked that blonde highlighted mullet haired cunt.
I don;t think T4M is having a go at Rooney, moreover the FA.
Anyone seen captaincunt9 or Megleeker recently?
@ King Eric – next town on from Bugiba, we went to Meliieah. Also went to Gozo, Comino, Blue Lagoon etc. Very good. Valletta very nice to, very religious. I thought I was going to get struck down for being a closet gay boy. Then I ditched the wife and hit the twon one night, awesome.
I could never tell her, she gives great head.
Cool KE, my feelings over many posts with him, like his impending doom for Wazza at Pool A bit snarky on my part was up at 4AM to go fishing. These breaks are tough on us all. My bad. Go big RED!
KE hope your wife is doing fine, father to be.
Rooney has to be able to handle abuse from rival fans. We give it out to Terry and Gerrard. We then can’t complain, when our players get stick. He will get singled out on Saturday. As long as he keeps his head, I can see United sneaking a result. We have to be up for this one.
Well my turn to drive and my brother is ready to go. We will be at the Lake by 2!!!!!!!!!! Drunk by 2:30 and fishing by 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All in RoM have a great day!!!!!!!!!
KICK LIVERPUDS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Willie, it is not his first Rodeo!!!! The boy was booed in the nursery at the hospital. Fuel the Wazza!!!!
Afternoon Watson
smartalex
@King Eric yes mate can’t turn his life into a weekly cartoon strip and not expect to get abuse,think its like Willie said he’s a plank and does things without thinking.
Anyway if someone sells their wedding photos,gets found out banging hookers while telling the world he’s a settled family man,photos of him shitfaced pissing against a wall,hair transplants,dodgy family members who have no thought for Rooneys reputation,imo can’t complain about getting stick.
I am Backing Wayney to spit in the face of his critics to score against Shitpool.
The lad is on form, showed maturity in his manner of leaving the pitch, the kick out was not malicious it was frustration at the abilities of his crap England team mates. He’ll dropkick the critics that continue to slate him whether he gets hair transplant, fucks a whore, smokes a cigerette, farts out loud or shits in a gold plated toilet.
WAZZA ! & Young & Nani to tear apart Carraghers legs.
@Clint not slating him mate just saying the way he conducts his life leaves him open,anyone who wants fame and fortune should conduct himself different from the ave person or face the consequences.Any opposing player in Rooneys situation would get tons of abuse from Utd fans.I’ll support Rooney while he wears the shirt and respect his football ability,don’t have any time for him after that.
Tony B: loved the cabbage quip! Too funny.
England. The prime player who declines the call up would be torn to shreds by the media but it will take something like that to (eventually) force a change. The problem is at the top, amplified by the choices for manager, abetted by the media who fail to see the issues.
If I’m not clear, I couldn’t give a shit how many games Roo gets banned, it will be too many and way too few.
Clint – don’t forget the Gerrard elbow on Danny last term. He may have been playing for Sunderland at the time but it still needs to go in the reckoning.
A nice own goal, assist by Danny, top left hand corner of the net, dripping snot from Stevie’s nose where it came in from.
Bliss
@Clint anyway don’t see how what he does on the pitch,how will that shut his critics up about what he does off the pitch.
We all know he’s a great footballer can score a hattrick against the dippers,doesn’t change the fact the lad is a selfish cunt and doesn’t give a fuck about anyone but himself.
Scott, this is why I love you, these articles are the ones I love, not the Tevez v Berba or Beckham bashing ones. You’re spot on with this one, funny how when it comes to England they don’t half go out their way.
james – Oh Mellieha Bay. How nice is that beach? Golden sands, shallow sea that goes on forever. Went to Medina the silent city. A lovely country and very nice people the maltese.
Zibbie – Yes pal. 31 weeks now. Thanks for asking .
Willie – I agree mate. I just have this sneaky feeling we will get a 1-0 win or hammer them. We are a much better side and have been the last three seasons. The one problem being we simply havent turned up. United rarely get outplayed if we are on our game. The only time we usually get beat is if we just don’t show up. Fergie said we lost the mental battle last year and were scared almost. You can rest assured he will have them up for this game.
Come on Scotland.
Tonka – Yes mate. I had forgotten about that cunt Stevie Me’s elbow on young Danny. Similar to the one on that cunt Michael Brown that he got away with as well. I don’t recall much media attention about it either. Unlike Wayne’s on McCarthy at Wigan.
Without doubt we are neva gonna see d backs of real madrid eva.they are alwayz gonna b waiting on d wings 4 d next big thing frm the carrington stables.what we have in our favor is a fiercely strong loyalty and affinity to the club on d part of our players.we’ve neva sold out to them except when it was convenient.anyways,I see chicha wanting to build a legacy in this latest incarnation of d saf dynasty.saf deffo would do the necessary to keep him happy and his teammates would continue to provide the toughest competition possible to whet his appetite for greater challenges.
King Eric – I can take losing any game. It’s how you lose sometimes though. As you say, we haven’t turned up the last visits to the dump. Just a feeling, we’ll be up for this.
Sure we dish out stick to opposing players But we don’t abuse their families. At least i don’t. If His family is abused and he reacts angrily then I will support him. You can’t heap abuses on someone’s family just cuz you don’t like him. Dishing out stick in the form or normal chants is fine but when it gets personal then I don’t like it.
Our man Wazza: Public Enemy Number One domestically, First Option internationally. FA: What a bunch of scrotum munchers ……
Eric reacted to the crowd, got a real long ban, and we still love him.
Rafael’s red card probably caused our loss in the CL, and we still love him.
That doesn’t mean it’s okay to react, and by so doing cost United a lot.
Wayne Rooney must be strong in the face of on-field abuse from the crowd.
Ronaldo was, Beckham was, Rooney previously was also. In fact there are many footballers who have it a lot worse. Balotelli was very badly abused in Italy, it seems he didn’t have the strength of character to survive. If Wayne can’t handle the abuse, he will be seen like Balotelli by the world and like Eric by some of us.
@smartalex true. i do hope he keeps calm and just channels his anger to the game itself.
@dannysoya, that’s what we’re all hoping! There’s always uncertainty with Rooney.
I think he’ll stand tall on Saturday.
this is the FA were talking about, do you really think they can do anything right?