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Jones: I’d Have Snapped Someone’s Hand Off For 40 Games

Phil Jones is pleased with how his first season has gone with Manchester United, after playing in 40 games in all competitions. Only Wayne Rooney and Patrice Evra have played in more games than our youngster, who turned 20 a couple of months ago.

“It’s gone really well,” Jones told the official site. “If anyone had told me at the start of the season I would have made 40 appearances for Manchester United I would have snapped their hands off. It’s incredible. I didn’t expect it this season. It was relatively easy to adjust because at Blackburn I always saw myself as a player who likes to get the ball down and play. That is what United love to do, get the ball down and play. The players have also helped me and made me feel so welcome. There is definitely an element of personal intimidation. You always raise the question to yourself. You wonder: ‘Am I good enough to be here?’ But the manager has shown faith in me. Perhaps I picked up a few injuries at the wrong time in the back end of the season. I couldn’t really get my match fitness back. I was in and out of the team. But now I feel good, fit and fresh. Hopefully I can finish the season strongly.”






 

468 Comments

  1. Albert Ross says:

    Well done Phil Jones, our superstar-in-the-making!

    First season 40 games – wow! This kid has a bit of everything needed to be a top player.
    And he’s at the right club.

  2. MK says:

    Guys, I don’t really care what Jones is saying. I’m just feeling depressed about the last three weeks and still haven’t come to terms with it…what a waste.

    Of all the teams to surrender an 8 point lead to ffs.

    No juicy transfer gossip to lift the mood, oh man…

  3. kanchelskis says:

    Hmmm … let’s hope Maxine doesn’t see this article.

  4. Albert Ross says:

    Guys, I don’t really care what MK is saying. I’m just feeling interested in Phil’s progress.

    MK, we’re all dismayed at our recent results. There is a lot of good to look forward to.
    For example, our Phil Jones.

  5. lordrt says:

    He needs to work on the ball distribution and he’ll be good to start every game next season

  6. kanchelskis says:

    @lordrt

    Yeh, there’s a certain calmness lacking from his game. When he has time to pick a pass, they can be good. And when he has time to line up a cross, some of them have been undefendable – great shape on the ball. But too often he panics and gives the ball away or overcooks his cross. Once that’s ironed out, he’ll be a lot more reliable.

    Interesting you suggest he could start ‘every game’ next season … in which position would you see him?

  7. CedarsDevil says:

    I have kept faith in Jones, you could see the signs at the start of the season that the lad has potential, huge potential. Injuries and playing in different positions have disrupted his season……

    I am sure eventually he will be played where he can develop and become a great….

  8. Trydent says:

    Morning everyone.The boy is comming along fine.People expect to much of a youngster.It is far better to encourage and support rather than knock every move.Jones will silience all the doubters in the next 2 years.
    Sure we threw the title away but we will never win every season.Keep the faith and look foward.There will be no announcements on signings untill the last game is played.The carrion will crow all summer but there is always 12-13 ahead.

  9. Trydent says:

    silence

  10. kanchelskis says:

    @Trydent

    I know. It’s quieter than Old Trafford in here.

  11. CedarsDevil says:

    Trydent

    Well said, sadly some fans are quick on the draw and are just happy to slate players, blindly at times. Its easy to forget how young Jones is. He is at the right club and will develop nicely and become a huge success

  12. georgejoseph says:

    please not right back because the boy cant cross or pass!!!!!

  13. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    You bugger!! Nice one though mate, although Trydent was referring to a typo in his post!!

  14. kanchelskis says:

    @georgejoseph

    Can’t cross? Have you watched him play at all this season?

  15. kanchelskis says:

    @CedarsDevil

    Haha – oh yeh.

    Can’t deny that OT has a tendency to be a bit subdued from time to time. Wonder whether the new singing section will help in that regard.

  16. Albert Ross says:

    City may have their soldiers of fortune, but we have our Soldier of Neptune.

    Good day Trydent, and well said!

  17. MUFCJord says:

    Morning Reds, applied for a ST for next year! Excited is not the word!

  18. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    kanchelskis, Well, that is still an area of contention. The general opinion is that he shouldn’t start at right-back and that is one I agree with. Rafael should get every game at RB next season provided he is fit. I also think Smalling and even Valencia are better at RB than Jonesy.

    A lot of us, including yours truly, would want to see him become a mid-field destroyer/box-to-box player in the Keano mould. He is well-equipped to do this. The only areas he is truly lacking are the calmness you spoke about and positional awareness, both of which cannot be expected of a 19 yr old playing his first season for United.

    Also, King Eric or anybody else who is up to speed with our reserves can chime in on this one. What do you think about Ryan Tunnicliffe? The only clips I have seen of him are in Youtube videos of the day he ran riot against Liverpool. King Eric has been raving about him and so has Ole for a long time. Do you think he will be ready for a first-team push next season? He has been on loan and got a decent amount of experience under his belt. If Pogba leaves, which is likely, do you think Tunni can make the place his own?

  19. georgejoseph says:

    @kanchelskis I’ve watched him and i would of played Smalling ahead of him at Right back, especially against City

  20. kanchelskis says:

    @georgejoseph

    So would Fergie, I imagine, had Smalling not had to fill in for the injured Evans at CB.

  21. kanchelskis says:

    @Balaji

    Agree re Rafael. I think unless we’re up against a land-of-the-giants team, where it might be worth sacrificing his all-round game for Smalling’s height advantage, he should be default for the RB slot. I just wish he’d stay switched on for a whole match though. No matter how well he’s playing, he’s always prone to a silly, expensive lapse of concentration.

  22. georgejoseph says:

    I have no doubt that Jones will be a great CB for the future !

  23. Jeet says:

    Buggerall – I was merrily posting away on the previous thread, and StR pull his usual fast one on me…!

    Anyway, agree with Balaji. If we move to 3 men midfield formations, I would like to see Carrick/Scholes (passer/intercepter) – Jones/New Player(Destroyer) – Cleverly/Kagawa(?) (creative linkman) as the squad. I think it could work very well.

    ==========

    For Albert Ross (with due credit to MG):

    Roman A: Sir Fergusovsky, I have a problem…I can’t get no satisfaction….
    Sir Alex: Och son, but you can’t always get what you want!

  24. georgejoseph says:

    So upset and pissed off, cant believe that we wasted a 8pts lead, still cant get over the Wigan and Everton result.

  25. wayne says:

    This lad will be fine first season was a learning curve,his season really sums up the stupidity and shallowness of some Utd fans.Went from the best thing since sliced bread to a bum by some clueless cunts,fucking laughable.
    Read an article on newsnow Sir Alex said Utd will be in for 2 or 3 players this summer,thought he didn’t have any transfer money?
    Just wish the anti’s would start backing their hate with facts otherwise that’s all it is hate and I will continue to question what the real motives are

  26. AntiScouser says:

    Right-back? Rafael > Smalling > Jones. Jones should be a central defender. He’s useless elsewhere (for the time being).

    For all his flaws, I’m excited about Rafael. Hopefully, he will become our Dani Alves.

  27. Albert Ross says:

    … continued

    Roman A: Sir Fergusovsky, I Got The Blues, so No Expectations….
    Sir Alex: Och son, Pass the Wine!

  28. Jeet says:

    :lol:

    Damn, this is fun…where’s MG and Willie when you need them?!

  29. kanchelskis says:

    @AntiScouser

    As the season draws to a close, any further thoughts on Ashley Young? I happen to think 6 goals and 11 assists from 24 appearances isn’t too bad…

  30. King Eric says:

    Balaji – Hello mate. Have to say Tunni seems to have stalled a bit. Hasn’t been setting the reserves alight. Will have to wait and see. Great little player all the same.

    Regards Jones it fucks me off that some slate him. Its his first season for god sake and he will become a top player. Love the lad.

    Andy Carrol being made out to be world class. Even fucking Rooney twatted “Carrol was unplayable tonight”. Err less of the respect for fucking dippers eh Wayne!

    That monotone cunt Wilkins has been nicked for drink driving. Must have been on his way home from Sky last night after his piffle about Carrol being top drawer.

  31. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    jeet, I’ve been thinking a lot about what you guys have been saying about 4-3-3 formations. And I have a few unanswered questions in my mind.

    For starters, I hope you guys have something like the following in mind:
    Back 5
    Carrick-Jones-Cleverley
    Valencia-Rooney-Young

    I think a lot of us are fans of this style because of how much fluidity it provides. I am pretty sure Sir Alex is also a big fan because of how much he used this when Ronnie was around. I love this style because the opposition defenders can never be settled because of how interchangeable the system is.

    However, do you think Sir Alex will move away from 4-4-2 and make way for this system? As we’ve seen this year, 4-4-2 isn’t cut out against the really good sides in Europe and England. Hell, we found it difficult to play that system against Wigan of all teams. That would mean Sir Alex “should” change the system. That is one question I had in mind.

    Secondly, that would also mean we use only one striker or will again be using players out of position. If we use a single striker, that would mean Rooney starts by default which might mean less game time for Welbeck and Hernandez. Or we might have to play Welbeck out of position which is not great. So, that is my second question. As to how the rotation might work if we go with that style.

  32. King Eric says:

    kanchelskis – hello pal. 8 goals in all competetions .

    AntiScouser – Become our Dani Alvez? What a horrible little cunt who cannot defend. No ta.

  33. King Eric says:

    wayne – Spot on about Jones mate. Fickle aint the fucking word mate.

  34. kanchelskis says:

    @King Eric

    What fucks me off, in my capacity as an England fan, is now everyone now seems to think Carroll’s a shoo-in for the Euros. Jesus Christ. If Bent’s fit, then surely Bent, Sturridge, Welbeck are all preferable to that lunk.

  35. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – Phil is not ‘useless’ at RB or at DM, that’s already proven.

    useless – having no ability or skill : he was useless at football.

    clueless – having no knowledge, understanding, or ability : you’re clueless about football.

  36. kanchelskis says:

    @King Eric

    Yep – meant to say league appearances.

  37. Udhala says:

    No one’s really slating Jones,just that I’ll prefer Rafael in the RB position to Jones and last I checked Rafael is still a UTD player.

  38. wayne says:

    Just seen on BBC 20 italian teams been investigated for match fixing including a couple from seria A,fuck me didn’t we go through that a few years ago
    How much can a team make on one game to justify doing this.

  39. Costas says:

    Outstanding first season for any 19 year old at a club like United.

    As for his best position, for me it’s going to be at CB. Doesn’t quite have the distribution or the composure to play at CM.

  40. Costas says:

    “His season really sums up the stupidity and shallowness of some Utd fans.Went from the best thing since sliced bread to a bum by some clueless cunts,fucking laughable.”

    Ha. Couldn’t have said it better, wayne.

  41. Albert Ross says:

    For a player to be so good, that we can’t agree his best position, is remarkable.
    Especially when you consider the variety of roles being mooted.

    Centre-half, Right-back, Defensive Mid, Box-to-Box.

    So many erudite and intelligent Reds on RoM have stressed their belief that Jones can fill those different positions, as each of them have seen the qualities required for each role in Phil.

    He is going to be a superstar, no doubt.

  42. Jeet says:

    @Balaji: You could also go with a variant like Back 5/Carrick-Jones/Winger-Cleverly-Winger/Rooney (4-2-3-1)….same theme, subtle change in variation, i.e. more emphasis on the holding role.

    I have also thought a lot of the questions you raise and here’s what i think:

    1. To have that interchanging fluidity, you need pace, skills, and pure goalscoring ability. We have all three.

    2. But certain players are not going to be so well suited to that formation. I would argue that Tony V wouldn’t be so well suited. First, forget interchanging with him – he’s too right footed. Second, that formation is best for wingers who are adept at cutting in and running at the center halves – something I haven’t seen TonyV do a lot.

    3. I would actually expect DannyBoy to do quite well in that system. He has pace, power, skills, and doesn’t hug the touchline so much. He can interchange with Rooney (who used to start from the left in that devastating attacking trio), and indeed play in the middle when Rooney is unavailable.

    4. If we adapt such a system, it would be very, very tough on Hernandez. I just don’t see him fitting in, unless he darmatically improves his allround game.

    ….net-net, given what Fergie says about loyalty, and his preference to have 2 strikers in the starting XI, I don’t see us moving away from 4-4-2 domestically. In Europe – I think we will move to a 4-2-31/4-5-1 -whatever you chose to call it. I refuse to believe Fergie doesn’t see that 4-4-2 doesn’t cut it in Europe anymore.

  43. AntiScouser says:

    @kanchelskis

    I’m so disappointed the way the whole club has responded to defeats/mishaps this season, and I don’t think it’s right to single out one individual and place the blame on him. Young has a “good” side (shooting accuracy, fine motor skills etc.), but a “dark” one as well (inconsistency, simulation etc.). I still think it was a mistake to go for him taking into account his age, mentality and skills, but he’s here now and there’s no point complaining. So I hope he gets better with time, but I honestly doubt he will.

    @King Eric

    Dani Alves has (in the previous 5 seasons) won 4 La Ligas, 2 Copa Del Reys, 2 CL and numerous other trophies. Enough for me.

    @Albert Ross

    See, the problem with English people is you rate your footballers way too highly. Proven at RB? Proven to score stupid own goals (Newcastle, Benfica). Proven at DM? That worked out just fine against Basel and on other occasions, didn’t it? Come on, be serious and honest.

  44. wayne says:

    Costas mate not admitting yet still think QPR can nick a point but have you thought about what you want yet

  45. wayne says:

    KE hi mate it went from him being the next Duncan Edwards to sell him,fucking hilarious

  46. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser

    English people? As opposed to what other people?

    Jones has performed admirably in each position. Not flawlessly.

    He has not played like a veteran of Old Trafford. Unsurprising seeing that he’d just arrived.
    A kid who hadn’t even been through our academy.

    Every player has had a poor game this season.

    The fact is that Jones has shown tremendous potential, and a great range of skill.

  47. Little Red Ant says:

    Ray Wilkins charged with drink driving.
    The song we once sang “Ray Wilkins King of all Cockneys” is now “Ray Wilkins King of all Cock-tails”
    …….just as side issue on a slow news day :o )

  48. Costas says:

    @wayne

    Ha, I kind of forgot about it. I did have something in mind, but I’ll wait until the season is over. I am not too optimistic, but I am praying there’s still a chance I can lose this bet.

  49. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – My statement to you was:

    I didn’t say Jones was ‘proven at RB’, I said “Phil is not ‘useless’ at RB that’s already proven”

    You twisted my words.

    You had called him ‘useless’

    useless – having no ability or skill : he was useless at football.

    clueless – having no knowledge, understanding, or ability : you’re clueless about football.

  50. AntiScouser says:

    @Albert Ross

    A great range of skill? Can’t agree with that, show me some evidence. I have seen very little skill from Jones. Passion? Yes. Youthful energy? Yes. Skill? No.

    Every player has had a poor game? Sure. Except that Jones has had a few more bad ones.

    All of this is understandable as he is young and has just arrived (as you said). It will take time, I agree.

    But what I don’t get is why play him in the most important games at the end of the season where you need to have nerves of steel and bags of experience? He was awful against Wigan and City. But then again, maybe I’m just too big a fan of Rafael that makes me oblivious to something.

    Bottom line, as far as RB is concerned, Rafael > Jones, any day of the week.

  51. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – Jones played DM for England, and did very well.

    He is likely to be back-up for Barry at the Euro’s, with his CH and RB ability also an asset.

    He is not ‘useless’ in DM.

  52. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser

    No!

    The ‘bottom line’ as you call it, is that your description of Phil Jones as ‘useless’ is wrong.

    Correct yourself.

  53. wayne says:

    AntiScouser the only time Young showed any inconsistency was after he came back from injury it takes time to get match fit and regain sharpness
    He was one of Utds best players at the beginning of the year,Utd’s blip at the end of the year was when he was left out.You should also look up the definition of simulation

  54. kanchelskis says:

    @AntiScouser

    Allow me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3BOTD-Gfqg

    (46 secs)

  55. AntiScouser says:

    @Albert Ross

    I registered the ad hominem the first time and chose to ignore it.

    Now quit being a 2-year-old and stop insulting people who disagree with you.

  56. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – if Jones hasn’t shown a great range of skill, why do so many people expect him to be great in a certain position? A variety of positions are being excitedly mooted. You need a great range of skill to be able to be considered for a variety of roles.

    Sir Alex must surely have seen a great range of skill to have played him 40 times.
    In a variety of crucial roles.

    Anti-scouser, Phil Jones is not scouse.

  57. wayne says:

    Costas Hughes is a proud man City fucked him over,let’s hope his players like him and play hard

  58. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – it is you who are insulting people not me.

    You insult Phil Jones, and you insult the English, and you insult our intelligence.

    You now admit to ignoring your own faults. We will not.

    Phil Jones is not ‘useless’

  59. AntiScouser says:

    @kanchelskis

    I knew somebody was going to post that. The phrase in question was “great range of skill”. In my humble opinion that’s not a great range of skill, this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5EWHqF2Bbc&feature=related

    What Jones did was a good, skillful move, but it happens too rarely to call him a skillful player. That was a spark of vibrant youth, I’d be surprised if he did that ever again.

  60. Udhala says:

    Rafael at RB is better than Jones in the same position,that shouldn’t be in dispute.Jones can play in any other position but unless there is an injury,Smalling,Rafael should always start before him in the right back position.

  61. Albert Ross says:

    kanchelskis – thanks for that video! good stuff from Phil, I’m so glad he’s our player!

  62. AntiScouser says:

    @Albert Ross

    “if Jones hasn’t shown a great range of skill, why do so many people expect him to be great in a certain position?”

    If the Earth is not 6000 years old, why are there so many young Earth creationists?

    (I hope you see how shallow your argument is)

  63. Albert Ross says:

    Actually, the phrase in question is “Jones is useless”

    That is wrong. He is not useless.

    To be selected 40 times for a variety of roles one must display a great range of skill.

    That AntiScouser is blind to it, changes nothing.

  64. wayne says:

    Udhala you keep posting the same comment we all love Rafa you’re drawing a ultimate conclusion which doesn’t make much sense mate

  65. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser

    Everything I have said is absolutely correct.

    Your foolish straw-man arguments are pathetic.
    They only serve to show that you are floundering.

    You said “Jones is useless”

    Answer this:

    Is Phil Jones useless?

  66. Voice of Reason says:

    Anti – Scouser – agree re Young – a squad player really – was not a priority for me should have been a midfielder

    Summerwish list – Out Park, Berba, Ando, Owen, Young, Kuzack, (why he was retained I do not know), Macheda, one of Scholes and Giggs to retire – no reliance to be placed on Fletcher – effectively he has gone – lets learn the Hargreaves lesson Might get 45-50 m for that lot, plus Pogba likely to go. If Madrid are crazy about Chico would throw him in to for a good price.

    In 3-4 midfielders – we onlyhave Carrick and Cleverley (and Jones as an option) we need 6 that can start regularly particularly if we want to play 433. One to be physical monster, and one creative, one cover for Carrick.In the last year we have lost Gibson, Fletcher, and Scholes from an already thin squad and Pogba and Morrison of the earmarked youth. Park has played there – thats 6 options gone

    One top class striker
    One left back

    One centre forward

  67. Udhala says:

    Wayne,who’s better at right back?I want you to say what you think clearly and concisely.

  68. Dazbomber says:

    Voice Of Reason- Sounds good when can you start ?

  69. Costas says:

    @wayne

    I know he hasn’t forgotten how he left. At the same time, a more important incentive for him is the fact that he doesn’t want a relegation on his resume. Unfortunately, there’s a good chance QPR will lose and still survive. Bolton have to score an early goal at Stoke in order for QPR to put up a fight.

    It was a somewhat similar situation when Newcastle got relegated in 09. We were playing Hull who could afford to lose as long as Newcastle didn’t get a draw at Villa. Newcastle fell behind early and Hull put in a completely lifeless performance against us.

  70. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    AntiScouser, First, no one argues that Rafael isn’t a better RB than Jones. People here have time and again said that Jones shouldn’t start at RB. As I said earlier, even Smalling is a better RB than Jones. However, there have been times when we haven’t had another option but to play Jones there. (For eg, against City when Evans was injured and Smalling had to cover at CB.) If given a choice, I am fairly sure Sir Alex wouldn’t play Jones at RB simply because he isn’t the best there and it would knock confidence off the lad if he has a bad game. Also, he isn’t bad there. He has a great cross on him and some of his tackles from that position have been outstanding. It is not his best position and he doesn’t have the greatest positional awareness there which leads him to make more mistakes than others. This is understandable for me, that may not be the case with you as you seem to demonstrate little patience when it comes to youngsters.

    Second, your definition of skill is purely subjective. You think that video of Dani Alves is skill whereas that video of Jones isn’t. This is merely up to you. I believe Jones demonstrates excellent skill in controlling the ball past all those Bolton players in the lead up to the goal. I also believe he has demonstrated excellent skill when it comes to crossing given time and space on the ball. He notched a few great assists earlier in the season with some spot-on crosses to Rooney that would’ve made any striker’s mouth water.

  71. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser – you said ” What Jones did was a good, skillful move ”

    How does a ‘useless’ footballer pull off a ‘good, skillful move’ ?
    He doesn’t.

    Your description of Phil as ‘useless’ is useless.
    Actually, he has many uses. He has been used at CH, RB, and in the Midfield.

    He is not ‘useless’

  72. Udhala says:

    Lol!!!!!

  73. AntiScouser says:

    @Albert Ross

    What I actually said was: “Jones should be a central defender. He’s useless elsewhere (for the time being).”

    What I meant was: In my humble estimations (bear with me) Jones should play as a central defender (definitely in big games) as he is not good enough to play other positions (read: we have better solutions for RB and DM positions).

    Notice “for the time being” part as well. Have fun interpreting, I’m off.

  74. Jeet says:

    @VoR: You’re having a laugh if you think you’re gonna get 40-50 mil for that list…

  75. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Just heard on talkshite apparently Yaya Toure, 4 days before sealing city’s first title win in 44 yrs, announcing his undying love for Barca and how he wants to return there and end his career with them. You couldn’t make it up. City will always hold the title of comedy club!

  76. AntiScouser says:

    “However, there have been times when we haven’t had another option but to play Jones there. (For eg, against City when Evans was injured and Smalling had to cover at CB.)”

    Eh?! Only if Rafael was suspended could you say we haven’t had another option.

  77. keano99 says:

    For a 19 year old he has had a good first season and he will only get better so I don’t understand the stick he’s getting give him a couple more seasons then make judgement he’s only a kid.

  78. Albert Ross says:

    AntiScouser if Jones is “useless elsewhere (for the time being).” why does he keep forcing his way into the team at RB, despite us having Rafael, Fabio, Chris, TonyV, and De Laet?

    He is not useless elsewhere (for the time being)

    He is useful.

  79. wayne says:

    Udhala all 3 are young lads normally a player will begin to peak at around 25 it was Jones first season I cannot draw any conclusion and each have their strengths and weakness
    You’re talking like its set in stone

  80. Brigadier19 says:

    Fuck England
    Jones will be a top keeper for United, mark my words. Sell Rooney, Sell Carrick, Sell every fucker and wind us down. Miserable Bastards.

  81. keano99 says:

    @ shebangsthedrum I can’t believe that what a fucking joke they are if a red said that I would want him hung by the balls from the stretford end.

  82. Albert Ross says:

    The voice of the Season Ticket Holders Association has resolved the issue.

    “Do not give Jones stick yet, wait a couple of seasons.”

  83. wayne says:

    Lol well I’ll take a English international who has 6 goals and 7 assists in 24 games first season as a squad player every day of the week
    Thought the team was in decline guess Utd’s squad can’t be that bad after all

  84. Touché says:

    Probably our 5th best CB at the moment, not our best RB, not a very good MF… Perhaps the new O’shea? We’ll have to wait to see

  85. WillieRedNut says:

    John O’Shea played 70/80 games in the CL for United? Not bad for a utility player.

  86. King Eric says:

    Ya Ya Toure has reiterated his desire to move back and finish his career with Barca. Fucking reject . Classy considering they have a huge game at the weekend. Bet the bitters fans love this news.

  87. Marq says:

    If Jones has played so many games and our points total is good, surely he is not doing something terribly wrong. Gathered there are games he did not hold himself in glory, but surely more is to come from him.

    Just imagine what a beast he could be in the middle of the field once he has some composure?

  88. King Eric says:

    AntiScouser – I am well aware of what Alvez has won mate but that might have summat to do with the rest of the side too. He is a horrible little cunt who cannot defend like I said.

  89. wayne says:

    Plays left or right wing or just behind the main striker I agree with VOR,Young should be sold
    Touche don’t be a idiot all your life,take a day off,the lad is 20

  90. Bishopville Red says:

    Jones faded terribly down the stretch. In the City game, he was forcing passes that weren’t on; in the Everton match, he was spraying balls to nobody in particular. Just two examples of how the season took a toll on him.

    Clearly, this was a year to learn what it takes to play at Manchester United I look forward to seeing how well he took on those lessons next year.

    SB

  91. King Eric says:

    voice of reason – Are you actually serious? Young out in the summer? We have just fucking bought him and he provides goals and assists and his work ethic is superb. He is going nowhere. A good first season settling in as far as I am concerned.

  92. King Eric says:

    Also why do we need SIX midfielders? Thats just ridiculous.

  93. King Eric says:

    God your post gets worse. Sell Hernandez to Madrid. Why not throw in Vidic, Rooney, Welbeck and Cleverley while we are at it?

  94. kanchelskis says:

    @Voice of Reason?

    Sell Young? Are you on a wind-up? No matter how bad you think he’s been (personally, as I said above, I think 6 goals and 11 assists in 24 league appearances is pretty good), in what way does it make financial sense to sell him, presumably at a loss, a year into his contract?

    Voice of reason my arse.

  95. King Eric says:

    Shebangsthedrums – Sorry love. Didn’t realise you had already posted about Ya Ya Toure. Unbelievable.

  96. ididnotzeeit says:

    Sell Jones, pub player. Sell Young, take whatever we can recoup. Throw Hernendez to the Virus with hopes of gathering a 2nd rate midfielder and maybe some cash.

    Jaysus. Spoiled lot in here sometimes.

  97. King Eric says:

    Brigadier19 – Quality mate.

  98. Jeet says:

    @Antiscouser: If you have a problem with Jones playing RB ahead of Rafael (I do too), that’s a different issue. What do you expect Jones to do – stand up to SAf and say, “But, Sir – I think you should play Rafael…”??? No point in slating him.

    Fact is, he started his season brightly, showed a lot of promise, but then got injured, had a bad spell, didn’t exactly cover himself in glory in europe. All to be expected for a 19 yr old from Blackburn playing his first season at OT.

    Fact is, we are wrong if we expected him to be the second coming of Baresi-in-his-prime. Fact is SAF knows better than us – personally speaking, I wasn’t convinced if we needed someone like Jones when we signed him, seemed like we couldnt make up our minds about what position we needed to fill. But then who could have foreseen the injury crisis that we have had this season?

    Have a little patience ffs, the kid is 19, and hardly “useless at the moment” even if SAF should have played Rafael ahead of him at RB. The difference between SAF and us is that we see the player “as-is”, SAF sees in his mind’s eyes “what the player will become”. Doesn’t always work, but we have been far the better for it, eh?

  99. Jeet says:

    @ididnotzeeit: yeah….and who was it that virtually sealed the title for us last season with that 36 second goal against the renties? Sometimes, I feel terrible for our players and manager – if these are our “fans”, who are our “enemies”???

  100. King Eric says:

    There is no doubts about Jones as far as I am concerned. He will go down a United great in years to come. Future Captain too probably. A top prospect.

  101. Jeet says:

    @King Eric: SIX – I tell you…fffs, you couldn’t make it up. SIX.

  102. wayne says:

    Bitter fans are such desperate cunts will take all the humiliation most of them must realize the players don’t give a fuck about City

  103. wayne says:

    6 goals and 7 assists I posted it earlier

  104. kanchelskis says:

    @wayne

    I’m going with the fantasy.premierleague.com definition of an assist, which includes being fouled for a penalty which is converted, and saved/woodwork shots which are scored on the rebound.

    That bumps Ashley’s league assists up to 11!

  105. WillieRedNut says:

    If Ya Ya leaves, they’ll sign Martinez.

  106. kanchelskis says:

    @WRN

    He’s not gonna leave this summer. Good as he is, there’s still no way he’ll force his way into a midfield of Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets and Cesc. Unless Tito Vilanova has some kind of radical shake-up in mind, which seems unlikely.

  107. wayne says:

    Kanchelskis oh ok mate I was just using his raw stats

  108. kanchelskis says:

    @wayne

    Yeh, I was donning my red-tinted Ray Bans ;)

  109. BerbaGod says:

    Jones is quality and going to be a stalwart in our team for years to come, believe he will be an excellent, ball-playing centre back, it’s not his fault he can play in several other positions too!

    Sir Alex will be on the look-out for players and targets will have already have been identified and carefully planned out. We don’t need much in terms of quantity just a few in quality. I have every faith we will be fighting it out on all fronts next year and win or lose the title this year it will only make us stronger.

    My only regret this season has been the ‘treatment’ of Berba – the guy oozes class and for him not to get more playing time this season after last season has really suprised me. Fairplay to Welbz though who has come in and had a fantastic first full season.

  110. WillieRedNut says:

    I didn’t say this summer Kanchelskis.

  111. kanchelskis says:

    @WRN

    Fair enough. I guess I’m just assuming that it will be this summer that Martinez makes his big move,wherever it may be.

  112. BerbaGod says:

    Hmm Javi Martinez is good but hasn’t he been playing centre-back all season? Can’t see him being able to play that attacking role Yaya has this season plus he’s not the quickest player in the world, although he has a great football brain, so playing alongside Barry would make them slightly vulnerable imo against the stronger teams – not a bad thing!

  113. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Absolutely love Phil Jones and also Chris Smalling. Both are top youngsters with bags of ability. Unfortunately for them defensive mistakes always look worse. I have no doubt both will be at united for the next 10 year’s

  114. Jeet says:

    King Eric might absolutely murder me for this, but on pure footballing ability, I’d take Yaya in a heartbeat.

  115. MG says:

    Jeet

    All the way from early in the morning.

    I’m here!

    :lol:

    I’ve got vertigo so not happy today bloody head is spinning though it’s just calmed down at the moment

    I’ve just had a blast at LUFCWhite on the shirt thread – that would make Cedars happy ;)

  116. MG says:

    The Venky’s

    Not finger licking good I’m afraid.

    They sure know how to not do things properly.

    :lol:

  117. MG says:

    I think Jones has done well for his first season.

    There is a lot to learn for the lad but I’m sure he’ll have learnt it which is the whole point.

    Here at United we give our youth time, though at times this year I wish we would have given them more of a chance when needed.

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  118. Jeet says:

    ahh, MG – how we missed you!

    Take care, and pop a few pills – those schoolgirls giving you the migraine? ;)

  119. MG says:

    Jeet

    Not quite mate not in primary school – bless them – :D

    Though Hayley on SSN is helping :lol:

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  120. Henke17 says:

    De Gea
    Rafael Vertonghen Vidic Alba
    Jones
    Cleverley Kagawa
    Valencia Rooney Nani

    Vertonghen – incredible captain CB at Ajax, probs available at 15m with only a year left on his contract. Perfect linkup with Vidic with Smalling in reserve.

    Jordi Alba – Amazing attacking left back with great defensive qualities at Valencia. Be incredible linking up with Nani or Young. tad more expensive at about £15-20million but we paid that for young!! I’d get him in a heartbeat!!

    Shinji Kagawa – amazing attacking playmaker from Japan at Dortmund. scored plenty of goals in Germany from midfield, fast link up type player who sits just behind the strikers. only a year on his contract so could get him for £10million or less.

    ALL of these players are under 25 years old and would be amazing at United and we could get all 3 for less than what we spent last summer. We’d be fucking crackers not to snap them up!!!
    Hopefully next season, we can keep Vidic, Anderson, Cleverley and Rafael fit and we should have enough ammunition going forard and holding the midfield along with some new signings.

    Not too much tinkering. No need for an overhaul. We’re not in decline. Few signings to be world beaters again!!

  121. kanchelskis says:

    @Henke17

    I ADORE your optimism!

  122. Jeet says:

    @Henke17: Vertonghen’s going to one of the north london clubs – most probably spuds. Tug of war between Vermaalen/Rvp and VDV apparently.

    @MG: LOL – keep up the good work with the future youth of the world. Went to the “shirt thread” and discovered the most amazing bobbycharlie1968 rant. And he claims he’s only 19 – I refuse to believe it ;)

    Probably boogeyman in disguise – in which case I absolutely DO NOT believe it :)

  123. Henke17 says:

    We’re Man United. Ever the optimists! and why the fuck not? :)

  124. Henke17 says:

    Even if Vertonghen goes to the spuds, we have Chris Smalling commanding a regular spot at CB with Vidic. Plus we’ll have Evans in reserve!

    Jordi Alba and Shinji Kagawa will sort us right out! :)

  125. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Did you feel the minor earthquake earlier today in Greece? Cyprus was pretty shaken up!! It hit at around 1.45 PM, the whole house was shaking, I felt as if someone had turned on the vibrator under my couch!! Creepy

  126. JH says:

    From scrolling through some of the comments here is a quick couple of points…

    Rooney is no good up front on his own in a 4-4-3/ 4-5-1 he was in 09/10 when he was banging them in, but he is not now he just gets frustrated and drops deep. look at city away massive mistake not playing him and danny the lad together.

    all about Rooney and Welbeck upfront next season.

    finally no jones in Centre midfield he isnt good enough technically. Had one good game there Qpr away. I like the lad a lot but he is a headless chicken!

  127. Jeet says:

    Cedars sleeps with a vibrator under his couch?!!! :lol: ;)

    Just kidding – hope all’s well, my friend…

  128. CedarsDevil says:

    Brigadier19 – Touche my friend!

    MG – Pity I missed out on the SS (Sheep shagger)

    Jeet – Ha ha, well it felt like it!! News said there were no damages at all, still gets your heart tingling though

  129. Manny says:

    He got all this hype because hes english. Needs to learn how to stick to his position and choose when to go forward. To many times caught out of position resulting in reckless challenges causing him a yellow card. Im not doubting his potential but we have to be careful about how much we hype him. One of the reasons i reckon fergie hasnt played him much in cb is because his decision making is poor as hes caught of psoition all to much. Same with rafael if you look at the everton game caught of position to many times as wel as not reacting quick enough shown when playing against bilbao. I hope pre season allows these two players to work on their games and become a lot better players and improve a lot more technically as far to many time lost posession playing poor passes.

  130. zigoo says:

    Talksport saying we are in for van persie

    Now thats a player that would improve usva huge amount
    We are talking about 30-35 goals a season along with rooney up front would be devastating

    Can also play right or left in a 3 man attack and would take pressure of the roon…
    Dead ball specialist too and i believe would reject city for us

    Yes hes 28 and yes it doesnt fit with our policy,but sometimes there are exceptions like berbatov

    I believe its a win win situation,and on his last yr of contract he would be 25 mill max

  131. Manny says:

    less than 25 mill unsettle him first arsenal wont want to lose another play for free i reckon 15 mil max. we need 3-4 player who are around the 27 age mark to allow the youngsters to develop slowly in the background

  132. kanchelskis says:

    zigoo

    Load of rubbish. He’d be a fine addition, but counterproductive to the development of Hernandez and Welbeck, and possible Young and Nani too. If we’re gonna spend enough money to buy him, I’d hope we don’t spend it on him, but on a midfielder.

  133. zigoo says:

    Kanchelskis

    I understand what u mean,but berba seems to be leaving,and owen,well,he does nothing except tweet so i wouldnt offer him a new contract…

    So we would need another striker,because in all honest i dont thinj hernandez or welbeck are the finished articles,albeit welbeck has had a good opening season,but hes more of a 3rd striker…and it wouldnt do them any harm learning off of rooney and rvp imo

  134. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Hi mate. Nah I didn’t feel anything. Must have been centered on Cyprus. Or maybe you were enjoying your sex too much. :lol:

  135. kanchelskis says:

    @zigoo

    Yeh, Berbs is off and probably Owen too.

    But I think if we break Will Keane gradually into the senior squad, then our three established strikers, plus Macheda and Keane, are enough. With the possibility of Young playing as a support striker if injuries strike.

    As I said, I’d rather spend the money on ensuring we have two top-quality midfielders (Carrick + signing) than four top-quality strikers.

  136. Marq says:

    @Manny
    Unfortunately, composure & positional sense comes with experience. No amount of pre-season is going to help Rafael & Jones get that. They are going to have to learn it the hard way.

    Rafael has made the more serious mistakes, against Bayern & Everton. Both of which looks to have cost us major silverware. Maybe I am old school, but sometimes I feel the best way to learn is the hard way. Just look at Beckham & Ronaldo, both crucified by the nation, and they came out of it a world beater. Perhaps had Rafael gotten more criticism, he might have improved alot faster?

    Just my penny of thought

  137. Jeet says:

    @kanchelskis : he wouldn’t hinder anyone’s development with his injury record and our our, err, injury record (nod to Costas)…he would be am incredible addition, but it’s a fucking pipe dream. I don’t think he’s going to go anywhere, now that 3rd place is pretty much guaranteed for them. In fact, I believe Le Arse could be strong challengers next year if they get M’Villa – maintained for ages that they need that sort of player in the middle of the park…

  138. slayer says:

    It will be quite some time before we know whom SAF going to buy this year. As long as the quality is there to replace what United lost or what United lacks, I will be glad. But I do hope the players he bought will fit into the game easily and help United to challenge for a greater future.

  139. kanchelskis says:

    @Jeet

    It just baffles me that, with our financial restrictions, people are entertaining the idea of buying a luxury fourth striker, rather than an absolutely fucking essential SECOND central midfielder.

  140. Jeet says:

    @Costas: Sex…what sex?!! Cedars takes matters into his own hands ;)

  141. MG says:

    Jeet

    :lol:

    Cedars

    G’day Cedars!

    I’m still at it – Forged with Watson The Red Knight Will Rise :lol:

    I feel sorry for some people – I have never the time to infiltrate other teams conversations/blogs etc etc

    It’s just me – in love with my own team full stop.

    :D

  142. Manny says:

    @Marq

    totally understand mate we need them to learn quickly. we need to by 2-3 expereiece players into the midfield and then these players can learn from players who have been there and done it

  143. MG says:

    I totally agree with Marq

    Better get ready for biting the bullet unless the miracle of all miracles happen on Sunday

    I’m sure United will come back as they always do, it’s a valid point need to learn the hard way to understand the mistakes to be better

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  144. MG says:

    Costas

    :lol:

    Cedars the Devil Sex God – there you go Devil and God in one go ;)

    :lol:

  145. Mikekelly12 says:

    I’d have snapped someone’s hand off for 20 titles!!! Evening ball bags!!

  146. zigoo says:

    Kanchelskis

    Yes the midfield is the utmost priority
    If rumours are true and the kagawa deal is done,thats great…however i do feel we need another one aswell,seeing that pogba is probably off,and that would leave us with carrick,anderson,scholes,fletcher and clevz…clevz and ando u just never knw with them when it comes to injuries…and fletchr u dont know if he will ever come back the way he was….

    So that would leave us with a 38?39?yr old scholesy and carrick,god forbid carrick gets injured we r done…so havin 2 maybe even 3 new mid signings should be the priority,with a left back

  147. kanchelskis says:

    @zigoo

    Yeh, by the sounds of it this Kagawa chap is the real deal, so good news if that is tied up. Not sure about the validity of these rumours – I know there was a lot flying around on Twitter which was proven to be unsubstantiated. Do you have any solid sources that are saying it’s a done deal?

    BUT, I’d still prefer either a steely holding mid or a box-to-boxer, for reasons I’ve been into countless times on here and won’t do again!

    I think we should also be prepared for Carrick not to hit the heights of this season. We’ve relied on him so much and he’s been fantastic. But he will be the wrong side of 30 when the season starts and will be having to adjust to this. And as we’ve seen from him before, one superb season isn’t necessarily followed by another … we’ll see.

  148. CedarsDevil says:

    MG

    What can I say, my reputation precedes me!

    Mike

    Afternoon dipshit…….. I am really looking forward to next Sunday, one last look at the lads before the long summer break kicks in….. UNITED

  149. Marq says:

    Next season we shouldn’t even count Scholes & Giggs as part of the team. If they are there, its just a bonus. As it is now, we only have Carrick, a questionable Fletcher, a unproven Cleverley and a disappointing Anderson. Going into the new season with only a proven midfielder is suicidal

  150. King Eric says:

    kanchelskis – I think Carrick , like Fergie says, can play at the top level for another 2 or 3 years easily. It’s his reading of the game, composure and range of passing that are his standout qualities not his energy around the pitch or pace.

    Regards Kagawa are these rumours just bullshit? The quote I saw was he would talk about his future after the German cup,. Now it’s been embellished to read “When I begin a chapter at Manchester United” or summat daft?

    Jeet – On the contrary pal. Toure is a decent player but I just hate the bastard. His laughing and joking with Balotelli last Monday was a piss take of the highest order.

  151. zigoo says:

    Kanchelskis

    No,just the rumour mill probably the same sources you have heard it from,we will just wait and see what happens…and pray for a miracle come the weekend.

    Regarding carrick,u have hit the nail on the head,seeing thAt we havent replaced scholesy,not that he is replaceable,tells me carrick is far off from being replaced…imo hes probably had his best season for the club,maintaining his good form from the end of last season,lets hope he maintains it,hes very good at doing the dirty work,and starting attacks…i dont buy the he only passes sideways rubbish …

  152. kanchelskis says:

    @King Eric

    That ‘chapter at Manchester United’ quote was completely fictitious. Made up by someone on Twitter claiming to be a Japanese journo but was just a troll. The whole quote was angrily denied by Kagawa’s camp.

  153. King Eric says:

    kanchelskis – Cheers mate. Thought so.

    Meanwhile: Fuck off Alan Green you fucking scouse cunt and concern yourself with your own club. Getting written off left rifght and centre. How if City win ONE title are they the new powerhouse?

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/alan-green/alan-green-manchester-united-in-decline-while-blue-moon-keeps-rising-16155740.html

  154. kanchelskis says:

    @King Eric

    Alan Green just the one of many Scouse twats who’ve been masturbating furiously over the bitters all season. It’s tragic. They know that City are the only ones who stand between us and pulling even further away from their domestic league tally. They sure as hell aren’t gonna be gunning for their 19th any time soon.

    In fact, there’s a guy at work who’s been banging on about City all season and how they’ll dominate for years to come. Surprise, surprise he’s an LFC fan. Thinking of buying him a City shirt for his next birthday.

  155. NBI Red Onion says:

    You have.

  156. zelh says:

    reportedly worst united team in the last 20 years may lose the title on goal difference to the strongest bitter team ever.
    All you need to know.

  157. NBI Red Onion says:

    You bit off Rafael’s and Smalling’s hand you bastard. Now they can’t even wank properly and see what happened then.

  158. Redbilly says:

    Kanchelskis- love city fo they ?, the love in is only due to being in contention this season and next. When the bitters gazump their own clubs and keep em as bench warmers a different story . Couple of scouse singing blue moon at the weekend and one wearing a bitters scarf yesterday!. No hope for them . Fucking scousers .

  159. Redbilly says:

    Zehl- spot on, reality check .

  160. NBI Red Onion says:

    Jury out for me on Jones.

    I need to see him play in one position for a while before I can form an opinion. Right now in the positions I have seen him play CB, RB, CM, he is not the finished article by any means. The key issue is his positioning and reading of the game, his best attribute is he times tackles very well when in position and hustles hard. However, he has yet to convince. I know he is young. So ofcourse he gets more time before a conclusion is reached while we perculate his performances through beery brains.

    I think Smalling did better in his first year and is for me the true heir to our CB legends Rio-Vidic, Smalling for me is the best of Smalling-Jones-Evans. I see him and Evans as second choice CB’s after Rio-Vid.

  161. lawman10 says:

    Alan Green 1st Class Cock !!

  162. Mikekelly12 says:

    Zigoo
    Left back, right back, 2 midfielders and a striker. TalkShite saying we’re after RVP. Hahahaha! They really DO talk SHIT. Also read on twitter that YaYa was talking about wanting to go back to Barca. Classic!

  163. NBI Red Onion says:

    @ zehl – if we lose to city on GD the “bitter” pill will be that alot of the goals were avoidable – against City (which added 5 for them and cost us 5) and against Everton etc. That is the real bitch of the situation. We could and should have bitch slapped their ass on GD – giving them 10 in that 6-1 defeat was like hiring a stripper for your friends stagg and finding out grandma.

  164. James21 says:

    Jones will learn his trade at Utd. If he doesn’t cut it then it’ll be farewell just like the others who have been moved on. Not overly sure what some expect of him in his 1st season and why all this ‘Now Now Now’ attitude? If SAF had the same attitude most of our top players would have been sold long before they became top class. CR7 being just one of them, if SAF had listened to the ABU’s and the whinge bags he’d never had become the player he is today. Remember Gary Pallister, slagged to fuck in his 1st seaon. Time Gentlemen Time.

  165. zelh says:

    NBI Red Onion – couldn’t agree more. Still can’t quite believe we threw 8 points away in 4 games.

  166. Marq says:

    @Kanchelskis

    As they said, the enemy of an enemy is a friend. Can’t blame Liverpool fans for wearing blue. They forgot something too it seems, they are also overshadowed by their blue neighbours =p

    Let others who hate us do desperate things to applease themselves. We only got our eyes for ourselves, and how to improve & be top again rather than waste time eyeing others

  167. Denton Davey says:

    Marq @ 15:50: ” we need to by 2-3 expereiece players into the midfield”

    I disagree with that view. What UTD need is ONE EXPERIENCED, TOP-QUALITY box-to-box midfielder who can “replace” DarrenFletcherinho’s game-time. I’d spend more to get a mid-career, proven “star” than two/three guys with potential.

    Look at it this way. Michael Carrick is a lock to be played in ALL the key matches, if he’s healthy. BUT, really, how many “key matches” are there over the course of a year ? I know, sometimes a home match against Everton and/or Newcastle might be “key” but usually TheLads are pretty certain to win those contests; even CL matches like the ones against Basel and Benfica in the first round are usually not “key” but might be so in retrospect.

    My calculations are that the home/away fixtures against ManShitty, CSKALondon, TheArse, LiverPoo and – maybe – Newcastle, Everton and Spurs could be considered the real tests in the EPL: that’s a total of 16 matches. In Europe, nothing can be calculated with certainty but – usually (I know about counting chickens !) – this means the eight matches in the rounds of 16/8/4/2 and the CL final.

    So, in a “usual” season, UTD have 32 key matches and roughly the same number that a midfield of, say, Anderson and Cleverley would be fine.

    Things get tricky when Michael Carrick and, say, TheGingerNinja are expected to be key-players-in-key-matches. Individually, they’re both outstanding but together there’s something lacking – something that neither Anderson or Cleverley (if fit !) can provide. That key ingredient is “grit” or “drive” or “sandpaper” or “energy” – whatever you want to call it. It’s what Fletcherinho provided in his “football genius” mode – same goes for Owen Hargreaves in his one season.

    UTD’s squad is fine but, as presently constituted, it’s not balanced. Maybe MrJones could provide the required grit/energy to partner Michael Carrick – I think so – but SAF must have thought long and hard about this as he’s had to re-live the two CL defeats to Barcelona and a number of other matches when he’s been unable to put out a balanced team.

    So, for me, one new signing – but the right guy. THAT’s why I was banging on about Schweini and De Rossi for the last couple of years; now, I’m not certain who “the right guy” might be although I have a sneaking suspicion that he’s already wearing the # 4 red shirt.

  168. King Eric says:

    Spot on James lad. Course he isn’t the finished article. He is only just turned 20 for god sake.

    kanchelskis – Absolutely. The dippers have suddenly become City fans.

    Durham just said Chelsea weren’t bothered about last night. Err well they fucking should have been seeing as though they cannot finish higher than 6th now.

  169. mancdub says:

    Don’t get me started on Alan Green. 
    I would rather listen to a match on a foreign station where the only words that I understand are the players names than listen that cunts voice.
    I woke up feeling fine today but someone mentioned Alan fucking Greens name. Now I fuming.
    It amazing the effect he still has on me after all these years.

  170. Redbilly says:

    King Eric- hello mate. Mrs and little on ok?.

    Dippers. Mentioned yesterday . Scouse in a pub weekend singing blue moon . Says it all.

    Durham- not worried about last nights defeat, which club does he support ?. No problem, cone runner up in the CL. Final and not even qualify next season. What a cunt.

    All these sad fucks vinegar stroking over city, ONLY. Because they nay take the title we gifted them . Us v richest club in the world. The scouse are so low now they only have our misfortune to look forward to.

    PS. Loved. Kkk, stevie G and the gypsies face , full time Sunday. Cheered me right up.

  171. Voice of reason says:

    Why if young has been brilliant would we sell at a loss – we should make a profit given he has 3 years not 1 on his contract

    If I could 20 m for Chico would take it and get a leader of the line

  172. Redbilly says:

    Schweinstieger . Give my right arm If we could have signed him. Could do with a couple of real tough cunts like him.

  173. James21 says:

    Alan Green is a closit Koppite, or tries to be. One caller mentioned it to him and he cut him off. Think it was after the Villa 3-2 at OT when Macheda scored. He’d been shouting ‘Are you watching Manchester’ when the scouse got a late winner at West Ham the day before. If he supports Liverpool why hide it. Then again I can see why, it is embarassing.

    NBI
    I see your point believe me it was painful sitting their till the final whistle and hearing those scummy Posnan Pricks in their delight. The fact is though that if Fletcher hadn’t have scored the game would have petered out at 0-3, but Utd being Utd fully believed they’d score 2 more, and I can assure you the shitty fans also believed it, they went deadly silent. After their 4th for some reason we kept going forward still not sure why. But looking at other games, we haven’t really lost too many goals without scoring more or getting a draw. The losses have been by small margins (Without checking) and I hate to say Shitty have destroyed some teams this season so fully deserve their Goal Tally on their own merit.

  174. NBI Red Onion says:

    With Dogleash, Suarez and Carroll, I am pleased to say I genuinely and refreshingly truly hate Liverpool. I never quite hated them b4 as they have not been rivals forEVA. But this has now changed.

    Barton will be red carded in the first 5 minutes, over-gelled fool.

    Toure is flippin beast, a game changer, what a player, Barca could have used him this term. We need a player like him. Pobga was supposed to be that. SCREW U POGGERS.

  175. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Jones is not the most skilled lad and can’t just be moved around the park like fergie does with so many new lads. That said, I think much of the value of Jones is that he really hasn’t produced his best for the club. He has been carrying injuries and this has really not done him any justice. As with Cleaverley, we need some patience to see the best of the lad. I gave Carrick 4 years of patience and think he is one of our best players ATM, think Jones deserves a bit of time as well.

    I do think much of the talk about future england captain is a bit over the top. But who knows.

    Get in Phil! Give us a good 40 games next season and bring us some trophies.

  176. CedarsDevil says:

    Some people here are seriously daft

  177. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Off topic:

    Yaya Toure on Radio Rac1 ”
    “I would love to return to Barcelona and finish my playing career there. If they called me, I would not think twice about it,”

    Oh City are a Massive Club

  178. NBI Red Onion says:

    @ James – yeah, I would have thought Rio and Evra etc would have done damage limitation. I think the Arsenal 8-2 and early free scoring had gone to their heads and they underestimated City.

  179. CedarsDevil says:

    Fletch

    I guess Yaya still hasn’t realized how massive city are!!

  180. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Best RoM thread in ages, top views from top reds love it.

    I just heard Cedars orgasm from Lebanon at the thought of signing RVP.

    In terms of Carrick the boy is class, he os like a painter he will be worth more when he’s gone and miss him like fuck akin to Fletch this seson.

    Yaya Toure is the difference fuck me imagine him playing infront of Carrick and Clev.

    This Kawasaki kid looks the real deal and replace the false hype on Pogba. Give me Tunni over pogba everyday

  181. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Refs have been announced for Sunderland match
    Sunday 13th May
    3pm kickoff

    Ref: Howard Webb;
    Assistants: P Kirkup, M Mullarkey
    4thOfficial: Halsey;
    Delegate: Blackbourne;
    PGMO: Laws

  182. James21 says:

    Cedars
    How are you mate? Vibrator hay, say no more. :D
    Do you know anything about building Arcs? If it rains anymore here I could float to Cyprus.

  183. CedarsDevil says:

    Giggs12

    You heard it too mate? ha ha Actually I am still in Cyprus and what you might have heard was the minor earthquake that hit the island at lunch time today. Probable cause could be the RvP news!

    Seriously though there was an earthquake

  184. James21 says:

    Fletch
    I’d kill for Agent Rob Styles. A true Red and I’m sure he’d see his way to award us 10 penalties and send a few Sunderland players off. :D

  185. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Expecting a bit of Mullarkey from the match assistant on Sunday. :lol:

  186. redindian says:

    jones will be ready to take over from vidic in maybe 3 years… he is the real deal…. never seen kagawa… whenever i see dortmund, gotze just steals the show…. hazard or martinez or modric would be the perfect signing…. too bad m’vila is goin to arsenal… he reminds me of viera but without the vagina…..

  187. Shebangsthedrums says:

    King Eric – Alan Green is shamefully ABU, can’t stand him, can’t listen to 5 live when he’s on. I wonder if he reads the responses to his articles, because the one there is spot on.

  188. WillieRedNut says:

    I think that disturbance in Cyprus was Cedars opening his wallet.

  189. CedarsDevil says:

    James

    Doing great mate, still vibrating though!! As for arks, not good my self but there is an excellent DIY book called the Old Testament, read the chapter on Noah, the fella is supposed to be top notch when it comes to building arks!!

  190. Redbilly says:

    Fletch- pity webby isn’t at the city game. They are already nervy re his selection for sunderland . :-) . If we clinch it hHa , piss up in Manchester ?.

  191. James21 says:

    Cedars
    I’ll look him up. :D
    Think I’ll be causing earth quakes on Sunday if QPR get anything, and Utd win of course.

    Willie
    Cedars wallet normally creaks when opened a bit like Dracula’s coffin lid. He still thinks you can spend White Fivers. :D

  192. Wakey says:

    @Voice of Reason

    Assuming your handle is being ironic as your in/out post is far from it. Football is a squad game and that means you need settled squads so making as many changes as you have listed would just be crazy. Would disrupt the squad and would take time to gel.

    We will not see the 8-10 out (well may be closer to that if we are including loans of the young first teamers  such as Fabio ) and 7 in as that’s simply too much of an overhaul in one go if you want a happy squad that plays as one

  193. FletchTHEMAN says:

    James21 Good one mate. Unfortunate as it may be, old Rob was put out to pasture and is retired.

    Redbilly, Cheers! Happy enough with Webb for our game, can’t do much damage I hope.
    I think City v QPR get Mike Dean. There is always a conspiracy to he had if you look hard enough. GET in Sparky ;)

  194. Redbilly says:

    FletchTM- let’s hope so, early bench for tata just the trick.

  195. James21 says:

    Fletch
    Yeh I think Burnstien saw the threat.

  196. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    I wonder if Hodgson picks Carrick for England he is a known admirer of maestro. I hope for Carrick he does there is no more derserving player in England right now.

  197. NBI Red Onion says:

    @ Fletch – exactly – Toure is a beat, no coincidence that City’s dip in form came while he was at the Africa Cup of Nations. But to get in the Barca team now you must be short enough to be banned from riding rollercoasters.

  198. CedarsDevil says:

    Well I suppose we can still hope while hope exists………Best way to get QPR playing out of their skin would be if Bolton get an early goal at Stoke….

    If Bolton do win away then QPR would need a point to stay up….. Too many ifs and buts I know, we can only dream right?

    Redbilly

    That tata fella, some player he is!!

  199. Diego says:

    Sunday will be a horrible day. City will rape QPR like Chelsea did Wigan in 2010. Every pundit across Ingurlund will mention the 6-1 in every other sentence.

  200. James21 says:

    I still say this very poor team (sarcasm) we have, has done fantastic this season in the league. None of the so called top 4 have been able to touch us, not including shitty of course but they are small time with a big chequebook. I still can’t see them spending stupid ammounts of money in the close season, unless they have a major clear out. How can they even attempt to balance their books?
    Fans sit here and blame the Glazers but surly Utd are competing in the transfer market and on the field. The only factor that has stopped us in the premier league is Monsours investment in shithole.
    Anyone agree or disagree. :D

  201. Diego says:

    Yes, United are competing in the transfer market… With bloody Liverpool for the most overpriced Englishman, and currently Liverpool are in front.

  202. James21 says:

    Where’s MG? I have Muslima.com and mature dating.

  203. Voice of reason says:

    Wakey – let’s keep people around for the sake of it then – only controversial one on my list might be young – the rest are no brainers

  204. Albert Ross says:

    Let’s get rid of people for the sake of it then shall we.

    No brainer is correct.

  205. MG says:

    James

    I’m right here!

    I have clean up your mac with mac-keeper :lol:

    Lucky you James ;)

    :lol:

  206. Albert Ross says:

    MG – hello sir!

    Have you used one of these mac cleaners?

    I think my mac is working fine, so I haven’t used any of those free ‘cleaners’
    Do you think they might be dodgy, or is it a good idea?

  207. MG says:

    Old friend

    My brother who is seriously a Mac expert has told me to stay away from them – con artists!

    Don’t even bother clicking on it he said – I hope that is good advice ;)

  208. MG says:

    James

    Now I’ve got 1 tip for a flat belly!

    Yeah I’ve got one – don’t fucking eat shit – easy!

    :lol:

  209. Forest says:

    Yes he was

  210. James21 says:

    Viva MG
    I don’t eat shit either, same can’t be said for my drinking habbits. :D

    Albert Ross
    Watch it or they’ll get rid of us all. :)

  211. slim says:

    you can tell summer is round the corner.

    for all the analysis of what player is needed and why, i truly believe that a training regime change is whats needed.

    our players were dropping like flies this year and i partly blame the 200mph footie we’re obessesed with.

    The thinking is get it down the wing as fast as possible,when majority of players these days want to do more with the ball.

    in my opinion its great we have this fantastic ability on the wings but not enough is being done in the engine room and other areas. the game has changed and we need to adapt.

    a united side equally as devastating on the wings as through the middle of the park is a devlish prospect.

    on topic. jones has done okay and maybe i’m the minority here but after his first game it was obvious to me he would get some serious game time. it was like “smalling” all over

    its as if he’s (jones)has had his fantastic debut season and the inevitable 2nd season syndrome problems all in one. CB position i where i hope he ends up.

    Alber Ross

    may not agree much (squad stuff)but your wordplay is shit hot. a writer maybe? no matter really good stuff

  212. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening reds around the world,

    hello Alberto Rossi..

    evening chest thumping RED Tarzan ;)

  213. WillieRedNut says:

    Voice of sachu? Must be a reason……

  214. James21 says:

    Evening Sandy.

    Willie
    Nice to see some of us don’t need to post under other names.

  215. Albert Ross says:

    MG – thanks mate! Just the advice I expected. Mac’s don’t seem to need cleaning!

    James21 – So they are Cleaners in the deadly sense? Let’s steer well clear then, thanks!

  216. Sandeep1878 says:

    ‎”City are red-hot favourites but we’ve won the title on three occasions on the last day and we don’t mind doing it again.” – Sir Alex

  217. WillieRedNut says:

    James – So easy to spot.

  218. James21 says:

    sandy
    I’m not half as nervous as I would have been if we needed a point to win it. One of the 1st games I can actually sit back and relax. Hope the team can settle, get 8 up at half time then start believing and bang in another 5-6. :D

  219. Albert Ross says:

    slim – thanks for your compliments, much appreciated!

    Perhaps I’m a writer, we will see. I think I’m getting there, but I have achieved nothing concrete enough to claim any titles yet. There is hope, apparently!

    As far as the squad stuff etcetera goes, I’d like to be educated. I know that you don’t attack Sir Alex or the players with lies, so I should be able to keep focussed on the issue at hand, should your views confront mine. I do believe my views strongly, but only while they remain my views.

    The second that I see more sense, I am well able to happily claim a wisdom fired by my fail.

  220. James21 says:

    Willie
    He has more names than a grave yard.

  221. MG says:

    James

    :lol:

    Mission Impossible

    20th Protocol

    :lol:

  222. zigoo says:

    In regards to carrick,i think he can go on for quite a good few years,yes his stamina will detiriorate and will tire quicker,but the passing players usually go on for longer than the gattuso types of players…best example is pirlo,scholesy,guti to an extent,aimar etc…

    Fletchers luck has let him down throughout his career in my opinion,theres always been those games where we say ‘if only fletch was playing we wouldnt be struggling’ and the best examples of that are the finals in rome and wembley,vs bilbao home and away from the top of my head!
    Its bad enough having a serious condition,but having bad luck too….

  223. Albert Ross says:

    Good evening Serendipity1878!

  224. MG says:

    “At United we strive for perfection. If we fail, we might just have to settle for excellence” Sir Matt Busby, Manchester United.”

    19

  225. King Eric says:

    RedBilly – Yes good now thanks mate. How are you?

    James – I don’t think Alan Green even tries to hide the fact he is a Liverpool fan these days. It’s common knowledge. Ha. Is that what he shouted when they got a late winner? Was it Benayoun?

  226. James21 says:

    KE
    Yes it was Benayoun the starving Gary Neville.
    I was also told that he was mouthing it off during a Utd game and Rio got him by the scruff of the neck and warned him. He never came back down in the 2nd half.
    Its blatently obvious so why cut a caller off who only suggested it. Like I said it is embarassing being a scouse. :D

  227. King Eric says:

    ShebangstheDrums – That response is spot on. No the fat fuck won’t bother reading any replies.

    Best ref was Scholesy’s Dad Paul Durkin.

    James – City have actually scored only TWO more goals than us.

  228. Sandeep1878 says:

    MG,

    that is THE best quote…

    James,

    Ha ha ha..

    now for me all that matters is we get 3 points,

    we all know how hard it was for players to get going with the Swansea game after they knew City winning at Newcastle..

    good thing is that all games kick off at same time..

    and i hope we take Sunderland seriously..

    even if we are losing, definitely i would want to finish on level points..

    Its a tough for players, mentally..real tough!!

    Rooney needs to keep his calm..

    ##

    Hope we start Young and Valencia on wings and Nani and rooney upfront and inter changeable..

    Chicha looks out of touch with lack of games..

    but he is still our best away striker!!

  229. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening King Eric..

    hope you are all in good health..

    One last game and then curtain closes on one of the most learning and forgettable season!!

  230. King Eric says:

    James – Skinny Gary Neville . Ha. Superb. I remember that game and that late winner as I was gutted. Coming on the back of the hiding by the scousers and away at Fulham and Rooney’s hilarious throw back to the free kick of the ball. I genuinely thought that season WOULD be the dippers. They were on fire hammering teams 4 and 5 nil, Madrid included. I don’t mind admitting for the first time ever I kept a very close watch on their summer business as I thought one or two addditions and they would the real deal. Hilariously though the Fat Spanish Waiter sold Alonso AND Mascherano. Oh and what about that 4 goal haul by Arshavin in April that season. I enjoyed that season when I think about it.

  231. King Eric says:

    Sandeep – Good thanks pal. How are you? Yes its been a learning curve of a season for some players. For others one to truly forget.

    City will take QPR apart I feel sadly.

  232. Sandeep1878 says:

    how about Maxi Rodriguez solving our midfield problems? ;)

  233. King Eric says:

    Best line in that Alan Green article is this ”
    The City bench at St James Park had Edin Dzeko, Micah Richards, James Milner, Adam Johnson, Nigel de Jong and Alexandar Kolarov on it, all of them internationals. ”

    Oh what I would do to have any of them on the bench. Cunt.

  234. King Eric says:

    Oh and he also says they are gonna sign De Rossi. Spelt wrongly as was fucking Kolarov but I ammended it. What an amateur. Where has he heard they are getting De Rossi from? Prick.

  235. Sandeep1878 says:

    Slim,

    good to see you posting again mate,

    Hope Cyril, Fred, Zibster are reading this..

    ###

    King Eric,

    I m goo mate, thanks.

    Yup City will take them apart..

    It will be a high intensity game..i m expecting a red card :) ..

    If Sparky is going there with a DRAW game plan..then i m afraid they will hang on for 90 minutes..

    City know its the last hurdle they have jump and the cunts will be up to it..

    Only possibility i can hope is QPR scoring as late as possible..

    they havent won an away game since November…that’s a bad part to start with.,.

    Having said all this shit, they are battling to stay up..

    and a former red in charge, hope he instills that Belief in them to fight!!

    as Sir Alex put it, City are red hot favs, no doubt in it,

    Unless a former City Barton puts a through ball to former scouse Cisse to score the winner with a former RED celebrating on the touch line ;) talk of irony and it will be the mother of all :P .

    I m not pessimist, its time for us to look forward to 2013 season..

    we will be stronger…fitter…we will prevail the petro dollar cunts in the long run!!

  236. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Alan green and talkshite are a waste of fucking space. Complete crock of shite with ill supplied rumours, its like they read goal.com and regurgitate what they have ‘sourced’. Amateur cunts

  237. Mikekelly12 says:

    I think we all hoped for a miracle when a shite team went to the bridge year before last and conceded about 8! City will win 4-0 and the Poznan pricks will be jumping up and down for an hour n half. But who gives s fuck? They have to support city for the rest of their lives and we get to support Manchester United!!

  238. Sandeep1878 says:

    Sheringham: ‘There is a different atmosphere in the dressing room in a final day decider. United have to make sure they win their game at Sunderland but the onus is on Man City.
    ‘They have not won the league for a long time now and there will be a lot of pressure on them come Sunday afternoon and QPR have to get a point to make sure they are safe as well.
    ‘Mark Hughes going back to Manchester City has a double effect on that and he won’t want to lose there.”

  239. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening Legends – Giggsy 12 and M19ke!!

  240. iced earth says:

    shity are handing Roberto Mancini a new contract worth £22m
    Mancini’s four-year deal will make him the country’s best-paid boss, alongside sir Alex Ferguson.

  241. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Sandy

    Evening mate how are you doing pal?

    Mike RoM legend? Fuck me we just give out top status to anyone these days

  242. Ji Sung says:

    Did we use the ‘Ronaldo money’ to buy Young, DDG and Jones? Just asking

  243. Mikekelly12 says:

    Sandeep – evening pal
    Giggs12 – TalkShite took an article from the German paper ‘Bild’ and passed it off as their own regarding the Kagawa story!! Unscrupulous cunts!!

  244. CedarsDevil says:

    I have to come clean and say the truth……

    I actually watched the second half of the bitters win at Newcastle……. I promised my self that I won’t. Missed the first half and it was nil nil.

    Had I have missed it the game would have been a draw…..There you have it, its my fault we will not win the league

  245. Sandeep1878 says:

    Giggsy12,

    I m goo pal, thanks, hope you are well…

    well, there is a story behind this legend thing,

    only you 2 from ROM were not able to watch that James video,

    you both gotta be in that legend bracket ;) :P

    Ha ha ha…

    funniest thing was M19ke asking it to be sent through fax ;)

    file a complaint mate, we shall strip off M19ke from legendary status ;)

  246. Redbilly says:

    King Eric- good apart from being confronted by scouse singing blue moon

    Cedars – tata is awesome mate :-)

  247. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    you will be abducted until after the city game is over,

    sending ROM commandos, MG leading the Alfa group, Irish hero will head the charlie group..

    please note, ” its a catch, not a kill”

    now go out there commandos and get hold of these Lebanese king and bring his head to Glazers ;)

  248. Mikekelly12 says:

    Sandeep
    Don’t listen to Giggs12… He spends more time clay pigeon shooting on his farm then he does on RoM! You got it right first time fella.

  249. iced earth says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2141727/Arsenal-fan-wears-Spurs-shirt-outside-Emirates-Stadium.html
    very fuuny
    ath bilbao vs ath madrid martinez again a cb rarely played in the middel this year

  250. Mikekelly12 says:

    Cedars
    I forgive you!! Just close your eyes when they do that split screen shit and fly over to wastelands!!!

  251. iced earth says:

    what a goal by falcao

  252. ididnotzeeit says:

    Just being a little cynical here, but I actually rate Micah Richards……just saying.

    I rate Johnson quite highly too, but I’ll pick my battles :)

    If nothing else KE, we seem to agree on Nasri being a snivelly, cockmunching little tit. To think folks were clamoring for him last summer is appauling. Couldn’t be a better outfit than City to employ the Lilith Fair-Going, salad-tossing cunt. Well, the Renties I suppose. They do have Torres. Those two’d marry up nicely.

  253. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    haha clay pigeon shooting is all the rage plus you lot bore the shit out of me.

    Mike – it is mate talkshite always do that and rip off articles and pass across as their own. Fucking mediocre, I stopped listening to them years ago.

  254. James21 says:

    Giggs12
    RE M19ke :D nice one mate.

    Willie
    I see we’ve had a name change again.

  255. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    Cheers, I feel better now….Not sure I’ll forgive myself at throwing away the league though.

    Just hope Fergie down’t get wind of this…

    Sandy

    Best I took cover then eh? ha ha

  256. James21 says:

    Cedars
    No worries mate I watched it from behind a concrete block, couldn’t see jack shit.
    Then there was bloke who turned up, looking like he was about to kick off then started singing in a nice high pitched voice.

  257. Mikekelly12 says:

    Alright ankle biter, wind yer little neck in all you’ll be nutting knee caps!!

  258. WillieRedNut says:

    James – Multiple split personalities! ;)

  259. MG says:

    Sandeep

    The Best Quote?

    Forged with Watson The Red Knight will Rise

    Why doesn’t no one comment on my brilliant quote?

    Tut tut :lol:

    Where is the Papii when you need him?

    :lol: – Probably coming back to save Manchester from the impending doom that is BoobyMancBane :lol:

    :D

  260. Mikekelly12 says:

    Think I’ve just seen James run across the pitch in Bucharest.

    James – that bloke was awesome… A falsetto of the highest order!!! Let’s go Galaxt Let’s go!!!

  261. MG says:

    I rate Shelvey and Henderson – would have won the league hands down if we had them two

    :lol:

  262. James21 says:

    Willie
    Me ,Myself and Sachu.

    M19ke
    Now now. Why are you trying to get so drunk? :P

  263. Redbilly says:

    Teddy may have a point re decider day nerves. I refuse to throw in the towel. QPR win?. Even I doubt that unless city incur a red or two. Draw? Possible. City should hammer them but you just can’t say for certain.

    We are still in the race , will review my opinion at half time . We are , STILL champions :-)

  264. Voice of reason says:

    Albert no brainer who would u let go? Keep park keep berb keep owen keep kuzack keep msch – u serious? Ando? Rely on fletch to make it back – none if the above have contributed meaningfully this season

  265. James21 says:

    M19ke
    Those Swansea fans. ‘Is he one of ours or one of yours?’

    ‘He’s definately one of yours’

    How wrong we were. :D

  266. CedarsDevil says:

    Advice needed……… I am scratching my head trying to find someone to blame for our decline over the past 10 years.

    Owners? Sir Alex? Carrick? Afghanistan? Romeo & Juliet? Robert Redford?

    HELP

  267. MG says:

    This Summer

    The Red Knight Rises

    Starring Papii as Bruce Wayne

    Mancini as BobbyMancBane

    Cedars as Lucius Fox

    Watson as Alfred

    :lol:

    Everyone else will have to fill themselves in. :lol:

  268. Mikekelly12 says:

    James
    It’s those monster munch sambucas!! Gonna have to sort a RoM trip to Sandwich!!!

  269. James21 says:

    Cedars
    I blame it on the Bellboy. :)

  270. MG says:

    I’ll be Commissioner Gordon carrying on from my Sherlock role – there that’s that one sorted

    :lol:

    Cedars :lol:

    No comment I take the fifth though I’m not American

    :lol:

  271. ididnotzeeit says:

    @ Cedars

    Decade is tough, but if you’re looking for an immediate fix, Johnny Evans, Michael Carrick and apparently, now, Jones and Young are all available “goats.”

    Sorry couldn’t be of better help.

    When in doubt, defer to the gaffer, right?

  272. WillieRedNut says:

    The voice of treason!

  273. James21 says:

    M19ke
    I’ll get some sambuca in then, got plenty of Single Malt in.

  274. Mikekelly12 says:

    Redbilly
    As Giggs12 said time and again on Sunday, it’s the hope that kills ya!! City will take QPR apart on Sunday, no doubt about that. 1/9 on to win the league and the bookies (apart from that fucking Jinx Fred Done!!) don’t often get it wrong!

  275. MG says:

    Cedars

    In honour of Costas

    I blame it on the Medical Department

    :lol:

  276. MG says:

    I’m just hungry

    Too late to make kebabs will wait for tomorrow

    :lol:

  277. James21 says:

    I blame those Stewards hellbent on silencing our 12th man.

  278. Albert Ross says:

    Voice of reason

    I see you mentioned my name during your conversation with yourself.

    You asked who I would let go, answered the question for me, and then asked if I was serious!

    “Albert no brainer who would u let go? Keep park keep berb keep owen keep kuzack keep msch – u serious?

    Ha Ha Ha ! ! !

    Put answers in my mouth, then shred me for them! Carry on mate, you don’t need me.

  279. CedarsDevil says:

    ididnotzeeit

    Cheers mate, I see the light now. Evans is always an easy one, especially of late along with Young. I agree with the earlier bloody genius who said we should sell him…..Master plan that is. If Fergie ever read this blog he would pick up some numpties of the highest order!!

    MG

    Me likes that role, a step down though from my leads with Meryl Streep

  280. Mikekelly12 says:

    James
    Haha.. That was funny! When we heard what he was singing… Fuck, he’s one of ours Taff!! Sweet, I’ll bring the monster munch!!
    Cedars
    Blame it on the boogie!

  281. iced earth says:

    another one by falcao

  282. MG says:

    I blame The Glazer’s not introducing The Kebab Stall by Costas and MG

    :lol:

  283. James7t7 says:

    Wow Falcao 2 goals in Europa Lg against Bilbao…. Id sign him tonight!!!!

  284. Mikekelly12 says:

    Oh my god!!!! Why havent we signed Falcao??? Fucking Glazers!!!!

  285. CedarsDevil says:

    Was ordering take away for lunch today, I could swear the fella at the phone had a voice of shit, more like voice of bollocks actually

  286. Dazbomber says:

    Buster Duglas 25-1 to beat Tyson , Blackburn to beat United 9-1 , some times shit happens.

  287. Voice of reason says:

    Win our game – that’s all we can do – that won’t be easy particularly if bad news early from emptyhad -

  288. MG says:

    I would have signed him this morning making sure he wouldn’t have played tonight and scored all the goals on Sunday.

    :lol:

  289. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    Do not do that mate, I get all jumpy and start biting my lips and nails with excitement….

    Oh my god, oh my god, I hope we sign him

  290. WillieRedNut says:

    Lone voice in the dark…..

  291. James7t7 says:

    Ha Ha… sign him up for QPR you mean MG :D

  292. Mikekelly12 says:

    Oh I’d rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it………..
    Was singing it in the curry house on Sunday after the match, my birds mum wasn’t impressed!!!!

  293. MG says:

    Cedars

    :lol:

    I will find Meryl Streep a role mate don’t you worry

    Hows about Catwoman’s mum – Meowww :lol:

  294. Mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    She’d be beter in cedars vs cedars….

  295. James21 says:

    Whoever we sign must be totally awsum from day 1, Be totally immune to injuries, and must understand any dip in form will result in Himself, his family and all their friends be Tarred and feathered and run out of town without any chance to redeem himself.
    Not really much to ask, is it?

  296. James21 says:

    Cedars 20:23
    You Bitch. :D

    M19ke
    Was that her Mum? I thought she was her sister. :D

  297. Mikekelly12 says:

    Falcao wears an Alice band, there’s no fucking way on earth he’d be seen in tartan!!! Transfer is off!!! Larente however looks like he could wear a cardigan at weekends so could fit our transfer strategy nicely!

  298. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    Ha ha ha, you weren’t looking at your lady while singing it were you??

  299. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Just spat my brew all over me….

    Let’s go galaxy let’s go

    You would have had to see worsel gummage singing, his balls hadnt dropped and he looked homeless before he belted out Giggs will tear you apart.

    I thought it was James singing at first hahah

    Is he yours or ours the Swansea fans asked

  300. Redbilly says:

    Mikekelly- I know where your coming from , fath or stubbornness on my part I guess, though anomalies do occur :-) . We all expect that to happen but sometimes expectations hit the adamantine wall of reali

    Dazbomber- Sometimes shit does happen. And sometimes it’s good shit :-) .

    Until the final whistle they have won fuck all.

  301. MG says:

    James7t7

    Even better – loan him out for that match and then get him back for next season!

    :lol:

    Mike

    What about:

    Cedars and Meryl Streep in:

    The Devil wears Prada

    :lol:

  302. iced earth says:

    Falcao is class

  303. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    I heard MG typing my name like whisper in the wind. :lol:

    Remember these words whenever I am absent from RoM. 8)

    MG Gordon Jnr.: Why’s he running, Dad?
    Lt. MG Gordon: Because we have to chase him.

    MG Gordon Jnr.: He didn’t do anything wrong.

    Lt. MG Gordon: Because he’s the hero RoM deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll Hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero. He’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Red Knight.

    ;)

  304. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cheers M19ke and MG,

    cedars,

    yup you will need cover with aerial brilliance..

    I heard you have Vida’ number, if there was ever a time for warrior to have on your side for cover, its now..ring him and he will screw MG and Irish hero the commandos..;)

    Good night reds..

    RED dreams..

    United FTW..

    we will keep the RED flag flying high coz Man United will never die!!

  305. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    As i said to the boys and my fellow reds all last week its the hope that kills you.

    There is a reason QPR are fighting relegation, their shit.

  306. Mikekelly12 says:

    Cedars
    I was before she tried gagging me!
    James
    You smoothy you!!
    Giggs12
    Hahaha!! The bloke looked like he was gonna start a right dust up, then out broke Charlotte Church!!!

  307. TonyBee Watson says:

    When I was younger I had a He-Man figure, then I discovered Beer and Kebabs.

    —————————————————————————————————

    Women are like doner kebabs

    When you’re drunk you don’t mind having a large one no matter how it looks or tastes

    ————————————————————————————————-

    What have kebabs and pussy got in common?

    They both make your breath smell, the meat is always hanging out and you only fancy eating one when your fucking pissed!

  308. James21 says:

    Giggs12
    We’ll club together and get him a season ticket, at least he made noise and got the place singing.

  309. MG says:

    Reverse order

    Watson :lol:

    Night Sandeep

    Papii

    I love you man – that was pure pure class ;)

  310. James21 says:

    M19ke
    Charlotte Church :D

    ‘ Who put the ball in the German net, Owwy gunner Sowsker’ :D

  311. Albert Ross says:

    Gannet on a stick!

  312. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    James

    Haha no way he is sitting near me I would fucking hang myself.

    I can imagine him and King Erics mad mate busting out a vocal together

    In fact he reminded a little of Mike. That’s what I was worried about when I first met Mike in platts it would be some lunatic like that lol….definitely would have been swerved.

  313. James21 says:

    Giggs
    We’ll stick him in SAF Stand with KE and Alex. :D

  314. CedarsDevil says:

    TonyBee

    Absolutely bloody hilarious!

  315. CedarsDevil says:

    Really happy for Blackpool, all but in the final now…..

  316. Mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    Devil wears prada… Like it. How about Devil Drinks Archers!!
    Giggs12 – he looked like me but less denim and pin badges!! I hear he’s got first choice in the singing section!! Heaven forbid, he looks like the sort of bloke that would whip out his pork sword and crack one off over tier 2!!!

  317. Ji Sung says:

    Get rid of owen and berbatov and do WHATEVER is takes to bring Falcao to United! 2 more goals for him tonight. Standard. FERGIE SIGN HIM UP!

  318. James21 says:

    Spoke to soon Cedars. Was offside but Zigic would be offside if he was stood on his own goal line the Lanky bastard.

  319. Ji Sung says:

    Kock knock, who’s there…city. City WHO???? Lol

  320. MG says:

    Mike

    Cedars and Meryl Streep:

    Devil in a Blue Dress

    :lol:

  321. CedarsDevil says:

    James

    Ha ha, lanky bastard…loved it and so true p.s. Bitch is my middle name!!!

    Mike

    Need to add ‘chilled’ to that title!

  322. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Phil Jones is a BEAST. He will be a Great in time.
    As will De Gea, Smalling,Evans,Rafael,Cleverley,Welbeck, Chicha.

    If all goes well, these lot will give us 10+years and we’ll forget they day that anyone questioned them. Think about it Paul Scholes, Nevilles, Beckham and Giggs themselves felt the full wrath of critics and most of them didn’t show their full potential until 22 years old then started getting the limelight when Cantona left.

    Fergie will leave us in excellent hands. Personally I can’t wait to see these boys grow and develop in front of my eyes. It gives me a sense of pride too see their growth, whenever Welbeck scores I get bloody emotional after seeing him do so well in the reserves.

    I loved watching Fletcher, O’shea, Brown,Richardson,Rooney, Ronaldo and partly Rio grow up with us, most went from Hopeless to Darlings, Idiots to Geniuses and ugly to Beautiful (Ron).

    :lol:

  323. CedarsDevil says:

    I did speak too soon James, 2-2 now!!

  324. James21 says:

    Cedars
    I want whoever goes through to beat West ham.

  325. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Mike

    Less denim? He looked like he gang raped bros and shaking Stevens and stole their threads.

    Prefer Birmingham to go through as tom ince plays for Blackpool and his dad is a cunt. Guvnor my fucking arse

  326. Ji Sung says:

    Cheer up fellas…if we don’t win the league this season, we can always say we beat Barcelona and rightly so…a Michael Owen winner as well. Great season ;)

  327. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Can someone explain why United fans are backing Blackpool? They finished the lowest of the playoff teams and then there is the issue of having to listen to another year of Ian Holloway in interviews.

    Give me strength!

  328. Mikekelly12 says:

    Fletch
    Prefer Blackpool to those happy fucking hammers!!! Blow ya bubbles up your ass!!! Plus vas te’s hair cut is shit!!!

  329. Mikekelly12 says:

    Ji Sung
    If????

  330. James21 says:

    Fletch
    Sorry? Why shouldn’t we want Blackpool to go through, is it some vendetta Utd fans have against them that I’m unaware of. Rules are rules and all the teams are aware of the playoffs at the start of the season, weather we agree with playoffs or not. Ian Holloway stood up and spoke out against Rooney during ambitiongate and praised SAF.

  331. Tc says:

    So can we all stop bumming athletic club bilbaos players now? It seems we should sign everybody who beats us according to many, even Fellani!!! But I suppose now fergie should spend half a billion and buy atletico madrids midfield??

  332. Mikekelly12 says:

    Breaking News
    City have just bid £800m for Falcao. They’re using the £850m sponsor money paid by Blue Burger Bar Van parked outside wastelands!!

  333. UNITED4Life says:

    @FletchTHEMAN

    because they play good football…

  334. CedarsDevil says:

    I am for Blackpool as well, personally I really like Holloway……Cracks me up and more times than most says it like it is

  335. James7t7 says:

    HUGHESY!! HUGHESY!! HUGHESY!! HUGHESY!! HUGHESY!!

    oh them were the days in the scoreboard paddock!!

    After that last min season saver in the FA Cup semi final…. whats the odds for a last minute saver in the title race???

    Cue reminder:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=057hr_gM7YU

  336. TonyBee Watson says:

    Agree about Blackpool and Holloway Cedars….

    he talks bollocks some of the time …..but entertaining bollocks

  337. Mikekelly12 says:

    Tc
    Doesn’t make them shit because they lost a final. Some quality players and majority still very young with huge potential.

  338. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    I am crying with and for Iker Munian :cry: Heartbreaking for such a young team :(

    There is only one response to this kind of defeat by Manchester United.

    We should sign Javi Martinez, Iker Munian and Llorente for a £90m package deal, then Buy Jordi Alba for £15m plus a £7m Kagawa. Then we can challenge City for the League.

    Imagine it;

    ——————-De Gea—————
    Rafael —Smalling—- -Vidic— Alba
    ———Martinez ——–Carrick———
    ————————Munain————-
    Kagawa——————-Rooney———-
    —————-Llorente————————-

    :P

  339. WillieRedNut says:

    Heard Liverpool are in for Bassong? King Kenny should be able to get tune out of him.

  340. MG says:

    I like the fish and chips in Blackpool – so much so that its been more than 25 years since I went there

    :lol:

    But I love Holloway – never forget him sticking up for SAF after what the press were doing to us during the Rooney affair

  341. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Give me Blackpool over the football academy everyday of the week. Deluded cunts and what an horrible set of fans, wannabe hoolies

  342. TonyBee Watson says:

    willie you fool…. :lol:

  343. WillieRedNut says:

    I’m for Blackpool too. Who doesn’t love roller coasters and candy floss!

  344. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Just seems like the lot of you are closet seasider fans and trying to figure if there is some link.
    Craig Cathcart came through our youth system and I always like our lads to do well, but overall
    not to much interested.

    To each their own.

  345. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Willie, Ahhhaaaa! New there was a reason :lol:

  346. CedarsDevil says:

    Fletch

    I am a closet single malt drinker……At least I think I am !!

  347. TonyBee Watson says:

    Following Blackburn’s relegation the Venky’s have decided to retain Steve Kean in an advisory capacity position:

    ….from tomorrow the useless cunts new role will involve riding a bike around Mumbai selling frozen chickens.

  348. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Also, Another team in orange.

    Barcelona, Chelsea …………>>>> Blackpool? Oi me! ;)

  349. Mikekelly12 says:

    Blackpool a good away day too!!!

  350. MG says:

    Willie

    Roller coasters and MG don’t work especially after the bloody vertigo I’m going through today!

    As for candy floss – Mrs MG loves that stuff!

    Anything else in Blackpool?

    Oh wait Ian Holloway :lol:

  351. Tc says:

    @Mike kelly didn’t mean to critiscise the players as such more so many people’s reactions to signing any player that has a decent game against us. I do love transfer season ;p

  352. MG says:

    Watson

    You mean Chicken Dabas (lunch boxes)

    :lol:

  353. Mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    There’s a boozer called the Mancunian that has strippers on during the day!!

  354. Ji Sung says:

    @ clint – what world are u living in pal????

  355. James21 says:

    Cedars
    You came out of the closit with the Vibrator comment. :D

  356. Mikekelly12 says:

    Tc
    Yeah, there are often overreactions but I think with these players some comments were justified. 3 or 4 cracking players.

  357. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Tc

    -Wigan beat us and I definitely don’t want Maloney
    - I don’t want any Basel players
    - I don’t want any Benfica players
    - I defo don’t want any city players
    - I really don’t want any Blackburn players
    - I couldn’t think of anything worse than getting a Liverpool player.

    I don’t think its when any team beat us :-)

  358. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    I’m in love with Bilbao and their fans.

    Success is welcomed by all, but a lot is sacrificed for the prize, but bit by bit identity is lost and is replaced by manufactured loyalty…to winning and not the club.

    I’d love to see our club to have the same kind of family feeling and love Bilbao and turkish clubs have, their club is their world.

    Its inevitable that the mighty will fall someday, on that day when I’m 70 or so the Manchester United Heart will beat strongly with the real fans & I as its blood.

  359. WillieRedNut says:

    MG – Donkey rides? :D

  360. CedarsDevil says:

    James

    Guess my secret’s out then!! Still have a few closets to open though!

    Papii

    Ever been to a Turkish prison mate? Very family like atmosphere!! ha ha ha

  361. Mikekelly12 says:

    Giggs12
    Fuck off, you’d take Spearing in a heart beat!!!

  362. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    @Ji Sung

    I’m living in Wayne’s World, how about you?

    FUCK THE FREE WORLD :twisted:

  363. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Oh shit I forgot about no neck, your right we need a bell ringer I’d take him.

  364. James21 says:

    Giggs12
    Got to say it does seam that when a team beats Utd that some, not all ,scream for us to sign either the goal scorer or the player that plays well.
    Thank fuck Heskey is shit.

  365. iced earth says:

    lorente is over-rated berba better then him easily only player that impresed me is Munain,but i think gaitan is a done deal as well kagawa we need the like of martinez but it don t seem likely,

  366. James21 says:

    Is it Sigurdsson that SAF is looking at? On loan at Swansea atm.

  367. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Fuck it homies….

    lets go out and get Cech Tiote ! 8) He can be our first african since Manucho Goncalves……………..WHO!!!

    :lol:

  368. philco says:

    Talking of transfers, whatever happened to that kid from eyeaxe. Or does he not count cause we beat them….

  369. MG says:

    Mike

    :lol:

    Let’s go! Mind you’ve got school I’ve got school – damn- the greater need of the future needs precedence :lol:

    Willie

    :lol:

    Blackpool rock too mate!

  370. Ji Sung says:

    @ clint – fourth. Fortune, Djemba djemba, Diouf…

  371. samuel - united WE stand says:

    James21 – did FERGIE not go out immediately for Ronaldo after one game in which he battered united while playing for sporting?

  372. James21 says:

    Ji sung
    Think you might find we signed Fortune and Djemba x2 before Manucho ,Diouf was the last.

  373. James21 says:

    Sam
    The players who just played against Sporting said to SAF to sign him. Why?

  374. WillieRedNut says:

    Myth Sammy. It is true we signed him after that game, but Fergie said we’d been watching him for a year. United moved there and then, because other teams were sniffing around.

  375. WeAreUnited says:

    Clint-Iamyourpapii

    I am with you on some points,

    We should sign Javi Martinez, Iker Munian. I wouldn’t buy Llorente or Jordi Alba, Alba hasn’t impressed me, lollerente is good. IF we could why not, but i wouldn”t go for Llorente,

    Kagawa yes cause it’s time for mister battery 24/7 half legend Park to step down and another Asian superstar to join.

    i am no Sir Alex, but maybe?

    ——————-De Gea (Lindegaard)—————
    Rafael —Smalling (Jones)—- -Vidic (Evans)— Evra (somebody else to cover? Baines?)
    ———Martinez ——–Carrick (Pogba if stays) (Fletcher) (Tunnicliffe, Norwood?)———
    ————————Kagawa (Anderson, Cleverley) (petrucci) (SCHOLES? half part)————-
    Nani (Valencia)——————-Muniain (Hazard) (Young) (Giggs, half part)———-
    —————Rooney (Chicha and Welbeck) (Maybe somebody else?)————————-

    Of course we have to take young blood, but seriously, if all superteams invests, maybe it is our time also, it’s not plastic, it’s building a team.

    It is only speculating also, I will always back my team, it doesn’t matter are we 10th or first. We Are UNITED.

  376. WeAreUnited says:

    Sorry for second post, but I forgot Ferdinand the BOSS who would be as a backup for youngsters.

  377. WeAreUnited says:

    3rd post, I mean we should go for either Muniain or hazard.

    spamming hahah

  378. James7t7 says:

    WeAreUnited…. Id remove Welbeck for starters..

  379. samuel - united WE stand says:

    I wouldn’t recommend buying all athletic bilbao players but you would have be in denial if you can’t witness that they do possess technical qualities, mostly in midfield. Munain is the stand-out, low centre of gravity, pace, invention and creativity, determined and scores goals. Would easily improve united, add martinez as wel but i think you need more than one or two player for that and iker would cost an absolute bomb anyway. No chance, he’ll be off to fc barcelona soon enough.

  380. Mikekelly12 says:

    Martinez will go to Barca or Real.

  381. James21 says:

    Willie
    Not true then. I know Arse said they could have signed him a year before.

  382. James7t7 says:

    Who’s Martinez???? Wheres Neymar??? Id break the bank for that dude

  383. WillieRedNut says:

    James – The whinger is still smarting over that one. :D

  384. samuel - united WE stand says:

    James21 – i was just making a point after you said we shouldn’t buy players that perform well against united. If the manager has been monitoring the players and they play brilliantly against united or maybe a player has been a hidden jewel but impresses in a game and FERGIE feels the opportunity to sign him won’t come twice, shouldn’t he take the risk?.

    Willie – fair enough, i didn’t realise that. I think arsenal must be banging their head on the wall when cristiano was offered and they rejected. Football is about risk or you’re stuck in a pragmatic mentality.

  385. MG says:

    Sorry I am the Football Manager master

    :lol:

    And James the FIFA 12 one

    Together we rule :lol:

    Goodnight Manchester United

    Forged with Watson The Red Knight will Rise

    :lol:

  386. James21 says:

    Sam. Think you’ve missread my post. It never suggests anything of the sort mate.

    Got to say it does seam that when a team beats Utd that some, not all ,scream for us to sign either the goal scorer or the player that plays well.

  387. Redbilly says:

    Blackpool for me too .

  388. Costas says:

    Speaking of buying players that played well against us, Denton hasn’t pimped Moses in a while has he? :P

  389. samuel - united WE stand says:

    James21 – fair point, especially fellaini. If that guy can improve united then i’ve seen goats do the conga.

    I read some article saying he could be United’s yaya toure. Granted the belgian excels in certain areas (physical prowess, aerial ability and scores his fair share) but he’s limited in many. Good player but won’t better what united have and that’s exactly what FERGIE continues to bang on about.

  390. James7t7 says:

    Whats the odds on a Macheda goal on sunday….and Fergie stating the Masterplan again ;)

  391. Ji Sung says:

    Ashley Ashley Young!!!!!!! What a fukin buy!!!!!! Still can’t believe he’s a United player.

  392. Costas says:

    @James7t7

    That would be great but Kiko has left QPR. He’s out until the end of the season with an injury.

    But, Cisse will start and we are due a Cisse goal against City this week…

  393. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Surely it’s a myth that mark hughes had thighs comparable to tree trunks whilst playing?. I’d believe that if djibril cisse avoids a red card, gets a hat-trick and clears off the line if the game remains nil nil, it definitely won’t happen but one can dream.

  394. CedarsDevil says:

    I really miss Zibbie, just hope he’s ok

    Laters fellas

  395. James7t7 says:

    oh bugger… didnt relaise that…. agree with you on Cisse one… The geordie one was Pa Piss Poor last week!!

  396. James21 says:

    Sam
    The Papers are the same every season linking Utd with every man and his dog, but some fans don’t half leap on the bandwagon when a certain player is mentioned. We don’t sign many players we get linked with.

  397. Costas says:

    Seems like Jones will have to return to his roots on Sunday:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2142053/Manchester-United-fear-Jonny-Evans-require-surgery-injured-ankle.html

    Smalling’s injury could also rule him out. Good thing there’s only one game left. One more week of the season left and Carrick would have to play at CB again.

  398. Costas says:

    @James7t7

    Lol, he sure was! The Chelsea game took a lot out of them. A lucky break for City in that regard.

  399. James21 says:

    Right thats me done.
    Later Reds.

    Cedars
    I haven’t seen Zibbie either ,the Roo Nutter. I hope all’s well too.

  400. Ji Sung says:

    There have been some amazing moments this season in the league. DDG, Valencia, Rooney, Nani, Young, Welbz, Carrick, Rio, Scholes have been the standout performers for me. Proud of the lads no matter what happens on Sunday.

  401. James7t7 says:

    @Costas

    Yeah… that’s shitty rescheduling… although I think the Arsenal draw didnt help either as should they lose they get a 2nd shot at it

  402. iced earth says:

    sir alex are searching player that will not coast us to much instead going for modric he got kagawa,not a bad busnies from my point of view, i can t see us buying player who will cost us more then £20,we want player like martinez witsel or tiote but the value is the problem for sure sir alex have another option like rodwel,(good player but injury prone)

  403. samuel - united WE stand says:

    James21 – I agree. I think most players raise their games to another level when united turn up, it’s understandable and that can mask a player’s real ability. What you want is consistent quality players, not one for just a single game.

    united can’t buy everyone but i’m sure when quality players are spotted, the club will try its utmost best to capture them.

  404. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Costas,
    Just reading that article on Evans. Gibbos revenge?! :(

  405. Wakey says:

    @Voice of Reason

    It’s not a case of keeping people around for the sake of it. It’s a case of building the right squad and that doesn’t mean just signing a bunch of new superstars. This is the problem with so many fans, they think they are playing Fantasy Football where squad harmony doesn’t matter but in real life squad harmony is vital.  

    You also have to take into account that players may not hit the ground running, especially if any of the following are true
    1) They were playing at a ‘small’ club
    2) They were playing in a weaker league
    3) They were playing in a slower, less physical league
    4) They were playing abroad
    5) They are young and are unproven
    6) They don’t speak English

    Many players for the above reasons take time to settle be it a few months or even a couple of years and would you really want to gamble on 6 new midfielders when a couple would do this season with perhaps more the season after if needed after the first couple have settled and established themselves.  I  know the likes of Ando haven’t been a complete successand Giggs/Park aren’t the players they were but are useful squad players that can do a job.

    Its why Madrid have struggled to win with their galeticos strategy or why City with all their spending have really under archived because they have just wanted the best and have ignored harmony and have hence underachieved (Real actually had a fairly light transfer activity last year and it’s no surprise that a settled squad has seen them perform much better)

  406. Costas says:

    @Fletch

    Probably. Evans did miss the biggest game of the season afterwards. And the irony is that they are best of friends.

    Speaking of old friends, it will be very weird to see O’Shea line up against us on Sunday. It’s his first game against United.

  407. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @Wakey,
    Preaching to the choir mate. Wish we could ban the footy manager / FIFA2012 posts.
    Would save us all alot of time.

  408. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Breaking: Mexico Coach says that Sir Alex will not allow Chicharito to join the national team for the Olympics.

  409. Léon says:

    Yeah we need to sign a couple of true stars, that’s a fact, and I won’t go there.

    But to all the doubters; the guy’s got all the potential to captain the team in the future, just find a real RB, and start him in CB, and it’ll all work out.

  410. dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:

    concerning signings. Taking into account fergie’s “two to three” player summer, In my opinion if we sign kagawa, we should NOT sign Hazard. they play in the same EXACT position. AMF and both are excellent wingers too. why waste money on two players playing the SAME position when we have othe areas to think about?

    So lets say we sign Kagawa, we should go for a PROPER central midfielder. eg. modric or Gundogan or even Mario Suarez. someone in the mould of a david silva box to box kind of midfielder not yet ANOTHER sitting midfielder. we should not sign Javi Martinez cuz he plays the same position as Carrick.

    The final signing is a toss up between a Left back or a legit forward. I say thia because berbatov WILL be sold and welbeck has no issues with being an understudy to a true world class striking pair. This is where fergie could now make the decision to go all in for a hazard or a baines or a cissoko or another difference making centre forward to pair up with Wayne.

  411. denton davey says:

    Athletic Bilbao who looked awesome tonking UTD, were themselves tonked by Athletico Madrid, the serial under-achievers of La Liga. Go figure – maybe Muniain, Llorente, and Martinez have feet of clay.

  412. kev e says:

    @Ji Sung. Proud of the lads – I’m with you there. Gutted if City win it but we’re still pushing them as hard as any other team that have swiped OUR trophy from under our noses. Reckon you missed Johnny Boy off the list though!

    On another note I don’t know if he’ll end up at United but liking the sound of Kagawa more and more. Really good article about him in the MEN on Newsnow. Journo in Germany who has watched him grow only got good things to say about him, and talks about he will fit into United’s quick game. Interesting.

  413. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Seeing as some believed in my £90m package, I’d like to make it clear, I was joking.
    Apologies to any replies to my post because some of you put the effort into reply to a post you never interpreted as a joke. :oops:

    Very sorry, thought people would get the joke alone on the fact that we’d have to spend £100m this summer to catch up to “we won it on GD…Shitty FC = £1 bn” ).

    ….Anywho ! I’m going to be honest now, don’t expect a “special” signing.

    I expect us to sell either Berba or Owen (neither can live while the other survives)
    and perhaps sell Park, along with Kusszack….
    with Fabio and Amos out on loan and Macheda staying with the club as a spare man.

    SAF will again look to Cleverley and Anderson, Along with Carrick and Scholes as the senior citizens. Giggs will again do his bit part role. Due to the uncertainty around Fletch, Ando and Pogba, we’ll probably make the ONE SIGNING in central midfield.

    A SIGNING to replace Park(?) Kagawa is the favourite at £7m.
    A Defensive signing (We tried to sign Varane) maybe a Left Back or Ritchie De Laet / Zeki Fryers will get an opportunity.

    A Central midfielder will be signed for sure :roll: , we’ll bid for Modric, Javi Garcia etc FAIL then We’ll probably end up with either Pogba,Tunniclife,Petrucci or Vesseli.

    However the likes of Hamsik and Sneijder will not be playing CL football, so something could be going down in Italy, Sahin of Real Madrid is for Sale as is Seydou Keita (Quality) of Barca are likely bargain buys, although we are priced out of the Goetze’s and Swinesteigers of the world our hat might be thrown into the Ganso / Lucas (Santos) mix.

    You never know ! :P
    I predict us to spend roughly £35m this summer £40m tops, 2 or 3 signing don’t cost much especially when you have a £25m annual budget plus coins from sales and begging (the Glazers).

    Well thats my two cents (or United’s….broke ass devils) :lol:

  414. Sandeep1878 says:

    Morning reds around the world,

  415. Marq says:

    @Denton

    You got the wrong post, Manny said we need 2-3, not me, lol.

    I believe we need 1 starter & perhaps 1 backup in case Cleverley & Anderson sleep in the treatment table again. And to me Kagawa seems to be that backup.

    Btw, to all posters. Please don’t feed the obvious trolls =p

  416. zigoo says:

    On a moee humourous note

    Jonesy def gotts get back to school ‘ if they told me…..id have snapped there hands off’

    Haha bless him,am guessing he meant offered me…

    Shame bilbao lost tonight,really enjoy there pass and move game..although the 2 cms of madrid impressed me greatly..especially gabi

  417. Sandeep1878 says:

    The story behind our new kit,

    “In 1878, Manchester was at the heart of the industrial revolution. Steel factories and cotton mills dominated the skyline. This was the year England’s most successful team was born. 134 years on, Manchester United celebrates its proud heritage by launching the “Gingham Collection.”

  418. FootballPakistan.Com says:

    Off-topic:

    Atletico Madrid made Athletic Bilbao look ordinary in the Europa League final last night. They played fast and aggressive, not allowing Bilbao to settle in, and tore them apart.

    United should learn too.

  419. Jeet says:

    Morning, Sandeep :)

  420. Albert Ross says:

    Day, Jeet.

  421. Sandeep1878 says:

    Noon Rossi,

    Afternoon Jeet

    ;)

  422. Jeet says:

    Good day, AR…slow news, eh?

    I’ve been feeling misrebale with a bad cold & congestion and didn’t watch the EL final yesterday…wnt off to bed. Seems like I missed a cracker?

  423. Jeet says:

    *miserable :(

  424. Albert Ross says:

    Dawn SerendipitousSandeep!

    Jeet – slow it is. I didn’t watch last night either.

    Football doesn’t excite me, I’m only interested in the transfer window.
    Do you think there’s any chance of replacing the entire squad?

    I’m all a-tremor just thinking about it!

  425. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Why are United of all teams linked with Leigton Baines?
    He’s no Gary Neville and no Patrice.

    He’s well suited at a team like Everton or Spurs or Arsenal etc. Don’t see any truth in the rumour its just made up rumours.

  426. Marq says:

    Well, you couldn’t say Bilbao didn’t turn up. I think a more logical evaluation is that Atletico showed why Bilbao is a mid table team. Yes they had 2 good games against us, but it was more of a combination of them playing the game of their life and us being horribly poor

  427. Jeet says:

    Actually, I don’t mind transfer talk, speculation/gossip….bit of playing the armchair tactician/pundit :)

    But I just totally hate it when people say things like “Sell half the squad, bring in in SIX midfielders”, “Sell Young”, “Jones is useless”, etc. That really pisses me off….

    Speaking of tremors, I have been informed by our Lebanese friend that he is not in the habit of placing the vibrator under his couch. No, that was a typo – it was under his pouch ;)

  428. Albert Ross says:

    Live if you want to live
    United vibration yeah! Positive
    I and I vibration yeah! Positive
    I a man iration yeah! Irie ites
    Positive vibration yeah! United!

    If you get down and complain everyday
    You’re saying prayers against the Devils, I say
    Why not help one another on the way?
    Make it much easier

    Say you just can’t live that negative way
    You know what I mean
    Make way for the positive day
    Cause it’s a new day
    New time, new feeling yeah!
    Say it’s a new sign
    Oh what a new day.

  429. Ji Sung says:

    Oh ye and Evans as well. He’s had a great season no doubt about it. My best moment was seeing him play a scholes esque 40 yard pass to Valencia @ Wolves I think it was and AntoV25 ran and smashed the ball into the back of the net. What a pass Jonny lad!!!

  430. lordrt says:

    @kanchelskis:
    Given that Rio is more injury-prone these days, it is obvious that next season his playtime will reduce, and with Vidic back, it will be difficult to choose between Evans and Jones as his CD partner, but I think may be be SAF should change Jones’ role, play him as a CDM instead, but like I said, he needs to work on the passes and crossing to supply upfront…

  431. Albert Ross says:

    I also don’t mind transfer talk, speculation/gossip, a bit of playing the armchair tactician/pundit.

    It’s the lies that I can’t allow to pass uncorrected.
    Lies like: “Nani is useless” , “Scholes is past it” , “Rene and Mick are crap” , ” Feg is selfish”

    Any point made will be more effective if it’s not couched in lies for effect.
    It makes the point seem weak, because it needs lies to make it seem true.

    Of course, when these lies are pointed at, they are not corrected.
    They are defended bitterly, while the right to free speech is indignantly exclaimed.
    Freedom of speech is not = freedom to lie.

    It’s not long before angry shouts are heard: “Don’t be childish, I’m a Red, don’t talk to me!”

    Actually, I’m a Red too, and I don’t need to lie about United.

  432. Dazbomber says:

    This will cheer CedarsDevil , newsnow ManUnited reporting we are after RVP

  433. vince says:

    the last red standing. we will be champions sunday. anyone want to bet? #20

  434. Redbilly says:

    Dazbomber- bet cedars has sweaty palms just thinking about it . RVP in red scoring a hat trick v bitters in the title decider next season :-)

  435. Albert Ross says:

    I think Jones has shown the ability to make telling passes and crosses.

    I feel that this aspect of his game degenerated after his spell of frequent injuries.
    This makes me think that he may have lost a little confidence in his own physique.
    I do not think that is the main reason for his apparently diminished passing ability.

    Jones thrives in high-tempo conditions. Early in the season we took games by the scruff of the neck, and he was integral to that. Winning 50/50 balls every time, and making great diagonal passes on the floor through the midfield, always done in an instant – high tempo passes. Intercept/tackle, and immediately make a telling pass. He even managed many final-third entries, which is a critical part of football, and among the most relevant stats considered.

    After we lost at home to city, we went on a typical recovery run, focussing on not conceding the silly goals we had done. We slowed the game down. Especially once Scholes returned, control of the football overtook the one-touch rapid-fire high-tempo football we were trying to play. Jones instinctively wants to play the right pass, and quickly. He was forced to stop and think, to be more cautious, to let Paul and Mike create openings.

    Combining the slowing of our tempo with Jones’ intermittent starts due to injury, led to unsure performances that stuttered as he wasn’t being natural any more. This is the normal learning curve one expects from a new kid on the United block. The skills are there. He can and does make great passes. This will soon be obvious once again.

    Compare Jones with Young:
    - A great start at United, lethal on attack.
    - Defensive frailty quickly became a problem, as Evra is also expected to attack.
    - Young’s offensive game stagnated, as he learnt to adapt to his defensive duties
    - As Young became far more effective helping Patrice defend, his attacking game returned.

    Phil Jones is a superstar in the making, no doubt.

  436. iced earth says:

    Morning everyone
    “His form last season was fantastic,” the United boss said. “He’s found the second year more difficult, but a lot of that is down to not having a summer break for three years and playing every summer for his country.”Next year he will be fine as we have agreed with the Mexican Football Association that he is going to get the requisite rest that he needs to perform in the Premier League.”sir alex
    hope chicharito will rediscover his form

  437. iced earth says:

    Anton Ferdinand said: “Rio’s been on the phone asking for a favour.
    “If we do get a result and United and Rio go on to win the title, then I will be chuffed for him.

  438. Dazbomber says:

    Redbilly- I would be the same he is Quality.,

  439. MG says:

    Robin Van Cedars?

    No problem like father like son.

    :lol:

    Morning United ;)

  440. Dazbomber says:

    MG- Robin Van Red Devil

  441. MG says:

    Dazbomber

    I did say this to Cedars about a month ago – a very good friend of my brothers who works at Arsenal – I won’t say who – told him that if United came calling RVP would go – wouldn’t even bother with city Juve etc

    Should be fun then – ;)

  442. Passe says:

    So we are on the brink of a defensive injury crisis again? Seriously when are the management going to have a look at it? You would think that they are but how many seasons are we just going to blame it on freak injuries and bad luck? FFS we played relatively few games this season compared to other seasons, yet our players are always injured.

    Also, RVP will never ever be a United player.

  443. Jeet says:

    @MG: You forgot to add “You heard it here first” :lol:

  444. Dazbomber says:

    MG-you would have to be crazy not to want him in your team

  445. Red Tash says:

    The season is not over, yet ROM is already gripped with Transfer Speculation Overdrive.It will be an interesting 3 months when we are linked with every man and his dog.Good thing is that we have a new kit that ‘might’ just deflect all this talk.

  446. MG says:

    Jeet

    Yeah but you know mate players change there minds don’t they – being polemic and all and knowing that only God knows

    :lol:

    I’ll say it was a serious discussion as my brother put it – but it all has to be taken with a pinch of salt – at the end he’s 28 – same situation as Berba – only thing is he wouldn’t go for 30 odd million if he’s going.

    What you can’t deny is that he’d be a brilliant signing – what you can deny is that nothing has happened yet.

    ;)

    But to have the son of Cedars at OT?

    :lol:

  447. MG says:

    Dazbomber

    I agree – of course there is a Cedars factor in it as well

    :lol:

  448. MG says:

    Talking about the new kit…

    :lol:

  449. Jeet says:

    Nothing else to say but :lol:

  450. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening reds,

    MG- hello mate,

    You know lot of Hindi words and bollywood stuff!!

    where you from?

    that is decent enough enough knowledge about India for a foreigner ;)

    ###

    Robin Van Cedars won’t play for us..

    ###

    Papii,

    Hello mate..

    Evra was not the evra before he joined us..

    Not telling Baines is a great player..

    You never know when the players step up when they join us..

    you will need no examples, we have plenty..

    so i cant be disappointed if we are linked with Baines, he is a decent player, not in the best category, but certainly room for improvement and has potential IMO..

    I think the PL experience will be a key when we sign a left back..

  451. Red Tash says:

    MG
    Yep and the imminent signings aka Neymar,Messi,E banks Blake,Fellaini,Rivaldo and of course the evergreen Nzonzi.

  452. Redbilly says:

    Dazbomber- he is. Fergie will sign RVP and bastian the beast of bayern. Fuck , that Would make the press. Personally I Wouk forgoe

  453. Redbilly says:

    Dazbomber- he is. Fergie will sign RVP and bastian the beast of bayern. Fuck , that Would make the press. Personally I Wouk forgoe the edge on talent for some real hard bastards bastian et al

  454. Redbilly says:

    Love being a red. Adversity and disappointment really brings it home . An amazing club , values history people . We are lucky.

  455. Redbilly says:

    Prior to signing RVP. can SAF ensure a cardiac response team is on call to perform cardiac version on cedars. :-)

  456. MG says:

    Sandeep?

    Me?

    I’m from England mate!

    :lol:

    The only Bollywood stuff I know is everything pre 90′s after that I have no idea – The old stuff is the best stuff

    These days I’m too busy writing my own screenplays – not Indian ones though lol wouldn’t know where to begin!

    :lol:

  457. Redbilly says:

    Sandeep – my GF is of punjabi origin. Food to die for mate . Never visit a curry house these days , home cooked is. Vastly superior . ‘ none of that gora shite for me :-)

  458. WeAreUnited says:

    I don’t understand, why people say we should always after the players who plays good against us. NO. It’s not the case, not for me. It’s about knowledging talent.

    If barcelona, real, bayer and say Milan and all other superteams wants to buy for example Muniain or let’s say Hazard, can we say that they are blind and stupid? OR are we? if 5 of top 5 teams wants to get a certain player, maybe there is something into it??

    of course we maybe don’t have the power to buy, but it’s not like others are stupid for buying SUPERPLAYERS and winning?

    spending is not always the options, but when you have great players infront of you, you gotta do something. Or should we mmiss the opportunity and stick with decent players who aren’t United bound.

    barca bought fabregas and Sanchez -> crazy right? won nothing OR?= bayern bought 1-3years ago? robben and ribery and gomez–>crazy? real bought Ronaldo, Özil, benzema, di maria->crazy, Milan->Zlatan-> crazy? ManUtd -> Young ->Crazy? I acknowledge tha we reached the finals and won the league for the 19th time, but yesterday was yesterday.

    not saying we should splash, but if certain teams makes their team stronger, why should stay the same? if we stay then we just ned to stick with the team and hope that maybe Sir Alex knows it all.

  459. CedarsDevil says:

    Redbilly / MG / Dazbomber

    Cheers for talking up my son fellas……..Cannot see it happening to be honest but if it did, bloody hell, what a player we would have on our books and as Redbilly says I would need emergency help from cardiac failure!! ha ha

  460. CedarsDevil says:

    Redbilly

    We are indeed lucky mate, some do not realize what a blessing it is to be associated with United

  461. denton davey says:

    Marq @ 03:04: “I believe we need 1 starter & perhaps 1 backup in case Cleverley & Anderson sleep in the treatment table again. And to me Kagawa seems to be that backup.”

    First, let me apologize if I misquoted you earlier.

    BUT, second, are you serious – “Kagawa seems to be that backup” ?

    I know that UTD fans always over-rate their own players – doesn’t everyone ? – but are you suggesting that Shinji Kagawa who was a full-time starter for the back-to-back Bundesliga winners will be signed to back up YoungTom who (like Anderson) seems to be injury-prone and – perhaps unfairly – can be said to have flattered-to-deceive in his few starting assignments for UTD ?

  462. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening reds around the world,

    MG – share your screen plays when done mate, good luck.

    Redbilly – you lucky bastard ;) yeah Punjabi girls are gorgeous, good at cooking, stylish and modern..:)

    Cedars – will you stop with your son?

    He cant even score a penalty against 20 year old rookie goalie ;)

    and you want him at United? are u outta your mind? :P

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