Phil Jones played his first game for United since the final day of last season against Sunderland. Whilst disappointed with the result, Jones was happy to get some playing time after such a lengthy period on the sidelines.
“I’m knackered to be honest,” he admitted. “It wasn’t the best of pitches to play on either. It was quite heavy on the legs but I’m delighted to get through 90 minutes. I’m buzzing about that. It’s been difficult. I’ve had my downs. I picked up a few niggles and had surgery on my knee so I’ve had a pretty wretched four or five months. I’ve been in the gym every day and it’s not easy. I had to concentrate on getting myself fit and worked quite hard to get to where I am now so I’m just delighted to be back. I’ll feel stiff on Wednesday but everything is fine. Hopefully I can push on now, get back in the team and prove why I should be here.”
Jones was disappointed that United conceded from a corner and blames them falling asleep.
“We should have switched on and dealt with the corner,” he added. “We shouldn’t be getting punished on set-pieces. It’s happened and we still had chances to go on and draw, if not win, but it just wasn’t our night. There were a lot of positives. We controlled a lot of the play – we were lacking a bit with the final cross or final ball and perhaps should have finished it off. But I think we were a bit unfortunate.”
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Great to have him back!
First game in more than 6 months. Nice to have him back.
marvellous to have him back. Between smalling, evans and jones we have a great core for central defense. We need them relatively injury free and form a partnership for years.
Good luck Phil.
Well I’m all the more glad that he’s playing again, need our defenders!
I know this is off topic so I apologise..but hot damn, didn’t take Roman long. RDM is gone: http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/11/21/3544395/chelsea-sack-di-matteo-after-juventus-defeat?source=breakingnews
This is a massive boost to our club having Jones back. Hes a few years from the finnished article (as finnished as you can be by his early 20′¨s) but with Rio maybe walking or permanantly crocked and ever crocked Vidic we need someone in the middle. Carrick can do a job I dont care much what others say in that regards. Evans will never be a rugular option and he is the wrong age to bet on. I realise hes still young BUT he is minus Rio and Vidic the senior central defender and it must be difficult for a senior player to take orders from a much younger but much better defender in Jones. In my opinion Jones just has to stay fit now to keep our season alive. We need some continuity at the back and who knows if Vidic will ever play meaningful time again. It cant be easy for a 30+ year old coming back after two long term injuries at the worlds greatest club.
Wow RDM is sacked. And news has it that our old friend Rafa is in line to sit in before Pep in the summer. What a fantastic project they have there, 1 bad month and the manager who won a CL for you, albeit luckily, is gone
Roberto di matteo is sacked. Roman is a stupid ass hoe.
that what happens when your clubs a rich mans play thing and great to see jones back and getting game time in the heart of the defence some valuable lessons learned last night but on a whole not a bad night we may of lost but there was positives there like jones fletcher getting 90 mins in experiance handed to one or two would of liked to see a bit more of a reserve look to it with maybe wotton at cb with jones and maybe raffa getting a rest
I thought both Jones, Carrick and Butner played well but I think Fergies blue eyed boy Rafael leaves a lot tobe desired. When Utd wingers get the ball they are closed down immediately by one or two defenders whereas our right flank the wingers have as much time as they want like they did on Saturday. Its time Fergie put Jones at right back and let Rafael play in the reserves. Even when he marauds up the field and loses the ball he just saunters back always to the centre of the defence and leaves the wingers for other players.
I also think Fletcher has lost a lot of his pace since being ill but I would still prefer him to either Scholes or Giggs.
I honestly think Roman shouldn’t have stuck with Di Mattero after winning the CL as it was almost inevitable that at the first sign of a wobble he’d be under serious pressure and lo and behold the axe has fallen. The man just can’t seem to make his mind up. I felt sorry for AVB as he was brought in for an overhaul of the club and was turfed out before he had the bonnet up. Now they done the same to Di Matteo. The one thing I’ll say for United is that we’ve stuck by Ferguson even when things have looked ropey but we’ve always come through the other side. Chelsea might think about doing the same or they’ll never get anywhere until they stick with a manager and get rid of Terry and Lampard.
@Trevor…..Leave Rafael in the reserves?..U must be joking. Rafael is a right-wing back and will always bombard forward and leave his position at times. Thats why we need strong quick center backs or defensive midfielder to cover his back. Dani Alvez had similar problems with C.Ronaldo and Puyol was given the role of handling him. Jones offers no attack options when placed at right back and he can’t put in crosses which are Man Utd’s strengths. Against Villa, Valencia could not get his crosses right and it was Rafael who put in a good for Hernandez to slot in.
November 21, 2012 at 10:37
Goat Peticoat says:
Evans will never be a rugular option and he is the wrong age to bet on.
i don’t know how you came to that conclusion, he’s been far and away our best defender for almost the last year
November 21, 2012 at 11:39
trevor from Northwich says:
Its time Fergie put Jones at right back and let Rafael play in the reserves. Even when he marauds up the field and loses the ball he just saunters back always to the centre of the defence and leaves the wingers for other players.
i dont know what games you’ve been watching either.
matt summed it up.
I am with you on that one.
Evans and Rafael have been the most improved players in the last year and seriously they both need to be on the teamsheet right now!
Glad Jones is back. Had a hell o a game considering he had to save Carrick’s back sides on more than one occasion. Never tall enough for me as a regular EPL CB, but has decent enough positional sense for the job in CL and cups. Handy in a pinch is my summation
Sad that we conceded on a set piece when their best scorer gets left open…… by Fletcher
The Gala lads were diving left and right and the ref appeared completely out of his depth. Fletcher should have been captain in my view because Carrick was never in the refs ear.
Given that, and the load of chances we had, there is not much to complain about the Galactasary match.
3rd youngest United team ever for a CL tie (24yo was the average)
Best news is the regulars rested:
De Gea,
Defense: Rio, Smalling, Evans, Evra,
MF: Valencia, Nani, Scholes, Giggs,
F: Rooney, RvP
Shocking that we have just had a run of 4 away fixtures on the trot. More shocking still we havn’t had a clean sheet in 8 matches. And more shocking than that? We haven’t scored in last 2. That needs sorting!
QPR need to be done like a kipper and that’s a fact.
Hope we keep up our home form v QPR: Never dropped a point at home since 1992.
Come on those Reds!
Did anyone here this?
Journo: “You were disappointed in ’93 and again now. Anything changed in 19 yrs?”
SAF:”Yes, we’ve won it twice.”
I actually enjoyed watching the match to see how they would cope and I thought they did extremely well. That would have been a good game for them to learn from and how to do it in a hostile stadium. They can only improve. Have to agree with Phil, that pitched looked so heavy it made me tired!!
Now to batter Sparky and his mob
Rafael > Jones at rb.
When Chelsea signed Di Matteo for TWO seasons I think they meant SUMMER AND AUTUMN
What a disgraceful side, proper coaches would dodge that side of the world
WOW di matteo sackedm so happy we have had SAF for this time being and maybe more.
Let’s hope oyr next manager will take us far and long,
We will never become the nexy chelski!!!
#IAMUNITED
basically a lot of our supporters think liek this after one game hahah
“The team’s recent performances and results have not been good enough and the owner and the Board felt that a change was necessary now to keep the club moving in the right direction as we head into a vitally important part of the season.”
, but damn, chelski and abramovicvic has high standards ;DDDD
how stupid can it get. let’s hope they get benitez hahahah.
http://u.goal.com/231300/231305hp2.jpg
Haha I’m hearing that the Chelsea physio has left the club as well” FERGIE SIGN HER UP!!!!!
There have been 17 different Chelsea managers whilst Sir Alex Ferguson has been manager at Manchester United.
Wow, just wow, I don’t even know what CFC stands for. Maybe chelsea football club
Or maybe chelsea firing club, you just cannot know this things, it has long contradicted the meaning the abbreviation
That’s the thing, jones made his name as,a,centre back, some are still placing him as an option to be the “hard man” in midfield, why don’t we get vinnie jones as wel?. Moving this guy around has not helped him, he neess to learn and improve as a centre back. He has good attributes apart from enough height but that hasn’t stopped some great defenders playing there. Hopefully he’ll come good but improvements are sure needed in his game. At centre back, he needs more composure and calmness, the positional sense will hopefully come with experience.
Reading bobby’s comment on previous thread, i’m on his side regarding young. It’s good to give players time and young should have his fair share but at his age, i’m afraid he won’f improve any further as he’s pretty much at his peak. Was i championing him to join united? No, watched him enough times to know he didn’t have the sheer quality to become a force at united. I think at best, he makes a decent squad and no where near the class of a confident nani. At 16mill, young has struggled to replicate his villa form. I think his supposed defensive work is covering up his deficiences going forward. After saying all that, i’m a fair person so i say give him the time he needs but there are doubts over him that even the most optmistic united supporter cannot hide from.
Final game for RDM: Torres benched. Final game for AVB: Torres benched. Title decider vs Man utd for Ancelotti: Torres benched
Hahaha, its like a christmas tree, how ironic
See why this people gets sucked, only rafa can last gel well with torres. Bad for voda though
Jones and Smalling back, with Evans getting games and finding form, is exactly what we need.
Haven’t seen the match yet, watched Juve instead. Don’t you just love how managers lose the Chelsea dressing room the moment they lose a few on the bounce. Classy. Too bad Pogba had to move to Italy to play the Rent Boys this season, must say it looks like Kiko is heading the same way according to his agent. Perhaps he should join Diouf in Germany and see how it should be done? Diouf will probably play either LFC, Spurs or Newcastle this season, and with 17 goals in 25 he won’t be in Germany long imo. Decent player.
As for our 2nd-string team v Gala it was always gonna be a good experience win or lose. Fergie doesn’t have the numbers to play our strongest defence 3 times in 8 days and its hard for attacking players to excel with a dodgy back 4 behind them. It was never gonna be a blockbuster, it was just a formality, and Im sure there are positives to take from the defeat. Jones playing 90 mins is one of them.
The main thing (obviously) is the EPL this weekend. The way I see it somebody in the top flight is supposed to take a battering after the recent games we’ve had – thats the United Way too right? As for Sunday that will take care of itself. Chelsea need City to drop points more than we do haha.
@samuel
this is the thing in this blog, we should agree to disagree on some points. and not call the people who live in fantasy land.
For example. I agree with you 100% on what you said on for Jones and Youngie and if I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t say you are in a fantasy world. okey this is the Internet, but still, show some respect, cause how do you know, maybe one day we’ll be sitting next to each other in Old Trafford and singing together United,
So take this also like that, we are a group United, sometimes, there are people with different opinions,
some are absurd like sacking SAF at his last seasons, and some are genuinely trying to explain something and not bashing the team, juts pointing out that there’s no excuse for losing in this team, no matter what or how young or how old you think players are.
IF we’d played this team with wooton,keane, petrucci vermiji and king(from the start),THAT would be a young squad. THIS IS YOUNG, THESE are KIDS, without experience, that’s the justification.
peace, I’ll move on.
The lads played ok last night pleased Jones is back I rate the lad highly,can’t believe some fucking muppet is picking on Rafa,wtf
No surprise to me Di Matteo is gone he was never a big enough name for Roman,got a nice payday from a flukey CL win,nothing more or less.Rentboys are shit have no drive or toughness relying on a bunch of floaters just isn’t going to work.Hazard,Mata and Oscar are pretty well the same player but again that’s Roman making the signing without having a fucking clue and the manager getting blamed for it
Nice with Jones back, just hope our other players stops sleeping in the games(im looking at you giggs) and shape up.
It was expected that Chelsea sacked Di Matteo, talk about overhyped coach, he got lucky last year and everyone knows it was the classical drogba,terry,cole,cech firm that shipped the cl home. He was just a bystander and they are almost out of CL this time. The previous CL champions getting knocked out, never happen before. But who the fuck is going to take over? Rumours about FSW after all the topnames and that would be fantastic, can’t wait having that retard back in PL , i miss him!
WeAreUnited – you are basing “young” on game time, i think age plays a part too. Danny welbeck at 21 is still inexperienced at the highest level, he’s not really played enough and is still maturing. Experience in football is as much to do with age as it’s to do with game time. Anyway, i don’t think we’ll agree but apologies, looking back i probably came too strong
@samuel
I get that welbz is not matured yet, and I always say this thing to people bashing him, but he was a regular last year playing CL and PL and based on that, in my eyes he is not a “kid” or “young”. THOUGH!! bear in mind that for me Welbz and Chicha were our best players yesterday. Welbz had an absolute screamer when he played upfront.
Glad we found a solution, cause you and UTID are the ones, I always wait to comment, and coming that strong was a bit too much. you have mine and you have your opinion, our goal is to do the best for United.
Apologies accepted mate!
we support the same team. no hard feelings. agree to disagree
What a timely return. Rio does look that he need some rest.
Please, please Roman, appoint Rafa as the new manager!
Press conferences have never been the same since he was sacked by Liverpool!
AND THAT IS A FACT!
Great to have him back..nice to see the squad filling up again.Although i can`nt believe we let josh king go.I thought he had it for the future.And with a bit of luck chelsea will appoint Rafa beneathus i could do with a good laugh…then im quite tempted to throw a few quid on chelsea v city and torres to score if rafa is appointed by the weekend.FACT!!! HA
After his composed 10 minutes on the pitch last night, Joshua King, looks set to go on loan at Blackburn ahead of a posible permanent move.
Best of luck to him. Blackburn’s new coach Henning Berg would no the player from Norway duty and had talks with United about several moves before take up the Rovers job.
Here is the link:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8265125/Joshua-King-close-to-completing-move-to-Blackburn-from-Manchester-United
Roman is running out of managers,obviously Pep is the fav i’m just hoping he has to much class for that Russian cunt regardless of money,after Pep the next to in line are the FSW and “Arry which is comedy gold
Who do some on here refer to Guardiola as Pep, is he our mate?
On Benetiz the FSW in no mug, he’ll get the fuckers organised though I fear not in time for City.
Joshua King to Blackbur for loan would be a great news for the lad, he looks strong and fast and made an impact whne played for Norway, and Henning Berg being there, he will get the help needed.
mattbw7,what difference does it make and who gives a fuck,oh i agree think the FSW should be in line for the Utd job top lad
It’s all a bit scouse Wayne. So am I right in thinking you don’t give Benetiz any credit as far as being a manager or coach? (judging by your get him to United comment).
Off topic
Where are the chelsea praisers now? I said when the season started that chelsea will fall and they have now. The best thing they could do is sack a manager. How could anyone support this garbage. I can bet many chelsea fans will switch their side and now support another blue in city. 3 weeks ago whole media,Some fans from various clubs including some here said chelsea are the team to beat. Look at them now. New manager means new theory. It will be again a two horse race. Chelsea are gone. Good luck with your project HAZARD. Prick
ON topic- Welcome back jones.
Seems like a few Dortmund lads want Utd moves
Borussia Dortmund defender keen to make Old Trafford switch.
Spanish source Fichajes claims that Borussia Dortmund centre-back Mats Hummels is pushing for a move to Man United.
Borussia Dortmund midfielder Kevin Grosskreutz has admitted that he wants to play his football in the Premier League which has drawn interest of Liverpool.
Grosskreutz has recently broken into the Germany national team and is also playing a key part for Dortmund, who are trying to retain the Bundesliga title for the second seaon in a row.
He told Bild, “Everyone here is pretty much aware I am a big fan of England,” Grosskreutz, who has two years left to run on his contract, told BILD.
“Clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester United. It would be a great thing to play in the Premiership.”
Grosskreutz has also highlighted his desire to join Dortmund winger Shinji Kagawa who is hotly tipped to make a summer move to Manchester United.
“It would be excellent to play alongside Shinji again,”
mattbw7,don’t like his negative style of coaching and imo lost the plot years ago,i use Pep because i don’t really give a fuck and can’t be bothered to spell out his name,called being lazy so i guess it is scouse lol
FSW screwed Torres as far as I am concerned. When Torres came, he was dynamite. Then FSW came up with weird fact rant, and then came a series baffling substitutions taking off Torres when they need a goal. Then came Torres’s injury and he never recovered. We certainly benefitted from his self implosion
Go on FSW, Mata, Hazard & Oscar’s career sure needs his kind of help. We would dearly appreciate it.
Ash i’ve being saying the same thing,while Roman makes all the transfer decisions the manager is always going to have problems.Maureen left because he wanted more control and it became a problem that’s the reason no self respecting manager should touch that job with a 10ft pole.Manager is just a yes man and sells out for the big contract.
Be a perfect job for ‘Arry one wide boy working for another,’Arry would love to spend Romans millions,kid in a fucking candy store,overrated tosser
True Wayne, as for Benitez, I’d agree with your defensive comment however, that’s from a United perspective, view it from Abramovichs and it’s slightly different, yes he makes all the right noises about wanting to play the right way but really when it comes down to it, he’ll settle for winning stuff, Mourihno wasn’t very much different and yet he does get lauded as a future United manager (not by me and I don’t know your stance on him) so what I’m saying stands, he won the Spanish league twice and didn’t have a bad record at LFC, did he lose the plot, oh certainly but I think that was a combination of Fergie (getting under his skin) and the lack of backing in the transfer market, if the cowboys had backed their man, he would’ve continued to challenge. This makes perfect sense for Chelsea, they may want Guardiola but does he want them, especially with City lurking in the background?
Marq says:
FSW screwed Torres as far as I am concerned. When Torres came, he was dynamite. Then FSW came up with weird fact rant, and then came a series baffling substitutions taking off Torres when they need a goal. Then came Torres’s injury and he never recovered. We certainly benefitted from his self implosion
Marq, Torres is quoted as saying the Benitez was the most influential coach he’s worked with.
mattbw7 he actually made a lot of signings mate here’s a full list,how many actually turned out to be any good?
Player Signed Cost Came from
Fernando Torres
July 2007
20,200,000
Atletico Madrid
Alberto Aquilani
August 2009
20,000,000
AS Roma
Robbie Keane
July 28 2008
19,000,000
Tottenham Hotspur
Javier Mascherano
January 2007
18,000,000
West Ham United
Glen Johnson
22 June 2009
17,500,000
Portsmouth
Ryan Babel
July 2007
11,500,000
Ajax
Xabi Alonso
August 20th 2004
10,750,000
Real Sociedad
Dirk Kuyt
August 18 2006
9,000,000
Feyenoord
Albert Riera
September 1 2008
8,000,000
Espanyol
Peter Crouch
July 20th 2005
7,000,000
Southampton
Andrea Dossena
July 2008
7,000,000
Udinese
Lucas Leiva
11 May 2007
6,750,000
Gremio
Jermaine Pennant
July 26 2006
6,700,000
Birmingham City
Martin Skrtel
11 January 2008
6,500,000
Zenit St Petersburg
Craig Bellamy
July 1st 2006
6,000,000
Blackburn Rovers
Jose Reina
July 4th 2005
6,000,000
Villareal
Luis Garcia
August 20th 2004
6,000,000
Barcelona
Dan Agger
January 2006
5,800,000
Brondby
Mohammed Sissoko
July 2005
5,600,000
Valencia
Fernando Morientes
January 2005
5,500,000
Real Madrid
Yossi Benayoun
July 2007
5,000,000
West Ham United
Diego Cavalieri
July 2008
4,000,000
Palmeiras
Alvaro Arbeloa
January 31 2007
2,600,000
Deportivo La Coruna
Sebastian Leto
July 2007
2,500,000
Lanus
Jose Miguel Gonzalez Rey (Josemi)
July 2004
2,000,000
CD Malaga
Gabriel Paletta
July 1st 2006
2,000,000
Banfield
Jonjo Shelvey
10 May 2010
1,700,000
Charlton Athletic
Sotirios Kyrgiakos
21 August 2009
1,500,000
AEK Athens
David Ngog
July 24 2008
1,500,000
Paris St Germain
Mark Gonzalez
July 4th 2005
1,500,000
Albacete
Scott Carson
January 21st 2005
750,000
Leeds United
Mikel San Jose
July 2007
270,000
Athletic Bilbao
David Martin
January 2006
250,000
MK Dons
Antonio Barragan
July 4th 2005
240,000
Sevilla
Besian Idrizaj
August 2005
190,000
Linzer ASK
Jack Hobbs
August 2005
150,000
Lincoln City
Alex Cooper
January 2008
100,000
Ross County
Alexander Kacaniklic
June 2007
75,000
Helsingborgs
Gerardo Bruna
September 2007
0
Real Madrid
Charles Itandje
August 2007
0
Lens
Paul Anderson
January 2006
0
Hull City
Danny Guthrie
July 2005
0
Trainee
Chris Buchtmann
January 2008
0
Borussia Dortmund
Philipp Degen
July 1 2008
0
Borussia Dortmund
Hakan Duyan
June 2008
0
Lauri Dalla Valle
January 2008
0
Jippo
Peter Gulacsi
1 September 2008
0
MTK Hungaria
Adam Hammill
January 2006
0
Trainee
John Flanagan
January 2010
0
Trainee
Daniel Ayala
July 2007
0
Sevilla
Damien Plessis
August 2007
0
Lyon
Vincent Lucas Weijl
July 2008
0
AZ Alkmaar
Nikola Saric
July 2008
0
Herfolge
Emmanuel Mendy
July 23 2008
0
Murcia Deportivo
Vitor Flora
September 1 2008
0
Botafogo FC
Jakub Sokolik
August 2009
0
Banik Ostrava
Jamie Stephens
April 5th 2010
0
Swindon Town
Maxi Rodriguez
January 2010
0
Atletico Madrid
Kristjan Gauti Emilsson
January 2010
0
FH Hafnarfjordur
Dave Moli
December 2009
0
Luton Town
Antonio Nunez
August 2004
0
Real Madrid
Mauricio Pellegrino
January 2005
0
Valencia
Nicolaj Beier Kohlert
July 2009
0
Esbjerg fB
Chris Mavinga
July 8 2009
0
Paris St Germain
Boudewijn Zenden
July 4th 2005
0
Middlesbrough
Victor Palsson
January 2009
0
AGF Arhus
Jan Kromkamp
January 2006
0
Villareal
Calum Woods
January 2006
0
Trainee
Lee Peltier
July 2005
0
Trainee
Craig Lindfield
July 2006
0
Trainee
Stephen Darby
July 2006
0
Trainee
David Amoo
2007
0
Millwall
Danny O’Donnell
July 2005
0
Trainee
Ramon Calliste
August 2005
0
Manchester United
Steve Irwin
July 2008
0
Trainee
Martin Kelly
August 2007
0
Trainee
Ronald Huth
January 2007
0
Tacuary FC
Jordy Brouwer
January 2007
0
Ajax
Francisco Manuel Duran
January 2007
0
Malaga
Emiliano Insua
January 2007
0
Boca Juniors
Ray Putterill
June 2007
0
Trainee
Martin Hansen
June 2007
0
Viborg FF
Jay Spearing
June 2007
0
Trainee
Dave Roberts
July 2006
0
Trainee
David Mannix
July 2004
0
Trainee
Ryan Flynn
July 2006
0
Trainee
Robbie Threlfall
July 2006
0
Trainee
Paul Willis
July 2005
0
Trainee
Miki Roque
August 2005
0
Llieda
Ryan Crowther
July 2007
0
Stockport County
Mihail Alexandrov
July 2007
0
CSKA Sofia
Dani Pacheco
July 2007
0
Barcelona
Marvin Pourie
July 2007
0
Borussia Dortmund
Fabio Aurelio
July 5 2006
0
Valencia
Nikolay Mihaylov
July 2007
0
Levski Sofia
Jay Smith
July 2005
0
Trainee
Gary Mackay Steven
June 2007
0
Ross County
Andras Simon
27 May 2007
0
MTK Hungaria
Krisztian Nemeth
27 May 2007
0
MTK Hungaria
Mark Smyth
June 2004
0
Trainee
Andriy Voronin
July 2007
0
Bayer Leverkusen
Nabir El Zhar
June 2006
0
St Etienne
Robbie Fowler
January 2006
0
Manchester City
Ryan Wilkie
July 2005
0
Trainee
Godwin Antwi
August 2005
0
Real Zaragoza
Wayne, I give you Bebe
or Young, that cunt will never be a Manchester United player.
Point is, you can look at some of the talent any club signs it’s a fucking meat market at times, how many lads do you think City are currently sucking up that’ll probably get nowhere the first team, still it stops us getting a sniff.
mattbw7 in regards to Maureen taking over from Sir Alex i’m not as opposed to it as some,think he’s proven himself over and over again and definitely won’t be intimidated by the job and in his mind it will fulfill his legacy as being one of the best of all time,i think he wants it bad.My personnel thought i’d like to see Moyes get a chance but it would be a big step up so the pressure might be to much but Sir Alex really likes him.More and more my gut is telling me Pep[lol] think he has to much class for Rent boys and the Whores,Utd seems the perfect fit
mattbw7 just responding to you saying he wasn’t given transfer funds,he was but most of his signings was ave at best,just don’t rate him that highly mate hope Rent boys do hire him
hahaha remember when benitez bought robbie keane from tottenham for 19m then sold him back to tottenham 6 months later for 12m? fuck that was funny
“Torres is quoted as saying the Benitez was the most influential coach he’s worked with”
Did be mean positively or negatively?
I am struggling to understand something here.
Afew years ago the future was looking bright for the United midfield. Ravel Morrison and Paul Pogba were up and coming talents who seemed destined to make it in to the first team. Obviously Morrison was sold because of his off the field problems but Pogba was a different problem. He just wanted to play football and be paid £20,000 per week.
Nick Powell was signed from Crewe Alexandra for £6,000,000 and reportedly on £5,000 per week.
Paul Pogba was signed by Juventus for a mere £1,000,000 compensation.
Wouldn’t it have made more financial sense to play Pogba and pay him £20,000 per week. Especially with the current midfield situation. He is looking good at Juventus and exactly the sort of player United need at the moment.
No doubt in my mind FSW fucked up Torres he was desperate to keep his job and was playing Torres injured.Torres have a couple of good seasons at the Dippers but has only scored more than 20 goals once in his career,was already done when Roman forked out the 50mill probably go down as the worst signing in transfer history,be lucky to get 10-15 mill for him now.
AlphaRS in the end think it became more to do with his attitude,unproven kid demanding first team football or else just isn’t going to fly with Sir Alex.At Utd unless it’s a rare talent there is a process a player has to go through,a player like him if he keeps developing will probably end up at one of the rent boy clubs.
Pogba has left and is a juventus, what relevance is he to manchester united?. Yes the club may have lost a potentially top player but at the end of the day, pogba made his choice to leave, his agent already turned his head and if he didn’t leave united at the time he did, he would have done so later, united is not the be all and end all for pogba and he showcased that. It’s clutching at straws to continiously bring him up, there’s no guarantee that he would’ve been the saviour of the united as i keep reading useless articles claiming he would have been. Manchestet united has moved on from pogba,l,you win some and you lose some.
Proverb @ 13:26: “When Chelsea signed Di Matteo for TWO seasons I think they meant SUMMER AND AUTUMN”
Brilliant !
Wayne @ 15:36: “Spanish source Fichajes claims that Borussia Dortmund centre-back Mats Hummels is pushing for a move to Man United.”
A little bird whispered in my ear that Daniele De Rossi is coming to the red side of M/C in January. Getting BOTH Hummels and De Rossi would be fine with me.
Getting neither and enduring more agony-time watching Ashley Young disgrace the red #18 shirt.
Seeing TheGingerNinja and SirRyanGiggs not realize that they are part of a glorious past is making it hard to believe that SAF has his finger on the pulse of this year’s challenge.
@Alpha RS – good point well made. I think it was more to do with what Wayne says about his attitude.
denton is that the same source who had the Modric/Berba swap,seems about as plausible,just don’t see De Rossi leaving Italy
thepeoplesperson.com/manchester-united-are-selling-the-wrong-striker/
This article is the only decent thing i’ve read about united in the past few weeks. It would be far too hasty to get rid of joshua king, especially.on a permanent basis. He could easily slot into that wing role, left or on the right. He used toget accused for lacking composure and an end product but his game has improved, united have 3 wingers with experience who are currently faltering.why not give josh king an opportunity?, he’s big and powerful, probably one of the fastest players in football at the moment. His movement has got better and his end product is getting better. Too many players in this united team are looking complacent, thinking that signing for united has suddenly meant they’ve reached the stars and don’t need to kick on. I say give the likes of king and brady chances.
@wayne and @Bobby Charlton’s combover
I had forgotton about that aspect. SAF is never going to put up with players demanding to play. Had he given in to Pogba then that would have undermined his authority at United.
Their are many reasons he left including wanting to play first team football, more money, his agent wanted to make a load of money nudging him towards Juventus. I just don’t think it makes any sense selling a player for £1,000,000 and signing a striker for £6,000,000 and putting him in midfield.
@samuel – united WE stand
Pogba does have relevance to United because he came through our youth system and because he is a midfield player with alot of potential. He seems to be fulfilling that potential at Juventus who realistically it would seem have a better midfield than United. How is he getting in to that midfield but did not get in to the midfield at United? He can’t be any worse than what we have at the moment surely? It doesn’t make sense reallly.
I saw Pogba against The Renties last night and he had some good touches on the ball.
I watched him against
very good article frome the peoplesperson.
Macheda unfortunately has had rough spells on loan, but he doesn’t seem to shine for the first team, it’äs like he thinks the whole world is in his shoulders when he plays.
We should watch how good will Joshua King to at blackburn and after that decide what to do with that prospect, selling him would be a mistake.
As for Macheda, well every player needs more chances, so does Macheda, but he has had many chances, if he stays, I hope the best for him, if he goes, I will be sad that our saviour on THAT game against Villa and the other also, had to go.
peace.
I certainly don’t see de rossi leaving roma, he’s already a legend there and as italians have this sense of loyalty towards their original clubs, i can’t see it happening. He won’t taint his status within their eyes to go to a club that offers bucket loads. Stranger things have happened and he may well do but i doubt it. Hummels is an elegant centre back, if you’re looking for a ready made replacement for rio then he is but would cost an absolute extravagant fee and with smalling, jones, evans and michael keane (who are no where near the regular german international in terms of development but may well reach those heights), i can see fergie being patient to see them make the step up.
Can’t see De Rossi leaving either but we don’t know what might be going on in anyone’s head or what is going on behind the scenes between club, agent and player. We seem to be in limbo in midfield – giggs and scholes are too far gone while clevs, ando and especially powell and tunnicliffe haven’t come on enough yet for most peoples liking. Fletcher is struggling to regain his old form and Carrick is consistent if unspectacular. Assessing it honestly it’s not a midfield that has anyone shaking in their boots.
Alphars – he came through our system? I wonder what Le havre and his first team have to say about that. Tell me how a juventus player is relevant to this club?. You and a lot of people need to let it go, he made a decision to leave, he looks at united as a stepping stone and if he didn’t leave now, he would have left maybe a season or two into him staking first team place. He wanted to follow the steps of fellow french men like michel platini, zidane and vieira at the italian club, he’s not heartbroken about leaving united as many make out. It’s tedious everytime i read about him in articles, it seems to be more of having a dig at fergie because a player turned him down than any constructive points to aid united, then again there are a lot of acoholic fuckers in the media these days.
My opinion is looking at the younger players at united and seeing how they can make that next step into the first team. People spent half their time moping about other players, perhaps we could look closer to home and encourage players that are here and want to be united players.
Wayne @ 17:28: “denton is that the same source who had the Modric/Berba swap,seems about as plausible,just don’t see De Rossi leaving Italy”
You betcha. It would have happened, too; but SAF didn’t answer my call ‘cos he was focussed on Ashley Young and making life miserable for Nani.
If anything, the united midfield will take a season or two to build. Players are still developing or are yet to find their feet but i see the talents there. Anderson for me has been held back massively with all the injuries he’s had, his fitness and endurance was no problem when he first joined, he powered and drove up and down throughiut. He and hagreaves made up that rock solid powerful mifield. Anderson has missed years of regular football, he’s still not fully fit and only more match time will sort that. People moan everytime he doesn’t instantly dazzle, forgetting it takes a regular time to gain form and fitness. He needs games regularly. That really is just a slight part of the problem though but solutions can be found, even if it may take time to see these players step up. The fact a legend like scholes is around to bail us out doesn’t help either, when he and giggs pack it in, the younger players will be thrown into the deep end, those that will swim to the shores of making it will and those that will fall gradually into the bottom part will do. That’s the whole point of football, taking a chance or stand fucking still.
@samuel – united WE stand
United bring in players from other clubs and put them in to our youth system. Are they not considered to have been products of the United youth system?
To say Pogba is not relevant to United is like saying all players who have moved on from United are not relevant. For instance should I look out for you to say “what relevance does he have to United?” when any talk about a former player is mentioned on this blog?
I don’t understand where your distain regarding Pogba has come from? This is the first time I have mentioned Pogba on this blog?
Pogba did want to play for United. Probably until he saw Giggs and Ando ahead of him in the pecking order for that position. And you have to say you can understand when he thought feck that.
Chelski are looking to replace Di Matteo by tonight so they either have someone lined up for some time or they called benitez this afternoon. The fact that they have brought in Txiki smells to me like Pep is on his way but yet I can’t see it. I wouldn’t mind if he reserved himself for United rather than going to these chavs who will have no respect for the man. benitez on the other hand would take the managers job at aldershot if offered. He expresses interest in every job going and I could only see him take chelsea lower so he gets my vote.
My disdain for pogba? don’t make me laugh. All players with the right attitude, i try to keep up with, players like pogba have no relevance to me, i don’t think ruthless master dictator will be weeping into his red wine anytime soon. United have lost better players than pogba will probably ever be and the club has moved on, you and many i’ve noticed clearly have an emotional attachment which i’m struggling to comprehend. What stamp has pogba left on manchester united to warrant all this lamb sacrificing and weeps? I’m really puzzled. You’re open to bang on about a juventus player but so am i to declare him irrelevant.
“pogba did want to stay at united”? What, did he send you that confirmation through paypal or used a vulture to send you a paper note?. Yeah, he really wanted to stay, that’s why he was completely looked indecisive, getting the hopes of fans up when clearly he’s made a deal with his agent aka “fat tony” to join juventus, he has left and to mend your heart, let it go. I would rather focus on the likes of petrucci, powell, cole,lingard, tunni who are equally talented but behind him in physical development. That’s my frank assessment of this pogba bollocks.
My disdain for pogba? don’t make me laugh. All players with the right attitude, i try to keep up with, players like pogba have no relevance to me, i don’t think ruthless master dictator will be weeping into his red wine anytime soon. United have lost better players than pogba will probably ever be and the club has moved on, you and many i’ve noticed clearly have an emotional attachment which i’m struggling to comprehend. What stamp has pogba left on manchester united to warrant all this lamb sacrificing and weeps? I’m really puzzled. You’re open to bang on about a juventus player but so am i to declare him irrelevant.
“pogba did want to stay at united”? What, did he send you that confirmation through paypal or used a vulture to send you a paper note?. Yeah, he really wanted to stay, that’s why he was completely indecisive, getting the hopes of fans up when clearly he’s made a deal with his agent aka “fat tony” to join juventus, he has left and to mend your heart, let it go. I would rather focus on the likes of petrucci, powell, cole,lingard, tunni who are equally talented but behind him in physical development. That’s my frank assessment of this pogba bollocks.
m.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/nov/21/nick-powell-manchester-united?cat=football&type=article
Anyway, for once, a great positive article that doesn’t cry “doom”.
I think Guardiola is coming to United some time soon,hopefully early January.Think that meeting in New York in the summer is pretty significant,here’s hoping.
Confirmed: Rafa Benitez is the new Chelsea manager. Official announcement by the club to be made shortly
Rafa Benithus us BACKKKK!!!!!! New Chelsea manager….
Confirmed on Chelsea www site.
samuel – united WE stand – a season or 2? LOL, the midfield needs new players end of for me, for me we need 2 new CM players, and let us not get started on the mess hat is going on at the back. Butner a good player, but for me, we have yet to see replacements for ferdinand vidic and evra, Evans is the closest to becoming a fixture at the back along with rafeal and DDG. Even if jones and smallen get over their injury’s, we are still short of numbers at the back, let alone the lack of depth and veriaty in the CM. You add the numbers up, we are short of 5 players, to rebuild that shattered spine. I think fergie must share a big portion of the blame, for letting the united spine rot into decline, and for me it is unacceptable to be playing a ryan giggs well past his sell by date now
and scholes maybe good for certain games, but to go into the new season with the same midfield has last season is a complete outrage for me, no matter if we signed RVP. We have no linchpin, no one to break the play up, and when giggs came off for scholes, that for me is not only a pisstake, it is the straw that should break the camels back, that the boss has made some big big errors in recent yeas, that it is another season wasted in Europe, and I do think we are even more further away from competing for the CL more than ever before. We have gone from competing on all fronts, to just getting by in Europe, and just about competing for the PL
rant over, but it is just not good enough, especially in the way the boss seems almost stupid in the deep-lining problems that have infested the spine since summer 2009
@Samuel
Its kinda hard not to notice Pogba as an ex-United player when he’s playing CL football with the champions of Italy. Especially when he’s playing against the Rent Boys.
Nobody would begrudge Diouf scoring v Liverpool in the Europa so why the issue with people saying whatever they want about Pog?
After Morrison left some supporters watched his subsequent fuck ups with GLEE, so what kind of fucked up individual could begrudge a United supporter having respect for an ex-player?
He’s joined a club that probably wanted him before we signed him, he’s accepted the normal wage for his age, and he actually gets game time in all competitions despite his lack of real experience after so many years at United.
Right now he’s in a midfield with Pirlo for fuck sake. He CHOSE Paul Scholes mind you and he chose well, but Pogba is such a widely recognised talent he still had Pirlo as an option and he took it.
I can’t blame him for wanting to play football at the highest level, and I can’t begrudge any supporter who talks about previous players, whether positively or negatively. If Ronaldo scores the winner right now you can’t have a go at anybody for bringing him up ffs. We don’t have to agree mind you.
@samuel – united WE stand
Yes your distain. I find your post quite amusing actually. I have no emotional attachment to Pogba. Do you? The reason I ask is becauase when I mentioned his name you jumped all over it like I had mentioned the name of your ex boyfriend after a messy break up.
If Pogba has no relevance to you than why comment on my post questioning the financial reasoning behind selling Pogba for £1,000,000 compensation to Juventus and signing Powell for £6,000,000. That is a legitimate question.
I’m hardly banging on about Pogba. Why are you puzzled as to why I mention his name? He is playing in a midfield surrounded by Pirlo, Marchisio, Vidal, Asamoah, and Lichtsteiner. Those players are hardly shite and I quite enjoyed watching them rip The Renties a new one last night. That midfield is better than The United midfield bar Rooney. That might be hard to accept for alot of United fans but it is the truth.
Are you having a laugh in regards to Petrucci, Powell, Cole, Lingard, and Tunnicliffe? Talented they may be, potential they may have, but do you think they will be anywhere near the first team anytime soon when SAF continues to pick Scholes (Legend he may be but can not last 90 mins or play 2 games in a week) and Giggs (Legend he may be but is long past it). Isn’t that the reason Pogba left in the first place. Just to play football?
So back to what I was saying, he can’t be any worse than anything we have at the moment.
If he messed around with your feelings about staying and left get over it. He wants Fat Tony. Not you.
I m happy zo see Rafa on Chelsea s bench…because we have one opponent less fot the title. only Citeh…so we have to focus to brake them.