After Rafael Benitez’s very public melt down last season, some people have tried to make the same claims about Sir Alex Ferguson’s sanity following his statement which called City a “small club” with a “small club mentality”.
Ferguson once criticised Benitez for calling Everton a “small club” so comparisons are being made. I just have a few thoughts on this.
1. Everton have spent 107 seasons in the top flight, more than any other club in England.
2. Only United, Liverpool and Arsenal have won more League titles than Everton.
3. Everton have won a total of 24 trophies, City have 12.
4. Everton’s stadium isn’t owned by the council. City’s stadium is.
5. Sheffield Wednesday, Wolves and Huddersfield have won more League titles than City. Sunderland have won twice as many.
6. Everton last won a trophy in 1995. They last played in a final in 2009. City last won a trophy in 1976. They last played in a final in 1981.
7. When Everton bought players from Liverpool they didn’t feel the need to run an advertising campaign with the sole intention of winding Liverpool fans up. They weren’t that arsed what the bigger club in their city thought, they weren’t that obsessed.
Ferguson said City are a “small club with a small club mentality” because that is the truth. He criticised Benitez for calling Everton a “small club” because they’re not. It’s not rocket science.
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yeah true says….
SPOT ON!!
No need to explain it, only small minded individuals will try to shout the ‘hypocrit’ claim.
All together now:
This is how it feels to be Citeh….. This is how it feels to be small…..
City are a MASSIVE club. They are still the biggest joke around. But seriously let the bitter twats do what they want. Wouldn’t it be better just to ignore them? It’s this attention that they want. Those morons will do just about anything to get on the back pages. Why else would they wear those fucking ridiculous tea towels on their heads?
City are a massive club
Huddersfield are just bigger
MAN CITY FORMATION= 1-1-8 MAYBE??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DavihA5SrBo
nothing at all
also dont forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUpaLdsSFAE&NR=1
33 years
The stats shows it all, however they I think they need to be treated with the contempt they deserve. Just laugh them off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fergie is right in everything he said, I’d love to know who gave the fuckers permission to put it up in the first place. If it was the council, they would do well to remember the millions that United generate for the city every year. No parade after Moscow and now an insult to the club like this. FUMING!!
i think the press made a issue out of this. saf comments directly aim toward the tevez advertisement. not about mcfc capture tevez from united. nothing more nothing less. that ad involves mcfc directly. meanwhile rafa jibe was more about him try to belittle everton. so what there is to compare?
Small club, small mentality and deluded fans who clame we’re obsessed with them but yet there always on ROM.
well said scott
Can only be said in so many ways!!!
Should put the thing to rest…although I fear that Manc’er cunt will be here soon enough…”chuckles”
Can’t argue with facts! Great piece, Scott!
i dont care whether everton, aston villa or man city is bigger. i only know that united are the biggest. who cares whether man city is bigger than everton or bigger than totenham or villa. i know none of the club is bigger than united.
The thing what gets to me about United fans is that they thinkt hat they are a better class of human being. That they are better then other fans, you won’t get an arguement out of me about there team being the best as they are. League tables blah blah blah don’t lie. But.. you guys come across so smug and so arrogant is beyong belief. How on earth can people take Fergie or you Scott serious if you just try and belittle other teams constantly? Manchester City a small club?? do me a favour? what does that make Wigan, Scunthorpe,Grimsby or Altrincham??? It’s takes good humoured banter down to playground childishness. GHTT… did i read somewhere that you wore a Utd top at someones evening wedding? how classless and disrespectful is that!!! do you have no self respect or pride in yourself or others!! They kindly invited you to be aguess at their wedding and you wear a football shirt!! unfucking believable!
BlueAnt, I suppose City paying for a giant poster ‘welcoming’ Tevez to Manchester was proper good-humoured banter? Or how about Cideh fans calling us rags and Munichs? Munich was a tragedy for all of Manchester. Your very own Frank Swift died at Munich. Show some respect. The worst you can say about us is we are arrogant because we remind you of 34 years without a trophy. Maybe we are, maybe we are not. But I can definitely say much worse about cideh and cideh fans.
So, now you’re telling me United fans never chant or joke about tragedies? I distinctly remember one fan tell me that he bought 96 records for the hillsborough tradegy… but he wished he could of bought lots more!! and i remember , “city going down like a Russian submarine” chants… more piss taking from disasters.. so DON’T YOU tell me to show fucking respect!
As far as united fans being smug load of b-stards i disagree, they are usually fighting their corner because most city fans still believe in bell, lee etc, for fu-k sake lads you won one league title, one FA cup and a poxy league cup which never has or never will mean anything to anyone in the top half of the EPL, i saw a city fan with a shirt which had a picture of colin bell printed on it with the caption ” better than Best” meaning the legendary George Best, do me a favour lads, Bell was a good player, Best was arguably the greatest player ever to come from the british isles. Citeh fans you need 20 years at the very top and i mean the very top to ever be mentioned in the same breath as United.We spend more on f-ckin Brasso than you usually take on a league match day. I understand you being desperate to be noticed but try not to be so arrogant about it
Your ex physio told me a story about City going on tour to the Far East many years ago and they were welcomed off the plane and then as they arrived in the city of the team they were to play a big banner emblazed
” WE WELCOME MANCHESTER UNITED” City’s chairman got off the coach and tore it down as he was muttering some obscenity about United, i bet he wasn’t as f-ckin gutted as much as the split eyed lot who thought they were gonna play United.
@blue ant
see do all the united fans a favour get the hell out of here
You couldn’t make it up! A city fan on HERE having a go at one of our REGULAR POSTERS because of a top he wore to a WEDDING DO! What the fuck is wrong with you man? What business is it of yours?
“We spend more on f-ckin Brasso than you usually take on a league match day”.
Fucking belting line!
Shall we have a competition on how soon Hughes will get the sack?
@Blueant – you must frequent the United blogs quite a bit mate to know the imtimate details of Ghtt wedding outfits etc lol. With regards to you being annoyed and disagreeing about City being a small club, your a City fan so its understandable. Nevertheless, its all relative really isn’t it, according to different peoples ideas of what a big club actually is. If as Scott does, a big club is equated with the success it garners from its collection of silverware, then City are TINY. If its comes down to history and renown, then City are still tiny. Whose to say that won’t change if the Arabs stick with City, but even if it does, you still have a lot of catching up to do with the Man United, L’pools, Arsenals etc, before you can be considered of their ilk. That’s just truth mate.
With regards to chanting about disasters, I don’t care which fans do it, I find it despicable to be honest. The living relatives of those who have died in tragedy don’t deserve to hear such vile chants.
The truth about Tevez poster or not, is that HE HIMSELF still doesn’t consider he left United for Man City, but in his own oft quoted words ” As far as I know, I was KICKED OUT of Man United.” Hardly the words of someone who your poster and fans believe you convinced to come to you over United!
You have to feel sorry for citeh fans!! I’m mean would you openly mock the mentally retarded in the street? Of course you would’nt! These people should be pitied rather than laughed at. They stumble around in a light blue haze of delusion, facial hair and fashions that time would rather forget!
Just look at the two specimens in the photo at the top of the page! We should be building hospitals for unfortunates like these! The mere mention of following citeh should be enough to get you sectioned!
and thats a fact…
@ THEZONLY1UNITED ………
WHAT A FKIN LINE (WE SPEND MORE ON FUKIN BRASSO THAN THEY USUALLY TAKE ON MATCH DAYS) THIS IS THE REASON I LUV THIS BLOG!!!!!
We spend more on brasso than you take on a match day – fucking blinder of a line.
We spend more on Brasso,
Because we have won fuck loads,
Than you’ll take today,
Than you’ll take today…
Well said!
u said it right …….
brilliant stuff. i love the beef between manu and city.
i must say i agree with manu fans. man city is not in the class of man united.
even chelsea is not in the class of man united. cvity should not disrespect the work of great men like fergie and busby because of undeserved arab money
off topic – Is the ladyboy Torres obsessed with United or what? He never shuts up about us. Fair play to him though as he has said even without Ronnie we are still a great team. Something the bitter dipper rentboy Anelka would do well to remember. The cunt is writing us off already.
The Arsenal gun – Cheers mate.
@Isaidso, so you’re telling me that in your opinion City are a TINY club when it comes down to history and renown? Do you know anything about City or in fact any other club apart from United? So if City are Tiny what would you say Altrincham, Walsal, Oxford are?
@ Arsenal gun, my first post was about City being said to be a small club, and the way United fans think they are superior human beings to other fans. nothing to do with thinking city are on the same lever as utd. All you read or hear is utd’s players are world class and all others are over rated!! how many times have i heard the gerrard is just average and over rated!!
@thezonly1united, best vs bell well fans are stupid and naive, i once heard a Utd fan say Jordi Cruyff was better player then his dad Johan!!!
@blueant
You Citeh fans are completely paranoid. You are being treated like shit because you are acting like trailer park trash that’s just won the lottery.
Not only are United fans becoming weary of your cheap publicity stunts but it seems other club’s fans are feeling the same. I’m hearing even scousers agreeing with us. You need to start winning silverware consistently before you can come on here crowing about signing mercenaries or putting up childish posters.
hey that brasso joke was brilliant ! thats why i love being a man u fan we have great sence of humour ! oh just so funny .
BlueAnt – United fans think they are superior human beings? Er, what the fuck?
City proved their small club mentality with the Tevez campaign and that’s all Ferguson was commenting on, when he was ASKED BY A JOURNO what he made of it.
If you were being honest, you could probably recognise that your club’s decision to go ahead with this campaign does make them look small-time and overly concerned with Manchester United. This is fans vs fans, but club vs fans, and for any club to go down in to a dual with another club’s fans is small-time.
” i once heard a Utd fan say Jordi Cruyff was better player then his dad Johan!!!”
What the fuck is that about, what a stupid comment you are a typical bitter blue mate and need to jog on now before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
? why do united fans take yourselves so seriously ? why do you seem to mainly!! seem not to have a sence of humour ? why do you mainly!!! seem very angry ? we laugh in your face year after year after when we may have gone down and you win a treble , to me it seems as poeple your from different planet , we have mutch more wit and humour , yeh go on say it , you have to have to support city , i feel we have more in common with scousers than united , and thats the real manc fans i mean , is it that you dont like to be challenged?
” we laugh in your face year after year after when we may have gone down and you win a treble , to me it seems as poeple your from different planet , we have mutch more wit and humour , yeh go on say it , you have to have to support city , i feel we have more in common with scousers than united , and thats the real manc fans i mean , is it that you dont like to be challenged?”
BREAKING NEWS
City fans take delusion to another level. You heard it first on RoM!!!
“i feel we have more in common with scousers than united”
Er I could not agree with you more, thank God.
@ Scoot the red, “small club with a small club mentality.. that’s two statements… answer the first… small club never!!! the second is just your opinion! Can you not see the difference between the two? fucks sake!
@ rc7, i’m not apranoid, but i get sick of smug, cackling idiots who think they are something specialjust because they jumped on the band wagon.
@ stephen, i was replying to the Best vs Bell comment you fool! READ the POST AGAIN!!
Blue(R)Ant : ”GHTT… did i read somewhere that you wore a Utd top at someones evening wedding? ”
Q.E.D. – It isn’t just the club that is obsessed with United , now we know even their fans are obsessed with United fans . SMALL TIME CLUB , SMALL TIME FANS .
City supporters now have a dilemma. They’ve wrung all the sympathy possible (and impossible) out of English football’s higher echelons in the past decade or so, bannering themselves as martyrs to a club gallantly clinging on to its ethical soul in the face of the financial bulldozer nearby, and other clubs brazenly selling theirs to foreign pelf.
Along with the crap about being Manchester’s only true side they’ve nurtured this suffering (pity-seeking, really) to garner anti-United garbage based on feeble propaganda of other kinds: that it doesn’t matter United at worst matching City for support in the “city” of Manchester itself, as so many follow United from outside: that Ferguson’s only won things here because of the financial advantages, yet disregard his ten top trophies at Aberdeen where he broke that most difficulty of domestic duopolies to break – Rangers and Celtic, and THEIR relative financial prowess up in Scotland. And more.
Now they’re da richest club in the world via foreign pelf of which they earned not one doity dirham. Whereas United earned spending power from progressive football policies, furthering and sustaining itself from consistent trophy successes, ie, EARNED it, City supporters have a stark choice. Soul or dough?
And you know what? They’ll never be able to answer that to any fair-minded person’s satisfaction. They are simply eternal excuse-makers for a shambles of a club whose contemporary history of failure lies at their own door – from Swales onwards. It’s YOUR own fault; not United’s or anyone else’s. You brought your misery on yourselves.
And I just can’t wait as the brewing hatred, as opposed to the grotesque sympathy you fostered, grows and grows until you are the most detested club in England. Vain yet petty, and forever without even a soupcon of class.
The Premier League wouldn’t be the same without this kind of banter and rivalry. Top stuff.
@blueant
“@ rc7, i’m not apranoid, but i get sick of smug, cackling idiots who think they are something specialjust because they jumped on the band wagon.”
pot, kettle, black.
haha! spot on!
@ rc7 haha well i’m certainly not a band wagon jumper, but cackling idiot maybe, and yes Jonny the Premier league would not be the same without banter.
and finally @ Norton, the hard cold fact is if you get sympathy you’re a loser, i would love to be hated and be successful! call me what you like but I AM a realist!
From: Blue Ant, drinkin’ lotsa Blue Nun, methinks (you’ll remember that 33 years ago – if not ask Tueart).
“@Isaidso, so you’re telling me that in your opinion City are a TINY club when it comes down to history and renown? Do you know anything about City or in fact any other club apart from United? So if City are Tiny what would you say Altrincham, Walsal, Oxford are?
Sheesh, what about them? Though Oxford United did win the League Cup, erm, after 1976. So they have a more recent notable achievement than your lot. Unless you mean Oxford City. That’d be nearer your mark.
Blue Ant said: “but I AM a realist!”
Nah, you’re just pist.
yeah thanks Norton for your constructive comments yawn.
@Norton – you a bitter blue right? You should read comments more carefully eh? I said it depends on what a persons opinion is of what a big club and what a small club are. But I do stand by my point that IF we are talking silverware and History/renown, then yes Man City are tiny in comparison. It is my opinion, and if you are BLUE and on this Man United blog, what else do you expect to be hearing, that City are massive and have been for years – some hopes LOL!
@Norton, if your a Manc RED & not a Man City blue, but just disagree with the comment I made about small clubs – then apologies mate, for the wrong assumption of which club you support. I am a Manc and yes I do know the history of both clubs, but more about Man United’s of course. Not everybody is going to agree with SAF’s declaration that Man City IN HIS OPINION is a small club etc, but that football fandom, lots of differing ideology and opinions!
@Norton – OOPS, I just checked back through the posts, and I see you were answering Blue Ant who was questioning my comment about City being a tiny club, and you did a good job of answering. My brain is not in gear today lol, I seem to be getting wrong take on things – I apologise Norton!
@the Arsenal gun – City are not in Arsenal’s class either mate, and you lot better NOT let them put your club out of the top 4. I remember people saying last year that Arsenal would be out of the top 4 to Villa etc, and Man Utd would be beaten to the PL trophy by the scousers – and we all know how those prophecies turned out eh?
As a United fan for over 40 years now I do not get that too bothered about other suporters trying to wind me up over who is the biggest, most successful, better supported club etc any more. On a couple of points that have been mentioned on here:
I saw Best play at the end of of his time at Unted (last game v QPR) and he certainly wasn’t in his pomp as Bell was at that time. However, from watching games prior to this when he was at the top of his game, he could turn games and score fantastic individual goals out of nothing (European Cup Final 1968), something that Bell couldn’t (Rodney Marsh however was something else!). Both different type of players but Best was the definately BEST!
AS for the poster campaign. Let it go, it doesn’t matter and I find it quite humourous actually. Especially if they do not do much this season!
As for City going 34 years without winning a trophy, I think that even blueant doesn’t quite know the history of his club. Didn’t they win that MASSIVE trophy in 1999 the 3rd Division play off!!!
City have always had a chip on their shoulder about United. I love how they’ve always tried to take the moral high ground, United are no longer a club, just a merchandising business, and all that shit; well what are they gonna say now, as their club spends 200 million in 12 months all to put a smile on a terrorist’s face? Remember, at least the money we spend has been generated by the club, it’s our own income we’re spending, City are the footballing equivalent of Paris Hilton; trashy, fuck ugly, will do anything to get their face in the papers, and live off someone else’s money.
I think it was back in 2003 (I might be wrong, I have just woke up) and Noel Gallagher was on Soccer AM, we had won the league but they’d taken 4 points off us, and that stupid fuckwit was trying to be smug with Lovejoy, constantly bringing up the 4 points. It was all he cared about, that they’d beaten and drew with us, he had a smile on his butt ugly face all show, what a sad cunt! WE’D WON THE FUCKING LEAGUE AND HE WAS HAPPY!! Could you EVER imagine United fans seeing United finish mid table, and City win the title, but we hadn’t lost to them, walking around happy and smiling? Celebrating the fact that our city rivals were champions and we were nothing but they hadn’t beat us?! What a sad, pathetic existence.
Isaidso – Oh dear you are getting in a mess. Upsetting everyone today!!
Only joking mate, are you pissed?
Dazjoe – The Gallagher brothers are a pair of bitter cunts. Ian Brown> Gallaghers.
we acheive ther dreams, end off
Scott you are a genius! Couldn’t agree more with you! But remember City are a “MASSIVE” club! uuuh… scary…
Blue Ant said: “yeah thanks Norton for your constructive comments yawn.”
You’re very welcome. And I see it’s past your bedtime.
Isaidso: Re your posts in reply to I.
No problems, matey. My bit was A Tale of Two Cities, no less. He’s good, Blue Ant, ain’t he? Oh, yessum.
@King Eric, no mate funnily enough I’m not pissed lol, I tend to leave that until weekends! I have a bad habit of not reading back thru posts, but I think I learnt my lesson this time – haha!. Well until next time that is!
Fully agree! Benitez too arrogant!
You can see when they lead, benitez was start bull shit….It is good to see liverpool down….
MU is the best.
man city IS A MASSIVE CLUB….
it’s just our trophy cabinet is “MORE MASSIVE”.
@blueant: fuck off u bitter, miserable cunt!! have u changed ur name from bluenose? u sound just as retarded as that prick!! ur just propper pissed off ur club dosnt give u the overwhelming feeling of PRIDE and JOY wen u put their strip on…. regardless of where u wear it. im sure his friends getting married would have considered him wearing a united shirt to their wedding, my friends are fully aware id be likley to turn up in any of my many united shirts to their wedding/funeral/birthday/etc etc. u see cunt, WE’RE PROUD OF OUR CLUB, im proud of my family and its mancunian heratage, so wen i pull on that red shirt i feel my ancestors and the history they share with our illustrius and SUCCESSFUL club.
i can only immagine how u dont get any of those feelings wen u pull ur shitty skue blue city kit on, NO LOVE, NO PRIDE, NO JOY, NO TRADITION, NO HOME, NO SUCCESS. FUCK OFF!!!
I think Scott, you missed a very big point on why Everton is not a small club. They are the only club in recent years to crack the big 4. Only when UEFA got their arm twisted that Liverpool were allowed back into the CL to defend the trophy that Gerrard got them the previous year with a superb 10/10 dive
@ isaidso, no-body was making comparisons!!! the statement was “city are a small club” is this so hard??? In the grand scale of things they are obviously not!! lol You lot are hard work. But at least you give a effort at making a constructive post.
@ redevil1878 obviously you’re another classless juvenile! People who get “proud and joy” from wearing football shirts at weddings are beyong contempt. Back to the gutter scum!
and finally @ billabongbob, good post mate, and yeah i am not too bothered about WUM’s from other clubs otherwise i would not be here taking abuse from inbreds. And i do agree with you Best/Bell, and i do remember the playoff final as i was there. Wearing my shirt with Pride, but in the right place at the right time.
Dazjoe Said: City are the footballing equivalent of Paris Hilton; trashy, fuck ugly, will do anything to get their face in the papers, and live off someone else’s money.
LMAO
In the grand scale of things,BlueAnt,City are small.
blueant
i disagree wid everyone.city are the biggest club in the world nw.
its not that kaka,etoo rejected city,city rejected them bcoz cuntevez,santacruz,bridge are anyday better than kaka,etoo or terry.
mark hughes wants to reinvent attacking football.dats why he is signing so many strikers so that he can play the 1-1-8.whatever it is formation.i dnt knw.
@blueant, u probably r an inbred oldboy. im not sure of too many gutters other than maine road and i nor my family come from there. the only other i can think of is anfield and they certainly do not come from there. as a 33 year old “juvenile” i ask u, how do u not know my friends are also MANCHESTER UNITED supporters and would definatly not frown upon wearing a man united shirt wether it be a kit top or collard shirt? u really are a bitter ballbag arnt u? 34 tick tock tick tock….
@redevil1878,
Obviously your friends are all pondlife scum also then, just remember you can’t polish a turd fuckwit.
most of my family are blue… although i like to point out that the last final they were in was in 81, the year is was born..
Obviously city fans are retarded. Was on their blog sometime back and they were saying that they are the biggest coz they hold the highest attendance record. Can’t fill up council house now! Pity
Blue Ant:
Of course City are a big club in English football terms. It’s not about that, just the notion you and others have of becoming bigger, of overtaking United, Arsenal, and Liverpool all of whom are bigger clubs than yours and always will be. You might be able to level up to Chelsea, a club in my opinion possessing comparable past status to yours.
The spread of mass media in the late 50s and throughout the 60s – along with that era’s seismic culture changes – allowed ordinary folk access to a football knowledge not seen before.
These eras are the times when, primarily, true legendary status was awarded nationwide, European-wide and to a degree worldwide to certain clubs. This effect is unchangeable in the lifetimes of you and I, for example. It evolved from a mixture of success highlighted in this mass media, the individuality expressed by certain players along with the style of football played. There are other reasons like how this seeped elsewhere demographically.
But the bottom line is that no matter who is the richest and/or whether they can dominate for the next ten years, say, the status of the club’s I name will not change.
If any of these can be accused of losing their “soul” the point is, in being awarded high status (someone HAS to be the biggest as it’s human nature to give rank) back then, the cocktail of reasons for it included “soul” at least in some sense. You’ll not see this again. Because these factors were unique, it is indelible.
No-one other than City fans and their convenient adherents at this time from other clubs, will accept City becoming bigger because they will simply see any future success as bought, in toto. Outright.
You can win everything in the next ten years but your status relevant to (at least) United, Arsenal and Liverpool will not alter.
@ Norton, finally a good sensible, well structured post, i agree with most of it, apart from the ending, to some (example comments in this article) say the size of the club is based on success. so as long as the history books say “City win everything in the next ten years” then it does not matter what fans say, does it? You raise some good interesting points, but about City becoming bigger in all areas, i doubt i’ll live to see it, but all you can do is strive to become better and stay high as long as possible.
Blue Ant:
I’m afraid it does matter. There will always be a tale behind those facts in a book. And it will always be asked about.
On your “at last a sensible post” remark? You just stick to the compliments.
lol so you think the book will say “City have won the league over the past ten years but do not deserve it as they bought it!”, “whereas United won it without spending a penny” I will stick to compliments if you stick to unblinkered reason.
maybe afterall you still have the “arrogant untouchable ” attitude my first post was about.
“but do not deserve it as they bought it!”,”
Don’t be silly. It wouldn’t say that even if it should. And it wouldn’t need to be said as folk would know it anyway.
United earned their spending power, City didn’t. This is an important difference. It isn’t bias just fact.
“maybe afterall you still have the “arrogant untouchable ” attitude my first post was about.”
Hm. It took you 3 minutes to think that up?
you all sound like a spoilt child, if you win i’m taking my ball home boo hoo
well this article is now on page 2 so i’ll end it by wishing you luck for equalling liverpools record…. am i being genuine? who knows?
and finally i was away those 3 minutes giving birth to a new man U fan…
“you all sound like a spoilt child, if you win i’m taking my ball home boo hoo
well this article is now on page 2 so i’ll end it by wishing you luck for equalling liverpools record…. am i being genuine? who knows?”
Ah, the nominalist’s spoilt child. Though I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way.
“and finally i was away those 3 minutes giving birth to a new man U fan…”
A sperm donor, eh. Page 3? And 2 minutes longer than usual.