Roy Keane is refusing to buy in to the doom and gloom talk surrounding Manchester United at the moment, claiming even if we don’t win the title this season, we will bounce back.
“They’ll be disappointed, not necessarily just because of the result, but because of the performance,” said Keane. “Listen, Man United, for all the doom and gloom, they’re still the best club on the planet, they’ve got the best supporters and the best manager, so get behind your team, it’s still not over. City have still got to go up to Newcastle but they’re in the driving seat now. But United will always be United. To me, they are still the best and whatever disappointments they’re having at the moment, don’t worry, they’ll bounce back. They always do.”
Whilst United can’t match City for transfer spending, it is the wages that poses the biggest problem, with us buying young players with great potential rather than splashing out on more developed players on the top salary. Keane acknowledges this is in an issue when it comes to strengthening the team but insists there are still plenty of players who’d want to join our club.
“It’s one thing identifying a player you want to bring to your team but going and getting them,” said Keane. “With the transfer fees, but not just that, the big problem for United might be the wages because we know what type of wages Man City are paying. It’s going to be difficult but Man United will always be attractive to a lot of players and I’m sure the manager is looking at players who can improve the squad. You can’t just buy players for the sake of it. You’ve got to look at them and think can they improve what we already have. Man United have got some top, top players. Don’t worry about them, United will be fine.”
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Disgusting comments Keane. I’ve no more respect for him.
United!!!!
Talk about opening a can of worms.Hah Roy Keane the necessary evil!!!
KEANO
Off topic.
Teryy Vs Suarez the battle of the racist.
I love you Keano, there’s still only one
WIN,LOSE OR DRAW – WE’LL NEVER DIE
United are the best Club on the planet.
And Roy Keane is our victorious Legend.
Interesting stuff. It never used to be Roy’s style to come with crowd-pleasing platitudes. I wonder what’s changed. Could be he wants to restore his relationship with the ‘faithful’ after his bruising departure and some of the comments he’s made since then. He won’t make up with Fergie but he doesn’t want to fall out with us lot. Bearing that in mind I wouldn’t rely too much on his less-than-penetrating analysis.
have a look at that
http://www.football365.co.za/story/0,22162,14341_7732988,00.html
I really think Roy Keane lets himself down whenever he gets a mike in front of his mouth lately. His personal failures at crucial times in his life just seem to be eating him from inside. Thing is he has so much credit with the fans that all this could be put behind him at any point today 10 years from today. We would all forgive the lack jawed comments of the past few years. But honestly one does dispare.
The man just has to much pride to admit his own personal failures.
Somebody buy Roy a puppy. Drowning in his own beer at the moment.
Such a top top player. Such a respected captain. Don’t see him going anywhere but down in my estimation if he doesn’t get himself sorted.
Assuming man shitty beat newcastle tomorrow we need goals! thoughts on this line up (evans and wellbeck injured):4-3-1-2 DeGea, valencia(rb), evra(lb), rio, smalling (cb’s), yong(lm), scholes (cm), nani (rm), rooney (in the hole), hernandez, berbatov up top! Early goal and we could open the gates! Thoughts???
I love Keano! Makes me want to put my……..
on
I wont have the game ruined for me tomorrow as I intend to make sure I don’t get the Newcastle result and will switch on my Sky Go after United kick off and will have the whole game on mute and only then will I come on here after it’s finished and read the comments from the last post backwards.I know pathetic isn’t it.
Ramires ghosts in like a rentboy to flatten the dippers!
hello everyone
“May 12 will be my last game for Dortmund and then I will start a new chapter in Manchester United,” Kagawa told TV Osaka.
Kagawa another squad player, just another mediocre player to sell shirts in japan?
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson and his assistant Mike Phelan as well as Everton boss David Moyes were in attendance to watch Crewe Alexandra teenager Nick Powell play against Aldershot Town on Saturday, according to BBC Radio Stoke.
@George Joseph:
yeah, we buy him to sell shirts in Asia just like park…
@George Joseph:
yeah, we’ll buy him to sell shirts in Asia just like park did…
Keaninho has Bi-Polar….its the only esplantion
If Terry gets sent off, does he get to touch the cup? I suppose he would still get a medal.
People who tell the truth are always looked down on. I can’t stand blind loyalty, it doesn’t do anyone any favours. Good criticism is a good thing and I’m all for it. Sometimes you miss the wood for the trees.
There are enough sheepeople walking around as it is. Keano is still a legend in my eyes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9248064/Even-if-they-win-the-Premier-League-it-is-clear-Manchester-United-are-a-team-in-decline-rather-than-transition.html?
From a United fan too. Some grain of truths in there, but he leaves out owners which I find baffling. We’re not decline. Maybe instead of high profile United fans sticking the knife in, they should probably give the club some support. Yeah, I know! Crazy concept nowadays.
This transfer window will tell us if he has money .The signs dont look good never known a japanese world class player . Fergie said hazard could sign then city appear on the scene.We have no money and signing a jap proves it as long as they are cheap they will do
If people haven’t seen a player, don’t comment on his ability. Kagawa is top quality. He sell shirts too for the record.
Seriously, he’d improve our options. He can function out wide as well. Dortmund’s best player this season.
Who the fuck does Keano think he is, first of all he leaves Alberto in the desert and then he is calling is the best club on the planet. He is a bitter cunt
We’ve had some great midfield generals over the years and we need another one very soon!
Simples! (I wish)
Willie -
You can’t rule out a possible decline mate. It happens to the best of teams. Some recover and bounce back some don’t and become Liverpool.
There is a huge possibility we will fall into a dark decline when SAF retires, hell it could happen during SAF’s reign because of the ownership being such a burden on our growth.
For now its way to early to say we are in decline and I take back my “We are in transition” point I’ve used in the past. We are nowhere near a transition at moment.
We’ve lost a few players yes and bought a few but there has been no reshuffle to our core.
Kagawa sells shirt?
Where? Someone tell me where I can find his stalls please !
Preferably Red and white but Black cheques will do 
I’d like to purchase a chequered shirt
Seems more like an interview Keane would give on TV instead of a newspaper.
@willie
Thanks for the article. Some good points. Fergie himself said that we will invest in youth from now on. This should have been the season where we saw what some of these youngsters could do. But unfortunately, only Danny and Jones played a good amount of games. Tom, who isn’t injured, wasn’t even on the bench on Monday. Go figure.
You know this blog is very pro blazers, so don’t take your coat off.
liverpool 2 down! Yes!
@Willie & Clint:
it was my sarcasm answer to George Joseph if u dont get it…
TheCANTONA – Wasn’t referring to you.
I have seen Kagawa play and I was quite impressed by this guy. The lad has speed and can score goals. He could be a better replacement for Park who sadly I feel will leave this summer. Anyways I feel Something is better than nothing
fletch the man ? don’t think so !
I hope Roy Keane hasn’t been to big a failure in life for you !!
your estimations must be some target to reach!
That last post wasn’t sarcasm.
Drogba sticking it to the dippers! 
I’m also sick of death to see people keep saying big clubs buy asian players to sell shirts to asian fans. COME ON! We Asian people are NOT that fickle! If we have to choose whether to buy Rooney or Park’s shirt, i bet many Asian people will choose the former.
MG: MG United still the best club on the planet
Costas
I know you may relate to this……AEL have just won the Cypriot championship, seems like the first time in ages (44 years?) Being the local team of Limassol the whole place went bonkers!
They pipped CL wonder boys APOEL to the title………. This city has gone yellow for the night!!
MG
Can I help with your lingerie shopping darling? ha ha ha
Carroll done Terry(cunt) there. YSB
Giggs12Gerrard0 – Roy is the creme-de-la-creme of desserts! No Angel-cake though.
Pudding that aside, he’s candy with a cane, so exposed brownies get get their serving course.
Sir Giles
You always say it best
Cedars
Yes please Dear, may I help you with your horny unstoppable raging hormones?
Evening Cedars
Not over the line!
WillieRedNut – I do think united have been in decline since the double winning season of 07/08 season. It has been the 3 stages of hell for united, like this
08/09 season – the trophys came our way still, and we won the third title in a row, with strong results, but the quality of the football started to decline
09/10 season – not only did the football start to decline, but the results were no longer coming, players picking up injurys, players not stepping up to the plate. And performances in Europe were getting worse. ronaldo left the club, the club itself started to stop maintenance of the squad, and relying on players from the 06/07 season who were much older
2010/11 season – the only 3 things changed from the 09/10 season were? we won the title, we got to the CL final, and we were fantastic at OT. other than that, we continued to see poor results accept for OT, we continued to see lack of signings to maintain the squad.
2011/12 season – we spent 50 million, but it never solved the real issue of the squad. And despite a strong start to the season, united have been terrible. Shocking results home and away from home, terrible in Europe.. And the midfield does not have much blood for fergie to get out of them.
So we look at the 4 seasons, the squad does not seem to be learning, they continue to deliver poor performances, and this season it has come full circle. We seem to be a tactical disaster, the lack of legs in the midfield has been the factor behind the results against wigan everton and shitty .
@Cedars
Ah, I am more of an APOEL fan, but congrats to them.
Lets hope they are the only team in Europe that wins a title after 44 years!
But this season has been costly for failing to add more blood to the midfield, the wide boys and strikers can only do so much, when the midfield options of carrick scholes and giggs are 31 37 and 38
That’s what I love to see. A crowd of dejected scousers. Priceless.
Costas
Too right mate, lets keep such landmarks over this side of the world!!
MG
Evening honey!
So by the looks of it, it does look that Chelsea look like getting raped in the Champions league final by Bayern!
It also looks like Terry and Suarez would get some worthy medals….that of being absolute cunts!
How shit can Andy Carroll be…Like Rooney’s goal against City, defies description!
Anyways, I so much want UNITED to hammer Swansea and Shitty to drop points against Newcastle tomorrow…can’t stand those horrible blue cunts spearheaded by that Scarf wearing wicked smiling cunt Mancini!
B.E.L.I.E.V.E!!!
Got to love Drogba… Serves KKK the senile alcoholic twat right
FITB – Not disagreeing we’ve been poor at times, but not in decline imo. The 10/11 season? That’s 2 major things to achieve. Reaching the CL final, and winning the league. Doesn’t strike me as a club going steadily into a decline. We can’t win everything every season. As fans, we have to understand that. That ain’t a cop out either. If United end this season empty handed, it will be a poor one by our high standards. Even if we do win the league, the boss will act on this squad.
For Sale -
Job lot, 40,000 pairs of rose tinted glasses – Collection only.
Wembley.
As soon as man is born he begins to die.
As soon as a team plays well, they begin to decline.
As the first half of that game progresses into the entire season, we find 1000′s of declines.
There are just as many upswings. Over the game, over the season, all through our United life.
If United are going downhill, it’s actually to gather a bit of momentum for the bounce back to higher than they were before.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4298464/Joe-Allen-and-Leon-Britton-talk-about-their-phenomenal-season-with-Swansea.html
it will be a hard game against theme
Mancini quoted as saying that City are the best team in Manchester. Well they may be the best team now and then, but they will never be the best club in Manchester and he will never be the best manager. Bell end.
I wonder how the Board, SAF and Chairman will approach the forthcoming transfer window in terms of what they communicate with the media and fans.
It is clear that it will not be enogh to say that they are happy with what we have got, given the players we have let go, and are (shortly) retiring. If they say, once again, that there is no value in the market, then it is as good an admission of the lack of available funds as there is ever likely to be. i think they will focus, again on reiterating the United way of buying youth and potential, rather than established World or European class players. But in doing so, it is likely that most fans will see it as lack of money. If we buy somebody like Hazard, or Llorente, or someone who might show real financial ambition, then it will show that Gills statements year in, year out abou there being funds to spend, if the right players come along will be shown to be true.
Problem being, that we all are aware that SAF covets Hazard. If those blue twats get him then there is no disguising our financial limitations, and I for one would prefer it if they came out and be honest with the fans, instead of pulling the wool over our eyes.
I didn’t read carlpritchard@orange’s post properly the first time.
Just because he’s never known a Japanese world class player means precisely nothing.
How many World class Mexicans does he know?
Any player that has a first season as acclaimed as Hernandez did, is well worth having.
We don’t buy pre-made world class player’s anyway, so to write off a nation of potential top quality recruits is just plain stupid (and immoral, and presumably illegal)
What rhymes with orange Carl?
That’s about the value of your contribution here.
It’s good to see Keano saying something positive.
Littleche
Who a Sheik buys, and for how much, is no reflection on United.
according to the reports united will annonce officialy the arrival of kagawa next week
A Liverpool cup double this season would have been a bigger insult than when they won the CL the last time after a season that was more or less worse than this one. At last a cup final we were not involved in that will be easy to forget and that we can be pleased with.
Will be interesting to see if Chelsea can go onto win CL for the first time cause anyone that beats those germans at their ground will be worthy champions.
Albert Ross – Singing a Jap he said? Whats wrong with Kagawa? Or, is that too pc? I don’t really no anymore.
Cedars
Evening sugar.
Sweet
we went for Gaz we got King Eric
we went for Ronaldinho we got C Ronaldo
we went for Villa we got Chicharito
we went for Hazard we got Kagawa, eh?
Borussia Dortmund celebrated winning their second successive Bundesliga title in style with a record-breaking 4-0 win over Freiburg.
i watched the game kagawa was subed in 65 minute i think he will be a exellent addition to our squad,great skill and vision,i was also impressed with mats hummels top top defender
We went for shearer we got solskjaer. Thank fuck.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1172403-uniteds-most-20-breathtaking-goals-under-sir-alex
WillieRedNut
I don’t really know either. I think classifying a nation as ‘also-rans’ is foolish, possibly worse.
Someone did get offended, but I don’t expect any kamikaze retaliations.
Perhaps that’s not pc, it is so hard to know.
Just have to go with the majority of the voices in your head
WillieRedNut
… ps – Yes, he did say ‘Jap’, so I made the analogy of Mexico.
Get those coldlinks right here, right here!
@ albert Ross i have been a season ticket holder forb25 yrs this is the worst utd team for 20 yrs. how many of our players would get in city team and how many of them in ours (EXACTLY). We are are only in this position because of one man .
I’ll laugh like a cow if we end up with both Kagawa and Hazard/Gaitan and yet still no centre midfielder.
pritch the red
Good evening! Was that in response to something I said? I’m not sure.
Wow, 25 years, you lucky devil! I’ll bet you’ve some stories to tell, and even more that you have forgotten. I must have seen you a few times on the telly. Thanks for being there, I wanted to be by your side each time I saw your face and the faces of those Reds raging with you.
I’m not going to do a tactical analysis on cross-semination percentiles of the squads, but I guess that wasn’t your intention. I have never craved any player at city, so that exercise can simply be replaced by us keeping ours, and them doing whatever.
You refer to one man? Must be Sir Alex, surely? Or are you hankering back to Sir Matt?
As far as i’m aware, kagawa is a quality creative midfield player but buying him shouldn’t be the end of United’s work in the transfer market, we need to identify more quality and Strengthen the team.
pritch – But the point is(even though I disagree with your assertions) you are a United fan for 25 years? Surely, you wouldn’t have it any other way? Are we not blessed knowing we support United? If you really think things are that bad now, they can always get much worse mate.
Albert Ross – Thanks for the response! I can’t see any reason why we can’t say Kagawa, or Park. Sometimes we write stuff without thinking how it effects other peoples views. Me included!
We need to bring in at least three new Legends, some of these are past their sell-by.
Get a few fresh ones in, surely there’s value in the market.
If we don’t, then we’ll know that the Blazers cut our cloth to suit their pocket
I can see Kagawa doing one touch passes with Rooney and Welbeck. He’s very good at it. What I like about Kagawa is his quick reading of the game and his positioning is good too.
Kagawa, kagawa , kagawa…who gives a fuck lads!!! Its all bloody speculation for fucks sake! Has the club commented on anything about this Japanese player??? NO!…………..
WillieRedNut – that is so true. Fortunately, we have the opportunity to make immediate amends, once our gaffe has been highlighted. When it comes to player’s nationalities, I have learned a fair deal of what I know about different countries by following our multi-national team.
Even in the unlikely case that I was to develop a dislike for Unzbeknoktiznomians, the minute we signed one of their fair sons, my silly distaste would dissolve. Actually, I hope to marry one!
Oh! Love is so all-consuming and unfair!
Credit must go to Sir Alex and co for resolving the Van der Sar retirement so well.
Signing 2 young keepers worked, and they both seem excellent.
Stick to a winning formula, I say. Why change now?
Get another 2 young keepers in Sir Alex!
The look on KKK, stevie me and the gypsies face at full time. Keep me going for days .
Fergie changed his team selection at 5-00pm Monday evening when he new Richards wasn’t playing. Then he left out Valencia .
Redbilly
Your not fucking wrong mate, Kenny looked suicidal it was piss funny! I despise Stevie me but you camt dispute the talent he has been, and I love watching him have to suffer alonside Downing, Adam, Henderson, Spearing etc etc
Kawasaki has had a great season in Germany, United dont buy stars we make them! Who had heard of Ronny, Evra, Vidic, Hernandez, Nani etc before we signed them.
The kid looks like he has a right engine in him
Personally, I’m not interested about Liverpools failings.
I hope we don’t have glum faces at the end of the season though we have managed to console ourselves – well some of us have.
The only thing I want to see United do is absolutely go for it – and well we can’t ask for no more than that.
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Is there enough engine room? Can this guy still play? I suppose you don’t forget how to ride.
Does the club ever comment on speculation? Rarely and kagawa, unlike the likes of nasri/Sneijder, the move to united seem more likely (age = 23, transfer fee = 8million) and is more talented than park so people can’t label him as a shirt selling player or whatever that is.
We need to risk more young players, the likes of pogba (if he signs a new deal) e.t.c need to be given regular games in order to gather experience and be ready to own the stage. The potential kagawa move isn’t bad, just as long we don’t buy him to solely transform our fortunes on the pitch. More quality needs to added via the transfer market and through the youth system. The central midfield is in urgent revamp need, wingers with different dimensions and flair will also be welcome, strikers as wel. You can’t ever stop adding and improving, it baffles me when people say we don’t need to add anymore. Exactly why we’re stuck in a position of relying on legends who aren’t as effective as they once were.
We will win the league at Sunderland .There was a report this morning the Qatar holdings were buying in to Chelsea, looks like that ship has sailed we are stuck with the Glasers .
The clubs right to keep signing young players. The younger, the better. Fuck Platini, and the cretins of Uefa and Fifa!
ps Fleetwood Mac were some band?
I think I heard those rumours.
Hazard is bound for city surely? (him and his compatriot kompany, we can’t afford the wages or compete in the transfer market) but we can’t deny the fact the belgian has had good words to say about FERGIE (plus fergie was seen scouting in Lille) and if he’s indeed joining united (which is a massive doubt as i don’t know what’s going on) damn what a statement of intent that would be from FERGIE for next season. Maybe we’ll back to seeing some sumptuous creative fast paced football. Dreams!
Decline?nooo thats a very strong word ,weve one leagues and got to champions league finals
Transition?no,i dont think we are at all
The right word is probably being a team at a standstill…its either we will go forward by buying players who we desperately need in the midfield and left back areas and some established players maybe or we will just stay where we r and challenge every year but fall short due to our rivals getting much stronger and fail in europe where pass and go is the way forward now
I’d be happy with Kagawa. I’m not telling no lies!
Chelsea will buy big…city if they get hazard maybe rvp will be scary in all honesty….i like the look of kagawa but we seriously need more…wdnt mind ibra..or llorente…javi martinez…ahhh who are we kiddin am dreamin here haha!!
Standstill is not the word at all, unless you mean we have stayed at the top.
Are we the same as we have been for the last few years?
samuel – united WE stand
you are right mate hazard is shity bound,fergie will not take risk of bringing a unproven player for £35 m,and his style is similer to young&nani
i hope we can bring a strong cm like martinez or witsel
modric or snidjer are not the ansewer to our md problem,witsel would be perfect&his clause is resonable£20m comparing to the clause of martinez
Just read the telegraph report he said the 2008 side was fergies best side .Just shows what he knows did he see the 1994/5 side what a side that was if you wanted to play football it would play you off the park . If you wanted to fight it would fight you .if you wanted to kick it it would kick off the park .That side would have won at least 2 european cups .A truly brilliant side .City wouldnt know what would have hit it on mon nite
I’m not keeping a close eye on who we might sign, I don’t mind second-hand news.
Iced earth – FERGIE took a risk on rooney and ronaldo, they weren’t exactly established when signed, the club acted on their potential. Doesn’t that apply to hazard as wel?
Thing is with Keane he’s not consistent,one minute he’s taking shots next he’s praising Utd almost schizophrenic.Needs to make his piece with Sir Alex and move on
Albert
Yes since 2008 i think weve been at a relativly same level,2006 to 2008 we played some amaxing football,very unpredictable and very fluid and fast with ronaldo rooneyand saha then ronaldo rooney n tevez
I think rooney misses ronaldo i really do
Iced earth
With all due respect,hazard is nowhere near young in terms of style…hazard mixture of nani and ronaldo and will be world class under the right management
Young although he has scored some crucial goals this year is a very predictavle winger in terms of always wanting to get on his right foot and just hoof it in,he doesnt have the skills to really beat a man and is like ur typical english winger…lennon pennant walcott etc where ur based on pace and crossing
It’s time for us all to go our own way.
zigoo – what’s wrong with staying at the same level, if it’s at the top?
Sorryfor the spelling stupid phone….anyway i truly think if hazard comes to united fergie will make him in to the next ronaldo,with the right management he can go on to the next level….the lad is a top top topquality player
One weak link, can break the chain.
Agreed. Hazard potentially can be world class. He has more repertoire of technical skills to shine on the grand stage and he is without doubt a match winner (check his goal scoring and assists record). It leaves me bemused when people say he’s too lightweight, have people not learnt yet?. Ability and talent can’t be taught but physic can be improved on if needed.
I don’t know how many we need, but I’m not expecting the seven wonders.
samuel – united WE stand
i think he is good player but overated,he score lot of goals on penalty,and as i said he is very similer to nani&young
james rodriguez or gaitan would offer somthing different to us and the 2 expresese there desire to play for us,i am sure hazard will choose the money
Albert
Its obvious that with our current midfield which weve had for quite a while now we can compete in england but might fall short
But in europe,as weve seen this year we will get torn apart…and thats why we need progress in that area coz we looked to have cracked europe untill we fell spectacularly this year and i feel with work in that midfield area we will be right back up there and move on to a new level in terms of our style of play and having different options
No tusk tusking at the white elephant in the midfield.
Reasonably happy with possible Kagawa signing.
“We don’t sign world start we develop them” agreed.
And because of the culture like Park the player would surely be a devoted servant. Hope he gets it right for us.
Hazard is a very good pro athlete, but he’s no Babe Ruth.
As i said those leeches the glazers have a choice they match city and chelsea or the value of the club will go through the floor or they sell it hopefully sell it .Because the way the economy is people are going to think twice about going to watch utd .
I think kagwa , fellaini and a left back will be all we buy!
Hazard is out of reach only beacuse of city’s interference!
I don’t agree with this decline theory, fergie was hoping pogba and morrison step up. Neither pogba morrrison or cleverly have really stepped up. So I guess buy fellaini and hope tunni and clev come good is the way to go
zigoo – I’m not to sure on what is obvious and what isn’t, but I expect additions will be made.
I know that recently we may have lost out on some alleged transfer targets to some of our rivals. Most if not all of these players have chosen other clubs because they have been offered more money. If that is the case then on reflection I am clad we missed out on these players. For me any player who puts money before football isn’t a true United type player. If a player would rather warm the bench at Chelsea or City than try to make it at United then fuck them, it’s their loss. I would rather sign a player that Fergie thinks is good enough, regardless of his transfer fee or name, who genuinely wants to play for our great club than some over priced mercenary cunt. It should be the players who sign for the club that feel honoured not the other way round. I am prepared to give any player Fergie signs a chance to show his worth in a red shirt. In Fergie we trust. Never die.
Hazard is not overated ok his price might be over the top but we are talking about world class talent here….real paid 80 million for ronaldo and hes repaying them very nicely…gambles sometimes need to be taken…
35 million now but in 5 yrs u could see a similar sale to ronaldos…i think its quite a good deal for a player of his talent and age…dont forget we spent 30 mill on berba ,veron, and rooney and whts rooneys price now.and hes repayed it very nicely indeed
@Pritch The Red
So this is the shittest United team you’ve seen eh?
Did you think the same when we hammered Le Arse 8-2? Or obliterated Spurs and Chelski?
Fellaini would not work at utd…too slow and not great technically…one game dznt make a player
Cleverly tunnicliffe petruci pogba(assuming he stays) are four players with great potential, add to that larnell cole and the probable kagwa signing and we have a youthful midfield. What we really need is for someone to take fletchers place, and I think fellaini is suitable for that role. Give the great man a chance, he knows a thing or two about this
I’m hoping Nani’s gold-dust woman drives him onto a great season.
He’s slow, but he’s a tackler, we have enough flair we need a nutcase now.
Its ironic I said this on the thread about another great great nutcase
Tbh pogba can fuck off,hes taking way too long to commit,shows where his commitment is…despite all of fergies efforts hes just taken the piss…
We hav great young talent in the names u mentioned…but theyll need time…i dnt think larnell cole will make it…but the rest yes…
Don’t have time to watch all football so can’t pass judgement on Kagawa or if the hype on Hazard is justified,have to trust in people who know a hell of a lot more about what is required than i do
Something i’ve been thinking about wasn’t Utd getting results when Young was playing and hasn’t the teams blip happened since he hasn’t being playing regular.I don’t keep track of stats but since he’s been left out of the side isn’t that when the results went south? just a question i could be wrong
@pritch the red : I’m sure you have your reasons to believe so, but this horrible team is pusing city to the hilt in face of crippling injuries and illnesses.
Praise the heart shown by our club, its really what defines us. Players come and go. Good ones and bad ones but the club always stays true to its philosophy. That’s hard to find in todays era of chelsea and city like clubs.
If you feel so about this team , then i wonder what you thought of the team in 2005?
Iced earth – the james rodriguez might seem more likely to happen than hazard i must say. His agent is jorge mendez (nani and his bebe, anderson e.t.c are also clients of his). The porto wide-man is left footed, has flair and creative, scores goals and has been an important member of the portuguese teamg the potential is there and at 20, he seems the ideal player FERGIE might want to develop into top class. He’s been linked to us but i don’t know if FERGIE will be looking at his direction plus porto don’t exactly sell players on the cheap do they?. We’ll see but i won’t hold my breath just yet.
Gaitan is evidently quality but people still aren’t unsure of what position he’d play at united but it’s more likely a playmaker but can play wide. Rumours have been rife, his agent recently came out claiming he’d love to join united (fuck knows if that’s a ploy to increase his wages at benfica or if there is actually any ounceof truth in it)
Harzard might be physically similar to young or nani but i think he’s more talented than the ashley and has more in his locker to win games, nani can be class but infuriating but i accept him as he is.
Anyway, this summer’s transfer window will be interesting. I hope we avoid the “No value in the market” term by bringing in top players (i don’t careif they’re big names or not) and i also hope some quality younger players Will step up and be counted. If they can’t do it for us then do it for Giggs’s knees that are nearly falling off.
@zigoo : I’ve seen larnell cole many times and I do think he has the ablity to make it!
And if pogba does fuck off as you put it then we need a body to replace him, and I’m not a big fan of flavor of the month players, so think I think fergie will buy some unknown kid in that case! Maybe rasmus elm!
Re strikers : I think should berba leave we need one, but that’s if we’re sticking to the 4-4-2, and I have a feeling we might see fergie move away from this philosophy
Kagawa had been a starting CM for the bundesliga champions 2 years running. I can’t say i’ve seen enough of him yet, but no need to write him off as a shirt seller just yet.
Wait and see what the (rumored at this point) Kagawa signing has to offer. I hope he’s someone that can play a role similar to that of Fletcher’s. We don’t have enough ball winners in that midfield area and I don’t know if it’s wise to keep expecting from Fletcher and Anderson given their issues.
Eric
tbh mate i think pogba has shown the club no respect at all,despite fergie,evra and rio trying to convince him to stay hes acting as if hes biggger thn the club and just delaying his decision and playing with the club,id rather take any of the younger more commited to united lads who are less talented but want to wear the red shirt than him.
Hes like thhis at 19 on his first contract imagine what hes like when hes 24 pr 25!!!!!!!
Vidic and Fletcher missed almost the entire season. Tommy boy and Ando who were magical have almost been constantly on the sideline. Young started like a house on fire, lost his way after his injury. Phil Jones was touted as being “the next Duncan Edwards”, before his injury after which he lost his form. Valenica and Carrick missed the start of the season. Nani spent a lot of time injured. Welbz and Chico had their injuries as well. Smalling and Rio also been injured time and again. Don’t ask about the Twins. Lindy got injured when he was in form. Owen is perpetually injured.
Despite that, we’re still level on points with Shitty.
How exactly is this team in decline? Installed as pre season favorites by journos and prior to City at OT, EVERYBODY thought we’re certain for the title! Yet everyone is now saying we’re the worst under Fergie? What a load of crap!!
Give the lads the credit they deserve, it’s not that hard.
PS – the biggest injury is having a net spend lower than stoke for 3 years while City has spent 500M in the same period!!!
Costas
Hes more of a creative midfielder,david dilva iniesta type of player…from what ive seen looks very good..
I wdnt mind tiote tbh,looks the part as a ball winner
i said worst for 20 yrs
Jay spearing anyone.
zigoo
If Pogba had shown the club no respect at all, he wouldn’t be here.
Eric keane – agree on cole, little skillful creative technical player who is confident/Composed on the ball. Compared to other younger players, he hasn’t had a lot of hype surrounding him but it’s a shame we still haven’t seen more of him in the first team. I’d imagine a lot of the younger players will be on pre-season duty and then some will be sent out on loan.
I wonder what people think of oliver norwood? he said he’s been offered a deal for one year, he impressed on loan at coventry, could be part of the team for next season or sent out on loan to a premier league team.
Ok so after the 8-2, did you think this is the worst United team for 20 years?
Albert
So what do u call his actions then?
There are players who would die to play for man utd…nt less when u have fergie evra and rio wanting u to play and wear that famous red shirt!
If thats not enough for you,u should be nowhere near man utd…and i think sir alex is giving him the benefit of the doubt because hes young and foreign…but i can see him losing it with him sooner or later
This is the worst discussion in 20 years.
Pogba will surely make a decision in the coming weeks. I’ve said it before and will say it again, his agent has been key to all these shenanigans. If pogba stays then fantastico, if he fucks off to juve then au revior. Not much more can be done to convince him but i hope he chooses united and stop fucking about.
we will be in decline if this summer we dont buy some decent midfielders and keep pogba. we need martinez, schweignsteiger type midfielders as well s more technically gifted players. get rid of deadwood like park, nani who have failed and are not the quality united should deserve. if we win the title fergie should retire hes lost sight of the problems in the squad. people dont like saying it but it might be for the best. time for the great man to leave so we can build the new future with guardiola.
@zigoo
Maybe Fergie is planning to use Pogba in that capacity.
If of course his Royal Majesty decides to stay at the club. Last I heard, he was still making up his mind.
Utd will still end up champs so the squad can’t be all bad,the expectations and pressure put on Utd players is just stupid .Alot on here talk about other players and other teams yet Utd mantain a level of excellance year in year out.
Some of you fuckers remind me of trust fund hipsters who talk alot of shit and wouldn’t get a good nights sleep unless the bedsheets are egyption cotton,wankers
zigoo
Which actions? The vague opinions in the press? Our guesses as to what’s happening?
If Pogba had shown the club no respect at all, he wouldn’t be here.
As far as why Sir Alex wants him at United, does that matter? I’ll bet he has good reasons.
Personally, I don’t hang people because of some vague hypothetical unlikelihood.
Manny
Are you for real. We may not win the league this year and you want to ditch Fergie. How old are you 10?
Wayne – get a paper-bag and breathe mate. i don’t see nothing wrong with fans debating about transfer if’s and but’s. According to you, we might as wel swing to and fro on a rocking chair and twiddle our thumbs. This bblog would be as interesting as a pop corn floating around in the windy amazon forest.
Funny is it just me or has the season ended thought there was 2 games left yet it seems everyone is talking about summer transfers as if it’s all over,fucking does my head in,in a way i wish Utd would have a couple of off years just to get rid of some of you phoney cunts,makes me fucking sick
wayne! Just returned from the derby?
I have been wondering where you were. You did say before the derby that we were still right in it if we lost at city, so no surprise to hear you say Utd will still end up champs.
Haha true costas!!
Wayne
Chill mate lol just freindly debate…nothing else to talk about,
The more you struggle, the more you succumb. Declining interests in our club, don’t interest me. I won’t be a fair weather fan!
Manny’s a fanny! Only joking. You’re a cock! Bleeping away is your right.
samuel as far as i’m concerned you’re on of the most negative cunts on here the epitome of what’s wrong with the modern fan and the world in general a shallow cunt who has no sense of loyalty and supporting the the lads who wear the shirt.You really need to stop addressing me i have no respect for you
Looooooooooolll
It’s funny how anyone can know people through their usernames or maybe, just maybe they are part of a spy organisation and can verify the fake from real with a special goggle delivered from planet zorg.
Sorry, i thought it was a blog to debate opinions on united and not what you personally want to read. My bad. Let’s debate about how crap england will be in the euros.
Even Fergie is talking about transfers.
Look mate fergie is 70 hes not gonna be around forever and we have to look at the future if your not careful you’ll become like liverpool supporters. look at the present whens the last time we made a world class signing. the last decent season we played was when we won the champions league 4 years ago. since we let tevez and ronaldo go we have been terrible. i think poeple need to start realising the squad is fairly average except for a few player. evra is past it park isnt great good for having him run around for ages. nani has not been consistent enough and rarely puts in big game performances proved the other night. fergie got it totally wron in the big game again with team selection. i’m one of the first to say hes probably the greatest ever manager but I think he needs to realise he isnt seeing the problems the majority are seeing. when you get outclassed and played by bilbao who are mid table team at best as well as wigan and we did have our best team out just shows were united really are talent wise.
Samuel ur all whats wrong in the world mate lol
Manny
With all due respect u r a complete clown
you need to wake up and see reality mate. if you think this side will win the league next year im sorry to say it wont happen. shitty will strengthen and will win it more comfortably. the only reason were in this title is because of the mess they had in the middle of the season. wake up.
Manny – you say:
WE have to look at the future if YOU’RE not careful YOU’ll become like liverpool supporters
Your choice of pronouns shows me just how United you are.
Will you still be like a United supporter? Just like you are now?
i am you mug sorry if im not gramtically correct. truth hurts that why you start doing all this crap deflecting from the main point we are in decline. if you cant see that and think were playing good football then you are seriously in need of mental treatment. we got absolutely outclassed by barca twice and never learned
Wayne – Rather than reply to you like the angry neantherdal with a chip on his shoulder, i will calmly give my own reply.
I’m not here to earn your respect, i do not give a Damn who you are and what you think of me, you are nothing but a username to me just like i am to you, i don’t post for the masses to agree with me, i don’t let fools influence my post either and will continue to post how i want when i FUCKING want just so you continue to get pissed off and perhaps stab a duck or something? hmm interesting thought that is, isn’t? sorry maybe i’m getting too imaginative for your little mind.
I don’t know you, you Don’t know me. However my advice to you is to think before you go on tirades targeting me. YOU DON’T KNOW ME.
I wasn’t intending to address you but as i’m a guy that keeps no grudges, i thought let me enjoy some debate on a weekend but i agree with you, how dare i ever address you? It won’t happen again sir! (p.s – use the word ‘cunt’ for the right moments or you indeed look a cunt)
I forgot to post the link at 23:24, but Scott just made a thread about it anyway.
Manny? Your logic is a child’s logic. If we don’t concur with your opinion, that means we’re becoming like Liverpool fans? That last part is a hideous thought!
willierednut- we have to move on from fergie, hes been a great manger maybe the best ever but its time for him to move on and retire. we have to build for the future with a new manager what if fergie buys two-three player around 20-23 years old and next year retire and the new manager doesnt like them. sooner we start building the better.
Manny
I don’t care if Fergie’s 70 or 110 he is the reason we are still in the title race and not the reason we have not already won it. Do you honestly think that anyone other than sir Alex would have us still challenging for titles. Obviously Fergie can’t go on for ever, but we should be grateful for every single minute he’s still here. Ok so Fergie may have got the city game wrong but how many has he got right. Please don’t forget that your idea of decline is from a level that Fergie took us to in the first place. If this is what you consider to be a poor team then you are more like the Liverpool fans you accuse others of being.
Manny
You call me a mug?
Your cracked plastic chalice of drivel holds no sway. There is nothing reasonable about you.
Your views are pathetic and selfish. You show no respect for United or Sir Alex.
It is you who have learned nothing at United, yet you preach pvc poison so piously.
some people on here need to wake up and realise its a debate and not a slagging match. at the end of the day we support and care for the club we love. instead half of you lot are lookign for an argument instead of comin up with a decent conversation
Now that’s settled, i can post football again. My opinions and my view, you don’t like? well borrow or steal a blind fold and ignore it. I ain’t letting some weak minded cults on a blog influence my posts. It’s a free motherfucking world, well that’s what the west say anyway or is that another bullshit?. Who am i to know.
i aint gonna reply to your petty comments. i have the utmost respect for fergie and love for united yet who are you to say to me that im plastic you dont even know me
if i offended you for calling you a mug im sorry
Manny
You attacked me, calling me names.
Now you act the injured damsel. Yellow bellied coward.
It’s pathetic. Anyone with a different view gets jumped on faster than ants on sugar. small minded dinosaurs still think they are better fans than anyone else because they get drunk, fight and argue like hooligans and run around with wobbly bellies which swings in different directions. well people are more deluded than i thought.
talk about attacking you attacked my loyalty to united obviously ill reply
well said samuel
whatever samuel,the word debate and different views comes up alot in your comments mainly because you like to slag players be the voice of doom going into big games,just not a Red to me.Nothing to do with how dare you address me mate,just don’t like shallow cunts,those egyption bedsheets out of the wash yet.
I’ve been tracking your negative snide remarks for months,you’ve taken lots of shots at me without my name being on the comment,must think i’m fucking stupid if i didn’t notice.I figure you’d be much happier if Utd were more like City and sign every daft cunt that the press wanks over.I’ve also noticed your wide knowledge of every player that gets mentioned regardless of age oe league,fifa 12 must be quite the game,full of facts no doubt.
Ignore me and stop taking cheap swipes i’ll ignore you simple as that
one point people seem to forget is rooney refused to play for united a while back. thought he was bigger than the club. in the past fergie chucked players like that out. now he gave him a huge wage hike and let him get on with what he wanted to do. reason being we dont have any decent players to replace him. when beckham left we bought in ronaldo. he always replaced but these days it seems he doesnt. ie ronaldo, tevez where are the replacements
Manny
I am not saying this to get into a slanting match with you but can you pleas tell me what were your honest thoughts on United and Fergie in the other seasons when we didn’t win the league. (not this season) United under Fergie have always come back strong after disappointments Why should it be any different now?
That’s not much to discuss Manny. I don’t agree with you on Fergie. He’s earned the right to leave on his terms. Simple as that. Now, you can talk about something else, or just agree to disagree?
my honest thoughts is that when chelsea came he had players with potential to suceed. i look now but we dont seem to have many, nani was supposed to be the next best thing hs never really turnt up. we havent learnt from mistakes ie the last two champions league finals that the midfield is severly lacking class. bilbao exposed it once again. and in europe we were appaling. dont worry norman i dont see it as slanting actually pleased someone has decently wanted a debate.
Manny
It was you who attacked our loyalty, saying we are like LFC supporters.
Read my reaction in my first comment to you at 23:33
It in no way deserved your immediate name calling and accusations about my mental health.
You now act like I attacked you.
Man up. Apologise for attacking me for no reason.
Answer my reasonable questions politely.
Don’t throw stones, then hide in mommy’s skirt.
Man up Manny.
this bloke i feel got it spot one:
fergie is the boss says:
WillieRedNut – I do think united have been in decline since the double winning season of 07/08 season. It has been the 3 stages of hell for united, like this
08/09 season – the trophys came our way still, and we won the third title in a row, with strong results, but the quality of the football started to decline
09/10 season – not only did the football start to decline, but the results were no longer coming, players picking up injurys, players not stepping up to the plate. And performances in Europe were getting worse. ronaldo left the club, the club itself started to stop maintenance of the squad, and relying on players from the 06/07 season who were much older
2010/11 season – the only 3 things changed from the 09/10 season were? we won the title, we got to the CL final, and we were fantastic at OT. other than that, we continued to see poor results accept for OT, we continued to see lack of signings to maintain the squad.
2011/12 season – we spent 50 million, but it never solved the real issue of the squad. And despite a strong start to the season, united have been terrible. Shocking results home and away from home, terrible in Europe.. And the midfield does not have much blood for fergie to get out of them.
So we look at the 4 seasons, the squad does not seem to be learning, they continue to deliver poor performances, and this season it has come full circle. We seem to be a tactical disaster, the lack of legs in the midfield has been the factor behind the results against wigan everton and shitty
i did apologise if you looked. i said we will become like lfc supporters if we keep thinking oh we done it in the past we’ll be alright the key word in saying become
plus i never attacked loyalty not at once did i say are you actaully a united supporter. i just said we dont want to become people who live in the past like lfc supporters
All I hear is wheedling from you. Man up Manny!
You now say you just wanted a debate. So that’s it!
You are not here to discuss United with Reds, you came onto RoM to throw a contentious subject in the ring and show your debating mettle. You chose ” Out with Sir Alex”
You’re a devious, selfish user. We are Reds, here to discuss United.
Debates happen naturally. Your anti-United drivel sounds suspiciously bertie-based.
You are without doubt a cunt.
Know it. Understand it. Feel it. It is what you are.
Don’t know much about Hazard or where he plays. Presumably if City are interested then he’ll be playing on the wing? As they’re well blessed in CM and I can’t see him displacing Silva, Nasri who make the team tick. So if he sees himself as a aCM perhaps e’ll look elsewhere rather than warm the bench. However if he sees himself as a wide forward / winger then he’ll be replacing Johnson… not a tough ask. If this is where he sees himself we really don’t need him… We’ve 3 great wingers, maybe not all the best in the world but certainly good enough for a season to allow us to get replacements in for CM and LB/RB.
For all the talk about value in the market there’s clearly opportunities out there… In th last 2/3 seasons City have bought Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Barry and Milner for CM, Chelsea bought Mata, and Liverpool / Arsenal have all bought CMs. It just never seems to be a priority or we have 1/2 targets like last year with Schneider and Nasri. SAF clearly though we would have enough players stepping up with 1 addition. I think this year it’s clearly a different siuation.
I also don’t really see City competing for the same playrs as us this year. As noted above they are well blessed in CM. The suggestion is that they will just buy players we want for the sake of it, but eventually top class players will walk away and not sign as they won’t get the opportunities to play in the big games. Let’s face it if Hazard wants to be a CM and signs for City and is happy to sit on the bench picking up his cash, he’s not the kind of player any of us want un the team, or the player we need to drag us through big matches.
Well that’s my two penneth worth! We’ll take Kagawa, maybe Schneider and Gaitan… Job done!
to be honest ill ignore you and your childish ways.
Anybody reckon Moyes was scouting with SAF so they can start managing the transition? Perhaps Moyes is going to sit alongside the boss for a seasonor two?! Just a thought!
Manny
Having attacked Sir Alex, us and me, you will now ignore me.
For being childish.
Ever heard the word ‘hypocrite’ ? Look it up.
Man up Manny.
I addressed that post from fitb. You don’t reach CL finals if you’re in a decline. Don’t look at this season, and make a judgment call on United’s future. Don’t compare our spending power with city’s. Lastly, don’t write off Fergie and United ever. If you do, you fall into the ABU’s trap. Ask questions, as I do and have done, but stick by your club through this unsure time. If we were midtable, I would say some people would have a strong argument for a decline in United’s fortunes. Fact is, we’re second on GD. Still an outside chance of the title.
Watched kagawa,and he is a very creative player,score and assist goals.quick,tricky and loves united,ofcourse he won’t be our only signing and the talk he is here to sell shirts is bullocks,quality player there(not like we don’t need the money from the shirt sales durning this glazernomics)..some on here just want to criticize and join the press in the rubbish united in decline talks.We will never die and we are not liverpool…Spoilts many people
“You are without doubt a cunt.
Know it. Understand it. Feel it. It is what you are.”
Manny
You have stated the case for your argument well, but my point still remains. No team can stay at the top for ever and players come and go. We may not have the overall quality of previous sides but we haven’t exactly done an Arsenal or a Liverpool have we. I haven’t got a problem with anyone wishing to debate our teams so called failings but let’s not lose sight of the fact that however poor you or anyone else may feel this side is, it could conceivably de crowned champions by the end of the season. If we do finish second then so be it. I for one would not fell as confidant going into next season with anyone else in charge other than the greatest manager who has ever lived. If we were to change managers, would the new manager have more money to spendthan Fergie, would he get the best out of the players we already have, would he give the youth team players a chance. Please do not underestimate what Fergie is continuing to do for our club. I fear for the time when he finally calls it a day, for then and only then will we truly appreciate the brilliance of the man.
I’ll fight for Sir Alex Ferguson all day long. It’s not personal against anyone. If that makes me a cunt, or deluded, then so be it. I’m big enough to take those hits. Give me liberty, or give me death! I’m a Fergie manic!
Personally I don’t like Fergie, willie. Smoking body, but something about her face is a turn off. Whatever works for you though…
Pep is the man to take this team forward. Fergie has been great Im not having a go at his record but I think it’s time for him to move on. Pep has spoken of his desire to come to England. We may be second but i don’t feel we deserve to be second we haven’t played brilliantly all season the only time we do play well is when Valencia is in the team. We hear links with all these players but nothing ever seems concrete. We need a new lb a couple centre mids in their prime so it gives us time to get some younger ones blended into the team. We are always linked with wingers ie hazard an gaitan but the main area midfield we’ve only been linked with kagawa who I feel is very good but we need a player like keane who wants to win the ball wears his heart on his sleeve.
I want the Ultimate Warrior.
Fuck off with your Pep talk! We do not need that washed-up has-been.
If I was the man, I was 10 years ago, I’d take a flamethrower to this blog! I’m in the dark here!
Sir you are out of order!
Manny
Why Pep? How long has he been manager of Barcelona. How many of their sides has he built. One season when things don’t go his way and of he goes. He would probably be a better replacement for klu klu kenny than for Fergie. Take Messi out of that side and see how they cope. We lost Ronaldo, Tevez, Hargreaves and still continued to win titles. That was down to one man and one man only.
I love Roy Keane – LEDGEND – he has never spoken badly of the Club, he just did not get along with SAF in the end but he was amazing for United and I will never forget the man, love him for ever.
Re transfers – apprently City showing Hazard houses in Manchester – looks like we are out of it for him if thats true.
Pep went the weasel.
Has he even got a job?
Perhaps we could give him a 1-year rolling contract.
The pitch doesn’t like too much pressure either.
There is sense in whgat Keano says.
Pep? That man CAN’T handle pressure while having the best team in the world & choose to fuck off when the time has come to rebuild. Don’t forget He has terrible signing records too. SORRY i wont take Pep as SAF succesor, not a chance, not anyday.
Manny
You have been sussed and flushed.You were on a wind up tour but thanks God for the ROM faithful who nipped you on the bud.Peace.
Spoken like a Club legend.
If you lot knew about football you’ll be alright. Calling a man washed up even tho he won 13 trophies in 4 years. Nearly played every game of those 4 seasons. Built barca b team and introduced many to the first team. Wake up please and understand what the man has done. Barca has many politics behind the team one of the main reasons he left. Plays the game the right way.
Terrible signings? Pique, villa, alexis(who we wanted), ibrahimovic alves mascherano . All really bad signings. Seriously do you know much about football
Kids, look. The ‘last’ mammoth. You probably won’t another one of ‘those’ again!
Don’t tax the magpies! Let them take all the spoils!
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