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Keano On Playing For United Again, The Dressing Room and That Derby

Roy Keane has spoken to the BBC about his thoughts on the Manchester derby ahead of Sunday.

On playing again

“When football is in your blood or you’ve played for a great club like Man United, you still have your days where you go ‘I’d give anything to go back and play in one of those games, anything.’”

On the dressing room on derby day

“It’s fabulous, absolutely brilliant. That’s what you miss. That’s what you want to go back for. It’s pretty easy for the manager. Obviously he’ll have to pick his eleven but he can leave the rest to the players. I didn’t like too much chat. Everyone thinks I was a ranter and a raver, I certainly wasn’t. The players know, there’s that feeling in the air, that this is the game. You make sure you’re not going to lose it. When I play for United, we had a good record against City.”

On the dressing room after the derby

“I never lost a derby, thank God. Every time you play a big game there’s the fear of losing, but it’s a nice fear, it’s why you make sure you don’t lose. After you win some of the big games, I was never one for celebrating too much.”

On City or Liverpool

“With the progress City have made, if I was still playing for United I’d City would probably be the game I’d want to win more. When I was a player, City weren’t always in the top league, so it was always the Arsenal game for me, but City must be the game for the players now.”

On that derby in 93/94

“It was pretty good. Particularly because we’d been two goals down. I still remember the game like it was yesterday. I’d missed a couple of good chances. I was through one on one with Tony Coton. But we had some great players, like Cantona and Giggsy, so we knew we were never out of the game. When it went to 3-2, yeh, that was pretty good.”






 

210 Comments

  1. Philip says:

    We really miss a player like him now a days,

  2. King Cantona says:

    there is only one keano… one of the best captains of united..

  3. FletchTHEMAN says:

    I feel certain that Roy Keane will not need to worry much about “opposing players being overly friendly to each other on Sunday”

  4. Mickjk says:

    Legend to me that man is.

  5. kelvinchanpw says:

    fucking legend

  6. CedarsDevil says:

    Would love to see him in the shirt on Sunday…. Would make De Jong look like a little girl….

    Bloody red legend is our Keano

  7. CedarsDevil says:

    ‘We have been in this position so many times in the past. My players will know how to respond on Sunday’

    Sir Alex speaking ahead of the derby….. In other words if you do not respond I will fucking murder ya is the message by the boss

  8. soren says:

    Thanks CedarsDevil. you’re so sweet :) . Go United!!

  9. seanmthered says:

    There’s only one Keano. Fucking legend

  10. WillieRedNut says:

    He is sweet….keano that is. ;)

  11. ididnotzeeit says:

    God damn I love this man. “I never lost a Derby…”

    Legend

  12. soren says:

    ha ha willie

  13. CedarsDevil says:

    soren

    Always a pleasure…. Female loving reds have a special place in my heart. :-)

  14. parryheid says:

    1-0 molde good start for Ole’s team

  15. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Favorite Keano Quotes: “Will those on telly be remembered for what they’ve achieved? None whatsoever. I wouldn’t trust them to walk my dog”.

    Best friend;
    Triggs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicky Butt

  16. T4M says:

    keano!

  17. Red Devil says:

    @Cedars

    Hi mate…how are you….Good to see you back to your old self.

    You’re right about Keano making Big mouth De Jong look like a girl. I bet Micah Richards wouldn’t be mouthing off shite like “United are afraid” too… I also wanted keano to give that Curly Judas (King Eric Copyright) a whack in the course of the game (purely football tackle :D )

  18. WillieRedNut says:

    Of course, a legend. Cedars that is. :)

  19. CedarsDevil says:

    Red Devil

    Hello! Thanks for the mention my good friend… I do feel like my old self to be honest….

    Miss King Eric, Kings and smartalex here

  20. Red Neck says:

    Keano would give anything to play in the derby! Well we would give bloody anything to have him play too. Fergie sign him up. Twenty minutes of Roy Keane = 90 minutes of any one else. He would tear shity a new one. Legend

  21. Red Neck says:

    When the going gets tough the tough get going. That saying could have been written with keano in mind.

  22. Jeet says:

    Funny, I was just thinking that Keano is the one ex-player that I kiss most, more than Ruud, Ole, Cole, Yorkie, Beckham…and then I come home and see this article. 2009 CL final was the one game where I missed Keano the most- they just dont make ‘em like him anymore. Whole fucking world gone metrosexual…
    PS: LOL @ Wayne re: fattie on Jamaican beach – wish I was there too, mun :lol:

  23. WillieRedNut says:

    RedNeck – Billy Ocean?

  24. dannysoya says:

    I love keano to bits. The PERFECT midfielder for United in my opinion. Hard as nals could also pass the ball well and could defend like a bloody monster. the kind of player that makes oyu proud to support the red, white and black. please God A reincarnation of keano at United one day. Amen. THERE’S ONLY ONE KEANO!!!!

    COME ONN UNITED!!! LET’S SMASH SHITTY TOMORROW!!!!

  25. Red Neck says:

    WillieRedNut
    Billy ocean is a very wise man, top red too I believe. Had trials for United before trying his hand at music.

  26. WillieRedNut says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceqvi8fnZOk

    This one goes out to Red Neck and Roy Keane.

  27. WillieRedNut says:

    Who doesn’t love Keano? Mick McCarthy. :)

  28. Red Neck says:

    WillieRedNut
    Oh well the one that got away, nice suit though!

  29. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Keano was the hardest bastard to play for SAF.

  30. WillieRedNut says:

    Red Neck – Billy Ocean never parted the waters for me.

  31. Red Neck says:

    WillieRedNut
    Can’t say he does much for me either. Always thought he was a bit deep.

  32. WillieRedNut says:

    :lol:

  33. Zibbie says:

    A mans man. My favorite player. Seduced me to the Red army.
    A self policing looker room. Expecting to win, because the work has been done to succeed. A quiet intensity of a championship looker room. Eyes meet, of readied warriors. The knowing look of the victory to come. From the day before the visualization of their demise and our success. Not to linger in celebration of the foe, for that is what is expected, next.

  34. Costas says:

    Yeah, he’s never lost a derby has he? He was missing when we lost 3-1 and 4-1 to City in 02 and 04. If you ask City fans, there are 3 United players they are terrified of. Cantona, Keane and Nani. ;)

  35. MG says:

    Wait:

    Carribean Queen

    Now we’re sharing the same dream

    And our hearts that beat as one

    No more love on the run

    :lol:

  36. MG says:

    Keano Keano Keano

    Forever my Captain ;)

  37. Zibbie says:

    On another site years ago I saw a great quot attributed to Scholes, what was the scariest moment your experienced in football, I was playing bad this one big game and Keneo came up to me and said ” Your a lot more talented them me, don’t make me come up here to do your dame job OK!” Something like that, heheheheheh.

  38. Zibbie says:

    I must go for now but will read it all latter!!!!!!!!!
    GO KEANEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO!!!!!!

  39. WillieRedNut says:

    Keneo? Come on Zibbie, Keano!

  40. WillieRedNut says:

    MG – Good tune that mate. ;)

  41. MG says:

    Willie

    Touche

    She’s simply awesome :lol:

  42. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Ole’s team drew today but are 9pts clear. Hope they can close the deal.

  43. kiccha says:

    i never watched him play , only YouTube videos . . god i feel i have missed something so awesome :(
    hope tunnicliffe makes the grade . . he’s so keane esque that i thought it was how keane played . .
    that boy can make opposition ship bricks on a football pitch . . mark my words . .

  44. kiccha says:

    *shit bricks
    bloody typos :@

  45. WillieRedNut says:

    They broke the molde, whey they made Ole. As for Keano? He broke everything! :)

  46. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Zibbie @ 20:01, I echo your sentiments. I also became a United fan during the Keano era and much of my Red perspective as a fan is due to closely monitoring every aspect of his behavior as a United captain. No one can come close to Keano in terms of being a manager on the field. That is how influential he was to modern United, and it can felt by the reverence players like Fletcher still have for the man.

    In the words of Walt Whitman (introduced to me through Mass Effect),
    “O Captain! My Captain!”

  47. Red Neck says:

    WillieRedNut
    He certainly broke Alfie Haarland.

  48. WillieRedNut says:

    Red Neck – I thought that was a legitimate tackle mate. ;)

  49. Red Neck says:

    WillieRedNut
    Nothing wrong with it in my eyes, yellow card at worst.

  50. MG says:

    I didn’t see it :lol:

    No comment :lol:

  51. Costas says:

    “I’d waited long enough. I fucking hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you cunt. And don’t ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries.”

    ;)

  52. Zibbie says:

    Keano, Keano, I got in a hurry. fuck me and not in a good way!

  53. Costas says:

    “Keane, whose managerial stint at Ipswich was curtailed in January, believes it is all part of a shift in dynamics in the game with the players wielding the power. He added”:

    “There are certainly not as many characters around in the game, the type of players (who) properly roll their sleeves up and get stuck in.

    “Every player seems to have a bit of a fit when he is taken off or not brought on.

    “A lot of them are going soft so it is very difficult for the managers – everyone seems to be commenting on what a manager should do with a player.

    “But it’s very difficult, the player is in a very strong position with contracts, the PFA”.

    ————————————————————-

    Funny how Roy has always moaned that players are like pieces of meat and now his moaning that they have too much power. Irony. Me likey. :P

  54. TonyBee says:

    Some idiots, and even Haagland himself, maintain that it was that tackle that ended Haagland’s career….utter bollocks it was his other leg that got fucked a full 6 months later that did for his career,,,,the lying snivelling toe rag……

    I saw that game and even then I just knew that if Keano got the chance he was gonna take his fucking head off……..

    even now if I am down in the dumps and want cheering up I go on to Youtube and watch that tackle…..makes me smile every time…..

    Kabang……. take that you cunt….. :lol:

  55. TonyBee says:

    come on be honest …. wouldn’t we all like to DO someone like that…..I KNOW I WOULD…..

  56. markg says:

    KEANO Alf inge ARRRAAGGH

  57. 3Generations says:

    Kean = fucking legend
    tis a shame we shall never see his like kick a ball (or opponent) on the field of play again…
    bring on Sunday and those deluded bitters
    we shall prevail
    believe 20

  58. Zibbie says:

    The great thing about playing games like Football, Rugby, American Football, Hockey and Wrestling or MMA is you can do shit, that in the real world would get you 3 to 5 years in jail !!!!

  59. TonyBee says:

    Fred….gotta be one of the greatest revenge hits of all time and the only man with balls enough to actually do it……

  60. Zibbie says:

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

  61. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Keano was a great player….shit manager :lol:

  62. Zibbie says:

    Keano has King Kong size balls!!!!!

  63. TonyBee says:

    Zibbie …you really had to understand the whole story ….when you do it makes his tackle even sweeter…..

  64. TonyBee says:

    He has been a shit manager at shit clubs…… if he was given a bucket full of money and a decent time to accumulate a team ….he would build a team of hard-cases that could play AND put it about…….

  65. Red Neck says:

    Haarland was fucked the second he told Keano to get up, he just didn’t realise it then.

  66. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @Papii, At the time when he was with Sunderland, I thought he would be ‘the’ man to replace Sir Alex. But then he showed he was too temperamental to be a manager at a club like United. That in itself is enough to highlight just how much of a treasure Sir Alex has been and still is. He has all the raw qualities that Keano has, but his managerial skills are on another plane altogether. Keano thinks he can be just a disciplinarian, and I don’t think it is that straightforward when it comes to management. Despite his great work at Sunderland, it is hard to see him being anything more than a Championship/Mid-Bottom PL manager; as sad as that makes me feel.

  67. MG says:

    I believe that wisdom should emphasise the way of thinking when responding accordingly to hate.

    Sometimes however you just have to do a Keano

    God bless him the best Captain I ever saw for United

    :lol:

  68. TonyBee says:

    The only man on the planet who knows what it was like for Gadaffi, shitting himself in a tunnel:

    Patrick Viera.

  69. WillieRedNut says:

    He done a good job at Sunderland. Got them promoted. That where he left them. Not like he got the makems relegated. ;)

  70. TonyBee says:

    According to papers, Roy Keane’s dog, Triggs, who recently died of cancer was described as “a calming influence on him over the years”.

    Imagine how many more legs he’d have broken and careers he could have ended if he never had a dog!

  71. WillieRedNut says:

    Big Pat shit his trunks in the tunnel. Skid marks everywhere.

  72. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    I will never forget the look on Keano’s face in the tunnel. Viera had been marked for death in that match.

  73. redrider says:

    priceless TonyBee…

    miss those days. My hero.
    :’(
    x(

  74. WillieRedNut says:

    I remember Rooney’s face. It didn’t faze him. Young kid, he was then lol. Probably said to himself, I’ll have some of this, thank you. :)

  75. gerkeo says:

    Speaking of hard as nails captains, happy 30th birthday Vidic

  76. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    One of the best tributes I’ve seen in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tf6mrA0-tA

    The thought of Roy Keane and Paul Scholes in the United mid-field flanked by Beckham and Giggs just gives me the goosebumps. At the time Becks had the best right-foot in world football, Giggs was the best left-winger, Keano was the best DM (of any era), and Scholesy was the perfect man to pick out our wingers. I may be wearing my red-tinted glasses here, but I don’t think there has ever been a better, more-coordinated, perfectly-synchronized mid-field 4 in the history of football.

  77. CedarsDevil says:

    Best United captain? No, far from it….. For me Robbo will always be our best ever captain followed by Cantona… Keano is a close third best in my life time at least

  78. utd_fc says:

    Couldnt agree more Balaji. Just imagine if we had that midfield now. And maybe cantona and Rooney partnered up top. Or maybe van nistelrooy. Thinking about it gives me chills.

  79. CedarsDevil says:

    You guys want chills and goosebumps? Imagine a midfield pairing of Robson and Keane. Would scare the shit out of any team

  80. WillieRedNut says:

    Keane will always be number one for me. Cantona was a great player. I’d say he was a good captian, but not great. Not on Keane and Robbo’s level.

  81. CedarsDevil says:

    Where the fuck are Kings, King Eric and smartalex? For fuck’s sake fellas come back…

    Furthermore where the fuck is everyone in general? I honestly do not have BO! hahaha

  82. WillieRedNut says:

    Like to add though, I hate comparing things like this. They all played their part for the club we love.

  83. CedarsDevil says:

    The ever lasting debate, Cedars & Willie part 6….

    Robbo or Keano?

    No answer to that debate, both United legends and forever will be… (Robbo is slightly better though!)

    :-)

  84. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    I really liked what you added…. Well said

  85. keano99 says:

    Keano the only man to win a game in the tunnel, I will never forget the look on the arsenal faggots faces and thinking to my self this game is won. Wish we had him now.

  86. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Robbo and Cedars would’ve been fucking murder, Cedars, my friend; but it is a hypothetical partnership.

    The four I mentioned played together for a long time, and IMO, they are the best MF-4 I’ve ever seen in any team in general. Individually, some players may have been better than each of those 4 in their respective positions, but as a collaboration of four players, there hasn’t been a better set of players than Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs. Period.

  87. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Fuck, I meant Robbo and Keane. Though I can imagine Cedars’ imagination running wild at the thought of being paired with Robbo. :)

  88. WillieRedNut says:

    Cedars – Smartalex was on here last Thursday. I haven’t seen Kings in a while. I hope to see all 3 back here where they belong. The place needs them.

  89. WillieRedNut says:

    Robbo and Cedars? :lol: Tough midfield, that would be! :)

  90. CedarsDevil says:

    Balaji – Great slip up my friend! Me and Robbo? hahaha Fucking murder indeed….. hahaha
    Have to agree with your midfield buddy, was a dream foursome no doubt.

    Willie – This place needs them indeed, I miss the buggers

  91. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    :lol: CedarsRedNut is on the loose

    Balaji – Keano did some great work with Sunderland but he couldn’t replicate it with other clubs and makes a alot excuses like ownership,player power, funding etc. He’s a manager, so he should get used to managing the resources he has. Anyways he’s a terrific Pundit now and has age on his side to come good as a manager.

    Keano & Robson are monsters, cannot choose between them, great captains and club legends.
    If only one of our current batch of midfielders had half the balls they had. I had high hope for Fletch after his bullying of Arsenal and handbags with Micah Richards but the lad needs to do more like grab gerrard by the throat, hit lampard with a hip-high scissoring slide tackle,headbutt Alex Song,Elbow Cunterry in the face during a corner.

    Ahh the days when Scholes would tear into a guy who cleanly tackled him. The Dark side he had fully embraced, hope Zabaleta has had a emotional breakdown when he looked at the scars Paulie gave him.

    Where The Fuck Is The Dark Side !!!
    Hope Hargreaves plays, break a leg,

    :lol:

  92. WillieRedNut says:

    CedarsRedNut. :mrgreen:

  93. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    Robson was a better football player than Keane, both great leaders and legends mind you….

    CedarsRedNut? hahahahaha You always put a smile on my face with your posts buddy

  94. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    This is becoming creepy, I am serious!

  95. T4M says:

    im not feeling confident ahead of sunday’s game.i fear for our midfield.i really do.

  96. CedarsDevil says:

    T4M – Just use your dots, should make you feel ok! :-)

  97. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Balaji -
    “there hasn’t been a better set of players than Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs. Period.”

    Its quite obvious you stopped supporting United during our glory years from 2003-2006.

    The greatest Midfield we had was the irresitable foursome of : Fortune, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Richardson.

    Phil Neville & Nicky Butt really struggled to break into that midfield. Keano’s career was limited to cheap appearances out of sympathy, Ronaldo was very young, Smith was only just finding his feet, Giggs was young (29).

    What a time to be a United fan….

  98. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @Papii, Oh, those were some of the best days of my life as a United fan. :lol:

  99. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    Fortune was a decent player to be fair

  100. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    :) Thanks Cedars, ever since you changed your name from Wolfie you have been the star of RoM.

    T4M – I see where your coming from mate but a bigger problem that has to resolved is the lack of……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Im sure many would agree with me on this one.

    ;) :lol:

  101. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    WilliesDevil –
    Decent player yes, great pundit aswell, always looks like he wants to get laid by the presenter on MUTV.
    :lol: He was the decent one out of a bad bunch, Kleberson had me pulling my testicles, Djemba x2 was soo god damn aweful I would instantly regret mentioning the lad in conversations because his terrible named needed pronouncing twice as if I got it wrong the first time.

    Eric Djembe….oh fuck sakes Djemba ! Bloody Typos’s !!! :twisted:

  102. CedarsDevil says:

    Can anyone really name their best ever United 11? Doubt it….. We’ve been blessed with so many greats over the years…. Who do you leave out? Sir Bobby? Law? Best? Cantona? Cole? Rooney? Scholes? Robbo? Ole? Keane?

    Its impossible, why? We are the best that is all…. We have created greatness over many generations and over many years…… Every 11 that wore the shirt are great, great because they represented the best ever football club that existed

  103. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    Indeed, me Wolfie, Willie and Cedars…… Talk about split personalities!

    hahahahahaha

  104. CedarsDevil says:

    A nice tribute to a great captain…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tf6mrA0-tA

  105. CedarsDevil says:

    Fucking love ya Keano

  106. WillieRedNut says:

    Me, myself and I. ;)

  107. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Don’t forget Brucie,Hughes, Ruud WTF where’s giggs Mate ! :lol:

    I read an article a while back, the sLegends XI between United-Liverpool. Hell they put Hansen in it, Dalglish & some cunt just to balance it out :lol: We have so many greats that have graced our team.
    I just wish I was born during the Busby Years, that period was 25-30 years before my time :(

  108. brett1985 says:

    Can’t say I’ve ever imagined the day whenever I would click on wikipedia…

    Roy Keane is a former professional footballer
    Paul Scholes is a former professional footballer
    Gary Neville is a former professional footballer

    etc. Those were the days. Keane was unsurpassed as a captain.

  109. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    Was obviously a generic list mate…. It partly answers my original query in a way!

  110. Costas says:

    Stevie Me and Lampard are also former professional footballers. It’s just that the information from their legs to their body takes forever to get there. ;)

  111. brett1985 says:

    Costas

    Aye times are a changing.

    Well this is the biggest derby since, I guess, the last biggest derby. Roy Keane in the midfield tomorrow would be just the ticket. We do miss these players but new stalwarts will emerge.

  112. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @Brett, ya mate, what a killer :(

    Maybe next year we can see the following:

    Roy Keane LEGEND
    Paul Scholes LEGEND
    Gary Neville LEGEND :lol:

  113. WillieRedNut says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=afp-fbl_eng_pr_manutd_liverpool_ferguson_evra_suarez_20111021

    FA tell Fergie and United to button it, over the Evra/Suarez racist claims. The same FA that are always caught spilling the beans over everything in English football lol. Hypocrites.

  114. wayne says:

    I really thought Keane would end up being a Utd lifer,learning coaching become Sir Alex’s number 2 to be groomed to take over.It was a sad ending and the things that have been said since,still a bitterness.
    Ultimate competitor and completley committed,my favourie Keane moment was in the tunnel against the Gunners,thought he was going to kick off against Vieira,talk about being up for a game.Keane was a nutter lol
    If any of this has been said didn’t mean to copy,haven’t read the posts yet,just my thoughts

  115. Sparkz says:

    I agree with Balaji….the Becks-Keano-Scholesy-Giggsy midfield quartet was near perfection. It had everything you want from a midfield….crossing-check. Passing-check. Tackling-check. Energy & steel-check. Dribbling-check. Goals-check.

    Magical.

  116. WillieRedNut says:

    Medals – check. ;)

  117. Caro says:

    Keano, a legend forever.

  118. wayne says:

    @Jeet hi mate,supposed to be a snowy winter,i really need Club Paradise

  119. YorYor says:

    Keano couldn’t take the pressure off the pitch I guess… it’s a different kind of pressure, and not everyone can hack it. I think he’d be great as an assistant though, just for the mental toughness without the pressure of expectations.

  120. NBI Red Onion says:

    Sad that things ended the way they did with Keano, leaves a slightly uneasy feeling. However he is a strong agressive leader, so is SAF, and there can only be one chief. Cowboy architechts made sure towns were only big enough for one big cheese. He will always be a leg though.

    Having listened to him since he left I am convinced Neville rather than Keano is the right man to boss United. I hope he does not stay on the couch and waste his ability. Come on Nev, come back to United and start coaching.

  121. Doghouse says:

    It might be 430am, and I might well be shitfaced. But City are scum and the entire club, it’s fans and it’s owners can eat my arse. That is all.

    You have a good night people.

  122. JC says:

    @StatesideAussie – you made my day with your comment on the Telegraph article ranking the players, spit diet coke all over my LCD mate.

  123. JC says:

    Ian Ashton
    Today 02:15 AM

    A win for Manchester City with a hat-trick from Tevez

    StatesideAussie
    Today 02:30 AM

    Ah! But a hat-trick of what, exactly? Goals? Tantrums? Restaurant reviews?

    **pure class my friend pure class**

  124. Ancha says:

    “There’s a skill in tackling and nailing people. Yellow cards are fine, you need to worry about the red ones. You can still leave your mark on a player but when I see United games now, even against Arsenal, everyone’s being nice to one another. Everyone’s gone a bit soft.”

    that production line was stopped long back!

    hello Cedars..

  125. theboogeyman says:

    willie- I saw your mention of me on the Rooney thread, you have a good memory lol.

    King Eric- Hello sir. I think you should come back to RoM soon. Not all us kids are cunts, after all.

  126. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning all, one day to go… Will have to make do with whatever is on today. Its nice watching football at times without any emotional pressure…..

    Hi Ancha, hope you are well my friend….

    theboogeyman – Where have you been buddy?

  127. CedarsDevil says:

    Come on Molde… 4 points needed from 3 games to be sure of winning the league…

    Ole you beauty

  128. CedarsDevil says:

    As much as I love Hernandez I really hope Welbeck starts tomorrow…. This game will mean a lot for the lad and he will know more than most what it means to us.

    Furthermore, where on earth are everyone?

  129. CedarsDevil says:

    Best I piss off and do something useful, babe watching from my balcony seems like a good idea! hahahaha

    Will check in after a couple of hours……..

    Love you all red friends

  130. Sandeep1878 says:

    Good morning ROM , Red Devils and CerdarsDevil..

    Excellent work by our 20 legend..

    i read that he is top target and priority for Pompey job?

    I would be thrilled for him to see at Fratton park though i know he will be getting plenty more options if makes himself available..

    but i want him to start with a championship side and bring them to PL..that would be some achievment for high profile player and excellent manager like Ole..

    too early but when Sir Alex Ferguson shown so much faith in Ole that i can believe he can do anything..

    waiting for the lovely days ahead..

    Have a good day red devils..

    Manchester United..

  131. parryheid says:

    New day,same opinion.We have the best right back by a country mile who should have been played last week and defo should be playing this week.It appears yesterday this is a statement that causes some offence maybe today objectors will explain sensibly why they find that offensive.Shouldn’t be hard if they are sure of their ground.

  132. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    @King Eric

    Mate you need to get your arse back on here even Keano has finally come round and started loving United again.

    Mate it is Derby day tomorrow and I need to fuel of your hatred, listen I dont mean this but this is just to get you re engaged

    Morrison is shit and will never make it
    Pogba is a poor mans Neil Webb
    Tunnicliffe is a yard dog we should have signed Joey Barton

    Oh and yeah Cantona was overated im more a Veron fan by the way

    The king is dead long live the king……………..

    Mate get the fuck back on here the site needs reds like you

  133. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Hello my friend…. Personally I find it difficult in my heart to call Hughes a cunt…. The memories I have of him as a player for us will not be easily forgotten. Yes he managed City and had his moments against us but that should not undermine what he did for us as a player.

  134. Paul Parker says:

    Easy RoM.

    @Denton – I always had Nani ahead of Tony, even though Tonys performed brilliantly with assists and goal contribution relative to his fee/wages. Also, Youngs been top class for years, and his goals and assists have been better than any of our midfielders since Ronaldo left. As for Berbatov, fuck knows mate! I wouldn’t play him tomorrow purely because its been too long since he last played. But your right a year makes a hell of a difference. I think we’re stronger this year, and we’ll get even stronger imo.

    @Willierednut – you couldn’t make it up mate. Daglesh tells the press that Suarez doesn’t dive, doesn’t cheat and isn’t a racist. No problem with that, but before our manager even says anything about Pat, the FA are writing to tell him to shut up until the investigation is finished. Very bizarre, considering LFC clearly didn’t receive similar instructions not to talk about the allegations either.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=afp-fbl_eng_pr_manutd_liverpool_ferguson_evra_suarez_20111021

  135. Sandeep1878 says:

    Kings and King Eric,

    you guys better come in or we goin on strike in ROM..

    Costas,

    hello buddy,

    thanks for the link, yeah what a cunt, i dint expect that fromk Sparky as well..

  136. CedarsDevil says:

    Paul Parker

    The FA are not bizarre, they are freaks of nature!

  137. CedarsDevil says:

    Sandeep

    Hughes is no cunt buddy…… Great player for us he was, watched him live endless times and he was special… He moved on and so should we, a cunt he is NOT

    We should respect what previous players did for the club, please!

  138. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    @Sandeep

    Mate thats a shout so is Kings on strike as well fuck me whats happening come on chaps its City tomorrow

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

    Oh every single one of us we fucking hate city we fucking hate city we fucking hate city, oh every single one of us we fucking hate city, we fucking hate city

  139. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Hi mate. I won’t take anytthing away from Hughes the United player, but as a character in recent years he’s been nothing but a disappointment. He acted like a bitter when he was managing Shity, he abandoned a football club because it was RUMORED that Villa were interested in him and now that his word isn’t worth a damn to any club owner, all he does is sit around and take shots at Mancini. I wonder why…

  140. CedarsDevil says:

    giggs12gerrard0

    Alright mate? I concur we need them buggers here

  141. Sandeep1878 says:

    Ashley Young: “At 26, the only thing young about me is just my name”

  142. Sandeep1878 says:

    Arsenal’s Aaron Ramsey scored against Manchester United. Next day Bin Laden was killed.

    Ramsey scored against Marseille. Next day Gaddafi was killed.
    Who will be Ramsey’s next victim? :P

  143. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    @Cedars

    Agree about Hughes he was class for United and who cares what he has done as a manager why wouldnt he is a professional.

  144. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    I hear you my friend, I am not justifying what Hughes did after leaving us but I will forever be grateful for what he did to us as a player…. Just my opinion…. I cannot hate him to be honest

  145. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    Their gonna die their gonna die Man Shitty are gonna die, how we kill them I dont know cut them up from head to toe all i know is city’s gonna die.

    Their gonna die their gonna die Man Shitty are gonna die, how we kill them I dont know cut them up from head to toe all i know is city’s gonna die.

    Their gonna die their gonna die Man Shitty are gonna die, how we kill them I dont know cut them up from head to toe all i know is city’s gonna die.

    Their gonna die their gonna die Man Shitty are gonna die, how we kill them I dont know cut them up from head to toe all i know is city’s gonna die.

  146. Costas says:

    @Sandeep

    Morning pal. Well to be honest, I’ve learned to expect the worst from Hughes in the last few years. Instead of standing up for his fellow colleague like most managers have, he accuses him of thje Tevez saga because he’s still bitter about being sacked from City. I don’t know if Mancini is an autocrat or not, but the guy has been a manager at the top level for years. I think he knows a thing or two more about managing players than Hughes does.

  147. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    Use your head and use feet whoo whoooooo
    Use your head and use feet whoo whoooooo
    Use your head and use feet whoo whoooooo

    10 blue bastards at my feet whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  148. Sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    Hello buddy, the cunt was for tevez..

    the next line ” i dint expect thst from sparky as well “, only that part was directed at Sparky,

    the special word cunt is reserved for tevez, davies, terry, morgan,balotelli…

    I have no grudge against Sparky for either managing city but him behaving in unexpected manner off late, but i was kinda disappointed,

    apologies if i caused you hurt..

    Manchester United

  149. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Trust me mate, it’s not easy for me either when I see players that I idolized (and Hughes was one of them) embarass themselves. Hughes isn’t the only one mind you. As willie may attest, I’ve often taken shots at Keano and some of his comments. If I am harsh, I guess it’s because I expect better from them.

  150. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas & Sandeep

    Very rare that we disagree, in fact almost never…. But do cut Hughes some slack, awesome player he was for us, one of the toughest forwards we ever had and a legend on his day…..

    We need to be respectful of that buddies

  151. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Im With Cedars,

    I can’t bring myself to calling one of my favourite strikers a Cunt, the guy was immense for us. Schmeichel has done similar things like play for Shitty, hate on Lindegaard etc but I will never call him a cunt. Although Tevez is a cunt even though he won the CL with us.
    Who else is a cunt, beck is the friendliest cunt out there, genuine Utd supporter but would put a publicity stunt ahead of the club, also has no balls because his wife wear thems.

    Anyways Welbeck to start, we need a local born in the team.C’mon Young do something special against that cow at Right Back.

    Hope OT is Buzzing for this, lunchtime kick-offs are always quiet, fucking plastic,seat warmers that are more concerned with whats being served for Half time than whats going on in the game.The stretford end have to do everything when rival chants can be heard, those Knobs with the expensive seats let the club down.

    Gotta love the Sikh’s at OT, proper die hard, show up every game and sing like mad. Thats how its done.

  152. Sandeep1878 says:

    giggs12gerard0 is on a high :P

    Hello pal, how are you? yeah we goin on strike :P

    Costas,

    i share the opinion that Sparky should be favoring Mancini in this tevez saga,

    when Sir Alex says Mancini has managed this saga to perfection, i see no doubt..

  153. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    Lads

    Fuck Tevez he is irrelevant to us i dont need to add anymore and I hope we dont sing that stupid song tomorow about him either.

    This is arguably the biggest derby since the 70′s and we will have another huge one in May, i cant contain my excitement for Derby day I just fucking love it, much better them platying them scouse cunts.

  154. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    I really understand where you are coming from…. Paul Ince springs to mind. However once a player moves on then that is where my own emotional attachment ends with that player. I will not judge what those players do for the rest of their lives but will live on the great memories they left me with at the club.

  155. kanchelskis says:

    parryheid

    Not offensive mate, just wrong.

    He’s been out for weeks, hasn’t seen a minute of competitive football, and you want him to start in the derby? Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

  156. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    @Sandeep

    Mate I am on a high, my little boy can now say United, he was born on Derby day Scholes winner. I think he knows something is different he woke up this morning as if to say ” Alright dad we play them blue cunts tomorrow dont we”

    Obviouslty i didnt share this with his mother so did my dad duties and chnaged his bum and made his breakfast but he knows….

    Incidentally his favouarte bath song is 12 Cantona’s he absolutely loves it……..

    United United United

  157. CedarsDevil says:

    giggs12gerrard0

    God bless your little one buddy!

  158. utdroadpaddock63 says:

    Bill Foulkes – Rock!

    Legend!

  159. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    @Cedars

    Cheers mate im trying no to brain wash him just yet only being 18 months, but on weekends like this you just cant help your self but to place him on the correct path and instil my propaganda onto him.

  160. Sandeep1878 says:

    CedarsDevil,

    i apologize buddy,

    it was all a bloody mix up in the context where i used the word, coupled with a following sentence where i mentioned Sparky,

    no grudges buddy,

    yeah we almost never disagree..

    Costas,

    i got your point mate,

    there is nothing wrong or harsh in what you expect from them, for example Keano you mentioned..

    you, we tend to expect the same passion and love for UNITED from them like their playing days,

    times change and they make some statement that hurts the fans, at the back of their mind they are sure they shudnt have said,

    but as you said,

    there is nothing wrong or harsh in expecting them to show us respect, so once in a while we will have to face incidents such as you mentioned..

    Papii,

    hello pal, how are you.

    agreed about sparky..

    agreed about danny starting as well,

    i understand your point of view, but Hernandez also loves this club like any other player, but that extra edge, feel, passion and rivalry can be given by danny the boy..

  161. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    Hmmm Danny or Hernandez????

    I would love to see us play 4-4-2 with Danny boy but just cant see it with City likely to play 5 in midfield we will match like for like and I think Roo up top on his own supported by young playing in advanced centre mid with Flecth and Jones in behind.

  162. Sandeep1878 says:

    Giggs12,

    thats awesome to know about your little red boy mate,

    and i like what he said you the first thing he woke up this morning :)

    good that you are sharing that here

    cheers mate

  163. CedarsDevil says:

    giggs12gerrard0

    My 3 year old girl is already a die hard Red, do not want to mess with her I tell ya! hahaha

    Sandeep

    Nothing to apologize for my good friend, all is good buddy

  164. giggs12gerrard0 says:

    Sandeep Cedars

    Its all a love fest this morning boys I cant wait City tomorrow, in town before the game as well with a few city mates its great.

  165. CedarsDevil says:

    giggs12gerrard0

    Funnily enough some of my best friends are true City fans (Probably the only ones that exist! hahaha)

    Cannot wait for tomorrow either…. Still think that the dippers game is our biggest though

  166. James21 says:

    Keano is a legend.
    Still Looking for a tough midfielder like him and Scholes and hoping we have one in Cleverly.
    Is there any news on Cleverly? Hadn’t realised he would be out this long.

  167. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Sandeep -

    I want Danny to start, its a massive game for him, being a local lad he’ll be buzzing to score because he’ll probably have grown up with City supporting lads and for a kid this is a dream come true. Welbeck can get a goal, so can Chico ….as a sub :lol:

    I wouldn’t mind if Rio strangled Mario in the tunnel. 8)

  168. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    You are nasty and I like it! hahaha

    I said before that I would love for Welbeck to start, he will know more than most what this game means

  169. parryheid says:

    any noggies on here who can answer a query,watching Stabaek v Molde last night at half time there was a rendition (in Norwegian)of land of hope and glory has that been worked into a Stabaek football song?

  170. parryheid says:

    kanchelskis.

    I do and I wanted him in against Liverpool last week as well.He’s a specialist and he is fit and has been playing at the Carrington for a few weeks albeit not full blooded.

  171. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Cedars ;)

    What game should I watch on this boring saturday afternoon?

  172. Sparkz says:

    Parry- If you’re talking about Rafael, then I can’t see it happening tbh. Might get a game against Aldershot, but in a full blooded Derby match, I think it’d be foolish to play him.

    In any case- Fergie will probably be looking at the height factor (City are a team of big brutes at times)- so he’ll most likely go with Smalling for that reason at RB as well?

  173. parryheid says:

    Sparkz

    See you point of view and you are very probably correct,however I still hope to see him turning out tomorrow.

  174. dannysoya says:

    Hopefully welbeck STARTS the game. If cleverley is super fit he can also start the game as well. The youngsters have to get into the big games quickly. play them in as many massive games as possible. eventually they will get used to it and play without fear. that’s how wilshere got used to it. Good to see welbeck in from the start last week. Long may it continue.

  175. Fred says:

    I don’t see Chris Smalling being dropped for the first time this season and Rafael being thrown into a derby having not played since his substitute appearance in the Community Shield.

    Smalling – Ferdinand – Vidic – Evra

    Thank you very much.

  176. Zibbie says:

    @Fred I see the same back 4, Shity can put out a big side.

  177. Zibbie says:

    Since I have watched Rooney, after he has missed games, even 1 or 2 games with injury. It takes him a few games to get his sharpness back. The pin point touch, he should have that now. The 2nd pen shot was great.
    I loved that the Telegraph story put into some prospective just how much Rooney is commercially worth. The replay of AON with the goal against Shity will give them 100,000,000 pounds worth of promotion over the next 20 years. Big players play big in big games.

  178. Fred says:

    Nice! I’d go so far as to say that the biggest players play bigger in the biggest of big games.

  179. Fred says:

    Here’s a new Chicharito interview:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/15414635.stm

    It’s viewable only for UK residents, unfortunately.

  180. wayne says:

    Morning Reds,unlikely either Tom or Rafael will start,i agree Rafael is Utds best right back just a fitness question on both.Smalling should get the nod over Jones,Jones will be on the bench can’t seeing him starting in midfield again tomorrow.It’s a toss up between Danny and Hernandez,i’ve been saying for a while i feel Hernandez is more effective at this stage in his career as a impact sub so i’d start Danny

  181. parryheid says:

    Big game this but Chris Smalling great player as a central defender which is why he was bought does give good cover but is not a right fullback and most games at some point he leaves his position at fullback exposed and that tomorrow could be very costly.Still a great player though.

  182. denton davey says:

    PaulParker @ 11:38: ” a year makes a hell of a difference. I think we’re stronger this year, and we’ll get even stronger imo.”

    I’d agree with both sentiments – a year does make a difference and UTD will get stronger over the course of the season. SAF is always changing/evolving both his squad and style of play so it’s not what you see in October that counts – the team will play better as the season wears on (as long as the main men don’t come down with injuries, all at the same time).

    This raises questions:

    Will the back four be “settled” or continually chopped-and-changed as Smalling/Jones challenge Rio for playing time ?

    Will the Anderson/Cleverley axis reclaim their early season mojo ?

    Will DarrenFletcherinho ever regain his “football genius” ?

    Which winger – Valencia or Jones – will learn to use his left foot ?

    Will Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison challenge for playing time ?

    Can Fabio/Rafael ever stay healthy ? Can they forge ahead of Jones/Smalling for the right back role ?

    Will Patrice Evra regain his positional sense ?

    Can SirRyanGiggs play forever ?

    And because two-into-three won’t go, will DannyTheLad or Chicharito become TheWayneBoy’s main partner ?

    Since TheLads are still undefeated in all competitions so far this season, it’s a testament to the squad’s depth of talent – and versatility – that such questions are still to be answered.

  183. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 15:59: “It’s a toss up between Danny and Hernandez,i’ve been saying for a while i feel Hernandez is more effective at this stage in his career as a impact sub so i’d start Danny”

    I might be what you call a “smarmy cunt” but I agree with you.

  184. Fred says:

    Did you mean will Young ever use his left foot?

  185. Zibbie says:

    Lil Pea and TC to come off the bench If needed ?
    Lil Pea gives great interview.

  186. Zibbie says:

    Rooney’s hair dresser to make him look good, a brace!!!!!!

  187. Fred says:

    No, if Thomas is not fit enough to start, I don’t see him being used as an impact sub. It will be experience on the bench – Giggles, Berbles, and Denise Williams’s favourite player.

  188. wayne says:

    @parry Rafael is unlikely to start,Sir Alex will go with Rio,Vidic in the middle so the choice comes down to Smalling or Jones,think Smalling is a better player at the moment,the lad has improved so much agree with you he’s going to be a great player,same with Jones he’s still a little raw but for 19 what a talent.
    @denton,that is right when it comes to Berba don’t like the way you constantly take shots and sly little digs even if Berba had nothing to do with the game or the thread.Always in a polite way of course as i said before Berba has done nothing but show class and respect and deserves that in return.So while you continue to ride him for no reason i’ll continue to think that.

  189. Zibbie says:

    My buddy who hunts my place, nailed a big 5 year old buck. 174 inches of antler score. A majestic beast! He got it when I was up North.

  190. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Kiko Macheda is tweeting that he has injured his arm and out for 3 weeks. Was hoping to see him on Tuesday. Bad luck for Kiko, but he will bounce back.

  191. CedarsDevil says:

    Papii

    Sorry for the late reply, not sure what you ended up watching! I saw the Wolves v Swansea and the Villa v Brom games…. Watching the dippers now, bore fest

  192. sigmundv says:

    Did you see this guys? You couldn’t make it up!

    Mario Balotelli’s house set on fire as he shoots fireworks from window

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/22/mario-balotelli-house-fire-fireworks

  193. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 16:19: “when it comes to Berba don’t like the way you constantly take shots and sly little digs even if Berba had nothing to do with the game or the thread.”

    I usually respond to people (like you) who make extravagant claims on his behalf. Most of what I have said can be boiled down to four points:

    first, he lost his place to Chicharito in February when it became evident that he and TheWayneBoy were worked liked a square peg in a round hole in comparison to the main man’s partnership with Chicharito;

    second, when he got a chance in a big game, it would seem that SAF got pissed with him because he missed two sitters in the FACup semi-final;

    third, in regards to SAF’s decision to exclude him from the EuroFinal – see “second” (above);

    fourth, he’s not only lost his place as the “second striker” but is now behind Danny Welbeck (and maybe even LittleMikey).

    These four points seem to me to be “self-evident”. It’s not my fault if you disagree and resort to name-calling as the last refuge of a desperate BerbaLover. But I do think that you (and others of your ilk) might want to consider the empirical evidence of the past nine months.

    As regards your second point: “Berba has done nothing but show class and respect and deserves that in return.So while you continue to ride him for no reason i’ll continue to think that.”

    First, I don’t “ride him for no reason” but, rather, I try to take issue with those (like you) who want to big-him-up. The point being: he’s lost his place – not once but twice. Face that fact and then explain how my comments have been derogatory to the man – as opposed to the results of his performances.

    Second, his comportment has, indeed, been exemplary and professional but let’s not forget that he gets one hundred thousand quid each and every week he swallows his pride. He might get this amount for another nine months at UTD – or even another 21 months if UTD take up the option on his contract. [if my arithmetic is correct then he'll trouser something like 35/40 of those weekly pay packets between now and the end of June = 3.5 to 4.0 million quid; if he's kept around for an additional year then you could add around 6.0 million quid on top of that.] If SAF decides that he’s now surplus-to-requirements then he’ll get a big pay-day from someone else, for an even longer period of time. If this is what you consider showing “class and respect” then I’m sure that any professional would like that opportunity to pocket something like 10,000,000 quid while being firmly rooted to the bench.

    I submit, sir, that you have lost all sense of proportion in jumping to Dimmy’s defence. If that continues to make me a “smarmy cunt”, then so be it. But what, exactly does it make you ?

  194. TonyBee says:

    Denton Davey….fair play fella…… what a polite way to answer a critic….

  195. wayne says:

    Well Sir i certainly i certainly haven’t lost any sense of proportion in jumping to Berbas defence,all your points are weak and we’ve heard the reasons of your crusade against him time and time again
    First of all untill Berba was dropped he was Utds best striker last year,he was sacrificed in order to get Rooney into form.
    I really am at a loss for words you keep banging on and on about the FA Cup semi final misses,first of all i don’t even consider them sitters,secondly ALL STRIKERS MISS CHANCES,stop going on about that it makes you look stupid,no fucking way Sir Alex is holding a grugge and not playing him because of that.If Sir Alex benched strikers who missed chances,Utd wouldn’t have anybody up front.So stop using that as a pont because it isn’t.
    Now you’re banging on about his wages what the fuck has that got do to with anything?.All top players make good money doesn’t stop them from being babies when things don’t go their way,he could’ve signed for more money at City but he didn’t.This summer although teams were interested Sir Alex wanted to keep him so obviously Sir Alex thinks he’s worth the money,what he makes is the most irrelevant point about why you constantly rag on him,think this might be a new one don’t remember this one before.
    I must have missed the newsflash about Berba being the 5th striker mind sending me the link.thanks
    To say you only respond to Berbalovers making extravagant claims is just a lie,you throw in shots all the time,on the CL league thread started making digs about him for no reason.So back to my point you constantly pick on him regardless of the thread or whether he played or not,you just won’t let it go
    Get the fuck off his back,oh and i thought Berba didn’t fit because now Utd play fast flowing pure football and he’s just to slow,last few games i’ve watched spot on with the assessment the flow of the game has been so fast like watching tennis.

  196. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Back on subject lads:
    Been dreaming of Scholes Keano coming out of retirement for team GB

    MF Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Beckham.

    F Young, Rooney, Wellbeck

    D Rio, Smalling, Jones

    G: Won’t matter, Craig Gordon would do though.

  197. wayne says:

    ok Denton answer me one Question,one of your big points is Sir Alex doesn’t trust Berba to get the job done after the FA Cup semi final,the fact is if Sir Alex didn’t trust him why not unload him in the summer for $10-15mill and also dump that big paycheck.What has actually happened is a contradiction to one of your main points.
    You’re a very slippery denton wouldn’t surprise me if you’re a politican,lawyer,something like that,although you claim to come after Berbalovers who make extravagent claims the truth is opposite.
    On the CL thread out of the blue,the Berba digs for no reason,i asked why pick on Berba when he had fuck all to do with the game.Your answer is below,you’re only intention was to get a rise out of Berba fans,so please save the bullshit and honey.

    denton davey says:
    Wayne @ 0:02 – I was just wondering where all the BerbaLove had gone

  198. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 22:24: “ok Denton answer me one Question,one of your big points is Sir Alex doesn’t trust Berba to get the job done after the FA Cup semi final,the fact is if Sir Alex didn’t trust him why not unload him in the summer for $10-15mill and also dump that big paycheck.What has actually happened is a contradiction to one of your main points.”

    It takes three to make a deal – the buyer, the seller, AND the player. Since we don’t know what happened when PSG supposedly offered 18 million for Dimmy, we can make a couple of assumptions:

    first, SAF didn’t want to sell because he still values Dimmy’s experience and wasn’t sure at the time that Chicharito would recover from his concussion or that Danny Welbeck was going to be good enough in game, as opposed to in training; or,

    second, Dimmy didn’t want to go.

    AND, of course, there’s every likelihood that PSG never offered to buy the guy.

    On the other hand, you’re not altogether “wrong” that I want to “get a rise out of Berba fans”. After reading so much BerbaLove that has flown in the face of empirical evidence that I presented earlier (@ 20:47 – and on many other occasions these past few months) it would be beyond my capacity to resist getting a rise out of you. Although, of course, I also know that you wouldn’t be convinced – in fact, as you say, other strikers have missed “sitters” which is true but essentially beside-the-point-at-issue.

    I presented my take on the situation – my so-called “empirical evidence” – in order to try to make sense of a truly bizarre situation – last year’s top-scorer from open play is so thoroughly marginalized that he hasn’t started a meaningful game this year. How many minutes of EPL action has Dimmy had – thirty minutes (?) in a mop-up role.

    My so-called “empirical evidence” might be wrong but – dammit man – can you guys provide any better explanation for this truly bizarre situation ? I know that you can call me a “smarmy cunt” – and have done so – but that hardly rises to the standard of evidence required to make sense of this truly bizarre situation.

    If all you BerbaLovers can do is to gush like teenagers in front of The Beatles then we’re never going to have a rational discussion of Dimmy’s marginalization. And that would be very, very sad. It would mean that rational discussion is impossible.

    Finally, “out of the blue, the Berba digs for no reason” – look at the context of that remark. It was written to point out that the forgotten man is now forgotten by even his greatest supporters. Can Dimmy be any more marginalized than that ?

  199. wayne says:

    denton i’m assuming Berba not wanting to move is the same source as the 3 way deal involving Modric,in your head because i haven’t seen one article suggesting that,if you have it send it along with the 5th striker link. Crouch got bought fot 10mill,if Utd really wanted to unload him there would have been tons of teams in the bidding.It’s pretty obvious to me Berba is a proud man if Sir Alex had gone to him and said it’s over and the club have accepted an offer Berba would’ve left i’m convinced of that.
    Just asking even you admit everything is a bit odd so can we please dispel FA Cup semi misses because we both know it’s not that.Denton you’ve got rid of Blackburn away out of the repertoire and untill all facts are out except the one’s in your head,the facts are proving the trust factor theory wrong.
    Berba isn’t a forgotten man Denton i’m praying he gets a chance,thing is though Berba fans are between a rock and a hard place.On one side of the coin if we don’t talk about Berba we have posters like you to deal with and get accused of marginaliseing,then if we do talk about him we have other posters like Zibbie who accuse us of going on and on about him
    See were i’m coming from Denton tough being a Berba fan but i do have respect for him,i like him alot and think he’s a top player,was a big part of 19 and got a shitty of a deal last year as i can remember,not going to let negative comments go by,no reason for them

  200. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 1:01: “Berba isn’t a forgotten man Denton i’m praying he gets a chance,thing is though Berba fans are between a rock and a hard place”

    You BerbaGuys are between a rock and a hard place but I’d dispute how you characterize your plight. You keep defending Dimmy AS IF he’s blameless when, in reality, in a results-driven business he’s done next-to-nothing since the beginning of 2011. I know, he can’t do anything if he doesn’t play and that’s really the crux of the matter – why doesn’t he play ? I think that the only reasonable answer to that question is that SAF no longer “trusts” him (or “has confidence in him) which is why I keep bringing up the two misses at Wembley because they really let the air out of Dimmy’s balloon AFTER he had lost his place to Chicharito. I really don’t see any other ways of explaining what is a truly bizarre situation.

    About my “Modric speculation” – it was presented as just that: speculation at the time when the Sneijder transfer had died and Dimmy wasn’t getting any game time. It was conjectured as a way to spark discussion – unfortunately, it was groundless (or so it seems since we have no idea of what was going on behind the scenes).

    Given SAF’s incredible track-record of never selecting the “obvious” team-sheet – I’m always surprised that Dimmy hasn’t had a run-out, starting in one of the big games (Charity Shield, RentBoyz, Spurs, TheArse, LIverpoo) so far this season. Maybe today ?

  201. wayne says:

    denton you can’t say it’s result driven and Berba hasn’t done anything when the lad hasn’t played.As i mentioned earlier Berba was playing well last year but with Hernandez emerging and the need to get Rooney into good form,Berba became the odd man out.He’s hardly started so that’s just not being fair to him.
    From my point of view Berba is blameless and unlucky but he’s handled the situtation with class he does deserve our respect.

  202. ironbrand says:

    Show-down in Manchester, England. Show shitty that Manchester bleeds red and we are the champs. C’mon you Reds!!!

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