Tomasz Kuszczak has again spoken about his frustration at not being allowed to leave Manchester United following options to join other clubs on loan.
Towards the end of last season, as United battled to claim that 19th league title, Kuszczak spoke to the papers about his desire to leave the club and become a #1 elsewhere.
This season he is third in pecking order behind David de Gea and Anders Lindegaard, after the club rejected offers for him to leave on loan in the summer. United had no interest in loaning him out though and no club met our asking price.
An opportunity to join Leeds United on loan arose last week and Kuszczak is frustrated that he wasn’t allowed to join them.
“I’ve become a slave to Manchester,” he said. “I’m frustrated but I don’t want to slander or criticise Ferguson. It’s not my style. I’ve talked to Ferguson recently. I asked him to let me leave the club now, before the January transfer window. I told him I want to play and get back into the national team, because Euro 2012 is just around the corner – but it seems he doesn’t care. The possibility of a two-month loan to Leeds United came up two weeks later. The club blocked it. It was a glimmer of hope for me. It would have reminded the Poland manager about me – but I didn’t get the club’s approval. I have respect for Ferguson because, for me, he’s a great manager, but I hope he will let me go in January.”
If it’s any consolation Kus, we hope he’ll let you go in January too…
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Bit of a strange one this really. Why are we holding on to him unecessarly??
Er……that’s “Sir Alex” to you!
The Knight who gave you ample opportunity to prove yourself
He’s third in the pecking order? Surely 4th after Amos otherwise he’d have played in the Carling Cup.
*Sigh*
First hargreaves, now PIG mouthing off in the press about their treatment by Manchester United. Show some class for your fantastic wages and shut the fuck up
Slave ?? Slaves were paid nothing for work. How much does the PIG get a week to do nothing ?
The knob needs to shut up.
He’s been watching too much of that Ronnie interview in 08
Maybe he can get mad bastard blatter to fight for him
Morning ROM – everyone okay today or do we need divine intervention?
He did not prove himself in the team, so not a surprise he’s 4th keeper, but talking about being a slave is just rubbish, he’s being paid to do nothing, yet he’s whining.. may be blatter (his charming price… lol)would come to his rescue
Not sure how I feel about the Leeds move being blocked. Does feel a little petty. Unless Fergie genuinely believes he could make the difference between Leeds getting promoted and staying in the Champo. In which case he surely rates him as good enough to get some games for us?…
Would be interested to hear the whole story.
I cant see how playing for Leeds would prove anything to the Polish national team ?
He’s probably out of line with the “slave” stuff – but really, ffs, I wish he was let go.
I don’t really see why we aren’t letting him go to be honest, he’s arguably 4th choice behind Amos now too – however after THAT display at Blackburn last season I can’t say I’d be sad to see him go, and anyone who’s still on the 40/50k a week mark for doing sod all ain’t exactly a slave is it?
Ungrateful swine.
He’ll go in January. The only reason he didn’t go over the summer was because Fergie was trying to cover himself if De Gea didn’t settle easily.
I can understand his frustration though. Things like this and the Berbatov situation make our club look a bit petty in my opinion and I can’t see any benefit to keeping an unhappy player who will never play for us again.
For them what’s missed it innit:
http://www.agentoffergie.com/2011/11/unfortunate.html
Check it out yeah?
His performance away to Blackburn last season was just pathetic. I cant believe after that showing he has the nerve to come out and slag anyone off! Luckily for him, the fact that we won the league that day took the focus off that pityful display. But I sure remember it! Had my stomach in knots. Useless cunt
I also agree that he should be let go but his way of going about it annoys me. By the way, if Poland were to take him to the Euros as their number one, they must be seriously short of goalkeeping talent!!
No need to be bitter, he is not gettnig a game and a club has shown interest. He is a professional footballer and wants to be involved, fair play to him i say.
His nadir was that Blackburn game where I am convinced he tried to throw the fucking game with his dithering! Abysmal distribution.
I’m glad he didn’t go to Leeds scum.
Yes I feel sick when our players go to L’bewl, Leedscum or Shitty.
You can go where ever you like but not there, Fullstop.
I can understand his frustration. Why hang on to him?
No bitterness from me, just let him go…
Morning all
Morning guys (It’s 6:42AM in Jamaica) I really see no reason to prevent him from joining another club at all and it’s easy for any one of us to say he should respect the club and all but would any of us done differently being in a similar situation? I don’t think he set up the interview did he, he must’ve been asked and gave a response on how he truly feels. Someone compared this to the Hargreaves situation, really can’t see the similarity to be honest. Just let him go, he’s a professional footballer who despite still being paid would still love to play football. He’s clearly not gonna make it here, so let him go Fergie
Speaking of keepers, just watched highlights from the weekend’s matches and Al Habsi had an outstanding match for Wigan v Wolves…. Some of the saves he pulled off were truly amazing
Great to know that Rooney will not be involved with England for their next 2 games….. Anyone know which United players are in the squad?
Ding ding! Round 3! Morning, my minions? Lol. The boss is right….I wouldn’t sell Leeds the steam of my piss! He should go in January. Just not to wee Leeds. RIP Smoking Joe(legend)
Willie
To be honest I never ever watch boxing, I did though during the years of Joe and Ali….. RIP big man
wee Leeds? Brilliant! What a daft excuse of a football club they are, idiots sold us Cantona for peanuts! We also got Rio and Smith from them…. Never worked out for Smith, as feisty as he is, that injury at Anfield ruined it…. Still his goal v Norwich was a peach and his performance v Roma in the 7-1 was probably his best for us
Fergie pls let the PIG go.
Cedars- hope you’re feeling better. i watched that wigan/wolves match. That goalkeeper was truly outstanding but his defenders did nowt to protect him. Sometimes it seemed like they were taking turns to kill him with shots on goal.
The kus situation doesn’t make much sense to me. Don’t understand why we’re still holding on to him. Guess Sir Alex has his reasons but with all his mouthing off, i don’t think he’ll stay later than january
But leeds??!! Seriously??!! What’s it with players these days and their complete disregard for club, history and hated rival clubs? Was too young to get a full grip on the hatred between United and Leeds but even i know that it is a BIG NO NO! Then how is it so difficult for players who work (yes, work) at the club to know limits when it comes to transfers?
Cyril said it best.
You can accuse PIG of a lot. And he has gone overboard with the slave comment just like Ronaldo did 3 years ago. But despite all that, it’s our club that’s coming off this looking worse. There was no reason to hold onto him in the summer. I hear that Fergie wanted a safety net in case DDG and even Linde weren’t making it. Really? Why was he 4th choice then? Even Amos has played this season. If we kept him around for this reason, at least we should have rewarded him by playing him in the Carling Cup games.
Anyway, imo the club held onto 3 players unnecessarily. PIG, Berba and Diouf. We could have sold those 3 for approximately 18-20 mil in the summer and there’s your money for a CM…
zino
Feeling better, thanks for asking…..I think both Al Habsi and Vorm are currently the best keepers on form in the PL outside of De Gea…. Just a shame that both play behind average defenses…. Oh wait, so has De Gea recently ! hahaha
@zino
Leeds wouldn’t be my preference and I’m sure they weren’t Kuszczak’s preference either. The point that (i think) he’s making was that he desperately wanted a move elsewhere to get some match practise and force his way into the Polish squad.. If Leeds are the only club to come knocking, I guess he’s going to take his chances with them.
zino
Only club to my memory that we never had a direct transfer with are Liverpool, at least not in my life time… We have with City and Leeds though, quite a few to mention. Cannot fault a player for wanting out and where they end up does not concern me
Lol, cedars. You’re welcome.
There is obviously a reason for Fergie’s stance. Nobody knows, yet some on here seem to think they know the inner workings of the club.
Optimus C’s- You both make good points. Hope he leaves soonest though. Wouldn’t want any sort of negative presence among the lads
Cedars – Phil Chisnall 1964. United to Liverpool.
You’re not that old? Ha ha.
Willie
Hahaha, Well that was not during my life time as I said…… I was born err many many years after that
Pissing off for a nap fellow reds, back later….
Keep it red and keep it United
Love you all (Well most of you!)
And some in here seem to think that a profession player would try to throw a historic game for his club…
@zino
Me too mate. I have no hard feelings against the guy even after all his moaning, but it’s time for him to move on. It has been for 6 months now. I just hope that Linde’s run at the club won’t end on a similar note.
I see Cilla Dodd has admitted saying something to Evra? Figures. Dalglish was giving him his unconditional support….now he wants it cleared up either way. I wonder if he told Liverpool, what he said to Evra, that made them change their stance slightly?
*professional player*
Why the fuck would he want to join that scummy club for. The guy must av had to many bangs to the head in his time to want to play for the scum.
Fergie is doing him a favour. He ain’t gonna get into the national team playing for scum. Fergie knows a bigger and better team will come along… To say he’s being treated as a slave is just beyond crazy. I really hpe a bigger club come in for him in January and he will feel like a right dick
All this talk of slaves…Sepp Blatter needs to get involved again! Lol, what a fuck up. Ya but PIG def needs to go, plus Gibson as well.
I know its just rumours and he’s not exactly what we wanted, but did anyone hear about Kwadwo Asamoah being linked to United? Decent CM, played well for Ghana in World Cup and only 22 years old. Whether he’ll make it at United is another story of course…but any midfielder will do at the moment!!
The word slavery might be the wrong word but football is a different profession to working in the corner shop. While the rest of us could give a months notice and quit our day job football players are tied to a contract. It is an imperfect system and generally relies on good will on both sides.
If he is 4th choice then he has a legitimate expectation to leave for first team football. If he doesn’t have that ambition then what sort of a character would he be? Someone willing to be 4th choice and take the money for nothing?
If Ferguson has reason to keep him then I back the manager but I do sympathise with a player who feels that he is trapped.
Slave?????? The Polish Leighton is having a laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Send him to Leeds if like the Blackburn game they would go down with him in goal.
I believe he also had offers from Doncaster and Sheffield United, but has rejected them in favour of this move to Leedscum, who SAF won’t loan to.
Hardly being held against his will now is he?
look Tom-ass, you are B.A.D. = Ben . Anders . David
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Obviously not in No1 , 2 etc but DAB doesn’t work – well in some parts of the country!
@Brett
I fully agree.
(re-posted from another thread, it seems more appropriate here)
I don’t like the way PIG is conducting himself. I understand his frustration. And I do think that if he really wants out, then let him go. It’s not like we’re talking major money, either coming in from his sale, or to replace him. But none of that changes the point. He signed a contract, and he’s legally, ethically and morally obliged to fulfil his part of the bargain. He knew when he signed that he would have to compete for a starting place, and it’s wrong to start bleating now it’s obvious that he has lost that battle. I mean, stiff shit.
Also, PIG has no appearances for us so far this year. He would need to play in 5-7 matches by season end, otherwise he can walk out on his contract under the FIFA “terminate contract with sporting justification” rule. A player who isn’t used in at least 10% of the club’s official competitive matches, has that option.
StatesideAussie
Top post (Nothing new as far you are concerned) Many level headed people like Costas etc have made it clear that there should be no ill feelings towards the player… He wants out, let him go simple really…
Slightly annoying to get bad press but after all the guy is just human and is feeling the frustration… Would not surprise me if his comments were lost in translation….. British press love a ‘good’ story do they not?
Sure he wants to play at Leeds and the terms will be the same he currently enjoys at United as our club invariably pay his contract wages with very little if any coming the other way from lower div clubs.Let him kick stones and mutter to himself.Wait till somebody coughs up in the window.
Afternoon You Scum Bag Mancs
I agree with a lot of you, he should keep quite, but you can see his frustration. But I don’t think that it’s a Sir Alex against Leeds thing, as the two have done a lot of business over the years – both ways – (and FYI, Manchester United have twice saved leeds from near liquidation in the last ten years…) I believe that its because Sir Alex won’t deal with Ken Bates, rather than Leeds…
British press love to write a better story
Bullshit one of course
Fight for the truth!
No chance
fuck off Thomas, you out of touch twat.
Gets paid a shed load.
Polish national team? Not our concern.
After the Blackburn game he lost any bargaining power.
Bollocks to him.
He looks like Tubs from The League of Gentleman, but he’s not local.
I smell bacon…
Always back and trust SAF but a bit out of order that to be fair though with the Euro’s coming up. Feel sorry for him.
This is personal. It‘s between him and the gaffer, he has surely done or said something that angers SAF.
People here talk about his performance in the Blackburn game. We all know that he is not United class, but the hadn‘t played since ever before that game.
Let him go and let’s move on.
If he has pissed off the boss in any way we might never know, however in that case the formula is well known…… Piss off Sir Alex and you will be shipped or ruined…. As I said we might never know
Just let the guy go and move on
I don’t see the point in slagging him off for not being good enough. He’s our 4th-choice goalie. The club is always going to have a 4th-choice goalie, and by definition, the 4th-choice goalie is, well, not good enough. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be the #4 goalie, he’d be the #3, or #2 or #1 goalie — and then someone else would be #4 and guess what, that guy wouldn’t be good enough either.
It has been pointed out that Kuszczak could leave at the end of the season under the ‘terminate contract with sporting justification’ rule. Well fine, by keeping him we are not doing anything illegal; but with the Euro’s coming up, a competition the player concerned wants to feature in, I feel that the treatment he is receiving from us is wrong, spiteful even.
Take the high road and let him go.
@WillieRedNut
Yeh, I see he’s admitted to calling him “something the Utd players call him”… funny he wouldn’t come out and say exactly what that was. Suggests that it’s unrepeatable. I would also be surprised if the Utd players call him anything of the sort.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzybwwf2HoQ
Costas – Ha. If only you knew.
People say how shit he was against Blackburn. Why did we keep him in the summer then? We know how Ferguson reacts to mediocrity. We respected Ronaldo’s “boyhood dream” to play for Real and we let him leave, but we can’t grant our 4th choice goalkeeper the same wish? Funny how the “her has a contract to honor” excuse pops up when no one throws 80 million in our face…
@nm
Know what? There’s no proof about that. I am not naive about the fact that some players may be on the take, but what was in it for Kuszczak? He gets paid a lot by his club and he had a chance to become part of history. By that logic, we could make the same accusations for VDS and the off day he had at Wembley against Barcelona. At Blackburn, PIG’s performance was typical of him. He’s had games like that before.
To send him to Leeds is a no go. But to keep him after January is quite curious. Much unseen to the public eye here. I do give him credit for wanting to compete for the Poland national team job though. SAF can definitely hold a grudge if you piss him off.
I must post and run, Hello to all who bleed Man Utd Red!!!!
I don’t think we’ll get 80 million for PIG Costas. Unless Fergie can give the Arabs a call at city?
We should sell/loan him out in Jan, honestly I don’t care where…And then buy a midfielder!!! I’m gettin greedy I know, but I just feel we need at least one signing in Jan
Schweinsteiger?? Lol
@willie
We won’t get that much for PIG, even if promises to reveal all of Fergie’s secrets to Mancini. But lets not get lost in numbers. Another example (and a more similar one at that) is Andy Cole. He left the club 10 years ago because he wanted to play regular football. And yes, he moaned quite a bit at the time. Who knows? Maybe PIG will buy a United season ticket in 2021-2022 and all will be forgotten.
@GuillemBalague We might not have to discuss this in a very busy @revistadelaliga but a club has contacted Javi Martinez but not MUFC.
Mh I hope we go after him in the summer.
GHTT
Who ?
GHTT
What?
Really do not see the need to slate him in anyway…….
So its England v Spain this weekend, hope its the piss take I expect it to be
Zelh – Is that code for something?
I actually love P I G
I do – I think he’s a good keeper just never had the opportunity to express himself
Hope he’s happy soon but he should know why the Gaffer turned Leeds down – not rocket science…
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what is this clown still doing here, he’s a shit keeper anyway.
I understand his frustration he should of been sold, but the more he keeps mouthing off why would anyone care about his position? hope he’s gone soon for his and our sake.
MG
Bonne soirée mon amour
Damn Britney was hot 10 years ago.
Oops I did it again
I played with your heart
Got lost in the game…
GHTT has got me singing BS songs
Here come the nonsense.
He wore the shirt did he not? as I said before whether or not he pissed off the boss in anyway we may never know…. Bigger players HAVE pissed Sir Alex off in the past and moved on…. Keano springs to mind, do we love him less?
Cedars
Good Evening to you too my love
Forever the romantic that Devil…
Britney
Toxic is that woman
Britney is a skank. She took the fed express….and never recovered.
I miss the babes of RoM, portuguesepericess, soren and Red Gem spring to mind…. sigh
Willie – How are you today my Irish friend?
Willie
Cedars
Am I a babe now?
MG
Vous êtes trop bon
I have no problem with Kuz leaving and am actually a bit ashamed that this is not sorted.
He did his bit for the 2008 CL and been a find stand in. Not a No1 for me and club have clearly decided to go a different direction. Fine, let him go already!!!!!
Kuz can only look to himself though, he’s been talking dissatisfaction for 2 years now and I think
he got on the bosses bad side.
Cedars you’re way too kind
Beauty after all is in the eye of the beholder
Cedars – Not bad pal. I’d add jellybean to your list.
MG
Indeed you are a ‘babe’ a United babe that takes after our own BABES…. May those who lost their lives that horrible day RIP
Good evening Red Devils around the world,
Its wasy why we were holding on to him,
Anders wasnt tested,
De Gea pretty new and debut season,
So KUZ was a back up IMO..
slave to manchester? Sir Alex wrath is waiting boy..
Willie
Damn right! How on earth could I miss out a mention on Jellybean? She was my drink and card king game partner
Glad to know you’re well buddy
MG – I was always a Christina A fan. All because of one video.
Cedars
RIP to the finest
Wherever they are keep on inspiring us
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Willie
To just be rubbed the right way….
Sorry I have no respect for footballers who take their problems public are whiny babies
This cunt signed a contract and has been making good money for doing fuck all for years,now all of a sudden he’s worried about being a starter,what a laugh.
As another lad pointed out if he’s Polands num 1,Poland must be shit.He’s a big mouth with not much talent slagging off the club.I’d make him finish his contract as a reserve goalie in the reserves.This cunt needs to shut up and stop disrespecting the club
I cant see for the life of me why PIG is kept one especially as we decided to go with two goal keepers this year so whatever cover there was to be for the eventual No1 it would be match fit and ready. I supose it was just an insurance policy in case one of DeGea or Lindegaard really blew. That in itself doesnt show a great deal of confidence in the decision in signing Lindegaard and/or DeGea. Either that or Fergusson believes Amos is still along way from being ready. From what very little Ive seen of Amos he seems to be good for a few starts, maybe someone else knows more.
Seeing that the lads will not be in action for ten days or so, its the perfect time to be nostalgic, spout nonsense and just out of the blue opinions….
MG
Speaking of the BABES, I posted what I thought were the best ever 11 to play the game, a collective 11….
Here is my list again….
1- The BABES
2- Hungary team of the 50′s
3- Brazil team of 82
4- Brazil team of 70
5- AC Milan team of the early 90′s
Would love a debate with anyone who differs
Sir Alex said in the documentary,
the best he learnt from Sir Matt Busby is : “Never ever criticize your players in public”
wayne makes a good point. He signed a contract and nowhere in that contract did it say guaranteed first team football, Im pretty bloody sure of that. To open your mouth and whinge like this is massively disrespectfull to the club as it leaves us in a very poor bargaining possition to get the best possible price for him. If anything it has damaged his chances in getting to play for a club good enough were even the Polish manager would be bothered to come and see him play. Disrespectful idiot.
Cedars
The treble winning United were something – in their prime that year they would have beaten probably anybody because they didn’t fear at all
The 08 team were close…
I can’t argue with that list – but Barca now are on a different level – and the Real Madrid team of Puskas et al as SAF says were something…
Anyways The Babes will always be something extraordinary… No argument there…
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Cedars – Number 5. What a team. Best side our saw play. Without a doubt. They took Barcelona apart in the champions league final of 94. Milan were not the favourites that night. One of the goals was a chip from the edge of the box. Sublime. I’d love to see the current Barca team get a beating like that. Be interesting, how they would react from it?
MG
No arguing the Real team of the 50′s, but I preferred the Hungary team, bearing that the great Puskas was Hungarian…… You make a decent point about our treble winning team and the 08 team as well, but in all honesty I cannot see them beating anyone from the list I posted
cedars,
same feelings here pal. once out of the club, I dont give a flying Fuck where they land up. But that doesn’t mean they can start criticizing us. Like troll & hargreaves did.
PIG definitely FUCKED up his chances, if it was there for him to take
Such a dick to come out & say tis. Talk to berba & perhaps pig wil become pro. As of his chances for poland, its still a daunting task because current arsenal No1 is better than PIG.
Cedars
All I want to know is why aren’t liverpool or city on the list?
Willie
How can a team with Van Basten, Gullit and Rikaard not be awesome eh? Terrific to watch they were
Maybe next year then.
thundercats
Only reason I am giving him the benefit of the doubt is that I do not trust the British media…
MG
WHO? hahahaha
No just Guillem “I know everything about every transfer” Ballague who says that a PL club enquired for Javi Martinez.
Cedars
Leeds?
@ Sandeep
Good call as to why we kept him we needed insurance. I’m sure SAF shared that with him as well. Players play themselves INTO the team and OUT OF the team.
Here’s an idea close to what was said prior. Find a team in Dubai of the Middle East in general that will over pay for him and hasta la vista baby.
Cedars
True. Yesterday I read anton ferdinand getting death threats for his involvement in racism remarks said by terry. Now how pathetic is this. terry himself confessed saying racist words as scott proved on twitter. Now the FA leaves terry hanging around. Its truly ABU
)
Saying ‘Fuck’ & getting banned but saying black cunt & still playing isn’t fair is it?
FA continues to amaze me..
I dont intend to prove Rooney innocent either. He was wrong & was subsequently punished. But wat abt terry? He is the captain of a nation for Fuck sake. I wonder wat would hav happened if it was some united player who had said it ( I strongly believe fergie wil sell him in the 1st place
MG
Stop it! hahaha the mere mention of Leeds gets my blood boiling!
To be fair though, I always thought the Liverpool team with Keegan were boring to watch, too predictable yet the buggers always won by the odd goal…. Once Dalglish arrived they started playing with a bit of flair, not that I ever enjoyed it mind you!
Cedars – When I talk with my mates about the best teams we’ve ever seen. The same issue always crops up. I say, the Milan team in the 90s. They say, surely it’s the current Barcelona team? Oh yeah, because they best us in 2 European cup finals….it has to be them! They think it’s sour grapes on my behalf lol. No doubting they’re a brilliant side. Not the best I seen play the game, though.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/11/08/2747995/slave-my-a-former-manchester-united-goalkeeper-kevin – former united keeper Kevin Pilkington to Kuzczczckzk – ‘slave my arse!’
Cedars
Have some coolant
Keegans Newcastle?
Willie
The simple difference between the current Barca side and the Milan side of the 90′s is sheer power and entertainment….. Barca have neither in my opinion… That Milan team could never be bullied, Barca can be, that Milan team were entertaining as fuck, this Barca team bore the hell out of me….
cedars . . . Lucas , Adam and Henderson can beat each one of those 5teams on their own
#nextyearistheiryear
barca ? excuse me , this Barcelona team? the current one? yawn .. boring as fuck . . tried to watch their league match twice but woke up next morning from the sofa . . both the times.#fuckingsleepingpill #pisstake
I would put the Ajax team of the 70s on any list. How many European cups did they win? Class side.
MG is officially trying to give me high blood pressure! hahahahaha
Willie
How about Bayern of the 70′s or the Dutch side of the 70′s? Was a tough call picking the best 5 but I still think I have the perfect list
Cedars
Arsenal?
By the way Ajax won three on the trot
Cedars
I’m trying to find your BP cure with laughter
Tut tut
MG
Arsenal with Keown? Cheers buddy…….You’re cheering me up! hahahahahahaha
vous aime mes compagnons rouges
I didn’t see much of the Milan team in the 90s. But like Cedars, this Barca team bore the fuck out of me too. I like their pressing, like that a lot. The rest of it puts me to sleep. Even Messi. I’m yet to be convinced he would be anywhere near as effective in a different team.
Cedars
You too my fellow Red Devil
Pills kicking in, off to another nap…. Catch you later my friends
”In my first year I was disappointed in myself. I need to say that,” Berbatov told a British newspaper early into his second season at the club.
“It was a big pressure for me and maybe I failed myself. I think I wanted to prove myself to these supporters.
“You must remember, they are used to Best, Charlton, Cantona. I am just Dimitar.
“I got a number of assists, but I must score more goals.
LoneStarRed,
yes buddy he was an insurance for our untested goalies..whi in my opinion have been more confident and better..
though i have nothing against KUZ, i dont like him moaning about the best club and how they treated him…
its not the first time he said something like this…
anyway..
Good night Red devils..
Evenin all!!
PIG…. Sir Alex’s job is to keep Manchester United as the most successful club in Britain and to maintain our status as the greatest club on this planet……NOT my friend, to get you a place back in the Poland team. Get a grip, you signed your contract so get on with it, there are a lot worse things you could be doing for a living so stop your whining!!
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Jeez, send him to Leeds for good it would serve him right to be stuck playing for that scum. It’s not like theyre going up anytime soon and especially not with his mediocrity in goal.
Evening mikekelly12
Evening MG. How’s life pal?
@mikekelly12
Could be better could not have this Aussie cold still lingering
However could be worse – could be wanting to go to Leeds (luckily that’s not happening any time soon for anything)
Well he went over the line with the slave line, but if he asked the boss to let him leave then I don’t see why not letting him go. Clearly the boss doesn’t have any intentions of playing him even in carling up.
Never really disliked Kuszczak as a keeper, always thought he was quite good. The jury has always been divided over him and it always will be, just like Dimmy. I think he should be able to leave and can fully understand his frustration. He’s far better than a number 4 so think he deserves a bit of credit an respect.
Just don’t slag off SAF Tomasz and go quietly.
Us fans are Slaves to Manchester Utd not you players. (Slaves by choice I must add.)
MG
Get a Lemsip down ya neck fella!! And WHO THE FUCK would want to go to Leeds??! Crazy Kuz!!
mikekelly12
Lemsip – nice one – Forgot about that
SAF right not to give him to bates let him go somewhere in jan, SAF was just holding out because lindegaard was coming back from his knee op
Evening folks, all sobered up here from my pills, yet I feel somewhat drowsy…. I see my buddy Mikekelly made an appearance… Hope you are well pal
StatesideAussie @ 18:36
Would really be worth your while to catch up on that Milan team buddy, perhaps a DVD or simply some Youtube videos…. You love your football as much as the rest of us and they were a joy to watch….
Willie and myself do not rave about them for nothing
Sir Matt “I never wanted Manchester United to be second to anybody. Only the best would be good enough.”
How blessed are we as a football club to have had Sir Matt and now Sir Alex? Long may it continue
Cedars … yeah, I will check them out!
Check them out? Nothing sexual intended in my post Stateside, all to their own I suppose!
Not coming out as well are you ala King Eric, Costas and Balaji are you? Mind you they had some cute players, Van Basten was a looker!
Hahahahaha
Right, seeing that I am all on my own here I will post a question to all of you…. During the time that you have followed United who would you pick as your favorite striking partnership? Just 2 names
Tough one eh?
Personally I am struggling with it but will eventually post mine
Zelh – to be fair, he did get the david de gea’s transfer right, well that’s what he claims anyway.
Cedars
Evening pal. I’ve been out n about tonight. Only had chance of a brief visit earlier. Got the mail from STR this evening so will fire you a mail across tomorrow pal.
Favourite strike partnership!! Good question. Straight off the bat you’d have to say Cole and Yorke from my viewing days although I’m pretty sure Dennis Law and a another would be a good shout.
Cole and Yorke. Treble! The didn’t play together as such, but Rooney and Ronaldo were brilliant at linking up. They always seemed to know….where each other was on the pitch.
Mikekelly
Excellent news, will wait for your email buddy…. Dennis Law would of course be a first, but he was not in our days was he?
Cole and Yorke? Interesting choice, still I think I could do better… from my days at least! Will keep the suspense building up! hahahaha
Cedars
Law well before my day ! How about Davenport and Gibson?! Sparky n McClair?
Kuzszcak is a fool for coming out with this slave crap, only if he could experience the terrible ordeal that real slaves went through, they certainly never had the chance to speak their mind or get paid thousands a week, the pole had the chances to be united’s number one and he just never stepped up.
I wouldn’t say he is crap but i think certainly he is good enough for teams below the highest level, i don’t know why he is upset because sczczezny owns that polish number one spot for a long while and there is no way sir alex will loan or sell any players to leeds, he’ll leave but to a club that united are satisfied with which excludes any harsh rivals e.t.c.
Ole & Ruud
Cristiano Wants OT Return!
Cricky!!!
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/united-ask-about-ronaldo-availability—reports?
Mikekelly
Right, will spill my beans now, I only caught up on Law as a kid so he does not count….
Some may laugh at my choice but here it goes…… Cantona and Pearson, never played together but that was never part of the question……. Was a tough call between Pearson and Sparky but I went with my heart
Hahaha.
Bet I got a few of ya on that one !)
Cheers
Elton John and David Furnish?
Burt and Ernie?
Hughes & Cantona
Cedars
Now that ain’t fair. I didn’t know they could be from different eras. Stapleton and Cantona!
Willie
Hinge n Bracket
Cole and Yorke will always be the top answer. Those two together were from a different planet. Ole and Ruud together produced a shitload of goals in 01-02, but don’t know if they linked up well together.
There’s another partnership that we didn’t see a lot of, but brought out the best in both strikers. Rooney and Saha.
Cedars and his right hand?
Fibes – Decent call, close to my second choice…
Not sure many here will even know who Pearson is! Watch his first goal against the dippers in this one…. Bloody loved him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnVqBBb93A
Bubble n squeak
Mikekelly
I posed the question so I make the rules! hahahaha Franky? another one I loved, so much class
Pancho Pearson!
Been hoodwinked!! Frank Stapleton, probably my first real memories of United.
Right fellow reds, off to get some much needed beauty sleep! Cedars, I’ll fire that email over tomorrow pal.
Mikekelly
Probably just a couple of years behind you….. Oh Franky Franky…. Still rings in my ears
Mikekelly
Sweet dreams buddy…..
Hello Willie my love… Just popped my last pair for the day and I pray that I do not get hit by a stray Israeli missile before I go to bed, or even during the process! hahahahaha
Sure you would get me
Cedars – In that case mate….duck!
Duck? Now that is some damn good breast meat… Especially in the Chinese cuisine…. Always amazed at how they shred it for you using just a pair of forks …..
Pissing off to bed, love you all (Well most of you) hahahaha
Kevin Plinkerton was a great kid. Never really hit the heights, but that seems to the story with our Reserves keepers. Has the demeanor of a proper youth team product every time I’ve heard him speak.
http://www.trulyreds.com/20101005/the-1992-youths-which-became-fergies-fledglings/
@Cedars – How are you mate?
That Pearson goal reminds me of Wayne’s stoppage time goal against Milan in 2007.
What a game that was!
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/real-no-10-rejects-liverpool-for-united
Am I the only who feels a little sorry for a lad. He’s probably not good enough for United, maybe never was but that cannot be held against him. If its really true that he was stopped from leaving then it is sad. Sometimes at big clubs like United, certain players do end up getting a hard deal. Its nobody’s fault really. You cannot expect Fergie to spend time on this issue when there are so many other pressing concerns, not to mention the clubs play so many games. So I won’t fault him, but I hope that for the sake of the player and the club, some amicable solution is reached.
looking back i think kuscak was better than foster, i’d hoped fergie would give him a nod ahead of foster when VDS was injured, but as it turned out they were both shit
Good Morning Red Devils around the world,
He wouldnt Join Leeds even in dreams when the Legend Sir Alex is at the helm…
############
The countdown for the most awaited moment in Cricket Hostory has begun as the Lil Master edges closer to century of centuries in International Cricket.
Will the History be written today or the waiting goes on?
I think it will be done today!!
Go Master Go..
The master out for 76 and the wait continues
Kuszscak better than foster? i think you’ve lost your mind, foster’s problem has always been him lacking the mental strength required for united, he crumbled under pressure nothing to do with lacking talent.
Zibbie – i can only imagine how pissed off dalglish will be, first keane now andreas perriera.
Judging by the boy’s comment, he seems to have confidence in his ability despite his ability, we need young players like this to be a real force for the future and if all our youth develop and fulfill their potential then we’ll be a serious threat while saving millions at the same time, Of course this is all if’s and but’s but i hope all this great things happen.
Despite his age not ability lol bloody typo.
Morning ROMers.
On topic: I give kusman credit for believing he deserves to be numero uno. Lad has no shortage of confidence. Skill set- not too bad, not great.
The club ‘may’ have a slight problem over the next few months if the britlondonmedia is right – we have a top heavy squad with players. Strikers – waaay to many and the upcoming talents will want a shot – macheda, diouf, king, petrucci, cofie etc worse is our midfield where as much as we can protect morrisson, maybe its time to let him play or risk a stupid bid from a madrid, citah or an london club. Pogba as well..can we keep him, if rumours of frencharse-nil are true?
Zibbie – Thanks for the link buddy…
Well the kid certainly can talk the talk but personally I have no idea about him whatsoever and will not get excited till I see him play….snubbing Liverpool is always a good start to get into our hearts though!
Morning all
Has anyone got a link to the Rio Ferdinand Poppy story thats circulated somewhere. Ive heard snippets and the headline doesnt read to well but I havent read the full story yet.
Devil310
I am fine my friend, hope you are as well…. Nicely spotted, they are similar indeed and I think I jumped with the same excitement for both! Mind you I might have jumped more for the Pearson goal simply because my legs back then allowed me to! hahaha
Maybe someone can fill me in on this Poppy ‘fiasco’.
How come it is taking the FA and this retarded Prime Minister so long to figure out that the Poppy is a potentially divisive political symbol?
Are these people simpleton’s?
brett1885
Seems Im a simpleton. How is the poppy a decisive political symbol. I thought it was a mark of peace as it was poppys that grew back first and covered large areas of battlefield in Belgium and northern France after the trench warfare of WW1. It has been regarded as a new beginning and rebirth and used to commemorate the dead.
brett1985
All I know is that they are worn on Remembrance Day, never really knew they were a political symbol of sorts…. Here is a nice link for those who have no idea about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
in the wake of Fergie’s 25th anniversary, accolades have been pouring in from everywhere,current players,legendary players,former players now managing clubs, small managers, big managers, FIFA bigwigs, media houses, organizations e.t.c and i’ve lost count of how many glowing press releases have been written in his honor(the telegraph should probably just have a section in its paper labeled “25 years of Fergie”.) Recently on one such article, i noticed a Liverpool fan and a host of other online persona were involved in an argument about how Fergie intimidates people and the pool fan insinuated that people just respect Ferguson like everyone respected Don Corleone, i knew enough about that character to know that he meant something to the effect of “respect out of fear.” however i hadn’t really ever read the book “The Godfather” fully even though I’ve had it on my PC for some time now. So with some free time on my hands, i proceeded to devour the 6 part book. I made some interesting observations, not least the fact that this book is the encyclopedia for gangster movies in much the same way ‘Treasure Island’ and ‘Lord of the Rings’ set the precedent for pirate movies and fantasy movies respectively but what struck me is that though the pool fan certainly meant it in a bad way, there are striking similarities between Ferguson and the Don and not mainly in the guns and the blood,but the enduring character of the Sicilian itself. I couldn’t write all of them here, but i could summarize them in the way he attracts and values fierce loyalty and longtime alliances which when broken could cause a longstanding vendetta, the players play for him and most have said they fear him and for the major part of their United careers have lived in fear of disappointing him,causing even the pretty average players to overachieve, his contagious personality, the aura itself that a Manutd.com reporter wrote about on here recently that causes people to think he intimidates refs when he doesn’t necessarily do such a thing, and the way he makes decisions for the longtime future and not for immediate success. The Dailymail actually quoted Steve Bruce saying Fergie is good and supportive to lesser managers for a host of reasons but also because he knows if he asks them for a player, they will rarely refuse-don’t know how true that is but it just particularly reminded of the don and that undertaker. pretty soon his former players could constitute a sizable portion of the LMA,increasing his circle of influence, not by his doing of course,but in much the same way kids that Vito Carleone had mentored and helped with their education had become DAs and gotten into high offices,doing him a favor every now and then. Its lots of stuff but you get the drift. He’s also good with delegation of duties but you should just probably read the book for yourself and decide. I know its pretty chilling comparing him to such an ominous character so don’t get me wrong.
Its inadvertedly political and it depends how you see it.
Whether you agree or not, many people in Ireland do not wear the poppy.
Have the British Army ever done anything that is wrong in the past?
The thing is the fa, david cameron and clearly a great many people in the public- want to make an articifical distinction to claim the poppy is not political when there is an inherent political aspect.
We could go on all day about this and believe me I’m proud of what veterans did in WW1 AND WW2. Not so sure about the Faulklands, N. Ireland, Iraq and Afg.
There were many good heros and so bad people- just like in every walk of life. By all means remember those who gave up their lives but don’t attempt to claim that the poppy is a pure symbol.
Politics has almost universal application regardless of the situation.
This is just sad but true and I support FIFAs ban. God help us if it opens the door for the likes of isreal, Iran or North Korea to start wearing symbols that others do not appreciate.
RedHound
I hardly ever read long posts, but I read yours and certainly enjoyed it! I did not get you wrong in any way, after all Sir Alex IS the Godfather of British football and when he makes an offer you simply cannot refuse!
brett1985
I think in some way you see the poppy as a symbol of England winning the war and a chance through commemorating the dead to have a little one upmanship on those defeated or those angry we won.
The poppy is a sybol of those that died, not those that won. There were no winners other than those that sat in the trenches on November the 12th on both sides. Of course Im glad we won the war but the emotion isnt as deep with me as the fact we lost diplomacy. War inevitably makes one side the victor but neither side wins anything through war.
To commemorate such happenings is to keep them fresh in our minds.The millions dead on the battlefield, the millions executed in ethnic cleansing, the millions killed in political cleansing the millions of innocent people even those fallen to the A bomb. Its the rememberance of this attrocities that keep us safer that little bit longer, for lest we forget.
I understand.
However…
I am suggesting that to remember those who are dead, we remember what they did, what that meant and what the outcome was. It may not be the issue for you, you may just wish to remember a relative who made a sacrifice but in the end the totality of who that person was and what they did is all relevant.
This is before we get onto the issue of remembering WW1 soldiers who joined the black and tans and killed Michael Hogan on a sports field or other documented events.
I’m not saying this to have a dig at good men who did great things in the war. I’m just saying it doesn’t take a contrived view to see soldiers fighting in wars as POTENTIALLY political.
I actually find it almost bizare that David Cameron a politician would claim the poppy is not political while using it to pour supposed shame on FIFA for their decision to implement a clearly defined rule.
And what would it mean to use the poppy in a match against Argentina.
Like I said in my first post I’m open to alternative views and I ultimately respect the poppy rememberence in any other context but a football match. There are many people in Ireland who wear the poppy despite subsequent events since WW1 AND WW2.
Seems Tevez has gone AWOL again….Can never be grateful enough for getting rid of him, and to think some questioned the club for letting him go!
The bitters play the dippers away on the 27th…. Always one of the worst games for me to watch, just wish there was a formula where by both teams can lose!
I can’t agree with the Poppy ban don’t see it as Political,how is respecting those who died fighting for their countries Political.Goat i don’t see the poppy as England winning the war alot more countries were involved and its not just about the World Wars,money generated from poppy sales go to the veterans of all wars.
I’m not going to get into it but no question war has been distorted but the bottomline soldiers are asked to make the ulitmate sacrifice and then seem to become forgotton figures once back into society,most need financial,medical or mental help Rememberance Day is to remember also to help those who surivived.
FIFA are just a corrupt organiseation with no moral fibre and quite frankly should have fuck all to do with this,i think it’s disgraceful and just shows what a classless bunch of cunts FIFA are.The FA should tell FIFA to go fuck themsevles
Keep it footy fellas, discussing politics here will unleash the biggest can of worms this site has ever seen…. There is enough political grief in the world and this is not the place to discuss it…
Just my opinion
Cedars
Most of the stadium was chanting ‘Fergie Fergies sign him up’ over the mangers end of season address.
It is funny to see city getting exactly what they deserve- isnt it!
Keep it footy fellas, discussing politics here will unleash the biggest can of worms this site has ever seen…. There is enough political grief in the world and this is not the place to discuss it…
Just my opinion
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Don’t worry I don’t need to go any further down the road of politics, I’ve made my point.
@Cedars hi mate just responding to some comments,like i said need someone to explain how Rememberence Day is considered political.
It just struck me that whoever succeeds Ferguson will quite literally sit in the shadow of his name
brett1985
To be honest I will confess that I was one those hoping he would stay and was slightly disappointed that he left….. But over the years the boss has taught me never to doubt him!
Now he has become the joke of the media, just what City deserve
I’m with Goat and Wayne on this. The idea, that the poppy offends people is completely insane. I don’t see how this would offend any country. The game is in England. At Wembley, no less. Against the Spanish. If England were playing Ireland, for instance, I could see the argument, even though I would still disagree. My old man was a solider. His father was a solider. He Fought in the 2nd world war. We shouldn’t really be talking about this here. I had to give my 2 pennies worth. ps I will add that no one should be forced into wearing a poppy. That should be up to the individual.
wayne & brett1985
Not my place to tell people what to post or not to post…… Just thought I would ring the alarm bells.
Cheers for understanding
Ironically it is because I don’t want politics to enter football that I brought up the point….not out of a love of politics or hate for the poppy which my grandfather who is Irish- wears.
Right, back to what I posted earlier…. The bitters play the dippers on the 27th….. In terms of the title race we want the bitters to drop points but how on earth do we get ourselves to celebrate a goal by the dippers? Way too confusing emotionally….. I could not even smile when Liverpool beat Newcastle 4-3 back in the day and therefore giving us a huge boost to win the league
RedHound
I understand the wish to compare Sir Alex with a maffia don as people in power no doubt are the focus of masculinity for countless people growing up But I think earning respect through hard work and excelling in a particular field is far superior to knifing and shooting people and controlling through fear and manipulation. Its a far cry from creating a network of contacts of people you have respected and treated well and expect respect in return when its your go to receive THAN gaining respek through blowing peoples brains out or making concrete shoes.
As for the Bruce statement, which in my opinion is ill thought out and no doubt he will get a rollicking from Sir Alex, it goes along way from telling the whole truth. Remember not telling a whole truth is the same as a lie. It is not the case that young managers feel “intimidated” or that it is “expected” that a young manager HAS TO sell his players to the big cheese, its more the fact that the young manager learned alot during his stay at OT, coached by the worlds best coach does that and he has learned what a young prospect looks like before he becomes a star. The young manager brings him in and he excells. The player has higher aspirations than playing for the minows of said league that the young manager coaches and whispers and knudges take place between all peoples of football and their agents. The player hears of this interest and says to the young manager that a deal would be good for both parties. This is a far cry from intimidating and expecting a young managers player. A bit stupid of Bruce and not much of a compliment in my book.
England are to wear black armbands.
Good compromise.
@Willie my dad was in the second world war and Rememberence Day was the biggest day of the year for him before he got to old and all his old mates started dying used to go to reunions every year.My brother was also in the army,both are dead now but since my dads death i keep a poppy pinned in my car for each year.Veterans have to generate money were they can,i sell mints for them at my store,i know that’s not much but my point they need all the help they can get
Poppy Day is a personal day for me the last thing on my my is politics
mind
Almost every country on earth has had its martyrs, people dying for some sort of a cause or another… Gets very emotional when you talk about it…. Everyone has a right to respect and remember their dead…. But for God’s sake whats that got to do with football?
FOOTBALL and United is why we all post here
honestly who gives a fuck about this stupid clown anymore, let the noob cunt rot in reserves until he retires or contract runs out, the kid wont stop shit talkin the club its no wonder they dont care enough to try and help you, your a crap keeper who cant kick the ball to his own team if his career depended on it, it wait it does and your 4th string.
getting kinda tired of hearing about him
GoatinaUnitedShirt,
interesting view and thanks for your input. i know am treading a thin line here and this is why i carefully chose to leave out the reasons for why the don was respected or how he had gained that respect but rather focus on the end results and what they had achieved.
Giles Oakley – if you’re reading this, congrats on your letter on the back of today’s Guardian’s sports sections. True words spoken!
@Cedars it’s nothing to do with football,it’s just showing respect and i don’t see how having a poppy on the shirt would cause anyone to be offended.Think what really gets my goat[no pun intended] is FIFA passing moral judgement,it’s laughable,this has fuck all to do with them and the whole lot of them are corrupt cunts
kanchelskis
Any link to that buddy? would love to read it
We have to understand that with every decision that is made on an issue that people feel strongly about you immediately isolate a large proportion of these people and put their backs up. Thats why polititions try to make as few decisions as possible and those that do become prime ministers often were in the shadows in the years leading up to their appointment. They hadnt had the time or will to make decisions so they remain popular unlike the Kenneth Clarks, Michael Hesselteins of this world.
FIFA have put up alot of our backs on this and it may go to share some blushes for some people but at the expense of upsetting others.
If I was England manager I would have the poppy on the shirt on velcro. The team captain would make his way to the center circle to meet the ref. The ref will no doubt be ordered to say something by FIFA and the captain would take off the Poppy to massive boos and whistles by the crowd. He would then attach another badge in its place depicting a burning Spanish Armada ship to huge delight of a highly wound up crowd. FIFA would have no juristiction to call of the match as that hasnt been warned about and legally they can be sued for the cost of the match should they cancel it. We then kick seven shades of shit out of the Spanish players in a match that resembles more the River Plate derby. We then scatter poppy pettles at full time on their fallen heros as they whinge and whine from the kicking and biting. Should we get banned from the Euro12 fair enough, because anyone out there still hanging on hope of winning the tournament is seriously retarded especially when run by a man (Capello) who says today that we have no answer to the spanish’s play. Instead of being shamed and then shamed again, why not go out with a bang and then make a stance of not going to Euro12. IO may actually start watching the national team again.
Wayne – I donate money to the British Legion every year. They send me a poppy to my mobile. As you say, it’s not much, but it’s something at least. Good point about the vets. By in large, these men are forgot about. By donating some money, at least they will see something out this. The poppy, is a great thing imo. Of course, not everyone will be of the same opinion as you me. That doesn’t concern me, though.
wayne
Since when have FIFA or UEFA ever made any sense……. Corrupt bunch of cunts indeed buddy
Platini & Blatter? what a pair of ignorant twats
Remember that Platini tried yet failed to convince Robbe to leave us and join Juve….CUNT
Ops, meant Robbo of course! Damn, last person’s name I should misspell ! hahaha
Robbe? Was that Robbo’s alter ego? Lol.
Willie
Piss off! hahahaha
soren – Where are you my love, I miss you darling…..
Damn, these drugs are fucking me up…. Just 5 more days to go! woho
Please Fergie allow him to go
Ah, enough about the poppy. For now just focus on Mr Poppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX2pEQn8Yk8
A 10 minute 41 second long footage of Andreas Pereira:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g19OOWoxHU&feature=player_embedded
Costas
Hahaha, that was hilarious!
prasan
Thanks for that, but in all honesty I did not know which player he was! What number is he wearing in that video?
Those comments on youtube crack me up by the way
@Willie yes mate it’s figured 20% of all homeless in the States are veterans it’s fucking disgraceful.Yet the other side of the coin these cunt bankers who set up a system that was doomed to fail and bet on it failing are living the life when they should all be in jail,honestly makes my blood boil,something seriously fucked up with society.
@Cedars
Hi mate. It is, isn’t it? I remember watching Hale and Pace while I lived in England. Hillarious duo.
@ Cedars
Thanks for the mention buddy. How are you doing my Nigerian loving red?
I guess he’s wearing number 16 in the vid and those comments on youtube are hilarious indeed!
prasan
Nigerian? err Guess you mean I love Nigerian babes eh? Well just one that wears a white uniform hahaha
Pleasure by the way buddy…. Will watch it again and look out for number 16
@ Cedars
Hahaha…meant that indeed..but isn’t the word Nigerian synonymous with that white uniform lady here on ROM anyways?
prasan
It is indeed, add to that the babe with the finest piece of ass to ever exist! hahahaha
Costas
Not too familiar with the show, should do some catching up I suppose… Hardly watch TV these unless its football….. Back in the day I used to love Fawlty Towers, always cracked the fuck out of me…Would be a feat for anyone to make me laugh more than John Cleese
Costas – I forgot you lived in England for a while. That’s why I was gonna say, hows he know about hale and pace? Lol.
Btw, after a long time, was playing against Arsenal in FIFA on my pc the other day and something hilarious happened (and the same instance has happened once previously as well)
66 minutes into the game – Nasri substituted for Song to come in
68 minutes into the game – Song substituted for Eduardo to come in
70 minutes into the game – Eduardo sub for Walcott to come in
Wonder what Wenger was thinking there!
Although, he did had the common sense to keep “Cedar’s new found love” on the pitch and that’s not the Nigerian babe with the finest piece of ass to ever exist but a certain gentleman by the name of RVP!
2 other people come close and always have me in tears, one is Homer Simpson because I want to be him and I envy him! hahaha the other is Billy Connolly a true legend…. just a glimpse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPWVq6MwW4E
And, just to avoid the confusion it was FIFA 2010 which is why Nasri and Eduardo still play for Arsenal!:D
Cedars … only just saw your post at 22:08 … I have to guess that “check them out” has a different meaning where you are lol. Here, it just means to take a look at something. In this case, you suggested I catch up on Milan by finding a DVD or watching youtube or something, and I was only confirming that I would do that. Interesting how the same words in the same language mean different things to different cultures. In Australia (and in England, I think), “pissed” means drunk, “fag” means cigarette, and “fanny” means “pussy”. In the States, pissed = angry, fag = gay and fanny = ass. But I never heard that connotation on “checking something out” before! Cheers!
prasan
Not too much in touch with modern day game thingies, last game of sorts I played was Atari Space Invaders back in 85 or was it 86 not sure……
Now why on earth would you bring RVP into this? The mere mention of his name makes me drool hahahahaha
Stateside
They mean the same where I am from as well my friend, was just a play around on words and an excuse to have a laugh!
Stateside
Having lived in England for so many years, to me a fag will always mean a ciggy…. I mean what else can you hand someone who asks you for one? hahahaha
@ Cedars
Always good to play for a good laugh buddy and found this particular instance really funny! And, regarding RVP, it’s my responsibility as a red to make sure that a true fellow red’s “interest” is kept in check even if it’s a fucking pc game for that matter! And, I’m glad that Mr. Arsene “I did not zee it” Wenger didn’t screw up the love affair there!
prasan
Cheers! hahahaha
Ah RVP, aka my new found love, his 5th at the Bridge ranks as one of the best goals I ever saw, and believe me I have seen many…… But his goal celebration afterwards, almost holy! drooling
Going off for a while…see you guys later..enjoy!
@ Cedars
I am sure you are watching that 5th goal and the celebration on youtube as I say this!
As I am feeling nostalgic again I have to give a mention to Brian Moore (RIP) my all time best football commentator
Good day all! And all a good day.
Bonjour Zibbie
Cedars, a great tree! Well it is a break, this sucks. hehe
Fucking thoughts turn to transfers, way to early to think of that.
See you have decided to just ignore and move on cool, that’s what I did with him weeks ago. I chimed in when his attack was at you.
I miss Smartalex, saw a Zulu post the other day and thought of him.
You people who have watched SAF for 25 years know him better then I do. He has a plan with this new team, a shopping list of sorts. His next great team. The papers suck get me thinking bullshit, like Pogba to leave and to the Gunners, fuck that!
An early snow storm here, 3 wet inches and still coming down.
Zibbie
I miss smartalex too, as well as Kings and King Eric sigh
Ya, just ignore the ignorant, sort of a motto of mine…Besides I am not hateful and hardly ever bare any grudges
I know you forgave me, hehe.
For people in North America, this Joe Paterno, thing sucks.
At 24 now, I was hoping for more consistency from Nani. A true push for one of the worlds 20 best player type.
Is TC back to full training?
Hows Rooney’s hair?
Is DDG getting free donuts from crispy cream for all the publicity?
How can’t Lois Lane know Clark Kent is not Superman?
Mikekelly
If you read this, many thanks for the email, I replied and even sent you my number…. Do text me if you can… Would be fantastic to get to know a fellow red closer…..Even better if they worship Captain Marvel!
Zibbie
Not my place to forgive my good friend, you are a decent person and I was only trying to play peace maker at the time. But thanks anyway!
Smoking Joe Frazier Tributes from the world of sport flood in :-
Boxing. Mohamed Ali stated that he was a true great.
Golf. Greg Norman stated that the world had lost a true sportsman
Athletics. Carl Lewis said the world will never see his like again
Football. John Terry said the black cunt was a legend.
Well I got to break out the snow removal equipment. The 1st half dozen times is fun, then it becomes more like work.
Tony I will be 50 in December, I remember the build up and there 1st fight.
Smoking Joe VS Ali !!!!!
Just bumped into this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zr-B7vk_o_k
Tony, LOL. JT’S quote.
still older than you Zibster…….
prasan, AWESOME!!!! To have a quite mind when there is mayhem all around you is greatness.
TonyBee
Just like a fine wine, beauty comes with age….. You old beaut you!
Tony congratulations, on all your marks on the chalkboard of life.
Back when Boxing was still a big sport the mid 60′s!!!
Zibbie
Wow, 50 soon? Congrats buddy…. I always knew Giles was older than me here but now it seems TonyBee and yourself are as well!
Yep, if God lets me Dec. 19th. Will be my 50th mark on the chalkboard of life.
I grew up at the end of the baby boom in a Catholic German, Irish town where there were family’s of 6 to 14 kids. We wanted for nothing and never had civil wars or guns in the streets like you and Willie and more here. Lived in Cal. from 85 to 90, then the Twin Cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul for 2 years the Denver for 3 years and St.Louis for 18 months , with stints in South America, Mexico and the Jamaica. Then back to Dubuque Iowa in 96.
@ Zibbie
Thanks for the mention buddy. Howz your health now? And, advanced birthday wishes for your 50th pal!
Thanks, Prasan. The back surgery I had last, seems to have taken well. I was soar after a fishing vacation with all the pounding in the boat. The thing about flying is turbulence can be nasty. And past neck surgery’s is the question. If my neck keeps getting better and stronger. I can fly hit bad turbulence and not worried of breaking my surgically repair neck.
Good discussion on the poppy guys, if you’re interested there is an interesting article on the BBC about it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15637074
I have to admit that I didn’t know that the tradition started in the States.
As for PIG I was pretty surprised that he didn’t leave in the summer but not as surprised as when we first bought the bloke! Yes he had a couple of stand out performances for the Baggies but you could see then that his distribution, handling of crosses and command of the area were abysmal – he was never going to become our number one.
badger, nice read. My dad was in WWII and I visit his grave site on what we call Memorial Day. That is the observance here. Parades, war movies and war documentary’s all over the tube. In the states we have only had one big war here the civil. Sure 1776 and 1812 but we here are not war torn. WWII devastated cities towns and civil populations of Europe and Asia. The poppies are much, much bigger in the UK. My dad was a Marine Captain, of a troop transport ship for D-Day. What a trip.
Cedars … here in the States, you definitely would not want to say something like, “I’m just going outside to suck on a fag” hahaha!
Badger, SAF and Man Utd with retirement and Wes, JOS and Hargo moving on freed up so much money in salary he keep him for insurance of a DDG and Lindy melt down. Just like Berba, he can afford the insurance.
Stateside, thanks for all the slang translations. hahahaha
I’m going to take a blow, and suck down a couple fags.
@Cedars
Think it’s print only mate.
@Staeside, is your sons soccer season done? An update of the coach who parks the bus.
I loved your breakdown of cunt, how down under it means something different then here, and what it means in the UK. It makes me understand that I took the word as an American almost a fighting word. When the guys from the UK called me cunt it is more a slam then a fuck you.
England can wear poppies on the black arm band.!!!
Some of you lads should know our slang by now. You’ve been on this blog a while now lol.
@Zibbie
Have you watched band of brothers? Brilliant series on HBO? Shows what them young lads went through, for our future freedom.
Off topic. Lets all Laugh at Shitty Ha Ha Ha Ha!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15651136.stm
What a Troll.
TC
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Nov/danny-welbeck-thinks-tom-cleverley-is-top-class.aspx
SAF always looking to better the club
http://www.manutd.com/en/Sir-Alex-25-Years/Sir-Alex-25-Years-News/2011/Nov/sir-alex-ferguson-eye-for-a-buy.aspx
@Willie, Jello. It took me awhile to get caught up on some slang. And still learning all the time.
I saw the Band of Brothers. Awesome. Saving Private Ryan shows the cost of Liberty as well mate.
The start of Private Ryan at the National cemetery, when I was 13 my dad took us on a 3 week vacation in a motor home, and we went to Arlington a Washington D.C. National Cemetery and he found men he knew. And he was at Omaha beach and BAM the movie goes to that beach.
Do any welding I wonder.
@ Zibbie
Wish you a speedy recovery my friend and good health always!
Thanks, If I keep progressing with my physical therapy I can Fly by spring and finally see a game at Old Trafford. !!!!! God willing.
Tunnicliffe has returned from loan and is training with the first team
United linked with Yohan Cabaye – I have rated this fella since his lille days
Reminds of someone dunno who
PIG can fuck off, he’s like shit scraped on the toilet, feel sorry for him but the big mouth deserves this, why go public with your business?
Who’s this new kid we signed…andreas perraira? is he the 2nd coming?
Fuck Fifa, and their empty gestures. Corrupt cunts.
Jame21 he truly is a Troll.
Stateside – lol….. Sort of knew that one mind you!
Papii England is wearing you on a black arm band!
FIFA corrupt old world Kings and Lord muther fuckers!!
Willie
Do not be rude, Blatter is a decent bloke
@Papii from Man Utd web site.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Transfer-Speculation/2011/Nov/November-transfer-rumours.aspx
I want to step on his Bladder.
Fuck septic blatter too!
My mama told me
If I was goody
That she would buy me a rubber dolly
My auntie told her
she kissed a soldier
——-
who writes such stupid songs eh?
Hahahahahaha – Damn I hate these International breaks
Willie & Zibbie
Indeed! Fuck em all I say, put Leeds into the mix too
Fuck the Diaz brothers! Fuck em all!
Evening all
Cedars – got it pal, sent you a reply a moment ago. So how is everyone? What’s the hot topic of debate?
@Papii, thanks.
Tunnicliffe has returned from loan and is training with the first team ???????
He must be ready to reinforce the MF!!!!!!
Evening Monkey! hahahaha
Our little secret
Hey Mikekelly, just International break nonsense.
Dreaming of SAF shopping list!
I’m happy Man Utd beat Liverwurst to Andreas Perraira.
@ Papii
That’s great news pal..any links supporting that Tunnicliffe story?
@ Cedars
Leeds I see…how is Moses the sheep shagging cunt then?
Good evening Red Devils around the world,
No football and life is fucked up,
pain in the ass this so called bloody joke friendly international breaks..
There back!
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Nov/tunnicliffe-and-drinkwater-back-at-manchester-united.aspx
prasan
Let us not disturb Moses now, its sheep breeding season in Yorkshire
Moses is in the Rut.
Cedars – Haha!! Evening Zibbie. Yep, international break sucks dick! Only thing we have to look forward to is the news that we haven’t picked up any injuries!
Clint – so have we signed this Perriera kid? 15 isn’t he? Not seen anything of him but news was EVERYONE was after him but he’s a United fan so happy days! Tunni back too? Not sure what was going on at peterborough? Didn’t hear anything of him. Will we see him against Palace??
1878 is in Da House!!! Hello to all of India.
Mikekelly LOL!! COME ON NO INJURY’S!!!!!!!!!
Just read zibbies link, looks like they’re only back during the break.
@Prasan, here is a site I like, then click Man Utd.
http://fourfourtwo.com/clubs/manchesterunited/news.aspx
@ Cedars
Hahahaha…let the scum rot!
@ Zibbie
Thanks for the link regarding Tunni and Drinkwater!
Seems like they would train with the first team during the break and then return to their loan clubs unless the boss feels that they are going to be needed this season! Can’t wait for those lads to break in the first team, esp. Tunni!
Tunni wasn’t starting many games at wee Fergie’s club. Not sure if he will get any game time at United. Would like to see a bit of him. King Eric speaks highly of the lad.
Willie if he can develop like Evans, TC and Welbeck did on their loans!!!!!
I have heard a lot of great reviews on Tunni, never seen him play though. Any how, welcome back son
Mikekelly – Couple of emails sent buddy
Happy Birthday Del Piero,
one fo the greats of the game,
Alessandro Del Piero, the Juventus captain, says he appreciates Barclays Premier League football and that Manchester United hold a special place in his heart.
“I learned to appreciate [English football] early in my career because of matches against Premier League clubs and above all Manchester United.
“I love the way the English enjoy football with passion and sportsmanship.
“I also love the atmosphere, the spirit, stadiums like Old Trafford and the attitude of the fans: what is more beautiful than to see the fans of both teams head to the stadium without any problems?”
Heard that Leeds United are seriously considering naming of their stands the Sheep Stand…. Why on earth would they do that?
Hello Zibbie,
what up..
Long time you dint mention about the cruises and fishing, wat up, got bored?
Hello Cedars, Willie, Mike and Prasan…
watching 08 season review and in the flashback,
RedNev runs 5o yards sprint and takes down the ball over the touchline with a sexy tackle..
Oh dear god, How we miss his game, passion and the best badge kissing…
Ah Del Piero, one of the very few players that our Keano spoke highly of…. Take a bow son, Keane likes you!
Tunnicliffe,fucking start of the smokescreen.Get fucking spending.
Hi Sandeep
Sorry that err (Cannot spell his name) did not get his century of centuries…. Not a big fan of cricket but I know how huge it is in India….
Only time I ever had an interest in the sport was probably early 80 during the time when the West Indies were formidable…. The Viv Richards era if you like…. Also went to a few county games in England during my time, but that was only to enjoy a day out and down a few beers… hahaha
Sandeep – Hello mate? Del Piero was always a favorite of mine. I watched a lot of Italian football back in the day. Juventus and Milan had great sides then. Not so much now, though lol.
Cedars,
No issues my friend,
it is Sachin Tendulkar,
Oh Viv Richards,
havent seem him in my time but he is one of the ledends of the game..
West Windies certainly had the most gifted cricketers in 70s to 80s to 90s and its really shame to see their free fall,
Desmend haines, the fearsome monsters ambrose and walsh, swashbuckling Lara, Gritty Chanderpaul, The reliable Hooper,
They were cracking players…
Zibbie, what up, u underwent any surgery?
1878, hello. It is Deer season, I have been blessed I have harvested a few real big bucks in the past. My buddy plants food plots and hangs cameras an we manage the deer around hear. I will shoot only a 5 1/2 year old and above. We have targeted 6 big what we call shooters the rest walk. He harvested a huge buck early in the season. I have not saw one of the bucks on the hit list wear I could get a good shot off. I will fill the freezer with doe’s and management bucks if I do not get a real big old guy! I like the late muzzle loader and shot gun season. Gives them time for the big guys to mate the doe’s. Young deer taste the best.
Oh and I will head north for ice fishing and riding snow mobiles 100 MPH on the lakes and rivers of Northern Minnesota with my cousins later in the winter.
Willie,
Hello mate,
Yup he is a great player,
ditched an offer to land at bayern and could have been the highest paid Italian footballer ever, but the love for his childhood was more than any millions for him,
very rarely these kind of players come, i m proud to say we had plenty such in our time – RedNev, Scholesy, Giggsy, Ole.
Juventus was very good indeed but the current Italian league has fucked up to say the least, but Milan have started to score plenty and they look a moderate threat this season..
on the other hand, i heard Inter Milan have leaked 16 goals in the first 8 or 9 games in the league – highest in their history me thinks..
Itlian Legue is going down i feel, not only boring to watch but poor as well except few clubs – but that is the common feeling of an EPL fan, innit?
Sandeep
Evening pal.
New thread by the way chaps.
Cedars
Sent a reply pal.
Zibbie,
now that is what you call a real Zibbie,
going with your cousins to fishing seems to be ominus with you..
good to hear it pal, have loads of fun, i know you will…
1878 last year I went through back surgery and then spent 20 days in the hospital with a staff infection, during that recovery I became a regular here. I took me 6 more weeks before I could work and went stir crazy, RoM was therapy for me. I do marketing consultant work that has developed into a management training as well. I’m finishing a contract now and have set up my next project. To start in 3 weeks.
Monkey
Got it buddy, sent one back! Feels like a first date hahahahahaha
Do some here know why we hate Leeds so much? I know I do….
If you think you know the answer post it here, right guesses will win you a very special Cedars prize hehehe
Tunni only back for the international break. Will then return to Posh.
Hi all!!
I want to be a slave so well paid haha.
@CedarsDevil. How are you?
My platonic love has always been Michael Owen. With his baby face.
RVP is cute but not my type haha
soren
My love! I am fine darling
What are you implying? That RVP is my type? hahaha Just like him from an err footballing point of view! hahaha
Owen is cute no doubt but what about the Little Pea? Cannot be cuter than that! No shame with getting in touch with our feminine side as it were…. hahahaha
Cedars. I was only kidding.
Owen when I was a teenager, now Javier is the number one ha ha.
soren
Me too, I am always kidding hahaha
Seriously though RVP is some player, would love him at United…. He is also cute though! haha
sorry for the late reply, glad that i brought news to RoM thought it was old news.
Tunni returned playing 9 games for Peterborough, he can’t play in Carling cup – cup tied after he played 1 game.
Drinkwater has played 8 for Barnsley and scored once I think, eligible for Carling Cup
I’ve Heard good things about this funny named fella
MikeK – Its all rumours etc, sounds like fact though considering january is a bit away and reports say he rejected liverpool for us, he looks ok hard to tell with a 15 year old based on youtube.
Prasan – The Utd website has the story mate
Zibbie – I don’t want to be on the armband
Remove the england flag, Put Me On It Instead with a middle finger saying – ” I Want You – Bend Over ”
When was the last time United played ? Feels like a lifetime ago
CedarsDevil You’re crazy ha ha
If is very good player, the best of Arsenal. (Jack Wilshere too).
Cedars You Wierdo !
Good looking XI;
David De Gea
Rafael Jones Santon
Valencia Silva Rodwell Ben Arfa
Torres Chico Berba
Papii
And you say I am weird eh? hahahaha….. I know I am you perv
soren
Do not like Wilshere so much, seems too big headed for his young age
Papii
Another thing, your list is meant for good looking or cute footballers…. Why on earth is Torres on there? Or was that a special tranny category? hahahaha
Good looking XI
Casillas
Rafael Vidic,Jones, Alves,
Mata, Silva, Alonso, Beckham
Chico, Pato
Bench: Navas, Tom C, De Rossi, Totti, Higuain
soren
And I do not even make the bench my love? sobbing
Cannavaro and Maldini were my favorites, but they are no longer playing
do you have a picture? ha ha.
I’m going, good night.
Sweet dreams soren, take care my friend