Tomasz Kuszczak has joined Watford on loan until the end of the season. Watford are currently 17th in the Championship.
Kuszczak has been unhappy at the club for some time after dropping further down the pecking order. This season he has been the 4th choice keeper and often plays for the Reserves.
Last summer the club rejected an offer from his former club West Brom for him, much to his disappointment.
“I am angry and disappointed with the way I am treated,” Kuszczak said at the time. “I had a few good offers. The problem was the club who wanted to sell me for £4m.”
Kuszczak hasn’t played for the first team since last May when United won a record breaking 19th title at Ewood Park.
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I think this move is in everybodies best interests.
Good riddance!!
Bye PIG !
All the best to him . If he is honest with himself , he will understand how nervous he made the fans .
Good piece of business there. Good luck PIG. Hope you’ll make the Polish squad for the Euros.
off topic: this talk about Pogba and Rio persuading him to stay is worrying me…
Youngsters wanting to leave Utd -we’re not used to that. Changing times?
Good luck PIG, just glad he did nott join the sheep shaggers
It’s almost the end of the season and andy carroll finally feels “Fit and confident”. Anyone new to the game would think he’s been out all season due to injury, not realising the twat has been clogging away on the pitch like a lorry transporting elephants. He scored a goal against a hapless brighton side run by suarez’s ass licking racist mate “Goose” poyet and now suddenly he’s back to his “Best” and ready to rampage the premier league like the bull that he is. KingEric must be chuckling at this bullshit.
Seems queen kenny has been hypnotising caroll and all other garbage he has bought with that “Positive thinking” Yoga crap again. OH DEAR!
Samuel
‘like a lorry transporting elephants’ ? Haha Just pissed my self mate
Cedars – There’s a problem in the game when donkeys like carroll transfer for 35 million and then we get crap in the media that he’s still developing. Yeah about as improving as delap’s ability to actually do what he’s paid for which is to kick a football not fucking launch rocket like a beach volley ball player.
Samuel
Bloody hell mate, you are on a roll! That Delap comment just seemed so spot on! haha
As for the donkey, I said before just give him 10 to 15 years, he’ll come good
Best in every parties interests..
see ya later PIG..
Great! Better for everyone
I don’t like him, but united shouldn’t have waited fo so lng to send him out on loan
He deserve another adventure elsewhere as he has given us his all.Hope he gets a spor with his national team
Aah… Caroll… sigh!
PIG…..????
Plays in goal?
Poland is good?
Pasty in Greggs?
I think Roy Carroll would score more than Andy Carroll.
And in other news, vieira, the man famous for giving Giggsy the ball, and also for bottling up like milk gone bad that never came out again, has claimed that ‘his’ man $hitty team remind him of the invincibles and are better than United. *Coughs*
Also Karel Poborsky!
Wonder what he is upto these days? Wikipedia says he has retired but doesn’t mention what he is doing with himself. Anybody know?
Has anyone seen United (the movie)? About the Munich disaster. Watched till the crash, then had to go study because of a Physics exam the next day. Good up till that point. Portrayed from point of view of Sir Bobby and Jimmy Charlton. Sir Giles’ favourite keeper Harry Gregg prominently featured. Released last year, BBC production. Very touching.
Bye TK officially P I G
Thanks for the memories – though I sold you in FM 10 and have done so subsequently in FM 11 and FM 12
I wonder if James did the same
Pratyush
Try reading Sir Bobby’s biography. Way better than the movie. After the book the movie would pale in comparison. The difference is the great man’s experience, in his words. Never been so touched by a book in this way after The Motorcycle Diaries.
@redrider
I’ve read the United biography by Jim White. That’s a good one too.
Pratyush
I did… Very very touching!
Some real footage are on too
Loved it
Redrider
I watched the motorcycle diaries on movie… Very nice
hi everyone.
its been a long time
btw who is playing on thursday?
Jasmine_mufc
Ajax at old trafford
Now for something lighter
The Manchester United footballer Sir Ryan Giggs of Old Trafford The Theater of Dreams has finally given up his anonymity over the Imogen Thomas affair.
Phew
In due light of this statement:
You naughty boy Giggsy! How could you! Why would you!
(was it good?)
lebomanc
I’ve seen the movie too… very good. I still listen to the Soundtrack to take myself some place far way… Gustavo Santaolalla… magician. But the book is to kill for. Stirred me up… still does.
Wait.
I got a Filipino Cupid advert on my page
Imogennnn……… Drooooools
Gustavo Santaolalla is pure genius
I totally agree on that one
Redrider
A friend of mine has the book, will try to read it some time
RIP Duncan Edwards.
Interesting reading from Q2 financial performance, profits are clearly surfacing the Glazer debt but at least its going in the right direction.
http://mufplc.com/pdf/Q2%202012%20Report.pdf
or for lamens like me here is the press release with high lights although i would reocmmend to read the full break down in the link above:
http://mufplc.com/pdf/Q2%202012%20Results%20Press%20Release.pdf
“Chelsea captain John Terry ruled out for up to two months”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/21/john-terry-set-to-miss-chelsea
Haha what a cunt. If only he was more seriously injured.
Thank Goodness Kuz is sorted. Last year has been pathetic and have just a smidge of sympathy for his complaints. A sad chapter now turn the page. Hope Tomaz the best full stop. Decent keeper and hope he can show it now.
We have other fish to fry and don’t need negative story lines clouding the path. Onward then.
Ronaldo 1-0 Real
We need a new thread to cover the new financial statements released today:
3rd quarter financial report from 2011:
revenue increased to £175million in second half of 2011.
an increase of £18.5m over £156.5m (from 2010).
increases in
matchday revenue – increased from £52.4m to £54.5m,
media revenue – increased from £53.7m to £60.9m
commercial revenue, increased from £50.4m to £58.6m
The debt of £439m is down from £508m the previous year.
the decrease in debt is because United are paying to buy back some of the 500m bond refinancing exercise launched in 2010.
total operating costs increased from £96.9m to £110.8m
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2104351/Manchester-United-revenue-175m.html
@FletchTheMan
I think I contributed about $90 for buying the jersey every season lol
One of the most promising Goalkeepers of his generation is being wasted at United.
In a handful of appearances he has proven he is the next United keeper, the heir to VDS.
However he has been overlooked by the signings of Anders Lindegaard and Davd De Gea.
He is one that can match Joe Hart’s ability and at the same Joe Hart was nowhere near his composure yet.
Its a shame we’ll barely see play and he is going to get wasted for 2-3 years then sold for another club to benefit from his talent.
No not Thomasz, I am talking about Ben Amos.
How did SAF & the goalkeeping coach and reserve coach drop the ball here?
Has anyone seen how good Amos is? The boy is the future IMO.
Can’t believe a local/academy lad has lost out on his opportunity. He is ready, pre-season was evidence. People saying its not a missed opportunity or he has plenty of time are wrong !
David De Gea has priority because of £20m.
Then Lindegaard due to experience plus reliability.
It should have been Amos as 2nd choice at a minimum after VDS went.
What happened to developing goal keepers?
Ben Foster was amazing but the lack of game destroyed his potential, its early to say Amos is now half as doomed but if he stays with us as long as Foster did then he will be doomed. Like Foster, when he gets that odd start he could get nervous and develop an inferior mentality.
We should either give Amos game or 2nd choice or loan him out for now. He 21, his time has come.
Its sad how many good players even outside of United are neglected.
These new rules by the PL are non-sense. It should be tighter. More home grown-academy players and a cap on foreign players for all.
@EricCTMTT There’s a good lad!
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1486008_rio-ferdinand-holds-key-to-paul-pogba-future-says-manchester-united-boss-sir-alex-ferguson
Getting mixed messages on the pogba front a few weeks ago he said the boy wants to stay thats obvious and he’s changed agents which is whats taking the time but were hopefull he’ll sign and now he’s saying the boys unsure so fuck knows whats going on?!
More from the Financial report:
Total operating costs increase by 12m to £110.8m.
Player capital expenditure jumped to £47.9m from the purchase of de Gea, Young and Jones
General Capital expenditure rose by £10.4m for stadium improvements and land purchases
Current Cash stands at £50.9m.
Yes Fletch.
http://menmedia.co.uk/oldhamadvertiser/news/business/s/1486035_manchester-united-slash-debt-by-69m-as-revenues-soar-in-last-six-months-of-2011?rss=yes
By By TK.
Is that cash for the transfer kitty? 50.9m. Id say we only need two players a midfielder of high quality obviously and another defender
Staff level rose by near on 100.
Rio hold the key to Paul Pogba staying at United , please if you don’t play for United get your boots and fuck off.
Basically, Glazers spent over £100m on buying back debt since United sold Ronaldo. Is anyone surprised anymore that they use club profits to reduce debts? Nevermind the fact that another £125m in the same period is spent on interest alone. FUCK GLAZERS.
From 598 to 696
That’s 50 million without any sales of players as well.
I know things could have gone different, would people here who ? the Glazzers rather have Roman? Or that type of owner.
For Sir alex’ replacement i think we should get someone like steve keane, mick mccarthy, owen coyle, gus poyet or arsene wenger all top managers.
Or simon grayson would be great.
Hi all – first off, I apologise for going way off topic from the current discussion, but was just going through the numerous articles tagged as “ROM’s Best articles”.
Found one written by STR on RedNev, “Gary Neville: He’s one of us”. Amazing article and brilliant video shared there by Saad I think.
Anyway, enjoy this interview given by Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville. Makes you aware of the impact the club have had on their lives and lifestyle. WOuld have made good viewing for ppl like Ravel Morrison and potentially, Paul Pogba (hope not!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTP-XJ67N14&feature=player_embedded#
Have fun!
Wowser… spanner from Moscow.
@Balls of Steel
That was the one part from the report that frustrated me as well. A sum of around 100mil was investedin buying back 20% of the bonds. Also, despite the fact that players’ wages went down by 200k per week, in general we’ve spent more on wages!
Anyway, with 50mil in the bank, I wouldn’t expect any mahor signings anytime soon..
For the full financial breakdown read my last post the docs are there in my post
Todays Press Release from MU Football PLC :
Financial Results for Red Football Group for the six months ended 31 December 2011
http://mufplc.com/pdf/Q2%202012%20Results%20Press%20Release.pdf
Don’t think anyone is hugely surprised the Ronaldo money went towards paying off part of the debt. That was the suspicion, when Fergie never spent any of it. Have to say though, I’d rather the debt as a whole was cleared, than a big money signing anyway. Just a shame, the Glazers have taken so much cash out the club. It is what it is though. This tends to happen, when you buy a club this way.
Willie,
Glazers Spent/took 250M since June 2009 mostly to service debt. But have purchased 90m in players as well.
Anyone know how much would have been taken by investors when we were a PLC with the club valued as it is. What I can’t stand about the discussion is the lack of any comparison with what projections would look like with previous ownership. Face it, Owners will want a return. Not saying what that should be, but the idea that it should be zero is completely out of touch. I am not in anyway endorsing the current model as it sounds daft, but I just don’t know the projections for what the Irish owners were taking etc.
Would much rather have a new thread to honor the late Duncan Edwards than one discussing the club financials to be honest.
STR Read Cedars 20:17 request. Make it so!
Duncan Edwards Verified United legend
Midfielder
Appearances: 177
Goals: 21
Birth place: Dudley
National team: England
Date of birth: 1 October 1936
Date of death: 21 February 1958, Age: 21
Seasons: 6
Goals per match: 0.12
First appearance: 4 April 1953, aged 16
Last appearance: 5 February 1958, aged 21
MU career: 4.8 years
First start: Saturday 4 April 1953
First goal: Saturday 1 January 1955
Last start: Wednesday 5 February 1958
Last goal Saturday 1 February 1958
FletchTHEMAN – Comparing the net spend with the Glazers and the PLC days would be interesting. For me, it really don’t matter who owns the club. Or what country they come from. I just wanna see the debt disappear. No doubt Fergie has been slightly restricted in what money he can spend. That doesn’t mean he would spend silly money, if he had serious cash at his disposal. One good thing, the toxic loans have been sorted out. We’re still competitive in the market. No one better at the helm, than Sir Alex.
FletchTHEMAN
Cheers mate….. So strong that he fought off death for 15 days after the crash… RIP Duncan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr75rgusNJU
For Cedars. Enjoy! A light that never goes out. The greatest! RIP Big Dunc
Like someone mentioned before, quite spooky that on this very same day many years later Phil Jones was born!
Willie
Thanks my good friend, had that one for ages… Still brings a tear to the eye
MUST said that since Ronaldo’s departure, net transfers totaled $142 million while $356 million had been taken out of the club to cover debt payments and interest.
“What could the club have done with that extra 225 million pounds ($355 million) ? Cheaper tickets for loyal fans, investing massively in the squad and stadium, developing and retaining the best youth players, competing on an equal basis with the very best teams in Europe,” MUST said. “This is the true cost to Manchester United of the Glazers’ ownership.”
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Hold on a minute MUST, who wants that? I’m with Sir Alex & David Gill on this one, they are fantastic owners and we have advanced enormously under the owners. Who would want the luxuries, when you can be broke and dream about all the possibilities instead ! Personally I prefer to dream about a 90,0000 seater stadium,cheaper tickets, better faciities, Scholes + Giggs replacements and the ability to attract the best players and managers to eventually replace Fergie. If everything was perfect like with City & Liverpool financially, then we’d be top of the world, thats a disaster for us because the only way is down from the top innit (or isn’t it).
Who cares, what can we do? We are just pathetic people that love a club that uses its power to make Broke Grandaddy even richer. Its best to be apathetic, if we stop funding the club, it will die, so we must continue to put our £’s into their pockets. Its win / win for our great owners.
Thanks David Gill, you held your ground against our sale & now we’re thriving without you.
Sir Alex – Nice of you to put your job security ahead of the future of the club.
It is dog eat dog after all. We are the Chihuahua getting fucked doggystyle by the Mastiff.
What I would give for an article by Sir Giles right now on Edwards….. MG wrote a great post on the Fergie thread in case anyone is interested. Really heart felt and very emotional
Red Nation
You say’ Sir Alex – Nice of you to put your job security ahead of the future of the club’
Were those your words or were you still quoting MUST? Either way who ever said such words is silly and sorry to say pathetic as well.
Always admired lavezzi play. Looks the ideal united player due to his technical ability, dynamism and sheer determination but one can dream, one can dream lol.
Evening you Devil you.
Earl of Sandwich! What a breath of fresh air you are
Chelsea are getting battered here. oh dear.
s it a crime to use profits to clear debt? I’m pretty sure many homeowners do that to clear their morgages sooner. Shame Utd have to do it but I’d rather the Glazers than some oil billionare who interferes with the Managers running of the team affairs. Damn hang on we could have had Torres at a 50 million pound snip. Bloody Glazers.
Red Nation
90,000 stadium? Are you so sure Utd would fill it against the likes of Stoke WBA and Wigan etc. I’m totally certain we’d only fill it for Scouse, Shitty, Arse, Chelsea and maybe Spurs even then I can’t see the club dropping prices. Also theres only south stand that hasn’t been developed because of the residential area and the railway, surly you don’t want another tier 3 its awful up there compaired to the other areas. The clubs facilities are fine maybe over priced but most sporting venues are.
Looks like its bye bye Mr Hairdo then
Cedars. Just watching Chelsea get battered. Great 3rd goal.
Happy Pancake day all you Tossers out there.
James
We could have had Carroll, Downing and Henderson!!
Oh Cavani!
M19ke
Yeh and the owners could make SAF look a prat by insisting Kettleneck comes back and plays after he’d said ‘He’ll never play for this club again’
Best way forward for OT?
Demolish the East Stand and turn it into a museum to honor the silence, then tear out the seats from the Stretty and get those nutters standing and singing their hearts out. Bring the capacity back down to 43000 or so, that should do it
Demolish East stand? You’d take away the heart and noise. All the suit wearing Stretford enders would have to go back to actually wearing team colours on matchday.
James
Haha…. To be honest I am just trying to use humor to get my mind of the grief I have been feeling on Edwards….
By the way does anyone remember the German pop star from the 80′s her name is Sandra? Had a huge crush on her!
Rentboys done again! AVB out, wafa in!
England in danger of having no teams in the Ch.League quarters for the first time since 96.
Can’t wait to hear AVB’s post match comments? “Everything was going well, until I realized I started with Luiz in defense”
I say once again, how did those cunts put 3 past us?!
I willing to bet he’ll fix his hair 4 times during the interview.
I wonder how soon before Cavani wears the blue of a different team. They’ve had their sights set on him and they can afford him.
Mike
They actually only put one past us, we took care of the other two
Evening lads, and lassies………..
Kettleneck has apologised to Mankini…………
They’ll try anything to beat us to the league title!
Costas
Haha, I would put money down on five times!
Costas
Old playmobil mop!
Cedars
Yeah we did but how did we let em!! Aaaarrrggghhh !!
It was a great atmosphere at the Sao Paolo
I’d love Cavani at United.(Pipe dream)
Mike
Its written in the books mate, its how it is meant to be…… We will go to shitlands and win the league
Collyhurst
What a sorry excuse of a club! Id rather win fuck all and show a bit if respect for the club and the badge than ever let a bloke like Tevez pull the shirt back on. Like you say, they’re fucking desperate. Just another stunt that will tarnish their reputation as a shallow soulless outfit. Cunt will piss some players off in that dressing room, especially those dropped for him. Let’s all laugh at city!!!!
Collyhurst Red
I cannot even begin to comprehend if that was a United player with all them antics and what would Sir Alex do in such a situation.
OK Cedars here goes. Its cheery up time.
Police cordoned off Liverpool City Centre this morning when a suspicious object was discovered in a car.
It later turned out to be a tax disc.
A scouser walked into the local job centre, marched straight up to the Counter and said ‘Hi, I’m looking for a job’.
The man behind the counter replied ‘Your timing is amazing. We’ve just got one in from a very wealthy man who wants a chauffeur/bodyguard for his nymphomaniac twin daughters. You’ll have to drive around in a big black Mercedes and wear the uniform provided. The hours are a bit long but the meals are provided. You also have to escort the young ladies on their overseas holidays. The Salary package is £200,000 a year’.
The Scouser said ‘You’re bullshitting me!’
The man behind the counter said ‘Well you started it!’
James
One of the best scouse jokes I have read in ages! Fucking epic mate
Mike, Cedars………..
I agree entirely, no class at all, might be wrong but I think they are beginning to be even more despised than Chelski were/are (and look what a joke they are now!)
You can’t help but laugh
Well lets see if he’s booed by the fans when he returns Just like they booed his name at OT. Posnan Hipocrite pricks the lot of them.
Gotta love the job dodging dipper jokes. Right, thats me done, off to me pit. These 12 hour days are doing me in. Sweet dreams RoM, just think, when you wake up we’ll be a day closer to number 20!
My 3 old angel already refers to them as shitty….. Taught her well… I just say who are City and she replies shitty!
Sweet dreams Mike
This sounds too good to be true:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2104001/Rafa-Benitez-replace-Andre-Villas-Boas-Chelsea.html
Seems Willie was not joking! If this comes off it will be comedy gold of the highest order
Cedars, Kenny D came up on my tv the other day and my little girl just burst out with ” Oh no it’s Queer Kenny”. Thiswas whilst my ma was around, she wanted to laugh deep down but just had to show her whole hearted diplomacy as a fellow nursery teacher. Was piss funny though. Teach em young. Have ti tell them to ease of the chants I’m teaching them at times
Ha Ha Cedars and Brigadier.
I’ve taught my 4 year old Niece. In your Liverpool slums. Funny as fuck when she hears Liverpool and starts singing it.
Right thats me done. Off to bed.
Keep Utd. 20
Please bring the fact man back!
Wafa!
Brigadier19 and Cedars:
You are class act parents! Keep up the good work!
Chelsea’s problems go back to sacking a proven winner in Don Carlo. Then replacing him with a young manager barely out of nappies, in terms of management. Crazy decision by Roman the Ruskie!
Rafa at Chelsea makes sense:
- Abramovich is the expert on getting managers fired and them paying them with very generous compensation packages. It already happened with Mourinho, Scolari and Ancelotti.
- Benithez on the other hand, is renowned for getting fired due to being utter dogshit and then also getting compensation packages. He’s the only manager in history that’s managed to do this twice in less than a year.
They are a perfect match these two.
Brigadier19
Luckily my mum’s English is not up to speed so I get away with murder! haha
NIght all and RIP Duncan Edwards
Can’t see it Costas. Hope it happen though!
Talking about facts!! 
@willie
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All the best to Kuz, I can understand his frustration, I think SAF just kept him on as De Gea and Lindegrad were untested. He is getting on and really does need to play somewhere. He did a good service and gave it his best shot but it was not good enough. Hang loose bro.
I don’t know how people can solely blame AVB for their current debacle. There is clearly a clique in that squad that control chelsea. Lumpard, drogba, terry and add cole to that.
Four players with huge egos, they’ve all seen the arrival and departure of managers. Now they all can’t even put in the performances anymore but yet still demand starting berths. Someone has to stand up to those twats and maybe that’s what AVB is trying to implement. Whether they respect him, i’m not sure but he isn’t the only one at fault even though he gives the impression of an arrogant person in his press conferences.
I noticed this agenda in the english media to get rid of anyone that can speak perfect english. I wonder if these same ignorants would be fluent at other languages.
Anyway, personally i don’t care about chelsea or any rivals And if they’re in disarray then so be it. United have issues too that i’d rather focus on.
That’s alot of words for someone who doesn’t care.
@ Samuel – one thing to note, much as I am not a Terry fan, he is a real leader for Chelsea on the field and probably has more influence on their game than AVB. He is a poor mans Pep for Barcelona when Pep was playing.
AVB is 34 – he was never going to get respect in the way an older more estalished manager would and some of their senior players may in fact be better at knowing what works for the team, they are not fools and they know each other and their opponents better than he does. In fairness to Chelsea the team has performed for good managers – Jose and Ancelotti. Roman was stupid to get rid of Ancelotti. Selling Alex was stupid.
Don’t forget also that SAF had huge tough characters in Keane, Cantona, Ince, Robson, Hughes – he handled them and he was younger then – all through his career SAF has handled tough players, difficult players, talented players. AVB can’t. He also talks to much about the inside workings of the Club and what the players think. He needs to shut up talking to the press and just focus on trying to earn some respect. Part of a managers job – see Moyes and new old coach at Sunderland – is to handle players on all levels that’s why it’s managing, not coaching.
I think Pep will join Chelsea as coach in the summer. He is out of contract in summer and has refused to sign a new one and I believe he is interested in coaching in the EPL.
I believe Roman will move for Pep in summer. He likes the way Barca play and Pep has achieved more than AVB and would command respect but also be a young manager who could grow with the job and who would probably quite like London as a place to live. He would also help develop their youth policy. If I was Roman it would be a no-brainer.
NBIRedOnion. Reasonable argument but will Roman be patient with Pep in case things don’t go as planned? I don’t think so because the way I see it, Roman’s policy seems to be “get me the CL or you are out”.
Anyone with an ounce of sense (and I trust Pep to have more than that) will refuse to join that outfit ruled by the mad russian mafiosi and his caporegime cllc
A good move for him
off-topic: Just read that Nani will be offered a 27m 4-yr deal soon. However I believe Valencia should have been the recipient of such a deal
Tony just signed a new deal this summer.