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League Table Suggests This Is Our Best Ever Team

Manchester United are currently on 55 points after 22 games which is better than any team has ever managed since the introduction of three points for a win in the 1981-1982 season.

The highest total an English team had managed before this season was United in 06-07, when Cristiano Ronaldo started to blossom in to a world class player, and United amassed 54 points.

They say the table doesn’t lie, so does this mean that our current team is the best ever?

Whilst not knocking our achievements this year, I don’t think there’s any way you could argue our starting XI is better now than it was in 93-94/95-96/98-99/07-08. What has changed though is how high the standards are and how much more competitive the league is.

Still, this current team certainly deserve praise for accumulating 55 points, particularly when you consider the injury problems we’ve suffered.






 

108 Comments

  1. Costas says:

    No doubt they deserve credit. Hopefully we will maintain this level of consistency. It’s not always the case. In 03-04 we had 50 points after 20 games but only managed 25 in the remaining 18.

  2. wayne says:

    Whether or not this is Utd’s best team doesn’t matter to me what it does put to bed is all the trolls and plastics saying this team is shit just shows these people come on Rom for one thing and one thing only,not fans just cunts
    Outscoring teams might not be everybody’s cup of tea i said before the season started the signing of RVP sent a statement that Utd where going to go for it and not play scared like last year and that’s exactly the way the season has unfolded.
    King Eric mentioned it and i totally agree haven’t seen Sir Alex this fired up in years,believe he blames himself for the team tactics City away last season and vowed he’ll never go anywhere not to lose when a win would’ve meant a Utd title
    Another thing this is a team playing very entertaining football as far as i’m concerned long may it continue

  3. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Ha, just discussing this article on the last thread….. Good spot Scott.

    Good pro United article which puts it all out there, the good and the bad.

    Good:
    ManUtd are averaging 2.5 points /match in EPL play.
    This is a better points return than any other of United 19 league title seasons, even the treble and double winning teams….
    Also better then some of the all time most famous ever sides in english football if you are truely an ABU, (Shankly, Clough, Unbeatables).
    We are not as good as Mourinhos 04-05 side after 22 games, but could loose 4 games and still beat his point total at the end of the season.

    Bad:
    After conceding 29 goals, we are on course to concede more goals than our 1999-2000 side, which gave up 45 league goals. But STILL won the league.

    We’re ManUtd! We do as we like! :cool: Erm, well not really ;)

  4. mara says:

    We conceded so manny goals and we have best point score ever..strane..but table and number of pionts doesnt lie…

  5. FletchTHEMAN says:

    PS As I pointed out a couple of days ago. We need to keep up our output while we can. Late in the season we might need to coast a bit if we are still in FACup and CL. If we stay in the Cup after tomorrow we will have to shoe horn in one other game this month and games will be fast and furious.

    Still, good on the lads. Get in United!

  6. BayoRed says:

    The league table certainly doesnt lie and this EPL is a very copmetitive league. I rate it better than La Liga while appreciating that la liga has two world class teams. Im also sick of how we win week in week out and are still called not a good enough United side. And this “not a good enough united side” has stuck with us for the past 20 months even while we lost the title on goal difference and that through a lapse in concentration at Everton.
    Am loving our squad and the many heartstopping moments when they grab the winner on 93 minutes.

  7. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Scott: Correction to your post I think. The second sentence should read

    “The highest total [a United] team had managed before this season was United in 06-07,”

    The article points out that 4 previous teams have beaten Uniteds points and record after 22 games:

    …………………………………won…drew…Lost…..points after 22
    Chelsea…….2005-06…….20…….1…….1…………..61
    Spurs………..1960-61…….19…….2…….1…………..59
    Preston……..1888-89…….18…….4…….0…………..58
    Sunderland..1891-92…….19…….0…….3…………..58
    Man United…2012-13……18…….3…….3…………..55

    Reading between the lines, it is clear that every team drops points. Eyes open and onwards!

  8. rnicolas says:

    I don’t think this is a good comparison, since in 07-08 the team might have played tougher opposition games, or more away games, etc…
    This can be labeled as the best number of points United have amassed after 22 games, but definitely cannot be used to compare teams.
    A more reasonable comparison might be performed after all 38 games have ended?

  9. Dromarared says:

    Depends on the definition of side. I would concede mthat this is probably not our best everstarting 11 but I would suggest that perhaps it is our strongest 25 ever. nowadays it is 25 and not 11 that wins things because there are so many very competitive matches.

  10. United Till I Die says:

    This is the reaction to losing last year. If that didn’t fire up our entire Squad nothing would. Carry that winning mentality into Europe lads!

  11. Costas says:

    Fergie said that Vidic is ok and Young will miss the next 2 games. Nothing serious thankfully.Rooney and Nani should feature tomorrow.

  12. kanchelskis says:

    @rnicolas

    Good point in principle, but look at the places we’ve been this season – Etihad, Goodison, Stamford Bridge, Anfield

    I honestly think this weekend is our last seriously tough away fixture (Emirates is borderline)

  13. Dan says:

    The fact that the title was won in the 96-97 season with just 75 points is crazy.

  14. JIXIE says:

    Don’t get me wrong. I believe this is the most talented modern day United team but I think there is a collective laziness about the team. Before you call for my head…..I see this team as that brilliant student who feels he doesn’t have to work too hard to do well. Hence whenever they go a goal down, the shock produces the most vigorous response. Compare this with some of the less gifted but successful teams and you may agree. This may be all BS but I’ve been thinking this even before I saw these stats. Come on two zero!!!!!

  15. FletchTHEMAN says:

    SAF Presser: Vidic has a knock to head (concussion) but no leg issue. Evans could feature v Spurs. Young will return next week

    Great news about Vidic!!!
    http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/Jan/sir-alex-ferguson-delivers-team-news-for-west-ham-replay.aspx

  16. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Costas; Cheers mate just saw you had some of the news as well.

    Really chuffed about Vidic. Very worried about the way he came down. Evans back at the weekend as well. Good times… Ha!

  17. kanchelskis says:

    @JIXIE

    That’s a very good shout. There’s still that spectre of complacency, which adds to the feeling this season is far from over.

    Even in games when we’ve been miles head of our opponents (and there have been many), we’ve only dished out one actual battering this season (4-0 vs Wigan).

    Need to maintain intensity for 90 minutes more often, and sharpen the cutting edge in front of goal, if we’re to make sure of the title.

    To be honest, lovely goals though they would have been, if RVP had just hammered the ball, rather than attempting those two elaborate flicks, we would’ve killed off the game vs Liverpool as well. Our failure to do so only didn’t cost us cos of Sturridge’s rush of blood to the head.

  18. BayoRed says:

    @Kalchelskis, you are absolutely right about the RvP flicks esp the forst one that led to Kagawa colliding with Reina. RvP could have just hit that hard. It lingered long enough in front of him,

  19. kanchelskis says:

    If there’s any downside to RVP (I know!) it’s that he can be too much of an artist. Just hit it, man!

  20. wayne says:

    The only reason Kagawa collided with Reina he was shoved blatant penalty,Rafa’s pass was a bit behind him so don’t think RVP was in a position to blast it home

  21. kanchelskis says:

    @wayne

    Yeh, not so much that one. But the one towards the end at 2-1. He had time, I think, to adjust and put his foot through it.

  22. 207egend says:

    No doubt about it SAF has got a renewed fire in his belly,just proves after last years critics saying that fergie and united were decending with no return and that shitty were manchesters new numero uno , but as we can see that’s just been the catalyst for the current emerging team! Also another fundamental that a few of you that have pointed out is that we have been to nearly all of our most challanging destantions and have mounted our best points tally out of the19 before, so all the doubters can carry on because most of our new generation of youth are now blossoming beautifully, I think the future is looking quite prosperous, and if we can keep turning CR7s head enough to being him back, then I think we can possibly mention the possibillity of a treble again

  23. BayoRed says:

    Anyway its 3 points and we have a great squad. Good thing that it seems Captain and Young are going to be fine. If we could maintain our momentum to the CL clashes we would be very confident.

  24. Sparkz says:

    @Wayne – Bang on. Fergie seems fully intent on scoring as many as possible this season. Need to tighten up for Europe, but it’s bloody exciting to watch.

    I do agree with Jixie though, that we need to kill teams off . I dunno if it’s complacency, but there’s been a fair few occasions where a potential battering has turned into a nervy last 15 minutes. Liverpool was a prime. Think how much better our goal difference could have been if we’d taken our chances.

  25. 207egend says:

    We do need a proper replacment for scholes though, maybe 1addition to the defence, Fabio looks like he’s putting performances together, plus I think we have seen the worst of our defensive injuries out the way, and son real talent out on loan, Keane, wooton

  26. fergie is the boss says:

    kanchelskis- – I do not think we could have done any better against liverpool, we should have gotten a penalty, the fullback gets sent off, RVP makes it 2 0, we make it 3 0 second half, and its game over. My concern is? we are getting awfully bad luck with officials since the Chelsea win,

  27. Sparkz says:

    Also, it’s unfair to compare this side to the teams of 94, 99 or 2008. Because those were teams in their prime, teams that had been through the transition.

    This current team is still in transition….so a better comparison would be, for example, the teams of 1996 or 2005 etc. Teams that were also still developing.

  28. 207egend says:

    Shit wrong blog

  29. kanchelskis says:

    @fitb

    You’re right about officials since the Chelsea game. Reading away, City away, L’pool at home, all had poor decisions which could’ve cost us points. You could even point to Swansea’s equaliser at the Liberty – which of course did cost us points.

  30. 207egend says:

    Not liking the speculation bout little pea and a Madrid, plus were supposedly loathing to offers, just hope he follows in olds footsteps, special type of player, one with such leathal instinct

  31. 207egend says:

    Oles

  32. Proverb says:

    Wow another great news
    SAF: “Actually, Vida’s knee is okay. He had a little bit of concussion but he’s okay and fine. He trained yesterday and was good. Wayne rooney and Nani will features against West ham on wednesday.”
    Things getting better, aren’t they
    Let’s get ready for the virus lads

  33. Proverb says:

    Good day ROM
    Match day tomorrow, let’s keep the possibility of a treble alive, let’s hammer them fucking hammers

  34. kanchelskis says:

    Oh, fuck off. Kompany’s red has been rescinded. Imagine for one second that that was Rooney or Ferdinand.

  35. wayne says:

    Hernandez isn’t going anywhere he gets it

    http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_0_18336_-.html

  36. 207egend says:

    Assholes, remember his red against us very similar, 3 match ban

  37. domunited says:

    My question would be: how many additional games were being played outside of league play? There’s FA Cup, League Cup, Champions League (including qualifiers), maybe the Club World Championship or whatever, lest we forget World Cup or Euro qualifiers… oh yeah, and international friendlies… I think a lot of energy gets spent on games outside of the 38, and these extra games play a huge part of how fresh the squad is and the chances of getting injured.

    With the easy CL group win, League Cup loss, lack of internationals… it just seems like we’re not complaining as much this year about how many games our players have to compete in.

  38. Sparkz says:

    Second half of last season we barely had any extra games. Early knock outs in the Champions League and the FA Cup.

    As far as I’m concerned, the more games the better, particularly as I think our squad has good depth this year (fingers crossed now lol!)

  39. 207egend says:

    Nice Wayne, I hate to see him leave, after watching ole through his career and now little pea his, I see so many fatastic resembleces it unreal, I never thought is ever see another ole, but its happened an we need to hold on to him, I mean with all the speculation about Robert Lewandowski there’s gunna be even less game time availbe, such I can’t see happening, so who losses out

  40. 207egend says:

    I mean it would be a fantastic sinning do get me wrong

  41. fergie is the boss says:

    kanchelskis – yea that is why I said, bad officials have gone against us since the chelsea win, when you think about it, shitty game, young makes it 3 0 againmst shitty, we go on to win 4 or 5 0 probably, swansea game, I ould see us going 2 0 ahead, killing the game off, reading game same thing, liverpool game if they were fair we would have beaten liverpool 3 or 4 0. So its not so much for me, we are not being ruthless enough, when officials have a bad game, it will change the pattern of the game. Especially swansea, shitty an liverpool. I stand by the point, lierpool should have been down to 8 men, 10 men with united going 2 0, 3 0 with livepool own to 8 men

  42. phillyred says:

    Or the worst the league has ever been.

  43. fergie is the boss says:

    has for the Swansea game again, Swansea were so lucky, how RVP never got a free kick, is beyond me, with it being 1 0 if we got the free kick, I could see us winning 2 or 3 0, with Swansea pushing on, our threat on the counter is easily. So PPL, be relieved that the only reason why games like shitty Liverpool an reading were so close. was because of bad officials. We are overdue things going our way, and spurs is a perfect game to put that right

  44. kanchelskis says:

    @fitb

    Haha yeh, there’s never a funnier team to get decisions going your way against than Spurs.

    That Nani goal when Heurelho Gormless rolled the ball out to him. Endless lolz.

  45. wayne says:

    The premier league is getting stronger bigger tv rights means even the lower clubs can invest in new players unlike La Liga were Barca and Real get the lions share of tv and the other teams are going broke.With the capability of reaching 720 million homes world wide and a 3 billion TV contract kicking in next year will just continue to go from strength to strength maintaining it as the most watched and competitive

  46. WeAreUnited says:

    @wayne

    I think Chicha will stay with us for a very long time, I only think that the guy needs more recognition and I don’t mean he doesn’t get it, but muchmuch MORE:

    People say he’s a supersub when stats tells you he has scored moe when he has startedd. The lad needs to be played more, 11 goals in the last 13 and not counting the Mexico games.

    And still he is used as a sub if he is. He shiens in big games, he shiens in small games in every game. Give him more recognition. I know it’s a team sport, but those rumours pisses me off.

    he is staying and is our second best striker at the moment after RVP. he has also raised his game, he takes players, goes past them, assists goals, in his last game where he started 2+1. AMAZING. he takes his chances, no matter is it 15 or 90 minutes.

    His last season wasn’t good, and this season started slowly and everyone writed him off when RVP came, and look at what he does, raises his game, scores for fun, and hi all aroung game is exellent for his standars. He is our Inzaghi and look at ho inzaghi was treated at ACMilan, with respect.

    This guy will become a legend if and when he stays with us longer, but he needs recognition.

    peace.

  47. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Brilliant news on vidic, i could imagine a lot of people were worried. He looked near to his best against pool, would have been a blow if he was sidelined but this is uplifting no doubt.

  48. 207egend says:

    La liga sides are struuglung big time because of the Spanish economy, they’ll need to be carefull because I can I see it getting alot worse

  49. 207egend says:

    Struggling lol

  50. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Didn’t know being too much of an artist can be a negative. Skill is to be encouraged and i don’t see van persie turning into a one dimensional fucker anytime soon. It’s the dutch way, make art with the ball.

  51. wayne says:

    207 that and the tv rights are slanted in favor of the big two, have to have balanced distribution to make a league healthy.NFL is proof of that doesn’t matter how big or small a club is everything is put into the pot and divided up equally its the most profitable league in the world and to buy any club costs a small fortune.

  52. United Till I Die says:

    Surprise Surprise. That Kompany red card was never going to stick. It should’ve been a ban imo but the outcry by the TV pundits after the match was too much. They wouldn’t shut up, and we all know how much a “media frenzy” can direct the thinking at the FA.

    I thought the idea was an excessive challenge, or a challenge where the player isn’t in full control of their lunge, should be a straight red REGARDLESS of whether its one footed or two? It looked like a red when I was watching the match but what do I know.

    But like Paddy said, we shouldn’t be concentrating too much on City. I must admit, at times last season I was wishing for them to pick up knocks and cards every single game, but our Squad is so good we really don’t have to rely on them having bad luck.

    So what if Kompany remains available? We’re still in the driving seat aren’t we? Thats the attitude we need to have, and based on what Evra said recently I hope the Squad are thinking the exact same way.

  53. kanchelskis says:

    @samuel

    The penalty vs Southampton? The late flick vs Liverpool? Both indulgences that could – on a worse day – have cost points.

    (VERY much playing devil’s advocate here, you understand)

  54. WeAreUnited says:

    I know it’s only Daily star and a rumour, but wouldn’t be surprised.

    “The Daily Star claims that David De Gea is the no.1 target on Barcelona’s shortlist of top European goalkeepers they would like to sign.”

    what is funny o nthis that, the best team in the world at the moment, Barcelona would really go for our goalkeeper while the ABU pundits are bashing oru goalkeeper.

    I find itu funny.

  55. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Kanchelskis – fair enough but then again, in other instances, van persie’s flick could win a game. Football is all about risks, you won’t know if you will gain if you do not try, this is the way van persie has been taught. I agree that the penalty, at that moment of losing in a game wasn’t warranted, you need smash those in the net and i hope he’s learnt from that, it pays testament to his character that he went on to have a very clinical game but generally, van persie is ruthless in front of goal and pulls the hammer with either foot.

  56. Dela says:

    For a few years now I’ve felt that we have the guts of a world beating team, but always for one reason or another our challenge to the world has faltered a bit… more often than not injury. There’s no doubting, for example, that Tom Cleverley and Anderson had wonderful talent, yet both players would be lightyears ahead by now if their injury woes had stayed away. We have a lot of really talented and young players in our squad and around the club, we just need it to click now.

  57. dazbomber says:

    Company has got off with his sending off. I think the FA listen to Talk Sport on Monday morning and go with what they think.Bunch of wankers

  58. Voice of Reason says:

    Dont forget Newcastle at home from the list of fucked up reffing

  59. Diego says:

    …Aaaaand of course sometimes you don’t have time to set up your body in a way that you could hit it and you have to just flick it towards goal.

  60. WeAreUnited says:

    @dela

    you’re righ on that

    in fact last year when tom and jerry started we were flying.

    Then Ando got injured and later clevs, adn carrick didn’t shine that much with scholes, even though scholes was immense last season. he was one of the reasons we did well.

    But IF ando and clevs didn’t pick their injuries, I really wonder how well we would have done last season.
    This season the proof is there, carrick and clevs is the ideal combo, add ando and i’ts great. let’s hope it stays like this.

  61. fergie is the boss says:

    kanchelskis – sorry about the spelling, my keyboard is not very good, see another one, but fergie made a huge error playing that many 30 something year old’s in one team. and he has learnt from that. So it is a concern officials are really screwing us over, I eally hope we put the media darlings spurs to the sword sunday

  62. Dave Malaysia says:

    Feeling relieved and much better now.

    Vidic is ok and avaliable.

    Rooney and Nani looking sharp in training , will be starting Wednesdays game.

    Jonny Ready for Sunday.

    Ashley next week.

    Anderson been in training for weeks.

    Thank God.

  63. United Till I Die says:

    @Dave Malaysia – I was wondering if we’d see Nani tomorrow. Seeing Anderson warming up with the lads on Sunday brought a smile to my face so hopefully he’ll start if he’s ready. Now that Captain Vida is back, those two are the last senior lads to return from long absences, and they’ll need game time to be in contention for Madrid.

    Rooney’s family have had a difficult time recently, but I’d expect him to be back to his best soon enough, hopefully starting alongside Hernandez tomorrow.

  64. United Till I Die says:

    Just watching Madrid v Valencia, and Valencia are stopping them from creating anything worthwhile by defending tight. Even when a bit of Ronaldo magic finds space for another white shirt, Valencia’s defenders have already read the danger and cut out the pass. Thats the best way to play Madrid, as they soon lose heart when they’re constantly being tackled and things don’t go their way. 18 point gap in La Liga? What a joke!

    Back to Champions League – as long as our lads are switched on (RAFA!) we should be able to snuff out any danger. We just need to concentrate on taking our chances when they present themselves, and not let too many opportunities pass us by. Something tells me the last 15 minutes of that game are gonna be heart-attack inducing. I can’t wait.

    As I type Madrid have scored on the break and it took about 3 passes. The thing is, seconds before that Valencia created a clear shot on goal from inside the 6 yard box and probably should’ve scored. As long as we take our opportunities and don’t switch off, we’ve got a good chance of going through. If Valencia buried that shot Madrid would probably be dropping more points today.

    BTW where is Willierednut?

    I’d like to take this opportunity to say MODRIC IS CRAP MATE!!! :lol:

  65. WeAreUnited says:

    A bit off topic maybe, but watch this, oh the memories.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w0xT5w3EYE

    Let’s look at Chicharito’s first season, at the age of 22 the lad helped us with Berba and Nani win us the 19th tittle.

    At the age of 24 he has established himself more than a goalscorer, these guys are remembered.

    Amazing to have so good strikers in our team. Let’s enjoy.

  66. 207egend says:

    Wayne- totally agree, son of the tax scandals Real M have got away with and then the smaller local clubs being caught up in turmoil, unhealthy and I don’t like it, im glad we have got it right over here though I hate to say it the Americans did lead the way with example and we’ve benifited from a simmilar approach, bout time we caught up in the technical side of the game now

  67. markga says:

    on sky sports city got kompanys red card overturned

  68. Daniel88 says:

    The standard of the Premier League is terrible at the moment.

    I rate Cleverley but he does not have the flair to be an attacking central midfielder in a midfield two at United. The injury last season was a disaster obvious reasons it raised expectations so high. This has happened with Wilshere and Vermaelen before him at Arsenal.

    For that reason I think Carrick and Anderson is the best combination personally.

    More interestingly though the three of them together their styles of play resembles Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta but nowhere near as good … AND IT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF !!!.

    Its with Carrick as (Busquets) the holder, Cleverley as (Xavi) the passer who controls the tempo and Anderson as (Iniesta) who penetrates from midfield.

    I would love to see all three against Real Madrid in Spain.

  69. trollhunter says:

    Sir Alex at the QPR game tonight

  70. 207egend says:

    And also regarding little pea, 3rd generation very rare in it self and breeds instinct. I think he is copleteley recognised by fans but his immense attitude may cost him a game here or there, I believe the likes of Rooney and RVP wouldnt be as forgiving when missing as many games on the back of match winnig performances . He will be very fresh for Europe though

  71. 207egend says:

    I think cleverly has lots of flair and its only going to get better, carrocks having possibly the season of his career, and Ando really needs to keep fit, but I like the look of them 3

  72. UnitedFaithful says:

    Despite our wingers not performing well added with the fact that we have leaked goals the league table reflects more than I could have wished for.Yes this united team is well known for their attacking prowess but we haven’t had our wingers on song yet.

  73. dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:

    I’m gonna lose it if we sign Zaha for anything more than 7 million pounds. If his price is 12 million pounds let him go to Arsenal. I don’t even get why we’re in for this bloke anyways. Jeez.

  74. WeAreUnited says:

    http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/Jan/sir-alex-ferguson-rooney-and-nani-looking-good.aspx

    “Both [Rooney and Nani] will play,” confirmed the boss to MUTV. “Both are fit.

    “[There's] Chicha and Antonio, we’ve got a strong squad, you know. There won’t be many changes really. Wayne coming back is good news. He’s been training for a week and looking good. As for Nani, he came back from his spell abroad [having a break in Dubai] and is really looking very good. So I’m fine and will play a strong team.”

    Strange to see Valencia, Rooney and Nani together at the pitch, it has bee na WHILE and I bet Ando also. It’s like 2010-2011 all over again. Can’t wait.

  75. gazzer says:

    Just read the article on chicharito. I love the way he called him wazza – I’d give good money to see him try to explain that back to his friends in mexico!

  76. Mr C says:

    Not really bothered about stats or whether this is or isn’t the best ever United outfit (it aint btw). I just want us to win stuff and keep winning the attractive United way. Anyone else notice how Liverpool haven’t won the league since they banned the back pass to keepers…

    On another matter I see media pressure and trying to keep things competitive at the top of the league have had their sway at the FA.

    What’s the point of the authorities letting Kompany off on the basis of video technology AFTER the match while refusing to deploy video technology during games? FA= clueless ABU tossers.

  77. bRed says:

    Why was Nani on a break in Dubai in the first place? I thought he was out injured?

  78. tom c says:

    ^he was, and seemed mentally burned out as well. we’ll see how he returns, Sir Alex’s a genius at man-management, after all.

  79. wayne says:

    Nani mentally burned out LOL fuck me he makes 90k a week and played what 4 full games all year,give me a fucking break

  80. fergie is the boss says:

    Lol got to laugh, pl is awful, yea go look at la liga, who spend a billion since 2009, buy ronaldo and they can only scrap one la liga title, while failing to even add compititon. If shitty were 7 pts. Clear, we would hear idiots like dani saying how good shitty r and the pl, but united r 7 pts clear, the pl is so bad, and we r not even playing well 2 deserve 2 win it, pathetic

  81. Sonneveld says:

    As happy as I am about the new Carrick-Cleverly partnership in midfield. Am I the only one who thinks that if Anderson becomes fit again, our best midfield would be him and Carrick. I still rate him higher than Cleverly. I cant really remember those two playing together but I think it would work well.

  82. sam says:

    In the past two seasons, if Rooney was out before a big game, the doomsday merchants in the media will e out in full force telling how we are so inept without him and his flair. Not anymore – the addition of kagawa and robin, the improvement of welbeck, Hernandez and the better management of cleverly and ando has given us so much depth in the attacking third and long may it continue.

  83. sam says:

    Our squad is the envy of the league and is a couple of players away from truly being great. Sir Alex is always a step ahead isn’t he? What a legend he is. None of the others can even come close. In a couple of years our midfield will probably be the envy of Europe. Nothing goes unnoticed with him, and his knowledge of the game is second to none. He always stays relevant. In the future, when we are old – our grandkids will ask us about this man who seemed so invincible, so stately and so daring. Keep those anecdotes ready boys, some of you’ll don’t know how lucky we are.

  84. bRed says:

    Which is why, I asked why Nani was given a break in Dubai. Seems like there was something going on behind the scenes. This would really sound very cliche, but if Nani can sort his head / contract out, it would be like a new signing. And a great one at that.

  85. CR9 says:

    I think this post forget to mantion chelsea in 2006 had 61 points after 22 games, led by mourinho at that time :P

  86. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Morning reds,
    You non tech savy lot should prepare yourself for the new wave of social media that’s about to confront us. Rio just got a “Bubbly” account! :roll:

    http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/business/s/1598222_rio-signs-up-to-bubbly

  87. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Also, Happy Birthday to the FA! 150 years old today.
    Birth? of organized footy as we know it.

    Hoping United celebrate with a 20th.
    Not being greedy, but a 4th an 12th wouldn’t be amis.

    Then we can toast it all with a 5th :cool:

  88. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Speaking of the FA’s 150th. There is a nice interview with Pep Guardiola, wishing the FA a happy 150th birthday and reminiscing about his interest in England, and maybe a job here.

    Hope Pep does come to England. Best coaches should come and try their methods.
    Kind of think he won’t come to United, but respect him alot just the same.

    See the interview here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIULj6DLXM

  89. BayoRed says:

    Acoording to yesterday’s Sun Newspaper, we sign Zaha today!

  90. lordrt says:

    @BayoRed:
    is he worth the hype? as for the sun well dont really trust them
    what we really need is a defender and a classy midfielder to help the team go all the way to the title

  91. BayoRed says:

    I dont know! But from what Ive read he shows potential and we are known for taking risks on potential. And I think he will be signed for less than the 12M thats being thrown around. He is also a good age.

  92. FletchTHEMAN says:

    What I don’t get at all is the price differential we pay, vs what we get.
    Chatter is that Zaha (IF any of it is true) comes for 12m plus incentives that could raise to 17.
    Almost in the same breath, we hear of bids of players like Javier for 14m by Atletico.
    How is it posible that Hernadez isn’t in the 22-25M range if Zaha is 12-17?

    I think it is all crap talk tbh. People say the Glazers know about money? They need to sort out the prices we get for players. Gibson went to Everton for 3m and is starting every week. Give me a break!

  93. dazbomber says:

    It’s not potential with Zahra he’s doing it week in week out .He ran rings round US last season the real deal

  94. DreadedRed says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzaha … boring!

  95. DreadedRed says:

    “The replay with West Ham is quickly followed by a trip to Spurs and then hopefully we’ll have a fourth round tie against either Fulham or Blackpool to give us another two-game week before another busy week with fixtures against Southampton and Fulham. We have plenty of action coming up that I hope you will enjoy.”

    Same old, same old. Sir Alex relishing a busy schedule as we compete on multiple fronts.

    Some cunts are in for a rude awakening when their wish for a SAF-less United materializes.

  96. DreadedRed says:

    Cleverley on the tie at Upton Park:
    “We knew what their strengths were and they played to them well. Two good crosses, two good headers and suddenly we were behind.”

    So how do United go about booking a place in the fourth round?
    “We’ll try and get the passing game going and make a game that will suit us more than them. As long as we take the initiative and start the game well, I’m sure we can get a good rhythm going.”

  97. samuel - united WE stand says:

    - – fergie will spot quality/potential (which zaha essentially is, he’s not proven at the highest level despite his talent and he will stock these players in the squad in order to develop. It’s all long term thinking whilst also scouring the world for the present.

  98. DreadedRed says:

    ex Sportige:

    ‘It’s been nearly 29 years since the last time Manchester United led at half time in a home match and ended up losing it. Ron Atkinson was the manager on May 7, 1984, when United, up 1-0 against Ipswich through Mark Hughes, dropped the lead, conceding twice and eventually losing the match and in their run for the title against Liverpool.’

    ‘Since the beginning of the Premier League era (1992-1993 season), there have been 212 occasions when United have been leading after 45 minutes – they’ve won 200 of those and drawn just 12.’

    Nice one SAF, keep it up mate.

  99. DreadedRed says:

    Away tie magic from Gigs and Van Persie – 20 seconds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPmr1OFpmI

  100. DreadedRed says:

    If we win tonight, Fulham (+ Berbatov) await. They beat Blackpool away in extra time last night.

  101. StatesideAussie says:

    We are allowing too many goals for this to be called our best team. But I do think we are getting into a groove. Before our eyes, Cleverley is emerging as a midfielder to be reckoned with, while Carrick has ripened into a fully fledged puppet-master, pulling the strings, calling the tune, setting the tempo. Around them, we have players like Kagawa buzzing with verve and energy. Some of our passing has been sharp, there’s a real rhythm to our play and our never-say-die fighting spitit has never been in better shape. And to top it off, there’s RVP up front.

    Balanced against al that, we have been vulnerable in defence, and our wing play has too often been merely mediocre (at least by our historical very high standards). If we can hold it together, I feel sure we’ll win the league. If we can improve even more, the sky’s the limit. Cheers lads!

  102. Bobby Charlton's combover says:

    I’ve never seen Zaha kick a ball so I cant’ be a judge. Is he the real deal or is he another overpriced English player like say…….Jordan Henderson?

  103. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Bobby, Zaha is Bebe2.0 for me. A winger with who will get freekicks and not because he dives. Younger Nani without the vision, might be a bit harsh. Related to the Bebe comparison. Probably faster, better with the ball at his feet. The final ball only just better thought

    My problem is the cost….. 14m is insane for me. IF you “agree” that 7m for Bebe was a fair price, THEN you might be pleased with Zaha for 14m otherwise, I just don’t get it.

    Probably in the Bit faster, better with the ball at his feet, but the final ball only just better.

    Here is a video that shows he makes things happen for CP, but not because of a silky pass. More brute force. If this is the the new Bebe, I can buy that. If this is the new Giggs I weap.

  104. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Here is the Zaha video I mentioned that has been doing the rounds:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9YwHqagTKis

  105. NBI Red Onion says:

    League getting stronger. We need more points to win. Any top team that drops points needs to look over their shoulder at the next 2 or 3. Competition for 4th spot also huge. We need to get those points just to keep ahead of City now, Chelsea then. Chelsea had 61 points one year at this stage of the season. We need to just keep those points coming to win this league. Fingers crossed no collapse, no bad injuries. Keep it nice and steady.

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