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Levy With Egg On His Face After Tottenham Dossier Inadequate

With reports all week suggesting that Dimitar Berbatov’s move would be completed any day now, the Premier League’s investigation is still ongoing.

After an article appeared in The Sun carrying quotes supposedly from Sir Alex Ferguson talking about Berbatov, Daniel Levy erupted.

“Today’s public comments by Manchester United’s manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players,” he said. “It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.”

However, the following day, Sir Alex Ferguson said he knew nothing about these recent comments, claiming he hadn’t mentioned Berbatov by name to anyone. A sheepish Scandinavian supporters club website came forward, suggesting they had misquoted the manager.

Tottenham Hotspur fans appeared here in their droves, claiming that Levy had far more evidence than just these quotes in The Sun. In fact, he had a whole dossier full of evidence that was going to have United strung up for tapping up.

Well, the Premier League have looked at Spurs’ evidence, but what do they make of it?

It has been decided today that there is not enough evidence to suggest that United have been guilty of tapping up, but have instead offered Spurs the opportunity to provide some proof.

A three-man panel of Sir Dave Richards, Richard Scudamore and Mike Foster, discussed the evidence that Levy put forwarded, but concluded that no action could be taken against United on that alone.

So the London club have a few more weeks to get any information together which they can submit to the panel, however, Spurs have had a month to get their facts together for this case, so the chances of further evidence appearing are pretty slim.

David Gill has re-opened negotiations with Daniel Levy over the signing of the player but it appears as though we won’t have to pay Spurs off with a dodgy donation like the dippers did. Unless Spurs can produce examples of irrefutable evidence, the case will be closed, whether we sign the player or not.


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Scott is the editor of Red Matters - 50 Years of Supporting Manchester United and an author of Play Like Fergie's Boys and Not Nineteen Forever. He writes for ESPN, The Metro and Bleacher Report. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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46 Comments

  1. EbonyJane says:

    You know Ferguson got some front forever whinging about Barca tapping up
    Ronaldo when he did it with Carrick now Berbatov and also put it about
    that he would like to take Poyet from Spurs. Why dosent he just say that
    he is not interested in Berby and give us all some peace, well until he
    fancies somebody else.

  2. Mesmo says:

    I think you’ll find that the quote from the FA was more along the lines that they had requested more information from BOTH clubs as they did not have enough evidence as yet to reach a conclusion… slightly different from the angle you are blinkeredly presenting.

    Are you maybe guilty of showing some of Fergusons arrogance? I’m not sure. I certainly know that it was arrogant of someone to release a ‘Barbatov is signed and we’re holding up the team photo for him’ leak to the press yesterday.

    That seems to have backfired. Still, that’s what happens when you use your press connections to conduct your transfer business.

  3. YID ARMY says:

    Do you know what was submitted? It beggars belief how ignorant some of you guys are. You say Spurs have a few weeks to submit the evidence and then say because they have a month to submit that their case looks pretty slim. I don’t quite get the link between the two. Do we need a mountain load of evidence infront of a JCB?
    Also, you are absolutely sure our evidence is from the Sun. All he said about the Sun article was arrogance on your part. He didn’t say that was his evidence. Can some of you read and understand at all? Goodness me.

  4. Suffolkspur says:

    Dear Scott, As you & every other true football supporter knows even if the premier league had caught Old red nose in bed with Berbatov & his mother the three wise men you mentioned who looked into this would’nt have done a dam thing about your lot tapping Berb up, Levy is nobodys fool & he is not the figure head of a multi billion pound company for nothing (enic) He wouldnt of gone down those channels without something to complain about, we’ve all been told about how we got Ramos behind Savillas back’s, but the fact’s remain you cant tap up a manager (fact) Bostock again was a free agent Spurs offered Palace 3million for the boy & palace got greedy & wanted 5 in the end they gor 2.5, The trouble with the Berbatov saga is the way Red nose has made no secret of wanting him since last summer and has used the media to help push it along, in the same way Madrid tried to do with Ronaldo, In a funny sort of way us Spurs fans will be glad to see the back of him with a healthy 20 odd million profit to boot & the prospect of signing a player who gives his all in every game & not just when the mood takes him, For what it’s worth Berbatov is a class player but also a luxery player we could well do without. Good luck with him.

  5. CATCHER says:

    Who gives a toss you were never going to be found guilty anyway. But what i do feel is that we will hold out for £35 Million for Berbs, till last knockings, then refuse to sell him to you Mancs and leave you with out a decent striker. Ronaldo (injured) Rooney (injured + useless) Sarah (always injured + useless) Tevez (ugly + useless) = NO TITLE

    Come On You Spurs

  6. Stephen says:

    Mesmo, you really told us, we promise never to do it again sorry.

  7. THIS_IS_MANCHESTER says:

    i always said a dossier that contained a photocopied back page of The Sun was never going to hold up!

    also how can tottenham fans play the “stand up to the big clubs” card? i mean not only did they tap up their current manager, but when chelsea took frank arn. from them they could have made a united stand then but instead they took the compensation payment from chelsea, and look no further then keanes transfer to liverpool – first they reported them but once liverpool made that payment to tottenhams “charity” it was all forgotten.

    as SAF says Levy is “different”!

  8. Redrio says:

    EbonyJane – you really know nothing. Ronaldo and Barca or did you mean Real Madrid. From there you show you know very little.

    United have not hounded Spurs over Berbatov in the press and therefore done nothing wrong. There is no crime in making an offer for the player of another team or coach for that matter (not that United have publicly said anything about Poyet either). Otherwise transfers would only happen when a player becomes a free agent.

    Levy is embarrassing Spurs.

  9. Scott the Red says:

    Yid Army – can we read? It’s funny you say that the quotes from The Sun weren’t Levy’s evidence…

    “Today’s public comments by Manchester United’s manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players,” he said. “It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.”

    Does he say anything about any other evidence he has in regards to his complaints? I don’t see it. Maybe you could read it to me…

  10. RedForeva says:

    Well Ebonyjane are you telling us that Barca are now after Ronaldo too?!?! Anyway Levey is one of the Biggest hypocrit’s ever for instance look at his Chasing Of Stuart Downing! besides if you look at speculation in all the papers United would have signed every Worldclass striker in the world!

    DONT Belive everything you read! ;-)

  11. Stephen says:

    Ebony Jane, do you know anything about football?

  12. YID ARMY says:

    FAO. THIS IS MANCHESTER.
    When Fergie said Levy is different, he knew he is different cos you can’t mess with him and get away with it. He is a Cambridge graduate with a first class degree in charge of a multi billion dollar company. Ofcourse he is different.

  13. THIS_IS_MANCHESTER says:

    YID ARMY i think he was refering to his mental state… which is different to the norm

  14. Stephen says:

    @ Yid Army, so what exactly does that mean in the terms of dealing with a transfer, did it help him when you signed Kaboul or Kevin Prince Boatang?

  15. Scott the Red says:

    Yeh Levy knows what he’s doing alright. He intended to see Spurs finish outside the top 10 so that they have the element of surprise this season… Genius!

  16. YID ARMY says:

    FAO SCOTT THE RED.

    Yes I can read, but can you understand what you read? Ever heard of the experession “the straw that broke the camel’s back”? He knew this was going on, the talking to the agents etc. But he felt what he read in the paper was taking the mickey.

    Maybe, you should have read his other statements which said he you guys were talking to the player and his agent without permission. You are unbelievable. Think outside the box for a change.

  17. YID ARMY says:

    fao this is MANCHESTER.
    Yeah Levy’s mental state is very sound hence in charge of a company like Enic. I don’t know about the other person’s mental state though cos most of the time he doesn’t think carefully before he speaks.

  18. YID ARMY says:

    Stephen.

    Don’t be ridiculous. Just like your manc colleagues, you just shoot from the hip without thinking. We are talking about legalities here, not signing a centre back or striker. He deals with the legal and money side of it. He doesn’t identify targets. If you want that topic then we could talk about Veron and Kleberson.

  19. Juande REVOLUTION says:

    Whether there’s proof or not everyone knows what ‘sir’ Alex is like and his little stunt this time has just added 4 or 5 million to the selling price….perhaps now he will learn his lesson

  20. Mesmo says:

    Reply to ‘This_Is_Manchester’

    Before you imply anything further by putting Tottenham’s Charity in inverted commas, I suggest you look at the verified figures of charitable donations to local communities carried out by independent monitors.

    It found that Tottenham had dedicated £4.5m to local community projects through the Charitable Trust in 2006-7, while in the same period Man Utd had given just over £62,000. A bit of a difference considering the capacity of the grounds and the turnover.

    Maybe if Man Utd showed a little humility for once they might consider the same approach as Liverpool… But as normal, Fergie and all Man U fans believe they are right in everything… After all, they and Sky do make the rules and run English football.

    http://www.24dash.com/news/Communities/2007-03-26-Chelsea-FC-near-bottom-of-charitable-donations-league

  21. Stephen says:

    Yid Army, you are so proud if your chairmans educational background aren’t you, not sure how that helps in the world of football, which Ferguson has been in for over 50 years.

  22. Stephen says:

    Yid Army, Veron is a very poor player with 60 caps for Argentina and Kleberson was shit for us but has a World cup winners medal, but I am sure you know that.

  23. YID ARMY says:

    Stephen,

    again read and understand something before you make silly statements. One of you guys said sarcasticly that Fergie said Levy is different. My reply was he is cos he is not your average joe who will lie down and take a rubbish from fergie cos he is fergie.

  24. YID ARMY says:

    Stephen,

    I could go and sign Romario now cos he has won the world cup or sign Dino Zoff cos he won the world cup. If he can’t play for my team, does it mean that I my judgement was good on those transfers? If that’s the case, then my 9 year old nephew could sign Roque junior straight away. He knows he won the world cup too. Think please. Please.

  25. Stephen says:

    Levy is no different than any Chairman mate, David Gill isn’t stuipid either, but Levy is using all the the tools at his disposal to up the transfer fee thats all. If you believe Spurs are whiter than white with regards to transfer dealings, then you must be very naive, which I don’t think you are.

  26. YID ARMY says:

    Stephen,

    I agree with you on your last post about Levy and Gil. All am saying is he wouldn’t be messed about. We agree on one thing at last. Good night and take care.

  27. Stephen says:

    You too mate, have a good season.

  28. Wiggsman says:

    YID – Your a plebhead! Bottom line here is that Levy got on his high horse after the Sun article, which was proven to be innacurate. So here is your 1st class Cambridge grad spouting about Fergie in public without checking facts! Doesnt matter about any other supposed evidence…..he made a fool of himself!

    Furthermore – the hypocrissy of the rant was exposed when Sevilla came forward about the signing of Juande I sell all my strikers Ramos. You Yids can revel in getting more money for Carrick, Keane and Berba when he comes – but what good is loads of cash, when your team is still shit and you cant win fuck all but the Disney Cup (See Arsenal as well)

    Now – we could argue the vaule of signings all day but this is what counts – 10 leagues and 2 Champ Leagues….only the Fergie trophies of course!

    Red Army

  29. mking says:

    What the FA are saying is that they do have evidence, just not enough. What i would like to be submitted is the alleged tape of the interview that took place in Norway where fergy was allegedly misquoated. When the alleged incident happened, the journalist who recorded the interview he said that the interview was recorded, offer up the tapes then if they are to prove man united are not guilty. Sir Alex ferguson is nothing but a bully and as soon as he is leaves Man United fans are in for a massive reality shock. United are a club who became successful at the right time, TV and football merging together to bring the game to the masses for a price. All of a sudden you could be in tinpot republic and all you see on TV is united united. And so the money Man U get from international fans as well as their glory hunter (not from Manchester or have any reason to support the club) fans in the UK allows them to spend money at will. With more success come more money, and with more money comes more success, combine that with Fergy bully boy tactics and Man United are unstoppable. When fergy goes however, you guys are (insert swear word)!!!

  30. Liam says:

    didn’t Andrei Arshavin tell the press that he has agreed personal terms with Spurs before the clubs had agreed terms?

  31. Suffolkspur says:

    Man utd would always come out looking the better in this comic releif outake as they sit at the same table as SKY & the premier league, again all because of money, I do think some of you man utd fans have the american attitude of your owners and think nothing outside of manchester matters you are living in a goldfish bowl & should try seeing things from other angles & not just the one thats suits you, You all seem to think that if anybody goes against Red Nose then they must be in the wrong, you all think your right & us Spurs fans are no different and will stick with our club regardless of what ever you think of us, I do think though you have trouble understanding why it is you show as much arragance as your manager & are frownd upon by other clubs supporters.

  32. OTRed says:

    @miking: I guess Spuds must be really stupid, cus they have money and yet no success and after their spending orgy this season, I’ll take anyone on a bet that they’ll finish 5th place at best. No wonder Arsenal fans hate you lot, you’re all deluded like the Scouse and Newcastle fans. When Fergie leaves, he leaves us as a great club with loads of history and trophies, when your owner leaves, he leaves you with nothing. Can’t wait to see where your spending gets you this season.

  33. monbiche says:

    The arogance of you manc fans is unbelievable, spend all summer crying about Ronaldo been tapped up and when a similar complaint is made about you, you call spurs and levy stupid. So you looked stupid after your complaint to Uefa?

  34. YID ARMY says:

    FAO liam.

    Do you guys speak for the sake of speaking? I wish you could read a bit more about it before you have your say. Yes, it’s unusual, especially in this country, to agree terms with the player when the clubs haven’t agreed terms. But this is Rissia. The player has an agreement that he can leave, so he was asked to speak to Spurs to agree terms whilst they haggled with Spurs on the price. If it was wrong, the club would have voiced their opinion a long time ago. The player and his agent both made it public that everything is sorted except the fee. I don’t think they are that stupid to come out publicly on Sky and say that if it is going to piss the club off and scupper the deal.

    On the other hand, it is completely different to when Arjen Robben was shown around OT without PSV’s permission and same as Hargreaves. It enraged both PSV and Bayern. If you don’t know what happened to Robben, Kenyon stepped in and took him to Chelsea.

  35. YID ARMY says:

    Wiggsman,

    you have shown your level here. If you had taken time to read a few posts before, and not rush in to have a go at my posts, you would have realised that, there was no need for your first paragrapgh cos that had been answered already. As I told one of your mancs, the article was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    And let me tell you, no one is taking about revelling in getting cash. We are not £800m in debt and our club hasn’t been mortgaged. We just wouldn’t be bullied, just like Fergie not wanting that from Real. If you want the player, pay the price. If not, look elsewhere or haggle with us. End of.

  36. Stephen says:

    Spurs and United just need as adults to sort the situation out. Spurs are resigned to loosing the player we obviously want to buy the lad, Spurs want big, big money for him we want to pay as little as posible. Levy is playing the game to extract as much money as posible, and probably both clubs could have dealt with the transfer better, but that is football. The likely senario is a deal will be done @ around £28m for him, as usual we pay too much, and Spurs don’t get all the money they want, but get an unhappy player off their books, and to me a lot of money, and we get the player we seem so obsessed about so a general happy/un happy conclusion to one of the most boring transfer dealings since Hargreaves, Carrick, Tevez can’t wait until next summer oh.

  37. Stephen says:

    Ps guys look on the brightside Newcastle have just paid £10.3m for Richie Sambora!

  38. YID ARMY says:

    Crickey Stephen.
    What’s come over you? No pun intended there, but that’s one of that’s one hell of a post. No arrogance, no delusion, no slating of so called feeder clubs. Nah. That aint Stephen.

    Seriously though Stephen, I agree with you a million percentage. This is what happens in transfers. I think £28m is really cool deal for both parties considering if you won another CL, it would be peanuts. That will also be a good deal for us and not seen to have been pushed about. Everyone is happy and everyone is a winner. More of that Steve.

  39. YID ARMY says:

    Stephen,

    RE: Previous post. One of the reasons why some despise you guys is the sheers audacity and arrogance in your attitudes. I mean your staff and some of the fans. They click we are so and so, so we click our fingers and you have to jump. Some of the stuff I have heard from some of fans is unbelievable. It’s almost like “we want him and what’s your problem cos you are so and so”. Am not just talking about this transfer but general stuff. 3 years ago, we scored that famous goal at OT that was never given. It cost us a place in Europe, but we never ranted and raved at the official and called him biased. But this is exactly what Fergie did against Pompey in the FA Cup and got away with it. That’s why people get so wound up about you guys. I jumped for joy when OGS scored in 99 cos it was an Englisg club. I celebrated like a manc. But as the years went by, my attitude was changing towards you guys and I am not alone.

  40. Stephen says:

    Its is only natural to think like that and I felt the same towards Liverpool in the 80′s. I was @ OT that night and it was a clear goal even inside the ground and Jol was a gentleman full stop, which probably was his undoing! We have had decisions go against us, but what comes around goes around, I suppose, but other clubs go on about bad decisions, Souness, Wenger, Benitez, Hughes ect are all as bad.

    All clubs are acused of some sort of arrogance. Jordan/Warnock, Del Nido have all said less than complementary things about your side of late, but thats football.

    We don’t know what has gone on behind the scenes on this transfer, I personally though you guys pretty much told Berbatov that he had to stay last season and could be sold this, similar to probably Ronaldo for us.

    But from your prospective you speak from your heart about Spurs, which is great but you are on a United site and you will get some sort of stick it only natrual, as I would on a Tottenham site.

    To say we click our fingers on a player is a little unfair, we do always pay well over the odds for players, you should know with Carrick! but Liverpool this summer have all done the same, with Keane, Barry in my view and Chelsea do it all the time.

  41. YID ARMY says:

    Fair points Stephen. When I say click your fingers, I mean you guys expect it just to happen. Am not talking about how much money you have to pay.

    I disagree with you on the Liverpool 80 etc. Most managers will have a go at refs, but I can’t remember them questioning the ref’s integrity live on TV, and also getting away with it. That was a bit much. It makes people ask, who the hell does he think he is? That’s my point.

  42. YID ARMY says:

    This article actually appeared on our site and it wasn’t complimentary to us or our chairman at all, hence the Spurs fans on it. Am not one to wonder on people’s sites.

  43. Stephen says:

    With regards to Fergie, he is a winner and winners are abrasive people thats just the way they are, they don’t like loosing and look to balme anyone but themselves.

    Mourinho has question numerous peoples integrity, Warnock, Wenger, Benitez, Hughes, are all as bad. But to be honest he has said things for example re Martin Taylor last season which incredibaly he got away with, which even as a fan you do think mmm, but I would not swap him for anyone.

    We have also put up with our fair share of criticism, for example the pulling out of the FA cup which really was not our choice but the FA’s but we were left holdng the baby on that one.

    I felt the Rio Ferdinand ban was ridiculous, and we were made an example of, but the City player only got I believe a fine.

    to say we just click our fingers and expect it to happen is unfair, we had to wait over a season for Hargreaves and van nistelrooy, Tevez was a long haul as was Carrick and Ferdinand.

  44. Wiggsman says:

    YID – I read your posts, but your missing the point. It may have been the Straw that broke the camels back, but as we know now, there was no straw there coz Fergie did not saw those things. Like I said, your chairman jumped the gun on his public attack on us.

    To be honest I dont believe you – if your trying to say that the Spurs fand, board etc are’nt loving the fact that you squeezed extra cash out of the transfers then your lying – I loved it when we managed to actually sell Eric he’s so shit they named him twice Djemba and get money for him.

  45. Wiggsman says:

    Today’s public comments by Manchester United’s manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players,” he said. “It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.”

    Just in case you forgot what the Cambridge grad said!!!

  46. Jimmybob says:

    Levy is a hypocrite pure and simple ask cyrstal palace ask sevilla and ask martin jol about how this man runs things

    he has a class issue re SAF and he can’t abide the fact he is getting outflanked by a govan ship yard worker

    sorry levy the great man doesn;t have to doff his cap to you and your ilk now gtf

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