Anders Lindegaard says he sees David de Gea as a co-worker, rather than someone who he believes is above or below him in rank.
Lindegaard has been preferred to De Gea since Fulham at home although there is the possibility the Spaniard may return to the starting XI for Galatasaray tomorrow.
“At this point, I see David’s and my roles as co-workers rather than No 1 and No 2,” he said. “He has his strengths and I have mine and the gaffer is world class at picking the right teams and I trust in that and I accept his decision. Whether I am playing or not is still a very open question because every time you play for United it is an exam. It doesn’t matter whether it is Champions League, Premier League or a training match. That is how it is.”
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Pass with flying colours Anders!
I was the NE stand on Saturday and from where I was he looked solid and was comfortable with the crosses. It’s good to see two top quality keepers competing for the same position; can’t remember the last time that happened.
Better than picking your nose though.
… unless it’s a nasal examination. Should be clean as a whistle, if he’s kept his nose clean.
Main notable absentees from training – Young, Rooney, Smalling and Jones. Anderson and Evra both training as is Fletcher.
We need Rooney back esp for the game against Stoke. I don’t wanna see those thugs tearing down Kagawa and VP. Our Roo hopefully if he’s healed up can push n shove with the best of em. No one taking him down.
If Young’s out, I’m going for a lineup tomorrow of
DDG
Rafael
Vidic
Rio
Evra
Valencia
Carrick
Kagawa
Anderson
Nani
RVP
Maybe Cleverley in for Anderson.
Still think Anders will get the FA and League cup games and Davide will be the No 1 in EPL and CL.
That is how it should be so players develop a rapport.
The back 4 will never settle if they keep swapping keepers. The clean sheet will be very good news to all concerned
I’d say DDG got slightly better skills than Lindy, but Lindy is more calm than DDG because of his age. When DDG has became more mature, he will get the calmness that Lindy has. “When” is the question because it should be asap as Fergie seems to lost his patience by saying publicly on why he dropped DDG.
@FletchTHEMAN
Definitely agree – defenders need the same keeper behind them week in week out to develop an understanding. Chopping and changing won’t help with this and the sooner SAF settles for one or the other the better.
2 good keeper , how nice.
Speaking of nose, I lived in Denver for 2 years. A dry climate. Huge buggers, great for rolling and throwing.
Great move by sir alex for not tolerating any mistakes in every department of the pitch, hopefully that will bring the best outta every member of the squad
Zibbie – two good keepers is not to be sneezed at. Tickled that they seem to get on without any hanky-panky. Keeping a clean sheet of tissue paper won’t be a problem. Europe ‘snot that dry, so balls are tricky to roll or throw. Blocking the mouth is their priority, else they might swallow their pride.
Dr Thanks for the laugh before work!
@kanchelskis
I would go for:
David de gea
Rafael. Rioferdy5. Vidic. Paddy
Valenca scholes carrick nani
Swags
RVP
Then would throw in andoo in the 70th minute for scholesy if we happen to be winning at that time.
I think whatever lined up we put out will be good enough to do the job.
Have a great off-topic day Señor Inzibbie!
Thanks God we blessed with two outstanding keepers.Its a rarity in most teams to find two GK’s who can walk into most teams.
@Bobbie Charlton…. Cheers mate.
RoyKeane’s Last game w United, 7yrs ago today. Away to Anfield in 2005. Broken foot and nil all draw.
Hardly a blaze of glory. (via manutd.com)
ddg
rafael rio vida Pat
clevs Carrick
Valencia Shinji Nani
rvp
Bench: Ando, chicha, welbz, Evans, powell
Anyone heard as of 18/09/12 The FA have brought in a new ruling. Anyone found passing to Andy Carroll will automatically receive a yellow card for time wasting.
Can people stop saying why has Fergie dropped DDG. He hasnt been dropped, someone else is playing. It was thought better that Lindegaard should play against Southampton as they play a more physical game and Lindegaard copes with that better. Against Wigan it was decided to carry on with the keeper in view of DDG playing against Galatasary.
It was said at the beginning of the season that Lindegaard would start as DDG travelled with the spanish team, the fact DDG started was more of a shock to me than the other way round. DDG is not dropped, no punishment, just a fixture issue. DDG is not ready to play all 60 odd games United would expect to be playing. Dont be surprised if Lindegaard plays 20-30 odd.
@Proverb
Can Fergie start Scholesy after a 70-minute shift on Saturday? Might be doable, but I think he’ll trust Carrick+Kags+(Ando/Clev) at home.
That said, I can’t see Scholesy starting on Sunday either. Liverpool always play with intensity when we visit the shithole, and I can see that game passing him by if he starts. But Rogers’s approach seems a bit less frenetic, so maybe it would suit him?
Either way, think we’ll see Scholesy on the bench tomorrow.
I love the people on here begging for Rooney to come back and play. Youve obviously forgotten that we have gone from a Rooney Rooney me me me style of play to miss controls, out of possition and poor forward passing to the excitement of pass and movement of the previous games that have seen us see success.
I wish you lot would take it in turns to manage England Rooney – Gerrard – Lampard here we go – yyyyaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn
Goat
Its Fergie himself who admitted that De Gea was dropped. It was before the match against Southampton.
My team for tommorow would be
DDG
Rafael – Evans – Vidic – Evra
(Rio needs a rest and even though Evans is really a LCD he will do ok and it is against Galatasary)
Carrick
Fletcher – Anderson – Cleverley – Wellbeck
Van Persie
I see Fletch getting a run out on the wide right possition with Rafael overlapping. I see us really blocking the middle of the park forcing them to cross in the ball. They havent got the body mass to trouble our defenders from crosses. So even if the squad is devoid of wingers I think it would play out a bit more like
DDG
Evans – Vidic
Fletcher – Carrick – Ando
Rafael – Cleverley – Evra
Wellbeck
Van Persie
Red Robin
Didnt catch that what were his exact words? Theres dropped for a poor performance and theres dropped because another is playing.
My formation is
DDG
Rafa Vidic Rio Evra
Valencia Carrick cleverley/fletcher Nani
Kagawa
RVP
I desperately want to see Fletcher back again. There was just something different about our midfield when Fletch was in.
Lol. Me and goat the only people left with any faith in Anderson, I see!
To be honest, if he’s not starting games like tomorrow’s, his days at United are well and truly numbered.
SAF: “I’ll be playing a more experienced team tomorrow,
the key to success in the competition will be keeping the defenders fit.
Presser is underway!
@Fletch
More experienced … does that mean one or both of the granddads? After they both started on Sat?!
Or does he just mean more experienced than the ones he was putting out in last year’s group stage?
@kanchelskis
Its likely to happen, I mean, the ginger prince is the only midfielder we have that can control the tempo of any match
We are out this season for make a statement, to show the world that we are still a force to be reckoned with, his amazing understanding with kags could also be pivotal in controlling the game and making those openings for RVP to bag in one or two.
I still bet for him to start
I believe Sir Alex would be putting in some experienced head, so I fully expect Scholes or Giggs to start.
Very good presser from Sir Alex and Chicharito:
Comments of the presser were:
1. From the Manager:
“We are completely in support of Liverpool FC at this moment in time and understand what the families must have felt
“If I could guarantee two of Vidic, Evans and Ferdinand being fit for the whole season I’d take that now!”
Because of the inexperience “alternating [keepers] is not a big problem for me”
Kagawa is fit and a very important player for us:
2. From Chicharito
“I’m happy, a proper rest and I made my first pre-season with the team….
“I’m the luckiest player in the world playing for this great club”
@Kancheskis
Basically SAF said he isn’t taking anything for granted and wants 3 points and goals.
Feels GD will be very important.
For me, I’m expecting Ge Gea. He has more experience in huge games. and Gala way is going to be a big ask.
Other big story is todays release of Uniteds last quarter financials, here are some balanced Tweets: from Martyn Ziegler
@martynziegler
32m
Man Utd’s annual results out – 3.3% drop in revenue to £320.2m. Commercial income tops broadcast + matchday for first time.
16m
@MattDunnExpress take your point Matt but still 13.7% increase
Man Utd actually made a £23m profit but that was entirely due to a £28m tax credit – without that would have been a £5m loss.
De gea
Rafael vidic Evans evra
Anderson Clevs
Valencia kagawa nani
Rvp
Me Finks Carrick scholes and ferdy need a break
I’m expecting a goalkeeper who fucks up to get dropped and stay dropped until his replacement fucks up.Only way that makes sense.
United quarterly report Big gain in non match day earnings buffers CL exit last year.
3.3% loss compared with last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19633967
Parryheid…. Could be, but DeGea has bigger game experience. Europa Cup Finals for one.
Think he will be the go to guy for now. If it is Anders tomorrow it is more likely that SAF is tying to play the some of the B team, as is his want every year.
Still expect to see De Gea v Liverpool.
@parryheid
Did you not see Lindegaards kicking against Southampton? ‘Fucked up’ about 5 times in that respect. Could easily have led to them scoring from a cheap attack.
Was still in place against Wigan though.
I think that when we replaced Edwin (+ Tomasz) with de Gea and Lindegaard, we had already decided that both keepers will get plenty of games. No number 1 keeper, unless injury or dramatic form loss occurs. de Gea is too young to be our only top-rate keeper, so the quality of Lindegaard was obtained. But Anders needs to play, as does de Gea, so they both play.
Sir Alex on defenders:
“I think the key is to keep the defenders fit. I mean that we had a rough ride with defenders being injured in the last two or three years. If they remain fit that gives us a better opportunity.
“At the moment with Smalling and Jones out long-term, I’m down to three centre-backs – Vidic, Ferdinand and Evans. If I could be guaranteed two would be fit for the rest of the season, I’d gladly take that right now. But that’s not been the case over the last few seasons. It’s a key issue for us and we can’t hide it. I just hope we get a bit of luck in that respect.”
Sir Alex on getting through the group:
“Finishing off games has to be a driving force for us. I think we all agree we were careless in two of the games at home last season. The Basel game was the one where the criticism quite rightly lies. We were 2-0 up and playing well and then got careless in the second half and ended up drawing 3-3. That ended up knocking us out, really. We had to go there [to Basel] and get a result and we ended up chasing our tails. Hopefully our home form, which had been good for many years, will be good again this year. In some years, the group stage has been straightforward and I’ve played a lot of young players. But the team will be more experienced tomorrow.”
Sir Alex on Lindegaard / de Gea:
“The most important thing I’m trying to do is give both of them experience in the English game. Neither is as experienced as Edwin van der Sar or Peter Schmeichel. Alternating isn’t a problem for me. They’re both equally very good goalkeepers. That’s the policy we’ve adopted this season and last season, although De Gea played most of last season after Lindegaard was injured. I’m comfortable with this situation.”
I keep thinking about Sunday’s match against Liverpool and that irascible Suarez than Galatasaray.
They seemed to play better against the top 4 teams and will be at home.
kanchelskis.
How many points were lost through Lindegaard’s kick outs or goals? Zilch as I recall why do you resent DeGea being dropped,prepared to bet you were one of the first calling for Rafael to be dropped in games you considered he had made errors in.Is it your belief a record transfer fee should guarantee playing regardless the cost to the team.It isn’t mine.
Haven’t won at Anfield since December 07. Too long. Let’s rip on the buggers on Sunday.
@parryheid
Lol. Chill your tits. I don’t resent De Gea being dropped.
An objective analysis of a keeper’s errors should strictly not take into account whether an opposing goal resulted from their errors.
For De Gea’s Fulham error, had the ball bounced a little differently off Vidic’s heel, would De Gea then suddenly not deserve to be dropped?
If Southampton had scored two from attacks caused be Lindegaard’s bobbins kicking, would you then advocate him being dropped?
I’ve only ever thought once that Rafael should be dropped after an error, and that was his shocking dawdling against Bilbao. No place for that. Other than that, I’ve only ever really called out Rafael in response to your unquestioning loyalty to him, which is touching but baffling.
I don’t for one minute believe De Gea should start any game cos of his transfer fee.
And what concerns me is if DeGea played against Galatasery although we have taken action to shore up the back line our midfield has not and I expect Galatasery to come straight down the middle and be on our backline and he is not commanding his area even 1+season on.Just saying like.
If we picked line-ups based on transfer fee, our elder statesmen wouldn’t get a game.
If we had waited a year and taken RVP on a free, he wouldn’t get a place either.
@DreadedRed
Wonder what our most expensive viable XI is…
Something like
DDG
Smalling
Ferdinand
Jones
Evra
Nani
Anderson
Carrick
Young
Rooney
RVP
Lindy
Rafael
Vidic
Evans
Buttner
Giggs
Scholes
Cleverley
Powell
Welbeck
Hernandez
The bargain basement XI
kanchelskis.
As I stated if a goalkeeper fuck’s up drop him and keep him dropped until his replacement does the same.And on the subject of kicking with the ball to feet I have noticed DeGea is no better or worse than any other goalkeeper when our players play the ball back and the opposition are bearing down.You and others may think different,my advice watch him when it happens to him I did.
kanchelskis.
Also how did you know I am a wummin? Is it because I talk like a big Jessie.
Tic,ha
“t I have noticed DeGea is no better or worse than any other goalkeeper when our players play the ball back and the opposition are bearing down.”
What, like this you mean?
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gif-david-de-geas-cheeky-skills-v-fulham/
kanchelskis – wow! Two sides better than half the teams in the Prem could put out.
My money’s on the cheapies, Scholes getting MoM and a straight red.
That de Gea clip has been removed (I think), here is a 22 second clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7lmWYqtWmA
@DreadedRed
Cheers. Thought it was just work network blocking gifs.
Interesting to note who the risky pass comes from as well (ahem!)
Hernandez at today’s presser:
“My first season was very good for some people and for some people it was okay. My second season was okay for some people and very bad for others. Me? I’m happy and I’m enjoying my football. I just hope that the break this summer helps a lot. I had a proper rest and played my first pre-season with the team, so it’s going to help my fitness. I’m the happiest player in the world to play for this club. I’m always ready if the boss asks me to start or be on the bench. I’m focussed on the most important thing – the game tomorrow. I’m looking forward to it.”
“We know the history of this club. We know we have to aim for the top in every competition. We always look to the Champions League final and we try and win it. That’s the only thing in our mind. We want to prove we can win and not make the same mistakes as we did last season.”
I know one will say “not again” but had to bring it up:
The Guardian says United and Liverpool are in talks about a tribute to the Hillsborough victims and their families, prior to Sunday’s meeting at Anfield. Both Sir Alex Ferguson and Brendan Rodgers have appealed for supporters to cease chanting about tragedies suffered both clubs.
kanchelskis – I laughed aloud, but it’s hardly a risky pass!
Classic timing though,
Hernandez looking much better this season already, I think (pen miss aside – why was he taking it?!)
Not only the textbook goal v Wigan, but also his contribution to the seige at the end of the Southampton match.
It was an RVP ball angled towards the intelligent run of Hernandez that Clyne could only hoof out for the corner in stoppage time. The rest is history.
May seem a little contrived, but it’s that kind of stretching of defences that can prove so crucial in getting much-needed breakthroughs.
Here’s to more of the same this season.
Nah I know it wasn’t a hugely risky pass. Just wumming.
The other things about their kicking is that when De Gea panics at least he gets some elevation on his kicks, meaning it either goes for a throw or allows the defence to regroup a bit. When Lindegaard panics and kicks, they go flat and low, increasing the chances of ceding possession immediately.
Hernandez was also very involved in the 5-slide-tackles against Wigan.
Surprising to see him put himself about so effectively.
@DreadedRed
Yeh, chased one of the Wigan players back like a nutter!
fucking fuck those twats at the weekend for those chants…cunts they are….regardless of if it was at suarez..shitty timin and it goes against all us true reds who should respect there situation more so than others as we 2 suffered tragedy……..
2ndly fuck all my liverpool friends who are complaining bitches…its different when u fucks chant munich isnt it…..
anyway lets hope the real supporters show there respect on sunday as i certainly will…i would expect liverpool supporters to be hateful now for what was sung last week i just hope fergie has sumthing up his sleeve like what everton did… a true tribute and well done…
god i feel better for that
@kfc
Well said.
@Dreaded,
that clip was circulated after the game as well.
Davide taking Fulham to school!
Who was the player he schooled, must be one of the newbies innit?!
@KungFoo Spot on son. Idiots who can’t keep their d*cks in their mouths.
Errr That was tongues, er well, you lot know what I meant
@Perryheid
You say no points have been lost due to Lindegaard’s kicking but I’m not sure that’s 100% true. Sure he hasn’t made any serious kicking issue that’s caused a goal directly BUT De Gea’s superior kicking has regularry resulted in attacks being setup some of which have resulted in goals.
Also he puts the defence under pressure less often which can indirectly result in goals
fletchtehman
cheers mate, must say it nearly put a tear in my eye watchin that as i was thinkin of not those who died but also munich and fuck i had to tell my brain jokes to make it go away…..but i no the fans on sun will be outstanding as ive always said uniteds away supporters are the best in the world not just england HOWEVER i still want us to tank them on sunday
We have very tricky fixtures in the nxt few weeks, hope we get players back from injuries. This is the importance of a big squad for those of you who were asking why sign soo many attack minded players. Hope we can keep our defenders and midfilders fit!
kanchelskis.
that is worth being dropped for alone I remember a French twat got away with that.And when he got found out what was the result? Or don’t you remember Barthez,fact is Lindegaard is in position on merit and when that changes so should the goalkeeper.Pointless dispute.
I am with Wakey, Over all, De Gea is a much better keeper. Also has much more big game experience. He is also #1 for Spains U18 and #21s and they took him to euros as #3 on the senior team. This is Spain we are talking and the lad is on what 21?
Tell me honestly, close your eyes and tell me who you want between the sticks at the Antfields?
De Geas Palmares:
Club
Atlético Madrid
UEFA Europa League (1): 2009–10
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2010
Manchester United
FA Community Shield (1): 2011
International
UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship (1): 2007
UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship (1): 2011
@parryheid
So De Gea deserved being dropped for a risky moment of improvisation that didn’t lead to a goal.
Whereas Lindegaard doesn’t deserve to be dropped for a succession of errors that didn’t lead to goals?
Agenda much?
As for being no 1 for Spain,you could put a plank of wood in goal and it would come into contention for MoM and I disagree he puts the defence under less pressure,He is shit at cross balls and corners,does not command his area is easily bullied,A stay on the line goalie ask yourself what he was doing letting tiny Tevez block him on his line into extra time at the Etihaad to concede an easily saved goal and ta ta title challenge.Put him in goal this weekend vs Liverpool and they will be all over him guaranteed but if you think different so be it I wont even say told you.
@parryheid
I think you might be the only person under the sun blaming City’s goal at the Etihad on De Gea. The cross was nowhere near deep enough for him to come for. Smalling failed to pick up Kompany. That was the error and you know it.
Enough with the bizarre revisionist accounts to fit your bizarre little agenda.
I could just as easily – and with more justification – blame losing our title on Rafael because of his ‘defending’ in the last 10 minutes at home to Everton. But I won’t because I don’t have a weird problem with him like you do with De Gea. I’m fully aware that Rafael had many good games last season (as did De Gea) and that our failure to win the title last season was a collective one.
Evidently such rationality is beyond you.
kanchelskis.
Your only interested in DeGea playing at all costs and refuse to recognise he is at best an average goalkeeper watch a clip of the City game again.I wont even discuss the Blackburn Rovers game.Pray for De Gea to be in goal this weekend and no doubt the term always the victim never to blame will be in evidence.and I’m not talking about him coming for it anyway as he doesn’t do coming for it.I’m talking about him not stepping away from Tevez where he would have been right in the path of the header and my old granny would have saved that.
parryheid says:
Your only interested in DeGea playing at all costs
___________________________________________________________________
Another thing you’ve just made up.
I have no especial allegiance to De Gea. Just defending him against the irrationality of your bizarre vendetta.
How is de gea average?, he plays in a position that requires a lot of experience and in a league that severely tests all aspects of a keeper’s ability. This is his second season, he was never a finished product, the manager knew he is,a work in progress and with time, he’ll hopefully fulfill his potential. For me, de gea is the more talented of the two and has the capabilities to be a top class keeper, more so than lindegaard who seems a naturally confident person at the moment. De gea will nudge him aside and be the first choice. Football is all about patience and that’s what de gea will require to smooth the rough edges in his game. The manager knew exactly what he was getting himself into when ge signed the spaniard.
Don’t know where Fergie is getting at with the goalie situation. De Gea made one mistake among all the saves that kept us alive in the first 2 games and gets dropped. And now Fergie has admitted that he will rotate him and Linde. Why? So that we will turn them into Carroll/Howard 2?
@Costas
Sssshhhh! Don’t mention De Gea’s succession of excellent saves against Fulham! You’ll severely undermine someone’s worldview if you’re not careful!
I don’t rate him that should be perfectly clear by now all he has to do is convince me I am mistaken,not you or any fan boi’s what’s so hard to understand.He has had a full season to do that and failed and where I was a lone wolf once others notice we are not getting what’s on the tin.As I say covince me I will be happy to jump on your bandwagon,
Costas – to be fair, it’s a sign of the high standards expected from a united players. De gea seems mentally strong, can only hope he improves due to the threat to his position but I don’t understand the hoo ha around de gea, he is a work in progress. The keyword here is “potential” and with that, you get a roller-coaster like journey to fulfilling it. De gea is already on that path.
@kanchelskis
Lol, ok my fault. I actually discussed it with Parry a couple of weeks ago and he knows where I am coming from.
I am really not trying to put this into a DDG vs Linde perspective. We all have our opinions. It’s just that I’ve come to hate the amount of rotating our team goes through. And in this case, I still don’t understand why De Gea got the ax. He didn’t look to me like he lacked confidence. It was just that one mistake.
That being said, I will reiterate my point from last week: if Fergie goes with Lindegaard, he should stick with him for a long while. Not go back and forth week after week. It won’t do either guy any favors.
Costas – they won’t turn into Carroll/Howard 2. They are both going to steadily improve. Fergie’s statement that de Gea had made a mistake and would work on his game, was a minor issue. de Gea is going to be a great keeper, but he’s too young to shoulder the burden for 50 games a season; and he needs work. Lindegaard is more than a reserve, he’s a good keeper, and he too can improve.
We replaced Edwin with de Gea and Lindegaard (with Tomasz a casualty). de Gea’s not ready to be as effective as Schmeical or Van der Sar, but it will come. Lindegaard probably won’t reach those heights, but he’s already well competent. A carefully chosen foil to young David.
^ typo – ‘Schmeichel’, sorry!
Rotating keepers is our way. We chose that path for our 2 new keepers.
Injury or severe form-loss notwithstanding.
@Samuel
I agree. There are high standards and I want to believe that the players realize that. But if I was in De Gea’s shoes, I would wonder why I got dropped over one mistake. I don’t think any player that we saw against Everton and Fulham was flawless. It kind of feels like we are back to square one on the De Gea subject and that’s a shame. Because through his ups and downs, he had a very good second half of the 11-12 season and he looked pretty confident to me this season. I hope you’re right about him being mentally strong, because it looks like both goalkeepers will be on edge from now on. And like I said, I hope they handle it better than Carroll and Howard did.
Parry – it’s not “fan boys” situation. You’re entitled to judge a player as you please but for me, there’s a bigger picture to be analysed regarding de gea. It’s not about what you instantly get, it’s about what you could get with his evident talent and that’s what you call potential. De gea may have completed one season and entering another but he arrived from a league with a different philosophy. It.isn’t as physical in la liga, keepers are protected more hence why he’ll need time adapt to the league. Saying all that, you’re entitled to doubt a player and hope they prove you wrong.
@DreadedRed
Yep, no doubt that De Gea still has a lot to work on. Few goalies are the complete article in their early 20s. And Lindegaard is too talented to be used only in the odd cup game. However we have to be careful about how we rotate these two. For example, it shouldn’t happen every week. And it shouldn’t happen everytime the regular goalkeeper makes a mistake. There should be enough games for both of them over the course of a season, but we have to make sure their confidence doesn’t take a hit.
samuel-united We stand.
I agree totally your points I fully understand his potential and that it may be some time before we see it come to the fore.All the nonsense is based on my statement that if Lindegaard is not messing up he stays in possession until he does,some take objection to that I know not why.
Costas – I reckon de gea will come good. Of course, you worry about keepers handling a situation like this which involves their position not being guaranteed, especially an inexperienced one like de gea but I can see him thriving, learning and growing from it and hopefully turning into the top player we hope he can be. I think the constant rotation can only be due to lindegaard possessing quality, more so than most second choice keepers and a need to keep him motivated.
Costas – you’re right. Especially with regard to errors being attributed. I think that’s a vague smokescreen from Fergie, and that de Gea knows he will play about half the games. It makes sense to pick horses-for-courses too, although SAF’s agendas may be a lot more complex than ours. It probably won’t happen every week. Extended spells are good, although that is balanced against defenders available/selected. Understanding comes through playing together, and if our experienced CH’s are not available, until they return I think we might stick to one keeper,whoever gels best with the young CH’s selected.
Apparently Ronnie’s still sad
The one thing DDG has going for him is his footwork, something VDS was extremely good at. Remember when Foster was in goal how we dread every backpass that went to him?
Like many other said, how many world class keepers are the finished article when they are at DDG’s age? Casillas maybe? The likes of Schmeichel, Buffon and even Seaman only came to the fore when they are past their mid 20s.
As of now, DDG for me just edges it as No.1 for his overall abilities
Can someone please tell me the difference between nani and di maria
Di maria is very affective in his team
But I cannot say the same of nani
Nonsense, just like most of your commentary Prov911erb
Effective bloody typos
@proverb
What you mean like the season he had something like 18 league assists and 10 league goals?
Both of them run around the whole pitch as if looking for a lost coin on the pitch!!!
I’m not saying he’s crap or anything, I’m just answering the op’s question, he want us to tell him the difference between the two
And on that di maria wins IMO, he’s more effective than nani, while recognising nani’s brilliance on his day….
IMHO Fergie should stick with in-form GK. Of course one single mistake shouldn’t mean certain GK is off form.
De Gea for me when we speak about preferences though.
Fullstop.
@Jc you should of answered the question instead of jumping at the wagon
Is that too much to ask?
One shot at goal, one goal…
So far parking the bus is a good tactic fir the MIGHTY City. Luckily for them Real is shite at the moment.
Fucking joke. It’s like Chelsea last season all over again. Been bummed for 70 mins and somehow lead.
2-2 benzema with a classic finish after a great work from di maria
Great game!!!
YeeeEees!!!!!!!
Ronnie!!!! 3-2 to madrid at last
Cr7 strikes………… ha ha ha ha !!
Thank you Ronaldo!
City put in their place by a mid-table not in form Real.
Viva Ronaldo,,,,,,,,,,,,, thank fuck
Hahaha. Too fucking good
Cristiano Ronaldo has now scored 40 Champions league goals. Moves ahead of Drogba on the ALL-TIME top scorers list
What a player!!!
What a shame he’s not wearing the red shirt any more… i miss ronaldo’s class in our team
ronaldooooooooooooo!!!!!!
Yes. City feel the wrath of an ex united ronny. They must feel so dejected. Kompany losing it . Priceless. Really enjoyed the game.
Hart can’t give real credit. Talented Cunt. Thunk he’s going to blub.
Ha, he celebrated the goal too
see hw it feels losin in the last minute shitty!! (nice 1 ronnie!)
buzzin
There you have it,
Ronaldo scores only against shitty teams.
http://images.4chan.org/sp/src/1348000628329.gif
For me Ronaldo will always remain as a United player and for me as a legend, United and football, no matter what his attitude is .
Joe hart what bitter big headed blue twat.
Who the fuck does he think he is….twat
ROLF http://pic.twitter.com/lt0jo83w
interviewer ”du u give real any credit?”
joe fart”no”
they flippin won u big headed prick
my username says it all
Ronaldo made 50 passes v Man City, with a 100% pass accuracy.
Well, well, well…
I hope our lads were watching the game tonight, as it was a masterclass on how to play with grit and determination, Real played like United used to a couple of seasons ago.
This is exactly what we are missing at the moment. We still have pretty much the same team that humiliated AC Milan and even Bayern (until that shameful sending off) but for some reason, instead of hammering the opposition, we play cringeworthy, lazy sideway passes or just stand above the ball waiting for something to happen, then passing it to the defenders. I’m sure Fergie will sort this out, otherwise we don’t stand a chance in the PL let alone the CL.
Oh, and what a player Yaya Toure is! We definitely need someone like him.
But all in all it was great seeing the disappointed faces of these little city cunts.
Stockport is blue
LOL, I’m not Murinho’s biggest fan but when the ITV reporter asked him if he felt for City losing in that way having “played so well”, he just frowned and said “No” lol said this is football, we were the better team, we deserved it.
See this is why I have so much trouble watching United games on ITV, because they called City’s performance pretty much heroic tonight, but if it was United, it would be that we’re just not as classy as Madrid, we’re in decline and whatever the hell else. But I guess it’s good to be hated so much in a way
Well done Ron for sticking it to the manikins men, Joe Harts face was a picture. Haha.
On the rotating of the GK, that’s just fucking stupid. Why, fitness levels aren’t an issue for them the only thing this will do is play on the goalkeepers mind and cause more mistakes IMO.
There is a reason why no other team in Europe rotates goalkeepers.
Fergie is turning into a serial tinker man and that is not good and I believe is the reason why we are so inconsistent at the moment with our performances. He needs to decide what his best team is and stick to it, he’s almost becoming sentimental it’s very frustrating.
Haha. A £600 m assembled city squad go to Madrid play 11 behind the ball for huge portion of the game and bet 2 extremely lucky goals. The game opened up when Essien was taken off. Madrid lost their solidity in midfield up until this point as they comfortably out played city’s midfield trio.
The best form of defence is attack and madrid really did fight back. Modric should start instead of Essien and benzema instead of higuin, the next time the team plays. Sergio Ramos for varane too.by the way, do Maria was brilliant
Dela 22:02- spot on
Gareth Southgate deserves a slap how can you say Real Madrid just about deserved the victory, what an idiot. Real Madrid were better in the first half and the second half, the only highlight for Manchester City were Yaya Toure’s runs and Hart making some good saves.
When they asked Mourinho if he felt sympathy for Manchester City he gave an emphatic NO lol. Was very happy to Cristiano score and snatch the deserved points.
RONALLLLLLLLLLLLLDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck off Citeh
Press the opponent and they are reduced to long balls or that incredible monster Yaya toure… Honestly, I really don’t know why we don’t press like Real and Barca do. Are our players that unfit?
80M for Ronnie was a steal. And if Nani were to leave, replace him with Isco. Incredible talent.
Off topic ….
Brian Woolnough .., the well known ABU sports writer died today from bowel cancer
Diego.
Maybe we should employ tennis fitness trainers,any one of them can play if required three times a week in a five setter for pushing 5 hours a match.our players cant do 1 match with extra time a week without being on there knees and cramped up.
See the blog police was out in form tonight
And they thought me ‘n’ Cedars was bad ….
And all the discussion on here about goalkeepers is irrelevant … SAF will do what he wants and what is best for Utd in his view… We only get to see them on match days … SAF gets to see them all day everyday… Enough said..
Hey TonyBee Good!!
Liverpool have revealed details of the tribute that will be paid to the 96 Hillsborough victims this weekend when they return to Anfield for the first time since the damning report about the tragedy was published. A mosaic will be displayed on three sides of the ground – the Anfield Road End, the Centenary Stand and the Kop – before Sunday’s game against Manchester United to spell out ’96′, ‘Justice’ and ‘The Truth’ ahead of kick-off. Then 96 red balloons will be released by opposing captains Steven Gerrard and Nemanja Vidic to honour the memory of those who lost their lives on April 15, 1989.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2205268/Liverpool-Manchester-United-unite-Hillsborough-tribute.html#ixzz26rZ1EYao
Good match tonight, City were battered from pillar to post and they look completely lost in EUrope. Mancini didn’t even deserve the 2-2.
Willierednut banged on about Modric but I never really saw the quality until tonight. He had an instant impact when he came on.
Absolutely loved Ronaldo scoring the winner, pure class all match and he’d missed a chance to win it a few minutes before. Still think he misses Manchester tho!
I think we can expect a strong line up tomorrow. The disappointment of last season is still there and with 3 big league games to come I think Alec will announce the Club’s intentions. Rotation is key, and something tells me wrapping certain players up in cotton wool for certain games and resting them for others will be key this season. I wouldn’t want it any other way. Right tools for the job and all that.
The team for WIgan was inspired. No point having such a big squad but relying on a select few not to get injured. Its not easy to manage so many players but then again neither is beating two defenders. Any manager at United has to do more than Mourinho does. Not sure about the “back 5″ tomorrow but I really wouldn’t mind this lot starting.
Cleverly Anderson
Valencia Kagawa Nani
RVP
@Dela
“…they called City’s performance pretty much heroic tonight, but if it was United, it would be that we’re just not as classy as Madrid, we’re in decline and whatever the hell else.”
Truer words have never been written, my friend.
Rooney’sMiddleFinger @ 21:57: “what a player Yaya Toure is! We definitely need someone like him.”
No shit, Sherlock. Great, Big, Huge YaYa was the most important player in the EPL last year – forget RVP’s goals for a team that finished 20-something points off the pace – when ManShitty were without YaYa they struggled.
NoYaYa/NoWin
The issue – “someone like him” – is straightforward to analyze but very difficult to solve. How many players combine his size, strength, ball-striking, speed, and positional play ? Actually, name another one – the closest I can come up with is Marouane Fellaini, who is a poor man’s version of GreatBigHugeYaYa. In an earlier time, DirtyPatrick had a similar portfolio of characteristics – plus a very thick/wide/deep mean streak that GreatBigHugeYaYa doesn’t seem to possess.
I can’t watch porn with a storyline cause I get too invested & end up worrying about the pizza delivery man losing his job for taking so long
Good morning ROM!
Wow That bot Ronnie came up with the goods just when needed.Thanks a bunch for sinking the bitters.
He aint a killer,but dont push him.
Morning Proverb.
Hope Juventus are up for it against Chelsea and we kick those Turkish asses.I really believe this is how things will pan out.At the risk of sounding greedy i also want liverpool to drop points tomorrow as this will put a downer on sundays game in their backyard.
More than pleased with yesterdays result as i got a soft spot for arsenal.Fuck the bitter blue noses.
If we dont put them in,we can never know what we have got.
So pumped up for the game today,but first i have to do some research in technological wizardry.See yah folk laters.
We are just a bunch of bouncing Busby babes remember…..UNITED UNITED UNITED.
hahahahahahah Proverb that’s gold.
fuck City, viva Ronnie!
ha. Galastaray and pool here we fucking come!
world class definitions…
AIDS : Ass infected don’t screw
ARAB : After Rape Apply Balm
AFRICA : After **** Rest In Cool Air
AMERICA : All Men Enjoy Raping In Cool Atmosphere
ADIDAS : All Day I Dream About Sex
BOMBAY : Both Of My Balls Are Yours
CAPSTAN : Can a prick stand thrice at night
CUBA : Caught Under Bra Area
GERMANY : Girls Even Rape Men At New York
PUNE : Please Use Nirodh Everyday
JAPAN : Jumping And Pumping All Night
LIMCA : Love In Mid-night is Cause of Abortion
PARIS : Please Allow Rape In School
RUSSIA : Rape Until She Screams In Agony
PUMA : Press Until Milk Arrives
ROME : Rape On Morning & Evening
HOLLAND : Hope Our Love Lives And Never Dies
USA : Under Skirt Activities (or AREA)
BITCH : Beautiful Indian Teenagers Causing Heartbreaks
PIG : Pretty Indian Girls
PIA : Pain In Ass
WIFE : Wonderful Instrument For **** & Entertainment
FEMALES : For Entertaining MALES
Okay, fuck me!
Enough of this…….rolf
On topic:
Lindy guard should be selected on the bench tonight
David de gea
Rafael – ferdy5- vida evra
Valencia – paul scholes – tom/carrick/ando-nani
Kags
Robin VP
That should be able to put the turks to their place.
Predos: 4-0 to united
Get in!!!!
Tom c cheers mate, glad you love it
ON THIS DAY: In 2010, Dimitar Berbatov scored a hattrick against
Liverpool in a 3-2 win for Man Utd at Old Trafford.
Classic player, will always be remembered!!!
Looks like I’m late the party! Late but not ignored then!
VIVA RONALDO!!!!!!
Think we really need to make a statement after our early departure from last year’s CL. A good drubbing should be in order to make teams realize we are not some Liverpool-esque team that are past their days, WE ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH.
And for all their atmosphere the Turks are gonna provide I hope the boys can put it behind them and focus at the job at hand. Like SAF said, no taking the pressure off, no cruise control. This is the Champions League and we need to start playing like Champions if we wanna be Champions.
A big congrats to Ronaldo is in order ofcourse. He made Kompany look like a damn fool, along with that smug prick Joe Hart, that hasbeen Maicon, that loud mouth Kolarov, and anyone else who dared come in his way. Seemed a frustrating night for Ronaldo as he couldn’t get any end product to his runs and dribbles but justice was definitely served by the final whistle at the Bernabeau.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqGtPZilRcc&feature=g-all-u
Everyone please take a minute and look at this fuckwad’s reaction. Where’s your smug grin now Hart?
I have a gut feeling Anders will end up the No 1 goalie at old trafford. having potential and talent isn’t enough,its all about the quality of the performance. Anders may not be the show boy,the big figure signing nor the media favourite but he gets the job done. To me ddg might just end up like nani or ando, all unfulfilled potential and talent. You agree how frustrating those two players are. ddg is better in that respect but he’s on his second season. better learn first or face the boot. that said its no wonder he’ll see more of the bench this season coz the complacency that cost us the league last season won’t be tolerated any more
David De Gea will be our first choice keeper. I’ve got little to no doubt about it. The guy has bags and bags of ability, can start counter attacks from his own fucking box, pulls of miraculous saves, and he does this all at the tender age of 21! FFS keeper’s grow into their roles as they mature, and this guy shows maturity beyond his years. He’s touted as Casillas’ replacement whenever he does eventually hang up his gloves (or if Casillas’ showing at the Bernabeau is anything to go by he could potentially push him out of the spot too!) Can’t believe how critical people can be of a young 21 year old GK. You lot are only too willing to rate TCleverly as the next big thing when he’s already 23, while most midfielder’s with true potential and ability tend to be a much more complete article than what Clevs is right now (again nothing against Clev i really like him as a player, just trying to make a point), while Goalkeeper’s take longer to mature and gain experience.
This is priceless:
City fanatic Liam Gallagher (a tad of a fanatic as bitters go) was kicked out of the Bernabeu last night for celebrating ‘over much’ on the bitters 1st goal.
Really gutted that he couldn’t be around to see the last goal.
What a wanker.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/liam-gallagher-kicked-out-of-bernabeu-during-manchester-city-game
On a more positive note Wayne Rooney is back in full training.
Where is the d@mn type editor when you need them!
Telegraph Sport @TelegraphSport
Real Madrid 3 Manchester United 2: player ratings from the Bernabeu http://soc.li/og6p2hW
Telegraph has been hacked!
Fletch
Priceless indeed. Thanks for sharing mate, totally made my day. Can’t stand this arrogant, washed up, has been, blue-blooded, ugly ass cunt of cunts. Cocky prick used to think he’s fuckin god’s gift to music, now he thinks he’s god’s gift to football. Absolute trash
Dunno if he’s treated like royalty and that two bit empty stadium, but he’s not at his dad’s homeground is he. It’s the fucking Bernabeau one of the largest stadiums, home to one of the historically rich, and biggest clubs in the world. Who the fuck does he think he is going around like that. Glad to see he was dealt with.
Haha. Fuck off Liam Gallagher you absolute bell.
utd_fc – good morning sir!
The Sun and The Mail report that:
- ‘Rooney has stunned United’s medics with his swift recovery’
- ‘He has been back in training for five days’
- ‘He is wearing light strapping to avoid infection’
- ‘He started his comeback last week with a light outdoor session and gym work’
- ‘He took part in full training on Tuesday’
I doubt he’ll be rushed back, perhaps a spot on the bench this weekend?
@DreadedRed
Hmm. Not sure we need him in the squad on Sunday. Never returns from injury looking particularly sharp and never really does well at Anfield either. We’ll be playing with a lone front man there anyway, so think we should just go with RVP, with Danny and Hernandez on the bench.
League Cup vs Newcastle would be a better match for him to make his return IMO.
Was a joy to see shite suffer like that. Hart and yaya saved their asses, but not completely. Is Barry shite or is it me?.
What a wonderful defeat city. Of course everyone applauds them as they are the rising stars and we are the has been’s hahhahahahah
Liam Gallagher is a bell end . Not because he’s a city fan he’s just a complete cunt anyway.
kanchelskis – that makes a lot of sense. it’s not as if we are short of options up front. I guess that it’s a case of ‘better-safe-than-sorry’ with deep tissue injuries, so a few days extra recuperation is the best medicine. Also, he would only be needed off the bench if we needed a late goal against LFC, hardly the time to make his return. He might try a bit too hard, and set himself back weeks, if not months.
@Redbilly
I hardly noticed Barry or Javi Garcia all game. Always thought shifting out De Jong was an odd one, and seems it didn’t take long for a game to come along where his presence would’ve improved City. He could’ve been put on Alonso and at least tried to stop him running the game.
I guess De Jong wanted more game time, and not just a role as a destroyer deployed in difficult matches.
Also, last night’s match showed you everything you need to know about Benitez’s decision to get rid of Alonso in the hope of funding a move for Barry. Utter lunacy.
@DreadedRed
To be honest, the way Liverpool are going, we should beat them with our eyes closed, never mind without Rooney. But we know it never pans out like that at Anfield. About 5 years since we won there. Really want to beat the fuckers on Sunday.
Galatasaray manager Fatih Terim says:
“Fenerbahce and Besiktas got famous victories at this ground before and we had eliminated them in 1993. We can repeat that success. For me, Manchester United is the most successful club in Champions League football. Last year’s failure doesn’t change that. I was there at the Camp Nou as the Galatasaray coach when they’d beaten Bayern Munich and claimed the Champions League trophy.”
“They have the likes of Robin van Persie and Shinji Kagawa who is a very special player in my opinion. We do not consider to use a man-to-man defence against their attacking weapons.”
“This year, we’re the only Turkish club at the competition and thus, there’s a huge pressure on us as a team. I went on to become a successful manager thanks to my players’ good performances before. Our performances so far this season are not enough to clinch victory at Old Trafford. We need to build on it and improve. I want my players to put everything on the field and win this game. The result of this clash will not be decisive for the group. It just will mean a good start, or a bad one.”
Kanchelskis- if hart and yaya had not been on , I believe real would have had 5 or 6 goals .
@DreadedRed
Gracious words from him.
Potential to soften the opponent up though. Let’s hope none of the lads have seen those quotes!
kanchelskis – we must beat them. It has been far too long.
It’s their cup-final, so we must approach it as if it was our cup-final. Winning is compulsory.
Come ON United!
Enough gloating for me. Let’s put the Turks to the sword. Dont want a slip up to lift liam’s spirits do we.
^ “their” = LFC
Just saw some galatasaray fans near picadilly Manchester chanting and enjoyin.really noisy.is it normal for cl away fans to chant like dat or they just wanted to bring hel to Manchester
Right then, lets rip em a new one. GET IN United!
I need this game to keep me from reading the papers which are pretty much filled with ABU rubbish today.
One piece of news: Sun is reporting Steven Gerrard and Nemanja Vidic are to stand together and lead a tribute to Hillsborough. Right then, there shouldn’t be a dry eye in the place.
Two great teams with great history, get on with the game.
Sure hope there is not a peep of offending songs from our end on the weekend. Would be sweet if the only thing you heard was their lot singing Munich songs. Why don’t any papers hier educated journos these days.
Here is the clip from the sun about the festivities on Sunday.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4545380/Steven-Gerrard-and-Nemanja-Vidic-in-joint-Hillsborough-tribute.html
OF TOPIC!
So fucking enjoyable it was to see Shity being totally outplayed last night. Real was so superior all over the pitch that I don´t know if I ever saw a better team. Only Hart´s fault that it wasn´t 3-0 after 15 minutes. Kompany looked lost, Garcia, well it says in the roster that he played, but I didn´t see him. The whining meatball had two or 3 touches on the ball in the first half. Fuck those minnows, back in the gutter where they belong. Stay down this time! #arabmoneygrabberswithoutanysortofclasswhatsoever
Ys 10:02- those Turks are nuts