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Lingard with first half hattrick on Championship debut

Jesse Lingard made his debut for Birmingham today and had scored a hattrick before the game even reached half-time.

With just 33 minutes played, Lingard found the back of the net three times, scoring the goals in just a 13 minute window.

Frederick Macheda, on loan at Doncaster, has also scored.

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140 Comments

  1. WeAreUnited says:

    @denton

    I understand your remarks about players, and we have indeed a lot players younger than jesse coming through, BUt even though he’s 21, it does not mean a thing , some peak later and in Jesse’s case he has matured now and peaking, 4 goals in a debut is not easy. we got Zaha at 20 years and he came from the championships.

    so Lingard an cademy product went there and put 4 goals, tha’s also amazing. I know you’re not undermining this haha, but just so people realise sometimes players develope later or get their chances later, if they show their worth they will play and only a fool won’t see that Jesse no matter his age is worth it, and AMAZING talent, alwys been and will be our future.

    don’t egt me wrong, I SUPPORT Kagawa, have been the first to voice my opinion about him and defending him. but if Jesse continues to develope, get his chance with us and play great, I would rather sell tsome players and get our academy the chance. OF COURSE, as we are Manchester United, for us there’s not such a thing as too many quality players and we need experience or we end like Arsenal.

    anyway, I get your point. as for Barkley, why get another academy product when we have ours? if we need Barkley trust me we will get him, unless city offers him the amount of money and he ends like Rodwell. we’ll se.

    the point is, Jesse will get his chance with us, and will shine! he and Januzaj have been our birghtest stars of this season, and they haven’t even played much. lets hope it continues like this.

  2. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Denton – Lingard is 20 and obviously, he and barkley are different specimen physically, that however should NOT be a reason to go around swoopping them. Lingard isn’t going to be incredible hulk anytime soon and only his size has perhaps held him back but over last summer, he’s got stronger with more upper body strenghth. His technical ability is superb, I think he will eventually break into this united side, he will.be more of a left sided attacking midfielder. Development is a gradual step and not all players will zoom up to instant stardom, sometimes you have to persevere and for me, lingard is worth persevering with. He’s got the right mentality and talent, he should be handed his opportunity in united’s first team regardless of size.

    If united are interested in barkley then they might as wel put in a bid, with everton’s ridiculous valuation, he’ll probably come for 30mill. I simply don’t think united should swap any of its talents for anyone.

  3. UnitedFaithful says:

    King Eric
    Academy players will always have a special place in my heart mate.Sadly not everyone turns out like Giggs Scholes but I still think there is time form him to improve.He is still 22.Carrick Evans Fletcher Cleverley came to their own in their early twenties.As of now with our striking prowess he has a long way to go to be even considered for the first team.Just think he can be used as a Sub when Wayne Robin are gone.We even bought Owen although he was injured for most of his time at United.

  4. UnitedFaithful says:

    Haven’t seen much of Brady to be honest but I watched a bit of Hull at the end of last Season in the championship and he looked like a decent player.We haven’t got any stand out LB coming from the Academy except Blackett so it would have been nice if we kept him.But I wish him all the best for his future.

  5. DreadedRed says:

    David Gill (now a club director) on Rooney being given a new deal:

    “Without doubt, I’m sure they would look at it. We had an approach to dealing with players’ contracts at Manchester United that’s stood us in good stead for many years and I’m sure that Ed Woodward and David Moyes and the owners will continue with that policy.”

    Did Rooney ask for a transfer? “I’m not going to comment on that situation,” he said. “I know you’d like me to say what I know. But I’m not going to. I think it’s important to move forward now.”

  6. DreadedRed says:

    Six of our Academy ‘graduates’ scored yesterday:

    Jesse Lingard – 4 goals for Birmingham City v Sheffield Wednesday
    Federico Macheda – 2 goals for Doncaster Rovers against Nottingham Forest.
    Robbie Brady – 1 for Hull City against Newcastle
    Ravel Morrison – 1 for West Ham v Everton
    Daniel Nardiello – 1 for Rotherham United against Walsall
    Magnus Eikrem – 1 for Heerenveen against Roda JC.

    Lets hope Danny, Tom, Jonny, Ryan, Fabio, etc are on the same page.
    Nothing like a Derby goal to enamour the fans.

  7. samuel - united WE stand says:

    King Eric – think macheda had too much coming to him too soon, he raised huge expectation after that goal and he has struggled to live up to it. Maybe his attitude and mentality wasn’t up to scratch at the time, he was more interested in the brightlights rather than focusing on improving most of his all round game which has held him back, being a good finisher alone is not enough these,days. He has had pointless loan spells, going to clubs with no organisation or stability, he’s never really adapted well to that and wasn’t given enough game time. His development has stalled, wether he’s got in him to make a comeback and be a quality player for united is a long shot, but football has been known to be an unpredictable game and players with the right characters and quality have managed to claw themselves back, up to macheda where he ends up. I have a feeling he would just be happy to make it as a premier league player but knowing the desire there, he probably feels he has another try at the united team. Petrucci is another case, all the quality but seems to be missing something to take him into the first team, maybe it’s experience and hopefully he will return a much stronger player from his loan, another player that you should persevere with and not get rid easily.

  8. samuel - united WE stand says:

    UnitedFaithful – Brady can play left back but he is more of a wide player. Thought he would have a first team chance but the standards required at united, he perhaps lacked that but looks good to be a player in the PL.

  9. UnitedFaithful says:

    With City winning the lottery Chelsea spending crazy money and on top of that the Debt looming large United needed to make sure they were successful on and off the pitch.That means going for The Tried and Tested rather than bringing through youth.If it hadn’t been for these factors or part of it I am sure we would have seen more academy players being given chances.But over the years we have produced good players like Evans Danny Clevs who are United through and through.

  10. WeAreUnited says:

    @samuel my friend, great comments once again!

    @unitedfaithfull probably 90% true about the city lottery and shelski bringing the money game.

    without that we would be giving academies even more chances.

    I think this and next season will be the season when we integrate youth even more, because Moyes will have 1 full season under his belt with us, and he will know 90% more about our squad than before he started. that’s why I trust Moyes giving youngsters the chance, and at the same time moulding them with experience aka the Unietd style.

    imagine we have Powell also, who has not featured that much, so that’s also a card unwathced! BRING IT CITY!

  11. UnitedFaithful says:

    Samuel
    I read an Article where Sir Alex talked about converting him into a left back so that’s what I was referring to.Sadly the following summer he was sold.

  12. DreadedRed says:

    Paris Saint-Germain captain Thiago Silva:

    “I was hopeful we would sign Wayne Rooney this summer and I am hopeful that we still can. It is clear his future at Manchester United is not certain. The player himself has made it clear that he would like a new challenge. If he still feels that way in January or even next summer then, once again I would urge him to come and join PSG. We are the most exciting project in European football and it is clear from the ambition of our owners that we are going to be successful.”

    Fuck off you fucking cunt! Ambition doesn’t equal success. Keep you fucking greedy mitts off our players I hope we draw PSG in the CL, and Vida fucking murders ya! Cunt!

  13. Marq says:

    @DreadedRed

    I wouldnt pay much attention to what that guy said. He was crying about not being able to join Barca a while ago

  14. DreadedRed says:

    David Gill on Rooney to Chelsea: “We are not in the business of strengthening our key competitors in England. You have to see our response when Gabriel Heinze wanted to join Liverpool (in 2007). We went to a Premier League arbitration panel to show that we didn’t commit to him moving within England for a certain sum of money. We wanted to keep (Rooney) in any event and not sell him overseas. You don’t win football matches with money in the bank. You want players on the pitch. Wayne Rooney has been, and will continue to be I am sure, a great player for Manchester United.”

    On the summer transfer window: “There is a degree of calmness. I have been around for many transfer windows and I can remember ones when we were under a lot of pressure. Manchester United won the league by 11 points last year. We have a very good squad. I believe we approached it correctly but fans always want more players coming in. They see other clubs doing business and think ’why aren’t we?’ But within a football club you have to do what you think is right and not react to every media pressure.”

  15. DreadedRed says:

    Marq – he’s a cunt. You are right though, I shouldn’t get my knickers in a twist about it!

    Can’t help it. The fucking voyeuristic tapping-up twat has my balls in a knot!

  16. Andromeda says:

    I think David Gill is absolutely right, I think we should move forward now.as for Rooney he should start concentrating on his game and ignore any unsettling comments from cunts like Thiago or others.

  17. DreadedRed says:

    TonyV on 7 to 25: “I think it turned out to be a very good number for me when I first arrived at the club as I was just given the No. 25, more or less. But things went really, really well. I played well wearing that shirt so I think it was a decision I came to in the summer. Maybe if I can get back to the form I showed before, why not? It is a good idea to start wearing it again.”

    “It had been something I had been thinking about for quite a long time. I’d been considering a change back and maybe it is psychological or maybe it is just all about a good-luck symbol, if you like. We get a lot of that in Ecuador, maybe superstition, and l hope it continues and still brings me more good luck this season.”

    So far, so good.

  18. UnitedFaithful says:

    DreadedRed
    Always liked Gill.Talks about traditions and the way we approach players and how United’s transfer policy has aided the club in becoming successful.This is a person who prioritizes the Club’s well being as a Footballing identity over the moneymaking process.Although i didn’t expect him to criticize our transfer policy but the quote about Money in the bank Doesn’t win you matches applies to our very own Woody than anyone else.

  19. Fletch™ says:

    Typical David Gill in the Evening standard.
    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-united-never-intended-to-sell-wayne-rooney-says-gill-8832635.html

    Only time will tell ofcourse and it doesn’t sound like he has any first hand information on recent events.

  20. Little che says:

    Just watched that vieo posted above of the young lad James Wilson, the lads got an eye for goal thats for sure. If things pan out well, we might not have to buy a striker for years to come, with welbeck, Chichi, Lingard, Keane, Henriquez all coming along nicely also.

  21. DreadedRed says:

    UnitedFaithful – Gill certainly did well for United, despite all his detractors. Funny how 80% of comments were against him, until Ed took over. Since then every man and his dog has wished aloud that Gill was still the man making a plan.

    The thing is, that at United a change in personnel does not necessarily equate to a change in approach. Our methods are NOT the result of any one person’s view,but the culmination of years of experience garnered across the board. Moyes is an example of this: he’s not going to toss out the tried-and-tested at United without careful review and the input of SAF etc.

  22. dazbomber says:

    Can you imagine watching a team that had RVP and Rooney playing together up front how good would that be ? Hang on a minute bring on the fuckers.

  23. Rukky says:

    Hehe gøodmorning mates, lots of excitement today. @wayne congrates man, thats just God’s mysterious way for u. Ok now, lets round up a fantastic week(lingard and co) with a win

  24. Daniel88 says:

    Extend Lingard’s loan … HELL NO.
    Get him back, get Adnan to sign a contract and loan him out somewhere he will PLAY every week.

  25. In David We Trust says:

    Damn its back how it was, had no probs using my twitter account.

  26. ashtheking says:

    Lingard cant get chance each week if he returns now. Let him stay at Birmingham and then he will be back with more maturity. Like Moyes said he will play safe at the start. That is why he is consistently selecting Vidic and Rio now. Let him settle then he will give chance to youngsters

  27. Squeaky says:

    What would English football do without Manchester United?

  28. In David We Trust says:

    denton davey – I can see him being RVP’s long term replacement, its most likely we will move hernandez on, so I can see him being the 4th choice striker next season.

  29. The One says:

    DreadedRed @12:07 on David Gill….I must say I’ve always liked David Gill (as our CEO dealing with transfers) and I’m in concurrence with his view/stand on how United should look at transfer and money in the bank. That said, I think getting Fellaini was absolutely necessary this summer and we definitely did the right thing bidding for him.

  30. UnitedFaithful says:

    Dreadedred
    Apologies for the late response.Haven’t seen Gill getting pilloried for his transfer activities.Not claiming he was perfect,The traits that set united apart from other clubs should reflect on it’s actions.Woodward considered united to be any other business and his transfer approach brought the Club’s integrity into disrepute.Sacrilegious to say the least.

  31. In David We Trust says:

    The One – it is not the fact united needed to buy a midfielder, its how late they left it, if they just bought him during his buyout clause, he would have been ready to face chelsea and liverpool, and most likely we may have beaten Liverpool and chelsea

  32. DreadedRed says:

    UnitedFaithful + The One

    When drowning in a sea of transfers, a Gill is like a breath of fresh air!

    Seriously though, Gill was brought through the mill at United, hence his seasoned approach.
    Ed had not the same education, so let’s give him time.

  33. DreadedRed says:

    If we’d bought Fellaini at the beginning of the window, we would have had no chance of getting Moyes main targets. He wanted BOTH Fellaini and Baines.

    Yeah, our ploy didn’t work, and it cost us a few bob. So what?
    I’m just glad to know that we put Moyes’ needs before our bank balance.
    Long may it continue.

  34. In David We Trust says:

    DreadedRed – I just think the way woodward handled the transfers, was awful, esp going in late for the bilbao midfielder, I do not know why the club just did not tie the 2 midfielders down early. Cesc was never going to happen, after losing thiago. So the club should have made their real intentions clear by signing fellaini in the first place. It seemed to me, Moyes did not want to sign fellaini straight away, as many think all he was after was old everton players, so he tried signing very unrealistic players like Cesc. Moyes should have just gone for his real transfer target, and I think fellaini was his real first choice target, I just think he was worried he was seen as taking his old everton boys, and it cost united a few points against chelsea and especially Liverpool.

    I think Moyes next big job is obvious winning trophy’s, but keeping rooney long term, and slowly rebuilding the united spine in the next few years. As ferdinand vidic carrick and RVP are all in their 30′s

  35. The One says:

    @DreadedRed, absolutely, I’m in concurrence with you about giving Ed a chance, and for that matter too anybody who’s new, so I have no issue with what happened during the summer.

    @IDWT, I think that it’s always easy to criticise when we’re watching from the sidelines and draw conclusions as bystanders after things have happened; we’re not privy to what actually took place in the exchanges between the clubs, so I wouldn’t jump to conclusion so readily. I’d think that if such a situation arose again then we could well conclude that the club’s approach is questionable. Anyway, I doubt that you’ll agree with me so let’s just agree to disagree on this issue, no hard feelings. :)

  36. DreadedRed says:

    In David We Trust

    I guess that most Reds are not happy with the way Woodward handled the transfers. Of course, it’s also true to say that most Reds (including those at the club) have no idea of what happened behind the scenes. I choose to believe United. We went for Cesc, therefore we were in with a chance. We tied Baines to Fellaini, therefore we really wanted both of them.

    Happy Derby Day Reds! See you all in the aftermath.

    Come on United! Let’s paint the town Red!

  37. In David We Trust says:

    DreadedRed – the thing is, united need a new long term LB, but I just think the kind of money everton want for baines is just way too much, esp at baines current age, if he was 25 no probs paying the money.. And the way evra is playing, having baines and evra in one team makes things way to complicated, especially when Moyes is not the biggest fan of rotation. This is the first time since the 07/08 season, where the club’s rotation policy was down to the bear essentials. The club also knows what its like to not lose key players, especially after losing such a great manager for their clubs. So there was no chance of united taking Moyes fellaini and Baines, that would have been taking the piss

  38. zaha says:

    I don’t understand why all these journalists think Young will start on the left when we have Nani and Kagawa.

  39. naijaReds says:

    nice one to all united academy players.

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