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February 23, 2011 245 Comments
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Gibson will score, im sure of it
Come on United!
Stoke City will thier battle today.
Getting excited! Come on you reds!!!!
oh fuck gibson
arsnoods 0:0 stoke
0 minutes
Shawcross is playing lock.
THE CL ANTHEM!!!
come on united stoke double! hope gibson has a good game hed needs it!
Gibbo to score a couple of blasters today. I bet that will shut us up for a bit,lol.
Come on United!!
Fantastic United!
Fanni at right back for Marseille. Hope he gets fucked. Though in fairness he does look a bit of a pussy. Wonder how he will deal with the thrusting balls into the box. May be a bit hairy…
12 mins in. We can beat these. Definitely.
come on united!!! le arse winning 1-0
Gibson has had a good start so far… ffs then when im typing it he gives the ball away haha……. Gibson has been decent so far!
Mes I know. Rod Fanni, I mean that name is just their to take the piss out of. There was a player in the world cup before last called Chici Arce, its great stuff.
Goat, always liked Turdo myself… Mate you’re gonna love this if you’ve not seen it:
http://www.midfielddynamo.com/players/players_bestnames.htm
Mes cheers mate that fuckin cheered me up no end. Fucking Bongo Christ dear o dear. Ars Bandeet takes some beating too. cheers again
Nani LOOK. Shoulda passed to Wayne then.
Mate, it’s fuckin brilliant. Had the whole office chuckling away with that the other week. Ars Banddet is a belter. So is Quim. Ralph Minge and the Wolf guy take the title though.
Smalling is ace. Some bloke was saying to me the other day ooooh, no Rio for the Europe game. My reply was whatever, have you seen Smalling play yet?
Loving Nani taking the piss out of that beans guy. Fart arse.
Carrick has been so poor. Misplaced passes. Pulling out of challenges. What’s happened to him?
corner come on lads.
What tha HELL is wrong with Carrick????????
kanchelskis you have a point. Hes not having a good one as yet
1 shot on target for each club in the first half
sooo booooring game
step it up in second half, please
We’ll be ok. We’ve all seen these before. Flash of genius from Nani, Wayne or The Berb and we’re all good. Pretty tidy so far to be honest. Seamus has been ok too. Only once caught rolling a spliff upfield.
Come on lads, we can have this.
Can’t say I expected a different game. We have a goal in us if one move goes right.
I can understand if Rooney and Berbatov are frustrated after that half. Nani has had countless opportunities to just put the ball in the fucking box and he has tried a zillion different things, none of which have worked so far. Which brings me to the point I say after most games where Nani produces one moment of brilliance to create a chance, it is not worth the countless other times where he just does not do the simple things right.
If I were Berba or Rooney, I would give him a fucking earful and just ask him to do his job properly, which is provide 100% service to the front men.
pass the ball to berbatov!!
Nani to dick Beans Meanz and get a great assist.
Would be nice…
@Balaji
I dont agree with that. Nani atleast TRIES to play the ball forward. I have lost count of the number of times Rooney managed to screw up. His touch, and passing hasnt been the best, so he cant be complaining too much. Now, Carrick. What exactly is the purpose of playing him? We are trying to win a game, and his aim is not to get his shorts dirty. Ask yourself, when was the last time Carrick tackled ANYONE?
Awful performance, but Im sure we will still win. The defence are brilliant as usual. If it wasnt for them, Im sure we will be getting battered every week.
In Chris Smalling we have the best young defender in world football.
The Muppet show has began!
@Balaji Sivaraman
What about the midfield?! Nani is doing well to hold up the ball. His decision making is poor though.
If you ask me it’s the midfield that are shite. The midfield should be holding up the ball. They are being bypassed far too easily. They need to keep posession to take the pressure off the defence and allow the forwards to get in to position.
At least Nani tries to do something diferent, surely if he loses the ball 9 times,
but scores or lays on a goal the 10th time, thats all that matters.
10 goals and 13 asists this season tells its own story.
Cmon Mike Carrick – Im a big fan, but your passing has been poor this half.
United very comfortable tho.
Hasn’t been a dreadul performance imo. This isn’t Copenhagen to be fair. We just need to put together 2-3 good attacks and the goal will come.
The truth
Getting your shorts dirty when your a defender or in this case a defensive midfielder is NOT a sign of you doing your job. You never go to ground. Carricks job is to make sure nothing goes down the middle and all ball have to be played wide by the opposing team. Hes doing that ok, its just his composure passing the ball forwards is woeful
@the truth- culdnt agree more mate. I find everytime im watching us play I spend the whole game roarin at Carrick! i swear i have midfielders on my U12s team with more intelligence than him. An absolute coward, wont put his foot in. Contributes nothing, cant pass, the 1st touch of a sex-pest, doesnt score, cant tackle. Hopless. At least that other donkey O’Shea tries hard. Painful painful viewing.
wtf is Man Utd doing? misplaced passes, no cohesion in midfield & smallin tryin bad long balls. the 4 3 3 is not helpnig at all….fuck
Come on Reds.. We can win this..
Come on United!
The only positive for me is that Nani is really going to town on Heinze.
C’mon reds!
On another note, Arsenal 1-0 up BUT Fabregas limped of and was replaced early.
Sir Alex at half time, not verbatim.
“The teams cancelled each other out.
I think we’ve got enough to win the match”
I think we did a great job in defense in the first half, and a draw would suit me well after 90 min.
We are really lacking creativity in midfield though, Carrick Fletch and Gibson isnt performing at all today.
Come On Reds!!!
I don’t want to start talking as if our players are shit and I will never do that. Even in my previous post, I never said Nani was shit or something. But I have always been critical of Nani and people who can feel what strikers like Berbatov and Rooney feel, will know that I am right.
Nani can be a great player when cross like the one he delivered to Rooney against Villa come off. However, when he tries something tricky and it doesn’t come off, he is just wasting possession. And in some matches, he does it far too many times without it coming off for my (and I would venture a guess, Berbatov and Rooney’s liking). I was merely being critical of Nani, not talking as if he was shit or something because I know he is a great player.
Also, yes, our midfield is not playing well this game, but this was never going to be an easy game. Carrick has been the weakest link so far but we all know he is better and I imagine being on the bench for far too long has done his confidence no good. He just has to get his confidence back up and start getting back up to his proper level again.
*crosses like the one*
carrick is not there to tackle… he only does if it is absolutely necessary. exactly the same as rio. they don’t need to dive in. stay on your feet and read the game. however carrick’s passing has been pretty poor so far and he needs to concentrate.
for everyone bangng on always about carrick if he was there to dive in on tackles and go charging up the pitch do we think sir alex wold keep playing him in games of this importance?
That twat deliberately elbowed Vidic after the challenge.
man utd have no idea what to do with the ball, fuckin shit, the midfielders are clueless
sorry i’m not really impressed over how we play right now. as most of the time when our midfield isn’t playing as they can/should, ronney have to fall back and help out.. and we are struggling to gen any finishes on their goal.
Here we go. Carrick, two or three bad passes going forward and he’s shite.
Nani, doesn’t do something amazing and he’s shite.
Berbatov, doesn’t score three, shite.
Rooney, wanted to be a siddy player, shite.
Seamus O’Shea, too busy skinning up in the opposition half. Shite.
Gibbo, I mean, he’s just shite.
Van der Sar, what the fuck has he done all game. Shite.
Come on Reds. COME ONNNNNNNN.
Jesus, how did they not score then?
Utd is struggling, where are our midfielders? this is shit
is SAF really there? fuck
good cut back Oshea but Nani makes another poor decisions
Oh yeah, Fergie, he’s shite too.
Come on lads. We’re better than these. Typical cagey European game.
It’s ok. Scholes is coming on.
Scholsey Scholsey
there comes the genius, Scholsy….come on United
Ahh. Scholesey’s not shite. Apparently.
chris smalling is going to be a superstar!!!!! really impressed with his strength, composure and ball control. brilliant. fact!
gibson off that was like playing 12 players because he was a liability, now we are ready to win this game
United are great! Loving it!
@ kev, agree but he should stop with those long searching balls, its shit
@SmartAlex – Get in there mate.
Come on lads. Let’s sneak one.
Headed away by who? The Berb. Every time.
Berbatov!
this ref is shit and these marselle cunts diving all the fucking time
Ah well. Seen much worse. Half way there.
We need our impact player Chica!!
0-0 is a good result all we have to do is win at home.
Queue the doom and gloom.
Thought we did ok against a team who obviously wanted not to loose more than they wanted to win. We’ll be ok.
Sad day for football.. total of only 9 shots in the two CL games and no goals
well im off to the opera it has too be more exciting than this
oh well could have been better, the whole teams passing was terrible at times. But we will be at home next time and I didnt think Marsielles had alot going for them. I would liked to have seen Rooney or Nani off for the last 10 mins to give the little pea a go.
All season i’ve never seen us play shit like today, SAF PAY THE 50K FOR MODRIC & ANOTHER 50K FOR SHWEISNTIGHER (hope my spelling is right), our midfield sucks
And Gomez goes on and scores
well something happend in the CL today
The game played out just as expected. I would’ve preferred a scored draw just to avoid the nervousness that might occur if they sneaked an away goal at OT. But I don’t expect that to happen, so this is a good result.
BTW, referee had an amazingly poor game and was too much induced by the crowd. But that applies for all home games, including ones at OT, so I guess we shouldn’t complain much about that. But there were some pretty hard and fast decisions that weren’t given for us.
Anyways, on to the home game now, where hopefully Valencia and Giggs will be back and we start seeing some crosses for our strikers to deal with.
I’m fed up with this shit. Outstanding defence brutal midfield keeping our forwards out if the game. We have to face the fact that our centre mid is shit these days.
Gomez just scored for Munich
Smalling was outstanding tonight, hes going to be a top,top, player.
0-0 is ok, we will go through in the 2nd leg, thats all that matters.
Good result considering Marseilles home form… but this midfield problem needs sorting out…. Berbatov was starved of the ball and only started receiving it when we 4-4-2
Not enough ambition I have to say. This game was going according to plan, but we could have attacked them a bit more. Everyone knows by now that Chicha is a great alternative for us when we need a goal. Why not play him for 15 minutes? Anyway, we should have enough to see them off in 2 weeks. As long as the big games we have until then don’t take a toll.
very poor from us, the only positive from the game is that we did not comcede but still we could not get the crucial away goal. carrick is shite and i dont know why fergie depends on him, he just cant tackle and he his passing is poor. Overall poor from us and i hope we can improve.
how rooney was never given a free kick and a red card I have no idea
is it a suprise, midfield and attack poor and crap away from home
Not to be hard on the players, but this is YET another disappointing display.
Sir Alex needs to realize that 4-3-3 with Carrick, Gibson, and Fletcher doesn’t work. He’s done this before, and it had failed time and time again. We’re lucky to get off with a 0-0 draw.
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I almost feel these days that Sir Alex is reaching the end of his career and seems willing to take the club down with him. He’s become complacent, delusional, and almost callous with his team selections.
Sir Alex is a legend, but he is NOT bigger than Manchester United. Not him, not his boy Rooney. Nobody is. Major changes need to happen this summer. Sir Alex included.
UNITED FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly in that atmosphere with the form our Central Midfield has been, I’m glad we have not been steamrolled. People might say it’s Marseille, but ffs Wolves,BlackPool,Villa. We all know @ OT we are a different beast. The left wing was crying out for Giggsy. Would have liked to see Obertan or Fabio given some time in the last 10 min….
Ball retention was poor 2nd half. Don’t know what Nani’s problem was staying on feet. Only positive from tonight Smalling was fantastic. Vidic we expect that but Smalling was brilliant we defend like that 2nd leg we should go through.
REPORT | Marseille 0 United 0: Stalemate At Stade Vélodrome
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/02/marseille-0-united-0-stalemate-at-stade.html
centre midfield is shit without scholes tonight. sick to death of carrick passing it sideways, dear me, oh well we will shit em at OT
could have been worse poor game but still fancy us to go through. our midfield is not strong enough at the mo!
What a bloody poor game of football. At least I stayed and watched at home instead of going up to the local and wasting my hard earned money.
This game proved to be yet another savage indictment on the sloth that is our centre midfield.
Smalling came through well.
Nani had a decent game even if the ref’ seemed to have taken a dislike to him.
Hopefully Scholes will see more pitch time over the next few weeks…we really do have a nasty gauntlet of matches lined up.
@Malcolm. Give me a break, will you.?
@Malcolm
When you call Fergie like that, I swear my blood boils. Delusional fucking go get yourself check for retardness
Well sir Alex got what he wished for. We all know what to expect from that midfield on its current form. He shudn be surprised with the result at all. Anything more and they wud have been playing beyond their current capabilities. I have made an observation, we all know carrick passes backwards and sideways but uv noticed he’s most compelled to do so wen he is under pressure in the ball. Carrick has become a very timid, spineless player over the yrs. He shows no character, enthusiasm etc. Gibson either plays an avg game or one so shocking it far exceeds anyone else’s bad day. All in all I think every pulled their weight except for Gibson n carrick. And this was very blatant in the manner they were often dominating midfield pre-scholes
I am in skeptical view of our midfield area. If we only rely on Scholes and Giggs, that something is really wrong there. The midfield doesnt seem to function well without these two old legs. I am fear for the future to be honest. Gibson doesnt seem to be a Man United material. Fletcher, this season to me has been poor. Carrick and Ando, not consistent enough. We dont have any other option in the middle, and that scares me. Reserve squad need to step up a rank, and break into the first team or we’re gonna need to spend big money this summer. I am really terrified for the future of our midfield. Let’s just pray that Scholes will continue for one more year, or maybe more. Amen.
Malcom – your first part about formation is okay, but the rest is utter BS.
@Malcolm, I know everyone is allowed free opinion in this world. But you know you are going to get burnt to pieces when you say fucking shit like that. I can stand people talking ill against Manchester United (not really but…) even but if anyone talks ill against Sir Alex Ferguson, it will make my blood boil. The fact that you even want us to have more and more success is because of that singular person. So, Go Fuck Off and Get A Fucking Life.
I have zero tolerance for Carricks shit performance. Yes, Fletcher hasnt been any better, but the latter actually RUNS, and tackles every now and then. Carrick seems to be confused about the way football is played. His side-way, backwards passes are good when we are already winning and just need to keep position. Theres no urgency in his play, and he is just plain out lazy. I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen attempt a slide tackle. However, recently I started noticing how he never runs with the ball. This is NOT NETBALL. All he ever does once he recieves the ball is control, look around whilst still standing in the same position, and then pass back to one of our defenders to boot the ball upwards. Not acceptable at united. The next 3/4 games are going to pretty much shape our season. And these fuckheads are still dishing out these kinda spineless performances.
Why Gibbo was taken off for Scholes and Carrick didnt I will never understand, but then again. Both players deserve to be shipped out based on that performance.
Could have been worse, but I was hoping for a win. Pathetic right? Not with the constant dreadful away display, I think not.
Mes, you need to turn your sarcasm meter on. Got a bit carried away.
“Ahh. Scholesey’s not shite. Apparently.”
He isn’t.
“Ah well. Seen much worse. Half way there.”
Marseille will be thinking the same. There’s no cause for doom and gloom but a bit more quality, ambition and in particular composure and United could have scored a vital away goal. Berbatov is out of his depth at this level and I had to chuckle at those saying Gibson would score before the match. A shot on goal and ten successful passes would have been an outstanding night for him on such an occasion. Marseille have their two most dangerous players to come into the team and it’s going to be another tough and tense night at Old Trafford. Some of us just wish United could make it easier for themselves – who wants another repeat of Monaco, Porto, Bayern etc? Just the thought of it makes it sick.
Costas – its the most inflexible squad ever with a HUGE PROBLEM, we dont have the forwards 2 play 433, and we dont have the midfield to play 442.
Don’t like 0 0, much rather lose 2 1. Not surprised by the performance, been like this, away from OT, for much of the season. Nani was our main threat going forward and Smalling snuffed out the French at the other end. I’m confident, we’ll have enough at home to see Marseille off. Hopefully, we’ll have more players back from injury. ps The ref was a fucking homer!
i have wasted my time watching this game… Fuck
4-3-3 Obviously doesn’t work for us. Rooney and Nani drop deep defending for our 3 central midfielders who frankly, don’t pull their weight.
I totally expect SAF to address our midfield this summer as it’s pretty clear we don’t have a midfield that can dominate. We need an enforcer to break up opposition play and fletcher and carrick just don’t fit the bill.
What’s happened to fletch this year? Really don’t get it.
A draw’s not a bad result away to a good Marseille side so hopefully we can get the victory at old trafford with our tried and tested 4-4-2. Tonight’s main objective was to keep a clean sheet and we accomplished that. We should turn them over at OT .. bring on the chavs
Malcolm Tesla is a wum. A wind-up merchant. His ‘father’ Nikola Tesla is best known for his many revolutionary developments in the field of electromagnetism. Malcolm chooses the name of the man who wound cable around a magnet, to sell electricity. He is a wind-up merchant. He is a wum.
is it just me, or do all the tv channels and especially andy townsend eulogize about arsenal, even tho it was us that was playing?
Fucking hell it is painfull watching this shite .We had 3 midfielders who cant pass 2 anyone in red we need MASSIVE investment in the summer .No fucking about no value or buying crap like bebe obertan we need world class players.lets see what the yank scum do about this.
BTW, I am just going to state this as a matter of fact and I expect to be torn down to pieces because of that.
Everyone knows that Sir Alex is relying on Giggs and Scholes this season to pull us through. This is because of a few reasons:
1) The PL and general footballing world is not as strong this season as it has been in the last few years. So, if Sir Alex is going to experiment around to see whether he can come up with something, it is better to do it this season and not the next when everyone will be stronger.
2) He wants to mix and match all the available options to see if something clicks. Otherwise, I am fairly confident that he will splurge in the summer. Because if dickheads like you and me can see that something is wrong in the center of the park, then a genius like Sir Alex has already seen it and will have a plan ready.
Also, by now, most of you have decided that Gibson and Carrick are shit and must leave the club in the summer. I am not going to argue with your opinion because you are allowed one, as am I.
Most of you also know that we have only two transfer windows – one that has just passed us in January and one in the Summer pre-season. Most of you also have made up your own minds on who you want – Sneijder, Schweinsteiger, Modric, Rodwell etc. etc. Putting 2 and 2 together, most of you will realize that we are stuck with this team until the beginning of next season when (and if) Sir Alex decides to spend money on new players.
I guess what I am trying to say is that instead of saying the same thing after each match, why not just get on with it and realize that this is the Manchester United team for now and will remain so until Sir Alex decided to do something about it and actually start supporting our shit players. Because it does get boring to repeat the same fact after each match because as I said, we all know it is true.
Of course, I am going to get beaten to shit because of this, but that is just what I felt because frankly I am bored of seeing the same comments after each game on this blog.
Much prefer this place when we do not have a game, other wise it disgusts me with the negativity
@FITB
And at the moment we don’t have the wingers to play either. The next 2 weeks are full of games like this and even harder and we have to use experimental 5 man midfields like this. Giggs can’t play every game and Park is 3 weeks away from a return.
But above all this, it seemed to me that Fergie was content with 0-0. I hope he was right. It’s a very tricky scoreline.
Shit:
Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson, The Ref
Average:
Berbatov, Rooney, O Shea, Evra
Great:
Scholes, Vidic, Van Der Sar
Immense:
Smalling.
I wouldn’t shed a tear if every fuck in midfield bar scholes is fucked off..
andy townsend is a massive cunt. someone needs to set up a facebook page that we can all join and get him fucking sacked.
Lies by any other name are still lies. That’s the truth.
Ok ive been out, how did gibson do
@baraji @ kash @90
okay, maybe i was a little over the top there about saying sir alex is doing it on purpose. apologies if i offended you..
i guess you can bash the lads all day, but fergie needs some criticism too.
i respect the man as much as any united fan, but his decisions over the past 4 months have been a disturbing pattern. mike phelan, assistant coach is a joke compared to carlos quieroz or steve mclaren.
sir alex could have brought in 1 or 2 midfielders in the winter, but he really does think that gibson, carrick, and fletcher are a quality trio, despite how much they’ve failed to perform together.
with the exception of fletcher, most of our “young” central midfielders would not even make the starting lineup in most top 10 teams in the premiership.
sir alex needs to wake up. he is not bigger than man utd. period!
Yes, we’re are boring, but we’ve changed our style of play. We don’t got Ronaldo, or Tevez, to inter change and break forward quickly. I’m 100% certain, that SAF knows the limitations of the midfield. He knows he has to buy in the summer lads. Just hearing our fans had problems with the French police, on talksport?
Utdforever – yes but we dont have enough wingers or midfielders to play 442. For me stick evra wide left with oshea at LB. Like I said fergie has left the midfield rotting for 2 years, and like a house when its roof is not maintained it gets worse and we end up having to rebuild faster and spend more than we bargained for. It is easy saying well we are in transition but who is the new generation to come in mature and take over from the current lot. Because has I see it we need 2 CM, has carrick is not up to the job anymore, scholes is almost retired and hargreaves seems done has a player and fletchers form has been woeful
Right, that was somewhere between droll and piss.
Expect us to go through at OT. Scholes didn’t add much. Wish we could see more of Chicharito.
@Balaji
Well i won’t beat ya to shit because you made some great points. Fergie knows our problems but he is loyal and he has given Carrick every chance to get his form back and has tried to let gibson build his career here. It hasn’t worked and he knows that. I won’t be surprised in we spend 50+ in the summer with some key players going out.
I don’t think were going to win the CL and I didn’t think that at the start of the season. But I do believe even with this terrible squad we can win the league and the f.a cup.
But we some changes… I don’t care if we go through a transition period next season if theres fresh young faces blooded in!
Sir Alex IS Manchester United full stop……….
talkintruth.
Waste your time watching United ?? Do you support the Reds ?
How can it be a waste of time ? there is alot of negativity on this site,
granted the performance wasnt great but we got a result,
Thats all that matters at the highest level of football.
Malcolm Tesla – it has nowt to do with the coaching staff, blame our players for not stepping upm to the plate and polay like manchester united players. They are to blame, fergie has limitations to he picks an 11 and its their job to put up performences
@willie
Not talking about 2-3 years ago, but we could have nicked this like we did the Valencia game in September. All it needed was a bit more ambition. We didn’t show that at any point after the first 15 minutes. And no matter what anyone says in here about our midfield, I won’t believe that this side can only come up with 2 shots on target in any away game. That’s pathetic.
Malcolm Tesla continues to be rude about United. He is a wum. He feeds of our anger.
It’s difficult to despise in a bland way, but I’m trying.
@Malcolm, For the last fucking time, NEVER EVER doubt Sir Alex Ferguson. End of Story. NEVER! If anyone doubts Sir Alex’s intentions for Manchester United, then I can 100% fucking guarantee that they don’t support this club the way it is intended to be supported. Yes, Sir Alex makes mistakes, but fuck me, every move he makes is for the overall growth of this amazing club. So, as I said, if I see anyone actually doubting his intentions one more time, I don’t know how I am going to react but I can guarantee it won’t be in a nice manner.
CedarsDevil.
I agree with you mate, the comments on this site are totally over the top,
Really pissed off, reading all this.
willierednut – that has been the problem for a couple of years now, the midfield is still built to much on our double winning back to back title success. I do not think the side has evolved enough since ronaldo was sold. And I do not think the midfield has helped berbs cause, he must be pulling his hair out the way our midfield has been performing. If I was berbs I would have a right go at the likes of carrick and fletcher because they have been utter shit, even though I have said ranting at team mates is not right, now someone needs 2 give our CM a right kick up the arse
@Cedars
At least Gibson isn’t blamed for not signing fans’ autographs this time.
Anyway, not pleased with the performance. As for the over the top comments, they come with the territory. Fuck them.
talkintruth and The Truth chose their names as bait. They lie about United in a negative way, intending us to react.
DAVE RED
Same here mate, off to bed before my head boils over with this shit. Hopefully by the time I log on tomorrow all these clueless idiots would have fucked off…
Costas – I wasn’t referring to you mate.
If you lads are ready for a new topic,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9404464.stm
Glazers confirm 100% ownership.
Seems they did pay the PIK themselves then.
Cheers for the smiles Costas
This board is shit for iPhone. Can’t keep up and get involved. I click on your ads to support you Scott sort it mate!!! Agree with so many on carrick In particular. He needs to take up those daily 6 mile runs that turned Berbatovs united career around. I’m sure everyone is agreed on his development of pace. Carrick seems to be losing a yard a season. I want the carrick that demolished Roma. Gibson I can forgive because he’s just a young guy trying to make his way but just doesn’t cut it at our level. Both players loyalty I appreiciate but carrick needs to get the finger out and gibbo, sad to say as a fellow northern Irish Irish bloke, move on for benefit of your own career mate!!!!
The problem with our team is too much mediocrity in our midfield carrick just a decent midfielder, fletcher only at is best is a decent midfielder, and gibson how the fuck did he make it through our academy, i’m begining to think that these days when Sir Alex is looking for midfielders he is only looking for strength and power, because he’s certainly not looking for technique and composer, he persiverd with until he was good enough to be a bit part player midfielder when he was touted to be the next david beckham, not he’s tryin to do the same with gibson when its clear he at best a premier league struggling team player, and in the process letting go of far more technically gifted players in liajic and eirkrem who will undoubtly be world class players. And now we are suffering for a lack of quality in the midfield, while the manager stated that we are strong in that area and the one I like the most “there’s no value in the market”
@Costas, I think we have a problem everytime Anderson (or Scholes) is not played in the 5-man mid-field. Because it looks to me like he is the only one willing to make runs past players with the ball at his feet and actually make something happen. Carrick, Fletcher and Gibson are all lacking confidence at the moment which means their passes will never come off. I feel it is almost a must to play Anderson in these sort of games. The sooner he is back the better.
@ Malcolm – mate, I’ve read plenty of mental comments on here but that one is right up there. Fergie will make you eat those words.
@ Ahjs – Sarcasm meter was up at 100% in most of my posts tonight. I’m just taking the pistons.
Honestly thought we were ok. Just missed a bit of up and at them when we got the chance. Tony V and Ando would have made a big difference to that game.
Nani, what can you say. He had an off night. It’s a tough one to call. It’s not that he plays crap balls. You can see he’s just in two minds. Like “I can beat this guy” when really he should pass. When he realises it’s time to pass it’s too late. What do you do though? Self belief is key to the way he plays. To get him to be more aware of the limit of his abilities may affect his self beleif.
We’ll be fine here. And we’ll sort the next three games out too. Two wins and a draw.
*He says only semi-assuredly.
@willie
I know you weren’t. Just adding my 2 cents. I really feel that it was more a case of not doing enough instead of seeing our limitations exposed.
Another game where the whole team was brought down by one MICHAEL CARRICK. How brightly did we start the game off?!?! But Carrick’s shit passing set us back practically and then mentally with Fletcher, Gibson and Vidic also starting to give it away. Its demoralizing playing with a shit player. I saw Rooney more than once not pass to Carrick and choose the harder option. Can you blame him when he knows that if M.C. doesnt give it away, he’ll turn around and pass back to the center back or the keeper. WHY OH WHY DO WE PLAY HIM? Having a player like him in the first team is the reason we couldnt get Aaron Ramsey and the reason we wont get Rodwell. He takes up space. Sell him to Spurs or Citeh [Barry and Carrick!! lol].
SRALEX! GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND DO SOMEAT ABOUT OUR CENTRAL MIDFIELD. I’ve been on here for about a year calling for Schweinsteigger to come in and Carrick to go. I now think we need another 2 central midfielders for next year in addition to Cleverley coming back. [Rodwell]. Gibson to go on loan.
It’s a mental thing now I’m afraid. We can’t continue to be this poor away from home in the sense that we can’t create chances nor pass the ball in a straight line from player to player.
So, if some of your predictions about SAF going on a spending spree in the summer is correct, we are looking at 2-3 midfielders right? What’s that then, 50Million in todays market? I don’t think we will buy anyone though, although we probably should, but remember we are as skint as they come atm.
Yet another disappointing performance! We kind of got away with it only thanks to a solid defensive display. Smalling is growing with every game. We do have a major problems with our midfield that has no proper ambition, vision and creativity. They were there for taking!!!
I couldnt give a toss about the performance, as long as we go through in the 2nd leg
Yeah – United are shit, Top of the league, great chance of the last 8 in the Champions league,
and at home in the last 8 of the fa cup.
God im going to have a sleepless night, worrying about the reds !!!!!
Surely everyone knew this game would be tight? Pissed we didn’t get the away goal, but if we play with the right tempo at home, we’ll blow this team away.
If you are in the neighbourhood later, stop in for a wee dram, CedarsDevil.
Dearie Dearie Me!! Gibson is a fucking STOOGE!! Carrick was passing the ball sideways all game and Fletch was just lost!! The Three Fucking Stooges!! Our midfield is just bloody shambolic!! I was just so fucking angry i could have bitch slapped The three stooges if they were right in front of me!! Our defence was put under unnecessary pressure due to the inefficiency of our lazy midfield. Gibson is not bothered to get stuck in and half heartedly going in for challenges…and so was Carrick!! Fletcher was always a second slower to get to the ball to do anything good the whole game!! Our strikers were starved of the ball due to backward and sideways passing by our CREATIVE midfielders!! Rooney was another one for me which bloody well should get a kick up his arse for playing like an overpayed clown!! How were we going to score when our midfield is just not up to the mark…WTF is wrong with them???
Oh aye @malcom you knob. Listen to what the king said about our Gandhi! And what about this twitter lark? Would these comments show on there? This just doesn’t flow properly on this mobular device!!!
Most of us accept that centre midfield is our problem. The frustrating and the worrying thing is that some of us (well me and my mates) were muttering about our midfield when Ronaldo was still around. This is an issue that has been going on for years. The problem now is we have lost all that time that could have been used to develop a new generation of midfielders. We have no choice, we have to bring in the finished article. It is a fucking indictment that the only midfielder we have that is capable of some incisive passing is on the wrong side of 35. I am convinced that the reason we have this problem is that Sir Fergie can not get the amount of funds he needs to sign the sort of player he really needs to rectify this problem. So all he can do is hope and pray that some-one comes right and that Schole renews his contract.
@Balaji
The sad part is that Ando and Park will miss all the big games we have over the next 2 weeks. They are not creative players, but they get stuck in and help us win back possession. We have to see the next 5 games through with what we have. So I don’t expect vintage performances at the Bridge and Anfield, but hopefully we will create a bit more in those games.
@Mes, The problem with Nani is that he has been at it for many years now. I feel like, by this time, Ronaldo had overcome his showboating problems and had turned into a great player.
Nani is an amazing player but this one major flaw is keeping him from becoming a truly great one. And the major concern is that he has not been learning from his mistakes because he keeps repeating them. Trying to beat a man when he can just as easily pass it, trying some trickery when a simple move of the ball might suffice, trying to take a shot when a better option for a pass is available. These are really simple aspects of the game which if he is taught to correct, then he can become truly a powerhouse in world football.
Ah, well, there is still time for the lad, but I just want him to learn and get past that sooner rather than later.
Don’t give Malcolm any air time. He’s been on here before. Most certainly a wum.
@ Balaji
there’s no need to get worked up, or question my patriotism to MAN UTD just because i’m questioning sir alex.
a true manchester united should be able to call things as they are. PERIOD.
we lost valencia and park, and we’ve been having major problems in midfield for the past 4 months.
right now, a 1-1 or 2-2 draw with Marseille in Old Trafford, and we’re out.
you really think i shouldn’t be worried????
again, i said i apoligize for questioning Sir Alex’s commitment. but he is becoming complacent, almost like he doesnt see any problems, and there are MANY problems…….
@ willierednut
huh?? this is my first time commenting on this site, although i read it everyday.
i’m not a jobless troll. are you?
just expressing opinion about my man utd
Even at times nani was frustrating but the lad seems to be positive and tries hard…Berba was trying hard too..u could see that…our defence was excellent..worked hard as usual..due to our weak midfield of course!! Our engine room needs a major service or overhaul..which ever one is the right one..only SAF knows best!! Please just get rid of these fucking horrible displays by our midfield!! Only when scholesy was on that we did start to play with more incisive passing and we did look a wee bit more dangerous going forward…
@Costas, Even sadder is that I cannot see Sir Alex changing the system for those two important games. Because we all know that the current players cannot hold their own in a 4-4-2, and with a 4-5-1, we get great defensive stability, but we lost a lot going forward. And it also means, Berbatov maybe given a rest or Rooney maybe played wide, both of which are concessions to be made which should not happen in an ideal scenario. BTW, what’s the deal with Giggs, does he also miss those 2 games?
I have a feeling SAF will rest Scholes for Wigan and play him in both of those games because that is almost a must. I am pretty sure SAF will not be pleased with 2 draws from both those games and will want to win at least one of those, if not both.
Costas – I think we are just going around in circles, its no suprise how united performe away from home. It is a little worrying that it is possible we will fail to beat chelsea liverpool and arsenal away from home, when we struggled at blackpool and wolves
Malcolm – Stop lying wum. You’ve been on here before talking shite. You said SAF should go. Yes, you’re entitled to your opinion, but saying Fergie should go, is the talk of a wum.
@FITB, The great news is that we almost always get worked up for the big games especially when there is a 19th at stake. I know it shouldn’t be the case and we should give a 100% for all games, but against the big teams, something does happen. Don’t know if Sir Alex brings in a bigger hair dryer or something, but there is something different about “those” nights and I guess that is a good feeling to have. Especially when the fucking FA screws us up with Loserpool away after the Rent Boys.
@ Balaji Sivaraman 21:55 – that’s just an ace post mate. Spot on all the way through.
@CedarsDevil 21:56 – “Much prefer this place when we do not have a game, other wise it disgusts me with the negativity”
Aye aye cap’n. Should be the other way round though eh? I mean, the bloody game is on folks. Support your team.
@ DAVE RED 22:01 – ACE (and at 22:13)
Folks if you look hard enough, there is still some positivity here.
Strangely watching Have I Got News For You showing a piece of reasonable artwork by Wayne Rooney. He is now dubbed Wayne Renoit. An artist. Erm…???
I will say nothing till after the second leg at OT.
..and you are also a liar.
JANUARY 26, 2011 AT 15:43
Malcolm Tesla says:
Carrick, Gibson, and Obertan are NOT up to par and need to be sold before January ends and Fergie needs to get in 2 world class midfielders who can fit in with Giggs, Park, Fletcher, and Anderson.
In the summer, Nani needs to go as well. He has done well for us, but there are some better wingers out there who are the type of quality for the greatest club in the world.
FINALLY, Fergie needs to stop f**king changing the starting lineup after we play well and win games. Next game, he might decide to start Obertan or Carrick, when they clearly can’t play sh** at the moment.
The reason why Berbatov The Genius hasn’t scored 30 goals already is because of the away games where Fergie shuffles around the midfield, and he can’t get decent service from a dysfunctional midfield. Not to mention the number of wasteful passes and crosses from the frustrating Nani.
And I really hope Park comes back soon. We’re missing the man. Badly.
The problem today was not Nani, It was not Fergie’s commitment or complacency.
The problem was Gibson( as almost always) and the three man midfield.
I think Fergie picked Gibson over Scholes for 2 reasons.
1) Important difficult prem games coming up next week. Scholes might be saved for those.
Fergie has a habit of prioritizing league over the champs league ties sometimes. Especially since this year is possibly no. 19.
2) Gibson had a good game against Crawley. Some really good passing and got the assist for the goal.
Fergie, has the habit of rewarding performances and wanted to give Gibson another chance. Obviously, lightning doesnt strike twice in the same week. So that backfired. Lesson learnt.
our attacking players were so isolated at times its shocking everytime we do not get a result that suits everyone this blog turns into a slaughterhouse,
i think its funny to read but remember we still got them at home
and that keeps me from getting mad at the moment
@troy well this summer is going to be a telling one I reckon. The glazers have to put thier money where thier fat mouths are. Literally we have to spend 10s of millions. Fergie always talked about there being no value in the Market. Well the markets fucked now. We could end up having to spend close to a 100 mill for what we need. A mf in the mould of a schwienstieger/sniejder theres about 30 mill a winger like Sanchez or bale 25 – 50 mill. A good battling defensive Midfielder would be nice too. What’s the progress on cleverly lately? Can’t see much hope for the bebes and disappointingly obertans unfortunately.
Malcolm Tesla is deplorable.
smartalex – Well done mate. Lets hear what the wum has to say now.
Anybody on here watch United in the early 1970′s – when we were truly shite ??
You would have something to bloody moan about then !!!1
Get a grip everybody, dont anyone think that SAF isnt aware of our problems,
he will sort it.
@ Louis
Couldn’t agree more mate. Its not just about winning games as some on here suggest, its about entertaining and playing with style – things that are all too often missing with this man utd team. It is breaking my heart to watch that midfield perform – or fail to.
Gibson has the turning circle of a trawler and the speed of a grannie lying down, Carrick seems to be incapable of anything other than hanging about, his passing is poor, he doesn’t tackle and doesn’t score either. I don’t know about anyone else but watching this shower of shite perform most weeks is beginning to get me down. What happened to the Utd way ?????
Too many players in this team aren’t fit to wear the shirt and it seems to be ongoing that a great defence and attacking flair are being asked to compensate individually for a midfield that offers virtually nothing at all – I know people will laugh but watching Man Utd at the moment is as depressing as when Djemba Djemba played – I am gutted
sorry if im wrong but…
all these comments and not one about why valencia will easily be back on the right wing and nani will RIGHTLY-SO be switched back onto the left…
simple as this… valencia does what hes supposed to do… runs to the byline and crosses… no fancy turns which makes him fall on his arse and look like a twat… simple runs and simple crosses.. combines with the fullback well and tracks back like a horse
nani is brilliant but he can be brilliant on the left too.. hes more of a inside forward than a winger tbh… he can easily cut in on his right foot and easily cross with his left foot… theres no problems there.. and these are the games where he proves why that decision WILL be made
VALENCIA ON THE RIGHT!!
NANI ON THE LEFT!!
and we will dominate once again… GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry if im wrong but…all these comments and not one about why valencia will easily be back on the right wing and nani will RIGHTLY-SO be switched back onto the left…
simple as this… valencia does what hes supposed to do… runs to the byline and crosses… no fancy turns which makes him fall on his arse and look like a twat… simple runs and simple crosses.. combines with the fullback well and tracks back like a horse
nani is brilliant but he can be brilliant on the left too.. hes more of a inside forward than a winger tbh… he can easily cut in on his right foot and easily cross with his left foot… theres no problems there.. and these are the games where he proves why that decision WILL be made
VALENCIA ON THE RIGHT!!
NANI ON THE LEFT!!
and we will dominate once again… GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are some very odd comments on here tonight over a 0-0 draw away in the last 16 of the Champions league. We all seam to agree about the Midfield, Its been a problem for a few seasons now. We need investment there without a doubt.
Got to say Smalling is looking like a Bargain, (Teves has only just fell out of his pocket.) What a find Sir Alex 10/10. Nani needs to stop diving about its very frustrating to watch from a player with so much to offer but saying that he’s improved 10 times over.
I think Marsielle were beatable tonight but Utd just lacked the final ball, credit to their defence tho who just seamed to get that last boot in.
Bring em on.
C’MON REDS
@Balaji
Yep, I can see a 4-5-1 for those two games too. I just hope that Giggs can play in both because playing Rooney on the left really limits what he can offer. And then our other option is playing Evra on the wing. I take it that Giggs didn’t travel just for precaution. He should be ready to go this Saturday. as for the next 3 league games, 7 points would be ideal. But on current (away) form, that’s a lot to ask.
@FITB
Yep. At the moment, I am not too confident about these two games either. We will need to play better than we have in any away game this season.
Right here comes the goat and Im going to weigh right in with a big go fuck yourself to our match day resident humpty fucking dumpty Balaji Sivaraman.
Someone on here criticised Sir Alex, thats his right, his freedom of speech. Dont come by just on match day and start throwing your weight around pal theres no fucking need.
Sir Alex has come out himself and beefed up the ethos that NO ONE is bigger than Manchester United and I have absolutely no doubt that the gentleman Sir Alex is that if he thought for one minute he was the problem he would fall on his sword. He would not let personal acolades and his own job undermine what he has achieved so far.
The poster made a point and you bullied and swore at him, I dont agree with his points but by fuckemy doo Im not going to sit by while some arsehole comes by once in a blue moon and starts ripping into a fellow fan voicing his opinion. Im here everyday and Im fucked off with the bullies on here, time for some fucking put downs me thinks.
Im off to bed – suitably angry for the second time in a week
woops sorry for double post..
@ Balaji Sivaraman 22:15 – I hear you 100% mate but I’m a glass half full kinda bloke and hope that if Nani’s progress between this season and next is as good as last season and this, and let’s face it, there was a jump, then I and all of us on here (doom and gloomers included) will be happy people.
@smartalex
Nice stazi work my man. You made me proud.
Malcolm
Never question Sir Alex Ferguson… if the board thought like you:
He would have been fired before 1992-93
Fired in 1995 when he got rid of ince hughes and kanchelksis and brought in youngsters
Not offered him another contract when he decided not to retire in the end in 2002
Sacked him in 2005 when we finished 3rd for the second year running
I will always have faith in SAF and all ‘true’ United fans should too… I just believe we new fresh faces and I know SAF has something up his sleeve.
Looking forward to Tony v return. Nani can play on the left. Don’t see the argument, for Nani not being able to cope on the left wing.
Dave Red, It’s like being in the middle of starving baby penguins all screaming for fish.
You either run for the hills, place kick them out of the stadium one by one, or try chat to your mates while ignoring the raucous squabble.
@ Balaji Sivaraman 21:55 – That was actually a good post it is all well and good complaining about our centre midfield but what we got is what we have. Gibson will probably play again between now and the dippers game and why not who else is going to fill the positions in midfield for the next 3 games?
I was surprised that Fergie didn’t tinker the team a bit more in the 2nd half, he could have brought on Hernandez or Fabio but on reflection rather draw this game than any of the next 3. Injuries to our wingers have fucked things for us. A very interesting next 10 days to say the least. Whatever team he puts out in the next 3 games we can’t complain because what do we have left due to injuries and Giggs and Scholes age.
united’s midfield needs a major revamp next season. the likes of gibson, carrick and fletcher are effective but we need a cutting edge, a creative player to break team’s down, we can’t seem to string enough passes together which is worrying, really worrYing.
However one of the players that would get praise tonight is chris smalling, for an inexperienced 20 year old player, who is only starting to play at the highest level this season, he truly was outstanding, powerful aerially and on the floor, pacey, technically good in terms of bringing the ball outta defence, tackles and blocks everything which shows he is following the monster machine from serbia who is vidic footsteps, he is improving his positional play too which is good, i’m excited to see him blossom into one of the very best centre half’s, he isn’t the finished article but will get there if he continues this way which i’m sure he will.
Some smart stazi stumps malcontent malingerer malcolm.
@Goat, And am I warranted to post on every one of ROM’s posts just to be able to criticize someone who questions SAF. Everyone on this board knows the kind of poster this Malcolm guy is, so why criticize only me?
I am not going to argue with you because now you are trying to bully me and show you’re the boss just because you have the time to comment on every fucking one of ROM’s blogs. I can guarantee you that I read ROM just the same amount as you do, but don’t bother to post in some topics because that is my fucking wish.
So, find someone else to bully because I am having none of it, and I will talk shit about Malcolm because I am pretty sure everyone else on this board agrees that his opinion 100% fucking wrong.
The right wing suits Nani for the simple reason that he cuts inside and shoots with the left. Hence his 8 goals with his left foot this season. But that’s a dilemma I will gladly prefer over having just one winger available.
I thought Gibson and Carrick were poor, but that said it was a good result and we could easily have had a better one. So I don’t mind.
The Arsenal win puts us under a bit of pressure in the league, and it’s never, ever easy to get anything after a euro away trip. Let’s hope the lads can hit the ground running.
DAVE RED, Here here, Success comes in cycles. The good times are recognized as such by cycles of bad. Since the prem era, United have never been totally out of it, top 3-4. Along the way we have picked up 11 league titles. Even recent years have seen us intermingling with Arsenal and the Chaves, sometimes them sometimes us. Makes it sweeter for me. Would be a bit dull if it was a done deal. We had plenty of draws in the CL and Prem when we had Ronaldo at his prime. Get behind the team and support them. Thought Fletch, Nani, Smalling were quite good. Seemed a bit tired and unsettled at times. Still think they didn’t show us much that couldn’t be overcome on the replay at OT.
Come on United.
@Costas, I always felt Nani himself feels at home on the right. Even his great performances last season (like against Arsenal) were ones where he played on the right. However, because he is more adaptable to either wing, that is the major concession we will have to make when Tony V returns. But I do feel that whenever he plays on the left, he loses a lot. Whether it is a psychological problem with the fact that he just does not like it out there, I will never know.
Gizmoj.
Trust me mate – football is all about winning – end of, trophies in the cabinet.
How can watching Utyd break your ‘heart’ and you be ‘gutted’
We could be the scousers – not won the league in 20 years.
Balaji Sivaraman his post might be wrong (which is an opinion) and I think personally Ryandunny is spot on “if the board thought like you” post, but to say he isnt a United fan and abuse him for his opinion is just bloody wrong. I for one in 1990 called for his head, I called for his head in 95 and 98. Why because I thought that he did build a good premier league squad but decided he wasnt the man to win major European trophies. Im pretty sure everyone on here would have called for his head once or twice in the past but to just attack someone for an opinion doesnt have a place here.
Ach what a load of old tosh. Is there not a haven for peeps to discuss the technicalities of the issues at hand?
I think Sralex didnt make any other changes because he was giving Scholes a chance to influence the game without breaking it apart with more changes.
I didn’t see the game apart from the last ten minutes and it looked and sounded a dour affair, seems to me though that Deshamps sends his sides out in the manner of his own playing style, safety 1st or if you prefer, dull as ditchwater. With that in mind we got a decent result given our general away form this season, surely Scholes was rested from having a full game to keep him fresh for Wigan away. Fergie managing resources again.
Ive no doubt we’ll have some scary moments in the home leg but if we can’t progress against this shower then fuck me, cheese eating surrender monkeys!!!
okay, guys. i already said i apologize for the harsh criticism of Sir Alex.
if you really think the best you can do is personally attack me, then go ahead and act like 7 year olds.
i’m expressing my opinion. i don’t think Sir Alex is on the same wavelength as most United fans, who know that this midfield is simply not good enough.
basically, if anyone thinks that playing a 4-3-3 with Carrick, Fletcher, and Gibson is a good idea, then you are nuts and need to see a doctor.
Sir Alex has played this formation time and time again, and guess what? we all ended up being angry at the end of the game, because it fails and doesn’t help Rooney, Berbatov, and Nani up front.
any sane person knows that the selections over the past few games has been QUESTIONABLE, and i have every rights to point it out
if you really think you can ride Sir Alex’s d*ck, even when he makes mistakes, then you are a child and need to go to bed right now. i’m just the messenger, and i know many other man united fans who are frustrated with Sir Alex’s team selection this season.
injuries have been a factor, no question.. and we’re still getting results, but we are playing terrible football and that is the main point. we can’t continue sneaking lucky results like we did against Crawley town.
SmartAlex.
FletchTheMan.
Top posts – worth reading, it would do some of em good, to see United
struggle for a couple of seasons, they would have something to moan
about then.
I worried about our European aspirations for years. I think mr quieroz helped us hone our continental skills now we have that ability we haven’t the midfield to execute it effectively. WTF?? I do fear our fate after the great man and wouldn’t doubt him at this stage.
@GoatinaUnitedShirt , I am pretty sure you are doing the same thing to me right now because pretty much every other poster on this very blog has called for Malcolm’s head. I can guarantee you that Sir Alex has made mistakes but saying something like that is very different from saying something like Sir Alex is taking the ship down with him.
Like I said, if you are going to bully me just because I am here only on matchdays, I am going to have none of it. I am not obligated to comment on every ROM post and I am no different from you just because I post on matchdays and you comment 24×7. If you don’t like the way I treated Malcolm, well I don’t have to apologize because I feel none of us have even an iota of right to question the great man’s intentions for the well being of Manchester United which is what Malcolm has been doing.
If he had said SAF was wrong, I would’ve let go, but he doubted SAF’s intentions and that I cannot take, not in any lifetime and I am not going to apologize for the way I behaved.
I guess that the reason Sir Alex didn’t gamble with Chicharito in the last ten minutes, is
to still have that trick up his sleeve, were we to concede at Old Trafford.
Our next game is against wigan and i think that is our most important game so far this season .why? That should show where we stand in the whole scheme of things. If we do not beat Wigan ( God forbid) or we put in another poor performance at wigan ( also God forbid) then we will know where we stand.
I will get stick for this but I don’t think gibson was as bad as most are making out. He made some decent through balls throughout the first half. Didn’t even really give the ball away and contrary to what some say got stuck in. I will admit carrick was poor especially first half. Fletcher is the concern. And you saying he is average. Well the last two seasons people said he was the first name on the team sheet. Short memories. He needs to regain that form. Smalling is just immense. We were poor in the final third tonight. But we will prove hard to beat and that will stand us in good stead. As already seen this season two defeats including last season in about forty two games. Musyt be doing summat right. What did people expect? It was always gonna be tough over there. All we need to do is win at ot. Fuck all that away goals bollocks our home form is excellent and we will smash the cunts on a european night at ot. Oh and to those who say they wasted their time watching it. Oh boo fucking hoo. Well fuck off and don’t bother watching then. Oh and tesla even before smartalex exposed you I knew you were a lying cunt. Seen you on here before.
STR – How about a nice post, a fluffy one, that’s going to make everyone happy?
I vote for one about Haley McQueen.
We’ve doing it all season. I don’t blame Fergie for our turgid displays, when you don’t strengthen squad, it starts to show after a while. He’s getting the maximum out of this squad and still keeping United competitive on all fronts. We all know, the squad could do with one or two additions, but we have to make do, with what we have now. I don’t mind fans being critical of the manager. I’ve done on occasions, but calling for him to go, after all he’s done for this club is bollox IMO.
It’s not like we’re fucking struggling in the bottom half of the table, is it? I would never doubt this great man, he’s got form for proving people wrong, including our own fans.
I agree with King Eric about Gibson. Definintely not our worst player out there.
Just read this and thought it might lighten the mood
The problem with Manchester City is their mewling paranoiaBy Martin Samuel
Mike Summerbee has had too much of footballers scoring overhead, volleyed bicycle kicks to win matches, apparently. Who hasn’t? What a nuisance they can be.
There you are, settling in your armchair for an afternoon of pure tedium, when up pops Wayne Rooney with one of those irritating goals of the season, and the next thing you know the whole country is off its feet in dizzied excitement wanting to see it again. Who needs that every week?
The fact that Rooney, a striker for Manchester United, did this against Manchester City did not contribute in any way to Summerbee’s suggestion that Sky television is biased towards the Barclays Premier League leaders. He would have been equally unenthusiastic if, say, Mario Balotelli had appeared after months of ineffectuality to win the Manchester derby in such a spectacularly decisive manner.
Divide and conquer: Manchester United’s George Best (left) and Manchester City’s Mike Summerbee outside their boutique ‘Edwardia’ in 1967
Summerbee’s status as a Manchester City ambassador did not cloud his judgment at all.
Sky only see United, he wrote in the City programme at the weekend. They certainly won’t be seeing too much of Summerbee after his temper tantrum over Rooney’s goal, that much is certain.
The least appealing product of City’s rise to prominence is mewling paranoia. Roberto Mancini, the manager, has been moaning that some find his team dull. Who cares?
Critics said that of Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea, too. No doubt Roman Abramovich would settle for a hefty dose of winning boredom now.
Every fan thinks the media has it in for his club. It never occurs to them that partisan leanings cloud their own judgment.
Boring! Wayne Rooney’s spectacular winner against Manchester City hasn’t pleased everybody
Summerbee, a wonderful player, should delight in the talent of Rooney whatever colour his shirt. Instead, he is so one-eyed he turned over to Antiques Roadshow rather than watch a re-run of a brilliant goal scored against his club. It would seem Sky are not the problem here; it is the sky blues that need to see both sides of the story.
‘The media go on as if we don’t exist and that annoys me,’ Summerbee said. ‘I don’t mind banter, I don’t even mind jokes, but the progress we make is being ignored.’
How true. Never hear a mention of City these days, do you? It is like Carlos Tevez has fallen off the map since he left Old Trafford. Is he
Wooo I just found out I’m gonna be a Dad that’s upped my mood
On reflection Im not as upset with the game as I was straight after the final whistle and I think with a little after thought and examination I dont think we did too badly. The season so far has panned out that we are very good at home but having trubles away. Why is this. For one we have a terrible situation where we cant dictate a game using substitutes like we used to. What I mean by that is Fergie rarely ever made the first substitute in a match and used his players with far superior fitness to fuck up certain members of their squad. Usually the fullbacks, This he would do by swapping wingers over from left to right and concentrate on an individual. That player would be fucked and then substituted. Fergie then often substituted in a player that changed the formation for example.
Take of a winger and add a central midfielder.
This forced the opposing coach to make as soon as he could a tactical substitution to counter the extra man in the center of the park.
Fergie would then make a substitution where he would take of a central midfielder (his new one adequately warmed up) and then add a winger and then the two wingers would gang up and shit all over the tiring other full back.
This happened time and time again and always gave Fergie control of substitutions and formations. It also helped a great deal that alot of players can play in a multitude of possitions.
This year however we have been in trouble with wingers. Giggs isnt getting any younger and when recently he played his fourth in a row against Wolves he shit the bed – too tired. Nani is playing more games than maybe he should. Parks been injured and in Asia. Valencia out all season and Fletchers beefed up a little and cant run like he did during the Keane years. It means that weve had to fuck about with un United formations like 4-3-3 qand 4-5-1.
Im not going to have a pop at the midfielders, some of them are over worked in comparison to other seasons we have just been unlucky with injuries. Sure there havent been that many injuries but they have effected nearly all the wide men. Even Evra cant be used in midfield as Fabio has been injured alot and so has Rafael. With Valencia and Park back I have no doubt we will finnish the league strongly, win it, win the cup and complete the treble. And all this fuss about the midfield will be forgotten. Doesnt mean we wont try and better ourselves in the summer though.
@Malcolm
You apologise then rip into the great man again. Granted you are welcome to your veiw as we all are. I’m certainly not one of those Utd Fans who’ll back you up with those statements. SAF Hands might be tied by higher authorities. He said in his Derby programme notes that he wanted to bring in a player in January but their Club didn’t want to do buisness until the Summer. Also most of Europes top players are cup tied so who would you bring in?
I can see Balagi’s point here and I also get the hint that you’re not maybe thinking before you write.
WOW congrats Rai. Happy for you. One day that’ll be my story too hopefully hehehe. Have a good time mate.
@ King Eric – He wasn’t but he’s the scapegoat for whenever we don’t get the result we want. He could have got stuck in a bit more with tackles 2nd half but nobody in midfield wanted to do that at all so he wasn’t on his own there but like I said on an a earlier thread. Lets all blame Gibson before the match kicked off. Regarding Carrick I think he’s got amnesia he’s forgotten how to pass forward and run with the ball.
@willierednut, That is the same exact thing I have been saying. This squad is not top-notch and the whole world knows it by now. But show me which other squad in the Premier League is as good, then I will shave my head. I would not be worried even if we have to face the likes of Madrid or Barca, because to be honest, the whole of Europe has declined from last season’s form. Which is exactly why SAF is making do with what he has this season before splurging for the next.
@Rai
Congrats mate. I hope you make him/her a red.
oh bad luck Rai. Only joking congrats, its not all plain sailing and contary to what people say its not all wonderful, alot of it is shit (literally) But like a horsey looking lass with big front teeth and shes chomping on you John Terry, it hurts, but you wouldnt change it for the world.lol
Rai – Nice one mate.
Rai – congrats
Mattbw7 – That’s ace. Mewling Paranoia. Mewling is a great word to take the piss out of someone with. I’ve never thought of applying it to City fans. Brilliant. That’s my response to any Manchester is Blue banter from now on. It’s just mewling paranoia.
Congratulations Rai! And what does Marseilles?
Ride Fergies dick? Tell ya what mate, you’re a wormy cocksucker. It’s dickheads like you, when Ferige does go and United stop winning trophies on a regular basis, that will be calling for him to come back.
@Balaji
i don’t insult people, so i won’t stoop to your level and trade insults
this is a f***ing blog, and i believe we are all passionate man utd supporters, so i refuse to go into the gutter. and quite frankly, i have a life and could care less about what some children have to say in response to my comments.
“calling for [my] head”? that’s laughable. again, i’m not as worked up as you are about blog comments.
i ALREADY said, i wrote that comment out of frustration, and do not believe that Sir Alex is trying to take the club down with him. yes that was a provocative comment, and probably unnecessary on my part. if you choose to dwell on that, be my guest (i suggest).
you can’t counter the points i made that Sir Alex is becoming complacent or delusional. otherwise, explain to me why he plays a 4-3-3 with Gibson, carrick, and Fletcher, despite the fact that its failed TIME and TIME again….
listen to his press conferences and post match analysis – it’s almost like he didn’t see the same game that we watched. get my point?? i am saying the great man seems to be complacent.
remember what happened to Arsene Wenger when he got complacent and clung to his dying soldiers? (Vieira, Campbell, etc).. and some below average kids (Aliadiere, Senderos). he failed to replenish the squad with new talent, and it took arsenal almost 3 seasons to recover and now they’re bouncing back.
MANCHESTER UNITED CANNOT afford to slip off in the near future because our great legendary manager got a little complacent (or delusional)..
he overlooked the chance to sign Sneijder last summer, and Van der vaart as well. In January, he could have brought it one or two midfielders, even on loan.
Hell, even David Beckham would do better than Gibson and Carrick in midfield. But he said his squad was “great” and there was no need for changes. WELLLLL……………
@Malcolm Tesla
sorry excuse for a trolling C*nt
Nice one Rai, I feel old my eldest is 19 and youngest 16 but she comes with me to OT
btw part exchange carrick for modric please
@Malcom Tesla look at my explanation the reason why Fergie persists with 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 is because you name me fit wingers and full backs that can allow us to play 4-4-2 on a weekly basis.
Giggs cannot play every match. Nani must be completely fucked, no park, No fabio so Evra cant play in midfield to fill in, No Valencia, Obertan not ready nor Bebe, Cleverley could do a job there but hes out on loan and also not ready. Rafael is often injured, Gary Neville retired. There is just no cover. fergie has to pace those players he has available and fit to last the course not just the next match. All matches at this time of year are vital, not just away to marsielles.
Cheers guys – they’ll be a born red
As long as the little one is healthy and we make it 19 this year that’s all I want!!! And of course I still wanna go on my away days 
@ willierednut
you’re obviously 13 years old or intellectually void, so i’ll ignore you.
SAF will have to go someday, i hope you realize that. and that does NOT mean that Man Utd will stop winning trophies.
SAF is the only manager most of us have ever known, and he is the greatest manager that the game. (if not all of sports) has ever seen.
that being said, he will not live forever. and Man Utd WILL NOT STOP winning when SAF eventually leaves. it all depends on what state he leaves the squad in, and who replaces him.
if a new manager came in with our current squad, he would have to make major changes, and HALF of the squad will be sold or retired. which will lead to possible instability. i can bet my money on that.
that’s why SAF has to really wake up and make major changes, otherwise the next 3 or 4 seasons could be consequential.
UNITED FOR LIFE
King Eric – I think losing anderson has been underrated by allot of PPL.
Fortunately his posts have his name at the top, otherwise we’d never know it was him.
Feeble wum Tesla has not supported United for long, if ever. Someone he admires very much claims to be a United fan, but runs down Sir Alex. So wum Tesla brings snippets of overheard tirades to RoM, hoping to hone his arse penetration techniques in preparation for his big insertion into his idol’s rectum.
As feeble wum Tesla’s idol only speaks shite, he will become fodder for future vomit.
@fergie is the boss
Again with my point about lack of cover in the wide parts if you play 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 you play one extra midfielder. If you CM cover starts to get injured then your really in th eshit because then Gibbo Carrick Fletcher and Scholes will be involved at some point every single match without a break. Plus the fact Ando plays his bloody socks off and has real value in his own right.
@ GoatinaUnitedShirt
you make great points. thanks for talking like an adult
at christmas, we all saw this coming and the man really had to sign at least 2 players in the winter window. or at least offload a Gibson or Carrick in exchange for a quality midfielder.
again, he said he wouldnt sign anyone because the sqaud he had was “fine” , even after the terrible string of performances we all witnessed… which makes no sense to any sane observer.
there was a time we had the likes of Veron, Nicky Butt as backups for Keano and Scholesy. the talent we have now is lacking, and SAF doesn’t seem to realize this.
that’s why i’m worried, and yes, angry.
@Balaji Sivaraman
Im sorry for my outburst to you earlier. I generally dont blog that often afetr matches as i like to get over the disapointment of the match so I havent witnessed Malcom Tesla that much before. He does seem a bit of a twat so let him have it. I was writing from a perspective of having continuous abuse thrown at me the past couple of days and I snapped. I appologise unreservedly and I hope we can be at peace.
Rai. Congrats mate.
Fuck me some people really are clueless. Just heard someone say spurs have better attackers. Fucking defoe hasn’t scored a league goal. We have scored twenty more goals at home. Who arte these fans? Everyone has their opinions but I would NEVER go on a radio or tv show and publically slag united. We have some proper idiots following this club. If all the other premier league teams have better attacks and midfield then how come we are top of the pile with key wingers out.
Tesla. What has four five one acheived? Err a great european record including back to back finals.
See what I mean. Idiots.
GoatinaUnitedShirt – I still say we should put evra on the left has it gives evra the freedom to get forward and stick oshea at LB
Oh and tesla if you seriously think fergie is complacent and losing it its you that’s delusional you prick. First in carrington at seven every day. Spends sat morns watching academy lads even when united are playing. Spends tue at crawley game. Wed watching youth cup. Watches reserves. Delusional? The great man is two years in advance of clowns like you and I would put my mortgage on it over the next couple of years he will once again have the last laugh.
You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. You think you know better than the manager? Us fans have opinions, that’s all Bob. I shouldn’t have called you a cocksucker, but I hate fans calling for Fergies head. You lied before, so that was red flag right away for me. Some fans have the same concerns, as you do, but we are were we are, in terms of personnel.
Again, you say Fergie doesn’t know the squad could be better? Of course he knows. You called him a great manager and then say he doesn’t know the squad could be better. Contradiction there, me thinks. Also, calling someone 13, is the talk of a child.
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Anyway you look at it.
@smartalex @kingeric @willie
you guys are pathetic human beings, to start foolish namecalling when i simply made a point. you can agree or disagree, but why do some of you sit behind your computers and trash someone you’ve never met like a bunch of stupid internet punks?
so a united fan watches his team produce yet another terrible performance, and makes his opinion known, and then you suddenly start to insult and call names.
you don’t own this site, you’re not the moderators. i did not insult anyone, i was not disrespectful in any way.
i simply called out Sir Alex and its PERFECTLY legitimate to do so.
i never said anything about 4-5-1 or 4-3-3.. i’m simply saying he is losing it, and that is my opinion. you can disagree, and that’s fine. but why the ugly name calling??
NONE of you can actually respond to my point that Sir Alex’s post match commentary for most of this season suggests that he’s somewhat satisfied with the current squad. In January, we were hoping for a new signing to boost our depleted (and failing) midfield, and all we got was Fergie talking about whether or not Giggsy, Scholes, and Neville will be getting contract extensions or not.
This squad is simply inadequate, by Man Utd standards, and i am not reading Sir Alex’s mind here. In January he said for himself that he is very happy with the current squad and doesnt need to make any changes.
@Malcolm its only naming calling if it isn’t the truth otherwise its just telling the truth.first i had you pegged as a troll some dumbass who pretends to be utd because doesn’t have the kahunas to show true colours.then i thought maybe mentally challenged because you’d forgot that in january pretty well posted the same shit except this time nani needed to be gone.
finally figured it out, nani has been a top performer all year and is becoming world class,then you suggest sir alex is going to bring utd down before he retires.2 totally stupid comments but they have to be don’t they malcom.the only reason you come on hear is for attention a normal comment or even semi outrageous might not get a response.this way people respond and gives you a sense of importance.think theres a good chance you’re some sad lonely bastard who jacks off to internet porn and visits many different sites being a wum,who knows you could’ve been jacking off while writing the posts.bet a compulsive masterbator “a” malcom.look if you want to be a loony tune and write shit to get attention fuck off and do it somewere else.
@Rai : Congratulations yo! Go forth and multiply more Manutd bethren.
P.s: Hope your wife is a Red Nut as well.
@Goat, Glad we got that settled. I hope it did not get too personal. I actually don’t like to take things personal in a public forum like this one.
The reason it got too personal with this Malcolm guy is for facts I have already mentioned. Imagine going into America and saying Lincoln wanted to take America down with him. For sure, all Americans will get outraged. That is the same scenario here. Sure, you can doubt Sir Alex’s team selection always, but, as I said, to question his intentions for taking the club forward is a whole different issue. Anyways, I don’t realize why I took it so personally because he is obviously someone who doesn’t understand the ethos this club is built upon.
Anyways, glad that is cleared up between us and there is no bad blood.
As for Malcolm, see, no one is bigger than Manchester United. But if there are two people who come close, they would be Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson. These two guys are the reason you even have a club to talk about. Otherwise, you would probably be cheering on some second division team with no-name players. Anyways, that is all I am going to say about this issue because I see no reason arguing with someone like you.
@Rai, Congrats Man!
im not gonna blame carrick on this one. I’m a carrick advocate because of his defensive capabilities. he covers a lot for our fullbacks that a lot of people don’t notice. but to be fair there really isn’t much movement in front of carrick and that was due to the fact that we were missing a true left winger. I hate it when rooney plays the left. its just not his position. i’d rather him play in an advanced CM role. once we get park, valencia, and giggs back, then we will see the real united, hopefully. Anderson would have played if he was fit. his driving runs into the opposing defense cause problems and is very useful in away games.
@Rai:
Congrats mate…..
@Tesla
Dude everyone has a right to give an opinion but when you call Fergie delusional and complacent, I suggest go read Managing My Life. If not that go see his reaction after 4-3 against City or when Scholesy scored. I don’t think we could have played a better midfield yesterday, and yeah we played badly…Suck it up…
Malcolm – Fergie said in his programme notes, before the City game, that he tried to sign an un – named player. Various papers had, different players. Some thought It was Rodwell, others said Ashley Young. This was widely reported by all the media out – lets. Try and keep up, eh?
Malcolm Tesla said “Sir Alex … seems willing to take the club down with him. He’s become complacent, delusional, and almost callous with his team selections. Major changes need to happen this summer. Sir Alex included.”
Malcolm Tesla is a name. Calling a person a ‘Malcolm Tesla’ will forever be synonymous with a lying, rude, wind-up merchant.
He asks “why do some of you sit behind your computers and trash someone you’ve never met like a bunch of stupid internet punks?”
Malcolm Tesla, have you met Sir Alex? You trash him here, I will never forgive you for that. You are a coward. Until you understand and apologise unreservedly you will be hated by people all over the world. Of course, that’s what you want. Well, you are going to get it. It’s war you want . Well, the war that I was in was full of death.
You may not comment in any way, without me running you down in response, until I have seen your clear recognition and unreserved apology.
To be honest, I couldn’t give a shit what people call me on here, but I won’t have so called fans running SAF down. He deserves more respect, no?
That’s right willierednut. And if a wum disrespects Sir Alex on RoM, we must smash that wum repeatedly, until they learn, apologise and reform; or leave.
Malcolm Tesla disrespects Sir Alex.
@smartalex @wayne did you see my second comment?
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FEBRUARY 23, 2011 AT 21:57
Malcolm Tesla says:
@baraji @ kash @90
okay, maybe i was a little over the top there about saying sir alex is doing it on purpose. apologies if i offended you..
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look, i already said i was upset after the game and apologized. if you guys really want to continue trashtalking, be my guest.
people who sit behind their computers and threaten people and talk tough and ugly are usually little children or punks who still live in their parents house and have nothing really going for them in life. not saying that you are……
In the ‘apology’ that Tesla refers to he also says
“fergie needs some criticism too… his decisions over the past 4 months have been a disturbing pattern. mike phelan, assistant coach is a joke compared to carlos quieroz or steve mclaren… most of our “young” central midfielders would not even make the starting lineup in most top 10 teams in the premiership… sir alex needs to wake up. he is not bigger than man utd. period!”
You rude cunt. That’s not an apology. That is not recognising that you were wrong to disrespect Sir Alex. Wake up or fuck off.