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What we need is a good performance and a win.
Really want to see Nani “tear dem apart” and show why SAF has put so much faith in him to deliver when given the chance.
Can’t wait to see us stroll out i the new away black kit too.
van der sar in goal
evra evens rio and fletch?? in the back 4 football genius at right back
nani giggs scholes gipson
berbatov owen
cant have a match without an Emily related video now can we
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqY5KnPtnhw
is that the line up ghtt?
yup
11 changes
cant see us winning with that line up myself..hope im wrong though
A strange starting x1 to say the least ….giggs and scholes both playing ….and fletch at RB!!!!…
what happened to playing Fabio or Rafael at RB? I mean Fletcher has only played there a couple of times if that and that was because an emergency.
i really don’t get that selection. Gibson operates best from central midfield.
crazy!
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Fletcher, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Nani, Gibson, Scholes, Giggs, Berbatov, Owen.
1-1
pens for Milan with Boca ?
i am slowly falling asleep ((
It’s a friendly it’s about giving everyone games. That’s why he’s made 11 changes. Don’t be suprised to see giggs left nani right and gibo and scholes cm
@ KVN Rafaels injured and Fabio played yesterday that’s probably why they are not at RB tonight!
probably??
I can see us winning this game 2-1…with both our goals coming in stoppage time ………
Ok that’s why there not playing at RB tonight! Better ?
does any1 know when was the last time we faced bayern in a competitive match …i think it was the 02-03 season wasn’t it?
Ruud scored in the old bayern stadium …that’s all i remember about it …..
KVN – Rafael injured mate and Fabio got a decent run last night. As Niterunner said it’s all about everyone getting a run out. Looking forward to seeing Berba and Owen.
Niterunner – Shit sorry mate, I only read first few posts before responding to KVN. I have then read them all and noticed I have posted what you had already!
Any links would be greatly appreciated here chaps
whats the problem with p2p links, Scott ?
@ Drew Vader
myp2p.eu
Its joke , doesnt it i mean that line up!
I’m not sure how it works across the pond, but here in America, the game is live on espn360.com
cheers
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch4.html
berbatov having a prob with the new kit…
i feel srry for gibson …made to play at right wing….he’s had a torrid game so far….
Hi king eric & GHTT, u dnt knw me but its always a pleasure to read ur comments. Mark my words we are winning this one. Owen’s getting on d score sheet today… Watch this space……………
ah it’s killing me to see our midfield playing like this….
Possession almost non-existant. Owen and Berba hardly got any action.
Bayern pretty much dominated that entire first half…..giggs has been almost invisible….
goodnight. boring football on the “tired” afternoon.
get tosic on the left, gibson inside, nani right
not a bad first half…evra and nani have been quality down the left esspeically nani. scholes has done brilliant considering his age but giggs been abit quiet…gomez? 30 mill? his sat in ferdiands back pocket for most of the game, rios a awesome captain, always driving the team on and having ago at the players if there not doing something right..any1 noticed how good at passing he is aswell and going foward he ussaly beats a couple of players..our closest momment was berbatov overhead kick..hit the post.
Looking forward to a better 2nd half. We need to keep possession.
Gibson is having a realli bad game!! out of position quite alot and not giving darren fletcher back up!! Nani playing quite good!!!
this is my subs i’d like to see..valenica for gibson..fabio for flecther..anderson or carrick for giggs
Giggs needs to go out …gibson should play in center and tosic on the right wing ….
Zero creativity.
Giggs has been an excellent servant for us but if we are going to win the title again he cannot play in the CM. He simply hasn’t got the legs or creativity to compete against top teams. Whilst Scholes still has his vision and passing ability he’s only going to be even more of a bit part player this season. Frustrates me to see Gibson on the right, he should be in the middle, pointless exercise to put him out wide. Nani nani nani, once again glimpses of class and then just pure shit other times.
I know we have fielded quite an understrength side compared to what we could (the whole midfield basically) but I really do hope we still buy a top midfielder. With it looking increasingly likely that Hargreaves won’t be back until Xmas time (and even then who knows what his fitness will be like) I feel we have a huge gap that needs filling, and due to this I don’t think we can expect to compete when we come up against Chelsea, Liverpool and even Arsenal.
Ahahaha quality bit of TV then; Ferguson “Nani, pass the fucking ball!”. He must be so frustrating at times.
Yeah he does get a bit gready at times, Still a little imature and wants to impress too much!
All the same for me he is playing well and looking a threat! At least better than i have seen him in the past!!
@Altonian
How can you be critical of a pre season friendly! Giggs has done alright!
What is the aim of Pre Season??? Get the players Match fit! Get the Players used to the Tactics!
This is what its all about!
Some fans are too quick to jump on players backs! Maybe you want Carrick on the pitch after he played the other night!! Yeah that would be good, lets make him tired for the real matches!!!
I’m not going to read too much into any pre-season game but hoping Fergie knows that we need a lot more in the engine than Scholes, Giggs or Gibson can provide.
Nani is one of the best players today.
nani is quality, has to start next season.
@Altonian fergie knows best, giggs is getting on and aint at his best but its only one game and still such a class player for his age
Scholes, “FUCK OFF!!” lol.
scholesy never learned how to tackle!!!!!
Paper planes all over the place
bayern’s crosses have been pathetic all game….
I hate penalties. I’m off to hide behind the couch
berbatov was sheer class as usual…shame that bicycle kick hit the post..
thank God SAF subbed berba!!!
nani has come on leaps and bounds what a penalty!! hopefully he can take this form into the premier league season
Nani what a fuckin penalty!!!!!!
short run ups never work ….pat
germans and penalties
Never lost on penalties those Germans! Sigh!
Great test for us. Can’t wait for the start of the season.
FUCK THE AUDI CUP!!!
Ugh .. Johnny Evans And Evra had to miss
At the end of the day we played half-decent and were a bit unlucky
i must say i am very happy about not conceding but still a bit concerned about our midfield.
Everyone gets a cup anyone soo who cares? lol
@Sketch Said- Ac Milan beg to differ on the everyone gets a cup bit
Don’t think they are too pleased to get a 4th place one 
I meant Anyway**
Nani’s penatly was the best.. Rooney should of scored. And Evra? Lol he just cant score for shit. I am surprised to say VALENCIA IS VERYY FAST !!
Fucking unbelieveable – when will we EVER LEARN eh? United have the nastiest habit now, that they can never finish a close game in NORMAL TIME. Scholes, Evra and Evans penalties – SHITE to say the least. No one can blame Nani now, that lad played his heart out. We still struggle with our final ball. The only ONE good final ball we had, Rooney did his Rugby league up in the stands shot yet again!
Who would have thought that Nani would skin one of the worlds best fullbacks LAHM so many times eh?
They are kinda Shitty-ish so they should be pleased to get anything.. Lol
With that kinda display they showed against Bayern they would struggle to beat sunderland.
it was a friendly, we had our 2nd team out with big players misssing and loads of young players out who done well so im very pleased that my teams 2nd/3rd team took bayern munich to pens!
Why weren’t our players on the pitch like everyone else to get the cup and congradulate the winners?
portugueseprincess
That was my thought excatly.. Didnt think Giggs looked happy at all with the cup.
And whats with Ribery not playing? Is he off to Madrid?
well good practice for the lads….and I really have big hope for nani and berbatov this season. Can’t wait for the start of the season.
Congrats to Bayern, they are worthy winner. They played their heart out for the friendly
Here comes the negativity. Only a matter of time until mancitychampions.
Hmm Bayern had loads of players missing too.. Anyway its a friendly but our ball retention has been crap for the last few big games..
WHat are peoples thoughts on Owens performance?
Wouldn’t look too much into it . It was a pre season friendly thats all, a chance for the lads to get match fitness and I think they came through it well. Personally I thought Scholesy had a good game. Don’t forget we were playing with a second string midfield, Fletch at right back and Gibbo on the right wing.
Positives :-
Nani seems to be finding some form and looks stronger too. Could be a great season for him.
Valencia looks a great potential. Fast as fuck.
Evans – Played like an experienced pro , the lad is quality.
Rio – Superb
Evra – Aside from his pen, he has looked like he is getting back to his best.
Berbatov – Class. Strong as an ox.
Owen – didn’t get much service but his movement is good and was willing to get stuck in as well.
I was reading the Spanish press today and it seems that Madrid have offered 80m Euros for Ribery which Bayern refused.
Dreadful game
@Dave Mack – I agree with you mate – forget about reading pre season games, it has been patently obvious from last season that our MF engine room is like a damp squid. We had the measure of Bayern for most of the 2nd half, but we have no artist in MF who can split a defence. Says a whole lot, when our biggest danger came in from Nani great passes into the box, but none of our strikers getting on the ned of them. Also WTF playing Fletcher at right back. We are back to round pegs in square holes again lol!
Even though it’s just a friendly, the team’s inability to crunch it in normal time always irks me off. Quite a few times too.
calm down people…what’s with negativity. I bet if we lost one more friendly game you will request the board to sack Sir Alex. What is the main motive of friendly game? to gain match fitness and try out new tactics. Chill guys and let’s hope Sir Alex has his starting eleven made up in his mind by now.
I have good feeling that we will win in style this season and Sir Alex will prove the media and doubter wrong AGAIN!
No one reacting ’bout the paper planes?
We won 5 pre-season games ( last one in style) and we lost one on penalties. I am very chilled and looking forward to the new season. I believe we have a great squad. Anyways, I have learned that Sir Alex knows best
Cantona 7 – hahahahaha – the jury is still out on that one mate, but we will see eh? I am not convinced mate, but willing to be convinced. I will be there to shout them on anyway, win or lose! I think Bayern players wanted to beat us MORE than we did them lol!
I meant the last one in China
Think that pre-season has been bit of a revelation.
Nani = who knew ?!
Owen = showing us exactly what Fergie saw in him
Valencia = again, potentially an awesome siging for us
I thought it was a poor game. Bayern on reflection deserved to win. but i thought Rooney had a chance to win the game – wonderful through ball by Giggs and Rooney receives the ball at a nice angle on the six yard box but blast it high and wide. really should have put that chance away.
aside from that, scholes is poor. he drops too deep, and sometimes looses the ball near his own 12 yard box. that causes panic in our defense. i really think he should only be used in the last 20 mins or so, or against lesser teams
Valencia hardly ever concedes possession of the ball – I like that. He also always finds his team mates with his passes – I like that too!
Gibbo is NOT a right winger, thats for sure, and Fletcher should have been in MF where he was sorely needed. Owen did keep getting into the box, and his movement is so good, but sadly getting the decisive pass into him wasn’t there tonight. I like the lad though!
Isaidso – We had to play Fletch at right back as there was nobody else. Sir Alex has said that he needed to rest Sheasy as he has played a lot of minutes. Nev, Brown and Rafael injured so not alot of choice.
Would have liked to have seen Tosic but I think it may be a while before we see a great deal of him. SAF still has concerns over his “light frame” and still needs bulking up more.
@KingEric, I think Fabio could have managed at least HALF A GAME. He is a youngster – no problem for him at all lol!
Is the next game against Valencia.
mufc the religion… yeah mate..next wenesday
Isaidso – Not so sure mate. He can’t seem to last more than 65-70 mins and he played that amount last night!
Off topic but priceless:-
Just been on football365 and the dippers are fighting with each other over Alonso. Hilarious.
Once again, our midfield is exposed for not having enough quality. I really hope SAF realizes that Scholes simply can’t be used against good teams anymore. I love the man, but his legs are shot and he has never been able to tackle and players know this….we missed a trick with Wilson Palacios, because that is the sort of player we need to give the team some bite in the middle. Someone mobile and fierce on the tackle.
All in all a poor game, and yet another indicator that while we are fine without Ronaldo and the cunt, we have a problem in our midfield and it needs to be addressed!
Yeah, our midfield that didn’t include Carrick, Ando or Valencia for most of it. Fucking hell it’s pre-season and it was our 2nd team against Bayern bloody Munich.
Valencia looks the dogs bollocks.
Last time we played Munich preseason was in Chicago. I was there – lost on penalties then as well. On the way home they picked up CR7 so it wasn’t all bad.
Come to think of it, didn’t we play for some tinpot cup a couple of seasons ago? Roo brought back a 2 match ban instead of the usual gut rot…
Its just a friendly etc etc.. But it’s natural for fans to find criticism of their own team, if everyone thought we were in perfect state that would be a bigger worry..
It’s easier to focus on negatives than positives. I’m sure that’s what the management do too, so that problems can be addressed and rectified..
For me there are many positives, but I feel we will be light in centre midfield against the big teams (unless Hargreaves comes back).. AND why are our right-backs always injured? Looks like O’Shea will play the majority of games there again!
But Valencia, Nani, Berba – 3 stars for next season
The lads looked like they were running in sand…
Devilton well its only pre season would not take much notice really. but I do agree the midfield needs more fire and bite about it because I still feel the central midfield area is short in numbers. it is best when the season starts we will have a better picture about the season.
Re MUFC the Religion: I know it’s preseason, and that’s precisely why the club needs to take action now instead of wait till December. Nothing much has changed since we were totally outclassed by Barca, except we have lost the best player in the world in Ronaldo…
But Ronaldo wasn’t what made the difference in teh finals last year. It was our midfield, and their inability to matchup against the worlds very best. The same happened when we got thrashed by Liverpool. Lets face it lads…we are a good team, but we’re still a player or two short of great.
I know SAF is rebuilding and this is just preseason but I hope his love for Scholes and Giggs doesn’t let him overlook the fact that they are a year older and will really be put to the sword come April and May.
I have no doubt we will challenge on all fronts. But unless we bring in another 1, possibly even 2 top class players I just don’t see us winning more then 1 trophy next year. ( and for the record, i think it will be the league)
Congrats to d whole teams of Audi Cup…yup we lost in the PSO but considerin’ the Asian Tour & lengthy flight we still manage to give the Munchen heart attack…talks still around whether SAF shud bring anymore new signings…to me we better dis way…too many new signing, create more time to adjust & adapt the understanding among players…in fact i think it’s right to keep the latest installment Mami Biram Diouf in Norway for awhile…
Drew – “running in sand”. Right. Not much time to recover from a long, long flight.
LittleMikey AND Wayne both missed what could have – should have – been easy goals, from almost exactly the same spot !
Valencia can run very, very fast.
Nani did hit the ball twice with his left foot.
Will wonders ever cease ?
ohh my….owen just escaped from serious injury…there`s a harsh tackle from the Argie Demichelis….he should be see red card even though it is not a competitive match (just friendly match)..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2564854/Man-Utd-0-Bayern-0.html
i thought it was a competitive game and we found our weakness and strength.
there are many positives than negatives for me. nani is becoming a complete player need to give more chances berba is bringing back his spurs days. valencia a good signing .
for me now fergi should not pick scholes and neville regularly. i am a fan of both these guys but now the time has come where the players like ando , gibson , fletcher ,da silva bros should be given more chances.
i think our team is much stronger and balanced than the previous season.
good game and least bothered about the defeat.
we need fletcher to play in the defensive role.hargo was brought bcoz we were found wanting against milan 2 years back.whenever Hargo played in the big games in the 07-08 season we were comfortable.we get lot of the ball against weak sides as they are happy to sit back,but wen teams attack our mid fielders we give the ball away too easily.fletch has to play the big gtames bcoz he is good at defensive work.
But if possible a Defensive midfielder would do.otherwise we will struggle in the big games.
Just to let you guys know that I phoned up the SUN newspaper to express my annoynace at their insistance on calling Sir Alex Ferguson, ‘Alex Ferguson’. I said the following: ‘I’ve got some news for you, Alex Ferguson is actually ‘Sir Alex Ferguson’, something that your bastard editors seem to forget when they write a piece on United’. The guy said he wasn’t best pleased that I referred to them as bastards, to which I replid: ‘Well then don’t incorrectly refer to Sir Alex Ferguson as Alex Ferguson’. I felt it necessary to make that point – fucking disrespectful cunts. They are the only newspaper to refer to him as that.
@Devilton, couldn’t agree with you more mate! Our MF does not hold up to playing against the very top teams. Top teams can find so much space and can overwhelm us in MF. Pre Season or not, it is happening with all too frequent regularity, and was seen a lot during the last 2 seasons. Truly wish we had those 2 great players you talked about LOL! For the record, unlike you, I will be surprised if we win the PL for 4th time with that MF and the final pass all too often absent. I hope we can though!
fergie plzzz sign a defensive mid.pllzzzzz
I see the Sun is reporting we will launch a £35million bid for Ribery in 2 weeks. Ribery atm doesn’t want to push for a transfer as he is due a Loyalty bonus in 2 weeks time but once he gets that he will hand a transfer request in.
Seems that maybe by enquiring once and then not pushing it after being told no may have been a master stroke. If a transfer request is put in they are apparently willing to take less from us as we have been respectful where as both Real and Chelsea have been told no and have kept putting in bids (I hear as well Real have done what they are doing with Alonso and did with Villa and putting in one bid, having it turned down and then a few weeks later putting in a Lower bid as if the first bid was simply to unsettle a player) and have both apparently spoken or leaked stories to the media. Bayern will apparently keep asking for £80mill from Real and Chelsea and will ask £50mill from us. No doubt we would get an agreement in between the 35mill and the 50mill mark. Still maybe a little high but much better than it being over £50mill
Wakey
If real have failed with a bid in excess of 40 million and he wants to go there,is SAF a fool to bid for him wen he wants to play for madrid.
we have half a dozen wingers.rather go for a CDM .that is what we need to control games
I think our midfield frailties are being blown out of proportion, even if only slightly.
The only reason our midfield looked frail last night, and indeed in the CL final was the absence of Fletch from his normal position. He us our engine room, he is our new Keane. And though we don’t have much cover for him, I like the De Laet, and think he can do a job in case DF needs a rest. And lets remain positive about Hargo. If he can come back by Oct-Nov, we have one of the best midfields in the League, albeit not as threatening as Barca’s, but still pretty robust.
But if, and this is a big if, Anderson-son can up his game suddenly, like Ronny did 3 seasons ago, and find a bit of consistency with his through balls, even the Catalonians will be biting our dust! He can be our lynchpin, just hope he steps up!!
Valencia looks good from wat we’ve seen so far, strong & fast. Nani looks to be growing in confidence as well, looking forward to see Nani on the left & Valencia on the right! When will the day come when we can see Hargreaves, Carrick holding deep, Nani & Valencia bombing the flanks, with Rooney in the hole and Berba out front.
Hargreaves breaking up an attack, passes to Carrick, who delivers a long raking ball down to the flank for Valencia to pick up. Valencia drifts past the defender and picks out a perfect cross to Berbatov at the centre, who in turn, lays it down with the most delicate of touches for Rooney to smack home!
Ribery will be surplus, but as Hughes or somebody said, you can’t have too many good players on your side.
And remember Park and Valencia BOTH are supposed to be players who do very well when played through the centre. Both play a central role for their national teams, and Valencia scores a fair few for Ecuador, as does Park for SK. Wouldn’t be bad idea to get a left winger like Ribery, pair him up with Nani on the right, with Rooney and Owen, or Berba and Macheda in the middle, we have a killer combo…
off topic: looks like Dinho did pretty neetly for AC though they still lost… he is one plyaer outside United whom i really want to do well. He epitomises everything great about the game. At least on the field.
Anon
Agreed mate.We have done badly wen fletch has been missing but if you look carefully neither do we have a proper defensive mid nor an attacking one.all the players are CM not CAM or CDM.except hargo who is a proper defensive mid.thats why we also have to rely on our Wing play a lot more.i have confidence in valencia and nani
Kings – Ha ha nice one fella. Show some fucking respect you cunts!
The Ribery bid may have some legs. It is all over the rags this morning. Notive he was sat behind Sir Bobby last night.
Anon – Spot on about the midfield mate. people need to relax. It was overpowered against the dippers and Barca as they were both “off” days. When else has it been overpowered? Like you say Fletch will be the new Keane. For fuck sake last night we were missing Fletch in the DM role, Carrick, Valencia and Park. Also Gibbo who is good enough was out on the flank. If Rio wasn’t such a good defender he would make a great holding midfielder!
King Eric – Hello mate. Do you think there’s some substance to the Ribery rumour then?
Kings – Not sure mate. It is just someone on here yesterday was convinced it was happening then lo and behold its in all the papers. Personally I don’t see it as we have bought enough wingers and I don’t particularly like the little cunt.
Funniest thing is the dippers arguing on, I think, the Mail site over Alonso. Trying to convince themselves that Michael Turner and Cattermole will be adequate replacement for Alonso! Even funnier is someone from the media on talkshite this morning said that they will fall out of the top four. Furious they were!!
King Eric – I don’t like the little cunt either because of his love of Madrid, in fact, anyone who declares their love for that club immediately loses my respect. Silly deluded dipper cunts. I cannot understand the fuss with Cattermole to be honest, I think he is just an average Premiership player. It would be funny if they fell out of the top 4, but unfortunately I cannot see that happening as they will more than likely finish in the top 3. Arsenal will be the likely team to finish out of the top 4 I reckon, probably making way for the massive club known as Citeh. You can just imagine it can’t you, they will truly believe they are one step away from greatness if they achieve that this season!
Methink we need a mobile yet creative MFer; Yaya toure’ll fit d bill.