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Scott is the editor of Red Matters - 50 Years of Supporting Manchester United and an author of Play Like Fergie's Boys and Not Nineteen Forever. He writes for ESPN, The Metro and Bleacher Report. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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  1. denton davey says:

    manuminati @ 12:38: “saying say the amount Barca spend on transfer is similar to ours is incorrect. Just check thier trasfer record since,at least from 2007″

    Good intervention. I’m not sure that all your figures are exactly correct – what’s your source ? – but the overall tendency for them to spend big AND pay very, very big wages still comes through clearly.

    There’s another point to be mentioned in this context: both Barcelona and RM get a “stardust discount” as players like Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil and Fibreglas and Pique and, of course, CR7 all made it clear that they would only go to one of those clubs. In a supply/demand equation, that demand undercuts the seller’s bargaining power and give the buyer much more “flexibility” in meeting the player’s outrageous wage-demands.

    In this regard, the example of CR7 is a great one to ponder: sure UTD got 80 million but this is a true world-class difference-maker who was just entering his prime years; he’s done even better than anyone reasonably expected AND he’s paid so much that I wouldn’t be surprised that part of the Spanish economy’s problems can be related to his weekly wage ! In a real “free market” CR7 was worth at least twice what TheVirus paid for him – and he’s been the one who pocketed the difference. Not bad if you can get it, eh ?

  2. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 12:46: “That’s a point most fans don’t take into account,want the 40mill rentboys then bitch about ticket prices can’t have both and obviously are connected.”

    EXACTLY !

  3. denton davey says:

    Costas @ 13:05: “unless there’s a salary cap, things will get more and more inflated.”

    Maybe; maybe not.

    I’m not expecting the FIFA “fair play rules” to have much impact since the “re=branding” of The Wastelands showed how feeble these rules are BUT what I am expecting is going to have a very big impact is the global financial crunch. Only those clubs – ManShitty and CSKALondon – with sugar-daddies who have virtually bottomless pockets are going to be immune from the meltdown. UTD’s relative “prudence” in keeping a tight rein on wages will surely play in our favour; same goes for Bayern Munich and TheArse, both of which are pretty-tightly run business operations. Those clubs which are over-extended are living in a fool’s paradise.

    BOTH TheVirus and Barcelona are heavily indebted AND pay outrageous salaries, with very low tax rates, in a country that has lost its credibility among bankers/lenders. It would seem impossible that these larger forces – and their zero-interest bank loans – won’t come into play and when they do it won’t just be ChickenLittle who shouts that the sky is falling in.

  4. Manuminati says:

    @denton davey
    I got most of them from this link=> https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ajm7FLwxa9txdFJpcS1pWXVPRTNTdWpkcUVXck9PTGc&gid=0
    it contains their transfer from 1973-2011.

    Your point about the Ronaldo and other of the Spanish giants transfer deal=spot on..

  5. Mr C says:

    I for one was glad that we didn’t sign Wes. If players want to join primarily for money reasons then they can fuck off. We’ve always been better than that and most players are paid far too much already…TV money and foreign billionaires have skewed the market and ticket prices way beyond that which is reasonable to ask of ordinary punters.

    Football club finances defy the laws of gravity and the sooner the or later the whole nonsense will come crashing taking one or two few big clubs down on the way. Let’s just hope its not us. Only then, perhaps, will sanity prevail. I mean, just how many oil rich despots or dodgy mafio-ski types are out there to keep the bubble afloat…

  6. Fred says:

    Evra’s reaction to Obertan’s comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va-dPnbfDY0

  7. Fred says:

    LOL oh snap, wrong thread! :lol:

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