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busy times for Scott these days…
it is so difficult to read all of his articles these days..
i try to but it’s impossible..
i will try not to fall asleep during the game today.. United, help me please!
anyone have a good link to watch the match on?
it would be greatly appreciated
Anyone know if I can listen to the commentary of the match somewhere. Don’t have an internet connection fast enough to watch any online streaming…
@ Mahesh
0 chance i think, mate ..
Moya, Miguel, Alexis, Maduro, Mathieu, Joaquín, Baraja, Albelda, Mata, Silva and Zigic
any one know any decent live streams with english commentary??
cheers
foster, da laet ferdiand evans evra, valenica carrick flecther tosic, rooney owen is the line up i think..silva aint starting for valenica!
watch the game here, follow the links and click on the telly on the right
myp2p.eu
Mclarenf1mp4 [pass=aberdeenfc]
Certain 05-08-2009 21:00 23:00
first link on myp2p
MuTv
It sounds this would be our best chance to steal D.silva out from valencia .
Any idea whats the line up tonight?
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch1.html
watching it live now guys
ustream.tv!
please anyone who knows the full line up should let us know
Cant see any Football on the iraqlink??
Foster
De laet Evans Rio Evra
Valencia Fletch Carrick Tosic
Rooney Owen
fucking live stream
better of go to sleep
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6637376
no alive links at the moment..
goodnight
heres a good link…
http://www.justin.tv/vip_sport_1
All the links are sucking huge Cajones
try soccertvlive.net
http://www.atdhe.net/8344/watch-valencia-cf-vs-manchester-united
try that, good pic
great ball by El Blanco, unlucky finish from the welsh goal thief
damn…this link is shut down….:(
Any one watching d match should please give us updates
watching ustream on http://www.soccertvlive.net
click on Match from list and alternate from streams…..
easy peasy lemon squeezie
Owen just missed a fucking sitter…..
http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/detv9 in foreign but good pic
Just went through the channels how comes the Dippers channel shows there friendlys for free? It’s 20mins gone and quite surprisingly they aren’t losing…..wankers!!
they just hit the bar after Carrick dropped a bollock
owen missed another sitter
Only player to come out of this first half pwerformance is De laap. He is fucking immense. De Laap can tackle with precision, has real speed, can keep the ball, beat the defence and cross, something Valencia cannot seem to do against the 2 BIG teams he has played – Bayern and Valencia. Our MF is fucking woeful – sorry, they are pedestrian to the extreme. Tosic is NOT Man United material, and if we have to depend on Rooney to gwet the goals, WE ARE FUCKED. I don’t care if you all come down on me, but the truth will out this season.
Opinions after first half ….we are cruising and giving the younger lads a run out ….need to up the tempo second half to finish them off….Owen faded end of first half
good first half…da laet, what a player, his had 2 games and been quality in all of them, both going foward and defending…tosic aswell, briolliant buy from fergie, think he might have to be on my left wing for the new season his impressed me that much in all of his games
I know that it seems to be wrong for us to criticise the team but I have to say where is the energy in our midfield? and we can’t seem to put more than 4 passes together. We are playing against a team that just about started their pre-season! at home!
Sorry but that’s my view
@Jack – Tosic brilliant, what game are you watching mate? He is useless, runs at full pace, but has NO ENBD PRODUCT. If he is United material, then we have definately lowered our standards!
@ isaidso fucking drama queen. Listening to you were going down this season. Are you a dipper in disguise?
Tony Starks, don’t worry mate, what you are seeing is right, our MF is so fucking pedestrian, that teams like this one who we should be whooping are themselves unlucky not to be ahead. SAF hasn’t got it right so far. However De Laat is fucking brilliant, and defencse not too bad, but MF – not good enough, and this season will prove it.
Valencia is brilliant. The man not the team, that is.
Kusack on in goal second half …..just made superb point blank save
Fucking Owen through on the Goalie again…..and he missed again ….Fergie for fucks sake get him off….
GGGGOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLL
ROOOOOONEY
Valencia Great Cross…… Rooney Good headers!! Awsome!
Rooney scores a header! Im dumb struck!!!
GOOOAAALLLLLL !!!!!
@TonyBee
FFS – It was a difficult chance…give him a break
valencia is looking good!……Differt player to ronaldo completly but will be fantastic for us..
OMg Owen..
Lads before you scream! Owen is right footed!!!
It was a left footed shot!
FUCKING HELL….YET ANOTHER OWEN MISS…..
LOL unlucky Owen
@TonyBee
Do you remember Andy Cole???… That boy used to miss and miss and miss, then would bang them in left right and centre…
The biggest thing about players like that is that they get the chances… Its only a matter of time!
Ooooh Dimi Dimi
For me the Lad Cleverly is doing well.
I like the look of Delap, Evra is fit and silky as ever..
Looking forward to see Macheda & Berbatov…
Rooney was something else tonight!
Be fair to Owen guys, he’s not used to getting chances like that! He’s not played in a good team for ages, am hoping he’ll get his finishing back soon.. It better do or else we got ourselves another Tevez (minus the energy!)
Mexican Wave… Fantastic…
What an atmosphere
Wouldnt it be great if every games was like that! Thats what i call support!
IS IT OWEN BEEN TAKEN OFF GUYZ?
Silva looks quality!!… We could find a place in our team for him… thats for sure!!!
Goal by Clever Cleverly!!!
Cleverly – I like this kid
Clever Cleverley nicely taken Goal……Owen are you watching you twat.
OK Trevor …time will see about the dipper in our midst…!!
TonyBee… I guess you don’t like Owen then!
antonio valencia is world class !
Berba – what a guy – everything looks so effortless for him
Lads,
Looking at the quality of
Gibson
Silva twins
Gibson
Macheda
Anderson
delap
Is it any wonder that fergie hasnt bought anyone else with Ronaldos money
@TonyBee
Its quality to see fans get behind their team! Glad to have you on board!
LOL.. erm did i post 2 gibsons!!… Maybe im obsessed!! hahaha
Macheda to Cleverley to Macheda to Gibson hits the post…… Our future is bright!
Viva valencia…
Evening all! Hope you’re all enjoying the game! Been a top one so far. Just wanna add that De Laat looks a top class find. Fergie, eh, he can find ‘em, can’t he? It was a major surprise signing when he signed last year. Hopefully Obertan will be as good.
Hasnt Rio been immence tonight???
A question for people…
Is a supporter of a team not allowed to ever criticise the team or it’s players?
If there is no room for improvement in our team then what’s the point of playing or watching?
Berbatov Run down the right… Im looking forward to seeing him this season..
I recon he is going to be massive for us!! Him and rooney are going to be awsome..
Wouldnt it just top off the night with Anderson scoring again!!!
That Gibson has got some shot! Pity the rest of his game is not up to much.. (chill am only kidding!)
I agree Tony. Last year for me it was Berba not scoring. If he adds another 5 or 6 I’ll be chuffed this season; Carrick needs to step up when United aren’t winning, needs more energy in the midfield. Only small things but improve we will. Nani looks good along with Gibson tonight.
Gibson could be the next Lampard (ready for anti-chelsea comments lol)
How’s that off-side? that’s not off-side!
@ Tony Stark
A suporter has every right to critise from time to time..
But some go over the top… Lets remember its a pre season friendly and we have some Supporter wanting owen taken off!
Owens chances were not clear cut if you ask me!
Chance 1 – Lovely little dink, did well to get there but at the speed he was coming in and how close the keeper was he did well to get it over the keeper!
Chance 2 – Was from the right hand side – Keeper made a good save
Chance 3 – Put through on the left, Defender puting him under pressure shoots early and wide…
Chance 4 Outside the 18 hurried shot with weaker foot.
A walk in the Park….
David silva looks a class act!
Fergie sign him up
fergie fergie
sign him up!
Tony Starks – yeah mate – so much room for improvement in our team it ia unbelievable. Don’t worry about the ones who are in denial!
Delaat – WTF why did Fergie replace him eh? SAF eyesight dimming – yes? Also Cleverly – did good also. Reserves outshining the 1st teamers at the moment! Rooney apart from header which anybody could have scored, contributed little else. But Rooney fans will remain in denial. MIchael Owen, plenty of chances – NO RESULTS. Our defnese is Brill, and De Laap is IMMENSE – equal to Wes Brown. PUr MF – poor poor poor. Deny it all you want, but this season we will see – all will be revealed!
Well the game was not as much of a challenge as I expected, Valencia changed their whole team at H-T.
But the performance of some of our young guys was fantastic. Bring on Chelsea..
I was most impressed with De Leat and Cleverly (No need to even mention Rooney!)
As for Owen, I think his finishing is rusty cos he hasn’t really played at the highest level for a while. I expect him to make a good impact from the bench this year. But his movement is fantastic, we have not seen this kind of movement since RVN. So don’t write him off people!
a fantastic display…all over them like a bad rash…valencia awesome and gibbo was quality too
this is pre-season, give owen a bit of leeway
he got into excellent positions for all the chances, and linked up really well w/the midfield and on occassion w/wazza
valencia was MAGNIFICENT, especially in the 2nd half… chillingly good
nani was pretty good for his 10min cameo
the plight of berba continues… lovely touches here and there but no luck for him
gibbo impressed after settling in, a few bad touches seconds after coming on, but golden after that
evra – well, evra is a god, enough said
de laet – was decent in defence (scared me a lot with a few early mistakes), and really exciting going forward… very early days with him
really good runout for the lads today… can’t wait for the real football to start!
Tobbe – Antonio Valencia world class – to the blind yeah right?
Tommy had a good game in goal I think, I would actually like to see more of him.
@Isaidso you must of been watching a different match.
whoever said gibson new lampard couldnt agree more…the strike on the boy is out of this world aswell….
not to mention the goalscorers
wazza – the magic as always
cleverley – goal was… ahem, cleverly taken… great enthusiasm, brilliant to see, hope he kicks on from here
@Isaidso
You do have a point about the midfield, but if Anderson and Hargreaves manage to play together (I know I know Hargo is miles away yet) then the energy will be there..
But remember this was not necessarily the first team so not fair to judge the prospects for the season based on that. It would be great to have someone like Fabregas in there but it ain’t gona happen, so lets just see how it goes before making final judgments!
guys calm down. it was a pre-season friendly after all. no one seems to spell De Laet right apart from Corea. Ritchie looks a real good player.
thanks for the link mancaroon.was lucky to watch the match.all other links had shut down…..
Trevor – yeah your in denial! Afraid to tell it as it is mate?
Gibson is Lampard? Really? Are we not getting a bit carried away there?
I just wish we get Keano and Scholesy (at his best) back from the past!
Tony Starks – I already know how it will go with our present MF mate – do you?
Was getting a tad bit worried that we had signed Delap and not De Laet with Trevors posts ealier…lol, The lad looked good from what I saw.
Jack – I wasn’t watching a different match mate – I am just HONEST!
@Isaidso
I’m not quite as pessimistic as you mate but I do know that our midfiled will struggle against Liverpool and Chelsea. But in the past few years we have not relied on the centre midfield to provide the goods, in the past few years we have always relied on pieces of individual brilliance in the big games.
It will be the same this year. But I do think we will be defensively strong. I just hope Rooney and Berba can step up to the plate this year. I think we will do ok in spite of the MF.
Gibson the new Scholes…without the tackles
@Isaidso
Im certainly not in denial! Im a realist! I am able to sit back and look at things on a whole not with blinkers on like some of you lot! If we had of lost the game 3-2 tonight and played valencia off the park i would have been happy! Its a bloody pre season game!… Its the performance im interested in!… We have played Bayern, Valencia & Boca juniors and we got 3 good games out of them… Lets see how we fair up against chelsky in the charity sheild!
Question for you! What is main reason for pre season??
For me it is to get the players match fit! Get the tactics Sorted for the season, Get players acustom to their new rolls etc! Without anyone getting injured, unfortunitaly VDS did but it will give foster chance to prove himself.
With our preseason i think we have done that!
I am more than happy with the way things have went this pre season, the quality in our squad looks really good.
The main contingent looks great
Evra
Rio
Evans
Carrick
Rooney
Berbatov
Valencia
Giggs
I felt these showed glimses of what they can do.
Anderson, Nani, Gibson, Ge Laet Cleverly, owen, Macheda
@Tony Starks
I think this coming season we will see a simular formation to when united had a midfield of
Giggs – Scholes – Keane – becks
or
Giggs – Keane – Ince – Kanchelskis
For me i feel we will play a more regimented 4-4-2 than we have done in recent years. With our wingers providing more oppertunites for our attakers to convert.
I recon we will counter attack and utilise Valencias Pace…
I think our central midfield will consist of someone with Energy like Fletcher or Anderson alongside Carrick, scholes or Giggs.
Giggs and scholes will not play every game but i think Fegie will be cute when he uses them…. I remember last season we played middlesborough with Giggs and Scholes at centre midfield… I said at the start of the match iw asnt keen. i didnt think it was a good idea!… What happened???? Giggs and scholes tore then apart!
My main expectations this year from the team is
Rooney – To take on board the responsibility of being our Main man!! & replace ronaldo!
Anderson – To impose himself more and score a few goals!!
Valencia – Looks to have settled in well… Im excited at what lies ahead!
Nani – I think he is going to do well this year!!… He will get more chances and i have fingers crossed he does well!
Carrick & Fletcher – Both imence last year.. I expect the same as last!
Owen to chip in with 15 goals!!! I really do think he will do it!… I think owen was a little nervous tonight! Was a little rushed but at times thats how it goes for strikers!.. I have seen matches were rooney had more and better chances than he did and not score!!… What owen showed tonight is that he provides something that we havent got…. A striker who wants to sit on the last defender and constantly look for the throughball!! It gives us another alternative!!
Our Defence – With our defence i can see us continueing to be solid, if we have problems
Comical Isaidso, just comical. Just on way back from the game and it was a good run out. Don’t think anyone had a bad game, De Laet excellened, Roonery and Owen linked up well and when Anderson came on I was impressed by his long range passing. Must say though Silva was awesome for them, split our defence with ease. If we could sign anyone to give us that bit of spark I’d love it to be him!
J
Trevor – mate I am not deliberately trying to goad you or anybody, but if De laet only showed what you call glimpses of what they can do – WOW that is not what I saw! De Laet was fucking IMMENSE – the best player on the field in the 1st half. Our MF was pedestrian AS PER USUAL , and yes it is pre season, but wqe shall see who has got it right when the games start next week. I believe that on present TEAM, Chelsea will beat us in the charity shield. And I am not just being pessimistic, but I call it as I see it. Hope the lads can prove me wrong, but I doubt it!
Tony Sparks – I agree with you mate – but WHO will supply the individual brilliance this season then eh? Certainly not Rooney, Owen or Berba. Nani maybe if SAF will feckin wake up to the lads potential, but we shall see eh?
@Isaidso
You are not goading me at all, but for me what De Laet showed a glimse of what he can do!
One game doesnt make a player!!.. We have to remember that he is young & that he is going to have his good and bad games!!
All i know is that he looks quality!!…..
MF Pedestrian……. I think this is how fergie is going to set the team up… By playing with 2 central midfielders in Carrick & Fletch say… playing deep with Carrick controling the passing of the game.
Our wingers & interchance in attack is going to be the focal point for us this year…
Isaidso
To be honest I’m quite happy with front 4 of Nani, Berba, Rooney and Valencia (even though it means Nani gets played out of position)..
It would be great if we got a left sided player like Silva but it just ain’t gona happen. But the thing is Park will always play left midfield in the big games as the manager trusts his discipline etc more than Nani..
Yes we will see, I think Rooney is more than capable of providing the individual brilliance. I don’t really see us being that different from last year, but success depends on how much the other teams improve..
By the way (I’ll say this quietly) I think we will miss Tevez on the pitch but am glad the little prick has gone
@Isaidso – The tripe you are coming out with makes me wonder whether you are indeed a Utd supporter or have even watched them before.
Altonian – Just because I am honest about the present state of my team IMO, doesn;t mean I am not a United supporter or that I dont follow them home and away. And no I will not give you a mouthful and call you names, because we are ALL UNITED fans though we see things differently. So lets wait until end of season and see who got it right eh?
isaidso is just a pimply teenager too hung up on a single issue.
What amazes me is the width of players this year, an unusual amount of youngsters coming through, stable core and some shrewd new buys. We could probably field 2 teams in the PL this year…
And we would place 1st and 5th at least.
Shitty is going down with a billion in the bank…
Isaidso – You are talking shite you dipper bastard. I have just got back from the game and I thought we played well second half. Owen and Rooney linked up well. Although he missed 4 chances he was in the right positions to start with. For fuck sake it was his first home game, the goals will come, and plenty of them. Fletch was his usual solid self, Ando did well when he came on as did Gibbo. There is FUCK ALL wrong with our midfield, although Carrick’s passing at times seemed a bit “off ” again. We won comfortably and did not get out of second gear. Have some faith man, we started to tick more second half and is only a matter of time before we really do gell and start scoring in abundance. I cannot believe how negative you are. We have won 6 out of 7 pre seasons. Which other top 4 team has? You need to get a grip pal. Number 19 will be coming to Old Trafford.
To say there were 74,000 in Old Trafford the atmosphere was what you would expect for a pre season , no songs just the mexican wave. What was with their players doing their workout right at side of pitch, with the coach leading the group? Comical.
De Laet was superb, Evra was class and as for Rio the man was immense. Cleverly looked bright when he came on and Valencia will be a star. Rooney was just, well, Wayne Rooney!! Love him.
As for Silva I really don’t see the hype, he did fuck all.
Bring it on.
Isaidso – Not meaning to have a go mate but just CANNOT see your logic. Are you saying everyone else is wrong but you. Expect BIG things from this SQUAD. The balance is amazing. 8 or 9 young uns. Yes EIGHT or NINE who all look fucking quality. Then the experience of Giggsy, Scholes and Nev. Then the class of Wazza, Rio, Carrick, Fletch, Vidic, Evra etc . Then the great new signings Valencia, Owen and Orbetan.
Must admit though for me the jury is still out on Tosic.
Thanks for the blog scott.
@King Eric,
I agree.
Our youth players all look fantastic! I cant wait to hear Alan Hanson in the first match of the day! Do you think he will comment about winning anything with kids???
I doubt it!
Out squad is in such a strong position it is unreal.
What we need to do this season is hit the ground running, and in additon to this we should have hargreaves back… I think alot of people have forgotten how good he is! Although i dont think he will be firing on all guns until after christmas! but could prove vital for the important part of the year!
Just to highlight how good our youth Academy is, in Coleraine Northern Ireland they host an youth tournament. United youth team won it again this year for a second season running! So in 3 years time there will be some of them knocking on the door as well!
What did you think of berbatov when he came on… He looked a differnt player to last year.. Showing determination down the wing at one point with a fine run!
King Eric – I know you cannot see my logic mate – not many people can lol. It is not nice of you to call me a dipper, just because I have a different opinion to you about our MF. Like Scott called me a bluenose because I didn’t agree with some of his philosophies regarding out team. Still whatever. There seems to be a continual decrying of United fans on here, who don’t agree with what some might call the mainstream view on things. I know you are a red Eric, even though youcannot recognise another Red, because I see our MF strength different to yours. I am a Salford lad, born and bred Man united in a family of Man Utd fanatics, but on Rep of Mankunia, some of you people are very good at name calling United fans with different opinions. Like I say though King Eric, I am a United fan and don’t need to prove anything to you. I still have a mind of my own though, and I think we have a lot of problems in MF, but let us wait and see whether I or you am right – I watched the game on MUTV because I moved to Newcastle as my missus is a Geordie born, but I get to most games except midweek ones. Not that it makes any different, but I resent being called Dipper or Bluenose by my own United fans, because I have doubts about certain areas of our play – anyway whatever mate!
you know i get depressed sometimes reading the comments of our “fans”. It’s a pre-season friendly, and some are already writing players off. Owen is expected to score with every touch, every rooney touch must be amazing, berbatov must beat every player on the pitch on the way to his seventh hat trick of pre season before some ppl are happy. And why the hell are ppl talkin about delap, deelap and the rest! Get the names right ppl. Owen’s rusty, but will he get more goals than tevez last year? Undoubtedly. Will rooney have more of a say this year being played more centrally which fergie has admitted he has too and the player openly prefers? Definately. Will berbatov improve? Of course. Question marks remain over anderson and nani but fletch took few years before he reached potential. Criticism is expected from time to time, and everyone has opinions but some of the comments are pathetic. We’ve always been known for being patient with kids with talent so try supporting your team, the players and the manager instead of criticizing their every breath.
Sunny listen mate, I am 24 years of age, with an honours degree, so lay off the pimply student gaff you ignorant prick! I have supported United since I was knee high to a grasshopper, because I was breast fed United by my father and grandfather, so fuck off with your pimply teenager shit. Just because I have a brain, and dare to say where I think we are lacking as a team – doesn’t make me right, but doesn’t make me wrong either, and the same goes for you. So think before you feckin make false assertions mate!
@Isaidso
Mate i think you miss the point about pre season friendlies & also what you expect from the MF.
Tonight for me. Our wingers played wide and forward with our 2 central midfielders staying back mostly covering. Our full backs were overlapping and joining the attach yet again being covered by the central midfielders!
The shape of our team looked good. We created a good number of chances. It was an end to end game and did us the world of good!
We all know its going to be difficult this year with ronaldo going, new players in, Change in formation & change in certain players rolls. But added to this we were a young team last year and the likes of Anderson, Nani, Gibson, Macheda, Desilva & Co will all improve this year..
Its easy to jump on the band wagon and just critisze, i just find it so frustrating.
like for me Owen played well tonight, made excelent runs, i do think he should have scored however he did well with the chances he had.. The dink of the keeper normally would have went in…Also dont forget that this is the first time he has played for us at old trafford! I am sure he would have been a little nervous at the reception he would be given after all the negative feedback and comments he has receveid!
We had some plonk on here asking for fergie to take him off after he didnt score any of his first 3 chances…I dont class people like that as true supporters. Supporters Support & get behind their team!
We all have opinions! WE all express them to some degree but at least we should use comon sense!
Differences of opinion are what makes this game so great! The fact that people can talk 24hrs a day about a group of people kicking a piece of leather about..
Imagine how boring this forum would be if everyone had exactly the same views! To be fair to Isaidso I have spoken to other Reds who share his concern about the midfield..
I thought the whole purpose of this place was for Reds to discuss with each other views on the team and players.. sometimes it’s easy to get carried away with pre-season form (it happens to Arsenal every year!)
Bring on the competition! this preseason has lasted forever!
But above all we should support the guys wearing the shirt as long as they give 100% try to give players the benefit of the doubt
Above all know that our manager knows FAR more about the game than we do, he doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone!
Trevor, listen mate I never said anything about Owen or our other forwards, apart from not relying on Rooney for all our goals. I was talking about our MF weaknesses, which most Man United fans I know all agree have many deficiencies, which were exposed against Barca in Rome and in other top games. We could bury our head in the sand, and stay in denial, but there is nothing wrong in HEALTHY DEBATE and realism about where we have deficiences in our team. The problem is, too many people on this blog take it personally and get all hyper about any trype of constructivwe criticism – though not all criticism is NEGATIVE. Guess that’s just the mentality os some Man United fans though, but a lot of United fans like myself, can face up to our deficiences, and hope for strengthening. I don’t see that makes us lesser fans than you mate – sorry!
@Tony Starks
But do you not think that if we see an improvement from Nani & Anderson, with Valencia fitting in.. Rooney playing more up front & berbatov in his normal position..
Do you not think we could hve enough fire power and strength to do well this year?
You stated earlier you wanted owen taken off… You do know its a pre season friendly!… You know he is lacking a little match sharpness… You know its his first game at Old Trafford…. So why are you so quick to jump down his throat?.
Did he play badly?.. i dont think he did…
Fair enough he didnt score but his performance to me was pleasing!… Made some great runs, some nice neat touches & gave me more confidence that he is going to give us goals this year!
But you keep ranting on about our MF, it didn’t do too badly last season did it? The only player we’ve lost is Ronaldo and he rarely rose to the occasion in the big games so I’m not sure how all of a sudden it’s not going to compete with Chelsea’s etc.
I actually liked what I saw of Tosic tonight, although he’s still got quite a slight build I thought he held off players well. Had a few nice touches & runs and his crossing was pretty good, seems to get plenty of pace and whip on them.
Not much to say about Valencia, what he did says everything. I think he’s going to be a great asset to the team this year, especially when he’s reached full fitness.
Once again Berba with a nice little 20 min run out, just his delicate flicks and overall gameplay such a pleasure to watch.
I thought Silva made them a lot more threatening at times when he came on, he split open our defence twice within the first ten minutes of the 2nd half. Kind of like Messi in a way, his close ball control is excellent and rather than excessive shooting his vision and passing is top notch, or at least it was tonight anyway.
@Isaidso
With regards to what happend in Rome i dont think any of our players performed or turned up to be honest!
That had nothing to do with the MF… We won the league last year and got to the final of the champions league..
THis year im not expecting rooney to score all the goals! I think ROoney, Berbatov & Rooney will get goals..
In addition to this a more spread of goals thoughout the midfield….At least this is what i am hoping for!
debates good and does give you insight into what other supporters think but does it not irk you when ppl are saying players are no good coz they’ve not had good pre season? How can owen, a free transfer, be so shit when he hasn’t even played a league game? Personally i’d prefer him to miss every chance he has in pre season and play every minute if it means match one of the lge he’s sharp and match fit, which i don’t remember him being too much at newcastle. And ppl are questioning valencia already. Can’t ppl get behind the team more
Tony Starks – thank you mate – and you are right about respecting different opinions. If this blog is just about everybody agreeing about everything, then it isn’t a decent debating blofg of discussion at all, but a playground for children who all must play nice with each other, or be cast out – bloody shame if that be the case!
Trevor, so why did Fergie himself say that our MF was over run in Rome, and the players themselves too? Yes, I agree we didn’t perform, but to perform you have to have a strength and combativeness in MF which we lacked. It was something we lacked against Chelsea they year before, but we got lucky in the penalty shoot out. If you can’t even admit to that, to another United fan, then no point in even trying to debate with you! So fine by me.
@trevor
erm.. I don’t actually remember saying anything negative about Owen, I was actually quite pleased with his performance, his finishing will definitely improve with games, you don’t lose that
Anyway I kind of agree with your analysis about the attack.
If I said that we will be the same as last year is that bad? Premier League Champions and Champions League finalist? Yeah I’ll settle for that! But with a different final result!
What? Against Chelsea in the match when we should of been 3 – 0 up at half time? Maybe i’m missing something?
By the way I get the dreaded feeling that Kuszcak will get the nod in goal! No!
Isaidso – Fair enough mate, I apologise, I did try to on my second post.
Trevor – You make some good points mate. It was TonyBee that dislikes Owen .
Tony Starks – I think you might be right about TK.
Isaidso – What about our midfield against the Rentboys last season? They were over run by an “ageing” Giggsy!
@Tony Starks
Sorry fella.
Too many tonys on last night! Mistaken identity!
@Isaidso
Our midfield was overrun in rome because they underperformed! For me i think they played at 60% of their ability, or maybe they were overtaken by the occasion.
It is unusual to watch United in any game where if you had to pick the top 10 players not one would get in the team.
Rome is a sore point for me, I was so dissapointed and gutted that none of our players turned up or the night. I do however feel we were very unlucky that eto scored on 10 minutes or so as we were all over them.. I thought fergies tactics were spot on,, Barca looked rattled. Another thing that didnt help us was the fitnes of Rio and vidic, Rio hadnt had that many games and was only 80 or 90% fit i would say… In addition to that Vidic got injured in training the night or few nights before. Paddy Crarand highlighted this and was supprised he played!
My point is about rome is that all teams have blips, it is hard to judge a team and critisise during 1 game. I feel we have to give the squad we have a chance, lets see what these youngsters can do.
I find it ridiculas that after last season some fans are still over critical. We won the permier league last season. We didnt come 2nd, 3rd or 4th. We got to the semi final of the FA Cup, We wont he worthless cup…. Ronaldo helped i agree but wasnt the only player on the pitch.
In fergie i trust!……He has built team after team. He has had variation in tactics which mostly have worked. Im really looking forward to this season, there are so many youngsters and players that i am excited by and cant wait to see what they can do.
@KingEric – thanks mate – no problem! I missed your other post where you softened your stance a bit. Maybe I am going to have to soften my stance a bit on this blog, because my comments seem to rattle many a cage. Not deliberately mate I assure you, I just like to not just always have to say the right thing all the bloody time, when I can see flaws in the team etc. There is political correctness in football, where you cannot seemingly be classed as a real fan if you criticise anything to do with club or players. To be honest mate, that is bollocks to me, because IF fans really do care about their club, they will say where change might be needed. Sir Alex himself, just like me always gets blasted for saying exactly how he sees things lol, so I am in good company. Not saying it is always right, and I will have to try to express myself and my concerns in a different way than I do – I guess. Enjoy the banter with you though King Eric. So keep the red flag flying high eh?
Isaidso – No mate, no problem. You keep up your posts as you are as it would be boring if we all had the same opinions. I do infact share some of yours, believe it or not. It was wrong of me to call you a dipper and again, for that I apologise!
TREVOR….
Just cos I despise Liverpoo and any cunt who has ever played for them and feel deep down that buying Owen was a fucking huge mistake, doesnt give you the right to diss my comments( calling me a plonk). Everyone has their own opinion and as i have followed the reds for over 40 years, feel that my opinoin is just as valid as yours… you are very vocal when expressing your thoughts and want to belittle anyone with whom you disagree with. remember that was a slow friendly last night and Owen missed 4 or 5 good chances, rusty he may be but he still missed them nevertheless.my request in an earlier post for SAF to take him off was a plea to see Berba go at it.
Owen for me is too old, too slow, not sharp enough and, worst of all, an ex-dipper. In my humble opinion he will only be used as a sub like Tevez was last year and will get a few goals certainly, but only as the supply will be a lot better.
TonyBee – Evening mate. I have to disagree. As much as I despise the dippers and previously Owen, it is a good buy. He ain’t too old he is TWENTY NINE. I was at the game last night and I thought the lad looked sharp and still has pace. He isn’t quite up to speed at United just yet but once he is I am 99 per cent sure he will bang goals in. Ok I know he should have last night but the fact he was in those positions in the first place is very encouraging. His movement off the ball and the way he gains space was superb. I would imagine there was alot of pressure on him to score at OLD TRAFFORD. You don’t forget how to score goals mate and for the first time in years he looks like he is in love with the game again. Have faith in him Tony, he WILL NOT disappoint. To be honest just to write him off already and state “he is an ex dipper” is a little short sighted.
King Eric- Hiya mate ok i read the above post and I cant say I agree wholeheartidly with your comments about Owen. if he doesn’t get injured and stays fit and we win loads next year as i think we are going too and he puts in a season long sustained effort then fine. i will publicly come on here and declare my love for him(in a non-sexual way lol) but on reflection he might still be a shit hot player, but at the moment past memories of him still rile me…… but I will always have this little feeling in the back of my neck that he is not doing it for United he’s doing it for himslf first off all. i pray to the almighty (Sir Matt) that he is the player that you all hope he will be…
if he ever gets a hatrick i will come on here and recant and call myself the biggest twat of the year……. lol
King Eric – Do you think he will be SAF.s starting stiker? and do you think our spending on new talent is over?