“He’s crackin up, he’s crackin up, he’s crack, Rafa’s crackin up!” our fans sing on almost a weekly basis these days, in reference to the Liverpool manager who has seemingly started to lose the plot.
Attending a press conference with a list of inaccuracies which are falsely reeled off as “facts” is never going to be looked upon as the behaviour of a totally sane person. Benitez started his press conference by citing an occasion from just a few weeks earlier when Ferguson was fined and banished to the stands by the FA, yet later claimed Ferguson was “the only manager in the league that cannot be punished.”
Benitez then prattled on about the fixtures two years earlier, claiming United played lots of Sunday matches when Liverpool had played early on Saturday. In fact, there were just three occasions when Liverpool had early kick-offs on Saturday and United played on Sunday. On one of those occasions, Liverpool’s next game came three days later, just as United’s did, so no advantage or disadvantage given. On another of these occasions, International week followed. Suddenly the “lots” of unfair fixtures Benitez was talking about turns out to be just one match, and that’s without looking at how many times United played early on Saturday with Liverpool playing on a Sunday.
Essentially, he talked a lot of nonsense, claiming they were ‘facts’ and made a show of himself. He continued to talk about United for the next two days, whilst Ferguson dismissed Benitez as “disturbed”, “ridiculous” and “angry”.
Since Benitez’s ‘episode’ Liverpool have won two, drawn four and lost one, whilst United have won seven. That hasn’t stopped him though, he hasn’t learnt a thing. He’s at it again, no shame, laying in to United and making ridiculous, inaccurate claims.
“Manchester United make €65m a year more than we do and buy three £20m players a season,” he said. “Chelsea must have spent £500m in five years. We have built a team but economically we are way below them and yet we have still managed to compete. In the five years I have been here I have spent less than £40m on Torres and Keane. How are we supposed to compete with them?”
Since taking charge of the club in 2004, Benitez has spent £189.9 million on 51 players. The team he inherited finished 4th the season before, one position below 3rd placed United. In that same time, United have spent £170.35 million on 13 different players (Berbatov (£30.75m), Tosic (£17m), Carrick (£18.6m), Hargreaves (£17m), Anderson (£18m), Kuzczak (£2.5m), Nani (£17m), Park (£4m), Foster (£1m), Vidic (£7m), Evra (£5.5m), Rooney (£30m), Van der Sar (£2.5m)). How are you supposed to compete? How about you buy fewer players and actually buy good players, instead of players who belong at midtable clubs?
Benayoun, Pennant, Bellamy, Voronin, Kuyt and Crouch are amongst Benitez’s better known signings that wouldn’t get close to United’s squad, let alone starting XI.
Benitez has been shit in the transfer market, totally hopeless, with just a handful of decent buys, yet inaccurately hides behind the idea that United have money to burn and that is why we’re ahead of them in the title, totally ignoring the FACT that he has spent more than Ferguson in the past five years.
“Alex Ferguson controls everything in England,” Benitez added. “The facts are the facts. They are indisputable. When he started talking about Liverpool, I had to respond.”
What an embarrassment. Even Liverpool fans are starting to give up on the Rafalution!
[edit. Attention all Liverpool fans - to save yourself time chatting on about net spend, read it and weep. There has been a difference in spending of just £6 million a year, when taking in to consideration out-going and in-going transfers]
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haha brilliant! when will he learn? viva la rafalution! as long as he is in charge the dippers will win sweet fa so you gotta love it really
Scott give the guy a break.Look at his position for a minute.He is the Liverpool manager under whom Manchester United will equal Liverpool’s number of titles.That’s a stigma if there ever was one.Finally,history has proved that if you are a good manager,you can take the title even if others spend more money.Examples:
1)Arsenal (and even Houllier’s Liverpool) finish over United in the 01-02 season even though United bought RVN and Veron for 50 mil pounds combined.
2)Arsenal took the title unbeaten in 2004 even though Chelsea had bought a lot of players in Abramovich’s first season.
3)United take the title in 2007 after having sole RVN.At the same summer Chelsea got Ballack and Shevchenko.
Money alone doesn’t get you titles FSW.Looking in the mirror hasn’t worked fir you has it?
I was actually looking up those stats the other week so as soon as i started reading his latest rant, i knew he was talking out of his arse. What a loser.
Oh look, another Liverpool article.
For the self proclaimed ‘biggest club in the universe’ you don’t half waste a lot of energy on little ole Liverpool.
Of course, Fergie has never ranted about anything has he…
Hypocrites.
Ok, here is a fact:
ManUtd and their fans will always be, I don’t know, jealous of Liverpool………….. no matter what you do and how many trophies you win you will always compare yourselves to Liverpool’s achievement.
Why is that ?
Have you no culture of your own ?
Case in point: all you are concerned about is achieving 18 league titles ….
it’s almost as if your destiny would have been acheived by then:
It’s as if ManUtd and their fans can rest in peace once they reach 18 league titles.
In the same way that we cannot compare to what United has achieved in the last 17 years, which has been phenomenal, you should not covert what Liverpool has achieved ………..
It’s almost like telling a teenager…. : “Go out and be your own man …”
Forever Liverpool
The Moxster !
In fairness, he may have spent roughly the same amount as us since 2004 but look at the shite he inherited. We were adding to a squad that already had exceptional players whereas the Spanish Waiter was having to replace an entire squad. Only Hyypia, Gerrard & Carragher are still there from when he took over so it’s hardly surprising they don’t have as many £30m+ players in their squad. I’m all for a bit of scouse bashing, but our achievements don’t need to be enchanced by lazy propeganda for the ‘tak dat u drty liverpoo scum’ element to our fans. I’m embarrassed by how obsessed we seem with them sometimes…
Looking at his list of buys makes me think that Rafa should manage Crufts instead — he can certainly spot a Dog.
What a biased piece of sh*t.
I am a Liverpool fan, I don’t think Rafa should have said the things he said, but he did and that’s that.
You state that in four years in charge Liverpool have spent £189 Million on 51 players and that United have spent £170 Million on just 13.
The biggest difference is that whilst United have been spending £18, £20 and £30 Million on many players, you’ve hardly had to sell to finance these buys.
Liverpool on the other hand, have had to sell 55 players to bring in the 51 players bought.
You also failed to mention that over 25 players Liverpool bought were for our academy, mainly under 18 years of age.
If you want to go like for like, please include the transfer fee to all the other players Fergie has bought over the last 5 years, People like Fabio, Rafael, Mancheda and Zieler, mostly youth and academy players.
But you’ve included our youth and academy players in your total of £189 Million.
I don’t pretend to know all the signings Alex has done, but I bet you’re missing at least 15-20 in you list and total of £170 Million.
Finally, I noticed you didn’t include the £10 Million plus you paid for Tevez’s registration.
Included in Liverpool’s total of £189 Million is the £11 Million registration fee for Javier Mascherano, with the remaining tranfer costing us £17 Million.
It is also easier to maintain an already Champion winning side, than to completely overhaul a team.
Give Alex his due, and credit certainly is due to Sir alex !
He has developed three completely different Championship winning sides.
Hopefully Rafa will complete his task and get us back where we belong.
So if you want to talk numbers, please don’t hide behind players you don’t want to mention.
Include all your players you’ve paid for !
Sparq
oh dear…. i think he had his frontal lobes removed when he had his kidney stones done. he’s crackin up!!
Guys, what’s with the obsession about LFC? I hate it when we waste time with half-baked figures and think it’s a fact.
I completed my MSc dissertation on investment in football recently and you can access my work at the University of Manchester library. Worth a read when it comes to looking at transfers in particular.
Also worth noting that Benitez has a net spending of £16.8m per annum since he took over at Scouse pool. He may not have the clout we have but he has done a decent job nonetheless. Credit where it is due.
Finally, I don’t think he has cracked. He’s doing the same thing he’s done all season but he does not have the same quality as Utd. Simple as that.
Did you not sign Mascherano? which would mean it’s a permanent transfer. Tevez hasnt been signed yet and i would imagine thats why he isnt included on the list.
Also fair comment, it’s easier to maintain a title winning side, except we didnt have one for three years and then we won two with the side that SAF had assembled over the past 5 years.
I might also be wrong but i very much doubt that we spent much is any in signing the da silvas, macheda etc….
I think you just need to face up to the fact the fat rafa is a nutter and has bought a load of old shite in the transfer market. He is struggling and grasping for anyone to listen to any of his piss poor excuses to divert attention away from himself and his failings.
simple – time for pool to change managers again. anyone else thinks he’s beginning to become another houllier, even starting to look like him!!
give us stevie g and we’ll show you how to use him! lol!
sometimes i wonder if rafa plays FM2009 and then tries it out on his team line-ups. too bad in the real world there is no save game and reload!
let’s just buckle down and storm till the end of the season, let the numbers speak for themselves. if pool win the title, kudos – especially if they do it with rafa!
wow, how amazingly short sighted!
Why not have a look at the net spend or the fact Rafa has built a squad from scratch. Also how long has Rafa been in charge? We have not reached the base level that united reached years ago. Of course that is not your problem but our record signing is 20.2 million whereas you have nani, anderson and hargreaves who barely play who cost 50 million and tosic for 17 million! Only Torres and Mascherano in our current squad cost more than tosic! Your youngsters and reserves cost more than our first team players!
We are approaching that level where we can add one or two top players a year but we are not there yet, we had to build a squad first.
However united have built an empire and are reaping the rewards but you have been spending big for many years. Rafa has done far better than fergie did in his first few years.
It makes me laugh you and the bitters in it together singing songs about us when we are not even playing you! Small time.
Debrabs,
At least your Honest, agreeing with me saying it’s easier to maintain an already Champions winning team !
But fairs, fair, you still coughed up more than £10 Million for Tevez’s registration, it has to be included.
Also you’d be surprised what these youth players can cost, with add ons.
You only have took look at just two Arsenal’s recent buys.
Ramsey £8 Million and Walcott £12 Million.
I bet the Brazilian twins weren’t cheap !!!
Am guessing, but you wouldn’t get much change out of £5 Million for the pair of them.
Just another 18 players to go then……
Rafa’s Net spend 90million. United Debts nigh on 900 million and your still in there Shadow. What Rafa stated was what every none United fan was thinking – Fergy always manipulates officials. Shame, as he should really let his billion dollar team do the talking.
Of course it’s easy to maintain a title winning side. but what you’re not getting is that united didnt have one for three years and the current side was largely assembled over the last 5 years. The first three we didnt win the league so you’re point is pointless.
Maybe the loan fee for Carlos should have been included but you also failed to mentiont the numerous players that united have sold or let go in that time to balance the books… Van Nistelrooy, Rossi, Piquet, Eagles, Saha, Silvestre plus the numerous youngsters we’ve let go permanetly or on loan.
I seriously also doubt that the twins cost much as no one had heard of them along with the likes of macheda etc… Ramsay and Walcott were established players in championship teams and thats totally different than picking up brazilian or italian kids on youth contracts and them being good enough to make the grade.
even if you counted the academy players i doubt they would make that much of a difference.
but the point is that rafa’s significant buys havent dont much apart from torres, skrtel and agger.
@sparq
The DaSilvas cost less than 3 million quid… bargain….
Macheda and Zieler were signed on YTS programmes so we essentially got them for nothing… same way Arsenal got Fabregas for nothing…
Ramsey and Walcott had already signed professional contracts hence they cost so much.
We have sold to finance these buys.
We sold Mikel and got Anderson
We sold Pique and brought Evans through instead
We sold Rossi and now we have Wellbeck and Campbell instead
Pique and Rossi were sold mainly due to the fact that they couldn’t break into our first team… Both players would walk into the Liverpool first team.
All players that we brought through the youth team who cost us nothing (except for Obi Mikel who turned out to be a nice little earner for us)
Even with Rafa’s 190 odd million spent, Liverpool are over-reliant on Stevie Me and Torres. Rafa has been a disaster in the transfer market….FACT
Scott the 16 mill for Tosic also included Ljaljic
I forgot about Mikel… classic, what a bit of buisness that was for a total pile of shite haha
“Benayoun, Pennant, Bellamy, Voronin, Kuyt and Crouch are amongst Benitez’s better known signings that wouldn’t get close to United’s squad, let alone starting XI.”
What a load of bollocks, Voronin one of our best signings? You forget to mention the likes of Torres or Masscherano who would walk in to your team.
How many players have you spent over £30m on? Think Voron and Forlan were great buys for you…..we can’t even afford to spend that much on a player.
also…Rafa says ‘it would be the perfect end to his career’…..what could he be talking about? winning the champs. league again? winning the premiership for the first time? coaching the Spanish national team in a world cup?…..nope, managing Real Madrid (Liverpool’s next champs league opponents) where he’s previously coached the youth team….absolutely hilarious
‘Manchester United make €65m a year more than we do and buy three £20m players a season’…This makes all other arguments void, we are both businesses and we make more because we are a more successful business…end of discussion unless Benitez or Liverpool fans want us to adopt a Communist system?
So whats tomorrows Liverpool story gonna be on the Republik of Liverpoolia?
If thats what living in our shadow means you have to do , then you may keep doing it.
PS You lot are probably asking why i amongst other Liverpool fans are posting on your site and its a good question, but the problem is that you continuously run Liverpool stories knowing full well they will appear on Liverpool Newsnow.
Wrong the Silva’s cost £2.6 million each, £5.2 total.
Ben foster £1 Million
there are countless number of youth players you’ve paid for.
It took you four years to overhaul big spending Chelsea, you were Champions, then Chelsea took it from you, but you got it back in the end.
Rafa’s only tying to get us up there, he’s doing a good job.
Your comparisons don’t stack up.
Macheda wasn’t signed on Yts, he was tacken the same way Liverpool took Daniel Pacheco from Barcelona.
You have to pay compensation to the club who developed him as a youth,
it can run in to many Millions.
You bought Davide Petrucci the same way, costing £200,000 compensation, small change, even considering his £100k a year salary.
But to say they cost nothing….B*ll sh*t.
Every one of Rafa’a buys is listed in the 51 players, so stop talking cr*p and realize Fergie has spent way more than £170 Million over the last 4-5 years and on a hell of a lot more players than the mis reported 13 you listed.
Come back when you have a full list to compare with a proper total cost to compare.
Sparq
Well said Super Torres !
in all fairness mate, firstly, you are giving the administrator of this site valuable hits along with all your embittered lot. Secondly, Rafa Benitez story is worth talking about because in 20 years of Premiership history nobody in such an eminent position has come out with such drivel and continued to do so….It’s tantamount to some American government minister saying they think the CIA did orchestrate the 9/11 attacks…He has become the most ridiculous man in Premiership history with your own ‘Super Torres’ questioning that he doesn’t see what he’s going on about and neutral TV pundits saying they can’t see what he’s going about and why he has said it and now keeps on saying it. Thirdly, it’s hilarious, you’re supposed to be our title challengers and yet your manager comes out with pointless stuff like this, beomaning the United business model, that everything we’ve won has been as a result of bias and that he would love to end his career at Madrid, what a moron, I pray he never leaves Liverpool because his entertainment value is priceless.
Rafa has erred and he prob regretted it, but he’s not saying it out of shame. If ManUtd wins the league and/or the CL this season & L’pool wins nothing, I bet my last dollar Rafa will leave and says it was ‘due to my contract’ and ‘I was never allowed final say’ & ManUtd has the advantage, yadda, yadda, yadda’.
I never hated Rafa before till the rant against Sir Alex/ManUtd. He was in effect trying to ‘psycho’ ManUtd into dropping points against Chelsea and bit off more than he could chew. Now I can see through his hypocrisy. I can see why SOME L’pool fans will come out & defend him, digging deep into details they never even knew before, but the fact that some L’pool fans are speaking out against him says it all. Rafa is a poor, dishonest manager trying to win in football OFF the pitch when he sees that ON IT, he will prob fail. Bring on March 14th when L’pool comes to OT.
C’mon Jake, are you saying the American government didn’t organize the attacks on the twin towers or the pentagon ?
You’ll be saying there are no such things a UFO’s next.
What I do like about this site, there has been no bad mouthing, or maliciousness in the chat between two sets of very big rival Football club supporters.
Unlike the Chavski and Everton’s forums……
I too want Benitez to stay, if we win the league or not, it is going to be hard now, United are in prime position. There is still a hell of a lot of points still to play for…. Remember Arsenal were 18 points clear of us in mid feb 1989, we had games in hand, we caught them up only to lose out on goal difference.
Then United surrendered a 15 point lead to Arsenal too.
Didn’t United do the same to Arsenal ?
One thing is for sure, no-one posting on here, though come middle of February, Liverpool would be clinging on to your coat tails.
The League doesn’t lie, the best team will win the Premiership in May !
Sparq
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Liverpool Total spend = 190mil
Net spend = Players in – Players Out – Rafa’s net spending = 65mil
Rafa has made a loss on 3 players
*Keane around 3mil
*Morientes around 3mil
*Gonzalez 1mil
We can include Cisse, Diouf and Diao if you want but not his signings
Manchester Total Spend (remember this is only since 2004 when rafa arrived not mentioning additions made b4) = 170mil
SAF net spending = 135mil
35mil recouped from RVN 10mil, JOB 12mil and player losses such as Forlan, djemba djemba, kleberson as well as sales from richardson, rossi, butt, phil neville etc…not much recouped but alot spent….
Rafa has removed all the previous regime with only Carragher, Gerrard and Hypia remaining…
Look at what he has provided…Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia, Sissoko, Mash, Riera, Kuyt, Torres – only 1 player in this list is over 10mil can you guess which 1?
Look at what he had to work with when he arrived Risse, Cisse, Traore, Biscan, Kewell, Smicer, Baros, Dudek, Finnan, Mellor, Kirkland, Warnock, Siname, Le Tallec, Cheyrou, Diouf, Diao…not to mention in his first season he lost both Heskey and Owen whcih was not his choice.
Josemi, Kronkamp, Gonzalez, Pennat, Crouch, Voronin, Zenden, Bellamy, Keane were not the greatest buys but only 1 was expensive.
Why is this site called `The Republik of Mancunia` ???
Shouldnt it be “The Republik of Salford` ???
Jake , fair enough mate if i and other Liverpool fans are giving extra hits and revenue to this website by having to respond to ridiculous stories published on here then at least i know why they publish these stories.
Everyone knows full well that United are in the driving seat for the title, but there seems a certain arrogance flowing through here that the title is in the bag allready – After all this rubbish being printed continuously on here you may pray the title allready is sewn up or the abuse you lot will have to endure will be of an unprecidented scale and i think you know that.
Sparq… you’re talking as much shite as fat rafa
In the three years were we didnt win the league we almost entirley overhauled our playing staff, we did what your shower are rather poorly trying to do now and that was to get back to winning the league. We did it and we did it well.
Added to the players we’ve signed. we’ve also got Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Evans, Fletcher, Wellbeck, Gibson, Campbell, Eckersley, Chester who have all played this season and came through united to the first team. Added to them we’ve got young players out on loan like Simpson and then the Da Silvas, Macheda, Possebon etc that we picked up for next to nothing who have all made a qaulity impact in the first team (except macheda)
Fat Rafa spent 500k on Godwin Antwi and he is the most god awful football player i have ever seen… Rafa hasnt got a clue when it comes to transfers and it’s painfulyl obvious.
here we hare sparq and super torres talking rubbish. U all can’t even count your transfer fees like Fat spainish waitress and here u are counting ours. kind of stupid to for u to said that tevez is bought, he is loan to us dumbass. And our youth players here won’t even bought with as much u liverfools did. Sad that u all have to kidnapped 25 teenagers in 4 years and we only see u play one of them only. Your sick club is trying to ruin england national team. i guess that will be no engish players in lst team after jamie c retired and gerrard goes to jail. And who’s the one being arrogant during dec and say loserfools will win the title. makes me laugh at all your shits. cunts scouser, go to jail please.
Ye scousers can word it anyway ye want, and throw in statistics, ‘facts’, transfer records, and star signs, but the bottom line is that Rafa has been talking nonesense the last while, and his record in the transfer market is poor. He should shut his mouth, it would be in your clubs interest I would of thought.
And also, this is a United blog, its bound to be biased. Fair enough ye get directed here by NewsNow, but ye know exactly what to expect when ye come on here, and its hardly a surprise to find United fans here with a sense of arrogance, we’ve earned it.
Arrogance was hearing “that’s why we’ll be champions” coming from the Kop a few months ago. Fuck off scouse twats!!
Super Torres- pray the title is sewn up? There really isn’t any need, I think we’ll just apply the laws of logic to come to that conclusion…and taking abuse doesn’t worry me, that’s part of the deal mate…However, it would seem that when your manager invites a little onto your lot, we get people like you on here whining and calling us ‘bad people who are really arrogant’…sounds like you’re about to start crying mate
North Stand,Tier 3,Back Row is correct…… we have earned the arrogance and yes this site is obviously Biased….. and i am sure that if there was a magical invention called the internet back in the day when the dippers were winning it all i am sure they would have been just the same..
This may not be constructive but ……………………Please, please just fuck off dippers with your deluded fat spanish waiter of a manager. You are clutching at straws as you know your manager has fucked up any chance you had of competing. You know we are on to your record and you fuckin hate it. Vermin cunts sick of hearing from you and your self pity city. “Oh the media are always on Rafa s back”. “Oh everyone is against Liverpool”. Change the record you boring cunts. The difference is that United play attractive good football and currently have the best squad in europe while yours is full of mediocrity who play very average football.
Is this article about some….. red-faced,conscience-stricken,mortified,humiliated,humbled,chagrined,crestfallen,sheepish,hangdog,red-faced,self-reproachful,dispirited,depressed,basterd,with his tail between his legs? But you have to give him to him… Gives everyone a good laugh at own expense.
Ps the other King Eric please change your name as I have been using this for the past year or so! Cheers.
Load of good those players seem to be doing in the academy. We’ll be hearing next how Liverpool never wanted the PL and the youth cup is a bigger achievement. I’m pretty sure the idea behind spending money on players ‘for the academy’ is that in 1 or 2 years they will be ready to help the first team and if not good enough will be sold on for a profit. Who have L’pool brought through? Insua? Rafa has been there 5 years and 1 player has come through? Oh but he is definitely not wasting money
look at United. Campbell, if he doesn’t play next season will be sold for £5m or more, Welbeck, Gibson, Chester, Simpson, Pique, Rossi and a few more that I couldn’t be arsed to list.
Hey !
Seems like this is NOT a ManUtd fan site after all.
Seems more like a ‘We-Hate-Liverpool” Group, on Facebook.
I find your (and you know who you are) rantings about Liverpool both infantile and your remarks about Benitez xenophobic (racist).
For a world class team of supporters, you are pretty irresponsible idiots.
You probably do not know the difference between being a supporter and a follower.
Liverpool, apparently, may not be the best team around, in England, but they do tend to elicit quite a response from ManUtd ‘supporters’.
I would be embarassed if I was you….
We are not the best team in the country, but we have Steven Gerrard …
We are not the best team in the country, but we have our very own anthem … (unlike “we-are-the-champions” : a karaoke song…)
We are not the best city in the world, but we have The Beatles (unlike flash-in-the-pan Oasis)
We are not the best team in the country….. not by a long shot, but we are Liverpool Football Club……. and our fans are true followers ….. we were made for Liverpool and Liverpool was made for us ….
We are not the best team in the world, but we are Liverpool…
You talk about Rafa spending 190MP and ManU spending 170MP. You’ve listed all youth players bought by Liverpool whereas you seem have missed some youth players bought by ManU. So ManU spending lets say is around 190MP.
190 MP is not Rafa’s net spending as Rafa has sold some players to buy other players. Whereas Ferguson has hardly sold any of his buys. Here are the players Rafa sold in order to buy other players.
Josemi Rey, Antonio Nunez, Luis Garcia, Mauricio Pellegrino, Fernando Morientes, Scott Carson, Antonio Barragan, Boudewijn Zenden, Mohamed Sissoko, Peter Crouch, Mark Gonzalez, Jan Kromkamp, Robbie Fowler
Craig Bellamy, Gabriel Paletta, Jermaine Pennant, Daniele Padelli, Robbie Keane
It accounts upto 80 – 85MP. So that means Rafa only spent 105MP to 110 MP. Where as ManU spent 190MP. FACT.
Agree that Rafa should have gone with quality more. But, you should notice that when he had joined he had to rebuild the entire squad where as Ferguson had good enough squad that needed fewer reconstruction. So it was easy for Ferguson to strengthen one position whereas Rafa had to change almost the entire squad. So, when Rafa started he spent less on many players but as he got funding he started expensive buys too…eg: Torres, Mascherano etc. I’d like Rafa to spend on quality players now not buys like Keane anymore….puhleez.
“Oh look, another Liverpool article.
For the self proclaimed ‘biggest club in the universe’ you don’t half waste a lot of energy on little ole Liverpool.”
This article is a response to something Rafa has said. If he says nothing, there’ll be no article. Simple, really. But you keep telling yourself that we’ve got an obsession with your lot if it helps you sleep at night.
On rafa’s 1st day united’s 11 looked like this.
Howard, Neville, brown, ferdinand (still banned), o’shea, ronaldo, keane, scholes, giggs, van nistelrooy and saha.
We’ve spent a bit remodelling our side as well. There is only rio, ronaldo and wes who are first 11. Granted we bought rooney that year along with heinze but liverpool bought in anybody who wanted to get out of spain.
who cares, all this whinging is linked to the real threat of united achieving 18 titles in total and rafa being given a pink slip followed by a white shirt 2 manage.
Look on the brright side. You’ll still have consistency as Sammy ‘i can’t manage’ Lee in charge.
Moxster, you complete moron, what the fuck are you ranting about? You’re shiting on about The Beatles as part of your arguement, are you on drugs or what?
I do like the way you state that you have an ‘anthem’, and we have ‘we are the champions’…so we’ve made it our own anthem have we? I suppose we have, over the last 15 years alright, thanks for pointing that out.
You talk as much crap as Rafa, and thats saying something.
My point, “North Stand…”, is that we have a culture to be proud of, no matter what you say ….
I’m out of this sorry excuse for a blog site …….
See ya !
Oh yeah, one last thing ….
Next time Fergie visits here in Cape Town, SA (where he visits often), be sure to equip him with a chastity belt, because he sure as hell can’t keep himself from molesting our innocent women …
Ciao !
Re : Moxster
“We are not the best team in the country, but we have our very own anthem … (unlike “we-are-the-champions” : a karaoke song…)”
I would check your facts before coming out with such shite. when you say “your anthem”, i presume you mean “You’ll never walk alone”?
If you check your facts you will find that Liverpool fans stole their famous “You’ll Never Walk Alone anthem” from Manchester United supporters.
Grandmother Jane Hardwick says she was left seeing red after reading a letter in a newspaper which said the song, made famous by Gerry and the Pacemakers, was first belted out on the terraces of Anfield.
Jane, a lifelong Reds’ supporter from this end of the East Lancs Road, claims it was originally sung by her and thousands of fans at Old Trafford long before it became associated with Liverpool.
Jane, 61, was a teenage opera singer when many of her footballing heroes were killed in the tragic Munich air crash in 1958.
And as her own special tribute to the Busby Babes, heartbroken Jane convinced her friends from New Mills Operatic Society in Derbyshire to join her in a rousing rendition of the song at one of the games following the tragedy.
The tune was written for the 1945 musical Carousel, which Jane and her friends were rehearsing at the time. The pals started the singing but soon You’ll Never Walk Alone was being belted out by thousands of fans at Old Trafford.
However, during the 1960s the song was adopted by Liverpool fans.
Jane, who now runs a bed and breakfast in Leek, was first taken to Old Trafford at six weeks old by her father and grandfather.
She said: “It has annoyed me so much that people think the song was first sung by the Liverpool fans.
“The Munich crash was so horrible and everyone was feeling down and despondent and it just seemed an appropriate song to sing.
“It was an emotional time and I managed to persuade my friends to join in with me. Soon the whole ground was singing it and many people, including me, were in tears.
“I never dreamed it would become the anthem of our old rivals but I wanted to put the record straight about where the song originated from on the terraces.”
A spokeswoman for Liverpool FC said: “As far as we are aware, it was first sung at Anfield in 1963 and not before Gerry Mardsen’s recording of the song.”
So put that in your scouse pipe and smoke it!
knightsmith, I said it is our very own anthem, because that is exactly it…
We have adopted it…….. and it is a Rodgers and Hammerstein composition … made famous by Gerry and the Pacemakers, from …… wait for it …. Liverpool….
I can’t help it if you lot did not make it your own … it did not belong to you …
Also remember, that not only Liverpool have it as their anthem …..
So does Celtic and Ajax Amsterdam ……… therefore, it does not belong to anyone ….. all sympathy to Grandmother Jane Hardwick …..
Re moxster
I am quite aware who wrote it, when, and what for, and who has recorded it since; I am a music researcher. It is you dippers that claim it is “your song”, I couldn’t give a shit either way.
You’ve got fuck all to sing about anyhow!
knightsmith, you are a pretty bad music researcher anyways …… stick to ogling those gay Hustler mags, under your bed ….
Also knightsmith, for someone who couldn’t give a shit either way, you found it necessary to give me your (history) of the song, in a long essay … ?
waddup widat ?
Anyways, we beat you in the rugby world cup, in a game that you invented, so yeah ……… whatever …….
Re: Moxster
Liverpool have as much chance of winning the Premiership as kaiser Chiefs have (and I don’t mean the group). And yes I have seen them play.
Whatever dude !
To all you Dipper twats posting on here.
Who’s EPL Champions?
Who’s European champions?
Who’s Club World Champions?
Who’s top of the league (5 points come Wed, 8 points come Sat.)
Who’s still in the FA Cup?
Who’s still in the Carling Cup (For what it’s worth)?
Moxster.
On a different note, I did use to live there years ago, and enjoyed it a great deal. Only came back cos my dad died.
Used to go to Soweto on a regular basis to watch Orlando Pirates, that’s where I saw Kaiser Chiefs
bottom line:
Since 2001-2002 season the NET SPEND for both clubs is:
United: £99m
Scum: £81m
so the difference is £18m – roughly the price of a Robbie Keane!!
FAT SPANISH CUNT!
Moxster “Anyways, we beat you in the rugby world cup, in a game that you invented, so yeah ……… whatever …….” Now Im just confused, what the fuck has that got to do with anything???
You’ve made your point very clearly. That point being that you are an absolute fucking idiot.
EVERYBODY SING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDOWztrFZ6E&feature=channel_page
Re: Moxster
” knightsmith, you are a pretty bad music researcher anyways …… stick to ogling those gay Hustler mags, under your bed”
So you know i’m a bad music reasearcher for a fact do you, you condescending little arseole!
I happened to have worked for the Performing Rights Society for the past eleven years, and with out being big headed, I am regarded as their top researcher.
Being a dipper supporter you wouldn’t know what the word job means.
So fuck off and die you yarpie cunt!
As a matter of fact, i’ve probably done more work in South Africa than you have, you useless piece of scouse supporting shit.
Moxster: *I’m out of this sorry excuse for a blog site …….
See ya !” What the fuck are you still doing on here then? And what on earth has rugby got to do with it? You fuckin idiot! I would shut up now pal before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. You are showing Liverpool Football Club up man. Oh wait they do a good enough job of that themselves. 3 times without…………………..!
“We have nothing to fear, But fear it’s self”
That’s exactly what these United fans are scared of !
Correct, we’ve nothing much to shout about (Premiership) in recent times.
But as I said before, no-one expected us to be in the title chase come mid Feb.
All these people posting other stuff on this topic are just a wee bit nervous.
The original thread was about Fergie v Rafa’s expenditure, and amount of players acquired, nothing else.
To say Benitez is a crap manager is just plain ignorance at it’s highest level.
Benitez as a manager has won Uefa cup @ Valencia
Benitez as a manager won La liga twice ending a 31 year wait for the title @
He won Uefa Super Cup @ Valencia as manager.
He lead Valencia to a Uefa cup final win as a manager.
He won the European cup @ Liverpool in his first season,
The F.A Cup @ Liverpool the 2nd season.
and yet another European Cup Final in his 3rd season.
Lets recap….. In seven years as a manager…
Benitez won a European cup, A Uefa cup, A Uefa Super Cup, 2 La Liga titles, an F.A Cup
Runners up in another European Cup Final, and runners up to Chelsea in the Carling Cup Final (1st Season ).
Crap manager…… I don’t think so….
Lets see if Sir Alex has had that much success in the past 7 years !!!
Thought Not.
Sparq
Re sparq
So what you are saying is Rafa Beneathus has won jack shit of anynote that wasn’t on penalty shootouts.
It is only you Dippers who can’t see what a liability the bloke is, you ask supporters from any major football club, they will tell you the same thing.
Carling cups, Uefa cups, Uefa Super cups, you regard those as worthwhile, but out of interest what do you think of the Club World Cup? you will probably say “Mickey Mouse” because your lot have never won it. Had you won it in Russia it would have been a different story I dare say.
You know what we’re champions of at present, and like it or not , it is an achievement the waiter cannot match.
Sparq: “Lets see if Sir Alex has had that much success in the past 7 years !!!” That sums you lot up you fuckin idiot. Where are Rafa s 2 Premier League titles in there? Other than your lucky champions league win what else has he won in these last few years of any note? Fuck all. Jog on.
PS- runner up means fuck all pal. Who remembers a loser?
Knightsmith and King Eric,
Knightsmith you idiot, go back to your books, you obviously not a true Man United supporter.
Correct we’ve not won the World Club Championship,
just like you didn’t win it in Russia, Moron.
You won the Champions League in Russia….Dufus.
Also, didn’t you win the European cup….. On a penalty shoot out.
Yeah thought so. Go back to your book reading you pretend supporter.
King Eric
Where Benitez’s to Prem titles, where’s Fergie’s 2 LA Liga title.
Give Benitez’s 23 years and he’ll have Prem titles.
Your obssesed about us, Liverpool fans and team.
You sing about us virtually every match.
Whilst we we don’t give a sh*t about you unless we’re playing you.
And as for no-one remembers a loser…….
I guess you’ll never be remembered for anything then !
Also The Uefa Cup not worth winning.
Ha HA Ha,
Is that because you’ve never won it by any chance.
You never use to be good enough to qualify for it.
Look up at how shocking you we’re in European competitions.
Fair play, you’re making up for lost time now. But it’s about time.
And if the F.A cup and Carling cup are not worth mentioning, then why say that you’re still in the competition….
Make your minds up !
Fuck off you cunt. United would have dominated Europe if not for the tragedy. Yeah you did dominate all that time ago and subsequently got us all banned from European competition. Sick to death though of you all living on past glories. Why the fuck would SAF want la liga titles when he has been at the best club in the world for over twenty years and won the lot. Really don’t think he will be too bothered about not having any “La Liga” titles. You need to stop embarrasing yourself mate. Who said owt about the F A Cup not meaning anything? Once again your joke of a club is gonna win fuck all. YSB.
“Your obssesed about us, Liverpool fans and team.
You sing about us virtually every match.
Whilst we we don’t give a sh*t about you unless we’re playing you.
And as for no-one remembers a loser…….
I guess you’ll never be remembered for anything then !”
No probably not but this aint about me its about the Dippers and United. We are not obsessed with you or your club we just fuckin despise you to the core.
Re Sparq:
Don’t call me idiot you uneducated person. If you had bothered to read what I had written, then perhaps your response would have made more sense.
I said “Had you won it in Russia it would have been a different story I dare say.” I was refering to the world club cup which you lost (in fairness you should have won, but didn’t)
Uefa Cup “You never use to be good enough to qualify for it.”
We’re usually in the champions league, The Uefa Cup is for the dregs
I didn’t say the FA Cup was not worth mentioning, I said the Carling Cup wasn’t (even though United are still in it, it’s not worth a toss)
Yes I know we won the champions league on penalties in Russia. Liverpool have won three of their European Cups/Champions League on penalties.
As a matter of fact, the only thing you ever win lately is on penalties.
You seem to be obsessed by books. I think this is because you can’t read, you obviously didn’t read what i had written.
Anyhow come Sunday and you’ll be eight points behind us, and although it hurts me to say it, I hope Citeh kick your arses.
And don’t call me a moron you ignorant bastard; just fuck off you sad scouse twat and annoy someone else.
And this is coming from a scouser! what a shithole the place is, full of fucking losers like you, and you second rate football club.
What Utter sh*t,
yes the disaster in 1958 was truly horrific.
But to say you would have dominated Europe, it’s a bit much.
It’s like saying had Torino not had a horrific aircraft disaster, they would have dominated Italian football, Had Heysel not happened, Liverpool would have dominated European Football. They happened fact. It’s was blo*dy horrendous, but to say any of those teams would have dominated anything, is just pure speculation.
You call yourself King Eric, ‘am guessing after United’s Greatest United opinion polled player.
Guess what, Outside of Old Trafford, the only thing he’ll ever be remembered for is his Kung Fu kick against Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park.
Can anyone on here actually get the correct stats of players bought by United over the past 4 years, with transfer fee’s too.
Surely you’re not going to duck out again, I await yet another parallel thread, that’s what you do when you lose a debate you’ve started !
Finally, You keep calling us dippers !
‘Am guessing it’s a reference to us (Liverpool Fans) “dipping” in to the past history books.
Well King Eric, you’re the only one on here DIPPING in to HISTORY BOOKS……
“if not for the tragedy.”
Well POT…….KETTLE………BLACK…….
I rest my case, and await your new thread……..
Ah,thank you, and good night
Sparq
bin dippers mate…and you need to sort your life out
Fucking hell Scotty….You love to point out the fucking obvious to those stupid scouse cunts don’t you….. Beneathus ain’t never going to turn that load of red shite into any semblance of a team till he pays more attention to his actual team, rather than focus on us. The dozy fucker hasn’t got the brains , wit or imagination to wind up SAF as they will soon find out when they visit OT.
DIPPING BASTARDS….
Go fuck yourselves…..
ooops, Your manager? Beneathus is already fucking you ….slowly and steadily… (just what it’s like Stevie Me will find out when he gets set down)….a season long fucking…..
Re Sparq
” Had Heysel not happened, Liverpool would have dominated European Football. They happened fact. It’s was blo*dy horrendous”
It was your fucking murdering load of scouse scum that caused Heysel la, and getting the rest of us banned from Europe with it!
The whole country hates scousers, and I don’t just mean football either. Look at the reputation the city has got, or is all this just a myth? don’t tell me in, real life you’re all hard working decent honest citizens that wouldn’t say boo to a goose.
No smoke without fire is there?
What on earth do you want stats on transfer fees for? who gives a fuck, it’s what you win that matters.
P.S. your last game of the season is against Spurs at Anfield, a little ghost might just come back to haunt you there, in the shape of a certain Mr. Robbie Keane. now that would be fucking funny; you’ll llk be shiting lights when the time comes.
Hey Knightsmith, IDIOT !
I did read what you wrote.
you actually wrote
“but out of interest what do you think of the Club World Cup? you will probably say “Mickey Mouse” because your lot have never won it. Had you won it in Russia it would have been a different story I dare say.”
You are talking about the World Club Championship in the above sentence, I see no reference to the European Cup, you see.
You then say ” Had you won “it”
“It” being the World Club Championship” or the World Club Cup as you called it. Because after all, in that reply
knightsmith Said,
February 16th, 2009 @18:17
There is absolutely no mention of the European Cup, so say what you have to say, don’t make people have to guess what you’re actually trying to say.
Anyone non footballing fan reading you above Sh*t would think you won the World Club Championship in Russia.
So you think the Uefa cup is smaller than the F.A Cup, now you’re getting as bad as demento your manager.
And winning on penalties…. Is that not in the rules…… I thought so too.
Lets face it, this rant is directed at Benitez being a Crack pot, crap manager.
You said
“We’re usually in the champions league, The Uefa Cup is for the dregs”
Bar United’s exceptional feats of 1999 and 2008, You’ve been a disgrace in the European Cup.
Hardly ever reaching quarter / semi finals.
In the four years that Rafa Benitez has been at Anfield, 2 European Cup Finals and a Semi-Final.
Fergie has not managed that in 10 years !
As I said before coming runner s up or “semi- Final” means fuck all.No prizes in football for coming second. Anyway aint you got a 606 forum to go on or summat? You are spending a hell of a lot of time on this UNITED site. If you are here for the wind up you are succeeding you annoying rat eating cunt.
Re sparq
What a load of shite you talk, “Hardly ever reaching quarter / semi finals.” check you facts, then fuck off you illiterate cunt.
You’ve won fuck all in recent years apartf rom one champions league and FA cup , both on penalties.
keep deluding yourself that you have a good manager, you dippers are so fucking stupid, you just can’t realise he’s turning your club into a laughing stock; you’ll be signing Ken Dodd next!
Here’s looking down on you from the top of the table.
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King Eric
The only reason this dopey twat is on here is because he’s bored; it’s not as if he had any football to watch at the week end is it? not unless he watched both Everton and United win in the FA Cup.
Still he’ll have a bit more to interest him shortly, he can follow stevie Me’s prison football team can’t he.
Thank fuck my mother moved from that dipper infested shit hole when I was two weeks old. All my mother’s family were Everton supporters, I think that’s the team in dipperland known as “the peoples club” that are still in the FA Cup; unlike their useless deluded neighbours.
P.S. Sparq
” In the four years that Rafa Benitez has been at Anfield, 2 European Cup Finals and a Semi-Final.
Fergie has not managed that in 10 years !”
Please check what Fergie has one in the last ten years, I think you’ll find it’s two champions leagues, a few league titles, the odd FA Cup, a double or two, the treble, the club world cup.
Now just fuck off!
Cheers Knightsmith, lets hope he has fucked off. They are unbelievable aren’t they, can’t wait till we do the cunts at Old Trafford next month. Which we will with relative ease.
Sad Sad dippers. These articles wouldn’t exist if the FSW would just keep united out of his shitter for a mouth. Liverpool’s reputation takes a further dip thanks to supporters such as not so bright Sparq, and the not so mighty Moxter. Please do yourself, and you club a favour by fucking off to your miserable lives. I’m sure there are only a handful of other United fans out there waiting to shit on you two. And thank you King Eric and Knightsmith for doing such a good job of it (personally I wouldn’t waste half the time on these two numb nuts)
hey loser-pool.
Rafa has waived the white flag.
He has given up and he has given his team permission to give up. He doesnt believe he can win it.
You are all here cryin cuz the one thing that made you special is about to disapear.
Liverpool are now second rate.
Benitez is just publicly stating you cant compete. He is right you are inferior.
suck it up.
scot bet ya the only one who loves dippers spoutin their cracked up bull shit, more hits
ever thought of getting a donation fund for a RoM flag to take on away games,
who cares who spent what and how much.. fact is pool were conquerors of england & europe for the best part of 2 decades before united turned up.. pool had plenty time to organise and structure themselves around their massive worldwide fan base and build on the foundations of winning.. the Premier League brought in the money and since its inaugaration it was fair play and level ground for all, with the onus on pool to use its glories of 2 decades to set forth and conquer this new scale of league. But they didnt. at this stage United were on the back foot compared with pool, but with fergie on board, a shrewd board, great buys and an eye for global dominance, we built not just a great team but a great club, a great infrastructure, a great fan base, a great youth development, a great enterprise, a great everything. we built on, expanded, developed, groomed, invested, and worked on improving what we had. pool on the other hand were too busy sitting on their past glories to take any notice or do anything constructive. united was building foundations and pool were on their arses doing fuck-all. that said, who the fuck gives a damn bout pool anyway. or what their daft managers say. let them whine and moan like the poor sods they are, they only have themselves to blame.
moxster..SAF is a bastion of morals, laws and principles….unlike your thug fuckin scousers raping murdering maiming whoever they want…
fuckin dippers..murderers
RIP 39 bianconeri
You half wits, I baited you, and like te idiots you are, you fell for it.
I already stated in my article above…
“except for your exceptional feats in 1999 and 2008,
you’ve been a disgrace in Europe.”
I know you’ve won it a whopping 2 times in 10 years.
But like I said apart from the Two Finals you won and the Semi-Final you lost against AC Milan (when we won it)
You never get to the semi-Final stage. Not a good record in over 15 years.
All I stated was Benitez has managed 2 finals and a Semi-Final in 4 short years.
Throw the line………and reel them in !!!
Also, whoose moaning. All I am saying (which is the whole and sole reason of this thread) is that not 1 of you so called Man United fans can get a true list of players bought by Alex Furguson and the total combined transfer cost.
Again you fail to report your figures accurately.
Suhayl, you are a sick and horrible low life, who knows nothing about the facts that Peter Robinson (then Secretary of L.F.C) wrote to Uefa with concerns about the Hysel stadium not being fit to hold a European Cup Final.
You are not a true United fan. You are a sick individual.
I hope the rest of you Ignore this Idiot.
There is no place in football for people like you.
Sparq
Sparq, just fuck off will ya. I, and the majority on here, have no interest in reading anything you have to say. Go ‘baiting’ somewhere else like a good chap, you outstayed your ‘welcome’ just after 11.54am yesterday.
Yep baiting is exactly what am doing, I take the hint, you bunch of loser.
You’re waving the white flag of surrender over you sorry little heads.
Defeated by a solitary Kopite, V’s the whole of R O M.
Fu*k Me, defeated in your own back yard, just as you will be come next month when we complete the double over you, just as we did Chelsea.
You are afraid, there’s nothing wrong with fear, it’s natural. After all your not use to a Liverpool team still in the hunt come mid Feb.
So Finally, Before you concede defeat and I announce my victory against the Mighty R O M,
Please, please, please can you between all of you retards,
give me the list of players Taggot (Fergie) has bought over the the last 4years, Youth Player, Academy Players, your Lady Boy Brazilians ect.
Every single player bought and the Fee.
You sad obsessive tw@ts seem to know all about Benitez’s transfers over the past 4 years, so come on SHOW ME THE LIST ! (SAID LIKE Jerry McGuire)
YNWA
sparq
sparq
fuck off on your on board or dont scousers have pc’s, so no1 chats to you, a fuckin hate you cunts i would feel like i slept with my best m8s wife if i went on a dirty scouse board, so why don’t you FUCK OFF,
and as for lady boy brazilians 1 chant
he’s half a girl and half a boy torres torres
he looks just like a transvestite torres torres
he wears a frock
he loves the cock
he sells his arse on albert dock
fernando torres carraghers bit on the side
no do 1 ya not so bright sparq
Re sparq
Who’s going to be five points behind United tonight then?
You’re going to beat us at Old Trafford, what on earth makes you think you’re going to do that, when’s the last time you did ?
Your win at Anfield was the first time you had beaten us since Maggie Thatcher was a boy, it was getting so one sided and boring that we were thinking of dropping you from our fixture list.
United have only dropped seven points in the last 28 league games at Old Trafford, so what makes you think your lot are going to do it; you will get another drubbing like you did last year.
Liverpool are second rate, everyone realises this apart from you deluded Dippers!
Sir Alex Ferguson: Liverpool Are Manchester United’s Title Rivals
The Red Devils boss sees the Merseysiders providing the main threat to his team’s title ambitions this season…
18 Feb 2009 14:57:12
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Sir Alex Ferguson doesn’t think that Chelsea will provide any major threat to Manchester United’s drive for the Premier League title this season. Instead, he is viewing Rafa Bentiez’s Liverpool as the main threat to his domestic ambitions.
“At this moment in time, Liverpool are our main challengers and our greatest threat,” the Scotsman told The Manchester Evening News today.
^^^^And your point is? Sir Alex says something, doesn’t mean we United fans always agree with it. Did you know that Sir Alex also said that winning the CL back to back means more to him than getting that 18th league title. Take a poll amongst United fans and most would disagree a HUGE lot.
@Sparq: I know you’re a Liverpool fan and stupidity is an in- built trait, but if you want United transfers go to the transfer website or google it, you should have loads of time on your hands since you’re probably unemployed and living in your mums basement. I would laugh at you but that would be like laughing at an autistic child or one with downs syndrome. A Liverpool fans who keeps coming on a United website and baiting them calling others idiots…oh the irony. Now please scurry along to RAWK and hang out with your fellow brain dead idiots.
OtRed,
You’re the one who’s brain dead.
I don’t have to defend myself against any one.
I am comfortable in the knowledge that was I stated above was not a fair comparison.
It’s knob-heads like you, who believe what the Author of R O M (Scott) prints is true.
It’s sad how not 1 of you pond like people on this forum can actually rise to the challenge and get an acurate list.
You can say you’re not bothered, or don’t give a shit.
What is true though, the amount of combined time you muppets have spent responding to my comments proves you are very much are bothered, but infact have a distinct lack of intelligence to go about compiling a list.
One dick on here mentioned that I wasn’t even from Liverpool, well guess what…. Correct.
Oh no, a fan of a football Club and he doesn’t even come from he City in which his team’s from…………
But listen to yourselves. You’re turning in to Bertie McGoo’s. The very people you dispise. (They heckle you about not comming from Manchester)
Get a Life !
And just for the record.
Yes the World Club Championship is a worth while trophy,
and something Liverpool have yet to win.
But on that note, Chris Woods (Former Ranger’s G K)
is spot on.
Edwin Van Der Sar conceded goals in that competition (WCC), so you are clutching at straws….World Record ! As good as E VDS is, and as well as United are doing, he’s currently not even in the Top 3.
No need for me to post again on here.
I can see the white flag from my house !
Sparq over and Out.
Buses have Cars printed on the side of them, it doesn’t mean that they sell cars !
That article on the dipper website is surprisingly truthful and condemning from a scouser point of view