Rafael Benitez is convinced that Liverpool keep falling short to Manchester United because of money. Ignoring the fact that Chelsea had spent much more money than United before we reclaimed our trophy in 2007, he is still factually incorrect, which certainly won’t please a man so obsessed with what he likes to think of as ‘fact’.
It seems his delusions have been passed down to Liverpool’s star player, Fernando Torres, who has today claimed that this is their year, which is so unusual for a scouser.
“We don’t have the same money as United or Chelsea but that is not a problem for us,” said Torres. “We will try to win trophies with money or without it, it doesn’t matter to us. In the past two years, United have been the strongest team in Europe and we had to fight against them. This year they have lost an important player, so maybe it is our time.”
nb. this table is without the £80m for Ronaldo
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This was well before Rafa’s rant, it was actually just after the start of the season, on an actual published authors website, not some 15yr old sitting in his bedroom with a bottle of clearsil and a box of tissues beside him printing what he knows to be lies.
Scott,if there is suck a link,give it to us.
Happy,Colie??
Collie, you still can’t back up anything you say.The article to which Scott was pointed at isn’t a Liverpool article by any means?At least Scott’s link is an inpendent wevsite.Listen, this is pointless anyway.You fans and players will always believe this propaganda about the money difference.It’s the only way you can handle the fact that we are level on titles now.Good for you.It’s your prerogative to make each other feel better that way.It’s our prerogative to critisize a player of an enemy camp when he tries to downplay our success.You didn’t need our money to beat Wigan,Fulham,West Ham and City.And you didn’t need our money to finish above Chelsea like you did in the end.So look in the mirror.Benitez’s rant walk us up and cost you the title.That’s a FACT.If you want to have better luck next season,trying looking in the mirror more often.It can’t always be the Chelsea supporters’ fault or the money issue.
I know Scott is wrong, Scott even knows he is wrong, so whether I prove him wrong or not isn’t here nor there, it’s him admitting to actually printing the lies he was fully aware of I would prefer to see.
woke us up i meant
colie
While your at it tell us the one about your two “phantom” titles won during the war.
Give.Us.The.Bloody.Link.I will accept my mistake if you show me the link and prove how it’s right.
Collie, how would you feel if i called you a murderer with no proof to back it up, and then kept saying that you were lying whenever you denied it?That’s what you are doing.You are welocome to have a conversation here,but only if you are willing to have a responsable one.
Hey hit a nerve did i Costas ????? I amn’t using money as any excuse, just pointing out your factual misunderstandings, and fair play for winning the title last year, I thought you would genuinely struggle with the amount fixtures you would be facing, but your squad held it together well, and in hindsight as delighted as I was with the CL it has if anything highlighted to Fergie the inadequacies of his midfield, and now will be looking to strenghten unfortunately, but as you always hear of the scousers, bring on next year. (Only this time you know we are serious, as does Fergie.) Ps. Best of luck on finding out the truth and bring on next season.
Wish suhayl was on now.Would’ve been more fun then.
@Collie
No nerve mate.I just want a good conversation with rival fans based on facts.And i believe that the money issue has been beat to death in the last 6 months.To be honest,i don’t know if there is out there an accurate estimation of the spending over the last 5 years.What i have said though,is that in the last 20 years,UNited have spent tons of money due to the profit that our brand name generates.The Glazers have spent money as well,but no more than what’s required to make a profit each year(i am not talking about the debts because they have nothing to do with bad financial management).I believe that if other clubs could make the profit we do,they would spend us much as us.
Next season,you could push us eve further,but it’s early days yet.Lets see what signings we all make.At the moment,United are not the favorites for the title.
Colie bitter or what! Oh well. 20 years and counting.
Costas that is fair enough and a fair point, as I said I am not using the money point as an excuse, just pointing out that those figures are way off the mark thats all, I am all up for good conversation. And you can spend all the money in the world for all I care, and it’s the same with Citeh and Chelski, as far as I am concerned, my belief is it will be down to the management, Fergie’s record speaks for itself and as much as I hate his stinking guts I respect what he has achieved as a manager. Rafa is only at the start of his career in management and his record so far isn’t too shabby, and he’s put together a squad that can rival any team on it’s day throughout the world, and it’s been a very long time since a scouser could say that, unfortunately, but hey we’re right where we want to be and all is looking promising for a titanic battle for next years PL title. So bring it on. And Mark the Devil, there’s no bitterness just a good bit of banter that’s all so get down off your high chair and stop playing with your food.
And one final thing Collie.Rafa has some impressive accomplishments as a manager.He won 2 La Liga titles,without being the biggest dog in the fight and he won the Ch.League without a suqad he put together.In all 3 cases,we could say that he was successful without spending as much as the teams he beat.So he can do it with less money than the rest.But he also has to look to the academy.He did establish academy players at Valencia,but he hasn’t been as effective at Liverpool.But he will need that.Because even though Man United have a big squad,a part of that squad is past or present Academy trainees.It’s not just about buying the Berbatovs or the Keanes.
Good on costas to carry on talking to him or her. The link Scott provided is from an independent source, If you have one from another INDEPENDENT source, please provide, providing a source on a Liverpool blog that will probably be skewered and biased is hardly proof.
If one the comments above is to be believed, they already skewered Torres’s price from £20m+ to £18m.
I can’t understand why ‘Pool fans come on this site arguing the toss about their pathetic club. I would have thougnt they’d have enough at Anfield to concern themselves with instead of coming on here talking nonsense.
Have they heard the story that news to be released this week puts ‘Pool’s financial position in a far worse state than was thought.
The sale of the Montreal Canadiennes WILL NOT mean more money for ‘Pool.
The owners don’t give a fukc about the club. They want out as quickly as they can.And they don’t care who buys the club.
Forget about some rich Middle East potentate buying the club. Word’s out that ‘Pool are a financial disaster waiting to be buried. The Arabs who were looking at ‘Pool are now looking at UTD.
‘Pool’s MF is disappearing faster than a mirage. Alonso to RM and Mascherano to Barca will be followed by others who feel its not worth being at Anfield. Torres and Reina perhaps.
And don’t think that Benitez will have a mountain of money to strengthen the team. It’ll all go to paying the owners debts.
So what is the worse scenario? ‘Pool could be put into receivership BEFORE the season starts, suffer a 10 point penalty. and spend most of the season fighting against relegation.
Something to think about, eh?
Oh, that’d be a fun day at the pub, Liverpool fighting to avoid relegation like Newcastle, Nottingham Forest and Leeds.
I’m still surprised at the number of ABUs here.
It’s the offseason, on a blog site of the club that isn’t yours. Why come here if your interests clearly don’t match everyone else’s at the site?
Strange people, those scousers.
LFC fan in peace. I personally visit this site to get a different perspective on things. I have never commented before because its not really my place to do so. But I dont like things being twisted to suite certain arguements.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6506040.ece
here is an independent article stating Rafas net spend as £83.099m.
Rafa and now Torres are correct in stating that it has been hard to compete with your spending power. Not so much that we havent had money to spend but in the way we have had to spend it.
United still have 9 players in their current squad that where there before rafa joined, so that is 9 players that you havent had to fork out for during this time. Rafa has 2 players left from his inherited squad.
So he has totally rebuilt the squad whilst you boys only had to cherrypick individuals that would make your existing, good squad, better. So where you could spend a lot on one or two players we have had a similar amount to spend but have had to buy quantity to try and have a squad big enough to cope with the rigours of the PL. ( please dont say he inherited a good squad because we all know that isnt true. None of the players would get in either of our squads today ((apart from gerrard and carra))
It is only in the last couple of years that rafa has started to have this luxury. This has resulted in a few larger payouts for the likes of Torres, Keene, Masch etc. Before that he was having to trade up and make do with either second choice targets or gamble on free transfers.
Where you could out bid most clubs for the players you wanted we were continually let down by being a few mill short here and there. There are several players we missed out on including Alves, simao even ronaldo if you believe certain media reports.
has fergie ever missed out on a target in the last 5 years due to lack of funds?
Has he ever had to make do with a second or third choice target for the sake of a few million more?
So in that scense we havent been able to compete.
Another factor to be considered is that fergie has been able to cash in on several big name transfers which has lowered your net spend significantly.
Most of the players rafa has sold where inhertited from houlier and werent worth 2 pence between them. United has sold the likes of beckham and now ronaldo for large sums whilst rafa hasnt really sold any of his gems yet. If we were to sell the likes of alonso, torres, masch , even gerrard ( which nearly happened a few years ago) then our net spend would tumble.
I am not trying to make excuses in the “who has spent more” debate but just trying to say that there are several factors to consider and it isnt just as easy as it 1st appears.
Would be nice to see Real Madrid’s numbers..