Despite the impressive 24 league goals Fernando Torres scored this season, Liverpool failed to compete for any trophies this season. Dropping out of the title race half way through the season, having their FA Cup run ended by Barnsley (snigger), as well as being knocked out of Europe and League Cup by Chelsea, Liverpool fans had little to celebrate this season.
Whilst most scousers looked forward to “next season” with great anticipation, as always, they had to watch their hated rivals lift the league trophy and European Cup. What a way to rub salt in the wounds.
However, their talented striker doesn’t seem at a loss, despite the shambles that is going on behind the scenes, as much as the results on the pitch. Yesterday, he had a dig at the defences in this country, claiming they give him too much room.
“The central defenders (in the Premier League) are usually big, strong, aggressive lads,” he said. “I guess it is probably because of these characteristics that the majority think they can solve problems by getting tough with me. But the truth is most of them lack defensive positioning as a result of their reliance on strength and aggression and leave so much space for you to take advantage of.”
If that is the case, why did Fernando Torres spend two matches in Rio Ferdinand’s back pocket this season?
At Anfield, we didn’t hear a whimper out of the scouser’s “saviour”. After a very quiet first half, you wouldn’t have even known he was on the field in the second. He was given a rating of just 5/10 from Sky Sports, in comparison’s to Rio Ferdinand’s 8/10 Man of the Match performance. United scooped all three points at Anfield again.
In the return game at Old Trafford, United finished 3-0 up and Torres was even worse. Liverpool managed just one shot on target in the entire 90 minutes. Sky Sports again rated Torres 5/10, in contrast to Rooney, who claimed Man of the Match. After the game, Gerrard said of Rooney, “He destroyed us at the weekend.”
With ten minutes to go, after doing nothing, Torres was taken off for Riise. Doesn’t say an awful lot about Torres if he can show himself up as entirely inaffective on two occasions against United, particularly when, according to him, the defences over here are lacking in technical ability.
Torres is el nino, whilst Ferdinand is el hombre.
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I was sitting in the crowd that day at OT, Torres was nowhere to be seen. He’s probably right about the majority of the premier league defenders though, most of them are really technically inept. Rio on the other hand is very graceful on the ball.
its alot easier marking one man and looking good than having to worry about quality wingers and a decent strike partner which torres was lacking the whole season.
When I heard of the comments he made about the defences in England, the 1st thing that crossed my mind was how he performed against United. He knows he couldn’t find a way out of Rio’s pocket in the two games, just as everyone who watched the matches does. I think that he decided to praise Carvalho, as he felt he couldn’t be seen to be praising the great defender of his teams great rivals! Either that or he isn’t big enough to admit that Rio was the best defender he faced.
well, yeah well said.. but you cant expect him to score in every big game for liverpool isn’t it? but 33 goals in a debut season for a foreigner is phenomenal.
I have to agree that he found it tough against Ferdinand AND Vidic, 2 vs 1 usually means the 2 come out on top. this article should mention the part Vidic played in making Rio look so good…
Rio the best defender in the premiereship what a joke if you told me overrated and expensive you would have been spot on! Best defenders are carvalho, Skyrtel & Cannavaro.
How about you try and realise that carvalho was the only one to try and not kick him off the pitch as terry, ferdinand and vidic had no problem doing, which actually led to masch being sent off as torres got booked for being lashed three times by utd players to everyones surprise torres got booked and masch got sent off. And torres took such a kicking from utd defenders including hargreaves(filth) benitez had to take him off so as he wouldn’t get injured from utds tactics.
god yer heads are big eh – torres makes a comment about defenders in england and he doesnt single out Rio for ‘special’ comment?! give us a break… the poor kid managed to outscore all your strikers – even ‘rooney the great’
The more you talk about him like this the more it shows you lot fear him.you would love to have him in your team. you lot kicked him of the park but if you do that to ronaldo you cry about it
The game at Old Trafford was controlled by Steve Bennett – nuff said…
Colie you seriously here trying to defend Mascherano’s insanity by blaming it on United? Come on now, surely you have something better than that. Aside from it not being on topic, it’s a laugh. Your boy Mascherano had to be forcibly removed from the field. It was shameful, as even most scouse can admit.
That said, Rio outplayed Torres.. hands down. He wouldn’t stand for the diving and told el nino so throughout the matches. Those discussions should be welcomed, however, as they were the only indications that Torres was still on the pitch. To say that Ferdinand was kicking Torres off the pitch is bollocks. But no need to defend Rio, he’s clearly the best around in defense
Course Torres DID admit VDS was a keeper to be reckoned with.. and so, it seems he has a little sense still hidden away in there somewhere
Its easy to judge others … and even easier to react to anothers judgement …. I would be very careful if i was torres as his comments will attract greater attention next season …. but i would also aviod dissing his comments or again they could come back and be a problem next year …… I smiled at the comments as I thought thats all they deserved, you guys don’t need to react, just smile as you know who came out on top last season …..
Good luck for next season
Reikirebel
(LFC Fan)
Rio is a fantastic defender, Torres is a fantastic striker. However, if youre comparing like for like, Torres is in a different league to Rooney. Rooney can be fantastic but produces in about 10 games a season. For example, was Rooney even on the pitch in Moscow? It didnt seem like it!
Those comments will bite you on the ass next seaon sunny jim.
Just happens with some players. Hyypia used to have Van Nistelroy in his back pocket most games.
Trader, Torres produces in the big moments, especially away from Anfield, right?
Carvalho is the closest thing to Ferdinand out there. Obviously, Torres wouldn’t dare compliment Ferdinand because he’s never found a way around him and because Ferdinand just scares the shit out of him like Keane did to his midfield opponents but Ferdinand can take Torres’s comments as a compliment. Ferdinand is the only one out there who can match Torres’s speed and anticipate his every run. He gets rough on the kid as well and if that’s an excuse for not performing, then Ronaldo can walk off the pitch two minutes into every match.
did any scouser even make it to moscow??
“Ronaldo can walk off the pitch two minutes into every match.”
Yeap defo all the way to Madrid
Torres is a top striker but a fucking fairy. Rio is the best centre back in the world on current form. John Terry kicked lumps out of him in ECL semi and Torres obviosly doesn’t like being roughed up.
But in this country that is how the majority of players defend. Rio out paced and out classed him in both games.
torres was in spain being asked why he’d scored so many goals in england. he stated that the defences in general weren’t at the same level, which seems fair given his vastly increased scoring level. he singled out one defender, carvalho and a few keepers including yours. i wouldn’t take it as a slight to ferdinand who clearly had two great games against him. ronaldo certainly seems to be doing his best to walk off anyway…
A fairy that scored 24 PL goals. Wouldn’t mind some more of those fairys then!
You call Torres a fairy when Ronaldo throws a hissy fit every time somebody tackles him where as Torres gets on with it. That is why Torres scored more goals from open play than Ronaldo last season.
robbie keane best striker in premiership
Colie, Matthew….why are you on this site? It seems lfc fans have United on the brain 24/7. Look I know its hard to stomach watching United dominate English football and completing an easy league double over lfc year after year but dont be bitter. At the end of the day lfc are still easily the second biggest club in England and you should be proud of that.
“Torres is a top striker but a fucking fairy”
Ironic bearing in mind Manchester are trying to hold on for dear life to the Sugar Plum of all fairies.
Manchester United have the indian sign over Liverpool at the moment, that’s all.
A little bit like Middlesbrough over United, and Manchester City.
Liverpool lost at Old Trafford because they bottled it-plain and simple. They weren’t out thought, they just bottled it.
at least torres wants to stay at liverpool unlike ur waste of space ronaldo. ron dosent show up in big games and the only reason ur defence is any good this season is cos of vidic. the chavs from manchester will never outclass us so stop tryin to act like ur a great team. in fact it took u nine years to get to the final and the only reason ou won that was cos of a stingy solskaer goal. r.i.p united
Define biggest Gary…cos you’ve got loads of money? OR cos you’ve won one LESS league title and two LESS European cups? Obsessed with YOU?who sings anti LFC songs when you’re NOT even playing us? You wish you had our sense of self and pride. People are irritated by interesting opinions and identity NOT by bland corporate whoredom.
You stand for everything that’s bad in the football world. You’re not even based in the city of Manchester! Trafford United would be more apt ( or Cockney Red United)
Gary – we only end up on here because the page comes up on Newsnow for liverpool… most likely the same reason you mancs end up on the liverpool sites
re: gary
if you didnt notice liverpool have more trophies than utd so stop tryin to say u’s are better. Penalties that united gave away at the stretford end were never given to other teams and the so called ”respect” campaign seems to ave only been used wen we were playin u’s. wat about nani?? you will always be in liverpools shadow!!!!!!!!
Trader, Torres produces in the big moments, especially away from Anfield, right?
yeah inter millian comes to mind and chelsea
“second biggest”
18 league titles to your 17
5 european cups to your 3
Gary- genius mate!
Colie- shit for brains, parroting the drivel from el nino, would you have said the sane before Torres’s comments? Didn’t think so!
Trader- seriously silly!
Matthew- your point?? Sheesh.
SCOUSERS FCUK OFF OUT OF HERE, YOU HAVEN’T DIDDLY SQUAT ON UNITED!!!!
HA Ha typical scousers living in the past no championship for is 18 years!!
Move on boys!! your beloved Carrahhhhhhhhhh is one of the dirtiest and overated defenders in the league!!
Go back to your own site!!
and Ps Champions!!
C.Andrewas- how many of the 18 league titles and 5 european cups were in your lifetime? If they were., what bearing do they have on here and now?? Sheesh, another punky scouser hits the floor!!
I agree that Liverpool is still the most succesfull club in England.
But seriously, when was the last time liverpool won the league title? They’ve not even won the EPL to begin with. And they last won the CL in 2005 while we’re newly crowned European Champs.
My point here is, spare us from boredom as we’re not interested in history lessons. Face the fact that we’re the better team than Liverpool at this very moment.
Your 18 titles and 5 cups are just facts from history. Those facts wont deliver you any winning formula, just *yawn* lame bragging rights. We’ll overtake that rights someday too.
You guys are just consistently INCONSISTENT.
Thats why Rafael is always ‘beneath-us’ (Benitez)
And geez, so what if most United fans are outside of Manchester? You don’t win trophies based on your supporters’ identity, dont you?
P/s: I’d RATHER walk alone
the fact that all you are even paying attention to his comments underlines the class and quality of the player….
As a liverpool playereven i would admit It is true to say that man poo played us out the park in both matches, tho maybe be with alttle from that b****** ref ….
But usually it is liverpool who destroy man united without getting the correct end result….
As for rio he no doubt is a good defender… and believe me its hurts me to to say any of this….. but John ‘ hogga’ terry is far better….
Anyway get ready for a whoopin this season…… youv had your fun
ref red devil 87
it is a while since we won the league
but does it really matter what name it has ? first division epl who cares same competition..and as for the history lesson
you cant escape your history especially when its as good as ours..but the gap isnt as big as you like to think (or as your gob)heres a few boring stats seeing as you like a yawn..most clean sheets..liverpool most goles scored this season in all comp…liverpool most players with double figures…liverpool (6 in all nearest was chelsea with 3) lost less games than yous… reserves win almost everything …fergie about to retire ….ronaldo leaving..yeah its all looking bright for yous right now…were on the way up back were we belong…hope yous enjoyed it while it lasted cos its about to end ……..in rafa we trust
RedDevil87, well done for recognising that it’s a long time since we last won the Champions League. Three years is too long considering we are the no. 1 ranked club in Europe and got to keep our most recent trophy by winning it five times. Even Chelsea and Arsenal are ranked higher than United in the Champions League seedings. But with only two semi final appearances in the eight years between 99 and 08 it’s clear why you are in the shadow of Europe’s elite.
With all the big talk about man u being great the big truth is Mr Fergi saved your club from oblivion 25 YEARS it took you to win the prem and it was arsnal who broke our dominance not fergi.But fergi is a great manager and you man u boys will relise this most when barren times return even fergi cannot beat farther time.
Gary, you kindof make a mockery of your own stats there. Chelsea and Arsenal are ranked higher than United… yet neither have ever won a European Cup whereas United have won 2 in the past 9 years lol.
bah….liverpool fans. Thats what they always say and thats the ONLY thing they can say after yet another season of mediocrity, which is “watch out for next season!” and etc.
Fine, lets just wait and see. I’m always one thats keen on looking towards the future, regardless of it being bright or bleak.
But at least I’m definitely not one that dwells on past history, reminiscing cups that have been mostly won when most of the 20 and below year olds are still too young to know what football is…
As for the boring stats of liverpool’s season, its not quite a DOUBLE eh? Don’t resent me as I currently have the bragging rights cos we’re the new champs of Europe.
But mark my words, I’ll definitely start all equal with you guys when season 2008-09 kicks off.
For now, lets enjoy EURO
God it must be sad to be a scouser, to know deep in your heart that the glory days are long gone, that your club is on the way to obscurity, no money poor owners worse fans, etc. No wonder they read United web sites, can you imangine how sad their sites must be? Must be all crying and wait til next year shit. I feel your pain it must be difficult to watch all the success and adulation United deservingly get and think it could have been if only my parents didn’t condemn me to a life of shitty teams and bad songs. Still at least your not chelski, oh that’s right they’re better than you too sorry
Btw, i was referring to the new liverpool fans aged 21 and below. Dont talk history and pride with us if you’re just relying on YouTube replays of your old cup triumps, and then claiming that you’re lifelong Pool fans who have the greater history.
Yes Tommy, “In Rafa we DO trust” United!!!
Look out here come the dippers!
untd have won 1 less lge titles
(although they have won ten since the dippers won their last one so in a 2 or 3 years that will be over taken)
5 european cups v 3 will take a but longer but it will happen
and we won’t be responsible for the deaths of any innocents on the way either
ps torres didnt get a kick v rio twice last year read it and weep dippers
ps its no wonder yesterday was written by scouser thats all they bang on about
while we are going on abou thistory, just remeber who were the first english club to play in europe the first english club to win the european cup
thats the thing with history someone else’s is always bigger and better
“Rio Ferdinand is the best center back in the world”………………. HAHAHAHAHA that has got to be the funniest thing i have ever heard. I see him make more mistakes then anyone else at man united. He plays with no passion, he lacks intelligence, he wants to be England captain thinking his previous drug scandle (however many years ago) will not come into account. The guy just comes across as an absolute joke
and we won’t be responsible for the deaths of any innocents on the way either
The ramblings of a prick.
Manchester United I am sure are proud to have ridiculously stupid knobheads like you supporting them.
Were you even alive during Heysel or Hillsborough?
This is about football, not the deaths of people who’s relatives still feel their loss.
Stupid cunt,
spare me the fake moral outrage u scouse twat
we all hear your mob mocking munich game in game out do me a favour and fuck off back to your own sites
im sure the people of turin feel their loss but of course there is no justice for the 39
lpool fans blamed that on chelsea based NF supporters
then it was the south yorkshire police for hills borough
and when your own fans beat each othe rup and attacked other for tickets in athens that was uefas fault
nothing is ever your fans fault is it?
do me a favour and hold a minutes silence for your hurt feelings you scouse prick
red dawn:
If you’d like to make a decent case, it might help to know 1) how to spell Skrtel, and 2) that Cannavaro doesn’t play in England.
As it stands, you’re a moron.
ps 3 more classic examples of liverpool fans behaving in their usual fashion
attacking the ambulance carrying alan smith, giving death threats to gerrard after he handed in a transfer request and threatening local news paper reporter chris bascombe just for daring to work for a paper they do not approve of
uefa had it right when they awarded you the title of the worst fans in europe (and that is the only thing you have won
in recent years)
at fat rafa and the dippers we laugh
well said sunraged theres always some wanker who lowers the tone…
talking about disasters..i thought it was fitting that man u won the champs lge seeing as it was the anniversary of the babes..although i dont think i would feel the same had it been us in the final.but anyway congrats(that was hard)to all mancs on here except that wanker jimmy bob..your a fuckin disgrace leave the dead alone
when you start taking your own fans to task for their munich chants ill take more notice of you
untill then i have nothing but contempt for lpool fc and their fans
if you don’t like sorry i could care less
ref munich chants..as i said theres always some wankers..remember busby was at liverpool first
Nah Tommy, I still think its funnier that Man United won 2 big trophies and Liverpool won none last season. Nuff said
tommy.. why don’t you come back when you win something… any kind of title… it doesn’t even have to be one that fell into the real treble
and aging keeper? first, try stepping out of liverpool to find someone who can spell aging. then… take a look – our “aging” keeper is the best around. maybe you could do with someone a little more experienced in your goal eh? no? well, maybe next year
CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND!!!!
CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE!!!!!!!!!
in kazakstan only dogs support scousers
“spare me the fake moral outrage u scouse twat
we all hear your mob mocking munich game in game out do me a favour and fuck off back to your own sites
im sure the people of turin feel their loss but of course there is no justice for the 39
lpool fans blamed that on chelsea based NF supporters
then it was the south yorkshire police for hills borough
and when your own fans beat each othe rup and attacked other for tickets in athens that was uefas fault
nothing is ever your fans fault is it?
do me a favour and hold a minutes silence for your hurt feelings you scouse prick”
Whilst I appreciate you’re attempt to retaliate, I would, if I may draw your attention to a couple of points:
1) This was, until you decided to start deliberately trying to antagonise some of the posters on this board, a discussion about Torres and Ferdinand.
2) Whether I am truly morally outraged or not, you remain an imbecillic prick-whether from Manchester or not (I couldn’t give a fuck where you’re from) for tring to make yourself popular on a fucking computer by posting distasteful comments about a footballing disaster.
3) It may surprise you to know that the majority of Liverpool fans are disgusted by so called fans who chant about Munich
4) The majority of post pubescent Manchester United fans would consider you a cunt for making references to Heysel.
Oh, and 5) Don’t waste your time trying to engage in a pissing contest with me-start goimg out, get real friends, find other ways to feel good about yourself.
What I find strange is Liverpool fans on RoM. Obsessed?
Not at all, this article is listed on the Liverpool section of NewsNow and as a consequence, this article is fair game.
Obsessed?
Passionate?
Fanatical?
Possibly, hell probably.
Whatever our feelings towards one another – Can we all just unite behind our seething hatred for Chelsea?
sunraged clam down youll give yourself a heart attack
no one here cares about your houlier than thouh bull shit scouse drivel
now fuck off and talk about “your history” somewhere else you dopey scouse cunt
ps i find it strange than someone like youself posting on a internet forum
has a pop at someone else posting on a internet forum
yet more double standards from a liverpool fan (surprise surprise)
Why are people saying were obssesed because we come on here?
this appears on the liverpool section on news now.
Were obsessed? your the one wrighting about torres because you wish he had joined you.
and people are saying “what do all those records mean now” trademark of a glory hunter- oh dear.
HIS ARMBAND PROVED HE WAS A RED TORRES TORRES
C Andrews – I personally find it embarrassing that you ripped off a John O’Shea chant for your precious Torres.
“I want to be a red he said, Torres, Torres.
We turned him down and then we signed Tevez, Tevez
Now he’s playing for the scouse,
When he’s away they’ll rob his house,
Fernando Torres, Liverpool’s full of crime”
Well dont forget you have to come to fortress Anfield next seaon. What is it 6 years unbeaten 5 years of winning their. Shudnt we get 2 keep it?
Oh and history is important who could forget the treble season but when your talkin about over a generation ago, is that not like a Nottingham Forest fan thinking they are still a big team?
Just to add United are clealry the biggest team in England by a long strecth and to suggest diefferntly because of trophies would be like saying Arsenal Chelsea and Blackburn are bigger then Liverpool as they have at least all won the Premier League!!!
I thought Steve Bennett was MOM at Old Trafford, never has one man had such an influence on a game.
so technically it was 10 man Liverpool against Man Utd’s 14.
Just imagine what it would be like, if the teams were playing on a level field.
yes it was bennett who missed that cross for browns goal
it was bennett who hurled abuse time after time at the ref including telling him to fuck off
it was bennett who left ronaldo unmarked from a corner
and it was bennett who let nani have all the time in the world to run unchallenged and pick his spot to make it 3 nil
another deluded dipper
ps level playing field maybe anfiield earlier in the year? hmm 1 nil united
oh dear in rafa we trust lol
Define biggest? Well I think you will find United’s history goes further back then Liverpool’s. Liverpool were not even a big team before the late 60′s and Everton were the most recognised club in Liverpool. United dwarf Liverpool for fame and glamour. Even when you were dominating in the 70′s and 80′s you had a chip on your shoulder bcause United would receive more attention from the media then you. United introduced European football to England, were its pioneers. United have far more famous players, far bigger history, far more charisma then Liverpool. Now get back to your lfc fanzine websites and behave yourselfs!
lfc = 30 miles from greatness and self pity city
You need a goal but take him off Torres, Torres, Hes a hit but your still shit, Torres, Torres, you brought the lad from sunny Spain then went and won FUCK ALL AGAIN! Fernando Torres Liverpool’s number 9
nananananananana
lfc fans like so many Manchester United are the object of your facination
As for the laughable Steve Bennet excuses going around I would like to point out something. In the last 6 league visits to Anfield United have won 5 and drawn 1, we have won the last 4 on the spin at Old Trafford and in 8 league games Benitez has managed 1 draw and 7 defeats and scoring only 1 goal which was an own goal by John O shea in a game we won 2-1. Have you got excuses for all these results aswel?
reply to Scott the red
Arsenal and Chelsea are ranked above United?????? I dont understand that statement one little bit? Ranked above us in what?
As for all the comments about United fans not being from Manchester thats just hypocritical coming from lfc. Spot the scouser on the kop!
so technically it was 10 man Liverpool against Man Utd’s 14.
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actually no, it was actually 8 man Liverpool against 12 man United. No Mascherano, Gerrard and Torres in your side plus the awesome Old Trafford roar on United’s side.