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Manchester is RED

Manchester is red at Mancunia Merchandise.

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Football attendances since the 1940′s: United vs City
Yet they will insist Manchester is blue
They couldn’t sell all their tickets


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Scott is the editor of Red Matters - 50 Years of Supporting Manchester United and an author of Play Like Fergie's Boys and Not Nineteen Forever. He writes for ESPN, The Metro and Bleacher Report. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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29 Comments

  1. Schmucks says:

    Guys, is it true that if England manage to get to host the 2018 WC, the capacity of Old Trafford will be increase to 95 000 ? Or is it just a speculation.

  2. Red Simmo says:

    I think in all fairness the attendance doesnt prove one way or another whether Manchester is red or not.

    However we need look no further than Dr Adam Brown (Manchester Metro University) and his analysis of the location of all season ticket holders at United & City.

    Conclusion – more United fans who have a Manchester postcode as their home address go to United matches than City fans attending theirs.

  3. MG says:

    It’s polemic ;)

  4. bchilds says:

    @ Schmucks

    We can’t fill 76,000 so I don’t see the point in wasting money redeveloping the South Stand at present

  5. SITS says:

    Do I get a free mug for doing the original graph? :)

  6. Costas says:

    Massive ownage!

  7. MG says:

    Next time refer to the “map”
    :)

  8. United1990 says:

    It wouldn’t be anything if it wasn’t red

  9. CedarsDevil says:

    Massive club, massive support and a massive trophy cabinet to boost (empty of course but hell they can afford a large one)

  10. ajopaul says:

    SITS, thanks for the graph! If the capacity is increased, then definitely we will be able to fill the seats.. however that would need reduced prices in tickets too..

  11. Scott the Red says:

    Red Simmo – I disagree. The people coming to watch United play in the 40′s and 50′s will have exclusively been from Manchester. So whatever happened after that, with people drawn to the club from all over because of the Babes and then ’68, it doesn’t change the fact more Mancunians were supporting the club in the 40s and 50s. Your club gets passed down from one generation to the next. Did all those United fans from the 40s and 50s later swap red for blue? Obviously not.

  12. Doghouse says:

    I think they need to expand Old Trafford for when the Glazers fuck off. It’s nearly full every game now, and there’s got to be thousands, even tens of thousands, of fans who either don’t go to matches with the Glazers running the show or who old go once every so often. When the Glazers are out the place is going to be heaving.

  13. kinny says:

    of course the seats will be filled. the only reasons there have been a few empty seats this season is due to the glazers ie protests,seat prices n there is a bit of a recession goin on ! the redevelopment of the south stand is well overdue n once the glazers are gone things will return to normal very quickly. as for is manchester red ? the citeh PR team have been on overdrive on this one for years but only a fool would believe manchester is blue.

  14. Utd4life says:

    Manchester is Red!!!!!which other colour is there???

  15. bchilds says:

    Would you really prefer millions being spent on bringing the South Stand up to North Stand capacity? I think if we had all the money in the world then it would be a great thing to do but if it’s increase OT capacity or spend the money on top players who will help us win trophies it has to go on playing personnel.

  16. someguy says:

    according to the news Manchester is white

  17. wayne says:

    @bchilds i’m sure if it was going to be expanded for the world cup goverment money would be invovled

  18. Red Simmo says:

    @ Scott

    you must also understand that in the 40′s and 50′s there were many fans who followed both clubs so that they got a weekly fix of football.

    My point was that factually you cannot prove local support by virtue of mass – but this was proved by Dr Brown’s analysis which is based on fact.

  19. Scott the Red says:

    Simmo – The Dr Brown’s analysis was based on season ticket holders. My local pub is red, there’s a handful of blues, but only a few in there actually have season tickets. The price of season ticket at City has been considerably cheaper than at United, long before the Glazers.

    There were many fans that followed both teams, you’re totally right, but MORE followed United. We were playing at Maine Road and still more people came to watch United play than City.

    bchilds – The World Cup is 2018. I suppose anyone talking of us building up the South Stand doesn’t envisage the Glazers still being here then, therefore the club would have no bother filling a 90k seater stadium.

  20. willierednut says:

    I don’t even wanna think of the Glazers being here in 2018.

  21. Red Simmo says:

    Scott – I am not in disagreement with you. But your season ticket holder is generally considered to be the foundation of your core support. The very fact that United have just as many non manc supporters as city pretty much throws the myth of our southern fan base out of the window – which is largely why, as local reds, we feel the need to post and comment when ever a stat comes along to prove otherwise.

    The additional fact that after relegation United still had the highest average attendance in the land also dismisses the glory hunting aspect because even in those days united did have a lot of travelling support especially from Birmingham and London. It was only during our success from the 90′s onwards that these fans were wrongly apportioned this tag by the bitter blue quadrant of town.

  22. wayne says:

    @Red Simmo i supported utd home and away through the dark days of relegation/1st division and i came from grimsby so your right utds support from all over britain goes way back before all the continued success

  23. Red Simmo says:

    @ Wayne
    In those days people were in awe of our following and the fact that so many fans had incredible loyalty to travel vast distances during dire times on the pitch.

    its such as shame that such loyalty is now considered to be glory hunting.

    Unfortunately it is the modern day Mr & Mrs Southfan from Essex with their children Tarquin and Chardonnay who claim to have supported “Maaaan Yewwwww” since we won the treble and make sure they get interviewed on Sky Sports 5 hours before kick off that taint such loyalty of fans like yourself.

    I tip my hat to you sir!

  24. wayne says:

    @Red Simmo thanks man there was 4 of us who were diehards but for many games we’d fill a mini bus,yeah we truly were the red army in them days thousands would travel to away games it was a rush.i know what you mean about the prawn sandwich brigade always show up were its cool to be

  25. Schmucks says:

    Im pretty sure the government will provide money for the extension of the stadium. If they were to expand Old Trafford to 95k seater stadium, we would have the biggest stadium in the nation and second largest in the world. Got to agree with Scott, we will have no problem what so ever filling a 90k + seater stadium. Provided, the Glazers are already dead by end of the season or so. And if England manage to host the 2018 WC, i reckon Old Trafford should host the final. hahah.

  26. willierednut says:

    There’s reports England haven’t got the WC.

  27. wayne says:

    what a joke russias got the wc that shit is so corupt

  28. Shantharam says:

    City is was and always will be Shitty… If Football were a religion Manchester United would be god…

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