The Manchester United squad have had an exhausting and emotionally-draining 2011-12 season, and for some a well-deserved break is in the offing after a rigorous campaign. However, with the big summer tournament just round the corner, a contingent of Sir Alex Ferguson’s men will have little rest before heading to Ukraine and Poland with their respective countries. The Betfair Euro 2012 odds could well be impacted by the performances and abilities of Red Devils personnel this summer – here’s who may well feature at the 2012 European Championships for United:
David de Gea – The United number one has been included in Vicente del Bosque’s squad for the international friendlies against Serbia and South Korea, and has a chance of being included in the final squad for Euro 2012. However, with Iker Casillas as captain, De Gea chances of gametime are very small.
Anders Lindegaard – The five-times capped stopper has been included in Denmark’s squad for the tournament, but similar to De Gea will need to oust the more experienced Thomas Sorensen to play.
Patrice Evra – The United full-back will be a key player for the French national side this summer, and will most likely face club team-mates in the opener against England. With Eric Abidal’s health issues, Evra will be up against Gael Clichy for a place in Laurent Blanc’s side.
Phil Jones – The former Blackburn man’s versatility could well be a factor for Roy Hodgson’s men this summer, and Jones will compete for a place in the centre and on the right flank of England’s defence.
Nani – Along with former United man Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani will be charged with helping Portugal out of the ‘Group of Death’ and be one of the Iberian nation’s most dangerous attackers.
Ashley Young – Young could well be a wild card for the Three Lions this summer, and is one of Roy Hodgson’s most incisive attackers. The former Aston Villa man could well start for England, on either flank
Wayne Rooney – England’s top forward Wayne Rooney is suspended for the first two games of the competition, but will look to return in the final group stage fixture against Ukraine to seal qualification.
Danny Welbeck – The home-grown forward has had a strong season at Old Trafford and was duly rewarded with a place in the England squad. With Rooney’s suspension Welbeck will hope to play, and may partner his club team-mate up front once both are available.
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Quick Get David Gill to get the camera out and go shopping
Wouldn’t bother me at all if they all went out in the group stages so our players can rest.
Irelands going to win it anyway!!!
Yawn. It is going to be a long, long summer. Can’t wait for real football to resume.
Will be interesting to see if we buy any players on the back of a good performance; like Proborski!
No offence lads . But an early team choker with no united injuries please . Back home in time for a long summer break.
Then cheer on the spaniards and Germans .
A betting thread about the Euros?
Will De Gea make the Spanish squad? They already have Casillas, Valdez and Reina. Talk about stacked.
I’d say De Gea’s already better than Reina but I don’t think he’ll make the squad.
Thanks Admin! An interesting thread, with many of our stars on show.
A relief too, for those whose browsers become drowsy after 600 comments.
Good luck to all our players! As I browse the Euro fields, it is only you I will be rooting for.
Drogba just confirmed leaving Chelski….replacement for mickey owen?
LOL
Costas
With his distribution from the back De Gea could get a game at CB!!
Evens left foot
We could do a lot worse than bringing Drogba in for a season or two. Pretty sure he’d add to the development of our other strikers too! Looks like he’s off to the far east though.
Out of our internationals this summer who is going to be the shining light?? I’m going to go for Young!!
Can you imagine Rooney and Drogba starting?! The opposing CB’s would be sh***ng it!
Hope our lads comeback without injured & have good summer vacations.
Read the previous thread I just knew today is Costas’ Birthday.
HAPPY B’DAY Mate!
U share the same birthday with our Bestie. U Lucky U!
If by some miracle England have a decent tournament with players like Wellbeck and Jones giving a good account of themselves. It would do them the world of good.
People should wish all our players well. I know they are likely to become scapegoats when things go wrong but that’s all part of being a United player.
It never did Beckham any harm.
I hope all United players taking part have a successful tournament and return for pre season full of confidence.
I also think if England are to get anything from the first game Ashley Young will need to have his shooting boots on because I can’t see anyone else scoring.
I can’t see Danny getting a game against France. It will probably be the pikey with young supporting.
Admin never mentioned the best bet of the tournament. France to beat England 2.78 on betfair.
Anyone into F1? Just checked the odds of a Brit on the podium at Monaco this weekend
Jenson Button 20-1
Lewis Hamilton 10-1
John Terry 2-1
I hope they all do well also, I think it is a little selfish to hope that they fail just because they play for Manchseter United, who doesn’t want to do well for their country. There is more of an emotional tie when a player represents their country. The better the players do for their country the more confident they will feel. Look at Chicharito as an example, he did well at the 2010 World Cup and came to United full of confidence knowing that he performed against very good teams at the tournament. I’m always happy when our players do well internationally.
Happy Birthday to Georgie Best!
Evras left foot. I would take Drogba on a free in a heartbeat mate.
Anyone know if Miguel Delaney is for real? Check him on twitter
any views on this one?
thefootballproject.net/2012/05/22/dont-expect-a-summer-spending-spree-from-manchester-united/
Vilhelm – Miguel Delaney is very reliable.
Drogba on a free?
to much cons for me.
wages high as fuck. He’ll fuck around if he’s not playing regularly.
As many have said, I hope every team with a United player gets kicked in the first round.
With King Eric on this one, would love Drogba for a couple of seasons, just cannot see it happening though
I will be supporting Costa Rica in this tournament, should they fail than its St Lucia
Drogba would be half the player at United. We clamp down on diving.
He has been a feared opponent for years, but my hate will be hard to quell should he join us.
Never happen, nor should it. A top player that we’re better off without.
Manchester City confirm they’ve released Owen Hargreaves. Gunther von Hagens is favourite to pick him up next…………….fuckin brilliant………….i guess gunther wont touch tevez……….no hope there….lol.
Danny could come back from this tournament a world star if he plays and steps up in Rooney’s absence and bags a few goals.
I hope Nani has a good summer with him missing the last World Cup with injury.
I can totally understand how some may feel about Drogba and I respect that, personally though I really like him…Top bloke, especially off the pitch
Rather have Torres at 18/20 mill any day.
What’s that Hargreaves released? Well that open shim up to be signed by another top club. Cedars perhaps he can get St. Lucian citizenship in time for the Euros.
LSR
That would be swell! A dream island in my books, I even get their monthly news letter!!
Cedars- totally agree re Drog. He does annoy me when he goes down easy as hes built like a barn door. imagine if SAF had signed him 8 years back. Hes reputed to be China bound on 200,000/week. Playing for the same club as Anelka. The forementioned having issues with management so we will see. maybe City will sign him and only play him against chelsea. Nothing would surprise me with them.
Owen -Steve Austin- Hargreves . Fergie fergie dont sign him up.
Drogba is off to the middle east. where the oil are flowing, the sun is shining and riches are plentiful. Why would people even contemplate him joining united? has won everything and he’ll earn millions over there, more than most clubs could ever offer. Retirement earnings as they call it, set up for a long time of enjoyment.
Thought the Drog is off to China? Besides, is oil a drink?
Redbilly
Hargo would love to be re built like Steve was!
Torres is a busted flush. Drogba has been a top player, but we won’t get him. Fergie talked about bringing in younger players, hence, why the Berb is leaving.
Cedars – so it isn’t the middle east then? fuck, that must be the first time they’ve been out-bid. Oh well, china or kilimanjaro, he’ll still earn millions and he won’t be lambasted for wanting to roll on the grass so much, that seems a crime in the premier league.
Cedars- in the austin tracksuit, with that hair he would look like a scouser, and he could run as fast as a scouser avoiding the police.
Drogba at United o_O…..
I imagine that Micheal Owen will replace his namesake at City. Knowing how those chaps think….then Hargreaves is signed by Chelsea. Now that is why I miss Barter trading
Redbilly
Thanks, just pissed my self! Underwear bill on the way!!
Cedars
Should they both fail I’ll be supporting the South Pacific
Sammy Sam Samuel
The Chinese have the cash mate as well as an excellent cuisine
MG
Bora Bora all the way, always were my second team of sorts
I personally thought Drogba would be enlisting himself in the National Ballet
Cedars
I can live with that – Bora Bora our second team – Beat that Dubai!
willie has pretty much nailed it on the head regarding why we wouldn’t get Drogba. It contradicts Berbatov’s marginalization and possible departure. After seeing his form this season (a true matchwinner!), even I am tempted to see him at the club. But it won’t happen. If he’s leaving Chelsea, he’s going somewhere where he will get paid a shitload of money. And that won’t be us.
@TheCANTONA
Cheers mate! I share the same birthday as the great George Best, but I am 1/100 the player he was and 1/1000 the drinker he was.
In other news: Hargreaves to make City exit
Midfielder Owen Hargreaves will leave Manchester City on the expiry of his contract this summer, the Premier League club have confirmed.
good job Hargo sticking a finger in united’s eye.
@Mikekelly
You know, with Spain’s shortage at CBs, he could be an option. He just needs to work on his aerial presence.
Manchester United are proud to announce linking our great club with Bora Bora
SAF: No doubt about that, we will be sending our best supporters for a free holiday starting with Cedars and MG
David Gill: I will be accompanying the two lucky chosen ones and shall upload the photographs ASAP – sponsored by Sony – capturing great pictures as nature intended.
Costas
I pretty much see where you’re coming from but Willie cannot nail fuck. come on be serious….
MG
Ha ha, will we be using Asia airlines and sitting on Audi seats?
On the Eden Hazard issue. this man is asking for 200,000 pounds A WEEK and he also wants a 6 million euros fee for his agent. WTF? Please United forget him and go for Shinji Kagawa who is much cheaper and is not far off from Eden Hazard in talent. I f we lose Kagawa to flipping Arsenal i’ll be really angry.
Cedars- the scouse are always good for a laugh
Happy Birthday : GEORGE BES7 !
dannysoya – don’t think we will lose Kagawa to Arsenal. I think Fergie has more or less bound him to the club when they met.
dannysoya – my theory is that he’s only asking that of City. Let’s be honest, players need a little extra “incentive” to sign for that club. So if he’s going to play for a shit club like them, they’re going to have to make it worth his while. That’s probably why City are baulking at his agent’s demands – because they know he’s not asking the same from other clubs.
Cedars
Absolutely Cedars – we will also be wearing Hublot watches eating Mister Potato crisps and drinking Casillero del Diablo wine.
We will also have to wear DHL t shirts shorts and sandals.
zelh – I agree. Shinji-san will have given his word that he will sign, and everyone knows that a Japanese man’s word is as good as his bond.
Evening reds,
I just hope Jonesy will smack that Balotelli cunt if at all England face Italy..
Have high expectations on Danny Boy..
Go reds, play great football but be injury free please..
MG
Can we ditch the shorts? They sort of give me an itch in me privates…….Plus can we bring Jimmy James along? We need someone to laugh at, sorry I mean WITH
I bet we let kagawa slip because of penny pinching, this was a slam dunk deal and a much needed one an we messing it up
I bet we let kagawa slip because of penny pinching, this was a slam dunk deal and a much needed one an we messing it up
How do you know we’re messing it up?
Slip? Why??? Did we need him in the first place?
Yes we need him, he’s fucking class.
I’d say we do.
We need a midfielder who can score goals.
Scholes can’t play week in week out. Get’s barely 90 minutes out of himself.
Cleverley is injury-prone, Anderson performs for 3 matches only to dip in form for the next 3 months.
No we do NOT need him, what we need is character, someone to boss the team and urge them on….
What we need is quality in midfield.
You can say what you want, but we have more quantity, than quality.
CedarsDevil@
No we don’t need an intelligent composed, great technique midfielder, scholes alone will do right
According to the dude I talked about earlier in this thread SAF is in for Kagawa, Baines, Hazard and the polish dude. United have put in bids for the first three. He also states that if Hazard slips SAF will go for Modrich.
Just stating what the guy is saying, not my words. Seems SAF is ready to take the crown back
Roy Keane?
Cedars – LOL let’s just sign John Terry or Scott Parker in that case.
Vilhelm – He just said that we had a bit for Lewandowski rejected. Said we’d most likely sign a Baines, Kagawa and 2 others. Assuming another midfielder and a striker.
Vilhelm28 – Were you talking to Fergie? The dude? That’s what the Berb calls him!
Heard bitters are releasing the pig?
how about we having a second shot at Hargo then?
Cedars – Someone to urge the players on? Jimmy Tarzan James!
Fred
Being serious mate, what we’ve lacked is not creativity but leadership……As much as I love Evra, he is NO leader and neither is Vidic….Since RedNev has gone we have not replaced him……
Like Willie says, boy could we do with a Keano right now
Willie
Jimmy will drive them mad mate!!
We need quality and consistency. Both things we lacked in the last season in midfield. I’m not taking anything away from Carrick, but he needs a consistent quality player next to him.
Things both Cleverley and Anderson lack atm.
Sir Alex will take back the crown, with or without new signings..
Bring back the Fletcherinho, he will eat them alive..
Get well soon homie..
Jones for midfield
any one thinks he can/should be converted into a CM, IF
Fletcher doesnt return ; not in all matches ; not generally with Carrick is partners
- wish he was not selected for Euros so we could work on him
Picture of Ji-Sung Park taken today. I think he will become the leader of South Korea one day.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/new/2012/05/23/sports/images/30182606-01_big.jpg
He and Rio play tonight in the Asian Dream Cup charity match
Williered, no the dude being the journo miguel delaney
Fred@
We should have had some kind of fee agreed complete with personal terms. This should be a slam dunk deal buut one again we are making a mountain of things, the factors state that the club as to sell and the player wants United so win win right
Evening Albertex,
thanks for the link,
such a humble guy this Park…
The most popular and effective Asian footballer over the years!!.
Cedars – I agree that we need plenty of character as well as technically gifted players. I’d love a hard bastard in central midfield as well, giving players like Rafael, Jones, Evra and anyone else who needs it a rocket up their arses when they misplace a pass or get caught out of position. I really think we miss that Keano/Neville type in the squad, letting our young players know the standards that are expected of them.
I think I said on here last season, my fear is that we are becoming a soft touch, or as I put it, a bunch of fannies like Arsenal. I think the fact that we blew an 8 point lead with 6 games to go suggests I was right.
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Eden Hazard has gone to the bathroom…
facebook users can join ROM on FB,
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awaiting Cedars dig at this
nani4ever – Kagawa is on international duty with Japan for the past week. They have a few games coming up in the next couple of weeks, so he’s busy with that. He’ll sign for us after he gets back from Japan.
Fred
We were clear and we were also behind were we not? We lost the league, city did not win it. All that with no investment whatsoever. If we had a leader on the pitch we would not have drawn against Everton
Sandy
Dig at what darling? Need to sign in to see your link, not for me thanks
Happy Birthday Costas…have a great birthday!
@ Sandeep, Fred and all my fellow REDS, good evening!
FA and Woy have pulled out a hat from a rabbit by naming Martin Kelly ahead of Micah Richards for the match against Norway! Epic fail!
@ Sandeep
Cedars won’t be interested in joining the FB group unless you give him the following URL to access the page:
http://www.RVP‘sfacebook.com/cedarsorgasmgallery
Cedars,
its a pity, you can’t see what we are discussing there about you
as expected, MG is on a roll there,
I opened the group as just members group and now the fuckers have turned it into blog/chat or whatever
kidding 
nani4ever – Clearly, you’ve no understanding of how transfers work? It’s not like going to the supermarket. The De gea one rumbled on for a long time, but we got it done in the end. Just chill mate….
nani4ever – How are we letting it slip? Are you privy to the negotiations or summat pal?
Lets not bash on Cleaverly. Had a couple of serious knocks. Mostly from really bad tackles and so not his fault. Also Giggs and Scholes were both considered injury prone and at times almost considered wastes of space. Tom is a gem who will come good.
Clevs had 1 bad knock which was down to that bastard Kevin Davies, i’m glad his team got relegated the anti football cunt
on a funnier note….
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/05/lfc-to-sign-frustrated-30m-striker-in.html
Was watching some old games the other day and FUCK ME do we miss Fletcher. We really do. Top drawer player. Ball winner, tenacious, good passer of the ball. Had the lot. A HUGE miss.
Prasan,
Evening mate,
yeah thats a good idea to bring the bugger on FB
But he wont, i know, hez got steel balls
FLETCH – well said mate. You beat me to it. Cleverley isn’t injury prone just been very unlucky. Well he may be injury prone , who knows but I feel its too early to label him that. What the fuck am I talking about? Fuck knows.
King Eric
You can bet your left nut we miss Fletch, fuck me how good was he?
I m sorry reds if i hurt you guys,
Tom C and injury prone? Just because of last season?
Rooney gets injured once or twice every season!!
but he is not injury prone..is he?
this is utter bull shit..
##
King Eric,
indeed mate,
we have missed Fletch massively..
just hope he will get well soon, football or not
King Eric
You been smoking fella?!
as i said in my earlier posts,
Fletcherinho will eat them alive!!
Although we’ve missed Fletch, i wouldn’t say he’s a good passer. He keeps it simple, anything fancy is above and beyond him.
We’ve sorely missed his energy, along with Anderson, who needs to sort his weight problem out, i do hope he leaves in the summer mind you. He’s had ample opportunity and just can’t stay fit.
I’ve said it before on here, don’t hold your breath on Darren returning, it’s a nasty energy sapping illness.
King Eric smokes?
FUCK!! Welcome aboard mate
WillieRedNut@
De gea, was a different scenario, nun of the billionaire owned teams were interested in him. So we had a clear run it was up to us convincing de gea to leave his home town, in the case of kagawa arsenal are interested (even doah
M19ke,
evening mate,
KE aint back to anything and this is his reply,
”
Let me formally reintroduce myself to you for those of you who don’t know
The new mes back to the old me and homie I don’t show no
Signs of slowin up, pullin up, blowin up, all over no mo
My life is no longer a movie but the shows aint over homos
I’m back with a vengeance homie weezy keep ya head up
”
Courtesy – Em
Instead of bashing Cleverley, how about we bash the cunt who gave him that injury? Trust me, if it weren’t for that idiotic neanderthal named Kevin Davies, we would’ve had a fully fit Cleverley this season. It amazes me that that tackle went unpunished.
Darren NOT a good passer? Watch some football lad
Mike LOVES the blue moon and he has his blue pyjamas on and on and on,
He loves the Cunt Tevez who keeps fucking it up on and on and on!
WillieRedNut@
sorry for the incomplete post, posting off a my blackberry
De gea, was a different scenario, nun of the billionaire owned teams were interested in him. So we had a clear run it was up to us convincing de gea to leave his home town, in the case of kagawa arsenal are interested (even thou they are in a worst possition than us) chelsea are interested an shitty are probably waiting to throw in a double what ever we bid offer so the longer this gets drawn out the less possible it becomes for us which is so fucking sad and unbelievable how far we have fallen
So it seems like we are losing it right in May itself..never mind the mayhem awaiting us in July and August! Dearie me!
Prasan
You’re frigging nuts mate……Welcome to the club!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2148193/Owen-Hargreaves-released-Manchester-City.html
Sad really…..
Hahaha, no not at all. Seems the grass isn’t always greener.
CIteh interestet?
Not really.
In the end Kagawa decides where he wants to go and I’m pretty sure that he’ll meet up with SAF again after his internationals to negotiate the deal.
It’s a waiting game.
Some players want to go on holidays first or play their internationals.
And it seems to be the same with Kagawa.
nani4ever – The point about De gea was transfers take time. That panned out over the whole summer. Kagawa met with Fergie. I’m assuming some kind of verbal agreement was agreed by both parties. Not sure how interested Arsenal are in him anyway? They’ve got their hands full trying to keep RVP. Arsenal are notoriously stubborn on paying money for players. Dortmund want 20 million Euros. If we want the lad, we’ll get him.
On Hargreaves. Now that he’s no longer a player there, he’ll probably be the new City team ambassador with Viera….
@ Cedars
Thanks mate…always at your service!
Where the fuck has Mike gone? Ohh I get it…to sympathize with Hargreaves! A great example of how to LOVE a club full of cunts!
Eh up Sandeep. How is it?
Prasan – you may address me as the illustrated man!!
Fletcherino is Manchester United. Anderson is not. I think we’ve given the lad EVERY opportunity to prove himself. We forgave him for nearly killing himself and 2 passengers in a 2 seater car after a night on the piss during his recovery. He recently refused a breath test by all accounts and I’ve not heard much else since. Doesnt seem to be showing the effort and desire off the pitch to justify his inclusion on the pitch. I won’t lose any sleep if he goes, never really warmed to him to be fair.
breaking news, i found out that the delay in our signings is because that STR and ROM have an agreement with Gill, the more traffic to the site due to transfer gossip, more fund to sign the players
@ Mike
So are you going to pose for Sports Ilustrated with those pyjamas on? That would be the cover pic mate and it’s sales would help us bring our debt down! Go for it buddy!
Mike
Never warmed up to Ando either…….Bugger seems too on and off for me
BREAKING WIND
City stink of shit. Their world is about to collapse around their cunting ears!!!
M19ke,
all izz well mate,
##
Heard Costas was last found in beach side resort with a dozen pint beers and half a dozen Cuban Cigars..
you heard it here first
Cedars
More off than on pal!
Prasan
The world will bow to my illustrated body! It would help with the debt as Sheik Man CUNT will pay through the nose for my city 2012 treble tapestry!
Breaking News!
Arsenal have released Almunia? City have offered 40 million for him!
We’ll see how it turns out but I fear the longer it get drawn out the less possible it becomes for us
Its time we signed Hargreaves again,
The best English player at Germany WC
Read this on FB coupla days ago..
United – Carrington
Barca – La Masia
City – Arsenal
ROFL
Good night reds..
Keep it RED and United..
Is it too soon to label “TC23″ a sicknote? I’m not so sure…
“His first appearance for the reserves came in a 0–0 away draw to Bolton Wanderers almost a year later, on 15 February 2007, by which time he had become a regular in the under-18 team. However, just over a month later, he suffered a long-term injury and was ruled out for seven months.”
“After two goals in 15 matches for Leicester, Cleverley’s loan spell came to a premature end after he suffered a season-ending shoulder injury against Colchester United. He then returned to Manchester United for treatment and underwent surgery on his shoulder on 2 April 2009.”
“Cleverley scored a further five goals in 20 appearances for Watford before a knee ligament injury in April 2010 ended his season prematurely.”
“Cleverley sustained a ligament damage in his foot after being tackled heavily by Bolton’s Kevin Davies in the 3rd minute of United’s next game, a 5–0 away victory at Bolton Wanderers”
“On 25 October 2011, Cleverley made his return from injury in the Carling Cup, a 3–0 win against Aldershot Town. He made another appearance 4 days later, away to Everton. Cleverley played in a more advanced midfield role, linking defence with attack and was arguably Manchester United’s best player. He left the field of play after 57 minutes due to an ankle injury”
Mike is now the Illustrated,
And he tells the City cunts to bring it on and on and on,
Let’s tear the pyjamas first,
And then do the cunts on and on and on!!!
Cedars
I thought James was flying the aeroplane and doing the talks?
Montenegro’s Eurovision song is fucking BRILLIANT. Sounds like my landlord giving me shit for having pets in the house!!
Sandeep – I reckon he’s got 40 games in him!!! Did he not say in his Zumba work out video that he’d be playing in the Euro’s??
Night Sandeep!
Fred
You listed 4 injuries in 5 years. Most footballers have about that many.
The Greece Entry is HOT!!
Mike
Is she like Greece lightning?
I look out of the window,
And look out for Super Agent Cedars,
Where the fuck is he I ask,
Is he along with RVP, shooting up the stars!!!
Ha fucking ho!!
Eurovision is it? That shit still on???
Prasan
I take offence mate, just do not mention RvP
Robin Van Cedars
Coming to a Theatre of Dreams near you
@ Cedars
Ohh yeah…I got the message…will come up with a better one in that case?
MG
Hahahaha..
MG
She sure fucking was. Eurovision, gotta love it! I never thought I’d see someone moonwalk while playing the bagpipes as long as air was in my body… The Romanians just proved me wrong!
Good Evening ROM
Hope everyone is chilled out.
I remain in ”The Zone”
Not into Drogba
Want to see Kagawa
Not arsed about Hazard
Oh Yeah Kevin Davies is a massive CUNT.
Happy Birthday Georgie Best. Just watched Footballs greatest on Sky which featured the great man. Thanks for the memories. A true Legend.
Happy Birthday Costas my friend.
Yes Owen… How did you miss out on Player of the Year??
http://t.co/UpB8rtBK
A very Happy Birthday to the great George Best!
Off to bed now, take care all, stay happy and stay UNITED!
B.E.L.I.E.V.E
Night Prasan….Doing the same my self.
Mike, that link does not work mate
Cedars
Does it not? Got it from twit twatter! I’ll try again..
Albert Ross – every season since Tom has been a pro, he has suffered a major injury that caused him to miss several months of the season. That is not the case with most footballers at all.
Try this… http://t.co/UpB8rtBK
Not a techno wizard!!
LOL that’s the same link as the first one, and they both worked fine for me.
Here’s the link for just the picture, if that makes any difference: https://p.twimg.com/AthbIZzCMAEDRlC.jpg
I will miss Drogba. You need big names in the EPL. Torres is not in the same league.
Eden Hazard sound more like a ho everyday, liking the guy less and less – first United, then City, now Chelsea. Keep your mouth shut, licking the as of every club means no one will respect you. Actually, fuck off.
Goodnight Prasan Goodnight Cedars
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There’s only one thing that is for certain this summer. Red shirt, big number seven with the letters B-E-B-E at the top. #Bebe7 that’s from bebe twitter account i think we found our number 7
Preferable to Michael Owen tbh.
This week in the Korean league, Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors FC take on Suwon Samsung Bluewings. And I thought selling stadium naming rights was tacky…
Fred
I think the jury is still out considering the verdict on TC being injury-prone, or unfortunate.
Imo TC is injury-prone. Has missed a lot of games at Wigan due to injuries.
That might change with getting older.
Let’s hope so, Zelh.
Looks like Ole has pulled the plug for the Villa job.
Ole turns down the Villa job. Good man!
Would have loved to see him back where he belongs.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/bbc-radio-say-a-source-claims-eden-hazard-is-a-done-deal-to-manch
I was also thinking of mentioning Tom’s age, for he has only recently beefed up a bit.
I haven’t looked at his medical history closely, so I’m unsure of my ground.
It’s too soon to tell, but obviously we wouldn’t be talking about it were his history good.
Bryan Doogan (Aston Villa PR executive): “Ole Gunnar Solskjær has decline the Aston Villa job because of family reasons.”
It’s official.
@Mike
To clarify. She represents Greece but she’s from Cyprus. Doesn’t change the fact that she’s hot as hell.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/george-best-unseen-photos-manchester-843690
Genius!
Always felt Ole was going to turn down the Villa job. But it is in his best interests to take a look a careful structured look at any opportunity. Every big club does some things well and Villa is big enough to learn some things from that only would be opened up in an interview of this type. They obviously like what they see in Ole and were willing to try and impress him.
But Ole said he was going to Molde while his kids were young. There is still much he can do there. He has gotten them into Europe and looks to be in a position to do that for many years from his seat at the top of their league. He should take this opportunity to learn and scout good players. He should not rush anything.
Off topic:
Things that look like David DeGea: Some people just have too much time on their hands. But funny! http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/a-collection-of-people-animals-and-things-which-look-like-david-d
iced earth – you can’t trust scousers, probably another wind up.
Best decision for Ole at the moment. However, his relationship with Molde will require some fixing now. Hope they iron out their problems and we get to meet up in next year’s Ch.League.
Thanks for the link, Willie! Great pictures of the Belfast boy. Happy Birthday, Georgie.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/120522/premier-leagues-biggest-away-attendances-revealed-172653?p=7
Any links on this Greece babe?
Wait
Eleftheria Eleftheriou?
OMG
I think we have a multi guy tussle up here!
Her name is Eleftheria Eleftheriou…
Mike wasn’t joking, what a beauty.
Mike never jokes about the ladies
Goodnight United
19
Easy fellas. She’s 23. She’s too young even for me now.
hazard agent “We are no longer in the negotiations stage,” Bico said. “We have reached agreement with all parties. There will be no higher bid.
Bico’s claim that an agreement has been reached with all parties differs from the private positions of the Manchester clubs, but the agent insists that Hazard is considering all three clubs on an equal basis. “Eden is in the reflections stage and a decision will be taken quickly,” Bico said. “Those who have come forward have a one-in-three chance (of success).”
And now for a musical interlude… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBmvOxAOGo
It Baines me to say…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-have-opened-talks-with-everton-844069?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
RE: Hargreaves
While I doubt his claim at the start of season that he was ready for 40 games we didn’t really hear too much about him actually being injured while at City. I get the feeling perhaps that they signed him simply to get one over on us but never really intended to play him and certainly weren’t going to put their trust in him getting through anything but throw away games.
RE: TC
Young players are prone to injuries, they will often still be physically growing into their body (Be it just physical growth like Welbeck had issues with or just bulking up to be ready for the Premier League like we have Seen Rafa struggle with), they don’t know the limits so will over extend themselves and even with advise can lack the mental maturity to look after themselves perfectly (Look at Giggs early on, took time for him to learn his limits, start to look after himself but once he did his Hamstring issues became a non issue)
I think alot of Toms issus this season was over eagerness to get back, certainly he seemed to rush back from the initial injury and unless you are fully fit you will always be prone to then picking up other injuries as the player tries to protect the original injury (It was Saha’s problem imho, was never confident he was fit and as such would protect the injury and puts strains on his body doing so that he shouldn’t be which made him prone to other injuries)
We could do a lot worse than Baines. Fact is, we someone to cover Evra. As always with these players, I’ll go with bosses judgment.
baines is a great FB..he has a great left foot his crosses are class plus he take some very good free kicks..it’s nice to see a competition in the LB position next season if baines joins UNITED
Costas. Saints preserve us. It’s been in the cards but here is the rub.
When you write the list….. Heinze, Evra, Baines
Seems there is only one name that is really and truly out of place…
Just sayin
Heinz beans?
@willie
No doubt Evra needs cover. But if it was up to me, I’d keep Fabio or De Laet around as backup and spend that 12 mil on a CM. If the Mirror article is indeed true…
I’d rather we signed Lorraine Baines tbh, but it’s always exciting to have a new player in the fold.
For the record, my comment at 22:56 was a play with words. It obviously doesn’t pain me, lol.
@Fletch
Heinze. He’s a cunt, the other two aren’t.
Tony Valencia’s reaction: “DO NOT WANT” http://i55.tinypic.com/1608nid.jpg
Yeah we saw how well fabio worked as cover.
the only thing he covered was the couch in the physio room.
De Leat couldn’t even get in Norwich’s side.
Besides that he’s gone.
Fabio was fit from January and on. Sir Alex never trusted him anyway. I’ve critisized him for getting injured often but that’s not why Evra never lost his spot in the last 5 months.
It’s a luxury to have Evra and Baines in the team when we are still relying on Scholes at CM, is all I am saying.
Costas. I’m not talkin’ the smell of their whiskers mate. I’m talking pedigree and football!
If you don’t agree…. well fair enough I suppose.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Welcome to United, Leighton Baines!
Fletch – be serious, pal. Baines is better than Heinze.
WOW i just seen that we are in for Baines. what happens with Paddy now? maybe he starts at rb while Baines takes his place at LB? Anyways i am very happy with this development.
Baines’s best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ougQ4sYJw
@FLetch
Can’t say for sure mate. We’ve seen Baines at Everton but we don’t know what he’d look like at United. Personally i don’t know how I’d rank him among the other 2. Heinze and Evra were quite the players in their best seasons for us. I’ll say this much.
The free-kick king, last minute equaliser against Chelsea: http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/chelsea-1-1-everton-baines
I’ll sign off with this mention for Alessandro Del Piero (Juve Legend). Congratulations for an amazing career. 19 years for the Old Lady. 90 odd caps for Italy. 500+ league games 200+ goals. What a man!
Favorite quote: bit lost in translation:
If you were a fulback and managed to graze my knee, you would think you’d had a good game.
Hargreaves sold united out, almost like someone meeting a new girl and talking badly of the one that stood by him all along, not realising the bitch he got with was using him to annoy his friend. Now he’s been dispatched with clubs definitely not wanting to take a gamble on him.
the cunt Lost all my respect!!.
As for baines, decent left back but i can’t see him taking evra’s place even though i think the french man has played below the standards he set for a while now. Probably another baseless rumour, nothing has been confirmed.
agree Fred, I think Baines is better than Heinze too and if not I’ll bet he’ll ketchup quick…
Fred.
Oi me.
Night you reds!
Baines the Beast does it again, putting City to the sword: http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/man-city-0-2-everton-baines1
Always loved the image of Antonio shoving him all the way to the Everton away supporters last year. Bulldozer.
A free-kick from 25 yards will be as good as a goal now. http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/tottenham-0-1-everton-baines
Tony Valencia, the Samoan Bulldozer.
Baines is solid business imo. Fabio hasn’t convinced yet. Hopefully, he’ll get games at Benfica. Another thing about Baines, is his set pieces. He is a Liverpool fan though?
Another free kick, or should that be “free goal”? http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/portsmouth-0-1-everton-baines
@willie
O’Shea was also a Liverpool fan wasn’t he?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2148385/Michu-wanted-Manchester-United-Liverpool.html
Go Glazers!
@Costas
He was! Didn’t stop him scoring in front of the kop.
So was Ole.
About Cleverley being injury prone, well guys, bad news is that it has some truth in it. I remember there was an article about it, and it wasn’t pretty reading..,
Wow, that Michu sounds like a real bargain. Let’s get him signed up first, ask questions later.
The only thing I have against Michu is is hairstlye. He looks too much like Samaras for my liking.
Sounds like a plan b in case the Kagawa deal doesn’t happen?
Michu and Powell to form a potent partnership.
Rio was a fan of that once great club, too?
We know that Leighton Baines can do it against the bigger teams, but what about Michu? http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/real-madrid-0-1-rayo-vallecano-michu You bet he can.
Rio was a Liverpool fan? I’ve never heard that. I know he slagged United off to some United fans on holiday a couple of years before he joined us.
Liverpool listed their most famous fans on their website. They claimed Rio was a fan! My sources tell me skullduggery is at work….
Costas – sounds rubbish to me. Sillyseason. Can’t see the Kagawa-Deal fall through. Imo it will go through before the Euros.
I think we should make a thread like this : Younger Rooney vs Mature Rooney – Which one is better?
very good opinions over here http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/233920.aspx?PageIndex=1
what do you think? who moderates this site? It would be a good conversation, over here.
Leyton Banes, Shinsy Cowabunga and Eddie Izzard plus youths like Calvin Clyne…..not bad, #DECENT.
Morning reds around the world,
Papii,
Hello pal, via paypal eh..ROFL
Sandeep, you well pal?
I hear we’re after all these big names, gimme Peter Odemwingie anyday…thats a big name
Morning? I’m heading to bed as I type, the duvets over me, head on pillow but still addicted to RoM
Night Fella !
Papii,
Good night fella..
I m well..
RED dreams,
see on the morrow.
cheers
Costas
I agree…with the current state of our squad Baines is a luxury.
We need a backup for Evra but Baines is good enough to play in the first team on regular basis and too costly for a backup. I don’t think he will agree to come here if he is going to be a backup player.
Real Madrid Legend Raul gone to AL SADD for his last huge pay check!
Ronaldo said: “Rio is the best centre-back in England and still one of the best in the world. I don’t understand why he is not in the national team.
“Maybe the coach has justifications and we have to respect those. But I have to be honest, I love Rio.
“He’s a great player, great man and he should be in the national team because he would help England do well… maybe to win the tournament,” Ronaldo told The Sun
So Hazard’s choice will be known by next weekend ?
Then after Euro then etc.
It’s so tough and exhausting i guess doing the business nowadays. At least they know what is happening exactly.
As for Baines welcome ANYTIME!
English player and a quality one and we need competition for Evra and he will provide the sort of competition. But who knows if he wants to fight for his place being 27 year old with Evra still having couple of years in him as a strong candidate for the starting place. I guess rotation is going to become reality for the LB spot as well.
Corea
Lot of rotation in defense last season is one of the reasons that it turned out like this. I hope we stick to a stable back four for the next season. That means if Baines is IN then I guess Evra will be sold.
Morning, United!
I see that we are getting ourselves a wee Baines clique with Fred as the leader? But of course we’ve got to have beans to go with the little pea!
I almost choked with disbelief when I saw that many on here want The Drog in a United shirt. Listen, I don’t care if he’s donated half his wealth to Africa (which he could have for all I know), and at 34 he’s still got the minerals (which he most definitely does), but as far as football is concerned he’s a cunt on the pitch and in the dressing room. Have you forgotten Ancelotti’s (last man with an iota of class seen in the Chav camp) comment on Drogba?
“‘Look at Torres and his crisis. If you decide you are going to invest in him, you have to sell Drogba….He tends to swallow up all his competitors. It is not because he is evil, he is just like that”
And you want a guy like that to “mentor” DannyW? Get a grip, man!
Besides, it would take the lustre off one of Jonny Evans’ best career moments till date
Personally, I think Fergie will sign a novice fullback this season. Probably Clyne and nobody else. He’ll gamble with Evans as back-up for Evra (and touchwood, Evra maintains his amazing fitness record), and Smalling/Jonesy to do a job at RB as backup for Rafael. The idea is to get Fabio gametime, and get him back next season. 2 seasons from now Fabio is the first choice LB. Bringing in Baines or an experienced LB is very, very tempting, but may not be the best course of action in the long run. Anyway, I hope so cos I simply ADORE the twins.
@Willie; Thanks for the lovely Bestie pics…awesome, and sad to think what he left unachieved. But then for genius like Bestie, I guess it’s always better to burn out than to fade away…
Please can we just get someone for central midfield before anything else?
Btw, Mourinho has just extended his contract with Real, tying him nicely to Sir Alex’s retirement plan. Looks like he really has eyes on the hot seat
Marq says:
Please can we just get someone for central midfield before anything else?
Hargo’s available i heard he’s quite good, just needs prem experience
still waiting for a first signing to be made, and believe me if we are after lads in europe, their prices will skyrocket after the euro games, so better try get them now than afterwards
So now apparently Hazard will make his big announcement after the Belgium friendly with England.
In his defence:
- At least he’s not rushing into a decision
- At least he’s playing the media, which is funny (although playing the fans less so)
- I can perfectly understand the delay to his decision, given Chelsea’s CL win. It was presumably initially a toss-up between City and United, with him thinking they were the only interested parties that could offer him CL football. Then Chelsea get 300 minutes of luck against Barca and Bayern and the picture changes.
Also, the fact that he’s having to even think about it … doesn’t that suggest he’s not just interested in the money? If it was only cash he was interested in, he’d have chosen City ages ago – not even Chelsea can match their wages.
The worry is if he IS choosing on footballing reasons, and still finds City a more attractive prospect…
Morning all
Is there a player called Dick Van Dickinson? What a signing he would be! Would have his name on the back of my shirt for sure
Manchester United have announced the signing of Lipton Ice tea
SAF: Lipton Ice tea will give us much refreshment in the middle of the park no doubt about that.
David Gill: Sony Cameras – where pictures are made for memories that quench the thirst.
Morning United
has the look of our past King 7…from the country of our ex nobody that now play for Virus… young and has bag of potential… worth a look maybe for 4th choice striker…and when he ready give him the no 7 or maybe 9…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvkGjxAuBro&feature=related
Better still, how about Dick Van Cuntingson? Just think of the shirt sales!
Morning MG
Lipton’s bound to be a success, him and Lil Pea, what a combo
Cedars – That could be RvC’s new name if he moves to City? His dad better ensure that doesn’t happen
Breaking News:
Uncle Woy interview
So Uncle Woy how do you think it’s going to go down this summer?
Well, it’s all about variables and in our case we have a 1 in 16 chance and that’s a good return.
I see, well Uncle Woy what about leaving Rio?
Well I had a conversation with the famous photographer David Gill and we agreed on one thing: Rio isn’t as good as JT when it comes to photo shoots, as John proved on Saturday in the aftermath of the CL final. That was a world class performance you know? And that’s the commitment that I want in the team.
Excellent answer Uncle Woy, how do you see the relegation of Wolves being someone from Wolves?
Well Wolves are just hopeless. I mean at West Brom I point out to you that I got the England job and really didn’t set the world alight, and Roberto and Eddie they were sacked and have just won Chelsea the FA cup and the CL! So you know looking at it that way I’m going to win the Euros all because of WBA. And Wolves should take note, because they are in a dire situation. If they had kept up with Mick they would have still been in the premiership and maybe Mick might have got an international job – like the manager of Tahiti or something!
Right Uncle Woy, well thanks Uncle Woy it was a pleasure.
Well the pleasure is all mine you know, and say my hellos to Sir Alex.
Bye Uncle Woy!
Bye MG!
Morning Cedars!
I agree – our team looks so strong that I just cannot see what Hazard Kagawa etc will add to the team.
Atin
I will disown him if he makes that move God forbid!
MG
Nice one mate, but I always thought Wolves were your first love, no?
God forbid Cedars
United first
Then Bora Bora
MG
Would not mind a few days, err scratch that a few years here….
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1rYjOQ6qypE/Tk-te2EZsJI/AAAAAAAAEK4/M5zLeRWD5hg/s1600/bora-bora_island%252C_tahiti%252C_french_polynesia.jpg
Even if Roy selects Ferdinand and hands over the captaincy to him, if England wins the final Terry will be kitted up with the armband(although he is not in the squad) and he will lift the trophy while adjusting his Captains armband.
Cedars
Count me in – just for fun I was adding up how much it would cost for a holiday
Just the airfare would be near 3 thousand return per person
Ouch
The Hotels plus food would cost a lot more.
MG must work harder!
One day Cedars, one day!
Imagine it – The ROM does French Polynesia
About Hazard choosing the best football side ahead of money, that would all but rule out Chelsea, and the reason? Because no team has defended their CL trophy before, therefore, going to Chelsea means unlikely to win the CL, haha
MG
Its very expensive indeed, checked my self many times…..Getting there is the problem otherwise its quite affordable…….
We could settle for a Greek Island in the meantime? Been to Santorini my self and its gorgeous, besides we could meet up with a certain Kebab genius!!
Keano on GNev job@England
“It’s important you are yourself,” Keane told The Guardian. “Listen, Gary can talk but don’t think for one minute he was as influential in the dressing room as people might think he was.
“Gary would say his piece but he wasn’t running the show. Far from it”.
MG – afternoon to you my friend! Got any interaction between Mancini and Gill?
Let’s just go the whole hog and get Cyril on here and have his agents on this too!
Cedars – When is RvP gonna sign for his dad’s club? That would be a good day!
Morning brothel dwellers
Everton have had no contact at all as yet from Man Utd about Leighton Baines – not to say they won’t but that is the current position. From a respected twitter source. Keep it real reds.
All of you suggesting Leighton Baines would be a good addition to the squad have completely lost it. English, late 20s, never won anything, clumsy and inept… sounds right. Why don’t we just buy Heskey and Downing and get it over with?
Keane at it again……..I just grow ‘fonder and fonder’ of him every day……..
Nice way to support an ex team mate Keano
@AntiScouser
Behave.
- When did ‘English’ become a byword for incompenent? Spose Bobby Charlton was a crock of shite was he?
- “Late 20s” is pushing it. He’s 27.
- “Never won anything.” Yeh, cos he – from his left-back position – is single-handedly responsible for trying to deliver trophies to one of the most cash-strapped clubs in the league, isn’t he?
- “Clumsy and inept.” You’re either guessing or making stuff up. Behind Ashley Cole, he’s the second best LB in the league.
But then I guess you thought broadly the same things about Young, so I don’t know why I’m getting too exercised about your opinion. Probably a good indication that Baines would be a decent signing.
Cedars
Atin
Mancini’s contract was officially terminated.
Sorry mate – but I’ll keep it going got Uncle Woy on the books now
Morning Mike –
MG
huh? whaa? when?? You actually made me go to the shite website! Not cool!
Uncle Woy – flavour of the summer? alongwith Red Runner (GNev)?
@kanchelskis
- When pointing out he was English, I did not mean to say English players incompetent. Rather, I meant to say they were overrated. Aren’t they? Last two major competitons? Ah yes, failed to qualify for Euro 2008 (LOL), WC 2010: failed to beat USA and Algeria, Germany 4:1 England. Sorry, my mistake, them lot are world class. JT all the way.
- Late twenties = over 25. 27 (he’ll be 28 in December) is over 25, isn’t it? I can’t believe you’re willing to argue over this. Pathetic.
-never won anything = fact. As for “single-handed responsibilty” well that’s a textbook example of a straw man argument, my friend. I’ve never actually said that.
-Best LB after A.Cole? You’re joking, right? Wait, so Evra < Clichy < Baines. LOL. Come on, you can do better than that. LOL
Joke.
Atin
Watch the adventures of Uncle Woy unfold
Also this summer we do have David Gill SAF and the Manchester United transfer threads.
Sadly Harry is off for the moment as well
But hey I’ll always find something
Heskey’s been released, it’s official!! Sign him up fergie!!
Keano is correct in what he said. His honest views are fair, valid and not disrespectful.
“Gary will not be calling the shots, he will be learning his trade and being a link between the manager and the players, and I think he will be good at that.”
“There’s a lot of thumbs-up, everyone says it is a good appointment. Let’s wait and see. We’ve got to give him a chance. He’s not done any coaching before. He has done his coaching qualifications but sitting in a studio talking about teams is very different.
“Gary can talk but don’t think for one minute he was as influential in the dressing room as people might think he was. Gary would say his piece but he wasn’t trying to run the show. Far from it. What he has got is he’ll be working under Roy Hodgson. It is not as if he will be calling the shots. He can learn his trade. I’m pretty sure if they have a decent tournament, or a decent couple of years, Roy Hodgson and his staff will get praise.
“If they don’t, the manager will get criticism and people will start criticising Gary. Gary’s a decent guy and he’s played at a decent level, but that doesn’t guarantee you success. You have to look at these opportunities when they come. You can’t be too clever when you are outside of football and not involved in a team, and if an opportunity comes up.
“He is going to be working with top players and a top manager so there is no surprise Gary jumped straight into it. There is only one way to find out if you can do it or not – let’s get into it. It’s no good just talking about it. It’s not a week-to-week job. He will still have a bit of time off and will be learning from a top manager.”
“I’m surprised he has kept his role with doing TV,” he added. “That can be difficult. You can get your way around criticising players by saying: ‘I’d expect the player to do better.’ He probably won’t be as critical as me and speak in the terms I do. I know Gareth [Southgate] does it, but he’s not in the dressing room, he’s not on the training pitch, he’s not working with the players.”
@AntiScouser
1. Then you should’ve said so. You just said he was English, as an oblique term of denigration. Didn’t say anything about being overrated. But then if you were going to carry on and detail exactly HOW he was overrated, it seems irrelevant to mention it in the first place. And then in your second post you’ve gone from saying they’re overrated, to pointing out that they’re (all apparently – including WR?) objectively poor. Sort your arguments out.
2. Yawn – splitting hairs. Early mid-twenties. Happy now?
3. You get my point entirely. You are judging his achievements trophy-wise, with no consideration for the squads he’s been playing with at Wigan or Everton. I could equally point out that Ryan Bertrand has a CL winner’s medal. Should we sign him instead?
4. On Evra’s current form (you really think he’s going to arrest his decline?), Baines is miles better than him. And Clichy isn’t even a guaranteed starter for City.
early late twenties*
Cedars- would you be annoyed if RVP signed for city?.
Keane should think before he speaks………..Oh wait, he needs a brain to do that!!
Heskey is on!
Where is Costas – we have some major transfer dealing to do!
@kanchelskis: Probably semtimental of me, but I do hope and believe, Evra will come back with all guns blazing. I don’t mind Baines, not one bit, but personally speaking I abhor anything that will impede the twins’ progress. Actually, for the life of me I can’t figure our why Fabio is being loaned out. More than able deputy for Captain Evra if you ask me.
Cedars- The thought of kettle neck hugging RVP after he scores in a derby match would be unbearable.
At this rate i’m going to start hating Keano simply for starting RoM fights…
Heskey+ red shirt=. Season 2013. Sorted.
Players who’d “won nothing” before signing for United:
Cristiano Ronaldo
Wayne Rooney
Rio Ferdinand
Roy Keane
Bryan Robson
Denis Law
I could go on and on, but let’s just satisfy ourselves by saying thank fuck AnitScouser doesn’t influence transfer policy at Utd.
Redbilly
Enough already…….Making me feel all nausea in me stomach
Jeet – perhaps Fabio is being loaned out because Moyes has agreed to sell us Baines.
It could even be connected to Gibbo’s move.
Either way. the 2 managers surely trust each other.
Afternoon reds around the world,
Heskey released?!!
Now i know why we are hell bent on letting Berba go
###
Some good news, heard Fletch is gonna resume training?
that would be awefucksome news..
@Jeet
If Evra were younger, I’d share your confidence that he’ll get back to his best. At 31, I’m not so sure.
Agree that the Fabio loan is somewhat perplexing, as has Fergie’s reluctance to play him this season, in spite of Evra’s form.
Jeet – many a true word said in jest.
Those who denigrate our Legends loudly and publicly do effect the views of other fans.
It is particularly unfortunate that despite this interview showing Roy’s support of Gary Neville in his first attempt at management, his words are twisted to serve some selfish aim.
Cedars,
You have plenty of fan following from around the world..
you lucky bugger
and even our old friend smarty aka Smart Alex has many followers..
wish he was here,
anyway,
afternoon Albertex Rossi
kanchelskis
Robson was a fluke signing………No body to say the least
Sandeep – hello mate. Yes it’s good to hear fletch is fit and healthy enough to resume training, though to the nature if the condition I suspect it’s to see how his body and more importantly his heath are affected. Let’s hope it’s positive .
Jeet – many a true word said in jest.
Those who denigrate our Legends loudly and publicly do effect the views of other fans.
Deliberately or otherwise.
It is particularly unfortunate that despite this interview showing Roy’s support of Gary Neville in his first attempt at management, his words are twisted to serve some selfish aim.
Sandy
I do? Where?
… double-post … oops! Twice as nice, perhaps.
I bet Keane has no friends, too mad to keep any
Afternoon Sandeex!
Kanchelskis, Jeet
Evra needs good amount of rest folks, physically but more importantly..
This race storm, WC fiasco, then learning his brother’s death before he pulled on the shirt in that massacre 1-6 defeat, coming so close but so far with this title,
adding to it the non stop football he has been playing for 3 or 4 years now!!
The lad needs real rest,
Having said all this, Sir Alex has been ruthless with players when their time is up at United, but i reckon Evra will stay until the young lads gain experience..
We cant afford to lose the experience, esp in defense after the departure of JOS and Brown..for sometime at least..
and oh boy, Vidic the monster will be back, thats a big sigh..
1. I would say that not qualifying (2008) and an embarrassing second phase exit (2010) are objectively poor records for a footballing nation of such high aspirations. But you can also call them overrated. Since I couldn’t care less about England, either way is fine by me, as long as you don’t hype them up.
2. No. If 28 (in December) is not late twenties, I don’t know what is. Mid twenties = 24-26, Late twenties > 26.
3. I don’t know about signing Bertrand, but he is a better prospect than Baines, surely. Baines is a mediocre, underambitious, mid-table team player with no skill. While not being entirely responsible for his teams’ failings, having a player like Baines in the team, didn’t do Everton or Wigan any good.
4. Baines better than Evra? Seriously? Sure enough, Evra’s not what he was, but he can better Baines any day of the week. We needn’t discuss anything after this display of ignorance. Clichy has just won his first PL title. Fabio, Kolarov, Gibbs, Bosigwa, hell, even Assou-Ekotto are all better prospects than Baines.
Once you acquire a mid-table team mentality, you become a mid-table team. Can’t wait to see a team featuring Jones (at RB), Baines, Park and Young. Dreamy.
Soooooo. Heskey or Hazard? Both very similar players so it will be a tough call for Fergie. Let’s look at the facts…
1- Both play football.
2- Both like football.
3- Both are world class.
4- Both are flooded with offers of top-flight football.
5- Heskey is black, Hazard wears black socks. Coincidence? I think not.
6- Both can score or have scored goals.
7- I’m starting to struggle now…
8- Both want to play football?
9- Kompany has a humongous head.
10- I made it to ten.
@Sandeep1878
Vidic SHOULD be back. As I understand, he’s not taking part in pre-season. We shouldn’t expect too much of him at the start of the season. 9/10 months is an awful long time to be out.
Can anyone give me a run down on Mombasa beach resort?
Redbilly,
afternoon mate,
yeah lets hope this testing come training brings positive news..
Kanchelskis,
agreed pal, can’t expect much, but certainly a force when he is in the dressing room..
Cedars,
You have them fans in the world which you hate the most
Albertex,
Good day sir,
@kanchelskis
How old were they when they were bought?
Cristiano Ronaldo (18)
Wayne Rooney (18)
Rio Ferdinand (23)
Roy Keane (22)
Bryan Robson (24)
Denis Law (22)
Use your B(r)aines.
If any Bulgarian league followers here,
The Bulgarian League is set for a thrilling conclusion, tonight. The final game of the season sees 2nd placed Ludogorets Razgrad host leaders CSKA Sofia, attempting to overhaul a 2-point deficit and secure a maiden league title.
1. You’ve moved this point away from Baines entirely, so let’s drop it.
2. We won’t be signing him in December, will we. He’s currently 27. By your definition that’s late 20s. By my definition it’s mid-20s. Whatever, he’s not old, not past his prime. There’s 4/5 years of good service in him.
3. Again, you’ve moved this point from your initial argument, which was that you saw it fit to judge him on his trophy haul. In an attempt to re-address this point, I refer you to my post at 11:00. Should we not have signed any of those players? Apparently one was at Everton, you know.
4. You accuse me of a “display of ignorance” while also stating that Clichy’s just won his first PL title. Top stuff, fella. Keep up the good work.
If I had written an idiotic statement like @kanchelskis (Baines is better than Evra, even better: A.Cole > Baines > everybody else) I’d be buried under negative “what kind of a fan are you” responses. Yet when he does it, others don’t seem to mind. Interesting.
Sandy
Curious now, which world is it?
Antiscouser
Your mathematical skills are admirable
@AntiScouser
“Can’t wait to see a team featuring Jones (at RB), Baines, Park and Young. Dreamy.”
- Yeh, can’t believe Jones isn’t a world-beating RB at the age of 20. Poor show. Besides which, I believe he’s third choice in that position, so not sure what you’re on about.
- Park. Again, he’s obviously a massive part of our plans for the coming season, isn’t he? It’s not like we have 3 far, far superior wingers, is it?
- Young. Don’t make me fish around for the stats again. Not after you basically conceded that he’s a lot better than you were giving him ‘credit’ for during his mini-slump.
@kanchelskis
“Clichy’s just won his first PL title”
LOL. He didn’t?!
Sandeep
Yes mate.
Christopher Nolan took Di Caprio there whilst in the middle of an inception
@AntiScouser
Maybe it’s cos other people don’t think it’s idiotic? Just a thought.
AntiScouser says:
@kanchelskis
“Clichy’s just won his first PL title”
LOL. He didn’t?!
___________________________________________________________
Haha. Anyone want to tell him? Or shall we let him work it out for himself. Could take a while…
Cedars,
the social networking world
Facebook or fuckbook as you call it
AntiScouser and kanchelskis – If I may interject.
Leaving semantics aside, AntiScouser’s 10:08 is intended to highlight Baines unsuitability.
He lists the negatives:
- English
- Too old
- never won anything
- clumsy and inept
All 4 points are wrong, or cannot be listed as a negative.
- English is good. We want as many of the top English players as possible.
- Too old is nonsense. He’s 27, 3 years while Fabio grows into the role, then sold as a winner.
- never won? City, Chelsea, Arsenal, LFC, Portsmouth, Birmingham have won. A bit limiting.
- clumsy and inept – ridiculous. He is one of a few decent left-footed players in the league.
kanchelskis
Thickness is a tough nut to crack
MG,
you bugger, i dont need Hollywood run down fella, keep it real,
keep it buzzing as the Brigadier19 says
@CedarsDevil
Still nothing … either he’s still thinking (or an approximation thereof) or he’s noticed and is too embarrassed to say owt.
kanchelskis
Thickness cannot think………..Too daft
Guys, is this really worth fighting over? Peace and love brothers…all’s Red, Ja says be happy cos everythings, gonna be all right…hail Rasta
Hiya Reds, anyone else watching the Japan friendly? Kagawa looks decent so far.
And he’s gone. Bottled it. Tara, AntiScouser.
AntiScouser
On the last 2 years form Baines is a better Left back than Evra.
Also your argument that all English players are over rated is not only bullshit it’s racsist.
I think Clichy was part of the invincibles team in 2004? He got a medal that year. Just wanted to point that out.
Oh and SIGN HESKEY NOW!
Jeet
We are men therefore we fight no? Just felt like I am in an X Men movie, or wait could be Brave Heart…
Scratch that, Pay Back, damn did he cause some damage
@Costas
SSSHHHHH! We were letting AS figure it out for himself! You’ve gone and given it away now!
mancdub
He’s no racist mate, just daft
Sandeep
In the Zone Sandeep In the Zone
@kanchelskis
Ah damn. Sorry mate.
Going by his post, I thought he already knew it.
Ok let’s calm down. Baines is archetypal over-hyped english player. The english media love to do that and fans fall for it. Baines is decent, he’d do a job but i wouldn’t call him roberto carlos or evra (when he was immense). He’s a steady possibly reliable player and is potent going forward but against some top wingers like robben or the lesser heralded antonio valencia, he’s been shown up. Good player and would be a nice addition to the squad until fabio hopefully improves and return stronger.
AntiScouser
At 11:27 you wonder why kanchelskis wasn’t buried under negatives for the statement:
“Baines is better than Evra, even better: A.Cole > Baines > everybody else”
Firstly, it’s not that controversial or unusual. Many fans appear unhappy with Evra this year.
Rating 2 other Premiership players as better than Evra is not a view deserving rebuke.
Secondly, his statement goes directly to your discussion. Is Baines good enough?
kanchelskis rates him as 2nd best in the League, that is relevant.
Thirdly, as this is about a potential United signing, your descriptions of Baines were far more derogatory than being rated as outside the top two. Your “clumsy, inept, mediocre, underambitious, mid-table team player with no skill” is a little more scathing. You bracket Baines with Heskey and Downing for goodness sake!
Kanchelskis – John Terry knows the answer?
@kanchelskis
Having looked back more carefully, looks like I did spoil it. My bad. Didn’t get what was the point of the initial Clichy comment anyway, lol. Try banging your head on the wall 2-3 times. It will be more productive than this debate.
@Costas
Haha. No worries. Looks like he’s buggered off anyway, so looks like the futility is over … for now!
Costas
Still having birthday celebrations mate? I hear they go on for days in Greece
How is calling english players “Overrated” racist?. How does the term refer to colour though? i’m baffled and secondly, aren’t english players rated more than their capabilities? have they not been shown up on the grandest stage of all that technically, they are no where and will never be as good as those around the continent?. I’m sorry but those are the cold hard facts. For every english player getting praised, south-america or somewhere in europe or africa produces produce triple of these players and they’re better both technically and mentally, they’re able to perform on the big stage but can that be said of england who continues to struggle in the international scene? giving out hopes to fans that another football messiah has been born only to find out you actually need a full team of top players to compete.
It’s nothing to do with race.
Costas
Just don’t smash the plates mate you know austerity and all
Just spoken to an RoM regular, won’t mention his name for his own privacy but God was it good…. Putting a voice behind a name……Never what you imagined
It’s not about colour. Saying all English players are overrated is like saying all Jewish people are tight fisted. It’s racist.
@kanchelskis
Typically buggered off if I may add.
@Cedars, MG
Nah I celebrated a lot over the last couple of days. But I still have some unrelated partying up ahead.
Avoid it Cedars, just fucking avoid it
Costas
You getting any? Do tell
@mancdub
1. Semantics. English is a nationality, not a racist. If it’s anything, it’s xenophobia, not racism.
2. Being ‘overrated’ cannot be a term of direct criticism. It’s a passive term, referring to the people that are doing the rating not he players themselves. To be overrated is no fault of one’s own.
@Cedars
A gentleman never kisses and tells.
I’ll just say that I am always on the hunt.
It’s not racism, it’s the cold hard facts that you probably don’t want to hear. England produce good players but elevate them into super-human status as quick as possible, they get exposed for all their deficiencies as footballers and that’s the truth. The english players tend to be overpriced or over-rated, it’s been going on for years (carroll, henderson). The irony of england screaming racism though, i don’t think any of us want to really look back through history.
Messi is over-rated, and it’s not his fault!
Cedars,
no big deal,
we all, at least i know you called the fucker in smarty
cheers,
laters,
keep it red fellas…and Baines is a done deal..;)
United
Well in that case I am all for Costas…………
Get in there, show them a bit of Greek loving
Apparently Hazard is into foursomes:
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/899946-eden-hazard-has-agreed-terms-with-chelsea-manchester-united-and-city?
@Cedats
I intend to.
That link looked like a threesome to me………Find your own orgy Costas
Juve have announced that Pogba will join them.
good riddance.
Baines better than Evra?
The only thing Naines is better than Evra is his setplays and crosses. Defending wise, Evra is still better. People are already complaining about Evra going missing from his position when he goes attacking and now they want Baines, who in more likelihood will be the same, if not worst?
Evra better defender?
Not really. Got skinned by almost everyone in the league this season.
Defending-wise he was absolutely abysmal.
Cedat?
Who he?
Costas you have a good 6 years to party on Dude!!!
Well, if Baines is already 27, and still haven’t been linked to a top club before, it probably shows that he gets skinned much more often than some others
Ta ra Pogba! Powell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pogba
Roy Keane is magic!
WillieDaRedNut breaking it down Red Army style!
Forget all this Baines, Kagawa and Hazard stuff. We should be looking at some proper talent. The dippers are in disarray without a manager so this is the time to strike!
Spearing, Shelvey, maybe even Charlie Adam. All there for the taking…
So Pogba to Italy,good.Fabio to portugal not good.
I agree with Cyril
And Lucas
Lucas
Anderson 
I am often called Co-stat so it’s only right we call him Cedats every now and then.
Pogba move official? Didnt see on the club website?
Eden should come with a hazard warning
http://oldtraffordfaithful.com/eden-should-come-with-a-hazard-warning/
Unlike some (feel free to recognize yourselves), I have a proper job and have to work so… can’t waste time explaining elementary things all day.
Clichy won two titles, my mistake. Baines is still better, right? After all, he played one Carling Cup final in 2006. And lost it. Convincingly.
Whatever some of you may say, Evra is ten light years ahead of Baines in terms of overall quality. That’s why Evra is at United, and Baines, in his late twenties, at Everton, an underachieving mid-table team.
Can’t wait for A. Cole to retire so Baines can be the best LB in the country. You made my day kanch, LOL.
@kanchelskis: “After A.Cole, Baines is the best PL left back”
hahaha, racism on ROM , and why? because English players are overrated.
Put aside the fact that you’ll never find a more astute comment, how the fuck is that being racist.
farewell pogba- prick. more excited about the lad from Dortmond than Eden – yet another winger and for what, so Fergus can placate the “we need a star name” supporter. I don’t get it, were not losing any wingers and park doesn’t count since he’s been drafted into midfield. in fact we may have Danny plying his trade on the wing should SAF decide to ditch two on top.
I’ll take any kind of cover for pat. hell I’d get JOS back
@AntiScouser
Yeh, can’t waste your precious time getting basic facts right. First the Clichy thing, then citing Baines as having played only in a CC final. Mind telling me who contested the 2009 FA Cup final? I suppose Chelsea winning the thing satisfies your bizarre logic of left-backs single-handedly settling the outcomes of games, since they had Cole…
Really don’t know why I’m lowering myself to arguing with someone who clearly doesn’t watch a lot of football. There is very little evidence, from the past couple of years, of Evra being ‘ten light years’ ahead of Baines. As has been pointed out all season long, and on this thread, Evra’s defending has been absymal ever since the World Cup. I could point out countless instances where his balls-ups have cost us points. If you can do the same for Baines at Everton, I’d be very surprised.
Also, how do you define Everton as ‘underachieving’? In terms of points gained per pounds spend, you’d probably find they’re the biggest overachievers in the league. Again, don’t let facts get in the way of your crackpot arguments though.
Again, if you look at the FACTS, you might get an idea as to why Baines is at Everton. United, up until a couple of years ago, had the LB spot nailed. Chelsea have had it nailed for years. City have got two very good options in there. He’d obviously never go to Liverpool. Arsenal … they’ve constantly been linked with him. Again, you’re defining his quality purely by the team that he’s in, and it’s fucking bollocks.The summer that we signed Berbatov from Spurs, they’d finished ELEVENTH (6 places and some 20 points behind Everton). I guess we shouldn’t have signed him, cos he was in his late 20s at an underachieving club, right?
@ Kanchelskis – noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Now you’ve gone and dragged Berba into this! “That” berba debate just might get opened again…!
@Atin
Ohh … GOD!
WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!
” terms of points gained per pounds spend”
First of all, it’s not true. There are better teams than Everton in terms of points gained per pounds spent. Look it up. Since when is “points gained” less important then “points gained per pounds spent”?. Let’s stick with the more basic “points gained” concept, shall we? Everton are, points-gained-wise, a mediocre, mid-table team. If they had more money, they’d be a better team, I’m not denying that. But then again, if they had more money, they’d get a better player than Baines to do the job. No, wait a minute, tey wouldn’t because there’s nobody better than Baines apart from A. Cole. LOL
“The summer that we signed Berbatov from Spurs, they’d finished ELEVENTH (6 places and some 20 points behind Everton). I guess we shouldn’t have signed him, cos he was in his late 20s at an underachieving club, right?”
Apples and oranges. Berbatov is a talented player with a mesmerizing touch that won a couple of things before he joined United.
@kanchelskis: “After A.Cole, Baines is the best PL left back”
@AntiScouser
Oh yeh, sorry. Berbatov won stuff. Thank God we never followed up on those leads with Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Denis Law etc etc, eh? Nipped that shit in the bud. Phew.
Who would you put in between Cole and Baines? I will listen to arguments for Assou-Ekotto, but that’s about it. Clichy? No. Evra? Certainly not.
Nothing you’ve said follows any logic. You obviously just don’t like him. Like you just don’t like Young. Nothing wrong with that per se, but you’re letting your bizarre personal hangups – whatever they may be – interfere with any sort of logical debate.
I was just getting over the depression of losing the title and then watched that pile of shit Sat night,fuck me what a crap season
Evra hasn’t been right since the World Cup and his defending for 2 seasons has been mediocre that’s just a fact,at one point this season wasn’t even getting the basics right
Everton are the most overachieving team year after year,Costas my email is gbmufc@hotmail.com,when you know what you want email me mate,i’ll be in and out can’t handle another 2 mths of transfer talks
There are NOT better teams than Everton in terms of points gained per pounds spent.
AntiScouser – You look it up.
I’ve a suggestion? Make AntiScouser our new chief scout! Kanchelskis can then go over the finer details of any transaction. Cedars and MG can arrange the travel. Costas will supply any needed stats on said players. Jeet and Albert Ross can sing the new arrivals some nice Stone’s songs. Sandeep will introduce them to FB. Sammy and Slim will tell them face to face whats required of United players. King Eric and Kings will forcefully tell them to sign the contracts, or else! I’ll sit back and watch the whole fucking show!
Baines may not be the best left back in the world. In fact, I don’t think anybody would claim he is. But he’s a damn sight better than Evra. if he signs for us, he’d easily be the best left back at the club. Evra has been a shambles for coming up to 2 years now.
I’m not 100% convinced on whether Baines is Utd class, i’ll be honest. But he is a good player, and his delivery would also be another vital asset for us. If Fergie signs him, I’ll be more than willing to give him a chance.
This point about “he’s 27 and is still at Everton” is rubbish. Dwight Yorke was playing for Aston Villa at that age….he didn’t do too badly for us did he?
Signings who ‘won stuff’ include
Veron
Kleberson
Obertan
Tosic
Barthez
Laurent Blanc
Doesn’t get any better, does it AntiScouser?
@Albert Ross
You mean: There are NO better…?
There are: http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/120331/revealed-premier-league-club-worst-pounds-points-ratio-168394?p=2
LOL
@Sparkz
Yeh, I hadn’t even touched on that yet. Might finally get back to having a player who can actually stick the ball in the fucking net from a FK.
“the amount each club spent in the 2011 summer transfer window and the January 2012 equivalent”
Hahaha! What a great study. Two transfer windows examined, and not the slightest mention of either players sold, or wage bills.
Wouldn’t wipe my arse with that if it was printed out.
Plus, you realise that Everton are essentially third even in that piddly little study. Only 2 clubs have spent LESS than them on each PL point.
@kanchelskis
Every study has its limitations, of course. But you accuse me of being illogical. My dear Andrei, logic stepped out of the discussion the minute you said:
@kanchelskis: “After A.Cole, Baines is the best PL left back”
LOL.
@AntiScouser
If all you’re going to do is repeat something I said – which I stand by and which many have agreed with – you may as well give up now. How is that moving the debate along?
1. Did you realise that Everton were 3rd, not 18th, in terms of value per point? Be honest.
2. WHO comes between Cole and Baines? And on what basis?
@Albert Ross
You mean: There are NO better…?
There are: http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/120331/revealed-premier-league-club-worst-pounds-points-ratio-168394?p=2
LOL
Loserpool 2nd in this list,does that mean the qualify for champions league
@kanchelskis
Ah, finally, you resort to insult. Sad, but predictable.
1. Yes (honest). I din’t claim Everton were one of the worst in terms of points gaind per pound spent, so this question makes no sense. I only pointed out they were not the best.
2. LOL. I’ve answered that already, check one of my earlier posts. Let me leave you by reminding you of your life’s work:
@kanchelskis: “After A.Cole, Baines is the best PL left back”
LOL squared.
AntiScouser
You correct my english incorrectly, and why point away from the facts and towards grammar?
Everton have consistently over-performed in the Premiership. You cannot consider 1 season when squads evolve every year. Talk-shite is anyway a pathetic reference.
You end with LOL – very condescending.
A big joke because instead of linking your ‘proof’ you asked us to do it for you, and when you were asked to do it yourself you brandished it instantly. It’s not funny, and laughing at your own silly trick continues your pathetically disrespectful approach.
I have spoken politely to you several times on this thread, each time logically backing my view. You have ignored all these posts, until childishly finding amusement by laughing at my grammar, and then chortling at your stupid trick.
You are obviously unable and unwilling to discuss your views rationally. In fact, it is your intention to be abrasive and condescending, and you chose your topics accordingly.
WillieRedNut creating wonderful images at 14:20 !
I’ll start warming up my voice immediately.
@AntiScouser
Insult?! Where’s the insult? Seriously, sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I really can’t see anything in my previous post that could be called an insult.
1. OK I believe you. They’re not far off the top – in the very narrown window examined in that study. I’m convinced that a longer view would push them further towards the top.
2. I don’t need any reminding. I’ll stick by it, and you seem to be the only person, either on here or in the real world, who finds that such a hilarious proposition.
Listen, I’m sorry Leighton Baines offends you so profoundly, for whatever reason. But I think we’ve established that – whatever the reason may be – it’s naff all to do with logic or football. Every attempt at a logical argument which you’ve come up with has been shot down, either by myself or by someone else. In the end, your last line of argment is: “copy kanchelskis’s proposition” … “paste” … “write LOL” … presumbably you’ll forgive us if we don’t take you entirely seriously.
AntiScouser
You realize that the link you posted has spurs as the most economical team, right ?
RE: Overated English players
Of course English players are overrated In England, it’s hardly surprising and happens in most countries because that’s what the general public and the media are exposed to most.
Mind you I think saying that other countries produce better is wrong. We generally only see the pinnacle of the foreign football so it looks higher, it’s much like the way people will complain about the quality of British TV and hold the US up as an example of top quality TV when in reality the overall quality of UK tv is higher it’s just we don’t see much of the lower quality shows or have to experiance the scheduling in the way we do British TV. Also sometimes their leagues just as as Competative so the foreign players themselves get overrated, just look at the number of Brazillians who while I’m Brazil are labelled the best thing since Pele but how many have gone onto be really top class players when the come to Europe?
And people have said that England’s failure internationally shows that that’s English players are poorer players but I put that down to 2 things. Expectation which is higher than in most countries and that pressure seems to make players who usually perform freeze when they wear the 3 lions. It’s slightly understandable when you see the way the press demonise players for mistakes. The second is the general playing style in England, many of the other Countries natural playing styles translate better to the style needed internationally (perhaps partly because England seem to decide to play agains our natural game style).
@Kanchelskis & Antiscouser:
The Evereton angle is ridiculous – I mean TonyV was signed from Wigan from ffs!!! However, IMO, there are players who I think are just as good, if not better than Baines, and despite all, I still think Evra is pretty damned good (I can explain why I think so, but it’s too lengthy). I think Fabio for one, is probably just as good, if not better than Baines (minus the freekicks of course). People will slaughter me for this, but I like the look of Assuo-Ekoto as well. Clichy seems to be doing surprisingly well at shitty, compared to some of his arsenal performances. Mind you, Cole has also started signs of being on the wane. But like I said, the entire thing of “he’s from a mid-table club and hence he’s shit” is absolute fuckall, if you ask me.
@Jeet
If only AntiScouser could construct an argument like you, eh?
Looking at Assou-Ekotto and Clichy, of course the issue of availability becomes relevant. Everton are a selling club, where Spurs and City predominantly aren’t.
WRN- 14:12. And LUFC White as court jester
AuntieScouser
There are NOT better teams than Everton = Everton in top 2.
There are NO better teams than Everton = Everton is top.
It is not Baines alone you hate, it is merely all the scousers.
If Messi, Ronaldo, Hazard and Kagawa wanted to join us from Everton, you’d moan.
Everybody says stupid/incorrect/childish things. The difference between me and you boys is that I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong.
Look, for example, at this pathetic excuse for a human being that goes by the name of Albert Ross. I cite a reference that supports my point (a valid point if I may add), not a perfect reference, but still a reference (something which he’s not done), and he goes on to say:
“Everton have consistently over-performed in the Premiership. You cannot consider 1 season when squads evolve every year. Talk-shite is anyway a pathetic reference”
…he cites no reference to back his own views and practically copies kanckelskis critique of my reference. I’ve offered something when challenged. I accept the criticism, the study’s not perfect, if you find a better one with different results I will gladly change my opinion.
And that’s a quality you do not possess. I’m supposed to respect you? Take a look in the mirror, pal.
AntiScouser, 14:47: “Ah, finally, you resort to insult. Sad, but predictable.” (in spite of no insult uttered)
AntiScouser, 15:08: “Look, for example, at this pathetic excuse for a human being that goes by the name of Albert Ross”
Fun times.
@ Jeet – Hello mate. You ain’t going to get slaughtered by me for bringing up A-E. Seen a lot of Spurs games this season and he has got better as the season has gone in.
Hypothetically speaking if Evra was unavailable for first few months of next season I can guarantee people will start to miss him. I don’t think he should be replaced I just think he needs a spell out the team for a while. I’d prefer to see Fabio have a run at left back or even Zeke Fryers (if he’s signed a new deal) but thats unlikely to happen.
Baines would be a good option and we can start to have but I would never put him as the best LB in the PL behind ashley cole.
@kanchelskis
I could construct a better argument if I had more time to accumulate all the facts. I’m working so I don’t. This is not an excuse, but you should be aware of the fact.
“Did you realise that Everton were 3rd, not 18th, in terms of value per point? Be honest” was conceived as an inslut. Be honest.
I know you’re all dying to see Kagawa’s magnificent goal from earlier today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8YC5uKpcY
“Albert Ross is a pathetic excuse for a human being”
Correct. It is my moniker. A fairly pathetic excuse for a human being (me!)
I use it to excuse myself from the forum, and be ably represented there.
It protects me from foolish abusers.
Speaking to the forum about me, instead of conversing with me is cowardice. Their views of me are not determined by your silly abuse, and anyway I don’t tailor my views to pander to the fickle opinions of the audience. I present them as they are, and in my manner.
You are not “supposed to respect” me, or anyone.
That you even consider that respect is demanded, tells why you never show any.
@AntiScouser
No, it wasn’t conceived as an insult. The way you had ‘LOL’ed when referring to the fact they were ONLY 3rd in the table, suggested to me that you had been confused by the admittedly bizarre decision to format the table backwards and to have Everton in 18th. Having them in third broadly supports the argument of those arguing that they have good points/pounds ratio. Them being 18th – for me – would’ve warranted a lol. Being 3rd, less so.
@kanchelskis
Ok, I believe you. Can we move on?
Actually Baines is one of England’s best left backs and one of the world’s best left back. He’s at least a top 10 left back on the world stage without a doubt. Just because he plays for Everton takes NOTHING away from his talent. he is a far better DEFENDER than Evra but Evra is much better going forward. He takes freekicks, superb corners and generally all setpieces. He is FAR BETTER than Evra when it comes to positioning and getting back. Evra LOVES to get sucked in which is why nearly EVERY team we have played has put its most dangerous winger on the right side cuz they know fully well our vulenrability at the back. I think we should sign him and he should start STRAIGHT AWAY. he is four years younger than Evra too which is always a plus. Evra must be getting tired after not missing a single game ALL YEAR again.
@AntiScouser
From that, sure.
Redbilly – Or sachu?
Actually, both! 
Will Keane interviewed at England U19:
http://www.thefa.com/England/mens-u19s/News/2012/will-keane-preview-230512.aspx
Had a good look at all significant vids of Hazard on youtive (I know!), and can’t help but feel that this lad is the real deal. Reminds me a lot of Ronnie, not just the skills, but also the swagger and the attitude. Doesn’t have Ronnie’s raw physicality or his freekicks, but also seems to be slightly more intelligent with his pass and move thing.
Hope we get him, and he doesnt turn out to be a huge untameable cunt.
On a similar note, I also scouted Michu on youtube, and have to say that he didnt impress – no not even on youtube.
Lads, I’ve been doing my YouTube scouting, and I think I’ve got the solution to all our problems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVRCT67zI_k&feature=related
Baines is a quality left back.
Willie – Quality mate at 14.20. Like Kings said to me this aftrenoon who the fuck does this little cunt Hazard think he is, putting United in same bracket as those two small clubs City and Chelsea. Furthermore why the fuck has he agreed terms with all three? Oh apparantly so he can enjoy his holidays. Fuck of you cunt.
Baines isn’t better than Evra though. My own take on the matter.
Why has AntiScouser posted the SAME post as the username coomy? Antiscouser is always negative and argumentative.
King Eric !
Well spotted sir!
coomy = AntiScouser = Who else I wonder?
He got angry with Albert Ross for no apparent reason.
@KE / Albert Ross
No, coomy was quoting, but ham-fistedly. His bit was the one about Liverpool being 2nd in the list.
kanchelskis
Thanks! A witch-hunt averted, thank goodness!
coomy does NOT = AntiScouser or anyone else!
@kanchelskis
Thankfully, reason prevails.
King Eric – I know mate. It’s not like Fergie to wait on a player? He must have something about him. Personally speaking, I won’t be gutted if we miss out on Hazard. We missed out on Shearer, got Ole. Nuff said. Didn’t get Ronaldinho, but signed Ronaldo. The boss will have back up plans in place. Hopefully that’s Kagawa.
I’ll bet coomy is glad!
On Hazard. I think you should get used to it. The world has changed. There is a big big thing as money.
So get modest. We want trophies and we want quality players who would come here to play for the clubof their dream. We have one with Berba and he is going to leave. We want better players and we have nothing to do rather than wait for Hazard to make his “choice of his life”. You know, he hasn’t played a single game for us and you want him to straightforwardly play for our history and our manager and our fans etc. Cmon, get modest guys!
On Baines. He isn’t worse than Evra so no gamble. Just a competion for places which Evra, oupps, United, badly needs.
Fabio for LB ? Don’t think so already.
Cheers.
Jeet – Hazard looks a great player mate but I do not like all this bullshit at the minute.
Shinji is no back-up plan. He’s our #1 priority.
Hazard and his agent will not turn down the money. This bandit is Eastlands-bound and down, no doubt about it.
Corea – Hello mate. No. I do not want cunts having to decide between us and those two shit house clubs else its ALL about money pal. Don’t want those types. If it isnt for money then one look round OT’S trophy ROOMS and ground etc should make it a no brainer.
Fred – Inclined to agree pal. Greed and self loving written all over the pretty boy cunt.
@King Eric – i wholeheartedly agree with you pal. But how many of those who go to the games think exactly the same ? Who is at fault that bargains like Ozil etc go to other clubs ? Who is at fault Pogba chose to leave ? Who is at fault that the world is different ?
There things Fergie must understand and like he said he knows that the change has happened and sometimes you should just get on with it. Agents thing included.
Sign Kagawa for 16 mln and let’s just move on. To our next target. Hazard may choose what he wants. This whole thing is sad and we may get angry but it’s the way it is.
City and Chelsea will be sending him all sorts of bribes and sweeteners to help him make his decision, no question of that.
I don’t get this “players who sign for other clubs are greedy money grabbing whores” rethoric. Like our players are poorly paid? Like we don’t sign players by offering them huge wages? Come on. We’re no different.
We are in a weaker position when bidding for top players: (1) due to Glazeronomics, as we have less money to put into bidding and less wage money to offer, (2) because SAF is coming to the end of his tenure and players are affraid, in my opinion reasonably, what will happen with the club once he retires.
I know evra has dropped in standards he set but baines being better defensively?. Have you actually watched him against some top wingers?. He’s good but he is not the world class player some people make him out to be. He’s decent and will provide competition for patrice but he’s no world beater and for someone to say he’s amongst the top 10 left backs in the world, well name me at least 5? the quality in full-back position around the world has dropped significantly. You get mostly wing-backs these days. Not many quality all round players.
Fergie will bribe him by sending over Jorge Mendes to seal the deal.
You know, I’ve never heard anything like this in my life. A player keeping three clubs on tenterhooks before very publicly rejecting two of them.
I can’t imagine Fergie being very happy with that.
willirednut
I shall perform my duties with the respect and diligence the post derserves
AntiScouser
You attacked me viciously and without cause.
@Fred
See my post at 8:58 for some possible defences of Hazard’s behaviour.
How has he managed to agree personal terms with all 3 clubs? Either United have matched City’s offer in wages (which I find as hard to believe as an Antiscouser comment) or he’d like to join us for less? Either way, they say he will make up his mind by June 2nd. Here’s hoping. That way we can focus on finally buying Heskey.
@wayne
Thanks mate. Still undecided!
England fans heading to the Euros are going to be targeted by a group of Ukranian radicals. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4333917/England-fans-Euro-2012-topless-demo-targets.html Please join me in praying for their safety.
Costas – could well be that he is demanding more from City than he is from us, as I theorised the other day. That would explain the reports that City of all people were baulking at his excessive demands.
Costas – The 3 packages will not be identical, and that applies to wages.
United offer a far bigger market for endorsements, so perhaps that will balance it.
@Fred
Poor sods.
By the way I think Willie is frigging hilarious…….. Just saying, for what its worth
KE
hey up mate. don’t like hazard. boy got skills but can’t figure out what fergie wants with another winger. what’s the story mate, is young or nano on the way out. been out of the UK for a couple of months maybe I’m missing something here. the layaway links on the other hand sound tasty
I truly believe Fergie could convince any player in the world to sign for United. All he would need, is a one on one sit down, with that player.
slim –
I’m no longer laying blame at pogba’s agent anymore, i think he wants to move juve for whatever reason. Perhaps that’s dream club but he has left united high and dry. Maybe FERGIE shouldn’t have given him all those credits, it’s all gone into his head but he’ll realise the italian league isn’t all rosey. It’s tactical over there, more pragmatic than any league. Good fortune to him adapting.
I’d imagine FERGIE has someone else lined up. Nick powell has been doing the rounds, his stats back up all the hype of being a talented midfielder. Time will tell if united are actually interested/ Wanting to sign or have signed him.
Hazard is fucking about. Never placed my hopes on him signing, seems bound for city and to avoid the embarrassment, it’s probably best we show less reliance on his arrival.
Oh and so is Fred! Always puts a smile on my face
kanchelskis – that’s all very well but there’s no excuse for making his decision in such a public way. Clubs like to get their transfer business done quickly and quietly, but Hazard is doing the exact opposite.
lol nano.
Nani
@Fred, Albert Ross
Probably guys. I found it hard to believe that we would match their offer in wages. And Fred is onto something about City baulking at his demands. Didn’t make that connection.
At least it’s good to know that there are still some players that won’t accept City’s offer with their eyes closed. I still expect him to sign for them or Chelsea though, lol.
@Fred
Agreed.
United won’t offer the same wages as city. As been said, incentives will be included in our deal. Also structured in a way like Rooney’s transfer. Depended on how the players fares, and United of course. His appearances. United winning the CL…..
Cedars – thank you, I’m touched! You’re pretty darn funny too.
samuel – that last paragraph you wrote sums up my thoughts exactly. Anyone hoping for Hazard should heed your advice.
You’re a beautiful soul, Cedars? And a drunk!
Willie
I only drink on weekdays, on week ends I only have booze!! If anything though, I am no drunk, just ask Mike and Jimmy James, I just cannot handle alcohol. Always out drunk by women, well one woman in particular and she is Irish!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/shinji-kagawa-scores-classy-goal-japan-v-azerbaijan/
Speaking of Hazard’s decision, I’m sure Vincent Kompany will be offering plenty of advice over in Belgium’s training camp.
@Vidic
I reckon my Sunday League team and I could score a classy goal against Azerbaijan.
willie,
funny post that
evening reds…
Another bitter by Keano on a fellow Manchester United player (Gary Neville). He was my hero as a player but he has become a bitter spiteful person
Cedars – No shame there mate. These fucking woman can put the drink away!
Talking of the ladies, the sun brings them out in all their glory? God love heatwaves!
You’re not wrong there, Willie. Fucking hell…
Have we signed anyone yet? Have we signed anyone yet?
Another United orgasm for you…..
Imagine Keane, Robbo and Cantona playing again today! Fuck me up side down…. Would the other team even turn up? Oh and through in Ole just for a laugh, at the opposition of course
Willie
Not any women mate, Irish women to be exact…..Its like fucking water to them, I shit you not. Oh and speaking of heat waves come on over to Beirut, fucking hell threads are sold by the inch these days. Skimpy clothes all over the place
Throw in Ole not through!! Fucks sake
Would throw in Nobby Stiles in there as well, try and get past the Collyhurst RED, he’ll fucking murder ya!!
Welcome to Newcastle Romain Amalfitano.
I am sure he’ll be worth 20 million in 12 months time.
Sir Matt ‘Just give the ball to Best’
Why would anyone else really bother, Bestie did everything
Would take Kagawa over Hazard as far as his wages are concerned. Dont think Fergie would buy a 21yr old with sky high wages. Hazard being talented is a different thing altogether.
2Olegend and his ways! OT beckons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9VQH9akwk&sns=em
What happens when you fail the ABUnati?
http://www.agentoffergie.com/2012/05/crime-punishment.html
Nobby Stiles wan not just a tough player, he was like a brick wall…….You never got past him, no sir…Bugger lost most his teeth for the cause
United Kit: Hard to take when one finds oneself envious of Swansea kit ?!
Might grow on me
No, not bloody likely
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608 #MUFC
Made up United dressing room…………
Nobby to Hazard ‘What the fuck you looking at’
Hazard rushed to hospital with cardiac arrest
how was i drag in the dispute between antiscouser and albert ross, my post was just to mock loserpool, i think you guy has misread it and by the way, i think leighton baines will be a great addition to the squad, world class or not it will bring competition for the post and that could only be a good thing
Arsenal make a 3 million bid for Joe Allen?
via Doron Salomon
MUFC (46%), Blackpool (48%) and AFC (48%) were the only clubs with wages under 50% of turnover in 2010/11. City (114%) only club over 100%
Another scene……
Stiles to Keane ‘What the fuck you looking at’
Keane ‘At you, you fuck’
Stiles ‘Fair enough’ Shakes hands and walks out to the pitch
what u guys think about yohann cabaye, this is the one i see most fitted with our 4-4-2
We need fucking leaders again……..Enough of this twink links. Men on the pitch who take no prisoners, dicks like hazard who would collapse at every tackle are not the answer
Manchester United are proud to announce the signing of Remote Control
SAF: Remote Control will bring us much needed pause forward rewind stop play when we really needed it the most to influence the result
Remote Control will take over Fergie Time.
David Gill: With Sony Cameras I will always be there in the thick of the action – Introducing 50 fps shooting.
Manchester United are also proud to announce the signing Maximus Decimus Meridius
SAF: Maximus has been signed to fulfil the role of Roy Keane.
Maximus: My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
And of course I shall win the crowd at OT.
David Gill: With Sony Digital 4K I will shoot our hero into eternity
There Cedars, enjoy
I know most have an affection for Ronaldo and rightly so, he is class. Not my type of player though….Give me a midfield general any day of the week. A boss on the pitch, a fucking leader and non of this crying bull shit
MG
Singing my tune I see!!
If Nobby Stiles ever met Terry he would murder him
Cedars
I always sing your tune
United is one of only five EPL clubs to make a profit in 2010-11. Clearing £12M
City recored a £197m loss, the biggest loss ever in football history!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/23/premier-league-losses-2010-11-profits
Fletchty Man
You back in the US yet?
Barton ….. 12 match ban. Potential wasted. Sad
Cedars. Ya mate. I am in LA for a couple months, then off to Switzerland for the next year. What they say about LA weather….. OMG it is true. Drop jaw gorgeous today on the west side.
Well Fletch if you see Spielberg tell him I hated War of the Worlds it was a pile of shit
And he’ll never be forgiven for that trash of an Indy movie with skulls
And if he says who dares take on the T-Rex – tell him we got an MG!
MG Sure thing son. You just knew me and Stevie was mates didn’t ya
Did have a meeting with Nicole Kidman once. Classy lady.
That’s about it for my gliteratti moments.
Evening cheese dicks
Is the coast clear? Bobbed on a few times this aft but there was a domestic going on with unclescouser!
Sorry, but its just my opinion, Baines is not better than Evra. On par, maybe, but definitely not an improvement. That money, however little, should go somewhere more important. We don’t need Baines
@marq
couldnt agree more. evra is class and always will be for me.
@cedars: Could you suggest one of these midfield generals that we are in need of?
whats up fellow reds !!!! i dont agree with the whole baines business..overrated and english..we have a few of those already
From four clubs it’s down to three,
The fucker Hazard won’t come for free,
Spending Ages thinking under a tree,
Doesn’t he know UNITED are the root of the footballing tree?
Good evening fellow REDS!
Jeff
Bastian Schweinsteiger
Marq – Evra needs competition for his position. We are one of the biggest clubs in the world and can’t afford having a player in the squad who thinks he can play as poor as he wants and won’t be dropped.
Which is clearly the case with Evra.
Besides that we have no cover since Fabio will be on loan.
think we need a new thread too. this is gettin damn long
Fletch
Bravo Fletch!
LA Takedown here we come
Evra does not think that he can play as poor as he wants and he won’t be dropped.
Bastian the beast, how good would he look in a United shirt?
@ Cedars
Better than RVP I suppose?
Mikey loves fucking around in his Audi,
Thinks he’s the BlueMoon Daddy,
Worships Tevez and idolizes the cunt Balotelli,
Our dear Mikey loves that club known as Shitty!!!
Prasan
No need for that at all…. No one looks better than RvP, however Bastian is who we need
Damn, Barton was a shout but missing a third of the season don’t think Sir Alex will bother now!!!!!!!
Breaking News:
Eden Hazard would like to confirm that he has accepted terms with the following teams and will make his decision after a porn binge.
Real Madrid Barcelona AC MIlan Juventus PSG Al Sadd Shanghai Shenhua
He rejected the offer from Liverpool because they are not playing in the Champions League – the other’s are in respective continents.
Breaking News:
Not Sure has declared that he’s seeking damages from Manchester United fans over accusations that he’s not sure about signing for Manchester United.
Not Sure: It pains me to say that the way I have been treated especially so called United fans on the ROM have unnerved me to an extent I cannot be sure if the decision I am making is correct.
SAF: No doubt about that
David Gill: Unfortunately I can’t shoot anything if it isn’t there.
Prasan
The illustrated man… I told you, refer to me as the illustrated man!! Going Vegas to watch the blue man group, see if I can get an audition!!
No doubt Schweinsteiger has been a great player and still is but that deal is very unlikely. I doubt he will ever leave Germany. Like in England it’s rare for their native countryman to move abroad.
Mikey loves that cunt Barton,
Gets fucking sent off and throws away the baton,
Does the dirty job in midfield,
His mouth doesn’t have a button,
Still Mikey loves the man and clips the transfer curtain,
He LOVES Shitty but still wants to have Joey in Tartan!
No fan of Barton but 12 games is too much.
@ Mike
Hahahaha…Vegas would be a blue moon paradise for you in that case mate!
Jeffy Jeff
I know he will never join us, was just answering your question
Been watching a couple of Scholes’ goals on MUTV and in my opinion his goal against Borough is the BEST goal I have EVER seen in my life! WHAT A HIT! FUCKING ROCKET! Legend
I’m not a fan of Barton either
Suarez gets banned for 8 games of racism – yes okay Liverpool fans let’s have you – boring!
Barton gets done for what was really a shove? 12 games! How do you justify that over a racial incident?
How did Balotelli get away with what he has done so many times against Spurs/Arsenal…
Fucking pathetic really
Cedars
Appears your beloved RVP may be extending his stay at the emirates.
Mike
Course he will, that is loyalty for ya
Or is he???
@AntiScouser
We don’t have less money for wages. The clubs policy for atleast the last 25 years has been that wages should be no more than 50% of revenue. To blame the Glazers for continuing a sensible policy on wages is just idiotic.
@Costas
There are reports in France he has agreed wages lower with us than at the other clubs. There are factors other than wages that do come into play and some of these are factors which Chelsea and City can’t better us on.
Mind you I doubt our offers that much lower than the other 2.
@samuel
Nah Pogbas agent is the root cause. Footballers aren’t traditionally the smartest people anyway and when they are young players as well it won’t be hard for an agent who is supposed to be looking out for you to keep whispering in their ear to influence them. I suspect Juve and Pogbas agents is telling him that he will get more game time at Juve which I personally doubt he will get as English clubs seem to blood young players more than the Italian clubs.
Rumors that our bid for Hazard is in the £31M range.
Hazard £31M> Berbatov 29M (no value ??)
Wakey – if those reports from France are correct, it reflects very well on Eden Hazard imo.
United leads all other EPL Clubs in
TotalTurnover £331M
Gate/Match Income £109M
TV/Broadcast Income £119M
Commercial Income £119M
But also leads in
Net Debt £308M
Interest payable £50M/year
Wages as percent of turnover: at 46% (lowest in league) yep even with Rooney factored)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/23/premier-league-accounts-profit-debt
OPTA website.
Baines was dribbled past 10 times this season.
Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole were both beaten 29 times.
Evra and Ashley played in the champions league while Baines played in only local competitions hence meeting world class wingers.
Evra and Ashley played in the champions league while Baines played in only local competitions hence they both met world class wingers.
@Wakey
Yeah, that’s probably what’s happening with Hazard. Although I imagine that if City are offering him wages in the Toure range, then it’s a lot more than what we are offering. But we don’t know for sure.
Quick comment on Pogba. It’s all on him I feel. There were comments from his agent where he said that he advised him to accept United’s offer. So the fact that he’s yet to commit to United has to do with him wanting out.
That’s a pretty interesting stat from Albert Ross, especially as it disproves the anecdotal evidence I’ve been reading on United blogs and forums since last night, which suggested that Baines’s biggest weakness was the ease with which he is frequently beaten by wingers.
It would be useful to know if those are domestic-only stats, as Udhala makes a good point ALTHOUGH it’s worth noting that in Basel, Benfica, Otelul Galati, Ajax and Bilbao, United weren’t exactly facing the world class opposition Udhala suggested
@Udhala
I suspect that the OPTA stats are just PremierLeague games. In Evra’s defence mind you he played 5 more games and United play a more open style of football where as Everton pack the midfield more so Evra’s always going to get caught more just as Baines would playing for us.
@Costas
I don’t think it’s anywhere near what they are paying Yaya Toure. Everything in the press suggest the days of overpaying wages to that level are now gone because with a League Title and CL football they don’t believe it’s needed to attract players now.
On Pogba I haven’t seen those quotes but personally agent quotes are meaningless. They may be the bad guys but getting a rep as a bad guy isn’t good for business. Pogba just doesn’t strike me as someone wanting away. He looks happy when with both the first team and reseverves and surely if he wanted off that badly he would be gone. He seems to me like someone being pulled in lots of directions by people with motivates of their own .
Mind you what I don’t understand is why United haven’t activated the extra year clause to atleast force Juve to have to pay a higher fee.
@Wakey
Maybe he was happy at Le Havre too. Until a lucrative offer came along and he left without second thought. I think this is a case of history repeating itself. Only this time we are in Le Havre’s shoes. Can’t find a link with the Raiola story I told you. If I remember correctly, the gist of it was that Raiola told him to accept United’s offer but Pogba still hadn’t made up his mind. I have a feeling he still hasn’t…
Hasn’t he noticed that we’re short on central midfielders? You’d think he’d fancy his chances of breaking into the first team, but apparently not. Seems like he blew his chance by faffing about with his contract.
Getting dribbled past is one thing, being there to be dribbled past is another, stats can be misleading
OPTA stats is from eplindex .com – Everton Analysis – it applies only to the Premier League.
“If Leighton Baines’ statistics going forward were not quite as imperious as in recent seasons – although he still created the 11th most chances in the league – his defensive performances were excellent once again. His ability at the back is often masked by his superb contribution going forward, but few wingers ever get the better of him. Baines was only dribbled past 10 times this season, whereas Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole were both beaten 29 times. It was very fitting that he made the PFA Team of the Year.”
http://www.eplindex.com/14562/everton-201112-good-bad-opta-stats-analysis.html
Like I said, if he went walkabout in the final 3rd, the opposition didn’t have to dribble past him to create a chance from his side. So that statistic is flawed. Perhaps if you couple it with tackles attempted/won, it would show the better picture
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