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Mark Ogden on signing RvP, imploding and conspiracy theories

Mark Ogden, Daily Telegraph Northern Football Correspondent, looks ahead to United’s 2012-2013 season.

Scott the Red: United never implode at the end of the season. What do you think happened?

Mark Ogden: United have had a few wobbles during the run-in in the past, so it wasn’t totally unusual that it happened last season. I also think that the eight-point lead was misread by players, fans and ourselves in the media alike. With the away game at City still to come, it was never really an eight-point lead in the sense that City had to hope for an almighty collapse by United. All they had to do was beat United and hope for another defeat and a draw, which is eventually what happened. But yes, it’s still unusual for that to happen to United, so they can have no excuses. They were abysmal at Wigan and totally naïve against Everton, when all they had to do was sit on a two-goal lead.

Why did it happen? God knows, but all it means is that we can get rid of a few old clichés in terms of United always getting stronger, United having the experience of the run-in and the been-there, done-it mentality. We can come up with some new ones this season.

STR: Is United’s current squad capable of putting it right and winning the league this season?

MO: Yes, especially now that Van Persie has arrived. Having lost the last title on goal difference, it would be ridiculous to suggest that they are no longer in contention for the league, especially when you consider that the gap between United and Arsenal in third was almost the length of the M1!

The return of Vidic is key, but I still wonder if the lack of a powerhouse midfielder, a la Yaya Toure or Roy Keane, will prove decisive in the end. It’s a question of whether Van Persie’s goals will negate the need for new legs in midfield.

STR: Ferguson confirming interest in Lucas Moura and Robin van Persie was weird, right?

MO: I know there are a few conspiracy theories around this one, that the public confirmation was linked to the IPO and projecting an image of an ambitious club chasing the best players. But it’s not as though Fergie hasn’t spoken in the past about players that he wants to bring in. He talked openly about wanting Owen Hargreaves, Carlos Tevez, Dimitar Berbatov and even Samir Nasri in the past, so I think it’s more a tactic to get things moving or maybe even prompt a player to drive the deal from his end. It obviously worked with Van Persie – eventually!

STR: Looking to one of our other new signings, do you fancy Kagawa to make a big impact?

MO: He looked useful during the tour of South Africa and China, but he wasn’t facing world-beaters, so he can’t be judged on that. To have done so well in Germany with Borussia Dortmund suggests that he has what it takes to do well at Old Trafford, but I know that United have been wary of signing players from the Bundesliga in the past, particularly attacking players. Their view is that the Bundesliga isn’t quite up to the level of the Premier League, Spain or Italy once you get beyond the top two or three, so you are taking a chance on a player thriving in a stronger league. To back that up, Edin Dzeko hasn’t exactly been a world-beater at Manchester City after scoring non-stop for Wolfsburg, but who knows?

STR: Finally, what’s your best Manchester XI?

MO: Hart; Smalling, Vidic, Kompany, Evra; Yaya Toure, Carrick, Silva; Valencia, Rooney, Aguero. Sub: Hargreaves..

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534 Comments

  1. Costas says:

    Sub: Hargreaves. :lol:

  2. Build a Bonfire says says:

    bollox

  3. parjo says:

    Hargreaves? Really? Isn’t he out of contract?

  4. Build a Bonfire says says:

    Ohhhhhh Owen Hargreaves your wereeee the love of my life…………;)

  5. Sara says:

    I honestly dont believe that RvP signed to get a fat pay cheque.Being a mercurial striker,he had a raft of suitors but only three clubs were mentioned.You would be naive to think that the prying eyes of Chelsea,Psg,Anzhi,Real etc were not keeping tabs on the player.They all did and most of the aforementioned clubs would have blown us out of the water if it came to wages and transfer fees.Selling him to us was not an option to Wenger and he reiterated that he would rather have sold him abroad.That should ring bells that obviously he sat down with Van and the player clearly made his wish is a move to United. One thing i respect about Wenger is that he also listens to the wishes of his players and will never castigate them even after leaving the club.Of course like any other working mortal you have to consider the wages being offered as we all have a life to lead.The over-riding factor was to geta club that would ultimately win him trophies before he hangs up his boots. Im surprised that many are now poking holes after the gaffer procured last season,s top scorer.Talk about damned if you do and damned if you dont.Get real people and pray that he dovetails immaculately with our other strikers.
    . Some fans are really hard to please.

  6. Red Dane says:

    Hey peeps, been reading ROM for a long time. Never posted though, can’t say why tbh, but with the hargreaves comment I just couldn’t resist. Hahahaha.

    Loving Hargreaves as the sub.

  7. Sara says:

    Shinji is jaw-dropping.Im sure he is raring to go,it might take time(a few matches)but once he gets into gear,he will take the league by storm.Here’s hoping the curse of injuries does’nt rear its ugly head on the team like last season.
    Go Kagawa!

  8. tomDAbomb says:

    Morning fellow reds
    season starts monday

  9. King Eric says:

    Is Ogden a Red?

  10. Red Rupert says:

    They’re not fans though, Sara. Just ppl with a computer and too much time on their hands.

  11. Dandivine7 says:

    Regarding Kagawa, I’ve got no qualms about Him thriving in England, He’s not going to be the one everybody looks up to thus He’ll be more relaxed and settle in nicely. As for the squad as a whole, I expect United to at least in addition to the League, win the League cup or FA Cup too. Its a fantastic blend of Youth, raw talent and proven quality at the highest level. Good to go!

  12. meatnpotato says:

    Van Persie, Whoooooaaaaaaa
    Van Persie, Whoooooaaaaaaa
    He saw us win 8-2
    And said I’m joining you

  13. Sara says:

    Dandivine7
    I agree pal

  14. Costas says:

    @Parjo

    Must have been pisstake. Just like his selection of Smalling at right back.

  15. 911_DEVIL says:

    :P the gap was almost the length of M1
    Fucking ABU in full swing!

    Ha ”we were getting bored of of been-there done it, mentality.
    Fuck me
    We can get rid of some old cliches in terms of united always getting stronger!

    Again wrong you prick

    Had it was not for injuries we could of won the the league
    We implemented the negative tactics at emptyhad because our player (the ones who were fit) got exhausted for playing a lot of games without rest..
    Tell me which team in the league can survive losing 11 regulars through injureis at the same time?

  16. Lee Martins Winner says:

    Re Kagawa:

    I really think this boy is going to blow the premier league apart. I have been impressed by many things, pace, two footed, spots a pass, great close control etc… but for me THE most impressive part is his attitude. I believe I read that he wanted to earn the no,7 shirt and at this point was not worthy. Now that is a touch of class.

    RVP is a massive bonus, cool finisher with a great goal to chance ratio. Think of welbeck and chicho in training, they both have the right attitudes to learn so much from him. RVP could add 5 million to both thier value’s through thier development.

    Midfield, (RANT TIME), SAF has run our club from 1st team to youth policy for over a QTR of a century. I can see the arguement for a massive midfiled name to bring in strength, but I have to trust the fact that he knows what he is doing. Us Reds should realise that the bloke will go down in history as the GREATEST manager of all time, he has not only been succesful, but also built a club and ADDED and Ehanced our great history… He has played football the RIGHT way as well.

    All in all I am buzzing for this season………… should be the usual UTD rollercoaster of LOVE…

    WE are the Pride of all Europe……………………………………

  17. Sara says:

    911
    Thats a big ask to lose 11 players and still challenge for the top honours.It was all a downward spiral for shitty when yaya left.
    All hail the genius Fergie.

  18. Corea says:

    2 worlds class journos put Valencia ahead of Nani. :) No comments. :)

    And Smalling at right back. You know, kinda agree. Not that inventive in attack but all round play when he was played at RB i liked.

  19. Corea says:

    Oh no, Costas already mentioned Smalling..
    He was impressive at right back and what i really liked was his energy levels. He was very active in attack and tracked back exemplary.

  20. Sara says:

    Smalling is at his best at the heart of defence.Playing hm at right back should be a contigency plan when the team is afflicted by injuries.
    I do rate big smalling n im sure he will banish the memories of losing kompany in the derby last season.Very unassuming,gets on with his job quietly.
    In doubt?Ask tevass

  21. 911_DEVIL says:

    I only read the 1st paragraph
    Ha, what a deluded journo.

  22. TonyBee says:

    The prick calling another prick a prick… Fucking priceless…

    And welcome back KingEric now we know the season is about to start….

    COME ON YOU FUCKING REDS

  23. 911_DEVIL says:

    @Sara no words
    We nearly won it, only god knows what hit us that day vs everton, unusual performance by the lads
    Imo complacency within the squad got us found out

  24. Collyhurst Red says:

    Good morning fellow ROM’ers

    I’ve kept really quiet until now (whilst it was silly season) , but I’ll tell you this, I will love it when this season starts!

    Got my season tickets now, happy days!

    :-)

  25. Collyhurst Red says:

    Lawro’s predictions on BBC have us drawing 0-0 with Everton, WTF!

    And he knew that we had signed RVP, dickhead!

  26. 911_DEVIL says:

    Enough with this tonybee
    Just post away and leave me alone

  27. Sara says:

    911
    I reckon Fergie’s team selection was wrong in its entirety.A look back at the match against pisspoool,it was the same mistake that he did.We were to cautious and defensive.They were there for the taking but we can only hope that lessons have been learned
    I,ve been an advocate of Keano and Fergie burying the hatchet then we can have him give the lads a talk.If this is never going to happen,then we can get RedNev to do it behind closed doors.
    But you are bang on point Re:complacency.I wish this season the lads will play to the final whistle and not be led into thinking a game has been won with a few minutes to spare.
    Cheers pal

  28. 911_DEVIL says:

    Me too I’ve been reading the blog for 24 years
    Decided to post today
    Bollox :D

  29. Sara says:

    Just turn a blind eye 911.It was unanimously agreed that if you dont get along with certain posters then best to ignore reading their posts.Goat aptly summarised this point.Dont get into name calling and fights.Personally ive got broad shoulders and can take the abuse but i wount stoop too low to respond to anyone who goads me.
    Ill prove my worth on here and have decided to forgive everyone we have crossed paths.

  30. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Collyhurst Red

    To be fair mate 3-3 at Goodison after being 1-3 up, then last years main reason we lost the league that 4-4.

  31. 911_DEVIL says:

    Yeah @sara
    Let’s kick ass this coming
    I’m sure the gaffer will not tolerate complacency this time around
    the signing on robin will take off some pressure on waynes shoulder, and he will be banging in goals for fun

    Exciting times ahead
    United, united, united!!!

  32. 911_DEVIL says:

    Season ;) F typos

  33. Collyhurst Red says:

    Giggs12

    Lawro thinks no goals at all though, we used to have close tight games at OT in the past but 0-0.

    :-)

  34. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha, @sara
    One of you best points on ROM was:

    Live and let live
    Absolutely love that to bits

    For one I don’t know what’s the point of slate someone
    Maybe other dudes get pleasure from doing so, you can’t know, its a weird world. More strange to note some people target you and call you names on a fucking blog they never met you to classify your personality

  35. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Collyhurst

    Yeah thats true mate, im there Monday I dont think i would be dissapointed with a point at the end of it. In the boozer last night trying to agree starting 11, fuck knows with Fergie, i would imagine RvP and Kagawa will start on the bench.

  36. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Plus i forgot to add Lawro is a useless cunt, more personality in a bitter blue than that deluded cunt.

  37. Sara says:

    For some reason,i just remembered Evra’s statement that Arsenal is a training camp.Haha he was so spot on.Van and now Song.Its a really worrying trend when you keep losing your best players every summer.The average now seems to be two players off season.Evra is an oracle.

  38. kk says:

    Hi King Eric,missed you here. It is good you are back before the season starts.
    I believe,if Anderson puts himself about and imposes himself plus uses his bum well he can be our answer to Yaya albeit he lacks his experience.

  39. parryheid says:

    I didn’t want Van Persie here however he is here and doesn’t weaken the team.But my concerns remain the same all teams we play will come at us on our left side and fire crossed unhindered into our goalmouth and as usual our right back primarily will be blamed,We will also be swamped in midfield yet again as both positions are being neglected,if I was to be proved wrong no doubt some on here will take great joy in telling me but I am confident I wont be.Let the season begin.

  40. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Parry

    Disagree in midfield with key personnel back we have more than enough quality in there. You only had to watch England to see that.

    Left back is a huge concern for me, i cant believe we have not added there. I thought Baines would have been nailed on at the start of the season.

    Confused by your Van Persie comments, he was the best player in the league last year so makes us stronger by some. We have had to rely on Rooney all too much with Danny needing to add goals to his game and Chico’s loss of form post injury.

  41. Zibbie says:

    KE slips in!!!

  42. Sara says:

    parryheid
    Some interesting perspective there.I think we are adopting a policy of outscoring the opposition which in my opinion is throwing caution to the wind.We did the same begining of last season and as soon as the goals started drying up we regressed.But who am i?Fergie knows best.

  43. Rai says:

    Paul Merson is a cunt

  44. five says:

    http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/394537_395613557160682_155117744_n.jpg

    “This little lad was at the Bridgewater hospital last night to catch a glimpse of Robin van Persie. Hospital staff saw him and took him inside where he was introduced to his idol who happily posed for photos and signed autographs. Shame all footballers are not the same”

  45. The team that wouldn't die says:

    Watching the U21s.
    Fletcher doing well. Played 74 minutes now!

  46. Sara says:

    Pardew and Boas locking horns today.I really dont know whose ego will knock the other off.Two very cocky coaches i detest.

  47. The team that wouldn't die says:

    Fletcher still on the pitch. 85 minutes now.
    Could it be he will play the 1. team before xmas?

  48. Utsava Sharma says:

    Well I pretty much have a problem and I would appreciate if someone could help me out.

    I have been to loads of home matches but not a single away match. I couldn’t get an away ticket for everton but a friend has a couple of them with the problem being that there are in the main stand with the scouse scum. So I was wondering g would it be okay if I wear our red jersey and stuff?

    Anyone have any past experience which would help out a fellow red? Thanks in advance!

  49. The team that wouldn't die says:

    Utsava
    Do not wear a scarf or anything red.
    Try to bottle it up inside when we score.
    I hope you have a good doctor/dentist if you can’t help celebrating.

  50. The team that wouldn't die says:

    That’s it!
    93 minutes for Fletcher. Oh happy day!

  51. The team that wouldn't die says:

    That’s it!
    93 minutes for Fletcher. Oh happy day!

  52. Costas says:

    You have the choices of Rafael, Richards and even Jones at right back and you go with Smalling. Goes to show how much some journos know about football. I can’t remember one great game that Chris has had at right back for us.

  53. Costas says:

    Last post was directed at Sara.

  54. Zibbie says:

    I went to A Cub , Giant playoff game before the SF quake, my boos got me a Cub hat that held 2 beers, one on each side with straws to put in the beers, in the parking lot on the way out, scary seen me my boss’s one OK the other invented male primping sheek. 20 lads closing in , mob blood lust. A small group of Cub fans saw my plight, bam 5 large mid-west types with Cubs shit on came to my defense. It was on we dropped the first 7 or 8 just so fast the rest backed down. I could have been ground up that day. Cub game fine with another kit in regular season. Bear game no, 20% chance of getting punched.

  55. parryheid says:

    Giggs12GeraldO.

    My remark on Van Persie shouldn’t confuse you,my statement is he doesn’t weaken the team.As for the midfield same old as we are about to find out,
    Sara.
    last season it wasn’t about outscoring others we were playing superbly until our manager got intimidated at Liverpool and broke our momentum by playing not to lose and we never recovered our momentum fully.

  56. Zibbie says:

    Kebab a true man.

    Hello mate. So Monday you will see that game? I look forward to your game reviews.
    Kagawa pleasing to my eye.
    Clevs ready for any CM position.
    RvP wow

  57. kk says:

    Am so happy for Fletch. I have him to be ready by Jan.

  58. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Parry

    It confuses me in in the context of it, signing a world class player, top goal scorer, and player of the season yet you chose the phrase he doesn’t make us weaker. That confuses me.

  59. Zibbie says:

    parry, SAF did as you say. Only imo to win the league, 5 or 6 1-0 games settled the ship, Rio, Vida, Clevs and Anderson gone, Fletch never was and more point then the PL winning club then the year before, as well more goals then the year before. There back, Clevs almost a man, not wee Tom any longer. Kagawa added, Giggs CAM for 18 games as well. wow

  60. Costas says:

    @Zibbie

    Yeah mate I’ll watch it. Kind of a change in scenery for me this season since I’ll watch most of our games through online streaming. So hopefully I’ll comment on the games as they happen from now on. I am really glad we are going into the opening game with our strongest line up (albeit with only 4 fit defenders!). We have to win these first 2 games.

  61. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Off topic, just like to say how sad it was to hear about Winnie Johnson passing away. Finally reunited with her son, Keith. RIP

  62. Zibbie says:

    Giggs12 for parry, that is like a real big positive. :mrgreen:
    I see what you do, people back and with the German leagues best, add to the PL poy wow!!! RvP will not back down to Wazza, in a good way. He is in the worlds best strikers. As I have said, imo. RvP a better striker then Rooney, and imo Rooney the best all around player in the PL. What a team.
    Now for SAF to have a blast playing different combo’s. You all know by Feb, the boss will have his 14 or so for big games for the run in, what fun!!!

  63. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Zibbie

    I know mate but i like to take the positives we lost the league in seconds and we have added RvP, Kagawa, and we have Vidic and Clev back.

    City have added Rodwell so I think we will be ok and there is no better attacking partnership in the world.

  64. Zibbie says:

    RIP,

    hahah 4 fucking defenders, and the man so calm, no worries. Oh what a dude. Evans back in training is big, CB and LB cover. He could win a starting job this year!?!? Keane and Wooten have impressed the gaffer.

  65. Sara says:

    Costas
    Absolutely!Deploying Smalling at right back is a huge mistake.If my memory serves me right,he sometime back said its not his ideal position.For the love of God,i just want players played in their natural positions this season.Unless otherwise,plagued by injuries that would do them a world of good.
    I still have my reservations with Jones as he seems to be the jack of all trades.Too much ambivalence when it comes to Phil and so i reckon he is gonna be the utility man.

  66. Zibbie says:

    Spot on Giggs12 my man I have said this for quite some time. You just say it better. :cool:
    Lost on goal difference, and much stronger with additions and people back from injury. wow like 8 new players.

  67. Costas says:

    @Zibbie

    I’d definitely try to break up the Rio/Vidic partnership this season and insert either Evans or Smalling in there. It has to happen at some point. Rio will be 34 this fall and Vidic will be 31. And the wear and tear on their bodies is starting to tell. I hope Michael Keane is ready for the first team. I’d rather we give him a try than waste Carrick in defence.

  68. Zibbie says:

    I know I was this excited for Berba and some how??? That did not work!?????

    Time will tell,
    Kagawa, RvP and Rooney….. oh my….

  69. Costas says:

    @Sara

    Yeah I remember Smalling saying something similar. His height is one of the advantages of him playing at right back. He brings an extra aerial threat. Other than that, he just doesn’t seem comfortable there. The sad part is that someone will have to turn into a utility player this season. Hopefully it will only be Phil Jones. At the moment, I am more comfortable with him at right back (as opposed to Smalling), just like I am more comfortable with Smalling at the heart of the defence.

  70. Shebangsthedrums says:

    Oh, RIP Winnie, just when Brady may have given away where Keith’s body could be. I remember she used to always phone James Stannage on Piccadilly radio, she was so tormented, at least she now has some peace.
    On a brighter note, how fab was it to see Fletcher complete 90 mins of football today, well done to the U21′s for their win also.

  71. Sara says:

    The abu brigade never cease to amaze me.Just seen an advert regarding Aguero’s goal in the final day of the season.Rubbing it in incessantly showing Kompany’s goal celebration in the derby.Pathetic really.

  72. Zibbie says:

    Costas, I was lucky for the most part, I had coaches who rewarded playing time with performance. In training and on the field. I see SAF does this. It makes happy, or at least understanding players for the most part.
    Players know who should play.

    Smalling or Evans I agree.

    Rio stays this maybe next year before he goes to MLS or China.

  73. Zibbie says:

    Kebab wee Tom put on like 5lbs through the shoulders and chest. Just enough to take the abuse of his position??!!!!!

  74. parryheid says:

    Giggs12Gerard0.

    I’ll explain it this way then,the one part of our team I had no difficulties with was our attack.Very strong even before Van Persies arrival and he has not weakened that.You and others should have no difficulty recognizing where our clubs weaknesses are,I do and looked for Two midfielders Kagawa takes care of part of that+ a back up left back in case Evra does not get back to the defender he was.I don’t watch any pre season or friendly games whatsoever so don’t know what we are going to get with him this season and where is our other midfielder.

  75. CobhamHood says:

    United are title favorites once again! No one can stop them this season. A treble was always on the cards.. But with RvP in the squad a quadruple looks imminent..

  76. wayne says:

    Fucking wait is killing me,don’t see how he rates Italy any better than the German league really taken a dive last few years although i haven’t seen enough of Kagawa to pass any kind of judgement

  77. Zibbie says:

    Wow just went back and saw King Eric is back in force! Awesome, football and KE

    @Wayne, and I get of work at 4 I will fly home and start the DVR!!!!!! I will look to see the score, 1st.

  78. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Afternoon lads and Good Evening or whatever the fuck it is ;)

    Cedars –
    Fuck you fella :P I was in a discussion today and I said Robin Van Cedars :lol:
    My pals was confused but I filled them in, seems you are good luck charm !
    Anyways I want you now to boast the name of Kevin Prince-Cedars :D

  79. Zibbie says:

    SAF might think Evans as a big LB and Rafa on the right, just flip flop of the CL title side with Evra on the left a big RB in JOS and Brown. Then Smalling for Rio, slide Evans into Vidas spot in 3 years time, he will be 28 at his heights!

  80. Zibbie says:

    Papii Credars new son is Messi.

  81. Sara says:

    Parry
    For goodness sake,lets see what the gaffer has in store this season.Everyone can see the gaping hole in midfield thats crying out for a destroyer but i think a change of tactics is in the offing.We might ditch 4-4-2 for starters,failing that we haave an array of players for different opposition.Horses for courses and all that.

  82. Zibbie says:

    7:50 am, I was up since 6, just got shanked.

  83. Zibbie says:

    Watching Celtic

  84. Zibbie says:

    I think of RvP and Kagawa. I get a rye smile like when I’m with a hot chick and heads turn. Yep, I;m hitting that.

  85. Zibbie says:

    I saw SAF talk of how MUFC can play 18 year old’s where others can’t! It was so awesome. Here we have a history of this. An academy like no other. We can play an 18 year old were chelski and Man City can not risk this…. wow what a Club!!!!

  86. Zibbie says:

    I think we should sell Rooney, I was thinking he has not won the FA cup. Shit. :mrgree:

    As King said last thread, Kagawa, RvP and Rooney a floating triangle of nightmare for people!!!

  87. Zibbie says:

    :mrgreen: fuck

  88. jeet says:

    I am hearing worrying news of the zenit chairman confirming a bid for Nani. Would be gutted if we let him go. Anybody heard anything on this?

  89. Zibbie says:

    This Powell lad now flys under the radar with RVP and Kagawa. In 3 years he will be a power house with skill. Blasting goals from outside the 18 yard box!

  90. Zibbie says:

    Hey Jeet no I heard nothing, I see nothing I taste all.

  91. Zibbie says:

    Jeet you are a man of honor and principals. You should not be a football fan, :cool:

  92. Zibbie says:

    Nani should shine with the new additions and Clevs back.
    Welbeck and Nani new deals would please me.

  93. Sara says:

    Cobhamhood
    Hah i know that was typed sarcastically but careful what u say.Chelsea might not get a sniff at any trophy this season.

  94. Corea says:

    Just thought i had to post some in order to let Zibbie know he isn’t on his own in da house. :)

    Nani isn’t going to Zenit, that’s for sure. Of course with Moura going to the moneybags.

  95. jeet says:

    Zibbie, I shoudn’t get laid either;)

  96. Zibbie says:

    4-6

    4-2-3-1

    4-3-3

    4-4-2 diamond

    4-5-1

    4-4-1-1

    4-4-2

    oh my what will it be. 1

    If some new drug could get Fletch on the field at 95% of old self just might trump the signings!!!

  97. Zibbie says:

    Corea thanks… for real…

    Jeet lol :cool:

  98. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Fabio and Park start for QPR. ;)

  99. Zibbie says:

    I have my coffee in me and no where to go!!!!

  100. Corea says:

    We have to endure 2 day’s wait because of the Monday’s kick off.
    But what is more irritating it’s the international break coming up in the beginning of September.

  101. Zibbie says:

    Fabio, learn play then come home… Park my you be QPR’S spark.

  102. Zibbie says:

    Only plus is RVP gets 3 training days in for Monday Night Football. We are Ready!!!

  103. 911_DEVIL says:

    You can see STR’s energy on zibbie
    He broke his own record there :P

    Ji sung Park in 4-4-2 central midfield for QPR
    Good luck on your debut there park
    19

  104. Sara says:

    Willie
    Stealth United will give Le arse a run for their money.Moreover Park has a knack of banging in goals for fun against Arsenal.

  105. Costas says:

    @Zibbie

    It’s a definite plus for Tom. He’s swimming with sharks in that position. I am hopeful that he’s also strenthened his legs. Can’t have another situation where a thug tackles him hard and he misses the entire season. This past month Cleverley played a lot of football for GB without feeling a niggle, so here’s hoping.

  106. Corea says:

    So nice to see Fraizer Campbell back after horrible injury. Frazer starts for Sunderland with OShea, Richardson.

  107. Corea says:

    Thug is in the championship :)

  108. xol says:

    good news that for Fabio and Park. Fabio’s champions league final experience will be vital to that qpr side :-)

  109. Zibbie says:

    One of the main reasons the PL got me, over other top leagues is the banging and hitting that goes on. So Tom was and is always going to need to pick himself up dust off and go!!! Give some as well.
    Costas for me, Scholes tackles just fine, he is a nasty fucker. Hit him he nails you. Red mist was his mate early on in his career. Now whack and the 8 year old look at the ref like who me?

  110. Zibbie says:

    Of the twins, Fabio was the better prospect, then at MUFC Fabio lb and Rafa rb. Evra robo back, JOS and Brown hurt, Rafa steps up and takes his chance. Fabio can return and be a wonderful long term servant for MUFC, if not GO RAFA!!!

  111. Rd5454 says:

    Teat

  112. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    http://cantheyscore.com/2012/08/17/comprehensive-premier-league-preview-2012-2013-every-club-covered/

    This has got to be one of the most balanced previews you could read for the 2012-13 season. She’s assessed all the teams impartially and come up with solid predictions as well. As one would expect, she picks United for the title but expects Manchester to be ahead of the chasing pack. I agree with all her predictions, especially the Top 3.

  113. wayne says:

    With Utd being thin at LB still don’t get why Fabio was sent on loan

  114. Zibbie says:

    Kebab lets break this down, thinking 25 games each for Anderson and Clevs at a good level.

    CMF players in a 2 or 3 man set up,

    Kagawa, Clevs, Giggs, Powell,Carrick, Scholes, Anderson, Jones, Tunni, Pettruci, Lingard. Ready Wrestle !!!

  115. Zibbie says:

    Wayne SAF said because Evra never is hurt, and Fabio to good not to get game time, maybe X-Mas? Evans LB coverage with Rafa on the right. SAF in my short time I have been a fan SAF has a fast overlapping FB matched with a bigger more cb type on the other fb side.

  116. utd_fc says:

    debut games for half the league. yet we have to wait till fucking Monday. Fuck this shit.

  117. wayne says:

    Zibbie,any player is one tackle away from getting hurt,i know Evans can do a job but it’s not the same as having a proper fullback.I love Evra but he doesn’t deserve to be a automatic pick every week anyway it is what it is.

  118. Zibbie says:

    ??? Wayne I was just passing it on, I ? this as well. Keane, Evans as back up till Fabios return a calculated risk.

  119. Zibbie says:

    One more position, or one more player if it can happen, a lb or cdm or a wing???? Maybe no one. I hope for one more.

  120. Zibbie says:

    I agree Wayne no auto pick for me. I sent my resume in and got no response, for the ousting of SAF :mrgreen: I would have spent the transfer $ on booze drugs women and high class hookers. Then blow the rest.

  121. Zibbie says:

    Wow day and night difference in the HD picture on ESPN vs FOX SOCCER! both hd.

  122. 911_DEVIL says:

    Uncle roy is sitting next to sir alex at fulham vs
    Norwich
    Scouting dembele I think…..

  123. Zibbie says:

    Well a nice day in the UK football on mid afternoon on a Saturday ,

  124. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Haha. Got this one spot on…..

    VanPersie picks #20 because it’s a good omen.
    “20th league title for Manchester United…that’s the main reason I took 20.” #RvP20o20

    http://www.sport360.com/article/2020-van-persie-reveals-reason-behind-man-utd-shirt-choice

    Err, and afternoon lads. Love kicking off the EPL. Wish we didn’t have to wait until Monday :(

  125. Zibbie says:

    Nice read Fletch, A long 2 fucking dayyyyysssssss……………….

  126. ARUN says:

    is SIR ALEX REALY AT THE FULHAM GAME

  127. CedarsDevil says:

    Afternoon all

    Well this is cunting fucking bollocks, PLTV, i.e. the channel that airs the live games from the PL is down. I have been told that it will be back by Monday afternoon. No football for me this weekend then!

  128. CedarsDevil says:

    To make things worse the sheep shaggers won……..My weekend is ruined

  129. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    This is murder!

  130. Robbo says:

    Stunning goal by Gera for WBA v the scum.

  131. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Gera!!!!!!!!

  132. CedarsDevil says:

    Excellent start for the dippers so far then.

  133. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha, the dippers already trailing, ha fack me
    Their only scape from the hostage is if they opt for a way downwards

  134. Robbo says:

    Song not even on bench for LeArse! Apparently ‘injured’.

    More like packing his bags for Spain.

  135. denton davey says:

    Zibbie @ 14:20: “If some new drug could get Fletch on the field at 95% of old self just might trump the signings!!!”

    True that.

  136. Robbo says:

    Dippers look like same shit, different thrower.

    Commentator said “they are trying to play the Swansea way” . How low have they gone,

  137. CedarsDevil says:

    Got a text this morning from my Liverpool loving nephew who now lives in Sheffield…

    It read ‘Watch out we’re gunning for the title’

    My reply ‘ Fuck off’ to which he pissed him self

    Then he text me asking me about our attack

    I replied ‘Well we have RvP, Kagawa and Rooney while you have Henderson, Downing and Carroll’

    Hahahaha

  138. iced earth says:

    hello everyone
    maybe sir alex is scouting Moussa Dembele
    according to reports Fulham have rejected a bid from Manchester United in the region of just £5 million

  139. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Robbo – Songs off to Barca.

  140. united.george says:

    Maybe sir alex is watching fulham since we play them next weekend?

  141. ARUN says:

    @iced earth
    it must be that or some other business
    dnt hink he is there to watch fulham eventhough we play them next week.FULHAM ARE NOT BARCELONA.

  142. Zibbie says:

    Hello lads!

  143. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha looks like the rat eaters are having a good start

  144. Robbo says:

    Agger off, red!

    Penalty for WBA.

    Long misses. saved. weak as piss.

  145. JC says:

    Bye bye YNWAgger, dumb penalty/straight red given up there, couldn’t happen to a better team. Terrible penalty though by Long.

  146. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Agger sent off. West brom miss a penalty.

  147. Cantona7 says:

    Yeah Journo is a red, he went to school and played footballl with Scholes

  148. Redbilly says:

    The scouse lose . Fantastic start

  149. Robbo says:

    Another penalty for WBA.

    Omiwinge scores. 2 – 0

  150. CedarsDevil says:

    My Dick

    Hello! Now we have My Dick, Ass and My Pussy posting here………Funny as fuck

  151. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    West brom 2 up lol.

  152. JC says:

    Wow, here comes another try. 2nd pen on Liverpoo, funny as shit there. Odemwingie puts the ball through this time, scouse looking like the lower table team they are.

  153. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha playing the Swansea why

  154. Robbo says:

    Willie

    I gathered as much. But was amused by Arse Wanker’s “injured’ comment.

  155. Zibbie says:

    Tree :mrgreen:

  156. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Way

  157. Hans says:

    Well done Swansea. QPR scum should not be in this league in the first place!

    New era for dippers appears to be ending before it even started.

  158. Robbo says:

    Foster just dropped the ball on Looser SewerRat’s foot but he skied it over the bar from 2 yards, this is comical. Better check I’m not watching the Comedy channel on Fox.

  159. thedonmassawe says:

    Fabio is getting lit up

  160. jeet says:

    Heartwarming stuff this…

  161. Robbo says:

    Morrison just skied a 1 on 1 from 10 yards out over the bar into row z. Should have been 3.

  162. JC says:

    Agree with you Robbo, double check as I think I see Joe Cole pretending he’s a footballer…

  163. CedarsDevil says:

    Educate me here, why are QPR scum?

  164. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Bad day for Park and Fabio. :sad:

  165. Robbo says:

    Lukaku scores another. 3 – 0.

  166. 3 lions says:

    i reckon they’re scum for lying down when they knew they were safe on last day of season

  167. JC says:

    There we go, finally Lukaku makes it 3-0, the new Poo seems much like the old though without the comedy relief of KKK frothing around on the line.

  168. Joffrey Barathron says:

    Liverpool picking up where they left off last season. I love them! They make the premiership more enjoyable!

  169. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    3 0 West Brom lol. Phil Thompson’s face is a peach! :)

  170. Redbilly says:

    Liverp30l. The gift that keeps on giving .

  171. 911_DEVIL says:

    The dippers getting the batting of there lives 3-0 down to west brom :D

  172. Robbo says:

    Lukaku by himself 3 yards out on back post, keeper and 2 defenders playing with their dicks on the line. How fucking funny is this. Brenda looking sick.
    Another easy miss by SewerRat, my sides are splitting, please no more!!!!!!

  173. CedarsDevil says:

    Any other club would have done the same thing, no reason to call them scum. The word scum is reserved for only one club that deserve that title

  174. thedonmassawe says:

    Is there a sadder sight than Rob Green picking a ball out of the net?

  175. Robbo says:

    Just heard SteveMe’s name, didnt realize he was playing.

  176. 911_DEVIL says:

    WTF is going on with this team
    Attack, midfield, defence crappy

  177. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Redbilly

    Always bring a smile to my face. It’s their year!

  178. Robbo says:

    Fulham 5 Norwich 0.

  179. Hans says:

    @CedarsDevil
    They are scum because last day of last season deep in injury time they simply let Shitty score two goals.

  180. jeet says:

    Willie, sorry if I’m bugging u mate, still stuck on phone and no tv, what’s with park and fabio?

  181. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Just think lads? It could always be worse….
    :lol:

  182. Tapmasterfunk says:

    A dint know Leeds have El hag douf,fitting player for scum,the dirty spiting horrible cunt that he is

  183. 3 lions says:

    they are scum for that. 2 more smelly clubs deserve that title, and one of them are getting mauled atm tee hee

  184. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Jeet – Park and Fabio started the game for QPR. They’re 5 0 down. Not good.

  185. 911_DEVIL says:

    What the hell is this donkey £35m dick was trying to do there? :P

  186. Costas says:

    Well, you take your foot off the gas in a title decider and you develop a loser mentality for good.

    Nice one Swansea. :D

  187. 911_DEVIL says:

    Is suarez smiling?

  188. Robbo says:

    Stealth United grab a point v LeArse. 0 – 0

  189. CedarsDevil says:

    Hans

    Still no reason to call them scum pal. Any other team would have done the same thing

  190. Vishal S says:

    Swansea showing
    QPR that a team must be built and not bought!!

  191. Robbo says:

    911

    cant tell, all I see is teeth.

  192. Zibbie says:

    hahaha pool 3-0 losers
    0-0 RvPless gunners, hehe O’Neil can coach.

  193. Tapmasterfunk says:

    We all hate Leeds

  194. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Gooners missing Robin Van rifle Cedars already…. :neutral:

  195. CedarsDevil says:

    Robin Van rifle Cedars! Ha ha love it

  196. Zibbie says:

    Zoltan Gera, wasn’t he the guy in the fortune game in Big?

  197. Utd4life says:

    I gotta agree with Odgen on one thing. Yaya Toure is City’s lynchpin. I would gladly have him at UTD. The guy is built like a bull, excellent in posession and scores goals. If he gets injured then City are well and truly fucked.
    In other news, some of the results in today’s have been quite shocking except for L’pool one.

  198. CedarsDevil says:

    Leeds?? Can folk please please stop spelling it with a capital L its leeds

  199. Tapmasterfunk says:

    As asked my father wot should I be,should i be united,should I be Leeds,here’s what he said to me…… Wash mouth out son go get ya dads gun an shoot all the Leeds scum……

  200. Zibbie says:

    The Rifle Man with Robin Van Precise

    You guys know of the 60′s TV show The Rifle Man?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4phDCXCfg&feature=related

  201. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha my mistake cedars

  202. Butters says:

    More brilliance from the Hawthornes this afternoon, the mighty Joe Cole came on and only lasted 4 minutes before going off injured!

  203. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha Joe cole, should of stayed in France

  204. Robbo says:

    Zibbie

    Rifleman, bang bang bang bang. remember it well. Actually just remember the begining.

  205. Redbilly says:

    50 shades- ha, the scouse are just joking around today . Next game the return of scouse dominance begins.

    Thanks pool, you’ve made my weekend. Great start to the season

  206. Hans says:

    Nothing against Norwich, but would not mind if current bottom three were the same bottom three come next May!!!

  207. Zibbie says:

    The transfer window when Real come a calling, or PSG, Shity and Chel$ki types.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZgwtpPmLY

  208. Zibbie says:

    A cowboy widower raising Mark

  209. Zibbie says:

    Willie with his shades on, he wants your women. Just on of 50.

  210. Robbo says:

    Redbilly

    I think the dippers got the bitters next at Wankfield. Hope they both lose and kick shit out of each other.

  211. CedarsDevil says:

    Tapmasterfunk

    Out of curiosity are you from Portugal?

  212. TonyBee says:

    come on you leeds ….hooray …upsetting Cedars…. :lol:

  213. TonyBee says:

    yes Children …. I’m back SO no being naughty….or posting under many names…..YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE…..

  214. Zibbie says:

    oopps 3 shades of 23 :cool:

  215. CedarsDevil says:

    Mr Bee

    You fucking old fart……..Gut feeling tells me the freak is using a new name

  216. Zibbie says:

    Watson father to Cedars, Yoda to all….

  217. TonyBee says:

    YEAH I KNOW …SPOTTED THE WANKER EARLIER…..oops caps…..

  218. Robbo says:

    Cedars

    Well spotted!

  219. TonyBee says:

    Daft cunt was even having a conversation with him/herself…..

  220. Zibbie says:

    Entrapment master?

  221. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Zibbie – Nice one. 8) Jack Nicholson was a cool cat back in the day!

  222. TonyBee says:

    yoda???….i aint that good looking…. Zibbie ….you fucker you… :lol:

  223. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha no mate,all tho 911 is… If that’s what ya getting at,an plus as if that skitz split mind stalker could have a name like tapmasterfunk,….. Plus am a Yorkshire red,that lives in London,as long as that’s ok by you 

  224. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Toon, spuds will surely have goals? High scoring draw, methinks.

  225. Robbo says:

    No Fryers for Spuds. Anyone know if he is gone or still with us.

  226. CedarsDevil says:

    How did you know we were referring to 911? Dear God you are so fucking daft its a joke, you keep outing yourself its a joke!

  227. TonyBee says:

    went to a Star Wars themed fancy dress party once and ended up fucking this bird that was dressed up like Yoda.

    As I was putting my cock away I said,” I really like your costume? ”

    She said, ” What costume?”

    oooooohhhhhhhhggggggghhhhhh

  228. Zibbie says:

    OK once you go green, you never go earth bound again.

  229. TonyBee says:

    Sigh Cedars…not too bright that one….the force is not with this one……..

  230. TonyBee says:

    actually Zibs….quite like the Yoda tag….might post with it next year…..

  231. Robbo says:

    Good to see Rowan Atkinson refereeing the Toon v Spuds, means we dont get him.

  232. Zibbie says:

    oooohhhh, baby nice blow job. I can understand the harry knuckles and what some might say is an Adams apple. But whats that in your pants? It popped up half way into the blow job? I prefer green pussy. Just saying.

  233. CedarsDevil says:

    Mr Bee

    He is so fucking daft that it actually makes me smile! Fucking thick as a hard shit

  234. Zibbie says:

    OK in the bar seen 1st movie then became #IV , I was next to the snorkel head freak. Big Red and proud. The wart looking things were space herpes. FROM SOME GREEN BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

  235. Zibbie says:

    I was a Junior in High School when I saw Star Was in the Theaters , I still remember walking into the late show with my date and boyz, people coming out just on a high, flying saying we were in for magic. And we were.

  236. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Errrr ceders ya need to get out more pall, a do fucking read mate…an a took the portugal shit as that’s who you thought I was,so are you the fucking person who runs this site…just becoues you think am some skits cunt that means I am,Judge an jury ye

  237. Robbo says:

    A Portugese Yorkshireman living in London who thinks he is a woman?!!?? And I thought Star Wars was weird.

  238. CedarsDevil says:

    Tapmasterfunk

    Was only yesterday that I promised my self that I would ignore you. But come ON get a life already. This is like the 7th username you have used here

  239. Zibbie says:

    Just a western set in space.

  240. CedarsDevil says:

    Robbo

    Epic!

  241. Robbo says:

    Tapmasterfunk

    If you are from Yorkshire do you like sheep?

  242. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Wot the fuck,hahaha a don’t even know how to prove that am not who ya think I am,what’s really sad is eny body thats new posts on here is the same person,get fucking life… You think 911 has problems,paranoid as fuck

  243. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Robbo,all day av some Velcro pants an gloves in Ma closest,Ma first game was 1987 with Ma dad,av stamped on more leeds Bradford an burnly skulls then ya can imagine, what the fuck is this,ya call ya sen united ,nowt but a set of Internet bullying cunts

  244. CedarsDevil says:

    Tapmasterfunk / 911 / Sara / Reds galore/ Sachu

    You do realize that you are infesting this site? Pity really, many have left because of sick freaks like you

  245. Robbo says:

    Tapmaster

    why have you started writing with an accent all of a sudden?

  246. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Cedars.. A swear to god am not that person

  247. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Robbo,keighley fuck you

  248. CedarsDevil says:

    I am stopping the bickering as I know it pisses off folk on here. But I cannot shut my gob when I see something wrong.

    Tapmasterfunk

    Do not ever dare use the words fuck you and Robbo in the same sentence even if you are addressing a poster

  249. CedarsDevil says:

    I am stopping the bickering as I know it pisses off folk on here. But I cannot shut my gob when I see something wrong.

    Tapmasterfunk

    Do not ever dare use the words fuck you and Robbo in the same sentence even if you are addressing a poster

  250. sandeep1878 says:

    Evening REDS around the world..

    Sub: Hargreves, ROFL :lol:

    by the way, what the fuck happened to Swansea and Fulham, looks like they have scored for the whole month :)

    Felt sad for Fabio, but still early days!!

  251. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Ha so cedars you can give me shit for something I av never been apart of,then you get on ya fucking high horse,no mate it don’t fucking work like that you started it

  252. Tapmasterfunk says:

    An I will apoligise for saying his name in that way. I bow Ma head

  253. Robbo says:

    Dont know how I got sucked into that. Sorry folk.

    Is it Monday yet?

    Sandeep

    I thought QPR were woefull through the centre of MF and defence. Maybe one of the 5 goals came from the left side so Fabio couldnt be blamed . I did only see the goal highlights.

  254. sandeep1878 says:

    heard Fletch started for reserves!!!

    what a fucking great news :)

    still long way to go but i m on top of the world :)

  255. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Haha robbo you know keighley eh

  256. sandeep1878 says:

    Robbo,

    I aint blaming Fabio mate,

    just feeling sad for the lad…

  257. Robbo says:

    No idea what, who or where is keighley.

  258. sandeep1878 says:

    Heard Barca have out 80 Million release clause on Song,

    holy shit, who is the joke, Barca or Song? :P

  259. Robbo says:

    Sandeep

    Didnt mean it to sound like you were. I was also feeling for him. Just saying he shouldnt get to much blame for the goals from any ABU’s, but of course he will. Should make him a stronger character for when he comes back.

  260. CedarsDevil says:

    I am running out of here faster than a mouse being chased by a cat. Place has become too wired

  261. sandeep1878 says:

    Robbo,

    agreed pal, the stats in defense are most of the times a result of performance as an unit..

    Can;t blame Fabio if QPR has fuck all defense..true that..

  262. CedarsDevil says:

    Wired? Meant to say weird

  263. Robbo says:

    Alan Pardew what a tosser. Just got sent off for pushing the 4th official.

  264. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Robbo.. But you know my accent,nowt owt,an as for the sheep shaging,your aving a go from where I come from.not a team fucking half wit cunt,Yorkshire biggest county in England,I hate leeds but I love where I was born. So keep your fucking sheep shaging to non united fans ye

  265. sandeep1878 says:

    Cedars,

    chao pal, come back later..

  266. Tapmasterfunk says:

    An cedars.the only reson am trying to prove Ma self an not giving you abuse is because you hold a lot of say here,a just think it’s pretty fucked up a new poster gets bummed because of some other guy,an as if my posts are eny way the same

  267. Robbo says:

    Tapmaster

    I am an Aussie born in Croatia living in Adelaide South Australia, been to Manchester once and London in 1984. Got no idea what your accent sounds like apart from watching Monty Python skits.

  268. 911_DEVIL says:

    Wow! :D

  269. sandeep1878 says:

    And i hope we will sell Berba at the earliest,

    I can understand Danny and Chico sitting on the bench because their time will come..

    but with Berbatov in the team, its not going to be good for either parties..

  270. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Sandeep, If you’re reading this, check your mail you idiot!

  271. Robbo says:

    ! – 1 at St James or what ever they call it now.

    Penalty for the Toon. Ben Arfa to take it, scored. 2 – 1 to the toon

  272. Robbo says:

    Sandeep

    re Berba I am a little bit selfish on that. I hope he stays, couldnt stand anybody having the pleasure to watch that magic.

  273. Eric keane says:

    Great to have football back.. Finally..
    How bad were pool today? They’ve gone backwards..
    Excellent finishe by demba ba..
    Cant wait for monday.. Hope we thrash them scousers..

  274. Tapmasterfunk says:

    so why say that about Ma accent,an why the fuck av been attaked,a don’t do long post because a carnt spell,moved to London becoues Ma little girl is very ill,an why the fuck to I have to prove Im some one,av been a red for 29 years,my dad is red now for 60 years.av been all over the fucking world with united,

  275. 911_DEVIL says:

    Someone is clearly trying to get everyone banned
    Not to mention, ending up ruining the blog
    Why is it?
    I’m sure the folks who aren’t active at the moment are but not due to the bollox, why can’t one post away and ignored the posts of whom he does not like? Its clear that except this assumptions, no one else is using multiple usernames
    We here for one single reason, why would someone use multiple monikers, and if so, aslong as he or she does not intervene with the function of the blog, I should say it fine, but that does not mean I ever suspected one person of doing so….

    I’m once the team kick start their season the blog will be buzzing again..
    Cheers!!!
    19

  276. Zibbie says:

    Hello Indian men!

  277. Capitano says:

    Breaking:Wenger want to sign the little boy in Rvp, but he has to explain why he told Rvp to go to United.

  278. Robbo says:

    4.00am here, my balls are hanging out…thats my eyeballs hanging out of my head.
    Like EricKeane said, it’s good to have football back.

    Got to get a couple of hours sleep. RVP did sign? wasnt a dream was it?

  279. Tapmasterfunk says:

    eny way…. How much time do ya reckon clev wil get now,looks to me SAF is going the barca way,

  280. TonyBee says:

    yeah i hope its buzzin as well ….. but without you …

  281. Tapmasterfunk says:

    911..a feel sorry for u pall ,a fucking post an get attacked for be being you,wot makes me laugh is they act like this is there fucking blog,freedom of speech, fucking stupid cunts

  282. sandeep1878 says:

    Hello Zibster,

    How ya?

    ##

    Robbo,

    Its a sad episode on Berba pal,

    ##

    Balaji,

    Checking it right away pal..

  283. 911_DEVIL says:

    Why not

    Why do you attack everyone that shows up?

  284. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Wow you are fucking weird,cedars thought a was you,do you understand that they don’t like you,so because of you they don’t like me,are you getting this

  285. Zibbie says:

    1878 Monday seem miles away!

  286. TonyBee says:

    Whoa Tapmasterfuck……. Freedom of speech means you post whatever you want doesn’t it…….well I think the poster who uses the alias 911 is a complete cunt….and have said so on here …. most ignore him but he posts as others as well…actually talking to himself using differing usernames and that is just plain sad…

    You say some posters act on here that they own the site and that’s not true …just that some that have been posting on here for years and recognise idiots when they post….

    some may well call me an idiot and they could well be right and for them to call me a cunt is up to them….but as you state freedom of speech means I get to call them a cunt right back..

  287. Zibbie says:

    Just us I see 1878.

  288. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Tonybee..can you plz help me out,for some reason am fucking 911,a read an to be honest,the stuff ya come put with about 911 is class,look am a massive cunt,but am not him

  289. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Tonybee..can you plz help me out,for some reason am fucking 911,a read an to be honest,the stuff ya come put with about 911 is class,look am a massive cunt,but am not him

  290. Zibbie says:

    Sounds like a Bud Bundy name.

  291. 911_DEVIL says:

    @tapmasterfunk
    I give hem the benefit of the doubtzn they have been posting on here for years
    I used to love reading this blog, and I still do
    Its a fantastic blog
    It might not be their blog, but there voices are welcomed due to their loyalty and unmatched contribution they put on everyday
    I understand their anger, they have created friendships on here, made friends
    And I think those friend who currently do not show up, are either taking a break or just not enjoying silly season, like many have expressed here.
    ……..

    But what matters is the club, I think its what we all here for
    Sorry for going off topic again
    19

  292. TonyBee says:

    Whats up Zibster…feeling lonely…..

  293. TonyBee says:

    tappie old lad ….911 has been outed on here as a multiposter….

    usually he just gets ignored but he is like genital warts….he keeps coming back….

    if you aint him don’t pick fights…just keep posting as you

  294. Zibbie says:

    Ye so odd no one here but me and you?

  295. Zibbie says:

    Richard Wart III

  296. Zibbie says:

    Pussy Phungus.

  297. Zibbie says:

    Hello I’m Phun Gus, here to spread my charms.

  298. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Like Twin Peaks on here? :shock:

  299. 911_DEVIL says:

    You know what tony
    Through ignoring me won’t do pal
    Cause after all I don’t come here for you or anyone
    I’m sure you already no why
    Not for tits, or ship shagging…. Understand!

    And I’ll never call you names, that’s as far as I can go…

  300. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Tonybee…. A mad a massive fuck up buy trying to get in,it’s sad but it’s true,av read a lot for a year but amat hone now duet little girl,weird thing is ya carnt shut me up face to face,but because a carnt spell a find hard,am a chav before the word chav got famous,Ma red dad did time for fighting for united,in fact 6 years over 20,a just hate the fact ppl undermine me,….ps big words iPhone spell checker hehe

  301. Zibbie says:

    I have a guess, Col Mustard in the Kitchen with his 16 inch cock.

  302. TonyBee says:

    PUSSY FUNGUS,,,,UGH… think i went a out with bird who had that once…..

  303. TonyBee says:

    tappie who gives a fuck ..we can read what you right…so don’t worry …if i didn t have spell check on the computer i would be fucked’n'all

  304. Zibbie says:

    Nap time.

  305. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Tonybee,where from

  306. Zibbie says:

    I spell so bad some times my spell check can’t help.

  307. TonyBee says:

    Devil310 …. that’s an even bigger target for his man jizz

  308. TonyBee says:

    cheltenham in the cotswolds

  309. Eric keane says:

    Hey zibbie!

    Tapmasterfuck. 911. Sara.
    A transgender with a need for attention greater than paris hilton. Sad. Why not go and wallow on a scouse blog? They are dumb and unemployed, might give you what you need

  310. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Zibbie..amen to that brother haha,it’s wot a get from no school an video games,ha a wasn’t even allowed to take Ma gcse,still am fucking good on xbox,in fact am a fucking genius,oh an am good car mechanic to,who needs school eh lol

  311. 911_DEVIL says:

    Wow! Xenophobic
    This is getting nasty, it just goes to show who the really S Y or Z

  312. Devil310 says:

    @Pippo InZibbie – how are you mate? Yeah, he most be dehydrated by now. The picture ain’t helping either

  313. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Cotswalds,that’s some places to live,am from shot hole called keighley in yorkshire,now live 5 mins from kings cross,close to great oldman street for mw little girl,no more coin for OT

  314. TonyBee says:

    tappie….. me… slaughterman in an abbatoir….. no gsce either….we had cse’s got some of them and a few ‘o’ levels….

  315. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Eric keane cedars… Do me favour pall..shut the fuck up..

  316. TonyBee says:

    you are wrong there Tappie…two different posters for sure….

  317. 911_DEVIL says:

    Oh, I feel guilty of ruining the party and that’s something I won’t be able to live with
    I wish I never got involved
    But now that I’m involved I can’t think of leaving

    Why in first place?
    Its because of you MAN UTD
    All because of you that I crossed with unusual people of some different world
    Because of you man utd that I crossed with this blog
    Just because of you, I still fight teeth and nails to keep this belief and love, and that no one will ever take it away
    Even the greater sir alex won’t, so why bother….

  318. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Ha Tonybee,you nearly have my nick name spot on with tappie,I assume by that you av herd that,but it’s tappy short,or owt for nowt O’connor haha,….on topic how much time do ya reckon clevs will get now..an also Match of the day,best thing ever

  319. 911_DEVIL says:

    :P

  320. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Tonybee,a got attackd for being,911.av a look at wot Eric just post,am not fucking 911.ceders started it an E.K got in there too av done fuck all wrong

  321. Red Robin says:

    Oh man.

    Its really obvious that Sara & 911_DEVIL are the same person from the way he/she write the posts. Now, this tapwater even though he is trying to write his posts in some accent, he’s obviously the same person also. Get real will you? Your posts are being read by many people around the world. You can hide behind your computer, but get real! Use one moniker will you?

  322. Sara says:

    Now now lads this is getting a tad out of proportions.Been personally fighting my corner and since i promised to prove my worth on here,i dont know how i can prove my authenticity.
    Cedars,jeet,willie,Giggs,Costas or Sandy or anyone else how do i discern myelf from imposters?Any level headed person can tell the difference in the posts.
    Im tired of being embellished as 911.

  323. sandeep1878 says:

    Zibster,

    yeah seems miles away..

    I fear TonyBee’s ID is stolen again!!

    It cant be him posting like that..very unusual..

    ###

    50 Shades,

    wasup pal..

  324. 911_DEVIL says:

    Haha everyone running away from being me

    Am I a monster or anything, just take it with a pinch of salt dear sara

  325. TonyBee says:

    and it goes on and on and on and on

  326. TonyBee says:

    fuck off Sandy you daft sod….just joining in winding up the winders uppers thats all

  327. TonyBee says:

    sandy you got Cedars e-mail ….just ask him ….he has mine…..

  328. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Redroboin,who the fuck am posting the same fucking way…not even close you stupid fucking tard..how’s about all of u haters coming an fucking meeting me an al show you what’s wot,you lot are the fucking trolls..I would fucking tear u apart,all a wonted is talk to some reds,….Str a fuckinh hope your seeing this,new posters not alowed…

  329. TonyBee says:

    Sara …then let us know a bit more about you then…..

  330. Red Robin says:

    Just use one moniker.

    If no one reply on ur comment then that’s fine.

    You don’t need to create another moniker to reply to your previous posts, that’s weird.

  331. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    :lol:

    How is it possible to write in an accent?

    Its like a bloke with an indian accent(In english) writing…

    “Bud Sirs I beenz supportingz Manchista Unitingz forz 65 yarzes bud you accusingz me of beingz 911′ses for da 100 timingz”.

    8) Apologies to the Indian hot spices here ;)

  332. Sara says:

    STR
    Sort it out please. It hurts when i cant talk to anyone on here coz they think im fake.
    I admitted recently i’ve been wrong in trading insults with fellow reds and apologised.What else do i need to do?I know some will say fuck off but im no quitter.Be fair lads i havent killed anyone.

  333. TonyBee says:

    clint …..can i have onion bhajees with that…..

  334. Tapmasterfunk says:

    TonyBee.only one to fucking bee right..see wot did there..what makes me laff is av been to O.T more than most on here.but a guess that’s not wot your looking for.plastic ye

  335. TonyBee says:

    More information about yourself Sara please…not personal stuff…just age , gender . location…etc

  336. Red Robin says:

    Papii

    LOL :D

    You see tapwater posts. He use some weeird english that he called it yorkeshire accent. Well, I’m not an English and never been go UK so I follow him to call it accent (in writing) haha!

  337. Red Robin says:

    *weird
    *never been to

  338. TonyBee says:

    no TAPPIE I’m always wrong….

  339. 911_DEVIL says:

    Clint you funny fuck
    You should be a comedian or something

    How about me writing in a portuguese accent? Let me tell u, that’s impossible

  340. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    TonyBee – Lets throw some Tandoori’s on the Barbie :lol:

    Red Robin -
    Do you think the french also write in a french accent ? Or The Chinese :P

    Not even a rat munching, cardboard box living scummy scouser would degrade himself to the level of “eeerrrrm thai-ping eeen Khlivapudlian errrrmmm ”

    ;) Did anyone get that?

  341. 911_DEVIL says:

    Yorkshire accent
    Iet me tell ya’ll, that’s I phones spell check accent :P :D yorkshire accent

    Weird

  342. TonyBee says:

    nearly crying here….with fucking laughter…dear oh dear oh dear…..

    Scot the nasty men keep calling me a cunt….sort it out Scot….boo hoo ….BOO HOO….

    How about a simple test ….for STR just to check the ISP addresses for all and sundry.and ban any fucker that multiple posts…….will sort it all out then………

  343. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Robin.you sound like tit pall.a spell as a sound.an who the fuck are u to give lectures on my fucking words.don’t you live in fucking limey prison.an why the fuck are stii attacking me

  344. TonyBee says:

    clint…i am typing in Liverpudlian I am……am i close dere lah…. llol:

  345. Sara says:

    Im sure you dont know everyones age on here nor you dont keep their records in order to interact with them.You come along as a very funny poster whom i enjoy reading whatever you have to post.Your attacks on me have however left me with a low self esteem.Yeah u said no personal stuff yet you still ask me about my personal issues?I find that insulting.I am who i am and i can always prove myself.Scott has got all the info of anyone who posts on here.He has got my email address and if you truly want to give it a litmus test,ask him to send me a new user name coz im not willing to change from Sara till you guys wipe the slate clean.

  346. Red Robin says:

    Papii

    Do you have cheese naan with mutton curry there? My fav Indian food here in Singapore.

    That’s why mate. I don’t understand why tapwater write in accent. :D :D

  347. TonyBee says:

    cunting smilies …hard to type when you’re laughing like fuck….

  348. 911_DEVIL says:

    That would do tonybee

    But still waiting for sara to give us her insights
    We tired of this mushy, bollox
    Let me tell ya, there’s no such thing…

  349. Tapmasterfunk says:

    911 shut up.this arguments between grown ups..it’s your fucking fault am in this fucking mess

  350. 911_DEVIL says:

    @sara I respect your views

  351. 911_DEVIL says:

    What did I do pal?

  352. Sara says:

    If anyone is simply hating me because of my moniker then to each their own.I’ve done enough to justify myself on here and would willingly give my email address to designated posters to be issued with a new caption of my posts.

  353. 911_DEVIL says:

    I just find it soo weird to write in an accent

    Its not a piss take tap, sorry

  354. Zibbie says:

    Well I’m 19 in University , I like Phish , doing acid and fucking 2 boyz at once. I’m from a small farming town no one ever heard of. Thats the name No One Ever Heard Of, 136 people in mid America. I’m a Wicken a practicing devil worshiper. Have a Shitzu named Roscoe. I have 12 piercings and 6 tattoos , and a bacon strip.

  355. Red Robin says:

    TonyBee

    Str can check the isp and ban those cloning monikers.

    Its 4am here in sg, I was trying to get some footy chats, but end up with this kind of chats. But hillarious though. :D

  356. 911_DEVIL says:

    Not my fault pal
    This bollocks are neither yours or my fault

    If they think I’m you and you me, then both you and me’s fault.

  357. TonyBee says:

    Actually Sara……. it was a chance for you to break the ice…and I did not ask for any personal stuff…. I made that quite clear…….but you are using a female name as a username and if that is the case why not answer a question of male/female gender . why so secretive?
    Personally i know most peoples ages on here as they all eventually let it be known
    I have never attacked you personally if i did Scot would probably ban me as i am very blunt…..
    As for Scot sending you a new username…..simply type one in the username band and it will be posted after moderation…..

    and if i have hurt your feelings or lowered your self esteem …too bad,,,, as i don’t know you or anything about you ……you are anonymous to me …so basically….hard fucking luck

  358. Sara says:

    Red Robin
    Bang on point.The ISP address is the best way to separate the wheat from the chuff.Im all for it if only to sort out this madness.

  359. TonyBee says:

    Zibbie…you mad mad cunt…funniest post today…

  360. Tapmasterfunk says:

    what’s really fucking erking me,is that ppl think ad lie about the shit av said,I live in London because my little girl who is 4 years old has cerebral palsy,an blind,I moved from yorkshire to London.an I hate it here a give up Ma job at kwikfit..a know but I have no friends here,a thought a could get some though here,being reds an all.but a was wrong

  361. Tapmasterfunk says:

    what’s really fucking erking me,is that ppl think ad lie about the shit av said,I live in London because my little girl who is 4 years old has cerebral palsy,an blind,I moved from yorkshire to London.an I hate it here a give up Ma job at kwikfit..a know but I have no friends here,a thought a could get some though here,being reds an all.but a was wrong

  362. Red Robin says:

    Ok, let’s just leave 911, Sara and Tapwater to decide which moniker is he/she going to use. Hope for some conclusion soon!

  363. TonyBee says:

    Bacon strip…….. hahahahahahahahahahahah hope Cedars get to see that one will piss himself…..if he aint still wanking over Devil310;s RVP poster…….

  364. 911_DEVIL says:

    That’s sad tap
    I wish for a fast recovery to your little
    Girl
    My thoughts are with her. Now that’s not funny
    God bless
    19

  365. Sara says:

    Im running out of steam trying to find an amicable solution.Not that im tough on the internet all i can do is just post what pleases me and avoid stepping on people’s toes.Of course i will call a spade a spade and never a big spoon but invariably in a way that will not be argumentative leading to abuse.
    Tonybee-still got much respect for you coz you make everyone who is anyone in this blog chuckle including me.Just calling for a truce.Please let me post on here coz im not one to insult.Watch this space……

  366. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Wasn’t there a guy called tappy who claimed to have a little girl with cerebral palsy? Are you the same person?

  367. TonyBee says:

    look Tappie ….stop feeling sorry for yourself …we are still here aint we…alright…. ripping the piss but we are still here….

    SERIOUS NOTE..

    sorry about you little one …one subject in here that is sacrosanct….. family

  368. Zibbie says:

    310 cracks me up as well, funny fuckers here, Tony you can hurt me at times. :mrgreen:

  369. TonyBee says:

    WELL REMEMBERED WILLIE

  370. TonyBee says:

    shall i be gentle from now on Zibs…..

  371. Tapmasterfunk says:

    You give me a chace Robin.you fucking scum basterd al fucking end you…my name is James O’connor.my little girl is called summer O’connor she was fine up until a week before birth, she got stressd an when she was born she started fitting,2 fucking weeks she couldn’t breath on her own,so fuck you all.

  372. Sara says:

    Low life Pardew making a muppet of himself was just hilarious.A top five finish and he thinks that gives him the licence to shove fourth officials?Cringeworthy

  373. 911_DEVIL says:

    Re robin
    So you want us to change our monikers?
    No, that aren’t going to happen pal
    If there was anything to prove, then we’ve done fuck all
    Its just delusion, anyone with level headed can see that we are totally different
    One speaks Portuguese
    Another living in Yorkshire due to medical causes for him girl
    And then sara, who imo is a humble and quite educated manc… I enjoy her/ posts, some I even consult a dictionary for

  374. Eric keane says:

    So one guy types in ridiculous english, the transgender in perfect english, and 911 copies and pastes other peoples phrases. Thats crafty.
    Tappy. Tap out. Your games up

  375. Eric keane says:

    So now suddenly tappy types in lerfect english..

  376. Sara says:

    Having said that,the creme de la creme was Pisspool against West Brom.Daniel ‘my ambition is to play for Barca’ Agger getting his matching orders and Skrtel conceding a penalty was more than i had bargained for.Steve Clarke got one over them.He clearly was on a vengeance aka pay back time for his dismissal from Anfailed.
    Common Wigan!

  377. WeAreUnited says:

    It’s been a crazy month. been in fpr holidays and I heard yesterday about Robin Van Persie signing,

    wow don’t know what to say, first I wasn’t too happy, but then realised that we are starting to become very strong and the I started to be very happy :) ))

    Hope it turns good!!!!!!!

  378. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Ye 5o shades,sorry was pissed mate,a have so much to get off Ma chest,an know one to throw it at,united is all av got on the outside world,it was there before an it will be there after

  379. sandeep1878 says:

    TonyBee and Papii,

    will you fuckers stop before the Indian commandos start shooting at your asses ;)

    enough of the accent shit, i m laughing like anything here :P

    old habits die hard you see, so give us the Indians some time before we trash that accent and the mockery :lol:

  380. Sara says:

    Eric Keane
    Im no 911,neither im i tappy so n so.Please email scott and enquire about this.It has to be nipped in the bud before my name gets in tatters.Dont alienate me by drawing comparisons with other posters on here.

  381. Tapmasterfunk says:

    You sound like you want me to be 911,only person to not let it go,mmmmmm Eric kean>>> 911. Makes sence

  382. Sara says:

    Giroud was another joker.Missing a sitter that our very own Bebe(no hard feelings)would have had zero trouble passing it in the net.Have to agree Carzola is quite a player.Decent but no where near a world beater.He will have to tame Shawcross and co before this accolades are extoled upon him.

  383. sandeep1878 says:

    Fuck me,

    this place has gone mental..

    good night red..

  384. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Eny way fuckers..match of day is on…but am soo fucking glad my fellow united fans are about..Tonybee yal do me.Motd ye

  385. Zibbie says:

    Football, wow what a summer. Powell, Kagawa, RVP and Angelo. A young one Sean Goss as well.

    Rooney, RVP and Kagawa to run rampant in the PL!!!

  386. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    five hours of complete dross on the day the new season starts and people say this blog is not being polluted? Fuck me its painful reading and quite frankly embarrassing.

  387. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    :lol:

    Everybody stop commenting on ROM, I wanna see the interesting debate Sara/Tappy/911 strike up.

    ;)

  388. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Giggs12 – True that pal. Any wonder some of the older heads are turned off this place now? Thank God the season gets going for us on Monday!

  389. 3 lions says:

    this blog is absolute madness haha

  390. Rai says:

    TonyBee – 21:06

    Same thing was asked about the addresses last year pal and fuck all was done about it. Piss take. Too busy sharing fart stories on Twatter.

  391. Tapmasterfunk says:

    911 do you know what..Motd is

  392. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Hansen just said Skirtel and Agger were the best center backs in the league last year??????

    Nothing like blind loyalty is he fucking kidding me? Did he not see Kompany for starts and then our Rio who was a rock for us.

    I fucking hate MOTD these ABU bastards, fucking Shearer and them scouse cunts Hansen and Lawrenson.

    I am fucking fuming

  393. Tapmasterfunk says:

    Where you live 911

  394. tom c says:

    has this blog been up for 24 years?

  395. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Tom C

    No mate 6 years

  396. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    You know, if the move for RvP didn’t go through……Fergie wanted Vaz Te instead. 8) Bundle of trouble, that boy…

  397. JC says:

    911 why don’t you and your imaginary friend Sara go practice some auto-erotic asphyxiation and forget to unbuckle, you feckin cunt. Your usless drivel has polluted this blog long enough, feck off you schizophreniac loon.

  398. Zibbie says:

    Nice read Willie!

  399. Snoop says:

    Alan Hansen and shearer doubting united already before the season has even started, saying city to win. Bitter and Jelously.

  400. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Ricardo Vaz Te once played Phil Taylor at darts with his full West Ham kit on. FACT!

    Zibbie – No problem brother! ;)

  401. Zibbie says:

    Monday now seems so far away, nice 1st day. PL what a league.

  402. Zibbie says:

    Willie now after some time has passed, hows your ass feel about the new recliner?

  403. Zibbie says:

    OK this SAF dude got some team now. One more position, one specific dude. Good to be that guy.

  404. utd_fc says:

    might be a little late to the party but POOL JUST GOT THEIR ASS HANDED TO THEM. Oh what a sweet moment it was. I wasn’t even gonna watch the game but when they went 1-nil down to WBA i had to watch.

    fuckin hate them scouse cunts

  405. Zibbie says:

    4-4-1-1
    Back 4 and Keeper

    Tony V–Clevs–Kagawa–Nani

    ———–Rooney———

    ————-RVP———

  406. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Zibbie – Very snug mate? :) You can’t beat this kind of comfort!

  407. Zibbie says:

    Pool fell 3-0 hahaha :mrgreen:

  408. Zibbie says:

    4-2-3-1
    Back 4 and Keeper

    ———-Carrick—Clevs—

    Tony V—Rooney—Kagawa

    ———–RVP———

  409. utd_fc says:

    Zibbie

    Did u check out their first goal? What a crackkker! Left that mug Reina stunned!

    Let’s do the same (or worse) to Everton. Give the whole place a bad dayy!

  410. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    I’ve been predicting 4231, or 4321, but we could see 4411. I’m not buying these people saying Van Persie will be on the bench. Fergie will want to get him involved asap.

    DDG, Rafael Rio Vidic Evra

    Valencia Carrick Clevs Kagawa

    Rooney

    RvP

  411. Zibbie says:

    I’m so happy for you ass man. A recliner is a big move for a guy. Like a women or a car, 3 to 10 year run.
    In the store is one thing weeks at home another. GO ROONEY!!!!!

    Rooney, RVP and Kagawa. 80 goals, 46 assists … :cool:

  412. Zibbie says:

    Zoltan the guy on the boardwalk in the fortune machine in Big.

    Tree to start the season then move into a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 or 4-5-1 thing with RVP, Rooney and Kagawa rotating where every they be.

  413. Zibbie says:

    Carrick and Clevs just sounds right. Of course Carrick for Everton.

  414. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    We didn’t really want Kagawa stuck out on the wing, but the arrival of RvP means he will have to play out there on occasions. He’s a pure number 10, so it gives Fergie a major headache picking a formation to fit everyone in. That’s why he’s the boss, though!

  415. enzophonics says:

    My 2 cents on reading and barely contributing on one of the best blogs – and it being a United blog even better. 4-5 years ago I got tired of the bollocks on BBC 606 Manutd forum for exactly the kind of shit being spouted on here. A poster would come on, and be torn to shreds for having an opinion.
    Fair enough someone has too much time on their hands and is/might be using different usernames/ devices to post as more than one person.
    What is sad though is the sheep like behaviour of a guy in Singapore going on and laughing at a guy using slang commonplace in England when they have never been there. Fucking daft. All through the shit we have to sift through, you get a guy who is telling the world he has a child who is ill, loves Utd and it becomes part of a big joke, blah fucking ha. Used to be United fans; especially on RoM was family first and maturity exhibited – kudos to Tonybee in this particular piece.
    Where does the madness end?who cares how many user names you use to stroke your ego – if u got multiple personality issues that’s your bloody problem. Just getting to the point where people are being shouted down and its becoming a fuck pisstake.
    Sorry for long post but its scary how RoM is becoming more like BBC606, though great credit to Scott the Red for the great insightful articles.

  416. Zibbie says:

    This year I see Rooney scoring with his ass, just to many good passes, crosses, flicks, kicks, knock on he will fall ass backwards into a goal.!!! ROOOONNNNEEEEYYYYYYSSSSSSS AAASSSSSSSSSSS scores!!

  417. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    My line up for Monday will be:

    Ddg
    Valencia vidic Rio Evra
    Nani Carrick Scholes Young
    Rooney Wellbeck

  418. Zibbie says:

    enzophonics
    Understand, i saw a great place crumble as well. Here now is good.
    What you think about Rooney’s ass getting a goal?

  419. Zibbie says:

    Power house Giggs12!

  420. Zibbie says:

    Giggs12 thanks for calling out King Eric.

  421. Zibbie says:

    Rooney, Welbeck, Young all summer long playing and training together. It will pay off in their play together from now on.

  422. enzophonics says:

    I think if we read back we can even trace the whole sachu bullshit where two guys where actually sharing the same name and had it out and there where 3 fellas regmegwhatevathefuck, and the two other wums coming on here – probably some 14 year olds city fans.
    If we go the route of everyone having their balls sized up/or lack of, profiles verified by StR this might as well be Twitter of facebook.
    If its football related, by imho, post as whoever the fuck you want to be, just make a good point, direct us to some fucking news (love this place for that!). …now where’s the person who stole my original nick….meet me in a nice dark alley while ya…

  423. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Might be time the men in white coats are called for some strange characters on here. What the fuck is going on?

  424. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Don’t see Welbeck, or Young starting on Monday. Scholes, maybe. ;)

  425. xol says:

    Is there any chance Evans is available on the sly?

  426. enzophonics says:

    @Zibbie I love the training pics (sorry no link) of Rooney and RvP!you can see the fan in Rooney- even the other lads!it was the same when Van the man was around. Rooney will be raring to go. If this signing has given a few more years to our great manager then same can be said of Giggsy and Scholesy and despite all the summer rubbish that Nani is off; the whole team must be buzzing!f*ckin a, am buzzing! Bring on Bartha-lona and Marrrid!haha!

  427. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Rio could be out for a month. Never ends….

  428. Zibbie says:

    Saw a lot of them, Rooney likes trophies, Rooney will love a true #9 as good and diverse as Robin.
    GO ROBIN!! fuck batman :cool:

  429. Zibbie says:

    Willie what? Rio? fuck..

  430. enzophonics says:

    Time to hit the sack, work tomorrow, website to upload before that. Like ‘Pac said, “picture me rollin”
    Older brother hasn’t spoken to me for days (big arse’nl fan!)
    Great results on the first day of the PL. Usual ejaculation from the media bout permeations of the Dippers losing. Keep calm, too early for predications. Utd usual slow start?hope to fucking not. Put the blue dippers to the sword, hit the nice and early.
    Carrick in centre d with Vida?or Michael Keane/Wooten given a chance. Hope so. Throw them. In the deepend, sink or swim, its a man’s game.
    Sorry for early rant but please RoMers. Let bygones be, whoever wants to post – let them. Multiple usernames – StR can sort it out if he feels the need to; or a therapist couch. Me; I prefer JD and coke, smooth, no ice. Then I become 3 people united in one schlong. Ah. Peace

  431. enzophonics says:

    Time to hit the sack, work tomorrow, website to upload before that. Like ‘Pac said, “picture me rollin”
    Older brother hasn’t spoken to me for days (big arse’nl fan!)
    Great results on the first day of the PL. Usual ejaculation from the media bout permeations of the Dippers losing. Keep calm, too early for predications. Utd usual slow start?hope to fucking not. Put the blue dippers to the sword, hit the nice and early.
    Carrick in centre d with Vida?or Michael Keane/Wooten given a chance. Hope so. Throw them. In the deepend, sink or swim, its a man’s game.
    Sorry for early rant but please RoMers. Let bygones be, whoever wants to post – let them. Multiple usernames – StR can sort it out if he feels the need to; or a therapist couch. Me; I prefer JD and coke, smooth, no ice. Then I become 3 people united in one schlong. Ah. Peace

  432. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Willie – was just about to post that, that’s a big blow. looks like it will be a long night against everton, especially if michael carrick is deployed at centre back. Jelavic and felliani could have a field day. Might have to call in scott wooton.

  433. Zibbie says:

    I’m watching the best thing, Garrincha the true #7

  434. xol says:

    I was watching the first half of qpr v Swansea. Great to hear Park has got the captaincy, Couldn’t believe the scoreline – funny old game. Park was pointing and directing play and Fabio started well I thought. Great long balls in to the box and dangerous down the left flank. Unlike Glen Johnson!

  435. Zibbie says:

    Sam, Willie what is up?

  436. Zibbie says:

    Costas told us not to be happy! Fuck. :mrgreen:

  437. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Centre back was one position i felt united were stocked in. Jones still needs work but he’s injured, smalling, evans and now rio. That’s a lot of players to be all out at once, FERGIE can’t do much when injury strikes. United can’t buy a billion centre halfs just to provide cover. Shit happens. Might be time to throw younger players who are experts of that position rather than play a midfielder there. I won’t be suprised if evans is fit for the game though.

  438. Zibbie says:

    2-4-4

    ——Viva–Evra——–

    Rafa–Carrick–Cleves–Young

    Nani–RVP–Rooney–Kagawa

  439. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Another player injured in training? Seems a pattern is developing. One game you wouldn’t want Carrick playing at CH. Everton will look to exploit us there. Got the players to do it. Evans was training on Friday, but whether he’s ready yet, I’m not sure.

  440. Zibbie says:

    Rooney LB Evra CB?

  441. Costas says:

    @Zibbie

    Sorry pal, but that’s why I found all the comments about RVP being the missing piece of the puzzle hillarious. Our defence is short of options and severely fragile and it amazes me to this day how many fans turn a blind eye. Jones, a 21 year old, is resting his back because he felt spasms. I am lost for words at this point.

  442. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Qpr were terrible as a team but Fabio has a lot of work to do before he can be a regular at united. Technically gifted but his performance for QPR last night would disappoint him. Got caught out a couple of times, a little erratic at times but the experience he’ll gain Will aid him to elevate into standards expected at united hopefully.

  443. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    I thought when Keane left United, the training games would be less intense! ;) Pray for Evans!

  444. Zibbie says:

    Loving Kebab is never having to say your sorry. you are my counter weight! :cool:

  445. xol says:

    Lindegard, Rafael, Carrick, Vidic, Giggs, Nani, Anderson, Cleverley, Evra, Rooney, Welbeck. Giggs behind Evra has been done before. That boy Giggs can tackle and has the calmness to get things going in the right direction. Lindegard if Rio’s out, De Gea otherwise.

  446. samuel - united WE stand says:

    rio is 33, maybe it’s time we faced reality and realise frequent injuries might occur. Regarding injuries in training, it happens at every club so let’s not start the doom and gloom.

    United have 5 centre halves, that’s enough for any big club. If injuries strikes most of them then there’s nothing much that can be done, players are human. FERGIE will find a way to wriggle out of this hopefully.

  447. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    xol – Sparky took the Swans far too lightly mate. Alarms bells are ringing already for me. This wasn’t United, or city coming to QPR’s home and scoring 5 goals. It was Swansea ffs! Never rated that Rob Green either. He’s a clown. Error prone.

  448. Costas says:

    @Zibbie

    It’s just that I tend to get snide about this topic, but I can’t help it. It’s extremely frustrating. Same old crap for 3 years now. Sweating over the defenders’ fitness.

  449. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Samuel – I don’t think it’s doom and gloom mate. Frustration, more than anything. Going into our first game of the season and we could have only fit CH? Not ideal. The fact this keeps happening is worrying. Anyway, hoping Fergie has some good news for us on the injury front. Jonny Evans I’m particularly thinking about.

    Goodnight lads.

  450. samuel - united WE stand says:

    You’re actually going to play Giggs at left back? against everton with the tricky and energetic steven pienaar running at him?

  451. xol says:

    Yeh on the highlights looked like fabio was the one that lost possession – just before Swansea scored, although the 4 or 5 behind him could have tried a bit harder. Sort it out Hughesy. That Taylor, the Swansea defender, his story is similar to Smalling’s. Can’t find a video but he made some blinding passes for Great Britain, one up the right wing over the top to Bellamy was pass of the tournament.

  452. xol says:

    Yeh, was it Chelsea or Arsenal when the boss actually did that.

  453. Costas says:

    Night Willie. Hope you’re right about Evans.

  454. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Willie – i understand the frustrations but aren’t natural injuries beyond anyone’s hands? precautions can be done but it happens, it’s part of the game. the manager knows that and has said countless of times that the club has to get on with it. Let’s hope evans can be available at least or the likes of scott wooton/Michael keane will have to be thrown into the deep end.

  455. xol says:

    The Everton lot are a noisy bunch, wouldn’t like to have youth at the back unless there’s an alternative.

  456. JC says:

    If Rio is really out, leave Carrick in the midfield and start De Gea in central defense as a sweeper with Lindy playing goal… ha!

    Probably just mindgames for Mancunti though…

  457. xol says:

    *too much youth I mean. I had Piennar in my fantasyfooty team 2 seasons ago when he had a bit of form.

  458. FRO-NAM says:

    Sup mudda fuckers!!! Finally footie is back tho we have to wait to Monday, feel like a kid on Xmas eve! Not wanting to wish my weekend away but fucking roll on Monday night!!

    Pity fabio/park on losing side today but good minutes for young da silva, he’ll come back to us stronger mentally and physically, with some game time under his belt!

    Watched pool game with 2 of my best mates, both dipper fans! We have a deal not to be complete cocks to each other about our respective teams bc were all so fucking stubborn it could end in punches ……………..Christ I nearly shit myself from laughing!!! 3-0! 2 pens!! Stevie me no where to be seen! Cole pretending to be footballer b4 going off for early soak! Lol SOOO fucking funny!!!

  459. Dan-young says:

    My formation of choice on monday…
    4231

    DDG
    TV7 – vidic – rio – evra
    Clevs – carrick
    Kagawa – rooney – nani
    RVP (RVC)

    Rafael hasnt trained this week i thought? Also TV7 is capable of doing everything on the right wing meaning kagawa can play more in the middle and link midfield with attack leaving cleverley to thread passes out to TV7 on the wing

  460. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Ferguson pointed out finding the right combinations for the strikers. I think that’s exactly what he’s going to do, find the next Cole+York and Ted+Ole. I think that’s the only way about playing all 4 but also giving RVP+Wazza more games and Welbz and Chicha the neccesary 30 appearances.

    I reckon he won’t want to risk RVP in 40+ apps and doesn’t want to limit Welbz to 20-25apps which is more on the Scholes Level in the league and over all competitions 35 games average. This applies for Chciha too.

    Im going for the combo’s to look something like.

    Nani – Ando — Cleverley
    —————Kagawa——
    ——– RVP —– Chicha

    or

    Valencia – Carrick – Scholes – Young
    ———Rooney —— Welbeck ——

    But about the striking combo’s, I hope you get what Im waffling on about. The possibilities go beyond just the fantasy dream duo double act. Both Wazza and RVP are No.10….Welbz has a blossoming partnership with WR10….Chicha is troubled, Kags and Robin might be the men to set him free and draw defenders away.

    We Have Been Strengthened. Just buy a left back now SAF !

  461. denton davey says:

    WBA 3 – LiverPoo nil.

    Go ahead, make my day.

    Enuf.

  462. TraffordLord says:

    Hi people,

    Checking back in at the beginning of another exciting season. I enjoyed all the banter during the multiple transfer sagas and rumors, refused to join in as that shit is a sure way to frayed nerves.

    I still can’t believe we bagged RVP, he is a game changer and we now have another lethal left foot. He’ll have a big say on where we finish this season. Kagawa is an inspired signing, his vision and guile in advanced positions will be the conduit to lots of goals by our assassin strike force. The other younger lads, Powell and Henriquez will need time to grow into their new assignments.

    We are indeed top heavy, but we have ferocious competition at most positions…except LB and DM.

    My expectations are to grab #20, reach the CL semi-final at minimum, and win the Manchester derbies. Here is to all the reds old and new…let the most rise again!

  463. Ash says:

    RvP may not be selected for the first game but who knows we may see RvP-Rooney combo. I just Hope it does work out.

    And By the way what the fuck is happening in this blog. Talk some sense guys. The season has started but only few are talking about footy.Please Don’t spoil this blog.

  464. Red Robin says:

    Enzo

    I have never laughed at anyone comment here nor I ever laugh to anyone slang,accent or whatever. Can u copy and paste that part of me laughing at tap’s slang?

    I seldom post my comment here, but I like to read through other comments just to have some footy insight or rant or chant. I know I could have just roll on and pretend nothing to those weird comments, which many people here, including me, think to have came from same person. But weird is weird, and those weird comments were dominating this blog last night. And its annoying when you were expecting to read some good football stuff but end up reading monologue of one person using 2 or 3 monikers.

  465. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning all

    It is really a sad state of affairs on the blog these days, I am not being dramatic, been posting here for ages and we have always had trolls on here however this multi user ID freak is doing my head in. People ask me to ignore but its not in my nature.

    The season has started and we have a match tomorrow yet you have a creep who just comes here to talk to himself …..Bloody hell…….

    Anyway cannot wait for tomorrow night, I have no idea whatsoever which line up the boss will use, will RvP start? Will Wee Thomas play? And what is this I have been reading that Rio is out for a month? What the fuck, the season has not started and we are already getting injuries, dear God not that curse again please.

  466. Redbilly says:

    Morning cedars

    Regarding such a troll , I guess it’s attention they seek. My suggestion with all is to disengage by non communication. If they gain no response he/ she/ it may desist.

    Did you give your Liverpool supporting relative a suitable reply :-) .

  467. CedarsDevil says:

    Hi Redbilly

    Not sure if you know but I am in HR, I can read right through people simply by what they write and I cannot help it mate, I cannot keep my mouth shut against stupidity and ignorance….

    As for my nephew, it was funny as fuck……….First I told him to fuck off, he pissed himself. Then I told him we have RvP, Rooney and Kagawa while you have Henderson, Downing and Carroll!!

  468. Ash says:

    Cedars

    Would be gutted if rio is injured. We have already lost Jones and smalling. Evans is doubtful for the first match and now Rio is also injured. Not a great way to start your season. I won’t mind if we buy a defender now. We need a defender. Carrick at defense doesn’t look good. We need to sort out the defense part. I hope rio’s injury news is fake.

    I felt sad for Park and Fabio yesterday after they were thrashed by Swansea but I was somewhat happy that qpr got humiliated. I know blaming QPR for us not winning the league last season would be stupid but they way they rolled over in last 4 mins was unacceptable. As much as we criticize the media even they admitted QPR gave up. Teams like them don’t deserve to play in a top league football. There were some city fans who said this was like us coming against Bayern in the final but even those jerks understood QPR gifted them the match and the league. Screw QPR. I just hope Fabio plays as many games as possible and comes back with experience.

    One more thing I would also like to see Kiko go on loan. No point playing in reserves. Its high time we send him to a proper club where he gets some games and score some goals. Look at lukaku he has been sent to loan at west brom and he scored yesterday. We already are filled with strikers so no point keeping him. We should act fast and send him on loan. Still 11 days are to go before the window closes so I expect some more transfer activities form us. I am expecting some young players to be sent on loan.

    I also heard arsenal have lost song also now. Walcott is also threatening to leave. If I was asked which one more player I would take from Asrenal then My pick would be OX chamberlin . Really love that Kid. Pretty talented. But now I can bet Arsene wouldn’t see us a virus ;)

    And well played Liverpool. What a start by them. For sure its their year :lol:

  469. Ash says:

    Sell us a virus*

  470. Vishal S says:

    United have still not played a game and Liverpool are below United in the table:-D:-D

  471. Redbilly says:

    Hahaha. I bet hexwas a barrel of laughs last night . I understand what you mean re troll. My opinion us they seek confusion , and anger . If they receive no reply often trey fuck off else where . Difficult to disengage I know but we h ave a choice to read the messages or not I guess . For someone to go through such elaborate charades indicates an unsound mind.

    This is a great blog and , like yourself I would not wish to see it deteriorate .

    Anyway, the scouse hammered , fucking great start for the Renaissance team of the north.

  472. Redbilly says:

    Vishal- pissing myself at your insight . Liverp30l. Hahahaha

  473. Redbilly says:

    Ash- QPR face up or more accurately acted unprofessionally , at least some of their players.

  474. CedarsDevil says:

    Ash

    Nothing confirmed yet on Rio, but like you I would be gutted if true…..Would hate to see Carrick in defence, we are cursed again! As for QPR, any other team would have rolled over the same way once they knew they were safe on the last day of the season. If you want someone to blame than it should be Barton, cunt got himself sent off early on and his team were up against it.

    Redbilly

    I usually leave him alone when they lose. Do not like to rub it in, after all he is family!

  475. CedarsDevil says:

    Been reading the official website, no news on Rio. I honestly hope it was just paper crap

  476. Red Robin says:

    I agree with costas that RVP is not the missing piece of puzzle. However, to bring in 39% of the gunners firepower in RVP definetely will have a great impact to United. But to me the missing piece of puzzle that we should find is a defensive midfielder with quality of Keano or Ince. It does not have to be a box to box midfielder, but someone who can yell at other players for any errors and rule the team. Someone who make sure those goals conceded against Hannover and last season Everton must be avoided.

  477. Redbilly says:

    Cedars- fair point .

  478. Ash says:

    Cedars

    Mate I doubt Clubs like Everton, Swansea or sunderland or even a Bolton would have done like that. If they had conceded 2 goals in 10 mins then I could understand but the moment they knew they were safe they gave up. Every club should play to win. It showed they were unprofessional. Barton is a cunt but QPR did well without him for 35 mins then why did they suddenly gave up in the last 4 mins. So playing with 10 men cannot be taken into consideration. QPR deserve criticism and I hope they get relegated badly.

  479. Corea says:

    With Rio out for month repotedly (The Telegrath) i want to see Michael Keane against Everton. Cmon Fergie!

  480. Utd4life says:

    Please don’t tell me that Rio is injured. As much as I love Carrick, I don’t want him to play any part in the back 4 for the entire season. I hope and pray that we don’t suffer from the annual injury crisis that seems to plague us almost every season. And how good was it to hear Fletcher play for 90 minutes?? If he gets fit then it would make a world of difference to our midfield options.

  481. Utd4life says:

    Corea. I wouldnt play Micheal Keane. The lad is a good defender but he is inexperienced and that could cost us dearly. If none of our first team defenders then I would go with Carrick.

  482. CedarsDevil says:

    Ash

    Fair enough mate, if that is how you feel than just for you…….Fuck OFF QPR

    Just that in my years I have seen so many last day dramas and its always the same, once teams know they are safe they give up……..

    Funniest one though was when city got relegated on the last day of the season when they were playing Liverpool, was 2 – 2 and they thought they were safe and took their foot off the pedal, turns out they were not safe! Daft fuckers, was funny as fuck. I cannot remember the year

  483. Corea says:

    De Gea
    Valencia M.Keane Vidic Evra
    Nani Carrick Scholes Young
    Rooney Wellbeck

    for Everton.

    But we are entitled to any surprises. I just thought with first game and away game and against tricky opposition no chances would be taken with possible formations and we stick to something more simillar to last years formations.
    Exeption Michael Keane but not sure Fergie would take that risk.

  484. Corea says:

    Michael Keane would have had a better chance of playing if only not for Evra. I am pretty confident Valencia and Vidic would cover for him but we also have Patrice Evra that doesn’t add to the stability at the back these days. Michael Keane would have been a nice risk at OT but away to Everton it’s a tougher task of course.
    At the middle Carrick with his form from last year of course for stability and Scholesy to supply.
    But it’s all just speculations and football manager.
    I wonder what Fergie thinks and is he eager to play RvP from the start. Would he listen to a little boy in him. :) It would be interesting.

  485. CedarsDevil says:

    These formations you folk put up baffle me. Have we sold Kagawa?

  486. Corea says:

    CedarsDevil – i would gladly give RvP and Kagawa debuts against Fulham at OT. Of 90% of us want to do it fast but it depends.
    But looking at Fergie’s decisions through out there is a good chance we will see them against Everton straighaway.

  487. ARUN says:

    @CEDARSDEVIL
    how abt this

    de gea
    rafael rio vida evra
    nani cleverly carrick
    kagawa
    rooney rvp

  488. Corea says:

    For an unproven player to prove himself he has to prove himself. :-D
    I haven’t known a single player who proved himself playing in reserves.
    To prove himself a player needs to prove himself in the games for the first team.
    Fergie mentioned good start is important but taking chances in the first game is nowhere simillar to losing points to Wigan and Everton in the squeaky bum time.

  489. Utd4life says:

    I think both Kagawa and RVP will start from the bench against Everton. I think the Gaffer will send a familiar lineup just to get things settled. If we are on course for a win with about 20-30 minutes left then I think the Gaffer will introduce Kagawa and RVP. On the other hand, he might just put both of them in the starting lineup and let all hell break lose.

  490. CedarsDevil says:

    Corea & ARUN

    Cheers fellas, never one to try formations, predicting the 11 that Sir Alex will put out is something we can never do! It just made me smile that almost every predicted formation I saw on here did not include Kagawa! Why on earth did we buy then? ha ha ha

  491. ARUN says:

    rio ferdinand tweeted yesterday after trainig that soocer saturday is a good watch after a lazy day in training………… doesnt sound like soomeone who is injured

  492. Utd4life says:

    Corea. Like you said, I wouldn’t mind playing Micheal Keane at OT since he will feel quite at home. However, playing him in the first league match, away from home at Goodison Park which is known to be an hostile ground could just intimidate the lad. But he could also handle it well like how Johnny Evans did in his debut match against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge (Evans was class in that game). Personally, I wouldnt play the lad.

  493. CedarsDevil says:

    Utd4life

    Would much rather go with the last line in your post mate…….Unleash them all and let all hell break loose………Loved it

  494. enzophonics says:

    Maybe its the romantic red in me but I remember the days when (after golden generation) we threw in a young wesley brown, john o’shea against the likes of Figoooo, etc.
    Seems nowadays the competitveness of the game has gone up(?)…less easier to throw in young players.
    Talking of which, its frightening how many ‘young’ talents we have for our so called troubled mid – 2 spots up for grabs and you have:
    Seniors: Carrick, Scholesy, TC23, Ando, even Giggsy backed up by: Petrucci,Tunni, Lingaard, L. Cole even Jones. Do we really need to buy?

  495. Utd4life says:

    Cedars. I hope they both start tomorrow. If the trio of Rooney-RVP-Kagawa get some sort of understanding between them then Everton won’t know what hit them. It’s time the Toffees tasted our fury for denying us our title.

  496. ARUN says:

    @enzophonics
    mate we only need a left back .

  497. Corea says:

    @Utd4life – it is just a matter of Fergie being too cautious at times with those yougsters. I am not in the position to question the manager on that thing because too many issues are involved but when he wants a player to succeed and he thinks the player has a good chance of succeeding Sir Alex gives them the breakthrough.

  498. enzophonics says:

    Whatever happened to Steven Defour (captain?) of Standard Liege?seems the forgotten Belgian?did he move to russia? I remember watching a pre- champions lge interview where both he and Axel Witsel were asked about Utd and both talked of excitement of moving if it happened. Witsel seems to have progressed better but I think the hype is still unjustified- he is a work in progress and has a nasty streak that could help or be a detriment.

  499. CedarsDevil says:

    Utd4life

    My young friend, I cannot begin to describe how much I am looking forward for tomorrow…..We have an excellent squad this year and it puzzles me that some still moan……

    Anyway, you are right, we owe them scousers a bashing

  500. Utd4life says:

    Enzophonics. I believe the Gaffer is a firm believer of the youth policy. If a certain youngster is good enough for the first team then I am pretty sure the Gaffer would have no hesitation in throwing him in the deep end. I think the Gaffer has done a brilliant and phenomenal job in balancing success and integrating youth players into the first team. There is no other manager who could have done such a thing. Tell me how many youth players did City have in their squad last season? I can’t think of any. On the other hand, we had Cleverley, Welbeck and Evans who were all part of the UTD youth teams. We might have lost the title last season but seeing players who have come up through the ranks more than makes up for the disappointment.

  501. Corea says:

    Watching QPR second half.
    With Hoilett at LW Fabio will be involved more in his defensive duties.
    But the important thing for him is to get as many minutes as possible.

  502. enzophonics says:

    Funny how footballers these days are labelled as either attackers or ‘good defensively.’ Used to be if you are on the pitch you put a foot in on a 50-50, drop back to defend when you have to. Kagawa is a 2nd striker?if he plays in mid, am sure SAF will work on his def. game!
    Monday will not be an easy game- doubt that Rio is really out, woulda been on Twitter with that!

  503. Utd4life says:

    Cedars. We do owe them a bashing. Regarding the squad, I don’t think we would have any problems in scoring goals but a LB wouldn’t go amiss. Paddy Evra seriously needs to buck up and take his game to another level.

  504. Corea says:

    @Utd4life – lol pretty simillar thinking. ;)
    There is another one. Certain mister Wenger. So many players he has nurtured. But from the time they started The Emirates project most of this kind of stuff was a need because he didn’t want to splash the cash.
    Certain mister Alex Song from 750k to a great footballer who plays for Barcelona etc.

  505. Utd4life says:

    Corea. Wenger takes the youth policy to an extreme level. When people talk about the class of ’92 they also talk about Cantona’s influence on the team at that time. He was our talisman, youngsters looked up to him for inspiration and confidence. Would the class of ’92 have won the PL if Cantona was not there? Maybe, maybe not. Bottom line is, you need to complement the youth policy with experience and leadership. Wenger has not done this and hence the barren 7 years.
    Regarding Song, I think he is a good player and would at best be a useful squad player at UTD. I have no idea in how Barca want to use him but as far as I am concerned, his signing is a step down for Barca.

  506. enzophonics says:

    @Utd4life too true mate. People bang on about every new thing on the block, link them with us- forgetting like Guus Hiddink pointed out that SAF is always 2-3 years ahead of everyone. We buy a young italian at 15/16 now the lad is 19 (Petrucci), develop L. Cole and Lingaard but still the abus clamour for us to buy similarily aged players from spain etc. Even at LB – whose to say Tyler Blackett and Brady won’t perform and only option is Taylor (very solid) or Baines! Personally think this squad is complete.
    People talk up L’arse, but imo we are ahead by keeping our core older heads, every season introduce 2-3 ‘talents’ from within

  507. Costas says:

    People say we have 5 CBs as options, but that couldn’t ve further from the truth. For one thing, it’s very rare that all of them ever fit at the same time. Secondly, most of the time Jones and Smalling have to cover at right back and I assume now Evans will have to play at left back every now and then. So we’ve never had the option of selecting 2 central defenders out of 5. The truth is we have 7 defenders and most of them are injury prone.

    Just play a youngster next to Vidic on Monday. It’s not like Carrick will do any better in defence. And we can’t afford to weaken our midfield as well.

  508. CedarsDevil says:

    Just wanted to sign off with this very interesting non football comment…..

    It takes 18 facial muscles to smile while it takes 48 muscles to frown

    Pissing off to the beach, fuck yeah!

    UNITED UNITED UNITED

  509. james21 says:

    Morning all
    Was just catching up on last nights posts. Fucking hell this place is getting far too creepy. I don’t think I’ll bother any more until STR sorts this multiusername shit out.
    Parry is Scottish but you dont see his post with any accent. Absolute madness. Oh and you can hide your ip address anyone can do it.
    Laters.

  510. Utd4life says:

    Enzophonics. I am not against buying star players because you can never have too much quality in a squad. What I am against is buying every player under the sun. The youth program exists for a reason. To be honest, I would much rather see a youth player in the first team than a player like RVP or Kagawa. For instance, the Gaffer stuck with Gibson even though we all knew that he wouldn’t make it at UTD. He persisted with Cleverley and Welbeck and now he is reaping the benefits. The Gaffer will always give the youth a chance. There are several benefits in having a good youth program but you need to be very patient in order to reap the rewards. I wonder why the likes of Chelsea and City have a youth program when their idea of building a team is by recruiting players from all over the globe by splashing an obscene amount of cash.

  511. Utd4life says:

    Costas. I don’t think there has been ever a time when we have had all our defenders fit at the same time. I don’t like seeing Smalling, Jones or Evans at LB/RB positions at any time during this season because these lads do not really offer anything in those positions.
    If Rio is injured then I would play Carrick along side Vidic. I don’t think our midfield will be weakened by having Carrick in defense since each of our other midfielders-Cleverley, Ando, Scholes and Giggs are fit and raring to go.

  512. enzophonics says:

    Utd4life exactly. Case in point is why the gaffer keeps on about not having his hand forced by the Glazers clan. Chelsea under Hiddink should’ve been able to build a solid core of young players – even Ancelotti is reknowned for developing top young talents. But you have the abrahamovich factor; constant pressure every season to buy the flavour-of-the month player.
    If Dailyfail are to be believed SAF has two more years and building his next great team. Think we’ve heard that for 10 year now!

  513. Diego says:

    Not having Carrick at the middle is a massive loss. Not one of our other midfielders can do what he does. Having all that attacking power is useless if we can’t get hold of the ball. It is a sad state when this sort of injury crisis is almost expected every season.

  514. Costas says:

    @Utd4life

    We do have options in midfield, but I am not sure we won’t to miss Carrick’s composure in a game like this. I know Tom and Ando developed a good partnership last year, but they haven’t played together in 11 months. We’ll see. Hopefully Evans will pass a fitness test and we won’t have to worry about that.

    The main worry at the moment is if Rio is out for 1-2 months as it’s been speculated. It leaves us with limited options at the back or maybe no options because Jones (when he returns) will have to play at right back at some point.

  515. CJ7 says:

    West Brom really slaughter the scousers yesterday…could have scored 6. According to a friend this is surpose to be their year…he have been saying that for the past 5 seasons or more.How daft can you really be. Even Chelsea’s loanee Lakuka had a very good game ,really exposing the dippers shortcomings. On another point being reported that Rio could miss the 1st month of football ,have the club confirm that?

  516. ARUN says:

    @COSTAS
    mate rio tweeted yesterday that he is watching soccer saturday after a lazy day in training.doesnt sound injured to me.

  517. Marq says:

    Rumors of Rio being injured. Havent yet appeared in mainstream news sites, hope that is just what it is, rumors

  518. CJ7 says:

    Good comment Diego ,thats why i laugh when i see some of the predicted lineups on here. Everton’s gonna be pumped up for this one ,eventhough they’ve lost some good players recently they are still a good unit. On their day they can be a real handful…but i think UTD should be too strong for them. We cant just start off with all out attack ,eventhough we fans enjoy that ,thats what caused our demise last season because the defense could’nt match up to our attack(for various reasons) ,which unbalanced the team in my opinion.From an attacking point we are up there with the very best…our current defensive crisis is causing concern though.

  519. Redial says:

    I was just thinking. We might not be needing a new CMer again if anderson comes good this season. Look at leiva. He was crap at first, but has become quite important to liverpool. So much so that some of their fans really missed him when he got injured last season. And to top it,the two of ‘em are about the same age.

  520. Evans_KickingSkills says:

    Sub: Hargreaves???

    Should have said:
    Injured: Hargreaves

  521. the redderdevil says:

    Wow, thank heavens the season is on. if its true rio’s injured then our season is ona very familiar path. but didn’t. we tie on points and lose on goal difference last season. wit worse injuries. add kagawa and rvp, thid season is ours for the taking. fuck those advoc

  522. the redderdevil says:

    Wow, thank heavens the season is on. if its true rio’s injured then our season is ona very familiar path. but didn’t. we tie on points and lose on goal difference last season. wit worse injuries. add kagawa and rvp, thid season is ours for the taking. fuck thospe adv

  523. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Spoon 2 – Don’t talk soft! I need a fellow stirrer on here….. ;)

  524. parryheid says:

    Redial.

    If Anderson comes good this his sixth season?Did pool wait six seasons for Leiva to come good,your dreaming man.

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