Rob Dawson and Mike Keegan, football writers at The Manchester Evening News, has given their thoughts on United ahead of the 2012-2013 season.
Scott the Red: United usually end the season so strongly. What went wrong last season?
Rob Dawson: I’ve still got no idea. I think if United played that sequence of games 100 times, they wouldn’t get a lower points tally than they did last season. The games that stick out are obviously Wigan, Everton and City. I think they probably ran into Wigan at the wrong time because they were just getting to grips with Roberto Martinez’s 3-4-3. I think if that game had been played two weeks earlier, United would have won comfortably. The result against Everton at home was unforgivable. To be 4-2 up with the final whistle in sight and not close the game out is unacceptable for a team of United’s quality and experience. I will never understand why Patrice Evra was in the position to hit the post when United were already 4-2 up. The whole game was just bizarre. As for City away, I think United lost as soon as the team sheet went in.
STR: It certainly wasn’t our best XI that Fergie put out for City. Valencia on the bench? What? But is United’s current squad capable of winning the league?
RD: I think they’ve got a squad strong enough to mount a prolonged title challenge and be right in the mix if City suffer injuries or slip up. I still think City have got a stronger first XI but United’s squad has greater depth. But if City can keep everyone fit and in form I think it’ll be very hard to stop them winning the league again. I would change that prediction if United signed a top-class midfielder before September 1st. Signing Robin van Persie has certainly evened things up a bit though and I think it’ll be a fascinating battle this season.
MK: I don’t think it is. It’s been said often elsewhere that last season’s second place was one of Fergie’s finest achievements at Old Trafford and I agree. The prospect of Robin van Persie and Wayne Rooney is one that has lifted expectations but that big question still remains over central midfield. I think the lack of that ball-winner could trip United up this season although it could be rectified before the end of the transfer window.
STR: Given United’s injury crisis and the money City have spent, was it surprising they only won the league on goal difference?
RD: Most definitely. Because of the way the season ended, United’s injury crisis throughout the campaign is overlooked. They did remarkably well to get as close as they did but that’s forgotten because they threw it away at the end.
MK: No. I think a lot of people underestimate how hard it is to win the Premier League. They look at Blackburn all those years ago and think things are still the same. They aren’t. Blackburn were a bit of a one-off because at the time not many other teams were spending those amounts and it was a bit more of a level playing field. City needed to spend big to catch up and I thought Roberto Mancini did a fantastic job to take a squad of strangers to the title. If anything, they won it a year early which is pretty ominous for United although having said that, Fergie will probably be as hungry for the coming season as he has been for any during his time at Old Trafford which can only be a good thing for the Reds.
STR: Who do you think will be United’s most important player in 2012-2013?
MK: Anderson. Scoring goals has never really been a problem for United and the arrival of Robin van Persie should ensure that is the case again this term. Most Reds were crying out for a ball-winning midfielder over the summer and for good reason. United have not had that bite in the middle of the park since Roy Keane left and the departure of Park and the uncertainty surrounding Darren Fletcher’s future will see a lot of the responsibility fall on the Brazilian’s shoulders. It’s a big ask.
STR: If you had to pick a best XI from the two clubs, what would it look like?
RD: Hart, Richards, Clichy, Vidic, Kompany, Carrick, Y Toure, Silva, Van Persie, Rooney, Aguero.
MK: Hart, Clichy, Richards, Vidic, Kompany, Toure, Silva, Carrick, Aguero, Rooney, Van Persie.
STR: What’s the best/worst thing about writing for the MEN?
MK: The best thing is getting paid to write about something that you love watching. There are better-paid jobs but you cannot put a price on looking forward to going into work every day. The worst thing is the constant string of abuse and accusations from strangers on Twitter. It used to annoy me but now I actually take some kind of perverse enjoyment from it. If someone sends me something ludicrous I just tend to ‘favourite’ it. Because I work for news as well as sport sometimes I’ll have to do a straight news shift and knocking on someone’s door when a tragedy has just struck their family is never something you look forward to.
RD: The best thing is being based in a city with the two best teams in England. The worst thing is being caught in the middle of the rivalry between them.
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Thanks STR
your view from the enemy is simply awesome
With the football season started I’m more looking forward to going to work!
Bless em. Rio can’t even make the bench with either of em. #Fail!
More to the point What the flip is happenin w our CFs?! Evans, Smalling, Jones Crocked……. now Rio?! JaysusWept! Is the United or a bleepin recovery unit?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2190503/Rio-Ferdinand-miss-weeks-injury.html
It wasn’t a surprise that we took City to the limit despite the injury crisis. After all, we only had the league to focus on in the last 4 months of the season. Which is just about how much our defensive options could handle.
The biggest surprise was that we fucked it up after gaining an 8 point lead.
Wow… No wingers in either of the chosen the best XI Suprised by that one???
Only players from Citeh that could ever get in best XI is Hart, Y Toure and possibly Kompany.
Looking at the post makes me think think that our United players are second fiddle to City. Well, perhaps certain qualities The Cities had and United does not, but there are some which Cities does not have but United have. Yet, currently I am hoping we had a central midfield who can play at least close to Toure or Keane. If SAF could find one before the transfer window closed, United should be fine this season and we might have less heart-breaking outcomes.
Who cares about this shit? Our season starts tomorrow and 80 % of our CBs are out. Jones and Evans didn’t play any games during the summer, Smalling had a surgery but I still can’t get how they can be injured? What the fuck is wrong with our training regime? When will the annual CM injury spree occur? I hope Valencia and Carrick enjoys playing in defense.
What’s wrong with the training regime. why don’t you apply for a job there and Prevent natural injuries from happening.
I maintain Anderson can turn out to be our enforcer. Ceteris Paribus he has the physic,strength,accelation but am not sure of his tackling. I believe.
what anderson has to add to his game is professionalism. He needs to get his head down and starting working. He looks fit and sharp now, he can be that energetic driving force in midfield. Another thing is, he looks like he has improved his shocking shooting technique.
Fact is, he knows if he doesn’t step up this season, FERGIE might cut his losses and send him packing but the new contract shows faith in the brazilian.
I’m still wondering if he’s a late developer, he’s still 24 but he needs to play regularly and stay fit. What i want to see is more responsibility from the brazilian, i want to see him orchestrating that midfield rather than hide in the shadows. passing range and technique is good but needs to accumulate games and i hope he steps up.
He basically needs to be trusted more for united.
ALL our injuries are just down to bad luck. Every single one of them….ain’t that right Costas?
What some don’t realise is, one player can’t stop a team getting exposed. Defensively, the whole team has to take responsibility and be compact/solid defensively. Every player will have to be focused and put in a shift while united don’t have possession. A workman in midfield can’t protect the team by himself, the full team has to do it. It’s not a one man’s game.
Take a leaf out of barcelona and you’ll notice that their defensive job is shared around, they place emphasis on the team while the rest of the footballing world looks for an individual to be the saviour and that’s part of the reason why no team can get close to the spanish at the moment. People need to learn fundamentals of the game.
Yeah, It’s not as if we have been buttfucking the rest of the premier league in the injuries table for the last 3-4 years.
Every team has injuries, playing victim and moaning about it isn’t what the manager does, he knows it’s a physical sport in a demanding league. if you aren’t a coach at united, how would you know the training regime is the cause for injuries?.
Great article and spot on when he says as soon as the team sheet went in for the Derby we had lost that game. I will always wonder what Fergie’s reflections were after that game.
Onwards and upwards and tomorrow brings our latest campaign in what for is the most exciting in any of my previous campaigns as a season ticket holder.
I was fortunate not to have to had witness City dominance in the early 70′s when they had a great side, I have never known what it feels like to be the second best team in the city. I am bit sadistic and I have enjoyed my summer of fucking despising them blue nose cunts. They thoroughly deserved the title last year they took ten points and a ten goal swing so I have no complaints.
That said we lacked goals and we have bought Van the man and the eastern delight of Kagawa. We have our captain back in the team and that can not be under valued in any respect. Clev and Anderson over their injuries to play with Carrick and Scholes. We are in better shape than we have been in for a long time. Fergie means business and that usually means one thing.
” As the reds going marching on on on “
correction – 6 points
26, 10 year veteran. Now a #9 with all the skills of a modern striker. Entering his next 10 years.
DDG at CB Lindy in goal?
Is Rafa back yet?
Wootton at CB? Perhaps on the bench?
I’m rootten for Wootton!!
I’m keen on Keane.
Kaka to join United¡¡¡
@Rai
Yeah mate. Plain bad luck. I mean, who could ever believe that Rio or Smalling would get injured? Especially with their track records of staying fit… Evans had his much needed surgery so no complaints there. I’d rather not speak on Jones’ problem.
Bad luck my ass.
I hope Cedars has keep his hydration up. Gatorade IV’s.
Kaka to Man Utd?
Might be a loan deal. Twitter rumours though.
Could Blackett hack it?
Kebab has such a nice ass as well, hello mate. I almost never tease you, I did the other day. All good. please I get it and you. Never need to say sorry to me mate. A opps maybe.
I like it, he can Hack it, soon. Like a morning luggy and it is 2 hours before you wake.
Well if no Rafa, then put Tony V, Kid, Vida, Evra. And win 4-3. ???? move on get John back and move on. Vida 90 min? Nice to be up 5-2 take him off with 15 mins to go?
@Zibbie
Tease all you what pal. I can take it from those that appreciate my ass.
Turn the clock back 20 months, SAF and Rooney in that 24 hour period. OK lad badly said but I get it. Going rate for you is 200K a week they under bid you by some 50k a week. Then your stupid ass agent got your ear and you said stupid shit to the press. But as far as ambition goes, give me 18 moths and you will see AMBITION BITCH!!! . sssoorrsssoorrryyyy sssiiirrrrr , OK Wayne now go tell GNev. Say sorry to all in the looker room and all MUFC employees and FANS and move on, get your ankle healthy , Berba and Nani will keep us close you close it out. OK boss.
2-0 fuck,
Wigan starting another season on fire. Mugs.
Jackass almost back passed it to Torres in front of goal! Dafuq’s going on?
Costas – perennial #17s then.
And that monsieur Hazard is a very warm welcome to the Barclays premier league, British style
Costas,
I will tell it in the nicest possible way,
you got lovely ass my friend
anyway you can take those that appreciate your ass
ROFL
@Sandeep
The way this conversation is going, ROM will get even weirder today than it did yesterday.
@Atin
Most definitely. Good thing we are not playing them during the last 2 months of the season this time. That’s usually when they wake up.
So I see a problem brewing, Cedars has laid claim to Kagawa, right. Now MUFC has RVP. He can not have 2 players as his man crush. It is in the bilaws.
Prospecting , proctology. Ass Man? Nice ass man. yes could go wild. I see Kebabs point.
oooohh Costner can i have a look at you ass… xx
roflmao
Dr Dread,
Longtime reader ,m 1st time writing in.
I’m 22 and my husband gets better orgasmic why spanking his own meat. Should I be worried about my phallacio technique
Costas a curse or a blessing? He has such a nice ass, he is one of those guys who with a quick glance gets a OH YES from other men, till they scan up and see he is a dude.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2190535/Manchester-City-bid-Lionel-Messi-accident.html
How big are these jack”asses”
Apart from being 2 down I thought Wigan actually did very well. A bit more class / composure in the final third and they could be OK.
Hello everyone
Just got back from toasting my self at the beach……….I got my PLTV back, and guess who they have in the studio for the renties match? Robbo, yes Robbo……
What is this I am reading about Costas’s ass?
He has a nice one.
With Rio getting injured Utd;s only option will be to start Carrick at centre half i guess,i do not buy into the fact Utd’s medical staff are under par,find the whole suggestion silly to be honest.
CLLC just fell over like a bloody tooth pick
Hello My Dick
bollocks to all this fucking waiting….. why the fuck do we have to play on Monday night ffs
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2012/Aug/video_preview_for_manchester_united_season_201213.aspx
“I’m a winner…”
Says it all, Sir Alex. Says it all.
Hi buddy!
So who will be yours, Kagawa or RVP? no hurry mind you.
To be fair to Wigan they are playing well…….
wayne
Do not mention the medical team mate, you’ll have Costas after you!
Lol Cedars i know mate
Cedars
Robbo’s sister lives in my home city Adelaide, South Australia. He visits regularly and once came to the club I was senior coach at, but no fucker told me he was there because it was my day off. Was I pissed or what. Hopefully one day I will have the honour to meet the man and get my Bryan Robson book signed.
On our CB predicament, I think it is better if we play Keane and keep Carrick in MF. Maybe Evans will be ok to play but that would leave us with both Vida and Evans underdone.
The ranties only had 2 shots on target in the first 45 minutes but scored two goals
Hazard only completed 4 passes in those 45 minutes
Just read the stats on twitter, anyone watching?
Are they impressive
I see they are leading….
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Aug/sir-alex-ferguson-says-danny-welbeck-will-learn-from-robin-van-persie.aspx
SAF on Welbeck, at 24 Dan the Man to rule the PL!!! Until then enough games at the 9 and 10 to make him happy as well he can play on the wings as well. 25-30 games a year.
Rooney still only 29, shit has he been around for ever, 10 years, now. He might turn out to be a player yet.
Robbo
Funnily enough I met Robson at his book signing ceremony at OT back in 07 or 08 cannot remember. I was not coherent in my conversation with him at all, I was just blabbering. I could not believe that I had shaken the hand of my all time favourite United player
As for you, what a thing to miss, but I am sure he will be back to visit his sister…..Just stay on RED alert pal
Team GB’s Paralympic football team’s final preparation match didn’t go all to plan yesterday, as they were comfortably beaten 3-0 by West Brom.
Kaka! In your middle aged dreams….
RVP good stuff, when he and Rooney are on the pitch when a penalty happens, who takes the shot?
http://www.manutd.com/en/RobinVanPersieLanding.aspx
United bought Van Persie, the best man in EPL last season and Kagawa, the best man in Bundesliga last season for £34 million combined………..
Liverpool bought Andy Carrol for £35 million, the best man in his brothers wedding.
Zibbie says:
RVP good stuff, when he and Rooney are on the pitch when a penalty happens, who takes the shot?
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Cedars will …all over the TV screen …..and from 10 yards …
Mr Bee
You funny fuck, loved the Liverpool dig, actually loved both digs……. By the way, sent you an email you senile old fool
TonyBee
Almost as funny as watching the dippers v WBA yesterday! Fuckin funny.
OFF TOPIC….
Why aint that cunt Terry been fucking banned yet….they done Suarez up pretty quick …. but the Captain Cunt saga seems to be dragging on a bit don’t it….
Rooney not the greatest penalty taker in the world,be interesting to see if he’ll relinquish that to RVP
Tony Bee: It’s all part of the ABU conspiracy mate. Make sure everyone gets to see United at the bottom of the table for at least 24 hours. But then, if we get the 3 points, it will be all over with that bit of fun
forgive me Father for I have sinned……..
OH BY THE WAY …BEEN PROMISED A TICKET ……. for the Reading game at the Madjeski…..
Kaka news beginning to break on Newsnow
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-08-19/man-utd-odds-on-to-sign-kaka/
Wigan played well. Just lacking the finish.
Willie that is so silly!!
I saw this as well, wtf?
Tree, I have met Presidents, actors, Senators, Gov, Rock Stars, OK nice. I’m fucking humping ass through Chicago O’Hara airport, literary 1 gate away from the longest haul there. As I have 10 mins to make my flight, walk running with my bags. I hear a shriek, then like black women can get loud!?! And happy , I look to where there eyes are, it is him, Walter Payton. A Chicago Bear running back. One of if not my favorite player ever. So slick walking along the wall. I slow a little. Our eyes meat and I glow. And mutter and say like WOW WHT TH UCK! Then say unbelievable it is Sweetness, his nickname. He smiles ear to ear as I thunder by. I was so happy for days.
The thing is he was a great man as well, Great for the black man, he was big in business, off the field stuff.
Watch him at 5’10 205lbs run people over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBk9YaTBo10
Mr Bee
That should be a blast mate……..Enjoy it and sing your heart out for the lads
Regarding the penalty debate, Rooney tries to place it, RVP just blasts it, as for me I just shoot all over the place
What is the tosh about Dembele and Kaka.
WEAREUNITED! WEDOWHATWEWHAT!! But we don’t seem to ever sign midfielders
Personally think Berba would be a better midfield option than Kaka for the money. . .
Honestly. . . journos will write anything to sell some news.
Wayne – 1/2 now? With skybet.
Still think it’s shite, though.
@cedarsdevil
MATE according to ogden rio injured on friday.rio says on saturday he is watching football after training according to his twitter account.I SMELL SHIT.
apparently this agent 153 who is mostly right on twitter thinks we have wrapped up kaka.
KAKA RUMOURS ALL OVER TWATTER
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/twitter-goes-mad-for-rumour-that-manchester-united-are-signing-ka
50 shades hi mate was just checking low as 1/3 with some bookies
if KAKA comes to UTD….. will it mean the end for NANI…FUCKING HOPE SO…..
What would Nani be worth….if he were wanted by say….. a La Liga team ……20-30mil?
Me as well Willie, just saw that????
Kaka rumor is poopoo, if not I have shit all over me, and the weird thing is I don’t mind it. Now I’m not into that type of thing BUT!?
Kaka before Cr7 and Messi ruled football, Kaka ran over CR7 to win the CL, then on that 3 CL title game run in 5 years he willed Brazil to the African Cup thing pre WC. Played hurt and has never been the same. BUTT!! I like big BUTTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ImZTwYwCug
Loan deal for kaka is perfect ,just pay the wage
The fact that Rio hasn’t said that he is injured on twitter does not mean that he fit to play. Saf repeated the fact that no manutd player speaks about united related stuff on twatter during the rvp presser. Twitter is a load of shit, but sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if rio indeed is out for a month.
Kaka’s move to Real has been a total bust,he’d be better off getting the fuck out,weird how good players turn bad their
Back 4 and keeper
Tony V Carrick/Clevs—Kagawa
———Kaka–Rooney—-
————RVP———
Welbeck on wings and #9 and #10 cover for 25 games.
Come on you saints!
Zibbie – Are you ready for MNF?
another rumour
according to reports we are trying to sign Hector Herrera of mexico
Wayne Kaka one of my favs, Real to dark for a man of God.
He was hurt and never healed proper. Played hurt and got more injured , that is what Wazza did with his ankle, that BM CL semi game, he came back to soon re injured worse, then not till the next Feb was he right. You can get injured a lot, but only heal correct once.
@passe
mate he didnt say abt injury .he said he trained yesterday.thats all.
Just got a text from my nephew in the UK telling me the Kaka deal is done! Bloody fucking hell, if true I am jumping over a bridge with happiness. I do not think I can handle Kaka, Kagawa and RvP all on the pitch at the same time
I hate the Rentboys and Bitters so much can barely stand to watch them,Rentboys went 2 up that was it be the same with those other blue cunts.Everytime Bobby Manc opens his mouth just want to pound on the smug cunt
To ready mate, Hank and the boyz are here already. Fuckers eat and drink every thing!
Anyone hoping that Nani is shipped out needs to get their head checked. Along with Kagawa, he is technically so much superior to our other players it isn’t funny. In today’s market, Nani is one player we probably wouldn’t be able to get and that’s why we should just try to make him stay.
Wayne and of course he is ESPN’S #1 color guy!!!!!!!!
Fuck!!!
ESPN has PL on the flag ship this year not ESPN2, it is moved to ESPN!!!! a big sign of things to come.
Kaka, on his way? And people laugh at me dick, when I say Rooney for LB!!! MMMUUUHHHAAAHHHAAA
wayne
I concur! Watching wankini makes me sick, what a snide daft fuck
LOL we aren’t signing kaka. That’s a joke surely. If it’s on loan then i’d be happy but a permanent deal? NO WAY JOSE. I’ve heard that Fergie’s looking at a defensive midfielder. I’m happy with that. Also why are so many people leaving Nani out of their squads? He is our best winger and should be guaranteed a starting spot at Everton. I really hope he extends.
@cedardevil
KAKA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IS COMING
ACCORDING TO AGENT 153 AND AGENT 49
BUT NOT NOT COMING ACCORDING TO AGENT ARUN
Passe, I have been regularly checked since I was 3. Last check 5 years back, I’m the good kind of crazy. As I say I have been checked!
Of course. Sky had to get Niall Quinn on the city game. Jaysus.
Kaka? keep dreaming, one transfer that definitely won’t happen. If he leaves, he’ll return to ac milan. Brilliant player though, single handedly ripped united apart in the two legs of champions league matches.
@DANNYSOYA
MAYBE KAKA IS THE NEW LEFT BACK
Kaka as a CDM?
Dickgood gets a start?
Arum, no way. Rooney move to left back. Gets 24 yellows and 3 reds. Adds bite with Vida to the back 4!
pretty sure nani will sign a new deal. Some obviously want him out but i can’t base that on footballing reasons. i’ve always mentioned his qualities and how he’s superior to most players in the united squad and i don’t have to repeat that. A match winner, united don’t have a lot of those at the moment.
ARUN
Not read anything about it mate and furthermore I am not on twitter…… All I have is the text I got from my nephew
Hi Sam, A smoke screen as SAF makes behind moves for his one guy, his one position! He has positioned himself for the signing!
@zibbie
SERIOUSLY some body pls tell me if rio got injured on friday then how come he trained on saturday
Don’t think the rumor is out of the realms of possiblity,Kaka doesn’t appear to be in Maureens plans i’m sure the player would jump at the chance to join Utd.Also give Utd’s medical staff more practice in treating injuries lol
KAKA TODAY AND MESSI TOMOROW
glazeers are the new sugar daddies in the market
Cedars, it all depends on him, his next adopted child. Messi? Maldini?
We don’t need Kaka or anyone else, number 20′s in the bag. MOTD last night Alan “you win nothing with kids” Hansen, and Alan “highly successful Newcastle manager” Shearer, both tipped the bitters for the title. Bobby Wankini must feel cursed being made favourites by that pair of fuckwits. Red Nev pisses all over them.
Zib – yeah, you could be right. We’ll see.
Kaka and Kagawa are the same type of players. Why do we need him? Unless, Kaka will provide back up for Kagawa and SAF target is to win in all competition.
Zibbie – Kagawa in the middle is not as good as Kagawa in second striker if we refered to Hannover game. You see him and Rooney one-two passing and score? That’s where Kagawa is best playing, and also best position for Kaka.
SAF is saying so much with words and actions, live this, enjoy this. For he is saying he has 2 years left. His last great team now has a mature RVP, Rooney hitting his prime, Capto Vida, Carrick and the 2 playing ICONS of the game to teach the fledglings. If Kaka is signed maybe his last year. See it , be it.
Hello Cedars pls dont jump over the bridge haha! Twitter can be fun at times with stories flying about.
hope nani will sign a new deal
kaka is finished,hope we can add baines and dembele
wit sel & baines would be a dream for me,witsel is what we need in cm
Passe
You can add me to the list of those who need their heads examined mate. If Nani leaves I for one will not lose any sleep over it
Aguero down already, hoping for a cruciate ligament.
Kunt Augero could be in a bit of bother, looks like a knee injury.
Aguero just got plastered…………Great tackle though
LOL Kun injured
Opening day injury ro-berrrrrrrrr-to? 
And balo looks like a duck waddling, jogging in those yellow boots!
Sometimes twitter rumour can turn into reality. Can someone circulate news on twitter about Pirlo signing for United, PLEASE?
Just twitter stuff for now, as all moves start somewhere. Most rumors are just that.
SAF has cards to play if he wishes.
We all have a wish list. Varne was mine last year. As well Sanchez , swing miss.
This year when I 1st heard of the Kagawa link, I was all for it, saw him 10+ times last year. I get what you say. But SAF has earned his choice. I for one back it who ever it may or may not be. GO SAF!!
The way his knee twisted it very well could be a ligament or 2. Hope Southampton takes out Kompany and Toure next.
Kaka, pirlo.. stop with the fantasy football thing. This rumour probably got started by a couple of muppets. Happens all the time on twitter. FERGIE might buy again, but may not be a well known name.
Aguero off, nothing trivial I hope.
JC
You nasty fuck! I like your style
No RvP and Ageuro crocked for at least a month looking at them pictures combined with Mankinis little face = hahahahahahah
My vote Komany
Fuck YESSSSSSS Missed penalty
Northwalesred and JC take the cake with their wishes
and the spanish twat misses 
commentator: “what a dreadful penalty!”, “thats just awful”
Wow what a penalty you cunt, laugh.
JC in daHouse!
samuel-united We stand.
I was at that game at Old Trafford and as I recall it was Gattuso in the engine room who did the donkey work.Sure Kaka finished it of but I am convinced if Gattuso had stayed on the field we would not have got a result that night.It was the main reason I was so pleased we got Tevez I was sure we had our own Gattuso,how wrong can you be.
Who wants to take a bet that Mancini says “United are most definitely the favourites now that Aguero is injured and Silva missed a penalty” at the end of the match?
Cedars
Just hoping that the scales balance out this year.
Teves on psych med’s? Lippo suction?
What a save by peter shilton!
Football karma. Nobody fucks with United you Kun..t
Honestly I hope the FA reverses their rule banning snoods and forces the cunTevez to wear one…
Come on Kompany can have the nicest pulled hammy, 4 weeks then a tweak another 6 weeks.
Come on Southampton!
united.george
Peter Shilton? haha. Put a smile on my face
Dembele is a quality player but how serious is FERGIE really about trying to sign him? doubt there’s much interest there.
Secondly, he’s not an ‘enforcer’. Always seen him as a creative midfielder but he has power and could be moulded into a complete central midfielder.
Who’s the Soton coach/ mgr? Looks more like an NBA head coach than an EPL manager
Actually I’ll vote for Kompany too, Toure’s form so far has been dreadful, giving the ball away looks disinterested shying away from tackles.
Sam your guess as good or better then mine.
back 4 and keeper
—–Carrick–Clevs/Scholes
Kaka—-Kagawa—Rooney—
———–RVP———–
Not sure who the commentators are but loved the comment about the penalty. If you feel contact you can expect the man to go down.
So now it is ok to go down when slight contact is made but when Young has the contact it is diving, funny that!
Why are other always claiming united have an ageing squad? we have a couple of players that will be phased out soon, we have players capable of taking their places if they fulfill their potential. A team needs a mixture of experience and youth, i’m baffled.
Zibbie – with the “injury” to Rio, you want to take any guesses on the back 4 as well?
Are there only 2 songs city fans sing? It is either mancini or blue moon….
Parry – agreed. Gattuso lacked in technique but he made up for it with immense workrate, tackling e.t.c. He intimated players on the pitch with his bull like approach to the game and did most of the efficient job that most won’t notice in that game.
Tony V–Kid(Keane or Wootton)–Vida–Evra Carrick in front to shield, Tony V to stay home for 65 mins. Vida at his side. Evra to make runs at the right time.
Rio out with a groin. Jones out for a month to rest back injury, not sure if 1 month from Friday or 1 month from when he first was sent home from Germany.
My back 4
Raphael Evans Vidic Evra
united.george
They also do the Posnan, which of course they created
Clear fucking off side, here we go again
Sam that type of player is my fav, next to Wazza. Fletcher is my man, SAF and Keane were my favs as I became a MUFC fan. Italy Pirlo, Gattuso and Toti oh my! Cannavaro at their backs. That WC he was magic.
Goodness me, can’t envisage city going through another fucking season unbeaten at home.
Twevez scores….. come on you useless Saints!! (no disrespect to Saints intended)
Judas bollox scores for the scoundrels.
Shite, offside, keeper beaten on near post, Scarface scores….I’m off to bed.
Samuel, Hope we go in an flomax that idea on Dec 8!
Zib – yup, will be interesting to see if fletch can ever return to his best. His performance away to arsenal in the champions league was one of his best until he got unfairly sent off. ability to cover every blade of grass is his main asset, if he can regain that then he’ll bolster the squad. He’s been getting matches with the under 21′s and that may help but time will tell.
Samuel
I know you and I have had a few run ins on here, but that is the past. When the season starts you always put a smile on my face…….Forever the nervous Sam as I always called you
Ok it’s bad enough having to watch City,i have no issues with Alternative lifestyles but when a commenter starts talking about how many big muscular players City have and then starts naming them,please i’ve just had breakfast
Willie I joke, but I think he got some med’s to help his head.
FletchTheMan – hope so, but it will be really difficult. They seem to have this extra determination at home and everything goes their way but we now have the fire power to potentially dismantle their back-line, even with kompany playing.
Cedars, actually sheik mansour has paid lech poznan to call it “the city” from now on….
The human advertising board has scored one.
Soppy Cedars.
Hate to be cunt, but hope Kun is out for a while.
Giggs speaks,
people listen.
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2012/08/19/3317316/manchester-united-veteran-giggs-hails-mouth-watering-van
Cedars – past is the past and grudges should be thrown aside. we all show passion for united. We agree and disagree but all in the sake of seeing united succeed.
Regarding the nervousness, i agree. I can’t remember the last time i relaxed watching united. ha!
Soppy seconds?
Tevez almost quit City and threatened not to play for them and yet he plays for them. Tevez and city are made for each other.
.
Ok I am going to say it city are not going to win the league. You heard it first here
No Kun Cunt are you.
Thats right Zibbie when i speak people listen………
Rodwell is vastly over rated imho, he is a very nice footballer but will he play week in week out? Absolutely no chance he is only starting today as its the saints at home and Mancini will be trying to prove a point.
Sinclair will be going the same, why cant they see what has happened to Adam Johnson?
Saints still in this. Fixated on United, I am. Is Rio fit? Will RvP play? Can we ever get through this injury curse? What is the itch on my foot? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Can we boo RVP next game?
I hear he stands to gain £10m in bonuses at the end of his contract if we win trophies etc. Like Tevez’s £9m bonus last year.
Lets boo him
WillieRedNut 2 17:08: “Saints still in this.”
NOT if the linesman makes calls like that – Tevez was off-sides, according to the rules but, as we’re continually reminded, there’s one set of rules for the big clubs and another for the small ones; just like the booking that Fwank didn’t get when he scythed down the Wigan player right in front of the referee earlier today.
The majority of the goals we conceeded last season weren’t because we didn’t have a “midfield enforcer” but because Patrice Evra is shit at LB these days, I looked at the games we lost for my blog. 4 of the 6 goals we conceded against Man City came from crosses, 3 of which came from Evra’s side. Basel, United concede twice from crosses, one of which is on Evra’s side. Everton at home, United concede 3 goals from crosses. Even now off the top of my head I remember Chelsea going 1 goal up in the 3-3 draw because Sturridge beat Evra in a one on one, he gets beaten so easily. It doesn’t help that the winger on that left side is right footed, so he plays narrower leaving space in behind him. Plus, how many times were United beaten because they switched off for a moment. Also, I keep on saying it United’s 4-4-1-1 is outdated, with only 2 centre midfielders is it any surprise they get overrun in the middle of the park. 4-2-3-1 if played correctly is better. It gives way more passing options to the centre midfielders. Do you think Atletic Bilbao are a better team than United, no technically United are the far superior side, but Bilbao play a better game than United.
50 if the itch is a shade of green could be a Phun Gus.
If kaka does come i think he will play the deep lying midfield role.. He doesnt have the same pace as before, but still class with the ball and has is a great passer.. Might be the perfect foil for carrick if it does happen.. Might also help anderson become more professional.. Lets see..
If kaka signs we could play
Keeper
Back 4
Kaka carrick
Valencia rooney kagawa
RVP
Now thats a very very potent side..
Kaka story is cack!
Zibbie – Hope not! that sounds horrible.
Clichy wearing a disguise….could not recognize him.
Kaka will reinvent himself at United as a central defender. You heard it here first.
Giggs12
When you speak people listen? No mate you bounce and sing then we all listen
Sometimes you have to throw young players in at the deep end. Everton away is not the game to do that.
So I say Sam is cross with Patrick, propensity to let in crosses.
Ok, guillem balague just tweeted that the kaka rumors are complete crap..
Damn. .
Cedars
Fucking right mate I’m all ready bouncing ahead of.match day. No more gardening, fence painting, fucking shopping on a weekend.
United united united
As the reds go marching on on on
Laaaaaaaammmmmbert!!!!!!!
Goal! Lambert!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In your face hockers!
Lambert you beauty
Ricky lambert scores, lets hope the twats drop points now,,
Told you the Saints were still in this lol.
RICKY LAMBERT 1-1 Saints BEAUTIE…. Hahaha Get in you Saints!!!!
Giggs12
I am so pumped up mate, I could crush a leeds fan like a cockroach
Ricky Lambert 96 goals over the past 3 seasons… I know it wasn’t Premier League but good lord thats a bundle.
Fortress Emptyad!!! WHAT ?!
Rickie!!!!! also, clyne and fonte have been class!!!
Willie – i agree, goodison is a difficult place to go, especially with Rooney playing (will get the routine abuse he normally gets) we need to make a choice, michael carrick at centre half against jelavic and fellaini or a youngster that knows the position? dilemma that i really to hate to have.
Yeah Clyne might be an option if he were a LB instead of RB.
Hoping evans will be fit for this one.
Ricky Lambert, quality football Soton!
Now, give us one more like that. :cool
Davis!
1-2 Southampton!!!!
Weeeeeeeeee……
Fuck you Shitty hahaha
Willie has the luck of the Irish.
Go saints!!!!!!!!!
The bitters
Saintssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss gooooooooooooooooooooo marchingggggggggggggggggggggggggggg innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
For opening game after winning the prem seems to be a lot of empty seats at City or is that just City fans dressed in blue blending with the seats
STEVIE DAVIS YOU BEAUTIE!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Biters down 1-2 GetIn you Saints LaLalala
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Gary Neville can’t hold back his feelings.
DAAAVIISSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a finish!!!!!!!!! Well played Rodwell!!!
wayne didnt you hear? they had a promotion giving away blue plastic garbage bags before the game.
The monster coming on
Rodwell… what a purchase, what a coup by Mancunti, we dodged a bullet there.
HOLY FUCK!!! WHAT A GAME!!!! but you just get that feeling that City are gonna score soon. Hopefully i’m wrong.
Fuck!!
Sloppy
You hear RedknappJr going on aboutt Saints going againts quality of the “likes of Rodwell”…… Ya mate….. That’s tried and true quality innit!
Howard Webb doing everything he can now to get chity back into the game I see.
Come on Saints…. Get a bleepin boot in! This is fun.
This is so open, it’s scary. You can get at city. Great going forward, but they leak a few. Southampton giving as good as they get!
Costas –
Agreed about evra, patrice is still wonderful going forward but he has lost that extra hunger and combative side that we all hail him for. Between 2006 to the world cup 2010, pat was the best left back in the world. rarely ever see him get beaten but these days, he gets caught out and wingers get more joy against him. I wonder if a lack of serious competition has made him complacent or all the problems he’s been through (Lost a member of his family, suarezRacistCUNTgate, going on strike for france, getting banned and then returning, getting accused of disrespecting france because he sat on their “Le bluurr” shirt, e.t.c). I agree that he definitely needs competition, a player capable of dislodging him.
Fuck my stupid mouth. GRRR.
Southampton with plenty of spunk today but the defending on that corner when Dzeko (another striker who wants out of chity lol) scored was dreadful.
Evening tit fuckers
,
So the Saints are having a real go ha.
don’t know why but i think the bitter cunts will snatch this one..
I should just quit talking…. lol headed back into the box by the defender right to Nasiri’s foot wtf
Nasri scores. Cunts!
fuck… good effort by the saints though. Someone needs to take charge in that defence.
Ah well Saints….. click
Moving on:
LB anyone:
Mohamed Moallim @jouracule
Alexander Büttner (very good left-back) to Man Utd from Vitesse subject to a medical which takes place tommorow. [de gelderlander]
This game looks familiar…
Southampton are rolling over. Handing City the goals on a platter.
Former Ajax youth player 5’9″
I fucking despise Nasri.
Looks like we have signed a left back..
Alexander butner from vitnesse. Netherlands
DaBomb works at the hospital or his wife, a golf friend, who’s next d bomb?
mancdub – second that feeling. hope you’re better now.
Watching this match, I can understand why the media were so full of this clyne thing. He does seem a good player. Moving onward’s with the ball at all times. Defends well as well.
Fuck lot of ugly cunts on city’s team
There you go..
my bad luck..
Do not give a rat’s ass what the bitters do……Besides its Fulham we have to worry about, they are top of the table!
Büttner from Vitesse to Manchester United:
Former Ajax youthplayer for medical at ManchesterUnited as early as tomorrow. 5’9″ Left back #MUFC
http://www.gelderlander.nl/sport/
Nasri….what a legend !
“Eid Mubarak”….he deserves it, probably fasted the whole of Ramadan if he’s celebrating Eid as most of my muslim pals are.
We actually bought a left back.. Wow.
Eric keane – how reliable is that rumour?
Translation from the Dutch:
ARNHEM – Alexander Büttner trades Vitesse for Manchester United.
The deal between the two clubs, according to sources close to the club and the player around. Both parties give no response. Büttner must still undergo a medical examination at the club from Manchester. Which would take place Monday already. Vitesse was Friday miljoenenbod of club Manchester United on the 23-year-old Does Inch Bucket and had to decide this weekend. Büttner has already agreed with his ‘dream club’. He will be teammate of fellow countryman Robin van Persie, who moved from Arsenal for the Mancunians . Earlier Büttner seemed to go to Southampton, but that deal fell through because of a dispute over an additional commission. Of this, the deal with Manchester no question.
Samuel.. Dutch papers reporting its a done deal. Medical tomorrow
Have no clue about this guy.
A left back? A most welcome addition.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2171521/Southampton-deal-Alexander-Buttner-falls-mystery-party.html
Earlier report from the dailymail. Seems like we are the mystery club who hijack this lad from right under the nose of soton. Must be 3rd or 4th choice LB from our scouting list i suppose.
Well played southampton
Better luck next time
Costas – You must be happy?
Buetner can switch between LB and LWB, trained at ajax, very disciplined, thought of highly, almost made holland euro squad. He is a potent attacking threat. Via mohammed moalim, joracule
FTM,
Evening mate,
so we have signed a LB at last?
anything official pal?
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Cedars,
Yeah mate, this season, all we need to do is look at ourselves, we gotta be at our killing best during the next 10 months..no room for slip ups..
Mattbw7 and company where are you guyz now?How come no one seems to hear none of y’all naysayings when SAF pulls off miracles as he did with the RVP signing right under the noses of shitty?Plz get a grip on yourselves and let the BOSS build his one last legacy in peace.At least now no one can claim SAF doesn’t spend or splurge.Let’s all row in one direction.Battle away against the Glazers if you must just leave SAF out of it.Apologise for calling him names.It is because of SAF that we keep our shine and keep attracting the cream of football’s finest.He got rid of Tevez cos he does not fit the above description.If Wazza brought the game into disrepute by his obnoxious goal celebrations,tevez did a million times worse at shitty and still goes about scot free.We can’t therefore afford to provide more headaches for SAF in ADDITION to that which he already gets from the abu FA,media and public.It’s a shame that I have to write such a verbose appeal to fellow Utd fans yet needs must.Welcome RVP20:20.Roll on the Quadruple.
Mattbw7 and company where are you guyz now?How come no one seems to hear none of y’all naysayings when SAF pulls off miracles as he did with the RVP signing right under the noses of shitty?Plz get a grip on yourselves and let the BOSS build his one last legacy in peace.At least now no one can claim SAF doesn’t spend or splurge.Let’s all row in one direction.Battle away against the Glazers if you must just leave SAF out of it.Apologise for calling him names.It is because of SAF that we keep our shine and keep attracting the cream of football’s finest.He got rid of Tevez cos he does not fit the above description.If Wazza brought the game into disrepute by his obnoxious goal celebrations,tevez did a million times worse at shitty and still goes about scot free.We can’t therefore afford to provide more headaches for SAF in ADDITION to that which he already gets from the abu FA,media and public.It’s a shame that I have to write such a verbose appeal to fellow Utd fans yet needs must.Welcome RVP20:20.Roll on the Quadruple.
eric keane – let’s hope it’s true, the deal has not spread all over the net yet.
Left Back? I think you mean Leighton Baines….fucking foreigners
Now its time to see how Evra will react on the pitch..
@Willie
If it means not seeing Giggs at left back, yes!
Evra is still better than this player. He originally had agreed to terms and a transfer to Southhampton ten days or so ago, then a ‘third party’ (Manchester United) intervened and the transfer was haulted/off. He plays left back, but can play either fullback position. He’s need and welcomed depth. Once Jones is fit, Jones will be playing CB along with Evans and the usual CBs.
Papii,
fuck you for your “Indian accent” comment
daemondada,
well said pal, may be they have fucked right off the earth after we signed RVP..
they were asking for a world class name, we got one, over all 64 million spent on RVP in the next 4 years,
May be they think Sir Alex pocketed something out of this deal as well?
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Willie,
Costas is more surprised than happy
Maybe buetner is fondly called kaka.. Thats what all the itk’s wereon about on twitter
New thread up you daft fucks
Buttner
Lets buy a midfield called Dickson Etuhu Next
or maybe
Rod Fanni for Right Back….but if that falls through Danny Shittu will suffice.
More on Alexander Büttner to United rumor!
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/media-in-holland-say-manchester-united-have-agreed-a-deal-to-sign
lb you say. nap time.
Costas,
The world is short of quality left backs you see
Nasri is a an absolute cock revealing that shirt. I know messages are banned full stop but religious messages wind me up to no ends. The moment people start thinking for themselves rather than putting their faith in fabricated myths the better this world will be.
A little buddy for RvP?
Clint….. Remember a couple months back when we were linked with U19 keeper Butland. That never made much sense. At least this does make some sense even if all quiet from the club.
Would have made for some iffy play by play
From wikipedia:
On 18 August Büttner joined Manchester United on a deal believed to be worth 50 pence.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Büttner
50 pence! LOL
Great stats though.
So, rumour or real?
Sandeep Cheers. Missed your post….
In response…. the has been utterly, positively, and absolutely nothing ….. and that’s Official
FTM,
Ha ha ha, couldnt have been more authentically official than how you put it
Buttnear? I hear butt? Butt, Buttercup, No Butts about it, Butt I told you so. I like Butts , big ones at that. I know we need a LB Butt?
This is a LeftBack???…… interesting?!
Goal by rumored United signing Alexandre Buttner…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVrWqvIKZYI
Dear sammy.It was with heavy heart that I posted what I did.Sorry for the double post.It shouldn’t be so.Yet we still see the need to fight for SAF against OUR own ppl.Sad.Well,glad we still breathe and play the BEST football on the planet.At least they can’t begrudge SAF that.Take care brother.Salaam.
Voetbal International say it is official?!
Twitter
VI @VI_nl
OFFICIEEL – Alexander Büttner verruilt Vitesse voor Manchester United. Verdediger heeft transfer zojuist bevestigd tegenover VI.
Translated:
OFFICIAL – Alexander Büttner trades Vitesse for Manchester United. Transfer Defender has just confirmed against VI.
So its another butt signed for United??
Great stats, 107 games, 10 goals.
The lad Alexander Büttner has reported been contacted and confirmed the transfer has been agreed, pending a medical this week.
And he can play right back!
Hopefully real news!
Sandy that was addressed to you.Thank you.
Giggs 12 Stevie Me Feck All,
Saw your song on another thread… Superb lad- to the tune of ‘white Pele’.
Mate, you almost had it perfect I reckon- hope you don’t mind that I’ve amended your blinding little rhyme- your track, CBT remix (ish)
As I said, in the style of ‘white Pele’:
Mancini, said to van Persie,
“Do you want to sign, for man city?”
“No” said Rob, “I’m a fucking red-
The city is yours? You must be off yer head”
Van Persie, Van Persie, he said fuck off,
To Man City!
Less than 24 hours boys and girls…
United, always.