In the hopes that Michael Carrick is an avid reader of RoM, why weren’t you playing today against Birmingham?
Darren Fletcher and Paul Scholes started in the centre of our midfield, with Gisbon and Anderson preferred to Carrick on the bench.
“There’s no injury to Michael Carrick. You’ll have to ask him why he’s out,” Ferguson is reported as saying on ESPN, before claiming Rio will be out for the next few weeks with his thigh injury, Jonny Evans is having a problem with his ankle and Nemanja Vidic is still off.
So what could Carrick have done?
1. Talking to another club behind our back
First team football for the Champions of England and he doesn’t seem the sort to let even City’s money tempt him.
2. Turning up late for training
Hungover from the night before, rolling up late at Carrington with shades on and telling the manager to chill out. Nah, probably not.
3. Having it away with Cathy
I think Lady Ferguson probably only has eyes for Sir Alex.
So, I’m pretty clueless on this one. Any ideas?
He told Sky he wanted to try a different combination – which means Carrick’s been a very naughty boy
Perhaps he took umbrage at SAF for telling he has been p[laying like a prick pre-season
I would think it’s the second option.. but if it was a training incident SAF would probably say it (would he ?).
I’m not sure if he can move to a bigger club and stay in the EPL at the same time to get a place in the national squad for the world cup.
Now that leaves me with the third option … lol
That’s a little strange answer by SAF. What could that have been? Not enough effort in training?
I was at Wembley for the Community Shield.
Carrick and Fergie had a real screaming match at each other at one point. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, but now……..
apparently its to do with carrick declaring himself fit in rome, and then playing like he wasnt.
It’s very unlike Ferguson to out a player like that. What the fuck has happened?
where is this quote from, scott?
@RedTilDead: Thanks for bringing that up. Carrick is such a cool customer. This is bizarre. But if a player shouts at SAF, then there is only going to be one outcome.
Won 2 grand on the horses yesterday. After the match today out of spite and drunken stupidity i put a grand on Spurs. Happy fucking days.
he never said “you’ll have to ask him” he said he wanted to try something different !
Ahh, perfect end to a sunday. We win 1-0, and the dippers get outplayed and beaten 2-1.
“There’s no injury to Michael Carrick. You’ll have to ask him why he’s out,” makes it sound like Fergie has humbled him after an exchange, and Carrick has now accepted his punishment.
He’d probably refuse to comment if it was still to be dealt with.
if Carrick is out.. than bring Van Der Vart in
Probably didn’t come back for training after the internationals. Anyway hope it does not jeopardise his position at the club. He is very important to us
Dippers lost!
hahaha buildabonfire, that’s brilliant
I hope Carrick hasn’t done anything that have upset Fergie.
Gman
Van der vart would cost around 5-9 million. So it would be a great buy.
Hahahah Liverpool lost. They scored from a penalty and STILL lost.
Looking very average without Alonso.
The quote is made up. Someone on redissue was on a wind-up. Before the match SAF said he was rotating midfielders. Carrick will play on Wednesday.
I really hope that whatever has happened will end here. Carrick is a vital part of the team and i know Fergie realizes it. I still can’t imagine him having a go at Ferguson. If that’s what’s happened.
Oh fuck. What the hell has Carrick done? He seems like a sensible enough lad. Hopefully its nothing serious. Fergie has mellowed a lot and it would have to be major for them to have a public falling out. I just have a sneaking suspicion it has something to do with England. Carrick lad, United > England. Don’t forget it.
off topic..
http://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main/2009/08/15/1441743/liverpool-will-win-premier-league-title-this-year-alan
wats e song, alan?
its bassong!!!!
hhaahaa fuckin stinkin dippers
SAF said that he wanted to try out another combination. It all seems to have been blow out of proportion. He’ll more than likely be in the starting line-up at Burnley.
I too was wondering about Carrick today. Can’t see him anywhere. Anyway, kinda appaling final touch for our guys today. My heart jumped for nothing the whole match. I could’ve died of cardiac arrest someday if all matches are like that. Glad that the dippers lost though.
Carrick out? Vdv in?
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Carrick in, Carrick out? Does it matter? After all it’s the dippers year this year! (again!) Well done Spurs!! PMSL
Carrick seems like a sensible and chilled out guy, I just can’t believe he has had a major conflict with Ferguson. We’re probably all just making a fuzz over nothing. Perhaps he was out because of something personal. I do not want him to leave, missed him today.
No clue why he wasn’t in, but I thought Scholes was great today. I imagine that he’ll feature mostly in the games (especially at home) against the bottom clubs. Because they defended so deeply, he had time and space to spray balls to each wing. Unfortunately he doesn’t have it left to complete against better clubs.
Anyway, his former club smashed Liverpool today, so at the moment I am very very happy! But, hope he hasn’t gone and done anything stupid that will jeopardize his United career… He is a great player for us and we really need him to step up the plate with some of his goals from midfield this season!
what is the point in even bringing up this article fergie was just rotating the CM. there is nowt to read into this one just giving games to the likes of scholes.
You’ve fallen for a WUM here. Fergie never said anything of the sort. Here’s the interview: http://www.skysports.com/video/clips/0,23791,12602_5494486,00.html
erm i dont think we really need him today. i am fine with SAF testing a new partnership today. at the end of the day, we still won, and it proves that SAF knew what he was doing. and i dont think there is any problem between SAF and Carrick.
I am more concerned with Evans limping out. We already lost Rio and Vida.
It’s a WUM.
Some guy made up the quote and ESPN ran with it.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123486
maybe he was tired from the england game?
he played about 45 mins but thats all i can think of other than those first 3.
I hope they havent had a tiff, he’s an important player
Seems about right. Can’t find the quote anywhere. Good news. I think we missed him today. He improves our build-up play a lot.
I truly hope it was crap!
Lads,
Just got back from the pub and to be honest there are a lot of fans that have knocked scholes but today i thought he was immence!
Today he showed how clever a player he is and how immence his distrubution is!
For me from todays performance
Foster – Did nothing wrong, Kicking was good and put in an assured performance
Fabio – Showed temendous ability but got caught out of position from timeto time.
Oshea – Shock for me but oshea was good today!! Well played fella!
Evans – Looked a little unsettled at times, but still held it togehter!#
Valencia – Clean perfoamance – Kept things simple most of the ime, cant fault it to be honest!
Fletcher! – Played well, actualy supprised at how good his passing is! Was the perfect foil for scholes today providing that extra energy! Shame he didnt score, but who cares when we won today!… Would have been a differnt story if we drew or lost! we all would have been moaning at that miss!
Scholes – For me he was immence! He bossed the midfield and ran the play controling the tempo and was focal point for most things today!
Nani – Imature performance, a little too cocky for me at times. By christ he needs to work on his corners. Seems a lot of the time to do 95% of things good then lets himself down by the end product! Final ball, playing a ball too early, playing it too late. Getting closed down and playing a panic ball!!
Berbatoc – Looked dangersous at times, great control and worked hard across birminghams back four.
Rooney – Was typlicaly rooney today, could have scored a couple. Looked to have that extra bit of confidence, from this performance i went to the bookies and bet he will be the premierships top goalscorer!!
Owen – Did what owen does best, sat on the last defender lo0oking for the through ball! Could have scored late on but i put that down to a good save from hart!
Giggs – good performance, kept it simple & tracked back like a teenager!” Was always looking for the throughball!!..
Brown- Didnt see too much of him to comment!Not a bad thing tho!!!!
GLAD WES was back today!!
I think he pulled a sickie after the england match and didnt train, when he was ok.
Bet you he was caught smoking weed or something, he looks like a weed head
Lies, damn lies, and statistics (FSW’s statistics). It’s that time of the season. United, chelsea and city, (via a goal from Ade-buy-me-please!?) win, liverpool lose to spurs, Wenger’s lot spank the toffees; isn’t it obvious the papers have nowt to talk about and are just looking for sensational news stories to fill the back page? lol.
Anyway, it’s BS. Personally I think it’s Fergie’s way of saying, Michael, you let us down in Rome. You’re not good enough to be guaranteed a start. Prove me wrong.
SAF : Fuckin hell Cathy!! What the fuck is carrick doing in my bed? He better be reading you a bedtime story!
Cathy : Calm down alec, i just got a good rogering. If you could still get it up, you’d be the one dishing it out.
SAF : Its fucking rectangular headed carrick for fucks sake!! If it were ronnie, that would be understandable…
Carrick : i’ll just leave you two to settle this. Erm… Sir, when’s the game again?
The last user needs to be banished!, Carricks face is beautiful!.
Just a load of bull, best passer of the ball we have and I hope he gets better he’s just a few notches away from being a world class player..
who cares..the dippers are already playing catch -up ! The Fat Waiter is whinging already and thres 37 games to go…love it
FFS, stop posting such rumors. it can make fans go against the player without the true facts.
Will probably play Carrick and Anderson on Wed. Our real concern is our defense… Brown and O’shea? Maybe Rio if he’s fit?
Fergie wanted to try somethink new so he could give carrick a rest after international games and other games
Wats d noise abt an unworthy lad,yes i say so,who ever cares 2listen shud.hw did we miss hm some1 shud cum out n tell.a neva aggresive lad(eng dutch game,lampard suffered whn carick came in).glad evry1 say fletch n scholesy were immerse.playin 4 4 2 saf nw knws we need mid men who wll close d oppositn nt a lazy lad.bet me if he doesnt sit up,he wll nt only lose his place in d squad bt wllnt go 2d world cup cos capelo picks hm cos of saf
FrankLuvsWazza:
You definitely read too much facebook man…
Let d truth b said,dnt tink fletch shud ever miss a game dis season cos of hw vital he is,pass well,can confidntly hold d ball wit out fear of d oppsitn,breaks in2 d oppsitn box wit ease,taks shots n tackles very well 4 90mins wat else do u wnt 4rm hm,scholesy at 34 does same,note fletch unda studies hm,scholes wll close u no mata ur statue makin u neva use d ball well.gibson n ando r young n wllin 2learn,dis’s their yr i c cos saf knws they r ready 4d task nt one lad who tinks he’s untouchable while he’s neva special even d lanky pirlo tackles,u cnt walk pass hm wit d ball.some1 shud tell carick 2sit up
i think we really missed carrick today, Scholes IMO seemed very nervous today, nearly always passing sideways, a few overcooked long balls forward (into the stands) and a couple of blocked shots, but he’s usually much better passing FORWARDS, so was a bit miffed as to why he wasn’t. Hopefully Carrick is back soon.
BTW: probably had some family problem….sick kids…sick wife/parents….etc etc…compassionate leave?
Aw I feel cheated ..
Carrick isn’t in the squad, well he must have done something wrong. NO. Fergie just wanted to try something new.
Fuck-a-doodle-doo people.
Not a great idea to run this without confirmation I’d have thought, last thing we need is stupid WUMs getting reported as fact and all sorts of speculation kicking off.
Can’t believe people are seriously suggesting replacing Carrick with van der Vaart either…
I think Michael Carrick would look great playing for Juve or A.C. Milan. Nice passing and no testosterone. Between Possebon, Ljajic and Cleverly, he’s going to be surplus to requirements soon.
I think the comment supposedly made by Fergie was made up. Cos soccernet does not have it there anymore. I guess they realised they got it wrong and took it off.
@ FrankLuvsWazza
There is something called proper punctuation mate….With all due respect, you run a great risk of people ignoring your posts mate with that kind of childish scribbling.
As for the topic, I think its a small training incident….he’ll probably be back soon enough. I think there is definitely something there because otherwise he would have at least kept him on the bench in case Scholes got injured or we needed to chase the game in the dying minutes…Anderson and Gibson are both short on experience in that respect….. I hope it gets sorted out soon because he’s a really good player although a bit lethargic at times. I dont think he has the same energy that Scholes had in his youth.
Cant wait to have Hargo back in that respect. And for those suggesting Van der Vaart….GET REAL!!!
Why would you want to sign a Real Madrid throwaway ?
In relation to Carrick . He will be back Wednesday. He was left out as part of the rotation system
Its smoke without fire. SAF was just trying a new formation.
Scott, you should conduct some factual research before you post bullshit articles such as this.
Fergie did not say “There’s no injury to Michael Carrick. You’ll have to ask him why he’s out”.
Then to post drivel speculation is the sort of thing we would expect from an ABU.
All I know is that its cost my fantasy football side valuable points. He needs re-instating immeadiately.
We need him back, scholes has been great but his legs have gone.
Untill hargreaves is back we should play anderson and flecther in the middle, with park and valenica out wide.
Our midfield is far from inspiring if i’m honest.
Maybe he knew that scholes would be as good as he was!! Could be a kick up the back side for carrick to ensure he sets his standards higher than last year.
Fergie has this great knack of getting the best out of players and using certain situations to imrpove them as a player.
The kidology is not only for Rival managers but used on our players also.
Scholes passing on Sunday was immaculate, controling the tempo of the game. In addition i was actualy supprised at how good fletchers distribution was also. He put accross some 30 – 40 yard diagonal balls which were perfect!
@jimmybob
I thought Scholes yesterday was immence, Legs have gone??? Maybe i was seeing things but he was tearing about the pitch like a man possessed.
Scholes still has something to give and will do a job for us this year!
What all this about Scholes being great yesterday?
NEWSFLASH!!!…he wasn’t.
He was far too sloppy yesterday. As was Giggsy when he came on.
Legends, but they can’t play for ever. Carrick should be in there instead of Scholes. Or Ando. These younger players need their runs in the team just as the young Scholes and Giggs had. We will never get the best out of them if we keep them in reserve too long.
Fletcher did ok, but he needs hobbling for missing that chance.
I can’t find any official reference to Fergie’s alledged comments about Carrick. Sounds like bollocks to me. If he had said it on ESPN it would surely be on their website? But it isn’t.
Fergie didn’t say “you’ll have to ask him”
A total fabrication put about on another internet forum.
Nice work Scotty.
Because Fergie has realised that Carrick really isn’t all that good? More worrying is why the hell wasn’t Anderson playing instead of Scholsey? Scholes is a legend but we need to be looking to the future with Anderson being our main main in midfield, he has it in him to be by far the best midfielder at the club.
God I miss the days of Becks, Keano, Scholsey and Giggsy in their prime – our current midfield is a disgrace in comparison.
what? dont compare carrick with fletcher or scholes they are not even in thesame league. carrick is world class
badger, we have three games inside the first week we will rotate our midfield and Birmingham at home is probably our easiest fixture of them all and Anderson has hardly perfomed over the past year.
Only because he doesn’t get played enough IMO Stephen. I really dont want us to rely on Scholes and Giggs for too long and make the same mistake as we did with Keano – they shouldn’t be stopping our younger players from developing.
You are right though, I expect we will see a lot of rotation, whether thats a good or bad thing is another matter entirely! lol
Badger @ 12:57. Right. Why wasn’t Anderson/Fletcherinho the midfield pairing ? Have these two EVER been played together ? Why not ?
About Scholes – he still has good ball control and great ability to keep off the defender BUT his passing wasn’t especially effective since it was – again – mostly sideways or else long and very, very optimistic diagonal balls that might have occasionally found their target but NEVER opened up the opposition. He’s still reckless in the tackle and that won’t change. He did get himself into one outstanding scoring position and then fucked it up. All-in-all, a sad epitaph to an outstanding career from the GingerNinja. He’s still Ginger but he ain’t no Ninja.
About Giggs – he’s still an effective player but I think he’s best used in situations where can float in the middle, backed up by a player with a better defensive game. It was pretty clear to me that once Nani was substituted by Giggs, Evra’s ability to drive down the left wing was largely blunted. That was no coincidence. Nani gets shat on a lot but he does provide danger – AND a left-footed cross yesterday. Giggs can’t play on the left wing with the same effectiveness and I’m not sure if Tosic is considered to be a ready-for-prime-time-player. Giggs’ versatility – and his residual speed – does provide him with a longer Indian Summer than Scholes but both of them are clearly getting quite long-in-the-tooth.
Simple – will play Carrick and Anderson on Wednesday. JSP on the right and maybe Tosic on the left. Giggs and Scholes on the bench
Manchester United centre-back Nemanja Vidic is reportedly on the radar of Barcelona and would love to play for the Spanish club one day, according to his agent.
Away to burnley, who will be right up for the game and will be running around like lunatics we need plenty of energy and a bit of dig in midfield
On current form fletcher is the best central midfielder at the club and must start (never thought i’d be typing that 2 years ago)
Play him and anderson in the middle , jsp on the left and valencia on the right.
Rooney and owen up front
whether Carrick plays or not is not very important…..we need a first class creative mid-fielder to take up Scholes’s role in future and carrick is not yet one of those….I like Van Der Vart, whose price is reasonable….
Fergie said nothing of the sort – when we’re up against the likes of Brum, at home, resting Carrick isn’t a bad idea, especially after an international. Thats why we have this world class squad, I dont expect Scholes to be starting against Arsenal, the dippers etc.
Fletcher still isnt convincing either as the ‘enforcer’, we need Harg back asap
he is one of the best midfielders in the world, we played Birmingham maybe he was just giving Shcoles a shot at the start of the season saving Carrick for some of the bigger teams we won the match well done Fergie and as for Fletcher he puts in a great performance every time hes United through and through anyone who doesnt like him will just have to deal with it hes a great attribute to the club COME ON JUST THE START WE NEEDED AFTER TO DRAWS THE LAST 2 SEASONS!!!!!
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