Jose Mourinho has no interest in bringing youth through. Jose Mourinho is entirely clueless in the transfer market (just compare the team he was given by Ranieri to the team he left Grant with). Jose Mourinho does not know how to be successful by playing attacking football. Yet alarmingly, some reds think he’s the man for the job because he’s got a big personality. No doubt, he’s got arrogance and he’s got a way with the press, but replacing Sir Alex Ferguson will be the biggest football appointment in the World ever, and it needs to be based on something more than a cocky glint in the eye.
Mourinho has always been successful because he was given great squads and gave them the self-belief they needed to be the best. But don’t forget how his Chelsea career ended, with his dismantling the great squad of Ranieri and replacing the likes of Robben with Malouda, Huth with Ben Haim and Boulahrouz, Gudjohnsen with Pizarro etc. as well as selling off almost every attacking midfielder and replacing them with defensive central midfielders.
With his personality came a nastry streak. He claimed he’d seen Frank Rikjaard enter referee Anders Frisk’s office at half time. Frisk received death threats from Chelsea fans and retired from his job, only for Mourinho to later confess he hadn’t seen anything. For all Ferguson’s big talk, can you imagine him lying about something like that?
Cristiano Ronaldo was shining brightly in the 06-07 season and as it began to came to an end, Chelsea unlikely to retain the title, Mourinho lashed out at the 21-year-old. He said he expected maturity from Ronaldo, then went on to slag Ronaldo off over his ‘difficult childhood’ and ‘lack of education’. For all Ferguson’s mind games, can you imagine him making digs about a young lad’s background and upbringing?
Mourinho is a big personality, no doubt, but he’s not a patch on Ferguson. Mourinho fancies himself as special, whilst Ferguson, who has won at least triple the amount of trophies Jose ever will, would never speak of himself that way. To compare them in any way, shape or form is entirely insulting to our brilliant manager.
“I have big jobs left in me that is for sure, but I can’t commit to which ones,” said Mourinho. “If you want me to rule out ever being Manchester United manager I can’t. Special clubs need special managers so in theory it could work. But nobody knows what the future is in football. The England national team wanted me as coach and that is the biggest job in England, so I am sure when Sir Alex retires they will look at the best managers in the world and I certainly fall into that category. How much time I can’t say, Sir Alex doesn’t look like he is ready to stop. But when you are managing a winning team you don’t want to stop. And if you have health then there is no reason to.”
Modest as always but his last season in England proved he wasn’t special. He proved that he couldn’t successfully make it through a transition period, which is the reason why all of Chelsea’s best players now are in their 30′s, as Mourinho did not plan for the future. He proved that when the competition improved, he couldn’t keep up with the pace. Michael Carrick was the only summer buy we made, whilst they added Ashley Cole, Ballack and Shevchenko to their title winning team, yet they were still eight points behind when the title was won by us.
I’ll be sick to my stomach if he becomes United manager and I hope however chummy Sir Alex is with him, he’ll be able to clearly see past that when trying to help us find who should fill his shoes. Sir Bobby Charlton and Bryan Robson are wise to TNSSO, so that is something at least. As if the Glazers coming in wasn’t bad enough, to then take away our attacking football and youth policy would be heartbreaking. Mourinho is not special, he certainly is not good enough for United, and the day he is even considered to replace Sir Alex Ferguson would be a very sad one indeed!
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Lol.Ever since i saw the news i was wondering what your reaction would be Scott.No need to panick.Football is a funny game.Who is to say that by the time SAF retires,Mourinho will be looking for a job.He might be tied down at a club like Madrid.Rio said something which i think was misunderstood.What did Mourinho do at Chelsea?He took the good side Ranieri had and made it great.Many feel that if Mourinho takes over SAF then he will keep the success going.He might be a solution for a couple of years but he is not the man for the job long term.Who is?No one knows.But at the moment i prefer him over Mark Hughes.
i agree.
but we shall have to wait and see. i fear that if SAF will want mourinho to replace him.
Excellent piece Scott agree with every word of it. Fergie’s current dynasty has taken years to build but could take a year to dismantle, and that ego inflated mouthpiece Mourinho would do just that.Out the window would go free flowing attacking football and in would come stale, efficient boredom. It might be effective but it would not be the UTD way,and when would the kids get their chance? Can you imagine Jose bringing through the Da Silvas,Evans,Gibson,Welbeck hell no.Filling Fergie’s boots is going to be one of the most difficult jobs in the world never mind football.I think Q could plug the gap until a real leader shows himself,but that could take a long time. How do you replace the greatest football manager ever?
When you say Q do you mean Quieroz?Personally i wouldn’t want that.I think to this day he doesn’t understand the United mantality.With him we would have been as equally defensive as with Jose.The difference is that Mourinho can spark his players’ interest.For me there is only one choice to take us through the tough patch before someone more qualified comes along:Brucey.
How do you say “Not Interested” in Portuguese/Brazilian or whatever the fuck this arrogant cunt speaks…
Besides Mourinho is only good for teams like Chelsea who have no history …..our History as you correctly mentioned Scott lies in bringing youth through, playing attacking football…..Mourinho will destroy that if he ever came here
To be honest I can´t see SAF leaving OT before they carry him out – he will always be a part of United.
The Difference between TNSSO and SAF is that Mourinho is always more important than his current club whereas SAF is the club.
I think TNSSO could work as a transitional manager before Giggsy takes over as manager. With SAF as advisor of course…
I would go for MON instead of Mourinho
Mourinho is a good manager but nowhere near as good as he thinks he is
His comments to the press would constantly make us cringe
No thanks
But the fact is who else, Scott? O’Neil? Maybe, but I doubt he’s ready; Any of our past legends? Absolutely not, none of them are ready for number 1 yet. Lippi? too old. Rijkaard? heading to Chelsea if you believe the papers; Hidink? A possibility if he doesn’t sign for Chelsea, because Fergie would probably retire after 2010, so he should have taken Russia to the WC.
As much he isn’t likable, you can’t deny he’s one of the only few people who can handle the job.
Rijkard?Dear god know.We said we want to continue playing the United way,but with him defending wll be even worse than the William Prunier era.As i have said before i call for Brucey.He has improved over the past few years and he knows what United is all about.He will come for a couple of years until someone more capable comes along.
no! fuck off mourinho… its the lack of confidence in youth and lack of attacking football is what does it for me…. i dont think the hierachy will choose him.. there is no stand out candidate as fergie is a one off, irreplacable… it will be the saddest day of my sporting life when i look at the dugout and sir alex is not there… echoing most united fans feelings i would think
He may be good enough for clubs like Chelsea and Inter, but United are a different story.
maurinho is ok but i dont like the idea of him is bigger than united itself. it will destroy the club in long term. we can see how he projected his image while in charges at chelski and inter.
No way! he’s an arrogant cunt, and he’ll give a bad image to United on PR front. Im about 80% sure its gonna be Ole, they didn’t give him the reserves job for fun, its to train him up for the big job. i can see him being SAFs n.02 next season and the n the manager the following one.
agreed – TNSSO can jump for it to be honest. however i disagree with costas about brucey, the man may be a legend but hes never managed a big club with the resources that we have, hed be totally out of his depth.
i think we all know theres no tailor made replacement for sir alex, though all the usual names will be thrown about when he retires; mancini, ancelloti, oneill, rikjaard (god forbid…), eriksson, hiddink, mourinho and lippi. I personally dont fancy any of them but who we can get is anyones guess. I dont think we can have a legend to take over either in the way of ole or cantona, that would just be nostalgic and fairly stupid.
i think the best bet is a bit of human cloning… you think sir alex would notice if we stole his chewing gum and took some dna from that?
In all honesty, Mourinho is the safest bet for silverware. Yes, we will always prefer one of our own, Bruce, Keane, Cantona, etc, but none of them are ready. Not to mention, playing in Europe is a totally different game from our own league. It took Ferguson a very long time to master the continental style required to succeed in the CL. Yes, Moyes & O’Neill has done wonders for their clubs, but look at how they faired in Europe, and compare it to what a certain Steve Mac is doing now with his dutch team
A more important point I think is control. Can you imagine the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney listening diligently if someone like Bruce tells them to sit on the bench? He simply do not have the stature to control superstars yet. That is the one big advantage Mourinho has over all other candidates.
What Sir Alex has been able to do is to blend attacking football with actual achievement. To put it simply, he combines what Mourinho & Wenger can do, and right now, I do not see anyone in world football who can do that. So obviously, we cant have the best of both worlds once Sir Alex retires, which type would you choose now? Attractive Wenger or successful Mourinho?
It’s mission impossible guys.I went with Bruce because he knows the atmoshpere in the locker room and i think that he would earn the respect of Rooney,Ronaldo and co.Could he do the job from a tactical standpoint?Not so sure to be honest.But i am afraid that the era of the great big managers(Lippi,Hitzfeld,Capello and Sir Alex) is coming to an end.Mourinho might be the best thing this new era has to offer.Guys there was a time when the FSW first went to Anfield that i thought we missed a great chance to get him as Fergie’s successor!Everyone take a number and start slapping me!
Jesus fucking christ. some of you lot are unbelievable. Before i say what id like to, THERE IS NOT ANOTHER SIR ALEX FERGUSON OUT THERE! Sir Alex is the greatest manager ever, because he blends a winning, attacking forumla whilst carrying forward the Manchester United traditions, such as bringing youngsters into the first team. While Martin O’Neill could possibly continue with the clubs traditions, do you really expect him to win us a vast amount of trophies? Also, i hate stupid comments like, we should go for ____ as our next manager because he plays good football. So then that means that you’d like us to end up how Arsenal are right now? What do fans REALLY want? Success? or beautiful football? Whilst Sir Alex is manager, we are lucky to have both, but personally, if i had to choose, id take success and deep down, i know you all would as well. Dont try and be a smart arse and say to yourself that youd rather have free flowing football rather than success, because your lying to yourself, and personally, the football we’ve played hasnt even been that great this season. So i would rule out Mourinho just yet, and even if he does arrive, do you really believe that would curb the attacking talent of Rooney and Ronaldo etc?
9jmac is right guys.Drogba scored something like 35 goals with Mourinho 2 years ago.Lampard has also had his best years with him.As did Joe Cole.He doesn’t play as defensively as we think.When Chelsea would chace a scoreline they would decimate the opposition.Look at what they did at the Emirates the day we won the title in 07.They were a player down and they forced Arsenal in their own half for all of the second half.The problem with Mourinho is that he depends too much on his board for his success.At United he will not have Abramovich’s or Moratti’s wallet.He will have to bring players through the youth system.Can he do that?
No. He cant.
FUCK NO!!!!, not that cunt, anyone but that cunt…oniell, bruce, cantona, ole, any of those would do me fine, but please, please, please not the biggest cunt in world football!!!!, he will destroy our club.
Laurent Blanc.
I never want to see the arrogant cunt as United s manager but by the same token have no idea who we can replace SAF with. Hopefully he may stay till past his 70th birthday so we would then need to assess the situation. How well has Ole done with the reserves by then?, How far has MON taken Villa? Only then can we really decide. We definately need to keep a nucleus of United lads like Giggs, Nev, Scholes, Choccy and Ole in some capacity. I dread the day.
I hope we hammer the cunts on Wednesday so finally the media will stop comparing this chancer to SAF.
The only person replace Sir Alex is someone who seen it all ..know whats the club is about, and there is no one better then Ryan Giggs.
Yess! ..he may lack the mangerail credentials, but so did Bob Paisley of liverpool (didnt want to mention that but facts are facts) and look what it did to them? the team was built by Bill Shankly and handed to a know ex-player.
Even SAF said the success of liverpool was down to the internal appointment of manager.
I dont think there anyone that know the UnitedWay better then Ryan Giggs!
you could say hes has been SAF apprentice for pass 18 years!!
Amen to that King Eric.SAF has only beaten Mourinho once in 13 games.And that’s the only thing that has kept Mourinho ego inflated.He has to beat him.No penalties,no Fletcher goals and then parking the bus at our goal for 45 minutes.He has to comprehensively beat him.
Big, big worry this one! Whoever takes over has got to be succesful in a big way. Imagine no champions league and long cup runs with the money it brings in with our debts? We can’t afford it now thanks to the Glazers. Maureen would give us what we needed short term but within a couple of years the shit would hit the fan. all the blame would be passed on and off he would go to the next glory job. This man is the nemesis of our club and he would manage to do from inside the club what all the russian crook’s monet can’t do from the outside. Blanc could be the answer, ex player with a great playing cv which commands respect. Don’t know what his relationship was like with King Eric but maybe him as number two?
RedDevil: Not a bad idea that!
Yes Marq i also agree that Mourinho is the safest bet for silverware, BUT only for the first two seasons. This is based on his record with his previous clubs..
And when he leave, he will leave the team broken at its core. So would you want that? Looking back to the two seasons that TNSSO won the PL title with Chelsea, SAF is rebuilding his team. We lose those two seasons, but now we are going for the quintuple as the media hype saysafter a double of PL and CL last season.
TNSSO is not only arrogant, but also hasty, and he cant plan for a longer future.
And I also would not call him an expert in European football, because he cant win it Chelsea. With Porto it was purely luck, his failure with Chelsea proves that!
This thread re-surfaces all the time. From the voting it is clear that Maureen hasn’t got a lot of support NOW. I voted against him, too. BUT when replacing the true “legend”, SAF, becomes a reality then I’m not sure if my resolve would hold.
Of the current young “contenders”, my choices would be David Moyes or Steve Bruce who have both shown the ability to do a lot with a little.
Martin O’Neill is not a youngster and he seems very happy with Aston Villa.
IF SAF continues for a fair few more years – and I suspect that he will go on as long as his body allows him to do so – then I would think that OLEgend becomes a more and more viable successor.
My personal preference would be for SAF to continue forever – or until one of us dies, whichever comes first.
Red Devil – yes not bad at all!
Ps: Above all else he is a born winner like SAF.
Darren Ferguson. Keep it in the family
I actually think Mourinho would be the man for the job, i know alot of people are against it but i think its important for the club to continue winning straight after Fergie retires, Mourinho knows how to win and he respects our club. Another reason i wouldn’t mind him coming is he wouldn’t actually be here that long id say maybe 4/5 years then he would move on by this time the likes of Solskjaer/Cantona or O Neill/Bruce will have improved and wont have the pressure of replacing Fergie as it would of been a while since he’d stepped down.
I love our attacking football but for the future of the club i think its important we carry on winning in the first years after Fergie’s retirement, so a few years of Mourinho wouldn’t be to bad. Just imagen the rent boys faces if he joined us
plus we’d have plenty of entertainment.
ill go with giggsy…the points mentioned by RED DEVIL are good..enuf for me…to select tht option..
Giggsy??? Now thats letting our hearts chose and ignoring our head. He might have seen it all since he has basically being with Fergie almost throughout his United years, but its quite different being in the driving seat. I love Giggs and it would be sad to see our fans start to turn on him if his management career isn’t a success, I don’t think Giggs would be good enoughm, but hey who knows it worked with Liverpool and it might work with us.
Laurent Blanc…how has he been doing with Bordeaux?
Mourinho can fuck right off, I’d hate him to become the United manager.
Recently SAF was qouted saying that he takes advice from the 35 year old veteran, becouse he know the team and trusts he Judgment. To be a successful manger one must know his team and who know the current man utd team more the Ryan Giggs (..thats after SAF)?
Hasnt Giggs begun taking his coaching badges? also SAF said he would like Giggs to serve as his coaching staff once he hangs his boots up.
Somehow you get the feeling Giggs is being groomed to become the next manger. Personaly i would like him to serve as SAF No.2 before inevitable.
I think some of us are abit harsh on Mourinho’s planning on Chelsea. Just for records, he didn’t want the likes of Shevchenko & Ballack, the rich daddy did. And because of those big signings, he couldn’t really get who he wanted. Remember how he literally begged for a defender and got Ben Haim? Kenyon’s the person i point the fault for Chelsea’s inability to rebuilt
Marq – he was begging for money because he’s squandered hundreds of millions of quid on shit players. Ballack was free and the £30 mill for Shevchenko was just the price paid for two players Jose did want, SWP and Boulahrouz.
Name any player Mourinho signed that wasn’t wanted by plenty of top teams in Europe. Kenyon is a prick, but don’t blame him for Mourinho’s inability to spot a player.
Wenger anyone?
Mourinho over my dead body.
Changed my mine too……. Ithought Moaningho was the right choice but really feel now that O’Neill is the man….. He won’t take any shit from no fucker so maybe……?
The thought of Fergie not being at the club fills me with fear, TNSSO is a prick and he is a liar we have too much class for that scumbag.
Scott the Red….dont know about the football but we’d get some cracking interviews and analysis!
Lots of good and bad with tnsso.
Hard call but reckon SAf wants him and thats that.
I would love Giggs but in this day and age the business acumen and the broader skill base required to manage aclub has changed since Paisley was running things so I dont know if its realistic.
Would be great but.
roy keane…it would be entertaining at least…
Well, Scott, during Mourinho’s time, he did bring in Carvalho, Cech, Robben, Drogba & Essien, players who could walk into our team. And it was also during his time Duff, Terry & Lampard were playing their best football. Mourinho was working in a different environment from Sir Alex, he could never have survived a season without winning something, so I give him the benefit of a doubt with regards to his capabilities of building teams with youth.
As for us, yes, Vidic & Ronaldo were steals, but most of the players we went for were also wanted by all big clubs in Europe, and we paid big bucks for them as well.
As much as we can root for who we hope to see, Sir Alex will have the final say who to take over him, and we can only trust him to make the best decision. Let’s savour our time with the knight while we still can, because we all know there isn’t anyone else who can adequately replace him
I like Steve Bruce and think he could do a good job, but agree some day Giggs as United manager makes sense. I could see him on the touch line and who better to inspire the players and work with Ole to bring up youth than Giggs. Bruce for awhile with Giggs as assistant in some capacity and then he comes in, thats my dream. Bruce is a good manager, he knows the stakes of United and is part of its history, he has brought out great play from less than perfect squads on a regular basis, and installed a work ethic. I think he has all the quality butI wouldn’t rule out Mourinho totally. He would be a big name splash for the owners first managerial appointment, and sometimes Americans like to grab media rather than the best choice. Bruce could be our guy but he has his faults. I have no idea what will happen but I just hope Fergie finds the fountain of youth so he can continue at this for the rest of my life! We are lucky to have a manager of his ability and personality. In Fergie We Trust!
Marq—”Well, Scott, during Mourinho’s time, he did bring in Carvalho, Cech, Robben, Drogba & Essien, players who could walk into our team”
I hope that was meant as a joke, Marq.
I don’t deny that Carvalho is an excellent defender, but are you telling me he would “walk” into our side over Vida and Rio?? (my opinion, not a fucking chance)
Again, I know Cech is a top class keeper, but could he “walk” into the side over Van Der Sar at this present moment? Walking into the side means to me that he is clearly a superior player, obvious to all who follow football. And I know Cech is about a decade younger if not more so yes he would be a better long term choice, but right now in March 09 I think you could have a good debate on who’s the better keeper. So “walk” into our side, NO, he could not.
Robben….sigh. Really? Yeah he would be a better offensive option on the left wing than Park, but would he track back? (no) Would he run his fucking ass into the ground to help the team? (fuck no) And the spanish league is softer and better suited to his game so he looks better now for Real, but in the Prem he would get kicked once and then spend the rest of the match hiding.
Drogba…. He is an athletic freak who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net. But he is an absolute disgrace and only plays hard when he fancies it. So, would he “walk” into our side over Berba or Wayne? No, not if I had anything to say about it.
and finally, Essien. Well, you got one right at least. He could walk into our side. 1 out of 5 ain’t that great though pal
marq, walk into our team? are you having a laugh?
I mean to say our team in 04/05 & 05/06… -_-”
SAF makes great players that build a united front against other teams (players like Park). Maureen buys good players that might or might not fit together-but at the end of the day they are still good players. For this reason, Maureen should stay away. Can anyone really say that Maureen would be successful at a club like Wigan, Sunderland, or especially Everton ? Given hundreds of millions/billions my blind pet chimpanze could have managed chelski. Maureen is over rated because he had billions to spend and he does have a larger than life ego.
you have a blind pet chimpanze!?!
Even though i wouldn’t mind Mourinho as United manager, I think Solskjaer is secretly working his way to be number 1 one day, I would love The Baby Faced Assassin to be our manager! and thats thinking with my heart and head, he reads the game amazingly well which explains why he was a super sub he said he used to read the game and then he would come on and know how to score against them.
You are my Solskjaer….